Interview with Dave Rosenfeld (guitar) from Black Rose Rebellion.
New Jersey hard rock band BLACK ROSE REBELLION who are releasing their new album, Hail The Rebel Queen, on May 29th via Pavement Entertainment
Current Singles: Hail The Rebel Queen (Releasing May 29th) For Fans Of: Halestorm, In This Moment, Shinedown, Evanescence, The Pretty Reckless
Black Rose Rebellion is a modern hard rock band forged from strength, power, and rebirth. The Black Rose itself symbolizes major change, hope, and optimism—core themes reflected in both the band’s music and the personal journeys of its members.
The rebellion was born in June 2022, when frontwoman Trybe and lead guitarist/co-writer Dave “The RockDoc” Rosenfeld—complete strangers at the time—were each on the verge of walking away from music altogether. Introduced by a mutual friend despite coming from entirely different worlds, their connection sparked an immediate creative rebirth and laid the foundation for Black Rose Rebellion.
Hailing from both the northern and southern halves of New Jersey, USA, the band has developed a powerful, genre-blending sound influenced by decades of rock and metal, while maintaining a bold, modern edge. Beyond the music, Black Rose Rebellion represents a brand built on individuality, resilience, and self-belief—encouraging listeners to stand for who they are and what they believe in.
Lead guitarist Dave “The RockDoc” Rosenfeld has been a lifelong musician while simultaneously building a successful and highly decorated career as one of New Jersey’s top dental practitioners. His precision, intensity, and passion translate seamlessly from profession to performance.
Inspired by her husband’s ambition and love for music, Karen “Kar Rose” Rosenfeld joined as drummer and co-founder. Her impeccable timing, hard-hitting power, and dynamic, lyrical playing make her the unmistakable heartbeat of the band.
Frontwoman Trybe grew up immersed in music, studying piano and clarinet while deliberately avoiding the family tradition of guitar and drums. After a challenging transition following 13 years of service in the United States Army—serving in the JAG Corps, Operation Enduring Freedom, Civil Affairs, and later as a Drill Sergeant—she rediscovered music as a source of purpose and healing. A self-taught vocalist, her voice became her weapon, forging the commanding, powerhouse identity that defines Black Rose Rebellion.
Brooklyn-born bassist Michele Mayhem brings a fierce, authentic rock edge shaped by years of live performance. Known for her powerful stage presence and grounded intensity, her experience and energy add a commanding dimension to the band’s sound.
Black Rose Rebellion came out of the gate strong, performing at some of New Jersey’s most prestigious venues and directly supporting artists such as Sponge, Spread Eagle, and other rising national acts. With their debut album set for release in the near future, the band continues to grow its loyal following—The Rebel Army. Join the Rebellion.
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New Jersey hard rock band BLACK ROSE REBELLION who are releasing their new album, Hail The Rebel Queen, on May 29th via Pavement Entertainment
Current Singles: Hail The Rebel Queen (Releasing May 29th) For Fans Of: Halestorm, In This Moment, Shinedown, Evanescence, The Pretty Reckless
Black Rose Rebellion is a modern hard rock band forged from strength, power, and rebirth. The Black Rose itself symbolizes major change, hope, and optimism—core themes reflected in both the band’s music and the personal journeys of its members.
The rebellion was born in June 2022, when frontwoman Trybe and lead guitarist/co-writer Dave “The RockDoc” Rosenfeld—complete strangers at the time—were each on the verge of walking away from music altogether. Introduced by a mutual friend despite coming from entirely different worlds, their connection sparked an immediate creative rebirth and laid the foundation for Black Rose Rebellion.
Hailing from both the northern and southern halves of New Jersey, USA, the band has developed a powerful, genre-blending sound influenced by decades of rock and metal, while maintaining a bold, modern edge. Beyond the music, Black Rose Rebellion represents a brand built on individuality, resilience, and self-belief—encouraging listeners to stand for who they are and what they believe in.
Lead guitarist Dave “The RockDoc” Rosenfeld has been a lifelong musician while simultaneously building a successful and highly decorated career as one of New Jersey’s top dental practitioners. His precision, intensity, and passion translate seamlessly from profession to performance.
Inspired by her husband’s ambition and love for music, Karen “Kar Rose” Rosenfeld joined as drummer and co-founder. Her impeccable timing, hard-hitting power, and dynamic, lyrical playing make her the unmistakable heartbeat of the band.
Frontwoman Trybe grew up immersed in music, studying piano and clarinet while deliberately avoiding the family tradition of guitar and drums. After a challenging transition following 13 years of service in the United States Army—serving in the JAG Corps, Operation Enduring Freedom, Civil Affairs, and later as a Drill Sergeant—she rediscovered music as a source of purpose and healing. A self-taught vocalist, her voice became her weapon, forging the commanding, powerhouse identity that defines Black Rose Rebellion.
Brooklyn-born bassist Michele Mayhem brings a fierce, authentic rock edge shaped by years of live performance. Known for her powerful stage presence and grounded intensity, her experience and energy add a commanding dimension to the band’s sound.
Black Rose Rebellion came out of the gate strong, performing at some of New Jersey’s most prestigious venues and directly supporting artists such as Sponge, Spread Eagle, and other rising national acts. With their debut album set for release in the near future, the band continues to grow its loyal following—The Rebel Army. Join the Rebellion.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hi, you love one to the censure.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Wow for you young.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe
Man w four c Y Radio. And our next guest
has some killer music that we're going to talk about.
So let's welcome to the show. Dave the rock Dock
from Black Rose Rebellion.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
How you doing?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I like that name, the rock doc That's killer.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That was given to.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Me by j D from Black Label Society. I'm a dentist.
I treat a lot of the rockers also and between
that in music, and I've hung out with them and
played with them and stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So it's been pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
That's pretty funny because Okay, so in the town where
our studios have been for like eighteen years, when I
first moved there, I went to the dentist. Oh yeah,
and I'm wearing a Misfits shirt in the dentist chair.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
And so the dentist as he's drilling me, he's like,
you like the Misfits. I'm like yeah. He goes Glenn
Danzig's my brother in law.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Oh that's wild.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Yeah. I was like, holy crap, how does that happen? Right?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
So tell us a little bit about your debut album,
coming out, and I think it's pretty badass. The music's
pretty badass. And tell us how it all came about
and what you're looking for your music to do for people.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, So black ho was Rebellion was founded on my
stinger and eyes feelings of trying to actually give up music.
We were kind of bad experiences with some other bandmates
and different situations and some a mutual friend reached out
to us and hooked us up, and I took my wife,
who's my drummer, and we went down to meet Tribe
(02:17):
and she was just amazing and we had the same
type of ideas, same type of goals. So we were
sending demos back and forth, her vocals, my music, and
it just really connected and she connected. It has been
an unbelievable ride ever since. So this this album is
we have sonic ride. Each each song kind of stands
on its own. They're all very different, but still you.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Can know it's us.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
We're looking to really have people reach out, and all
the songs lyrically and musically kind of connect with people.
It's all about people's everyday lives and you know, Tribe
is the rebel Queen, but really She's the rebel queen
for everybody.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Right, everybody could be a rebel queen.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
The whole idea is to not about chaos and all that.
It's more about being able to be your own person
and bring your own feelings and fighting back people who
are against you.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
What what what a thought? Right?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I mean, like in this day and age, I think
that's so apropos because come on, people, just think on
your own.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Man.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
You don't need to join a team, you don't need
to join a label. Just be yourself and you know
if people don't like it, oh well you know they're
not your people.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
That's it. And people seem to really.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Connect with that whole idea too. It's it's really an
amazing thing.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I love it because it's what it used to kind
of be like and it's become not like that. So
we need artists like you to kind of unite us
back together again with individuality.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
So, where in Jersey are you from?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
So the band is kind of split up.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
So our bass player, Michelle Mayhem is from Staten Island.
My wife and I are from Northwest Jersey in the
Clinton area. Tribe is from South Jersey. So it kind
of will spread out all over the place, but it
makes for great for.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Shows, right.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And I'm from South I live in South Florida now,
but I'm from Jersey. Oh and I'm from like many parts, Okay.
So I grew up in Little Falls, roseland Montclair. Sure,
and I've lived up by where you're talking about. I've
lived up in Jefferson Township, up in the Lake Apacon area.
I've lived in South Plainfield, Marlborough, Manawpen, old Bridge, that's
(04:38):
Ocean Township. Funny story is like in nineteen eighty my
dad came up to me and goes, meet your new mother.
We're moving to California in three days. Oh little did
I know that was actually a good idea. Like I
was not down with that. And I remember when I
first got to California, I'm like where how am? I
(05:00):
was like I was an alien planet. But then I
found very quickly the Sunset Strip and the Troubadour and
all those areas of the eighties scene and got very involved.
So I relate to what you were talking about because
I was very involved in the music scene then and
I left. I left the music scene because I couldn't
(05:22):
stand the bullshit of the eighties and what record labels
were doing the bands right, right, So I definitely relate
to your music.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
And then, you know, I was listening to.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
It and it's like, it's kind of like old school
and modern at the same time. I say old school
because it's just good rock and roll and musicianship.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Legacy rock and roll with a whole new.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Modern feel exactly, you know, because we've been kind of
losing it in the past years, losing musicianship, and I
think it's making a comeback now from a lot of
bands I'm seeing coming up like your band and that,
you know, want to go back to where you're actually
a musician, right.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Absolutely, you're singing a lot of the new generation. Also,
the young kids are going back to all the old
school stuff and bringing that.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
It's pretty amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I think it's way cool.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Two of my grandkids for their birthdays, they wanted me
to get them vinyl.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I was like, that's way cool. I'll be happy to
do that.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Of course, that was until I went to the store
and I saw how much nyl is nowadays at the store.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
I'm like, holy crap, you know, I have the album
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
That's how I grew.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Up, like you got an album, you own the music, right,
You ripped over the plastic, you ripped up in the thing,
You looked at the lyrics, you looked at the pictures,
you owned it.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Today's world's a lot different, right, It's fifteen.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Seconds his wife right left, as you like it, and
it's changed the way people will Right. Some people are
writing now where they're putting the choruses right up front
so that you kind of connect with the hook right
off the bat.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
It's definitely had an song music today.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Well, you know, I took songwriting classes when I was younger,
and I was talking. I was actually to your point
talking to a band a couple months ago that was
telling me how, Yeah, in teaching these kids songwriting that
they had to change it for the times were in
and the attention span that people don't have. Yeah, like
(07:23):
you were just saying, putting the chorus right up front,
maybe only two verses, no bridge, no solo, no intro
Like some of my favorite songs. Ever, it took at least,
at the very least thirty seconds to get to the
meat of the song.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Oh, you're like, whoa, But you're right.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
When we were younger, you invested your money in some
vinyl or cassettes or eight tracks or CDs, and you
made sure that you listened to it from cover to
cover because you paid your hard earned money that you
couldn't get it, you know, and you couldn't just say,
oh I don't like this, forget it. Some of my
(08:06):
favorite albums I had to listen to like five times
before you.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Like yeah, yeah. You know what got you originally into music? Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I started as a kid. It just it was inevitable,
you know. I love playing from the get go. I
taught himself, taught I loved it and how to make
a decisions if I wanted to go into music and
go into school.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
My parents pushed me to school.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
And then when you know, years later, my son had
another band, and at sixteen years old, he's like, I
don't want to go to college. I want to be
a rock and roll drummer. So I started the band.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
He was my drummer. We opened up for Leida Ford's
sworder early Guns.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
We played a lot of really amazing shit nice and
then I had to do that for him. So actually
he took lessons from j D.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
From Black Label.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
He taught him based and said let him Dave let
me just try to.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Steer him the right way.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
So he learned bass as well as drummer, probably one
the best drummers I've had, and then ended up becoming
a mechanical engineer.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
We pushed them towards that, so that was cool. But
that drive me back into music.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
And when we played a huge festival, I had to
write ten storms within two weeks.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And it's just been like that.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
So it's my it's my safe place.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Well, you know, it's interesting. That's one of the things
I love about today is your story. I'm saying with
like my kids and grandkids. It's like when we were kids,
there was no way we would be in a band
with our parent, right, We wouldn't even we wouldn't even
see a band that was the age of our parents,
(09:40):
you know. And it's so cool, Like, you know, I
do festivals all over the US, UK and Europe and
I see like generations, Oh yeah, and I love it.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, And that's where I'm feeling like rock is definitely
not dead. It So we have a rebirth now, which
is part of the band's name, right, Acho's rebelling. The
whole idea of Black Rose is rebirth, renewal, you know,
so it's kind of fun to see that music industry also.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, and I just got back from doing coverage Welcome
to Rockville with two hundred and ten thousand people, So
rock is definitely not dead.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Awesome as that. That's great.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah, I do that one every year, but like two
hundred and ten thousand. I think it's like a record
for all the Danny Wimmer festivals at this point.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
That's all right.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
That just tells you it's not dead, right, two hundred
and ten thousand people and what not one incident?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I see. That's yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
I love it, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
So what else can we expect from you guys the
rest of twenty twenty six, Well.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
We're going to put some some tour dates together right now.
We wanted to get the album out, push that out.
The release date is made twenty ninth. There's been a
lot of amazing feedback, so that's really been great.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
We're looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
We took about two year to really get this record
the way we wanted to, so it's definitely a love project.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
See.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I love hearing that too, because you know, a lot
of musicians throughout the years I would even say, going
up to COVID, you were on this hamster wheel and
there's no way you would be able to take two
years to.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Write an album.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
You're like writing it on the tour bus from one
gig to another. Yeah, we're getting the creativity back because
I think how many times do artists put on an
album and then later they're like, it really wasn't finished.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
That's not how I would have finished the album.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, our albums and music really came from our live shows.
So the album's over the last amount of time. It
needed to brew, right, It's like a great coffee or
you needed to really sit there.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
And just and grow.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
And it really did, and you could see it through
the audiences and the feedback we got. It's great when
everybody comes up and one person's say, we love this song,
the next one, I love the other song, I love
that one.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Here's a great feeling.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
But really allowing it to really mature. That was the key,
and us as musicians together as a group too mature
because we put it together and boom.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
We were right out of the gate. We were doing shows.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
And how you feel about being at this stage of
life compared to early in life, and how you interact
with bandmates.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Oh, it's so much different because she's so much mature.
I having my wife in the band, that's even that's great.
But right, we're like a family and people say the
all the time, but each one of the positions that
we have are people that have been in the industry
for many years and cut their teeth on it, so
they know how special this is and how special these
(12:44):
personalities to work together. Tribe is actually a very veteran
She did thirteen years in the army, so this is
her way of really breaking out and having control of
her own thoughts and ideas and vocal melodies and lyrics,
and you can see that. So it's really we're all
really appreciative of the whole process and the band together.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
So when you're.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Younger, you hit it for granted, you're out doing things,
you don't really know where you're at. We really appreciate,
we really appreciate how much what we have from other
musicians and the people in the industry.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I think part of it too is when you're younger,
like most of your people that you were really close
with or not even in your life at this stage
of life, like it's different you know, so you do
find your no pun intended pun intended.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Tribe, you know, absolutely, So.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I have to say too, like I love.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
You know, you have the rebel army, So how do
people join that rebellion?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
So it goes to anybody can be part of the
rebel or army. It's not so much about fighting or
chaos and all that. It's again being being yourself, everybody
exiting each other, everybody being appreciative each other, and not
putting labels like you discussed before.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
And things on that.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So we just be very exclusive and bring everybody in
and enjoy the music for what it is and what
it and how it touches people. That's really important. All
the all the lyrics and the feeling of the songs.
We wanted to like touch somebody, really connect with the music.
So that's kind of what the rebel army is.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Rather than like.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
We're gonna go out and do chaos or we're gonna
do that. It's more about come.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Far there you go.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I love it, and I want I also want to
thank tribe for serving our country. My son's been in
the army for it's almost twenty years. He's like in
his retirement papers now. And I don't care who you
are out there, whether you agree with military, agree with war,
you should always agree with soldiers because they're doing things
(15:02):
that are for us at their own sacrifice. And you know,
my hat's always off to somebody that like sacrifices their
life for us to be able to say whatever we want.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Oh, thank you. Yeah, And she continues to do that
many days during the week. She's out there helping veterans
and go to conferences and fighting for benefits and things
like that. So she's still in the fight, which is.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Really a great thing.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
I love that because the veterans definitely need it. For sure.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
We've worked a lot with them, and yeah, they need
all the help they can get. And I also want
to say it was funny. I don't know if you
know about this yourself, or she knows about this, but
I didn't know about it. And I called up my
son one day. It was from doing a Danny Wimmer
festival years ago, and I was like, why didn't you
(15:49):
get this job? Because there's a band that plays at
all the Danny Wimmer festivals. It's the Army Band and
a constantly you know new people in it, but that's
their job in the army.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
That's great, and I'm.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Like, why are you jumping on planes into dangers areas
you should be on stage playing at Danny Wimmer Festival.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah. I think the adrenaline of helping country and the adrenaline.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Of what their focus and goals of the day, that's
really important.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, and again I think that's what Try brings to
our band also, that adrenaline rush.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
She is definitely a firecracker.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Nice. I love it well.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I wouldn't expect anything less from anybody from Jersey anyway.
Is there anything else you want to share with the
listeners that we haven't covered yet, Well.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
You can down. May twenty ninth is the record released
through Sony on all platforms. You can download the music.
I think you're gonna see your real surprise. It's amazing stuff.
We have two really amazing videos that were shot over
a couple of days on One is our original tune
and one is a cover tune, the cover of Toxic
(17:01):
from Britney Spears.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, and we put our feel to it. We paid
homage to it. But I'm a rocker and it definitely
has that sound. I broke out a seven strings for
some lower sound on that, but it's a very cool
vibe and the video is incredible.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
We paid how much for all our videos, so that's
pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Love it well, everybody has to go and check you
guys out.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Get the album on the.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Twenty ninth, And thanks for being on the Adventures of
pipe Man.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Thank you so much appreciated.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Thanks for having you got it.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of pipe Man
on w for CUI Radio.
Hi, you love one to the censure.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Wow for you young.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe
Man w four c Y Radio. And our next guest
has some killer music that we're going to talk about.
So let's welcome to the show. Dave the rock Dock
from Black Rose Rebellion.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
How you doing?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I like that name, the rock doc That's killer.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That was given to.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Me by j D from Black Label Society. I'm a dentist.
I treat a lot of the rockers also and between
that in music, and I've hung out with them and
played with them and stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So it's been pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
That's pretty funny because Okay, so in the town where
our studios have been for like eighteen years, when I
first moved there, I went to the dentist. Oh yeah,
and I'm wearing a Misfits shirt in the dentist chair.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
And so the dentist as he's drilling me, he's like,
you like the Misfits. I'm like yeah. He goes Glenn
Danzig's my brother in law.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Oh that's wild.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Yeah. I was like, holy crap, how does that happen? Right?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
So tell us a little bit about your debut album,
coming out, and I think it's pretty badass. The music's
pretty badass. And tell us how it all came about
and what you're looking for your music to do for people.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, So black ho was Rebellion was founded on my
stinger and eyes feelings of trying to actually give up music.
We were kind of bad experiences with some other bandmates
and different situations and some a mutual friend reached out
to us and hooked us up, and I took my wife,
who's my drummer, and we went down to meet Tribe
(02:17):
and she was just amazing and we had the same
type of ideas, same type of goals. So we were
sending demos back and forth, her vocals, my music, and
it just really connected and she connected. It has been
an unbelievable ride ever since. So this this album is
we have sonic ride. Each each song kind of stands
on its own. They're all very different, but still you.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Can know it's us.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
We're looking to really have people reach out, and all
the songs lyrically and musically kind of connect with people.
It's all about people's everyday lives and you know, Tribe
is the rebel Queen, but really She's the rebel queen
for everybody.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Right, everybody could be a rebel queen.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
The whole idea is to not about chaos and all that.
It's more about being able to be your own person
and bring your own feelings and fighting back people who
are against you.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
What what what a thought? Right?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I mean, like in this day and age, I think
that's so apropos because come on, people, just think on
your own.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Man.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
You don't need to join a team, you don't need
to join a label. Just be yourself and you know
if people don't like it, oh well you know they're
not your people.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
That's it. And people seem to really.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Connect with that whole idea too. It's it's really an
amazing thing.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I love it because it's what it used to kind
of be like and it's become not like that. So
we need artists like you to kind of unite us
back together again with individuality.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
So, where in Jersey are you from?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
So the band is kind of split up.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
So our bass player, Michelle Mayhem is from Staten Island.
My wife and I are from Northwest Jersey in the
Clinton area. Tribe is from South Jersey. So it kind
of will spread out all over the place, but it
makes for great for.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Shows, right.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And I'm from South I live in South Florida now,
but I'm from Jersey. Oh and I'm from like many parts, Okay.
So I grew up in Little Falls, roseland Montclair. Sure,
and I've lived up by where you're talking about. I've
lived up in Jefferson Township, up in the Lake Apacon area.
I've lived in South Plainfield, Marlborough, Manawpen, old Bridge, that's
(04:38):
Ocean Township. Funny story is like in nineteen eighty my
dad came up to me and goes, meet your new mother.
We're moving to California in three days. Oh little did
I know that was actually a good idea. Like I
was not down with that. And I remember when I
first got to California, I'm like where how am? I
(05:00):
was like I was an alien planet. But then I
found very quickly the Sunset Strip and the Troubadour and
all those areas of the eighties scene and got very involved.
So I relate to what you were talking about because
I was very involved in the music scene then and
I left. I left the music scene because I couldn't
(05:22):
stand the bullshit of the eighties and what record labels
were doing the bands right, right, So I definitely relate
to your music.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
And then, you know, I was listening to.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
It and it's like, it's kind of like old school
and modern at the same time. I say old school
because it's just good rock and roll and musicianship.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Legacy rock and roll with a whole new.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Modern feel exactly, you know, because we've been kind of
losing it in the past years, losing musicianship, and I
think it's making a comeback now from a lot of
bands I'm seeing coming up like your band and that,
you know, want to go back to where you're actually
a musician, right.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Absolutely, you're singing a lot of the new generation. Also,
the young kids are going back to all the old
school stuff and bringing that.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
It's pretty amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I think it's way cool.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Two of my grandkids for their birthdays, they wanted me
to get them vinyl.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I was like, that's way cool. I'll be happy to
do that.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Of course, that was until I went to the store
and I saw how much nyl is nowadays at the store.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
I'm like, holy crap, you know, I have the album
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
That's how I grew.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Up, like you got an album, you own the music, right,
You ripped over the plastic, you ripped up in the thing,
You looked at the lyrics, you looked at the pictures,
you owned it.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Today's world's a lot different, right, It's fifteen.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Seconds his wife right left, as you like it, and
it's changed the way people will Right. Some people are
writing now where they're putting the choruses right up front
so that you kind of connect with the hook right
off the bat.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
It's definitely had an song music today.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Well, you know, I took songwriting classes when I was younger,
and I was talking. I was actually to your point
talking to a band a couple months ago that was
telling me how, Yeah, in teaching these kids songwriting that
they had to change it for the times were in
and the attention span that people don't have. Yeah, like
(07:23):
you were just saying, putting the chorus right up front,
maybe only two verses, no bridge, no solo, no intro
Like some of my favorite songs. Ever, it took at least,
at the very least thirty seconds to get to the
meat of the song.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Oh, you're like, whoa, But you're right.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
When we were younger, you invested your money in some
vinyl or cassettes or eight tracks or CDs, and you
made sure that you listened to it from cover to
cover because you paid your hard earned money that you
couldn't get it, you know, and you couldn't just say,
oh I don't like this, forget it. Some of my
(08:06):
favorite albums I had to listen to like five times
before you.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Like yeah, yeah. You know what got you originally into music? Oh?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I started as a kid. It just it was inevitable,
you know. I love playing from the get go. I
taught himself, taught I loved it and how to make
a decisions if I wanted to go into music and
go into school.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
My parents pushed me to school.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
And then when you know, years later, my son had
another band, and at sixteen years old, he's like, I
don't want to go to college. I want to be
a rock and roll drummer. So I started the band.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
He was my drummer. We opened up for Leida Ford's
sworder early Guns.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
We played a lot of really amazing shit nice and
then I had to do that for him. So actually
he took lessons from j D.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
From Black Label.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
He taught him based and said let him Dave let
me just try to.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Steer him the right way.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
So he learned bass as well as drummer, probably one
the best drummers I've had, and then ended up becoming
a mechanical engineer.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
We pushed them towards that, so that was cool. But
that drive me back into music.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
And when we played a huge festival, I had to
write ten storms within two weeks.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And it's just been like that.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
So it's my it's my safe place.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Well, you know, it's interesting. That's one of the things
I love about today is your story. I'm saying with
like my kids and grandkids. It's like when we were kids,
there was no way we would be in a band
with our parent, right, We wouldn't even we wouldn't even
see a band that was the age of our parents,
(09:40):
you know. And it's so cool, Like, you know, I
do festivals all over the US, UK and Europe and
I see like generations, Oh yeah, and I love it.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, And that's where I'm feeling like rock is definitely
not dead. It So we have a rebirth now, which
is part of the band's name, right, Acho's rebelling. The
whole idea of Black Rose is rebirth, renewal, you know,
so it's kind of fun to see that music industry also.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, and I just got back from doing coverage Welcome
to Rockville with two hundred and ten thousand people, So
rock is definitely not dead.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Awesome as that. That's great.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah, I do that one every year, but like two
hundred and ten thousand. I think it's like a record
for all the Danny Wimmer festivals at this point.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
That's all right.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
That just tells you it's not dead, right, two hundred
and ten thousand people and what not one incident?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I see. That's yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
I love it, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
So what else can we expect from you guys the
rest of twenty twenty six, Well.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
We're going to put some some tour dates together right now.
We wanted to get the album out, push that out.
The release date is made twenty ninth. There's been a
lot of amazing feedback, so that's really been great.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
We're looking forward to it.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
We took about two year to really get this record
the way we wanted to, so it's definitely a love project.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
See.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I love hearing that too, because you know, a lot
of musicians throughout the years I would even say, going
up to COVID, you were on this hamster wheel and
there's no way you would be able to take two
years to.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Write an album.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
You're like writing it on the tour bus from one
gig to another. Yeah, we're getting the creativity back because
I think how many times do artists put on an
album and then later they're like, it really wasn't finished.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
That's not how I would have finished the album.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, our albums and music really came from our live shows.
So the album's over the last amount of time. It
needed to brew, right, It's like a great coffee or
you needed to really sit there.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
And just and grow.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
And it really did, and you could see it through
the audiences and the feedback we got. It's great when
everybody comes up and one person's say, we love this song,
the next one, I love the other song, I love
that one.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Here's a great feeling.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
But really allowing it to really mature. That was the key,
and us as musicians together as a group too mature
because we put it together and boom.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
We were right out of the gate. We were doing shows.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
And how you feel about being at this stage of
life compared to early in life, and how you interact
with bandmates.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Oh, it's so much different because she's so much mature.
I having my wife in the band, that's even that's great.
But right, we're like a family and people say the
all the time, but each one of the positions that
we have are people that have been in the industry
for many years and cut their teeth on it, so
they know how special this is and how special these
(12:44):
personalities to work together. Tribe is actually a very veteran
She did thirteen years in the army, so this is
her way of really breaking out and having control of
her own thoughts and ideas and vocal melodies and lyrics,
and you can see that. So it's really we're all
really appreciative of the whole process and the band together.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
So when you're.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Younger, you hit it for granted, you're out doing things,
you don't really know where you're at. We really appreciate,
we really appreciate how much what we have from other
musicians and the people in the industry.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I think part of it too is when you're younger,
like most of your people that you were really close
with or not even in your life at this stage
of life, like it's different you know, so you do
find your no pun intended pun intended.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Tribe, you know, absolutely, So.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I have to say too, like I love.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
You know, you have the rebel army, So how do
people join that rebellion?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
So it goes to anybody can be part of the
rebel or army. It's not so much about fighting or
chaos and all that. It's again being being yourself, everybody
exiting each other, everybody being appreciative each other, and not
putting labels like you discussed before.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
And things on that.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So we just be very exclusive and bring everybody in
and enjoy the music for what it is and what
it and how it touches people. That's really important. All
the all the lyrics and the feeling of the songs.
We wanted to like touch somebody, really connect with the music.
So that's kind of what the rebel army is.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Rather than like.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
We're gonna go out and do chaos or we're gonna
do that. It's more about come.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Far there you go.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I love it, and I want I also want to
thank tribe for serving our country. My son's been in
the army for it's almost twenty years. He's like in
his retirement papers now. And I don't care who you
are out there, whether you agree with military, agree with war,
you should always agree with soldiers because they're doing things
(15:02):
that are for us at their own sacrifice. And you know,
my hat's always off to somebody that like sacrifices their
life for us to be able to say whatever we want.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Oh, thank you. Yeah, And she continues to do that
many days during the week. She's out there helping veterans
and go to conferences and fighting for benefits and things
like that. So she's still in the fight, which is.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Really a great thing.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
I love that because the veterans definitely need it. For sure.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
We've worked a lot with them, and yeah, they need
all the help they can get. And I also want
to say it was funny. I don't know if you
know about this yourself, or she knows about this, but
I didn't know about it. And I called up my
son one day. It was from doing a Danny Wimmer
festival years ago, and I was like, why didn't you
(15:49):
get this job? Because there's a band that plays at
all the Danny Wimmer festivals. It's the Army Band and
a constantly you know new people in it, but that's
their job in the army.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
That's great, and I'm.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Like, why are you jumping on planes into dangers areas
you should be on stage playing at Danny Wimmer Festival.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah. I think the adrenaline of helping country and the adrenaline.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Of what their focus and goals of the day, that's
really important.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, and again I think that's what Try brings to
our band also, that adrenaline rush.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
She is definitely a firecracker.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Nice. I love it well.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I wouldn't expect anything less from anybody from Jersey anyway.
Is there anything else you want to share with the
listeners that we haven't covered yet, Well.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
You can down. May twenty ninth is the record released
through Sony on all platforms. You can download the music.
I think you're gonna see your real surprise. It's amazing stuff.
We have two really amazing videos that were shot over
a couple of days on One is our original tune
and one is a cover tune, the cover of Toxic
(17:01):
from Britney Spears.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, and we put our feel to it. We paid
homage to it. But I'm a rocker and it definitely
has that sound. I broke out a seven strings for
some lower sound on that, but it's a very cool
vibe and the video is incredible.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
We paid how much for all our videos, so that's
pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Love it well, everybody has to go and check you
guys out.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Get the album on the.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Twenty ninth, And thanks for being on the Adventures of
pipe Man.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Thank you so much appreciated.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Thanks for having you got it.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of pipe Man
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