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Are you a songwriter? Are youlooking to turn your songwriting fashion into a
full time gig. Whether you arejust at the start of your songwriting journey
or a seasoned industry professionals, thisshow is made for you. Welcome to
the Songwriter Show, bringing together songwritingnews, interviews and community. Now,
(00:21):
welcome your host, Sorrantos. Thankyou so much for tuning in and welcome
back to the Songwriter Show right hereon Reality Radio one oh one. I'm
your host, Serrantos. I'm asolo music artist who's been writing lyrics forever.
Words are so important to me,and that's why I'm thrilled to host
this show every Tuesday evening. Ibelieve that every song is a story.
(00:46):
Tonight, I'm excited to have PamRoss. She was born in Pittsburgh but
spent most of her life in Houston, Texas. She currently lives in North
Carolina. Her music is often classifiedas Americano, but really defies any particular
genre. Fans and friends have beenbegun calling it Pam Musics. It's style
unique to her. It's a mashupof country, rock, blues, and
(01:07):
pop. You never know what you'regoing to get from one song to the
next. Her first video, Firein the Hall, has already run three
awards, and it's up for BestMusic Video in the Carolina Film Festival.
And now welcome this week's special guest. Welcome to show Pam. How you
doing doing just fine? How areyou doing? I'm doing good. So
(01:27):
I'm looking at Pittsburgh, Texas,North Carolina. So I won't hold any
of that against you. I'm fromChicago, but I love all those areas.
So tell us a little bit aboutdo you feel like you're settled in
now on North Carolina? Are yougonna be moving in a year or two?
Ah? Well, yeah, rightnow, you know, we're settled
in here. And it's you know, I do miss Houston because I missed
(01:53):
living on the water really, butit's a nice place. Oh yeah,
we're we're kind of settled in forright now. Okay. So the one
thing I remember by Houston, Texasis Pappas Brothers Steakhouse, which I absolutely
love. Yes, I don't knowif you've been there, but their peacm
pie is a bust I've ever had. Yes, bend to Papa's Benta.
(02:13):
They've got a bunch of different ones. They've got a steakhouse, a Mexican
of seafood. They're all good,all right. So tell us about you.
What's your instrument? Is it vocals? Is something else you play?
It's vocals, rhythm, guitar,and keyboards, okay, the things that
I do. What's your favorite?What's your favorite? If you had to
(02:35):
pick one? The guitar, Okay, that's what I'm really most proficient on.
I started playing keyboards just about ouryear and a half ago, maybe
two years somewhere in there, andit was something I always wanted to do
and finally went and did it.And so I do play keyboards on my
records, but I wouldn't really callmyself like a piano player. I've got
(02:59):
an for coming up with hooks andmelodies, but you know, I'm not
like someone who just gets down andjams on the keyboards like I can do
on guitar. Yeah, And howdo you start the process of writing a
song? It's something you do everyday. Tell us a little bit about
that. No, I don't doit every day. I try to do
it often because I think the moreyou write, the better you get,
(03:23):
and also the more songs you have, the more you have to choose from
to put on a record. Youknow, the more good ones you're going
to get. You write one songevery two months, you know, your
chances of having a really good oneget reduced. And for me, it
usually starts with just me messing aroundon my guitar, coming up with melodies,
and that sort of takes me somewhereand I try and write the music
(03:46):
and lyrics together. It doesn't alwayshappen that way, but usually. Yeah.
Is your family musical by any chance? Nope, not that I'm aware
of one. Okay, Hey,I'm kind of the same way some distant
relatives, But hey, it's wedo what we do, right. Yeah.
(04:06):
Any teachers that you've taken through theyears that you want to give a
shout out to, No, notreally. Pretty much just developed on my
own. You know, I've alwayslistened to music. I've always just really
been tracted to it. So I'vebeen listening to it literally my whole life
a lot. So when I finallystarted writing songs, I just kind of
(04:30):
knew how to write them by followingwhat I liked on the radio. I
knew you did a couple of choruses, you did a verse, and then
you had this other piece which Ilearned later was a bridge and just sort
of put it together. I haveworked with some professional songwriters in Nashville through
a thing called song You, andthey really did help me developed my song
(04:55):
writing a little bit better, makingthe imagery more clear in my lyrics and
fine tuning things. So they weredefinitely a help. But the basic structure
of it, I just always kindof, like I said, knew how
to do it from listening to thesongs that I liked and just writing like
(05:16):
that. Yeah, okay, tellus a little bit about your fondest musical
memory to date. My fondest musicalmemory to date. Gee, that might
be getting signed on with MTS,which was just a really big breakthrough for
me. They've really helped my careerso much and that was just like a
(05:43):
really huge achievement for me. Tellus a little bit about any collaborations that
you have loved that have been reallycool for you. I haven't had any.
Oh, okay, makes it easy. I mean I end up producing.
I do co produced with f J. Ventre, who owns the recording
studio good Luck Studio in Chapple Hill, North Carolina. That's really the closest
(06:09):
collaborating I've come with is co producingwith him and working with the other musicians
and you know, going back andforth with them saying, you know,
this is what I want to hearand whatever. But writing the songs,
I really just sit down and I'vealways done that alone. We each have
a different process and there's nothing wrongwith that. Yeah, I'm open to
it. I just haven't met anyoneI've ever sat down and wrote with.
(06:31):
Is there any famous musicians you'd loveto collaborate with? Oh? Yeah,
like Tony Arrata. A lot ofpeople don't really know him, but he's
written countless number one country hit songs, most notably The Dance by Garth Brooks
Here I Am by Patty Loveless.He would be an incredible person to write
with. I'm a big food Fighterfan, so I would love to write
(06:54):
with Dave Grohl, and I knowElton John's retired, but if he ever
wants to write a song with someoneand he's not around, I'm willing to
Stephania there. Yes, that's verynice of you to offer that. What
kind of advice would you give abeginner in this industry who's really nervous.
I think there's several things. Numberone, don't get caught up in trends.
(07:16):
Just be yourself because trends come andgo, and you can't shine in
someone else's shadow. I think themost important thing you can be it's true
to yourself and just let that shinethrough. And you know, be patient
because it takes a while. Ittakes a lot of hard work. But
(07:39):
you know, if you really lovewhat you do and you work hard at
it and you don't kind of giveinto the trappings here and there, you
know, you can be pretty successful. Yeah, I would definitely agree with
that. What's the typical day ofthe week, like for you, wake
up, work out, so ifyou prayers for a good day and start
(08:07):
work on music, okay, andthat could be anything. That could be
you know, trying to write anew song right now, I'm trying to
get the keyboard parts down for mynext record. I've been working a lot
on that. It could just berehearsing for a show that I'm going to
be doing. But that'll usually takeme to dinner, and then sometimes after
dinner, I go right back towork and you know, work until ten
(08:30):
thirty at night. If I'm notat a show. When you look at
COVID, right, COVID kind ofaffected us all differently. But tell us
about if you could do it allover again, was there something different you
would do? No, Actually Iwas pretty good with it. I did
eventually get it, but I gotit at the tail end, when it
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was going away. I cut iton April twenty twenty two. It was
when I eventually got it, butI was no. I you know,
it sucked. I mean, noone, no one liked it. I
hate it being locked inside, couldn'tgo anywhere, couldn't do anything. I
just kind of wrote it out likeeveryone else. I think, considering the
(09:11):
situation, I don't think there's anythingelse I could have done differently. Okay,
tell us about this song We're GonnaHear No One Around. That was
actually an older song that I wrote, and when I was putting together this
record, you know, I dustedit off and said, you know,
this is a really good song.I don't want this just getting lost.
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So I decided I wanted to recordit, and I wrote it one evening
back home in Seabrook, which isa supper refuston down the bank, after
walking through the Bayous one night withmy girlfriend and as about someone reflecting back
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on a forbidden love off there theyhad as a teenager. And you know,
I I kind of recorded at mylittle home studio, and then when
I put the keyboards to it,it really stood out that this is gonna
be an awesome song. And Irecorded it and then I set it up
to Canada to my lead guitarist,I haven't petted and said, you know,
(10:15):
took him a little bit what Iwas looking for, and when he
sent back, I was just like, yes, you nailed it. That
was perfect. And I really lovedthe way this song came together, and
it's actually my favorite on the record. Okay, all right, I'll tell
you what. Let's let's take alisten. We'll come back and talk.
Okay, all right, all right, everybody check this out. Here we
go. I still hear the fagwas come. I still see face through
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the trees. I remember I lovedyou following me, get me. I
waited in the shadow for you twocome along. We were until the evening
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sun on. There was no waterrun the sun had long together there on
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the ground. There was no one, no one. Your mama couldn't never
fund down, Daddy could never knowit. Will wanted to go back home,
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back home. We couldn't stop thefeeling down by the water and night
away from the world. In thecross up, there was no run,
(12:43):
the sun had long gone down togetherthere on the ground, and there was
no no wanna ride. I stillhear the pat was come. I still
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see a face through the tree.I remember I loved you fall in me.
I still hear the black I stillplay all right. Thank you Pam
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for sharing that with us. Ifyou could talk straight to a listener that
is following you, is there amessage you would want them to take from
your music. M I just wantI just want people to relate to it.
I hope they relate to it.I write about a lot of different
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topics. I try not to beone dimensional, and I try to reach
all people, you know, andI just I think, I guess.
My favorite thing to muse when peoplewalk up after a show and tell me
how much a song hit home tothem. You know how much it touched
them, and you know, hopefullythat's that's what it does for people.
Yeah, So, Pam, oneof the things I like to ask a
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lot of guesses about scams. Isthere a scam you want to warn other
songwriters about, or one that youmight have fallen for or front fell for.
If it sounds too good to betrue, it probably is. I
as someone reach out to me sayingthey heard my music and they wanted to
sign me to their record label.And they were in Atlanta. I can't
even remember the name of them.And all I had to do was fly
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myself down there and give them fivehundred dollars to get everything set up and
we'll sign the contract. And I'mlike, what you know, And sadly,
I think there might be some peoplewho'd fall for that. A record
company is never going to ask youfor money for ever ever. So if
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you've got someone who says they're arecord label, not a management promotion company,
a label you know like Mercury,Sony, Warner Brothers, and they
say just give us money and we'llget you set up, it's a scam.
Yeah, Yeah, you're completely right. Here's this. You trust these
people to promote you and throw moneyat you to market you and get you
(15:54):
to the next level, but theywant you to paid yourself to fly out
there. It's it's crazy. Yeah, I mean, that's that's when you
know that. I mean, andI had met with record labels before,
so I, you know, justmessaged them back and saying, you know,
I've met with Mercury Records and theydidn't ask me for a time,
So I don't think you're in theup and up, and I'm sorry,
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I'm gonna have to decline. Andyou know, I guess that's Sally.
There might be some people and youknow, in a management company, you
know that's something totally different. Youknow you will pay them, but you
you know, you research them,research anybody you're going to do business with,
and see what their background is,you know, see what their history
is, what kind of a wardsthey've won, mpt us as, they
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have just a really incredible reputation.They won a lot of awards, They've
got a lot of really great clientele. You can look and see all the
streaming and publicity they get. Andthat's how I knew that they were very
legitimate company. Just searched up.Check them out, check anybody out.
Yeah, and the truth is right. If we had bigger followings and made
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a lot more money than managers wouldjust take a percentage. But when you
don't have any of that, yeah, if you want one, it's going
to cost you something for them towork on your behalf. It's as simple
as thing it is, especially withstreaming paying you know, less than a
cent per stream. You know,that's just the world we live in now.
Yeah, absolutely, So tell usa little bit about the new things
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that you're working on for the fans. Well, the next single comes out
August eighteenth. That's going to becalled you Don't Know My Name, and
that definitely leans more on the rockside as opposed to my current single,
which falls more on Americanic country.And so I'm looking forward to that release.
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And we'll be releasing songs from thisrecord one every two months, so
we'll be going till about April twentytwenty four and then probably take a month
of a break and then start releasingnew stuff. I just spoke with FJ
at Good Luck Studio today and setup some time in October to start going
in and start recording new songs,and reached out to I've impetted up in
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Canada about you know, being mylead guitarist again and just getting things set
up for the next record. Believeit or not, what's your favorite eighties
jam? If you will admit toit on the show. My Favorite Eighties
jam Oh, that's a tough one, but it might be something like Hot
for Teacher by Van Halen. I'ma huge Eddie fan, Like, Eddie's
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my guitar hero. Yeah, soanything you know they were doing back then.
You two released a lot of greatmusic back then, so did Springsteen.
Yeah. Absolutely, I mean allthose people you mentioned are icons.
I mean, can't go wrong withany of them. Tell us about your
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experience in the music in the street. Do you feel like women get a
fairchete compared to mind or do youthink it's still kind of opsided. I
think for the most part, it'sgotten a lot better. I think back
when I was younger, you know, you know, seeing a girl with
a guitar, they're like, ohcan she really play? You know,
that kind of thing. But itreally is getting a lot better. It
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truly is. I think women aredefinitely getting a lot more respect in the
business and being taken a lot moreseriously. I think you're completely right.
I remember people yelling at people,and now it's not uncommon to see a
female guitarist drummer anything they want todo. I think it's gotten better,
but I feel like we still havea long way to go. But it's
(19:38):
definitely had in the right direction.Yeah, you kind of have to be
a little bit better than other peoplesometimes to to you know, catch their
attention. Yeah, but you know, if you are, you can make
yourself stand out, you get thatrespect. Yeah. I think people nowadays,
(19:59):
especially the people that are are reallyin it, everyone thinks everyone's kind
of the same. It doesn't matterwhat your sexuality, it doesn't matter,
none of that stuff matters, thecolor of your skin. I think if
you're good, people can tell andthey listen to your vocals, if you
touch them, if you're authentic,if you play the guitar. It's more
about the music and the lyrics andthe songwriting. Yes, yes, I'll
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agree. Yeah, if you're goodenough, people will pass that stuff now
a lot more and they just wantto hear good music. Yeah, and
that's that's hard to find sometimes,Like you look at the charts and you're
like, wow, this song isreleased two years ago, and you know,
streaming people love it or hate it. It gives you a lot more
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exposure. A lot of the oldrock bands really are the most played rock
things, so it's given them,you know, it's exposed them to younger
audiences. So it's it's good andbad and we can debate that all day
long. But yeah, I'm justthankful when people listen to my stuff,
even though it doesn't pay much.Yeah, the death you know, Yeah,
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you're right, there's good and badto it. There's an exposure you
can get that you never could havegotten before. But you know, the
drawback is, you know, Ialways say, if I just made a
dollar per stream, just a dollar, yeah, holy hell, would I
be having a great year? Wouldbe? Can you imagine? Yeah that's
true. Oh I would be sittingpretty but you know, getting you know,
(21:23):
less than I think it's like pointzero four or something like that.
Yeah, and that, and that'sthat's the downside of it. That's the
heart you can get taken advantage of. And there's really not a lot you
can do, so you just takethe good with the bad and roll with
it. Yeah, I agree withyou, Pam, So tell us where
people can buy your stuff, streamit? Where can they hook up with
you online? My website is PamRoss music dot com and you know there
(21:49):
you can buy t shirts, youcan see my videos, you can buy
my music, see where where I'mplaying at because my shows are on there
see reviews and all kinds of stuff. And also you can stream or buy
my music anywhere Apple, Amazon,Spotify, you name it, Pam Ross
(22:12):
and pam Ross Music on Facebook,Pam Ross Music on Instagram. I kept
it very simple. I'm not hardto find, Okay, I'll tell you
what I want to. Thank youso much for being on the show tonight.
It was an absolute blast. Thankyou so much for having me.
I really appreciate it. Welcome Patand tell the listeners out there thank you
for sharing a little bit of yourtime with the two of us. We
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both sincerely thank you, and weboth hope your unique story gets heard around
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Are you a songwriter? Are youlooking to turn your songwriting fashion into a
full time gig. Whether you arejust at the start of your songwriting journey
or a seasoned industry professionals, thisshow is made for you. Welcome to
the Songwriter Show, bringing together songwritingnews, interviews and community. Now,
(00:21):
welcome your host, Sorrantos. Thankyou so much for tuning in and welcome
back to the Songwriter Show right hereon Reality Radio one oh one. I'm
your host, Serrantos. I'm asolo music artist who's been writing lyrics forever.
Words are so important to me,and that's why I'm thrilled to host
this show every Tuesday evening. Ibelieve that every song is a story.
(00:46):
Tonight, I'm excited to have PamRoss. She was born in Pittsburgh but
spent most of her life in Houston, Texas. She currently lives in North
Carolina. Her music is often classifiedas Americano, but really defies any particular
genre. Fans and friends have beenbegun calling it Pam Musics. It's style
unique to her. It's a mashupof country, rock, blues, and
(01:07):
pop. You never know what you'regoing to get from one song to the
next. Her first video, Firein the Hall, has already run three
awards, and it's up for BestMusic Video in the Carolina Film Festival.
And now welcome this week's special guest. Welcome to show Pam. How you
doing doing just fine? How areyou doing? I'm doing good. So
(01:27):
I'm looking at Pittsburgh, Texas,North Carolina. So I won't hold any
of that against you. I'm fromChicago, but I love all those areas.
So tell us a little bit aboutdo you feel like you're settled in
now on North Carolina? Are yougonna be moving in a year or two?
Ah? Well, yeah, rightnow, you know, we're settled
in here. And it's you know, I do miss Houston because I missed
(01:53):
living on the water really, butit's a nice place. Oh yeah,
we're we're kind of settled in forright now. Okay. So the one
thing I remember by Houston, Texasis Pappas Brothers Steakhouse, which I absolutely
love. Yes, I don't knowif you've been there, but their peacm
pie is a bust I've ever had. Yes, bend to Papa's Benta.
(02:13):
They've got a bunch of different ones. They've got a steakhouse, a Mexican
of seafood. They're all good,all right. So tell us about you.
What's your instrument? Is it vocals? Is something else you play?
It's vocals, rhythm, guitar,and keyboards, okay, the things that
I do. What's your favorite?What's your favorite? If you had to
(02:35):
pick one? The guitar, Okay, that's what I'm really most proficient on.
I started playing keyboards just about ouryear and a half ago, maybe
two years somewhere in there, andit was something I always wanted to do
and finally went and did it.And so I do play keyboards on my
records, but I wouldn't really callmyself like a piano player. I've got
(02:59):
an for coming up with hooks andmelodies, but you know, I'm not
like someone who just gets down andjams on the keyboards like I can do
on guitar. Yeah, And howdo you start the process of writing a
song? It's something you do everyday. Tell us a little bit about
that. No, I don't doit every day. I try to do
it often because I think the moreyou write, the better you get,
(03:23):
and also the more songs you have, the more you have to choose from
to put on a record. Youknow, the more good ones you're going
to get. You write one songevery two months, you know, your
chances of having a really good oneget reduced. And for me, it
usually starts with just me messing aroundon my guitar, coming up with melodies,
and that sort of takes me somewhereand I try and write the music
(03:46):
and lyrics together. It doesn't alwayshappen that way, but usually. Yeah.
Is your family musical by any chance? Nope, not that I'm aware
of one. Okay, Hey,I'm kind of the same way some distant
relatives, But hey, it's wedo what we do, right. Yeah.
(04:06):
Any teachers that you've taken through theyears that you want to give a
shout out to, No, notreally. Pretty much just developed on my
own. You know, I've alwayslistened to music. I've always just really
been tracted to it. So I'vebeen listening to it literally my whole life
a lot. So when I finallystarted writing songs, I just kind of
(04:30):
knew how to write them by followingwhat I liked on the radio. I
knew you did a couple of choruses, you did a verse, and then
you had this other piece which Ilearned later was a bridge and just sort
of put it together. I haveworked with some professional songwriters in Nashville through
a thing called song You, andthey really did help me developed my song
(04:55):
writing a little bit better, makingthe imagery more clear in my lyrics and
fine tuning things. So they weredefinitely a help. But the basic structure
of it, I just always kindof, like I said, knew how
to do it from listening to thesongs that I liked and just writing like
(05:16):
that. Yeah, okay, tellus a little bit about your fondest musical
memory to date. My fondest musicalmemory to date. Gee, that might
be getting signed on with MTS,which was just a really big breakthrough for
me. They've really helped my careerso much and that was just like a
(05:43):
really huge achievement for me. Tellus a little bit about any collaborations that
you have loved that have been reallycool for you. I haven't had any.
Oh, okay, makes it easy. I mean I end up producing.
I do co produced with f J. Ventre, who owns the recording
studio good Luck Studio in Chapple Hill, North Carolina. That's really the closest
(06:09):
collaborating I've come with is co producingwith him and working with the other musicians
and you know, going back andforth with them saying, you know,
this is what I want to hearand whatever. But writing the songs,
I really just sit down and I'vealways done that alone. We each have
a different process and there's nothing wrongwith that. Yeah, I'm open to
it. I just haven't met anyoneI've ever sat down and wrote with.
(06:31):
Is there any famous musicians you'd loveto collaborate with? Oh? Yeah,
like Tony Arrata. A lot ofpeople don't really know him, but he's
written countless number one country hit songs, most notably The Dance by Garth Brooks
Here I Am by Patty Loveless.He would be an incredible person to write
with. I'm a big food Fighterfan, so I would love to write
(06:54):
with Dave Grohl, and I knowElton John's retired, but if he ever
wants to write a song with someoneand he's not around, I'm willing to
Stephania there. Yes, that's verynice of you to offer that. What
kind of advice would you give abeginner in this industry who's really nervous.
I think there's several things. Numberone, don't get caught up in trends.
(07:16):
Just be yourself because trends come andgo, and you can't shine in
someone else's shadow. I think themost important thing you can be it's true
to yourself and just let that shinethrough. And you know, be patient
because it takes a while. Ittakes a lot of hard work. But
(07:39):
you know, if you really lovewhat you do and you work hard at
it and you don't kind of giveinto the trappings here and there, you
know, you can be pretty successful. Yeah, I would definitely agree with
that. What's the typical day ofthe week, like for you, wake
up, work out, so ifyou prayers for a good day and start
(08:07):
work on music, okay, andthat could be anything. That could be
you know, trying to write anew song right now, I'm trying to
get the keyboard parts down for mynext record. I've been working a lot
on that. It could just berehearsing for a show that I'm going to
be doing. But that'll usually takeme to dinner, and then sometimes after
dinner, I go right back towork and you know, work until ten
(08:30):
thirty at night. If I'm notat a show. When you look at
COVID, right, COVID kind ofaffected us all differently. But tell us
about if you could do it allover again, was there something different you
would do? No, Actually Iwas pretty good with it. I did
eventually get it, but I gotit at the tail end, when it
(08:50):
was going away. I cut iton April twenty twenty two. It was
when I eventually got it, butI was no. I you know,
it sucked. I mean, noone, no one liked it. I
hate it being locked inside, couldn'tgo anywhere, couldn't do anything. I
just kind of wrote it out likeeveryone else. I think, considering the
(09:11):
situation, I don't think there's anythingelse I could have done differently. Okay,
tell us about this song We're GonnaHear No One Around. That was
actually an older song that I wrote, and when I was putting together this
record, you know, I dustedit off and said, you know,
this is a really good song.I don't want this just getting lost.
(09:31):
So I decided I wanted to recordit, and I wrote it one evening
back home in Seabrook, which isa supper refuston down the bank, after
walking through the Bayous one night withmy girlfriend and as about someone reflecting back
(09:52):
on a forbidden love off there theyhad as a teenager. And you know,
I I kind of recorded at mylittle home studio, and then when
I put the keyboards to it,it really stood out that this is gonna
be an awesome song. And Irecorded it and then I set it up
to Canada to my lead guitarist,I haven't petted and said, you know,
(10:15):
took him a little bit what Iwas looking for, and when he
sent back, I was just like, yes, you nailed it. That
was perfect. And I really lovedthe way this song came together, and
it's actually my favorite on the record. Okay, all right, I'll tell
you what. Let's let's take alisten. We'll come back and talk.
Okay, all right, all right, everybody check this out. Here we
go. I still hear the fagwas come. I still see face through
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the trees. I remember I lovedyou following me, get me. I
waited in the shadow for you twocome along. We were until the evening
(11:22):
sun on. There was no waterrun the sun had long together there on
(11:43):
the ground. There was no one, no one. Your mama couldn't never
fund down, Daddy could never knowit. Will wanted to go back home,
(12:13):
back home. We couldn't stop thefeeling down by the water and night
away from the world. In thecross up, there was no run,
(12:43):
the sun had long gone down togetherthere on the ground, and there was
no no wanna ride. I stillhear the pat was come. I still
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see a face through the tree.I remember I loved you fall in me.
I still hear the black I stillplay all right. Thank you Pam
(14:03):
for sharing that with us. Ifyou could talk straight to a listener that
is following you, is there amessage you would want them to take from
your music. M I just wantI just want people to relate to it.
I hope they relate to it.I write about a lot of different
(14:24):
topics. I try not to beone dimensional, and I try to reach
all people, you know, andI just I think, I guess.
My favorite thing to muse when peoplewalk up after a show and tell me
how much a song hit home tothem. You know how much it touched
them, and you know, hopefullythat's that's what it does for people.
Yeah, So, Pam, oneof the things I like to ask a
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lot of guesses about scams. Isthere a scam you want to warn other
songwriters about, or one that youmight have fallen for or front fell for.
If it sounds too good to betrue, it probably is. I
as someone reach out to me sayingthey heard my music and they wanted to
sign me to their record label.And they were in Atlanta. I can't
even remember the name of them.And all I had to do was fly
(15:09):
myself down there and give them fivehundred dollars to get everything set up and
we'll sign the contract. And I'mlike, what you know, And sadly,
I think there might be some peoplewho'd fall for that. A record
company is never going to ask youfor money for ever ever. So if
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you've got someone who says they're arecord label, not a management promotion company,
a label you know like Mercury,Sony, Warner Brothers, and they
say just give us money and we'llget you set up, it's a scam.
Yeah, Yeah, you're completely right. Here's this. You trust these
people to promote you and throw moneyat you to market you and get you
(15:54):
to the next level, but theywant you to paid yourself to fly out
there. It's it's crazy. Yeah, I mean, that's that's when you
know that. I mean, andI had met with record labels before,
so I, you know, justmessaged them back and saying, you know,
I've met with Mercury Records and theydidn't ask me for a time,
So I don't think you're in theup and up, and I'm sorry,
(16:15):
I'm gonna have to decline. Andyou know, I guess that's Sally.
There might be some people and youknow, in a management company, you
know that's something totally different. Youknow you will pay them, but you
you know, you research them,research anybody you're going to do business with,
and see what their background is,you know, see what their history
is, what kind of a wardsthey've won, mpt us as, they
(16:37):
have just a really incredible reputation.They won a lot of awards, They've
got a lot of really great clientele. You can look and see all the
streaming and publicity they get. Andthat's how I knew that they were very
legitimate company. Just searched up.Check them out, check anybody out.
Yeah, and the truth is right. If we had bigger followings and made
(17:00):
a lot more money than managers wouldjust take a percentage. But when you
don't have any of that, yeah, if you want one, it's going
to cost you something for them towork on your behalf. It's as simple
as thing it is, especially withstreaming paying you know, less than a
cent per stream. You know,that's just the world we live in now.
Yeah, absolutely, So tell usa little bit about the new things
(17:25):
that you're working on for the fans. Well, the next single comes out
August eighteenth. That's going to becalled you Don't Know My Name, and
that definitely leans more on the rockside as opposed to my current single,
which falls more on Americanic country.And so I'm looking forward to that release.
(17:47):
And we'll be releasing songs from thisrecord one every two months, so
we'll be going till about April twentytwenty four and then probably take a month
of a break and then start releasingnew stuff. I just spoke with FJ
at Good Luck Studio today and setup some time in October to start going
in and start recording new songs,and reached out to I've impetted up in
(18:11):
Canada about you know, being mylead guitarist again and just getting things set
up for the next record. Believeit or not, what's your favorite eighties
jam? If you will admit toit on the show. My Favorite Eighties
jam Oh, that's a tough one, but it might be something like Hot
for Teacher by Van Halen. I'ma huge Eddie fan, Like, Eddie's
(18:33):
my guitar hero. Yeah, soanything you know they were doing back then.
You two released a lot of greatmusic back then, so did Springsteen.
Yeah. Absolutely, I mean allthose people you mentioned are icons.
I mean, can't go wrong withany of them. Tell us about your
(18:55):
experience in the music in the street. Do you feel like women get a
fairchete compared to mind or do youthink it's still kind of opsided. I
think for the most part, it'sgotten a lot better. I think back
when I was younger, you know, you know, seeing a girl with
a guitar, they're like, ohcan she really play? You know,
that kind of thing. But itreally is getting a lot better. It
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truly is. I think women aredefinitely getting a lot more respect in the
business and being taken a lot moreseriously. I think you're completely right.
I remember people yelling at people,and now it's not uncommon to see a
female guitarist drummer anything they want todo. I think it's gotten better,
but I feel like we still havea long way to go. But it's
(19:38):
definitely had in the right direction.Yeah, you kind of have to be
a little bit better than other peoplesometimes to to you know, catch their
attention. Yeah, but you know, if you are, you can make
yourself stand out, you get thatrespect. Yeah. I think people nowadays,
(19:59):
especially the people that are are reallyin it, everyone thinks everyone's kind
of the same. It doesn't matterwhat your sexuality, it doesn't matter,
none of that stuff matters, thecolor of your skin. I think if
you're good, people can tell andthey listen to your vocals, if you
touch them, if you're authentic,if you play the guitar. It's more
about the music and the lyrics andthe songwriting. Yes, yes, I'll
(20:19):
agree. Yeah, if you're goodenough, people will pass that stuff now
a lot more and they just wantto hear good music. Yeah, and
that's that's hard to find sometimes,Like you look at the charts and you're
like, wow, this song isreleased two years ago, and you know,
streaming people love it or hate it. It gives you a lot more
(20:40):
exposure. A lot of the oldrock bands really are the most played rock
things, so it's given them,you know, it's exposed them to younger
audiences. So it's it's good andbad and we can debate that all day
long. But yeah, I'm justthankful when people listen to my stuff,
even though it doesn't pay much.Yeah, the death you know, Yeah,
(21:00):
you're right, there's good and badto it. There's an exposure you
can get that you never could havegotten before. But you know, the
drawback is, you know, Ialways say, if I just made a
dollar per stream, just a dollar, yeah, holy hell, would I
be having a great year? Wouldbe? Can you imagine? Yeah that's
true. Oh I would be sittingpretty but you know, getting you know,
(21:23):
less than I think it's like pointzero four or something like that.
Yeah, and that, and that'sthat's the downside of it. That's the
heart you can get taken advantage of. And there's really not a lot you
can do, so you just takethe good with the bad and roll with
it. Yeah, I agree withyou, Pam, So tell us where
people can buy your stuff, streamit? Where can they hook up with
you online? My website is PamRoss music dot com and you know there
(21:49):
you can buy t shirts, youcan see my videos, you can buy
my music, see where where I'mplaying at because my shows are on there
see reviews and all kinds of stuff. And also you can stream or buy
my music anywhere Apple, Amazon,Spotify, you name it, Pam Ross
(22:12):
and pam Ross Music on Facebook,Pam Ross Music on Instagram. I kept
it very simple. I'm not hardto find, Okay, I'll tell you
what I want to. Thank youso much for being on the show tonight.
It was an absolute blast. Thankyou so much for having me.
I really appreciate it. Welcome Patand tell the listeners out there thank you
for sharing a little bit of yourtime with the two of us. We
(22:34):
both sincerely thank you, and weboth hope your unique story gets heard around
the world. My name is Sarrantos. Please join me every Tuesday nights here
other awesome artists share their fascinating behindthe scenes stories right here at the Songwriters
Show on Reality Radio one on one. Have a great night, everybody.
I love you, guys. Iran away to the city that one day.
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There I found so much trouble,nearly dry. The boat taste was
a thriebuway on and up be ina corner bedy d I much dawn brush
(23:40):
has no real freedom in the racewas the smell of under and rain fa,
What did you grass side and thunderthe miracle, said tired eyes.
(24:04):
I said it back, call mecaught it cared. I was trapped as
(24:44):
scared. I couldn't stop me,forgot everything you taught me. You write
beaches lashed on so time. Ilive, my listen late, but now
my make make my greatest scarce.The journey was, but I came back
(25:22):
many many. I'm come hard.I'm come hard. The joy good.
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Thank you for listening to The SongwriterShow. To keep the momentum going,
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