Bic Runga is back with her first new album in fifteen years.
She spoke with John MacDonald about her new album, Red Sunset, and touched on what genres inspired the album.
"I'm always inspired by anything from the 60's and 70's especially."
She also spoke about her biggest hit Sway, and its everlasting popularity thirty years on.
"It found a life of its own, I never thought that would happen."
Runga embarks on an Australasian tour with the new album and will return home to Christchurch to play the Isaac Theatre Royal on Sunday, March 29th.
The new album, Red Sunset is out now all streaming platforms.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Canterbury Mornings podcast with John McDonald
from News Talk ZB. So cool.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Do you recognize that voice that is there's a big
runger and she's from a new album. It's called Red Sunset,
And I'm delighted that big Wronger is with us now, Beg.
I get a sense that this album it's the sort
of record that you've always wanted to make but couldn't.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Yeah kind of thing. I mean, you know, it's a
bit it's a bit lot. It's a bit long between
drinks with this one. Like I haven't made an originals
album for like fifteen years, and there's a lot of
sort of you know, navel gazing and second guessing yourself
and freaking out. And then I don't know, family just
became more important. So but yeah, now I'm ready to
(00:59):
kind of come back out and write songs again. I've
got a bit more concentration time with it, with you know,
my kids getting older and happy with it.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Have you got more to say or you've just got
more space.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I've got more space.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I think I always had things to say that that
you know, just didn't have the brain span, I suppose.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
But yeah, it's it's it's more experimental as well.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Like I think it's you don't want to bore your
audience or bore yourself and just repeat yourself. So it's
just finding a new way to come at it.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, I mean I read that you didn't care too
much whether your fans like than your songs or not.
That is that true?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
No, I never said that.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I wow, do someone interpret it that way? You know?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Wow, that's no. I wouldn't say such a thing.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Of course, you want people to like it otherwise otherwise Yeah, no.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
You I mean no, I think no.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I think probably what you're trying to say is I
have really low expectations now because it's a really different
world releasing music. People have no you know, attention span
for sort of like get digesting new songs that they
don't know. So, you know, it's a big ask really
to get to ask people to kind of get inside something.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, but if you look at the title track of
the album read Sunset, I mean it's almost got to
beefer feel to it.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Use I've never been there. Yeah, I mean, I guess
it's just like.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I wanted to make something fun, you know, like it's
it does sound, it doesn't really.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Sound like me.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
It's still my voice and it's still my lyric writing
and melody writing, but the sound, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
It's just like I'm mean to share right now, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Which which which era? Which era?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Just like every era, like literally every era of sheare.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
She's my She's my spirit animal right now, because you know,
like I'm not, I'm not super young anymore, and I
just but I don't want to stop. And it's just
like people like that really inspire me to kind of
keep going.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
So if you're going to do a Sheer cover, which
one would you go for?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
You love? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Turn bic time, man, everyone takes and make it well,
not even but you know I might make it. That's
a great tune. Though.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
She's amazing and everything she says is amazing. She says
is the most hysterical things. Yeah, she's cool.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
He's rock cool.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
What are you saying? Because you were saying I'm old
now and I was reading something you're describing yourself as
a little old lady. I mean you're not, You're not old,
but just rock and roll make you feel old.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Old four year You need the energy of an eighteen
year old for sure.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Like which I don't have. And that's when I started.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I started really young, but I don't know, like I've
got more, but I know how to do things better
so so I can work more efficiently and stuff.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
But yeah, it's it tends to be a young person's business.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, I mean you're going to be an empty Nesta soon,
aren't you. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, ones in university this week and you know it's
really different.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
So yeah, which university?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Wellington? The kids are all going to Wellington.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Well two might have just finished Wellington. Actually, oh nice.
They like it, they do, they really. They had a
really good time with their mates. They did notice, they
did notice during their three years though, that sort of
downturn and well yeah I really noticed that.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Yeah, no, that's not good.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
But I hope that those kids kind of make it cool,
you know, like it's part of that's part of their
job is to put a book, put their vibe into
a town. Those student towns, they just grow culturally. If
if those kids are like like being creative and getting
into it making gigs and it's cool, I love it.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
When were you last in christ because this is your hometown.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Really recently we had the Apros Silver Scroll there a
songwriting award.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
And I loved it.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
It was such a good I loved being there and
that it was just a classic still.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Warm crash each day and I just I started looking.
I started looking to see what houses they were around.
I was like, yeah, this is Paradise.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Everybody says that, and you know I would say that
because you know, I'm a local. I'm a local here
as well. But what made me ask you that is,
how do you think it would be being the eighteen
year old Beck getting int into the music industry in
christ Church of Now versus the Christ Church of then.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Oh yeah, I mean I think, like what I said
about Wellington, I think like the kids have to make
their own fun. You know, it's up to you to
kind of put on little shows and you know, start
little bands and you know, just put your vibe into
the place we really need it.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
So I would have just done I would have just
been really diy about it. And I think that's that's
still how I think.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
You know, you just have to the musicians have to
make the party, you know, like they have to make
some stuff.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
The new album. You recorded it in Paris last year.
How did it come about?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Well, I joined a board of an ex co, a
of a group called SAM which is a French organization
that represents artists musicians specifically. But so I got this
cool like job and that was the first meeting I had,
and I just thought.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
This is crazy, this is like a dream.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I drinked this and I brought my family and I
brought recording gear and just made the.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Most of it.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
So we started the record there and then we brought
it home and finished it there.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
So it wasn't in a studio, it.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Was we don't really need a studio. Actually this is
my home studio, you know. It's like it's all I need.
And things are just easier to record like that these days.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, And I mean some of the tracks I've already
talked about the title track being sort of having a
beef of feel, but you know, ghost in your Bed
and it's like summertime. I would say they're very motown.
Was that your intention?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Yeah, I'm always inspired by that stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I'm always inspired by sort of anything from the sixties
seventies especially, And yeah, yes, you're right, it's stylistically it
does sort of do a few different things this record.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And said be Canniby Mornings with John McDonald. Bick wrong
is whether she's put out an album. It's called Red
Sunset and it's the first the collection of new material,
all new material she's put out in fifteen years. And
just what we go back to Vickers playing a little
bit of the track all like Summertime that we were
talking about just before, the one that I said has
(07:14):
got a bit of a motown feeling. I mean say,
if you feel the same thing, we'll hear the same thing.
Oh hearing is.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Just like.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
It's like.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
It's got a very much motown feel. I get the
feeling that what this album, you did it your way
and the way you wanted to Was that was that liberating?
Speaker 4 (07:50):
I think so?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, because I was never like desperately trying to stay
in the game and have mad hits like one after
the other. That's a big that's a different kind of job,
you know, Like and if I wanted to do that,
I'd go and find the biggest you know, American producer
and all those things.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
But I'm playing a different game.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I'm playing to like just an honest sort of you know,
working musicians game. And yeah, and it just had to
fit in with family and person and stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Is that the game you played that right at the start?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Or we think No, I probably had more like ambition
to just do really well and I had the energy.
But yeah, and we in the first three records, I
made into the charts at number one and so but
then when you get one that doesn't work, then you
kind of like really have to reassess everything. And I
probably didn't have the skills to know how to get
(08:39):
back up over that sort of like you know what,
perceived failure.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
But yeah, different, it's different now you just do what
you want to do.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
How So did you have a bit of a confidence
thing there for a while?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
A confidence thing I just actually felt sort of impossible.
It just sort of thought. I just sort of thought,
you know, we were selling out big shows in the UK,
and I'd met all my heroes, and I just thought
that's probably about where I should stop and go and home,
go home and have a family.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
So yeah, yeah, it was okay. It was. It was.
It felt hard, but it was it was okay.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
So who are the heroes that you ticked off?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Oh, like Bob Dylan and you know Jimmy Page from Led.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Zippel, Well he came to one of your shows to
Jimmy Page.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I just thought, if that's not my definition of success,
then I don't know. Well you know what I mean,
Like I and I had nothing left in the tank.
So I was like, that'll do you know? And then
and then I came home.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So how how are you going to make share? You've
got to meet her now.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I don't know, Share, I love you, come to find me.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Okay, Well that's going to be online before you know.
She'll be doing sway before you know it.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
She's an inspiration.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I look back at all her when she was a
television presenter, she had her own show and the amazing
things she wore, and I don't know, like she's the
ultimate like icon for you know, a long career.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So you come from a musical family. How musical is
your family? Your kids?
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Oh yeah, they're really getting into it.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
You know. I didn't have to push it on them
at all. And I think that's the wrong thing to do,
you know. And they have to be self motivated. And
they actually just became self motivated in the last few years.
And I think it's to do with role modeling. If
they see someone do it like if they see a
friend get up on stage, that makes them feel like
they can do it. So yeah, there's a bit of
a scene of kids making bands at their schools and it's.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Cool, brilliant. So you're coming to christ Church doing the
show at the Isaac Theater Royal. What are we going
to see in that concept? What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
A lot of a new album and a lot of
the old songs and you know, my band's really gray,
and you know, I'm excited to play a christ Church.
I'm excited to play these new songs because people, Yeah,
I haven't brought anything new in a long time, so
it's going to be cool.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
It must be amazing though, like you know, the new
stuff's brilliant and everything else in between is brilliant, but
it must be amazing amazing when you get the reaction
you do to sign was like Sway, I mean, just
start playing it and the place might swoon.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
I mean, it's cool.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Sway found a life of its own and there's been
a lot of big covers of it. There was a
really big artist called Beaver Doobe covered it, and Amy
Sharp with Rehab. These are really big artists, the way
bigger than men so they've they've you know, they've found
the song thirty years later and it's still living its life.
It's cool, Like I never thought that would happen.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Do you see Push Pusher back?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I love Push Push?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I remember Push Push Mike, you have a nice guy.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
They're on the TV the other night and it's all go.
Is that? Is that another sort of mesh up? You're
going to do? Genre crossing? Hey, it's very nice to
talk to you. We are looking forward to seeing it
and all of the very best with the tour. You've
got more songs in the head? Is there another going
(12:00):
to wait another fifteen years or not?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
No? I don't think I don't have another fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
So yeah, you're so old, I'll take it easier, right,
I thank you big. It's absolutely fantastic. So March the
twenty ninth at the Isaac Theater all in christ Church
is when Bikoronga is going to be in town. I
mean it is a brilliant album that I'll give you
another little sample. This one's called Paris and the Rain.
(12:56):
So I quite like the fact they went. They went
there to do some stuff, took some recording gear with
them and ended up recording a lot of the album
in Paris and that is one of the tracks Paris
in the Rhine, so drop that down but longer live
in christ Church, Isaac Theatre, Royal are much Sweet night,
very nice to talk.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
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You're listening to the Canterbury Mornings podcast with John McDonald
from News Talk ZB. So cool.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Do you recognize that voice that is there's a big
runger and she's from a new album. It's called Red Sunset,
And I'm delighted that big Wronger is with us now, Beg.
I get a sense that this album it's the sort
of record that you've always wanted to make but couldn't.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Yeah kind of thing. I mean, you know, it's a
bit it's a bit lot. It's a bit long between
drinks with this one. Like I haven't made an originals
album for like fifteen years, and there's a lot of
sort of you know, navel gazing and second guessing yourself
and freaking out. And then I don't know, family just
became more important. So but yeah, now I'm ready to
(00:59):
kind of come back out and write songs again. I've
got a bit more concentration time with it, with you know,
my kids getting older and happy with it.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Have you got more to say or you've just got
more space.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
I've got more space.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I think I always had things to say that that
you know, just didn't have the brain span, I suppose.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
But yeah, it's it's it's more experimental as well.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Like I think it's you don't want to bore your
audience or bore yourself and just repeat yourself. So it's
just finding a new way to come at it.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, I mean I read that you didn't care too
much whether your fans like than your songs or not.
That is that true?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
No, I never said that.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I wow, do someone interpret it that way? You know?
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Wow, that's no. I wouldn't say such a thing.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Of course, you want people to like it otherwise otherwise Yeah, no.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
You I mean no, I think no.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I think probably what you're trying to say is I
have really low expectations now because it's a really different
world releasing music. People have no you know, attention span
for sort of like get digesting new songs that they
don't know. So, you know, it's a big ask really
to get to ask people to kind of get inside something.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, but if you look at the title track of
the album read Sunset, I mean it's almost got to
beefer feel to it.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Use I've never been there. Yeah, I mean, I guess
it's just like.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I wanted to make something fun, you know, like it's
it does sound, it doesn't really.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Sound like me.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
It's still my voice and it's still my lyric writing
and melody writing, but the sound, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
It's just like I'm mean to share right now, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Which which which era? Which era?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Just like every era, like literally every era of sheare.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
She's my She's my spirit animal right now, because you know,
like I'm not, I'm not super young anymore, and I
just but I don't want to stop. And it's just
like people like that really inspire me to kind of
keep going.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
So if you're going to do a Sheer cover, which
one would you go for?
Speaker 4 (02:51):
You love? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Turn bic time, man, everyone takes and make it well,
not even but you know I might make it. That's
a great tune. Though.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
She's amazing and everything she says is amazing. She says
is the most hysterical things. Yeah, she's cool.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
He's rock cool.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
What are you saying? Because you were saying I'm old
now and I was reading something you're describing yourself as
a little old lady. I mean you're not, You're not old,
but just rock and roll make you feel old.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Old four year You need the energy of an eighteen
year old for sure.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Like which I don't have. And that's when I started.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I started really young, but I don't know, like I've
got more, but I know how to do things better
so so I can work more efficiently and stuff.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
But yeah, it's it tends to be a young person's business.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, I mean you're going to be an empty Nesta soon,
aren't you. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, ones in university this week and you know it's
really different.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
So yeah, which university?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Wellington? The kids are all going to Wellington.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Well two might have just finished Wellington. Actually, oh nice.
They like it, they do, they really. They had a
really good time with their mates. They did notice, they
did notice during their three years though, that sort of
downturn and well yeah I really noticed that.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Yeah, no, that's not good.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
But I hope that those kids kind of make it cool,
you know, like it's part of that's part of their
job is to put a book, put their vibe into
a town. Those student towns, they just grow culturally. If
if those kids are like like being creative and getting
into it making gigs and it's cool, I love it.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
When were you last in christ because this is your hometown.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Really recently we had the Apros Silver Scroll there a
songwriting award.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
And I loved it.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
It was such a good I loved being there and
that it was just a classic still.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Warm crash each day and I just I started looking.
I started looking to see what houses they were around.
I was like, yeah, this is Paradise.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Everybody says that, and you know I would say that
because you know, I'm a local. I'm a local here
as well. But what made me ask you that is,
how do you think it would be being the eighteen
year old Beck getting int into the music industry in
christ Church of Now versus the Christ Church of then.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Oh yeah, I mean I think, like what I said
about Wellington, I think like the kids have to make
their own fun. You know, it's up to you to
kind of put on little shows and you know, start
little bands and you know, just put your vibe into
the place we really need it.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
So I would have just done I would have just
been really diy about it. And I think that's that's
still how I think.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
You know, you just have to the musicians have to
make the party, you know, like they have to make
some stuff.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
The new album. You recorded it in Paris last year.
How did it come about?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Well, I joined a board of an ex co, a
of a group called SAM which is a French organization
that represents artists musicians specifically. But so I got this
cool like job and that was the first meeting I had,
and I just thought.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
This is crazy, this is like a dream.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I drinked this and I brought my family and I
brought recording gear and just made the.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Most of it.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
So we started the record there and then we brought
it home and finished it there.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
So it wasn't in a studio, it.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Was we don't really need a studio. Actually this is
my home studio, you know. It's like it's all I need.
And things are just easier to record like that these days.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, And I mean some of the tracks I've already
talked about the title track being sort of having a
beef of feel, but you know, ghost in your Bed
and it's like summertime. I would say they're very motown.
Was that your intention?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Yeah, I'm always inspired by that stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I'm always inspired by sort of anything from the sixties
seventies especially, And yeah, yes, you're right, it's stylistically it
does sort of do a few different things this record.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And said be Canniby Mornings with John McDonald. Bick wrong
is whether she's put out an album. It's called Red
Sunset and it's the first the collection of new material,
all new material she's put out in fifteen years. And
just what we go back to Vickers playing a little
bit of the track all like Summertime that we were
talking about just before, the one that I said has
(07:14):
got a bit of a motown feeling. I mean say,
if you feel the same thing, we'll hear the same thing.
Oh hearing is.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Just like.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
It's like.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
It's got a very much motown feel. I get the
feeling that what this album, you did it your way
and the way you wanted to Was that was that liberating?
Speaker 4 (07:50):
I think so?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, because I was never like desperately trying to stay
in the game and have mad hits like one after
the other. That's a big that's a different kind of job,
you know, Like and if I wanted to do that,
I'd go and find the biggest you know, American producer
and all those things.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
But I'm playing a different game.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I'm playing to like just an honest sort of you know,
working musicians game. And yeah, and it just had to
fit in with family and person and stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Is that the game you played that right at the start?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Or we think No, I probably had more like ambition
to just do really well and I had the energy.
But yeah, and we in the first three records, I
made into the charts at number one and so but
then when you get one that doesn't work, then you
kind of like really have to reassess everything. And I
probably didn't have the skills to know how to get
(08:39):
back up over that sort of like you know what,
perceived failure.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
But yeah, different, it's different now you just do what
you want to do.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
How So did you have a bit of a confidence
thing there for a while?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
A confidence thing I just actually felt sort of impossible.
It just sort of thought. I just sort of thought,
you know, we were selling out big shows in the UK,
and I'd met all my heroes, and I just thought
that's probably about where I should stop and go and home,
go home and have a family.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
So yeah, yeah, it was okay. It was. It was.
It felt hard, but it was it was okay.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
So who are the heroes that you ticked off?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Oh, like Bob Dylan and you know Jimmy Page from Led.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Zippel, Well he came to one of your shows to
Jimmy Page.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I just thought, if that's not my definition of success,
then I don't know. Well you know what I mean,
Like I and I had nothing left in the tank.
So I was like, that'll do you know? And then
and then I came home.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
So how how are you going to make share? You've
got to meet her now.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I don't know, Share, I love you, come to find me.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Okay, Well that's going to be online before you know.
She'll be doing sway before you know it.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
She's an inspiration.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I look back at all her when she was a
television presenter, she had her own show and the amazing
things she wore, and I don't know, like she's the
ultimate like icon for you know, a long career.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So you come from a musical family. How musical is
your family? Your kids?
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Oh yeah, they're really getting into it.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
You know. I didn't have to push it on them
at all. And I think that's the wrong thing to do,
you know. And they have to be self motivated. And
they actually just became self motivated in the last few years.
And I think it's to do with role modeling. If
they see someone do it like if they see a
friend get up on stage, that makes them feel like
they can do it. So yeah, there's a bit of
a scene of kids making bands at their schools and it's.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Cool, brilliant. So you're coming to christ Church doing the
show at the Isaac Theater Royal. What are we going
to see in that concept? What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
A lot of a new album and a lot of
the old songs and you know, my band's really gray,
and you know, I'm excited to play a christ Church.
I'm excited to play these new songs because people, Yeah,
I haven't brought anything new in a long time, so
it's going to be cool.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
It must be amazing though, like you know, the new
stuff's brilliant and everything else in between is brilliant, but
it must be amazing amazing when you get the reaction
you do to sign was like Sway, I mean, just
start playing it and the place might swoon.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
I mean, it's cool.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Sway found a life of its own and there's been
a lot of big covers of it. There was a
really big artist called Beaver Doobe covered it, and Amy
Sharp with Rehab. These are really big artists, the way
bigger than men so they've they've you know, they've found
the song thirty years later and it's still living its life.
It's cool, Like I never thought that would happen.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Do you see Push Pusher back?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I love Push Push?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I remember Push Push Mike, you have a nice guy.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
They're on the TV the other night and it's all go.
Is that? Is that another sort of mesh up? You're
going to do? Genre crossing? Hey, it's very nice to
talk to you. We are looking forward to seeing it
and all of the very best with the tour. You've
got more songs in the head? Is there another going
(12:00):
to wait another fifteen years or not?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
No? I don't think I don't have another fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
So yeah, you're so old, I'll take it easier, right,
I thank you big. It's absolutely fantastic. So March the
twenty ninth at the Isaac Theater all in christ Church
is when Bikoronga is going to be in town. I
mean it is a brilliant album that I'll give you
another little sample. This one's called Paris and the Rain.
(12:56):
So I quite like the fact they went. They went
there to do some stuff, took some recording gear with
them and ended up recording a lot of the album
in Paris and that is one of the tracks Paris
in the Rhine, so drop that down but longer live
in christ Church, Isaac Theatre, Royal are much Sweet night,
very nice to talk.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
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