The temporary seats are up at One New Zealand Stadium ahead of the first All Blacks test, and Venues Otautahi CEO Caroline Harvie-Teare joined Canterbury Mornings to hear about the excitement brewing for tomorrow night.
She was asked about the fee that Christchurch paid to lock in the test under the roof, and why those on the temporary stands can only use the stadium bathrooms until 6pm on the night.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Canterbury Mornings podcast with John McDonald
from News Talk ZEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Thanks Claire twenty three to eleven News Talks EDB Caatebory
Mornings at See one Espresso in the center of town
and nicking the team not only looking after us lendidly,
but looking after the dozens and dozens and dozens of
people who were here, including stadium boss Caroline Harvey Tear
from Venez Auto Tahi, good morning, Good morning man. We
were saying we should wear these headphones all the time
(00:33):
at restaurants because then you can actually hear each other talk.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
It's a great idea, so loud here's brilliant though an't Yeah, yeah,
I feel like I'm on a helicopter.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Big, big weekend a head So it's the first you got,
the first time we'll seeing the All Blacks at One
New Zealand Stadium. How are you feeling about it?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Oh, we're excited. Obviously we've had seventy days of milestone
after milestone after milestone, but we've really been waiting for
the All Blacks. Christ Church hasn't seen a lot of
the All Blacks in the last three whiles, so I
think it's been about four years, fourteen hundred and something days,
so we're pumped absolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
So reported today, but you had to pay an incentive
fee to get the all Blacks here? Why was that?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, look, it's normal. It's a competitive process. But what
we do is we've got a business to run. We
want to deliver commercial outcomes, but we also want to
deliver economic outcomes. And so the investment in getting the
All Blacks here is going to deliver about eight million
and estimated economic benefit from visitation alone. So what we've
invested in getting them here is well and truly giving
(01:32):
a return to the city.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
So that's an eight million return on what investment.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I'm not going to tell you that number, but what
I can say is it certainly not what's been reported.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
What's been reported, oh.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
In the order of eight to one point two million,
So that is not accurate by any stretch.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
But we know somewhere in between. Nope, so it's less
than eight hundred thousand.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, it's certainly nowhere in the realm about half a million.
I'm not going to tell you the actual numbers, but
they are certainly not accurate, and the return is significant
to the city and also We've used our own operating
profits to to fund our incentive.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
So there's no call on the ratepayer for this, right, okay, So,
and that will continue in the future. All events you
expect to pay a fee to get them here.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
No, it's not all events. No, no, there's only some
events that require an incentive that All Blacks are one
of those. Major international content is another in terms of entertainment. Look,
it's a very very competitive landscape and we have to
play our role in that. We want the city to
be successful, we want the stadium to be successful.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
So are the All Blacks one who's get in rugby
the only domestic entity or organization that requires this?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
No, No, not necessarily. But there's a different commercial model
for many of those events that we bring in.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Super Rugby, the Super Rugby Round required it.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
The Super Round there was an investment from the city,
not from venues auto take, but there was definitely a
city investment in that returned again thirteen point one million
for the city. So these investments are well worth it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I thought that quite even quite recently, you've been somewhat
skeptical or critical of these these types of payments. Have
you have you changed your.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
View no, I've never been skeptical of them. Look, it's
it's a it's a it's a landscape that hasn't changed
in years. Yes, there are different commercial models, Yes there
are different ways to cut it. But we are in
a very very competitive market and we also know that
when entertainment and other events come to New Zealand, we're
the most expensive place to get to, to move around
(03:35):
and to employ, and so to make our country and
our city competitive in a global landscape, we have to
make those investments right.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Just to be clear, I'm a realist and accept that
this is how it operates these days. But I'm interested
to know if the incentive hadn't been paid, would the
All Blacks not be here this weekend?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
No, they wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
They wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
No. I mean, obviously New Zealand Rugby are committed to
christ Church, but we have to put our best commercial
foot forward. They're all Blacks, the New Zealand Rugby are
a commercial entity as well. So there's two things to consider,
one of the commercial outcomes and one of the city
benefit outcomes, and all of those things are delivering a
material return for that investment.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
But New Zealand Rugby made it clear that they wouldn't
becoming if there was no money paid.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
No, And we never had a discussion as to whether
we wouldn't put an offer forward because we were always
going to because we want to see all black rugby here,
as do New Zealand rugby, So there's never been an
ultimatum otherwise.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Right, were you in competition with forsythe Bar stadium in
this regard.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I don't know which stadium's bid for content, but I
assume that the major stadium's bid for content so Eden Park,
Henry Stadium obviously one New Zealand stadium and Forsyth Bar
wouldn't obviously be in the mix, but I can't quantify that.
So I'm not New Zealand rugby.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So you've got a national sport and therefore sitting expecting
or taking bids from venues around the country, and they
picked the best ones.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
There are men many lines, I'm sure, to the criteria
that they assess as to which stadium they choose, and
it won't just be commercial, it'll be social. And there's
not much content to go around this year obviously, when
you think about how the landscapes change a little with
the South africatur. We've also got the Rugby World Cup
coming up, so there's a little bit less content to
(05:26):
go around in New Zealand. But I'm sure that New
Zealand Rugby and I can't talk for them, consider more
than just the commercials. They'll consider the city itself, the
infrastructures to support people coming in to watch their games.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
But yeah, all right, there's been a bit of talk
since the big concert about the porterloos and things outside.
You're putting in the extra seats for the test match
tomorrow night. What is that going to mean for people
accessing the toilets inside the venue?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah, so we've got an extra five thousand people in
for the or Black so that'll be using the new
temporary stand up until about six o'clock. Those guests will
be able to access the internal facilities, including food and
beverage and toilets, but after that they will be using
what we've created a night market outside, which does have
temporary facilities, so including food and beverage. We've got a
(06:18):
DJ out there and we've also.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Got toilets out there. Right, So I'm going to be
in the extra five thousand seats, so that means for
four sex, I can use the toilets after sex, I
need to use a port loop yep, all right, and
that's going to be how it's going to be from
here on in.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Look, the building is designed for twenty five thousand people,
so it was always the expectation that we would need
external overlay for concerts and poor when we've got the
temper stand in there, that's always the expectation. Our job
is to actually make sure that their external overlay is
as close as it can be to what you're getting inside. Now,
port loo's are always going to be a compromise. I
(06:54):
get that, and we're working on whether we can get
more and more posh, loose and all those things. But
at the end of the day, we do have to
have this. Our job is to do the best we
can buy.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
That well go, well, well, I'm just tomorrow night. You're
working right now, and thanks for coming in today, all right.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Carolin Habytia from Venues Autoitahi.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
For more from Caterbory Mornings with John McDonald, listen live
to news talks at be Christ Church from nine am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Canterbury Mornings podcast with John McDonald
from News Talk ZEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Thanks Claire twenty three to eleven News Talks EDB Caatebory
Mornings at See one Espresso in the center of town
and nicking the team not only looking after us lendidly,
but looking after the dozens and dozens and dozens of
people who were here, including stadium boss Caroline Harvey Tear
from Venez Auto Tahi, good morning, Good morning man. We
were saying we should wear these headphones all the time
(00:33):
at restaurants because then you can actually hear each other talk.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
It's a great idea, so loud here's brilliant though an't Yeah, yeah,
I feel like I'm on a helicopter.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Big, big weekend a head So it's the first you got,
the first time we'll seeing the All Blacks at One
New Zealand Stadium. How are you feeling about it?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Oh, we're excited. Obviously we've had seventy days of milestone
after milestone after milestone, but we've really been waiting for
the All Blacks. Christ Church hasn't seen a lot of
the All Blacks in the last three whiles, so I
think it's been about four years, fourteen hundred and something days,
so we're pumped absolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
So reported today, but you had to pay an incentive
fee to get the all Blacks here? Why was that?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, look, it's normal. It's a competitive process. But what
we do is we've got a business to run. We
want to deliver commercial outcomes, but we also want to
deliver economic outcomes. And so the investment in getting the
All Blacks here is going to deliver about eight million
and estimated economic benefit from visitation alone. So what we've
invested in getting them here is well and truly giving
(01:32):
a return to the city.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
So that's an eight million return on what investment.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I'm not going to tell you that number, but what
I can say is it certainly not what's been reported.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
What's been reported, oh.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
In the order of eight to one point two million,
So that is not accurate by any stretch.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
But we know somewhere in between. Nope, so it's less
than eight hundred thousand.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, it's certainly nowhere in the realm about half a million.
I'm not going to tell you the actual numbers, but
they are certainly not accurate, and the return is significant
to the city and also We've used our own operating
profits to to fund our incentive.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
So there's no call on the ratepayer for this, right, okay, So,
and that will continue in the future. All events you
expect to pay a fee to get them here.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
No, it's not all events. No, no, there's only some
events that require an incentive that All Blacks are one
of those. Major international content is another in terms of entertainment. Look,
it's a very very competitive landscape and we have to
play our role in that. We want the city to
be successful, we want the stadium to be successful.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
So are the All Blacks one who's get in rugby
the only domestic entity or organization that requires this?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
No, No, not necessarily. But there's a different commercial model
for many of those events that we bring in.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Super Rugby, the Super Rugby Round required it.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
The Super Round there was an investment from the city,
not from venues auto take, but there was definitely a
city investment in that returned again thirteen point one million
for the city. So these investments are well worth it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I thought that quite even quite recently, you've been somewhat
skeptical or critical of these these types of payments. Have
you have you changed your.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
View no, I've never been skeptical of them. Look, it's
it's a it's a it's a landscape that hasn't changed
in years. Yes, there are different commercial models, Yes there
are different ways to cut it. But we are in
a very very competitive market and we also know that
when entertainment and other events come to New Zealand, we're
the most expensive place to get to, to move around
(03:35):
and to employ, and so to make our country and
our city competitive in a global landscape, we have to
make those investments right.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Just to be clear, I'm a realist and accept that
this is how it operates these days. But I'm interested
to know if the incentive hadn't been paid, would the
All Blacks not be here this weekend?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
No, they wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
They wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
No. I mean, obviously New Zealand Rugby are committed to
christ Church, but we have to put our best commercial
foot forward. They're all Blacks, the New Zealand Rugby are
a commercial entity as well. So there's two things to consider,
one of the commercial outcomes and one of the city
benefit outcomes, and all of those things are delivering a
material return for that investment.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
But New Zealand Rugby made it clear that they wouldn't
becoming if there was no money paid.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
No, And we never had a discussion as to whether
we wouldn't put an offer forward because we were always
going to because we want to see all black rugby here,
as do New Zealand rugby, So there's never been an
ultimatum otherwise.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Right, were you in competition with forsythe Bar stadium in
this regard.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I don't know which stadium's bid for content, but I
assume that the major stadium's bid for content so Eden Park,
Henry Stadium obviously one New Zealand stadium and Forsyth Bar
wouldn't obviously be in the mix, but I can't quantify that.
So I'm not New Zealand rugby.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So you've got a national sport and therefore sitting expecting
or taking bids from venues around the country, and they
picked the best ones.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
There are men many lines, I'm sure, to the criteria
that they assess as to which stadium they choose, and
it won't just be commercial, it'll be social. And there's
not much content to go around this year obviously, when
you think about how the landscapes change a little with
the South africatur. We've also got the Rugby World Cup
coming up, so there's a little bit less content to
(05:26):
go around in New Zealand. But I'm sure that New
Zealand Rugby and I can't talk for them, consider more
than just the commercials. They'll consider the city itself, the
infrastructures to support people coming in to watch their games.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
But yeah, all right, there's been a bit of talk
since the big concert about the porterloos and things outside.
You're putting in the extra seats for the test match
tomorrow night. What is that going to mean for people
accessing the toilets inside the venue?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah, so we've got an extra five thousand people in
for the or Black so that'll be using the new
temporary stand up until about six o'clock. Those guests will
be able to access the internal facilities, including food and
beverage and toilets, but after that they will be using
what we've created a night market outside, which does have
temporary facilities, so including food and beverage. We've got a
(06:18):
DJ out there and we've also.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Got toilets out there. Right, So I'm going to be
in the extra five thousand seats, so that means for
four sex, I can use the toilets after sex, I
need to use a port loop yep, all right, and
that's going to be how it's going to be from
here on in.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Look, the building is designed for twenty five thousand people,
so it was always the expectation that we would need
external overlay for concerts and poor when we've got the
temper stand in there, that's always the expectation. Our job
is to actually make sure that their external overlay is
as close as it can be to what you're getting inside. Now,
port loo's are always going to be a compromise. I
(06:54):
get that, and we're working on whether we can get
more and more posh, loose and all those things. But
at the end of the day, we do have to
have this. Our job is to do the best we
can buy.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
That well go, well, well, I'm just tomorrow night. You're
working right now, and thanks for coming in today, all right.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Carolin Habytia from Venues Autoitahi.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
For more from Caterbory Mornings with John McDonald, listen live
to news talks at be Christ Church from nine am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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