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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Canterbury Mornings podcast with John McDonald
from Newstalks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How you doing.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
We've got these Central City residents complaining this morning about
the number of apartments and townhouses being used as Airbnb.
So they reckon eighty percent of the homes in one
development have been used for holiday accommodation. How do you
feel about that?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I can understand where they're coming from. There has been
a lot of them built and sold or sold as Airbnb,
or had the right to use the Airbnb. We've got
to get the balance right We've got at the moment
our ordinary hospital is choker and Airbnb are filling that gap.
But it doesn't make the people that are living there saying,
(00:48):
oh we've got we've got no owners so to speak,
next door.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it goes against the whole idea
of the Council's god of having more people living living
permanently in the center of town, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
It does. But as I say, we've got to get
the balance right now. I think things will change. You
know how if there's a lot of ubers around, the
price for ubers will go down. If there are a
lot of airbnbs around. The price will go down and
people will say, oh, I'm not making any money out
of this, because I'm sure that's why they went into it,
and they'll put them on the market and sell them
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so it'll sort itself out. I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
How would you feel about the council doing what other
councils around the world have done and put a limit
on the amount of properties that can be used in
this way?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
We are doing we are looking at that.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I mean, well, you're not doing that. You're looking at
putting changes to resource consent rules and things like that,
but you're not looking at putting tell me if I'm wrong,
But you're not looking at putting a limit as has
been done in other countries.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
You're right, not a total limit. People can apply to
have their house turned, their building, dwelling turned into an airbnb,
and there's sixty days, ninety days, there's all sorts of
different things that can happen that that. I'm sure the
market will sort it out, all right.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Okay, you've got three months to come up with an
amalgamation plan to keep the go happy. Where do you
stand on the idea of christ you it's being a
super city.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Well, the first thing is I'll just I'll backtrack a
little bit. The ink is still wet on this piece
of paper that the council that the government put on us.
There is no secret at all that I would like
to see christ Which become a unitary council. But it's
whether we We've got to work with our neighbors next
door to see about how they feel. And I know
(02:34):
one of them isn't that happy about.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
It, Dan Gordon.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, So we've just got to see. We've got a
meryor Form meeting coming up in two weeks time. You
might earn diagel Barn from timrou talking on the radio
the other day and he's he's all for it. So
let's there'll be a lot of things going on.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
But you're okay, But you're in favor of a super
city and Dan Gordon at way marker Eddie isn't. I
think Lydia Glidden isn't. Lydia Gliddon at Selwyn isn't.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
But you are yeah, no, no, no, no, I'm happy.
I'm happy for you.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
It's a difference.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
What's the difference, Unitree is that you make all your
decisions and the regional council, we can in our case,
doesn't we do it all? But supersity is where you
start having one mayor over all of all of the
all of your neighbors. And we haven't got we certainly
haven't got down that far yet.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Okay, Well, I was interested in the feedback you got
on the rates forty percent in favor of rates increases
in forty one percent. Not But why isn't the count
But why isn't the council revealing what people had to
say about the council funding those four heritage projects? Why
the secrecy?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Oh so sexuacy, It's just it's just one one week problem.
The museum decided to do their own submission, which hasn't
really been that helpful. People have submitted it's good. So
now it's a lot of additional work for stuff. We're
pulling it apart and going through it to make sure
there's no duplication or anything like that. So once we
get that, that will all come out. If it had
(04:02):
all gone through the council system, and you would have
seen the council form, like you saw some people coming
and they supported this, that and the other as far
as heritage went, it would have all been done, but
the museum decided to fill out their own form. So
we're just wading away through that at the moment.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Was there any wrong with that? Were they permitted to
do that?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
No? No, they can do whatever they like, but they
just decided to do it that way. And now we've
just got to make sure that it's that it all
lines up now.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Okay, So does that mean then that you're going to
have the Art Center people and the Cathedral people saying
they want a chance to put in their own submission.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Now, is that right? No? No, no, no, no. The
museum decided that they take that course of action, which
is no problem. They can do that and that's fine,
and they provided their form and it was all filled
out by people who wanted to do it. The others
just used the normal council system, which I wished the
museum had done, but it didn't happen. So it's not
the end of the world.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Okay, you're brast off with the museum for doing it.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
No, not really. No, No, they've got there. They can
do it. But like the Art Center last time, they
really got people motivated. And yeah, there's a lot of
right there.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
What if you get the Art Center and the cathedral
people saying they want to do the same.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
No, no, no, no, we'll just go through the museum
stuff and line it all up with ours, and then
then we'll present it.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Did the museum say they were more worthy than the others?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
No? No, I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
They probably think that this thing about the solar farms.
You want to build solar farms on council land around
the place, where would that be?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Well, there's there's there's just one. There's one that comes
to my mind because I used to live down there
and I used to actually work there as the Bexley Dump.
Now all it is we can never sell that ever
a one hundred years. So all it's doing is growing
grass and feeding cattle. So we might as well put
solar on it and use that solar, in my view,
(05:56):
to power the wastewater treatment plant. That's just one one
of the areas that I'm thinking about.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Now, why can't you build there?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Oh no, no, no, it's why can't you build there? Oh?
Because it's thirty meters deep of household rubbish that was
done there for years and.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Years and years, right, So it's not at risk of
being inundated or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Oh no, no, well, the vast majority of it is very high.
As you drive up towards the South Brighton Bridge, that
land on either side of you that is the old
Bexley Dump.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
All right, I see the committee responsible for the red Zone,
the residential red Zone, has voted to look further into
selling land for housing. What's the state of the underground
infrastructure in the area. You're looking at.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
A lot of well a lot of that. It's what
we're doing is going out for an expression of interest.
The six hundred hec years of land there and only
two percent of there.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, we know, yeah, we know that, we know that, Phil.
But what's the state of the underground infrastructure.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
As far as swer and water and all that? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's it's sort of right, that nice sort I can take.
It's right there, because one hundred millimeters away from where
these things are proposed is existing houses who are already
on sewer, power and water. So it's not the end
of the world to extend that out to something. If
it's decided that that's what we'll.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Do, who would carry the cost of doing that? Would
it be the developers or the council, or who we'll.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
See what the EII comes in at because I know
this twelve heek dares as you know, they're all in
little bits all over the place. We'll see what comes
in and we might do this little tiny bit here
that might be ten homes and this little one that
might be twelve homes for a starter, to see what happens,
not wall to wall car't blanch coverage for a start.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Because mine, you know, not just infrastructure. My understanding is
that schools out that way already at capacity. What thought
have you put into the consequences of more people living
there in regards to schools for example.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
That well I know that Hiata, which is out that way,
is it's barely up to three quarters full.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Well, I can tell you about party. Our banks have
school they're they're they're chopper.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
They've had ye seeing the principle there the choker. But
if if there's more people, if there's more need, I'm
sure the Ministry will build more more classrooms.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
So it's just so so it seems the Council is
going to press on with you know, looking into this
and perhaps progressing it further without having a complete picture
of the impact it's going to have. On further resourcing
that might be needed from outfits such as the Ministry
of Education.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Is there right now? Not at all, not at all,
Wait to see what the EOI comes from.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Well yeah, but well developed developers aren't going to give
to hurs about that with their expressions of interest. So
you're saying the council has given no consideration to that.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
It is not the councilor is this what is it?
Co governance board? There's six of us, there's three from
Local Runanga and there's three from council. So we're waiting
to see what comes in. I'm sure we'll be looking
at the risks on roads or something like that, and
other services like is it a supermarket? There? Is there
(09:06):
a school? There? Is there a bus route there? All
that stuff will come into it.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
How come the it's a co governance committee.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
And co governance because it's it's half as I said,
Local Runaga, which is niter Herary Caraco is the chair
and I'm just one of the committee members.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah, but why why is that the structure?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Because that was decided how to go forward because it
was because it's got a lot ad of a corridor
is going to be unique to christ Church. If it's
done right, a lot of people will come to christ
Church to do the city decease pathway sorry city to
aid a corridor pathway and all ecological stuff that's going
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to go along alongside its people one sure are going
to come to christ Urge. So we've just got to
make sure that we make decisions get them done. Like
the other day we decided we'll get rid of an
old pump station there which had been sitting there for
far too long. Being its decisions made, it's gone.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
That's that's fine field. But the person that to this,
we think, why do you have three representing the rue
Nunger and then three from the council.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Why that that's because it's co governance for that area.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, but why though?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
That's what the council decided and that's how we worked
in to get it to get it done.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Was it a requirement of any Is there a legislation
that requires that or is it? Tell me more explain.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I'm not sure about it. I'm not sure about this
if this legislation, But I know that we said that
we'd work in with the local rue Nuer and they
were keen and so there was three from us and
three from them and the first meeting, if it continues
like that, is went very very well and we'll get
things done and get on with it.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Right. So it's it's a person from the run Nugger
rue Nunger who was actually chairing the committee.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yes, we decided, we decided that that we had vote
and we decided who was the chair was and it
turned out to be Knok and that's fine and he
did a bloody great job. If you asked me chairing
the meeting and Victoria is the deputy chair, do.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
You think there could be anyone could be hearing about
this and see issues with the democratic process being worked
around because there are only what three elected members on
the committee?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Is there?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Right?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah? But no, not at all all. There is a
a a bit of noise out there from local stand
there's no local input. They can come along and sit
it's a public meeting. They can sit there. They get
deputations and do whatever they see fit and we will
listen to them and we will make a decision and
get on with it. Because, if you want minus opinion,
(11:43):
it was floundering and it needed to be grabbed by
the throat and let's take it to the next level.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Well was the involvement of the ruling. It was that
to deal or to solve the floundering issue.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
No, no, No, Runinga were in there early on, right,
but it was it was sort of it was sort
of going round in circles. So it was decided that
we would say, right, let's grab this by the throat
and let's sit down, get on with and make decisions. Right.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
So, the people who have been working on the area
and promoting it and doing work in the area, they're
not good enough to be representative or have a representative
on the committee.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
No, it was decided that there'd be three people from
council and three people from run Anger.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
All right, Phil, Hey, we we'll catch up. Is there
a bit of you said, there's a bit of noise
out there, so you're expecting a bit of pushback.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Oh no, I know that. There was a number of
people at the public meeting that we had and they
said and listen. Then I'm sure they were happy or
not happy. That's what it is, and we're getting on.
What we're doing is we're making decisions, getting things done,
and then it will be handed to the community to
either run what's put in there. Or whatever. We've just
got to get it finished.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
All right, Phil, We'll catch up at a fortnite.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Have a good day going then see you bye.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
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