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August 9, 2026 34 mins

On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast Monday the 10th of August 2026, National's re-stated its 'Budget responsibility rules', independent tax expert Geof Nightingale shares his thoughts.

Business Correspondent Vicky Pryce has the latest on UK and EU PMI seeing a rebound in services, German production cuts having wider repercussions for growth across Europe and Labour considering a delay in the UK net zero target.

St John's 111 service has broken its daily call record three times in the past week, Mark Quin, Ambulance Association National Secretary Mark Quin tells Ryan why there has been so much demand.

Plus, UK/Europe Correspondent Gavin Grey has the latest on Spain imposing border controls on all air and sea travel from Italy and the Conservatives, say they will end the provision of social housing for foreign nationals in England if they win the next election. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
early edition with Spunk for business technology that keeps business moving,
news talks.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
There'd be a very good morning. Six after five. We
will look at the Nets and the Texas this morning
Gabons and the UK. For US, Vicky Price does the
business and calling one one one. What's actually happening with
our paramedics. We'll ask that question this morning too. The
agenda of August No surprises Ntuna, who doesn't like Trump's
Garza plan. He's not going to pull out until Hermas

(00:32):
is fully disarmed.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
That means a.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Heavy weaponry, less heavy weaponry and smaller arms, all weaponry.
We're talking about a true dismantling, not fictitious dismantling. We're
now speaking with the Americans about this subject. They have ideas,
some of them are acceptable to us and some are unacceptable.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
And from Dubai to Dublin an irishman, Daniel Kinahan's his name.
You may not have heard of him, but he's the
ring leader of the Family Gang. He's been a red
one of apparently the most dangerous cartels in the world,
this Irish cartel. So he's currently on a jet from
Dubai where he was arrested to Dublin to face prosecutors.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
So I want to be very strong tribute to on
Guardess Hicona, to the Guarded Commissioner and the Minister of Justice.
Success of Minister Justice in terms of the Guardi's success
and tackling organized crime in a very effective way, and
that is evidence of the last number of years in
terms of a number of convictions that are secured in

(01:30):
the general Ganglaan crime area.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Right too, Infantino updates and there've been a couple you
might have seen over the weekend, the story about when
he was the boss of UEFA. They use some of
the money that should have been used for football to
pay off a former lover. He apparently promoted this woman
who worked at yueper from a secretary into a management
role and then they paid for a degree for her

(01:55):
to go and study afterwards. This is while he was married.
He denies the claims there is.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
A concerted and ongoing effort by some to undermine FIFA
and its president, and says recent reporting has included unsubstantiated
assertions and demonstrably false claims.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition with Ryan Bridge and Spark for business technology that
keeps business moving news talks.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
It'd be eight minutes halfter five nine to ninety two
is the number to text. This is from Grant. Good
morning Ryan. I'm in London and listening in at the moment.
Has the election period already started? It seems the unions
are in full campaign mode. No, the election period, Well,
no it hasn't officially. I mean the House hasn't risen yet.
That'll happen soon. But they're in recess this week, politicians,

(02:48):
so we'll probably hear a lot from them. They'll be
on the camp they'll be on the hustings, and we'll
be hearing a lot about the budget responsibility rules, which
National had already announced. So what's actually changed that just
before six this morning. But onto the paramedics. I was
looking at the press conference yesterday, watching the press conference
of Saint John about the paramedics and the ambulance staff.

(03:09):
And it's a bit confusing because they say last week
we hit the record three times for the number of
calls one one one calls that they were having to
deal with that part fine, I mean it was cold
last week. They did mention the fact it was freezing
cold last week, so that might have led to more calls.
But also one of the things that they mentioned was
just nutjobs and whack jobs and people who are overdosing

(03:34):
calling one one one and then your Saint John ambulance
staff are having to go and deal with these people
and they he made it. The boss made an interesting comment.
He said that we are now telling our staff that
they don't have to engage if they you know, normally
you think of a doctor and they going to a
hospital and there's some nutbar who's abusing people and punching nurses,

(03:59):
and you think, why do you help them? Just leave them?
You know, you've got to have some decorum. But then
they are nice people and they care about people, and
that's the sort of oath. The paramedics have been told
if someone is aggressive, as someone is violent, you don't
have to help them. And I think that's a good thing.
And Jesus, a lot of nut bars out there at
the moment. Have you been walking around. I don't know

(04:20):
what it's like where you are, but around Auckland there's
some day trippers around and there was a stabbing on
Friday by the Skytown. There was a stamming on K
Road at the weekend. I was reading about yesterday a
friend of mine actually my barber, said he got jumped
in the city by three guys and went to the
police and told the police and everything and reported it

(04:41):
and they said, oh, this sort of thing does actually
happen more often than you think. Another friend just last
week on K Road at nine thirty am was told
they were going to get stabbed by some crazy person.
You know, just crazy people out there. So I think
it's a good thing that the ambulance staff being told
you can walk away, you know. And the move on orders.

(05:04):
People say the move on orders will solve this. They're
not going to solve the problem. They'll just move it on,
won't they. So I don't know what you do. I
don't know what you do with people who are so
out of it that you really can't reason with them.
And then the minute they get a knife or a
pair of scissors in their hands, Lord help us. Eleven
after five.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Ryan Bridge.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
We will do the business with Vicky Price shortly. And
I'm quite interested in this that over in the UK
they have the same sort of goals that we do
about net zero twenty fifty all that stuff labor. The
new leader and his new energy secretary are saying, well,
maybe we don't need to do it, maybe we can

(05:45):
delay it. Vicky Price says that for US shortly, News
Talks the B.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
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Speaker 2 (06:05):
News TALKSB fourteen minutes, half to five on your Monday morning.
We had some data out of the US on Friday
to catch you up on US non farm payrolls. This
is jobs. They went backwards in July and they were
expected to add eighty thousand jobs. Actually they were down
twenty three thousand. That was the headline number. Worst July
result in least a decade. At the same time, you've
got inflation or expectations of inflation going up to one

(06:29):
year edging ahead from three point six to three point
seven percent from June. And all of that makes a
very messy picture for WASH and for the feed. Will
they cut, will they hold, will they raise? When it
comes to their September decision. Markets currently pricing in half
a chance of a twenty five basis point cut Ryan

(06:51):
Bridge Pike rather news talks B It is just gone
quarter past five. Saint John's one on one service has
broken its daily call record three times in the last week.
Saturday they had two five hundred and sixty two calls.
The normal average is nineteen hundred.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
We're declaring a major incident.

Speaker 6 (07:08):
This is related to winter, seasonal illness, influenza.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Respiratory illness.

Speaker 7 (07:14):
These are the things that drive our demand.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Mark quinn is Ambulance Association National secretary with me this morning. Mark,
good morning, Good morning. So people are calling in because
they've got colds or it was something more serious. What
is driving it?

Speaker 8 (07:32):
Oh, it's across the board. Obviously the winter stat particularly
last week, has driven another amount of winter illnesses to
get to this point. But it is across the board,
plus increasing medical calls on top of any accidents.

Speaker 9 (07:50):
But yeah, there is, it's right across the board.

Speaker 8 (07:52):
But yes, certainly the winter illnesses and flows haven't have
also significantly contributed to the increasing calls.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
And Mark, is there any you know, what percentage of
the callers you get to actually need an ambulance. Is
there an increase in those or is it genuine illness.

Speaker 9 (08:09):
Well the data suggests has been overseas, and then you're
yelling and showing that you know, the lowercurity calls are
sitting around eighty percent, maybe a little bit higher at times,
and obviously there's an increase in the callouts again coming
in winter with the flues, but it's in saying that

(08:31):
mixed up in there there's quite significant serious medical presentations.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
So eighty percent you're saying, are probably not requiring an ambulance.

Speaker 9 (08:41):
Well, yeah, This is the hard part is that the
pro QA system that is used to triarge the cause
as they come in, and that uses common words like
shortness of breath and chest pain, So that can relate to.

Speaker 8 (08:55):
Anything from a chest infection as you can imagine, because
people will experience those right through to having a genuine
heart attack for instance. So that when the call goes
comes in and triage to that system obviously responds under
a red would probably likely put it under a red call,
and that would determine the response to the endminths.

Speaker 9 (09:19):
Which would be under lights and sirens. So this is
the trouble with the trioges is not to downplay people's
illnesses or need for an amblance, but certainly there is
a need for there is.

Speaker 8 (09:35):
Other pathways to address, but those pathways have been overloaded
as well as well been well documented.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
What about violent people, you know, when the paramedics turn up.
I was listening to Saint John yesterday. They said they've
been told if someone is violent or someone is agitated,
you don't actually have to treat them. That happening a lot.

Speaker 8 (09:55):
Well, that's been well documented over a number of years,
and there has increased, certainly at the scenes and then
being presented will being a threatened even verbally or physically
with violence, and that's been occurring anyway on top of it,
and I suppose that the delay and ambulances which has
a curred, particularly believe in the last forty eight hours,

(10:18):
that only increases the frustration.

Speaker 9 (10:20):
So you can imagine that well, a lot appropriate people are.

Speaker 8 (10:24):
Voicing their you know, how they're feeling about the significant
delay and getting an amblance to them.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
All right, got here, Mark, appreciate your time this morning.
Thank you, Mark Quinn, Ambulance Association National Secretary. Time is
eighteen after five. Vicky Price next the Early.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
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Speaker 2 (10:54):
News Talks their b UK and EU PM. I will
welcome rebound for them and services plus over all. In
July it's got a Vicky Price our UK our Business
correspondent and the UK Vicky Nice to heavy on the program.
Those results welcome.

Speaker 10 (11:09):
No, absolutely, you've seen that in the UK, where interestingly enough,
the services sector has rebounded after a few months of
really not doing very much at all because consumer confidence
was so down. But of course we've had good weather.
People have gone out a lot and that may have
influenced it, and of course at the same time there've
been real concerns about the heat waves. But the interesting

(11:30):
thing is that also Europe, the Eurozone in particular, which
has seen sort of both manufacturing output going up sort
of gently, but also services coming up. They're not doing great,
but at least there is a bit of a rebound
and I think that's good news.

Speaker 7 (11:45):
Having said that.

Speaker 10 (11:46):
There is quite a lot of concern about what happens
in Germany. The calm sector is very negatively effective for
all sorts of reasons, and there is a real worry
for the rest of Europe that are slowing down of
growth and demand from particular sectors in Germany is affecting
everyone else because there are so integrated in the supply chain.

(12:09):
So that's a bit of a worry looking ahead, but
for the moment things look a little bit better. Inflation
and expectations have also lowered, so having said that, we
probably can't see an interest rate increase next time with
the European Central Bank meets, but only a small one,
so fingers crossed.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
What about in the UK and Burnham and the twenty
to fifty zero target that they've got, they're looking at
delaying that a bit.

Speaker 10 (12:35):
No absolutely, what the new Energy Secretary in other words,
the minister in charge of the Energy department in the
UK is saying is that the worry that they're having
in the cabinet now it's not different really to the
previous prime ministers of Kistama, is the cost of living

(12:56):
crisis that everyone has been going through, and there is
no doubt that energy costs have been identified as a
major problem that households face. So what they're looking at
is maybe easing some of the restrictions that were out
there or other some of the targets, particularly in the
car sector, where they were talking about a very small

(13:17):
percentage of new cars you know, being powered by fossil
fuels in other words, combastion engines as we know them,
with a very substantial increase expected in EV's electric vehicles
being sold, with various deadlines being set. But the issue
now is should those deadlines be moved up a bit?

(13:41):
The new Secretary of Energy saying maybe by one or
two years, but there is quite a bit of uncertainty
around and businesses would like a little bit more certainty
to know what they invest in. That's number one. The
second one is what we use for electricity. The plan
had been under the previous administration that by twenty thirty,
so really in just very few years time, ninety five

(14:04):
percent of all the sort of energy, the electricity anyway
being used was going to be powered by renewables. Well,
at present we're at fifty five percent. The chances of
getting to ninety five percent unless we do some major
investment and then charge households a lot. But to do that,
you know, they're not very great and as I think
they might ease that as well. So basically they're becoming

(14:26):
a little bit more in touch with reality, which is.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Always a good thing. That is business corresponding Vicky Price
time is twenty four minutes halfter five going in the
UK for a second, So you're soon going to be
able to go to your testo. Go down to your
local supermarket and buy an eight hundred dollars plug in
solar panel, and eight hundred dollars gets you two panels
and you can put them on your roof, You can
put them in your garden, you can put them on
the deck anywhere that gets a bit of sun. The

(14:52):
problem with them they're not a battery, so you can't
store energy. You must use it straight away. So if
it's sunny, you go and wash the dishes and put
the dish washer on, put the washing machine on. But
it has to be done straight away, and if you
don't use it. It's not like a traditional solar panel that's
professionally installed on your roof where you can sell it back.
If you're not using it, you sell it back to

(15:13):
the grid and make some money. You can't do that
with these plugin ones. There's no compensation, so basically you
need to use it or lose it. Twenty five after
five News Talks ab Time is five twenty seven. News
Talk said b Tony Randall was exactly the type of person,
the sort of brain that you wanted sitting around a
council table. Is specially given the types who now seem

(15:34):
to occupy many of the seats. It's very sad to
hear of his passing. My condolences to his family and
those in you and well for those who didn't. Tony
was a counselor in Wellington. He sat in the northern Ward.
He was the guy you would call when you wanted
to know the facts of a case, when you wanted
to know the numbers. Tony was the guy who found
just a wee mistake in the council's modeling when they

(15:57):
were lowering speed limits in the Capitol. Remember that not
a single counselor or council officer, staff member, council paid
Boffin picked up on the mistake. It was out by
two hundred and fifty million dollars. Tony did. He consistently
complained that the Council wasn't fully funding Wellington waters projects,

(16:18):
meaning the pipes weren't getting fixed. He was only there
since twenty twenty two. He was analytical and not particularly partisan.
Too often you hear of local and national politicians getting
into office who probably shouldn't be there. They have no
particular skills or background to justify it. They're elected by
a margin of a few hundred or even a few

(16:39):
dozen votes by a public that doesn't really pay close
attention to the details. As a result, you get politicians
who also don't pay attention to the details. Tony Randall
did and that's what made him special. Voters deserve more
analytical thinkers in local government who are across the facts
and the numbers, rather than tacking a box on their

(17:01):
way into Parliament. All the United Nations where you get
the sense that a lot of these guys really wish
they could be Bryan Bridge nine minutes after five News
Talks heb will head to the UK with Gavin Gray.
Next interesting that the Conservatives are going after reform the vote.
Obviously they need to with social housing. No foreigners in

(17:21):
social housing, that's the plan. Gavin has details. Next News Talks.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
B the Early edition full the show podcast on iHeartRadio,
how It By News Talks It be the News you
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(17:50):
business moving. News Talks AB, Good morning, it.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Is twenty four minutes away from six year on News
TALKSB coming up. What taxes might the net's be cooking
up for the campaign? I reckon a bid tax will
be on the list. We'll talk about that just before
six this morning. And we're in the UK with Gavin Gray.
You know the fuel excise subsidy that the government, well
the fuel excis tax cup that the government announced well
more of a subsidy fifty bucks for some families, and

(18:17):
they've basically kept extending it even though technically it should
have been scrapped already. Well, Albanesi did scrap it last week.
And this is the reason why we will probably keep
this fuel subsidy going until the election campaign because last
week Albanze scrapped it and then in a new Australian
poll out last night, they are down in their party

(18:39):
vote and in net approval rating for Albanesi. So they've
hit twenty nine percent labor in Australia and Albanesi is
now minus twenty two after they cut that fuel excise relief.
Now that number twenty nine percent is Julia Gillard level unpopular.
The coalition's primary vote over there is also at a

(19:01):
near record low of eighteen percent, although it's been there
for some time, and that is all thanks to Pauling Hanson.
In One Nation they're on twenty nine percent. So right
now Labor and One Nation equal. Since June, Labour's primary
vote is down from thirty three percent to twenty nine percent. Also,
everyone's taking a holiday at the moment. Albanize has been
on holiday. Taylor, the Nationals leader, has been on holiday

(19:25):
midwinter break. Burnham he'd only been in a job for
two or three weeks and then took two weeks off,
twenty three away from six ran bread and I suppose
you need a holiday. But right, let's go to our
reporter's color and toned in morning colorm morning.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Right.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
So homelessness is on the council's agenda there.

Speaker 11 (19:43):
Yeah, Look, they're about to put a much bigger focus
on the issue. With the number of homeless a lot
more visible in Dnedan than ever before. The Council's now
appointed to homeless outreach advisors. They called they're about to
begin work here in the community. This is new for Daneden,
but these are roles that exists in many other cities
around New Zealand. These advisors will help connect homeless people

(20:04):
with housing, healthcare, mental health and addiction services, etc. They'll
also meet with businesses, community groups, government agencies and police
in the coming weeks to identify gaps in support for them.
The Council says the exact number of homeless and darnedan
isn't known, but these new rules or these new roles
aim to prevent others from.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Ending up on the streets.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
Right.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
What about you weather. We've got a rainy morning here.

Speaker 11 (20:28):
Occasional rang clears, it clears late afternoon, sudenly dies out
the high today.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Ten cheers callum and let's go to christ Church. Jamie
Cunningham with us, Jamie, Good morning morning Ryan. Now the
snow room coming to Ham in the Springs. What's that? Well?

Speaker 12 (20:43):
Yeah, The Canterbury Tourist Hotspot is giving visitors a new
way to cool off after a soak with the country's
first snow room. It's today opening the new wellness offering,
which combines a custom made snow machine, sauna, steam room
and geothermal pools. The experience is inspired by similar ones
in Scandinavia. Where fresh powder like snow is pumped into

(21:05):
the room. Now Engineer Neil Wilson says the process has
been smooth sailing after the team first built a snowmaking
system in the workshop to see if the idea would work,
and it did, he says since then it's just been
about working how much water was needed in the snow
room and what temperature to run it at. Wilson says
it's unlike anything else on off it and completely different

(21:26):
to jumping into a plunge pol.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
So you go in the sauna to get hot, you
own the snow room to get cold, and then you
just go between the rooms.

Speaker 12 (21:33):
That's a chee yeah, like you do with a plungeball.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yep, Okay, very cool. How's your weather.

Speaker 12 (21:38):
Cloudy with occasional drizzle clearing in the afternoon SOUTHWESTERLYI is
dying out at night in a high of twelve.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Thank you, Jamie and Maxis and Wellington. Good morning, Max,
good morning. Hey. This is really sad and quite sudden.
Tony Randalls passed away.

Speaker 13 (21:52):
Yeah no, there was no there was no hint of
this coming. Passing away in hospital last night at sixty
five last night, Tony Randall an independent sitting councilor for
the Takapoo northern ward. Probably I would say one of
our few real centrists. He was a details guy, focused
on the facts and evidence, as shown by tributes coming

(22:12):
in from both signs of the political isle, Chris Bishop
calling him a lovely man, passionate about Wellington Andrew Little.
What really set him apart was his focus on substance
over rhetoric. Randal was the one who discovered a two
hundred and fifty million dollar error in council documents, for instance,
on lowering speed limits in twenty twenty three. Suddenly announced
last night Tony Randall passing away at sixty five.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah, very very said, and a very good smart man
to have on council too. How should be the max?

Speaker 13 (22:40):
Mainly fine in the capital with a southerly change this afternoon,
I have have about fourteen.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
All right, thanks mate, neighbors and Wellington morning navor, Good
morning Auckland. Rather tell us about the recycling habits of Auckland.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Is not right, No, not.

Speaker 14 (22:51):
Great at all, Just reiterating the advice that you know
ratepayers dollars going to waste because of your right, Paul,
recycling hibits so what's happened now is that the Council's
launched it's let's sort it out campaign and this is
to raise awareness again that thirty seven tons of waste
being sent to landfill from the recycling facility every year.

(23:11):
They're talking to us because we don't do it, do we?

Speaker 3 (23:14):
So?

Speaker 14 (23:14):
Richard Hill's counselor says, this amounts to about thirty percent
of recycling bin material. It includes the unclean food packaging
or non recyclables like electronics and nappies. The flipp and
nappies come back again.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
It's always the parents, isn't it. You always played the
parents anyway, you know.

Speaker 14 (23:33):
Richard Hill's is saying, look, once again, people think about
what you're throwing out. Currently, recycling waste being referred to
landfill costs about three point five million a year every year.
And also too, you're saying too that people they're not
cleaning things out like cans. You know you can.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
You've got to clean it out, clean it out. My
mum always is to tell me that with the milk
bottle you got to put some water and they're shake
it up and then yeah that's right, good, very good.
How's our weather fine?

Speaker 14 (23:59):
Apart from me. There is the morning fog.

Speaker 13 (24:00):
Sick folk in the city this morning for Auckland.

Speaker 14 (24:03):
My good.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Last week we couldn't see through the ice. This week
it's the fog, that's right.

Speaker 14 (24:08):
What's going to be next sixteen is a.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
High fantastic It is eighteen minutes away from six year.
On News Talk CB we are in the UK next
where the concerts are trying to get some ground back
against reform with a policy on social housing. We'll tell
you details next accarter to six we'll look at the
nats and what taxes they might run on the selection
In just a second. First, remember when Halen Clark tried
to run to be the head of the UN, and

(24:30):
this was in twenty sixteen. And then Gauturre's one, who
is the current Secretary General of the UN. You get
a five year term. He's had his extended by five
so therefore he's about to hit ten. Anyway, his term
up is up in December and the question now is
who will replace him? And they reckon that. Finally, the
UN could get its first female boss, a costa Rican

(24:52):
diplomat former vice president. Her name is Rebecca Grinspan. She
is currently the head of a UN Conference on Trade
and Development, and there's been a straw pole of the
Security Council. It favors here at this point, fourteen away from.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Six international correspondence with INSI eye insurance, peace of mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Let's got to Gevin gray Are UK europe correspondent given
as Spain and Italy, but of a tip for tet
on the border controls here.

Speaker 15 (25:22):
Yeah, and it's a situation that I think is going
to be worrying a lot of the senior officials within
the European Union. So among the EU there is the
Schengen Agreement, and that basically says that once you're in
the European Union, you then don't need to show your
password when you go from country to country. Now, of
course that's fine if you are a legitimate person from

(25:42):
the European Union, but of course it's also meant that
people there illegally can cross this massive continent and ended
up in countries far away from where they actually entered
the block. And in Spain we're getting this problem because
Spain has an enclave in North Africa, actually you know,
almost a little pocket at the side of Morocco. But

(26:04):
it is Spanish soil, and what we saw at the
end of last week, seventy eight thousand migrants crossed in
a matter of a couple of days into Sweat at
one of these enclaves. It is said some five to
ten percent of them have stayed, but it is being
put at slightly less than that by some people. But
that meant that some other European countries thought, are we
suddenly going to get seventy eight thousand from Morocco trying

(26:26):
to come to our country. Italy then said, right, we
are going to isolate Spain and anyone, although we don't
share a land border with them, anyone coming from Spain
is going to have their passport checked.

Speaker 7 (26:37):
We're going to exclude them from the sheng and arrangement.

Speaker 15 (26:39):
That stance was supported by other countries, Finland, Denmark, the
Czech Republic, all saying that this should be about right,
and Spain absolutely furious, saying this is not just our problem,
this is an EU problem.

Speaker 7 (26:52):
And so Spain has hit back.

Speaker 15 (26:54):
By introducing border controls on all air and sea travel
from Italy.

Speaker 7 (26:59):
Oh, We're going to wait to see where this one goes.

Speaker 15 (27:01):
But it's reaching its height here, Ryan because on social media.
It is being reported that there will be a second
mass attempt to enter the enclave in either this week
or next week, with some sites with one hundred thousand
followers advertising swimming equipment for sale.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Oh, for goodness sakes, right, let's go very quickly to
moves to try and stop exactly this from happening. And
the Conservatives now are on board with not granting any
social housing or provision of social housing tendencies to foreign nationals.
And there's quite a few actually currently occupying them.

Speaker 7 (27:37):
Yes, that's right.

Speaker 15 (27:38):
It's expected this measure can actually open up almost two
hundred and twenty eight one hundred and fifty homes. Those
homes would be opened up because the Conservatives are saying
if we get back into power again, and they lost
power about two years ago, of course, if we get
back into power again, we will end all new tenancies
for all foreign nationals, as well as current terranencies for

(28:01):
couples where neither person is either British, Irish or an
EU citizen. And they say they reckon, it'll estimate two
hundred and twenty eight thousand plus homes will be opened up.

Speaker 7 (28:12):
Why is this important?

Speaker 15 (28:13):
It's important because more and more people here in this
country say they have been on the housing waiting list
for social housing or council housing for years and years
and years, and just when they think they're getting near
the top, they discover they're moving down the list. Why
because some housing has been given they are alleging by
migrants who have only just arrived in the country. This
has made them angry, despondent and furious. And this new

(28:35):
conservative type team mirror something suggested by Reform UK just
a few weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Kevin gray Are UK your correspondent. It is a living
away from six nationals said no new Texas on working people?
What about the others? Restated it's budget responsibility rules. So
surplus by twenty eight twenty nine deep level below forty
percent of GDP, government spinning back towards thirty percent of GDP.
Here's Nichola willis it we tap more.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Than twenty percent of GDP in just under sixty years
under the previous.

Speaker 8 (29:05):
Government Labor the Greens to Party Marian Top will tell
you that they can spend more, tax more, borrow more
and then it will all work out.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
To the independent taxics. But Jeff Nightingale with me this
morning Jeff, Good morning, Good morning, Ryan. So what are
you when they say no new taxes on working people?
What do you what taxes? Do you reckon they're going
to increase?

Speaker 6 (29:24):
Yeah, it's left it open there, but didn't it. I
think the way I'd interpret that is that they're not
going to change the income tax rates, and they're not
going to change the business tax rates, small business tax rates.
So I think you know that really if they stick

(29:44):
to that, that really only leaves open things like levees
and fees and other small charges, and maybe some tweaks
to some of the rules around productibility of certain items.
But they seem to be ruling out to border tax.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, I reckon they'll go with a campaign on a
bed tax, that sort of thing. Anyway, let's talk about
the actual rules. Well, they're not even rules, aren't they
they're just guidelines and goals what they've stated because they've
stated them before and we haven't stuck to them.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
Yeah, that's right. So they're basically a restatement. Each year
when the government puts together its budget, it has to
buy law by the Public Finance Act, release a fiscal
strategy report, and these three rules that yesterday they called
them budget responsibility rules. They are already in the Fiscal
Strategy Report, despite that we haven't run a surplus since

(30:37):
twenty and nineteen. So if we've been in deficits now
for seven years and we're forecast to stay and deficits
for another three years, it'll be a decade of deficits.
Having said that, they are the right rules, and it's
good to see them recommitting to them.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
What about net core Crown dead expected to be what
almost forty six percent of GDP at the end of
this financial year, and they Treasury when they last looked
at this said fifty percent was okay, and National saying
actually needs to be under forty. Why the divergence.

Speaker 6 (31:10):
I think that the thing about debt is that by
world standards, we've got relatively low government debt to GDP.
But we shouldn't be comfortable with that because we are
a small, global exposed economy and we need a lot
of balance sheet capacity, debt capacity to respond to shops

(31:30):
and so we've used debt to respond to the prist,
to Jurith quakes, have used it to respond to COVID,
and that's good. We need to hold that capacity to
do that. But in the good years. We need to
reduce that debt so we have the capacity. So forty
seems a sensible target. Of course, you go back a
decade the target was twenty percent of GDP, so forty
percent is still a big increase.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Jeff Nightingale, independent tax expert. Good to have you on
the show, was always eight minutes away from six year
on News Talk SEB. By the way, the thirty two
six percent is where Crown expense care Crown expenses are
at the moment, and they want to get that under thirty.
It is seven to six.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Here it first Ryan Bridge on early edition with Spark
for business Technology that keeps business moving.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
News Talks that'd be Monday morning. It is five to
six and Mic is in the studio. He's with the
next Mike. Good morning, Agan, good thank you. Unusual way
to greet me. Now, good house, we can superb. Are
you going to get a snow room? Have you heard
about the sign? How much about snow rooms today? I
think they're over so what I am from my research,
your steam room is a waste of time in terms

(32:36):
of what it does for you. So so lovely though,
so yes.

Speaker 16 (32:39):
Your saunas you go to that's your gold star. Things
that can adjust your health.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Blood pressure comes down.

Speaker 16 (32:45):
Whole thing. Steam rooms a little bit of a waste
of time. But the cold plunge now, and you know
Brian Johnson, no guy wants to live forever.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, who's got a terminal ill.

Speaker 16 (32:55):
Direct So he changed his view. He was doing some
research on the saunats, so as this goes to the
snow room. So initially with a sauna, what you did
was a cold plunge. Afterwards that triggered a nerve system
that burnt fat, brown fat. He's now worked out that
it's better for you because the cells that clean you
up internally are triggered by heat. So once you trigger

(33:17):
them in a sawna you don't want to suddenly close
them down with a cold plunge.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
So you don't do it. So you just did the
sauna and then.

Speaker 16 (33:23):
You stay warm, stay warm, so hence your ice room.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
I jumped in a friend's paul at the weekend. It
was freezing cold, and then how do you feel alive?

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (33:32):
I felt great, although couldn't feel you know, the things
between your legs and didn't. But then they had an
outdoor shower, a nice hot outdoor shower.

Speaker 16 (33:41):
Can't beat it, can't beat it, and you feel alive,
don't you. That's why the Nordics and the Fins and
the Swedes have been doing it for one hundred you know,
having a sauna and a cold l No to a
snow room for make no, no to a snowroom, because
there's no point to it. I mean apart from have
you seen my snow room?

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Which is you know.

Speaker 16 (33:56):
Prime Minister this morning on the big question, the big
what's the big question?

Speaker 2 (33:59):
What are you going to text?

Speaker 16 (34:01):
I mean and I wouldn't?

Speaker 2 (34:02):
I mean bid text? Remember we had that beat on
the bid text, it'll be a text and I said
to you they would do it and you said they won't.

Speaker 16 (34:09):
Well they're not this term. But he said he'll look
at a mixed to, which means that suddenly they will or.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Maybe there's a windfall text.

Speaker 16 (34:15):
Do you reckon on the beaks? Anyway, we've got luckso win.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
We're talking stuff.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
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