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May 10, 2026 34 mins

On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast Monday 11th of May 2026, Police are admitting they just can’t compete with the money on offered across the ditch, Labour Police spokesperson Ginny Andersen.

Business Correspondent Vicky Pryce has the latest on political uncertainty in the UK likely to affect sentiment after elections, P&O ferries hits holidaymakers with Iran war fuel surcharges and British Steel set for nationalisation in the King’s speech.

Jimmy Rushton Kyiv Based Foreign Policy and Security Analyst, shares his thoughts on Putin saying the Ukraine war could be “coming to an end”.

Plus, UK/Europe Correspondent Gavin Grey shares the latest updates on the UK PM’s job on the line as it seems certain he will face a leadership election and the first passengers evacuated from a Hantavirus-stricken cruise ship docked near Spain's Canary Islands have arrived in Madrid. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
early edition with Spark for business Technology that keeps business moving,
News talks.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
They'd be good morning, Welcome to Monday six a half
the five. We've got numbers on cops crossing the Tasman
Gavins and the UK for Us on Starmer, Vicki Price
on business and how seriously do we take Putin's comments
on ending the war the agenda. It is Monday, the
eleventh of May, the first of vacuees from the Hunter
virus hit cruise ship arriving in Madrid. Passengers now in

(00:31):
strict quarantine.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
We're told all the passengers remain a symptomatic.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
The boat has arrived at six thirty am.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
The entire operation is for sending normally. Now let's go
to the UK with the Starma, drama, labour and p
Catherine West has uploaded a video over the week and
she wants some gone.

Speaker 5 (00:51):
We need someone from within the cabinet to step forward
as the leader and then we will have a new
leader of the party without having to have a leadership election.
If that cannot have and there are no leadership hopefuls
who come forward tomorrow, then Monday morning, I will put
my name forward to stand for the leader of the
Labor Party and I will be seeking the eighty one

(01:12):
names that are needed to take to the party chair
and I will begin a leadership.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Election now the Education six through Bridget Philipson. She says,
Stan is going to try and win back confidence. Is
doing a big speech tonight, our.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Tea Prime Minister will set out a fresh direction for
our country and for our party that will rise to
the scale of what we face. But we have to
be honest about the scale of what we face. I
share the impatience that people feel. You're so very frustrated
about how nearly two years on people want.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
To see law.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah. Back to Catherine Wish, she says, you're willing to
hear him out.

Speaker 6 (01:46):
I'm a fair person.

Speaker 7 (01:47):
I will hear what the Prime Minister's got to say tomorrow,
and then if I'm still dissatisfied, I will put out
my email to the Parliamentary Labor Party asking for names.
And the reason I am doing that is not for me.
It's for working people.

Speaker 6 (02:01):
Now.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
The only names you really need to know about at
ed Middleerband, we're streeting and Angela rained to a lesser extent. Then,
of course King of the North Burnhamul talked to you
about them all shortly. Finally, this morning, stars of Adolescence,
amandaland and last One Laughing have gathered at the Royal
Festival Hall in London for the Baptis.

Speaker 8 (02:19):
Adolescents leading the way with seven nominations, six factors and
the Memorable Moment Award. We should also mention a mandaland
three of its stars are up for Best Female Performance
in a Comedy. Jennifer Saunders loose and punched it if
they're done.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Meanwhile, Ellen Cumming he's never going to host the Baptors
again after BBC at a racist slur, Blame bad leadership
for it.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan
Bridge and Spark for Business Technology that keeps business moving
News talks that'd.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Be nine two is the number of Texas gone nine
minutes after five. Love to hear from you this Monday morning.
So it's going to be a busy couple of days
for Starma. We're streeting as his Health sex three forty
three years old. This is the guy that they talk
about being the new leader Health secretary forty three years old.
He's a career politician. He's one of those guys that
joined a borough council and then he went on to

(03:12):
national politics and now he's got the health job. Is
he the sort of candidate that's going to turn Labour's
fortunes around. I highly doubt that, but anyway, he's one
that will potentially have his name in the ring. And
then there's the fact that they lost all that support
to the Greens. I mean, let alone reform, but the

(03:32):
Greens as well, led by a guy who was a
hypnotist reckon. He could hypnotize your breast to be bigger,
was allegedly what the leader of the Green Party in
the UK used to do for a job, I mean
honestly anyway, So they've got problems. Problems are plenty, and
you need eighty supporters amongst the MPs to have a vote,

(03:52):
which will probably happen in the next few days. You'd
have to imagine. Also at the weekend we heard from
Putin and he said in his speech they did their
big Victory Day, which they do to mark the end
of the defeat of Nazi Germany the end of World
War II, but missing a few tanks this year, things
weren't looking. You know, it was a little thin on
the ground for a victory military parade, and Persian then

(04:16):
came out and said, I think the matter, in referring
to Ukraine, I think the matter is coming to an end. Okay, well,
how seriously do you take that? Minutes later we had
a Kremlin aid come out and say, well, we're hang on,
hang on, it's going to take It's a complex piece
of work. We first need to reach a peace agreement
and it is a quote very long road with many

(04:39):
complicated details, but a sign that things are changing potentially.
We'll talk about that next. News Talks Hebb.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Bryan Bridge on early edition with Spark for Business technology
that keeps business moving.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
News talksb News Talks Herb. It's thirteen minutes after five,
so Putin says Ukraine the war could be coming to
an end, but only after once a lasting peace deal
he has been done, which could take some time. Jimmy
Rushdan's a foreign policy security analyst in Kievan, joins us
this morning. Jimmy, nice to have you on the program.
How seriously do we take that? Those comments?

Speaker 9 (05:16):
I don't think we can take them seriously at all.
To be honest, if you look at what Putin was saying.
He went on to say that he preferred to have
negotiations with Europe, but only if Gear Schroeder, who's a
key ally of his from Germany, would represent Europe. And
that's kind of fastercre Really, it would be like, for example,

(05:36):
Adolf Hitler having negotiations with Britain but having mostly as
the negotiator representing the United Kingdoms.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
It's not serious.

Speaker 9 (05:45):
And Putin's aide Ushakov said that they would only begin
negotiations if Ukraine withdraw from the Zombas, which is the
region of Ukraine, what parts of the region of Ukraine
the Russia claims.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
So this is not serious.

Speaker 9 (05:58):
This is just Putin again, you know, trying to make
these claims about the end of the war to probably
to bookate the domestic Russian audience. Who is to be honest,
they're getting kind of tired of the war, the restrictions
on the internet, the flagging economy.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, and what about the Americans. I mean, they make
a point. One of his aides did saying that the
Americans clearly want this thing over with quickly, but we
are actually in no hurry.

Speaker 9 (06:24):
I don't think, to be honest, that the American attention
is mainly on Iran at the moment, and there have
been some noises Trump was talking about that they're going
to take over Cuba next, which is yeah, kind of strange,
But I think America would like this war to end, obviously,
but they're not willing to impose the consequences on Eva,
Russia or Ukraine that would force either side to come

(06:47):
to the negotiating table, because fundamentally, both sides don't believe
that there's more to gain in the negotiating room than
there is on the battlefield. At the moment, Ukraine's deep
stroke program is in very effect if and it's invicting
severe damage on Russia, and Russia still believes that it
can advance at a very slow pace on the battlefield,
taking enormous losses but still gaining territory. So at the moment,

(07:10):
it doesn't seem to be any real need when you're
looking at it from both Kievan and Moscow to come
to the table.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
No tanks or missiles and ridsqu quite symbolic, very symbolic.

Speaker 9 (07:24):
Also the fact that it was on a twenty minute
delay and that Russia had to go to the Americans
to beg them to get Ukraine to agree to a cease.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Fire to hold their parade in peace.

Speaker 9 (07:36):
I mean, it's if you told Russians that the start
of this special militure operation, as Putin likes to call it,
that in four years time, not only would they not
have won, but they'd have to be begging the Americans to
stop Ukrainians from drone striking their victory Day parade. I mean,
it's fascical. They wouldn't have believed that this was possible,
but here we are, and I think it really shows

(07:56):
that the kind of balance of power in the relative
long range strike campaigns that the Ukrainian during campaign, the
long lean stroke campaign is more factor than the Russian
campaign at this point.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Fascinating stuff. Good to you on the show this morning.
It's Jimmy Rushton with US foreign policy expert based out
of Kiev. At sixteen after five, Ray you're on news
Talks hereb Saudi Aramco, world's biggest oil company. Their profits
were up. I mean, name me an oil company that's
not doing well out of the war. Basically, profits were
up to thirty three point six billion US for the

(08:28):
first quarter. That's up twenty six percent year on year.
I think last week we told you about Shell they
were up almost almost thirty percent as well. And Sadia
a Ramco has been pumping seven million barrels of oil
a day through the East West pipeline. That's allowed them
to basically export out of the west coast of Saudi
Arabia and get around the straight up for moves which

(08:49):
has been blocked up as everybody knows. Seventeen minutes after
five News Talks hereb quite cool what happens with football
over the weekend And I mean who saw this coming? Well,
the coach certainly did. The coach that was the Canadian
in a bit of trouble over at the Olympics. We'll
get to that next.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
The News you Need this morning and the in depth
analysis Early edition with Ryan Bridge and Spark for Business
Technology that keeps Business moving.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
News Talk ZB five nineteen. The Wellington Phoenix women through
to their first ever A League Grand Final after a
very dramatic to Neil went over Brisbane at the weekend,
making the Phoenix the first New Zealand football team to
reach an Australian Grand Final.

Speaker 8 (09:34):
Haitland Williams calls it history made for Wellington Phoenix they
advanced to an A Leagues.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
Grand Final for the very first time.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, I'm just so happy.

Speaker 6 (09:45):
It's hard to explain that we've had such a hard
season this year and we've just been trying so hard.

Speaker 10 (09:51):
The girls have been amazing.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
It's been amazing. I feel like we deserve this, very
well deserved and very cool to see. Time is twenty
after five. Go to our business correspondent Vicky Price Vicky
Nice TV on the show this morning, Good Morning, tell
us about the political uncertainty over in the UK. What's
it doing the sentiment there.

Speaker 6 (10:12):
Well, we've had the local elections which showed that the
ruling Labor government has lost quite significantly in terms of
the number of local seats that it has in the
various councils. And also there was voting for the Scottish
Parliament and for the Welsh Assembly and there as well
labored it very badly, in fact lost Wales completely to

(10:35):
a more nationalist party in Wales. So what we've got
right now is a lot of soul searching and of
course the markets are going to be looking at this
from a business confidence perspective. There is probably going to
be quite a lot of change in terms of the
direction of government, and I think the capital markets would
be watching to see whether there is any move towards

(10:56):
the left, in other words, maybe more spending. Sort of
the well very formed that perhaps is going to happen
isn't going to be happening. So yields are going to
stay high. In terms of bonds, it means interest rates
generally staying higher. So there is a huge amount to
sort of wait and see how things develop and therefore
making up your mind as to where the economy may

(11:17):
be going.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
What about if you are looking to get away from
it all and go on holiday. P and O theories
have hit the holiday makers with a bit of a
search chart.

Speaker 6 (11:27):
Well absolutely, I think underlying everything that happened in the UK,
we've had the sort of cost of living which has
been an issue, and of course now what is beginning
to happen is we see that exemplified not just in
terms of maybe food price is beginning to go up
and people worrying about interest rates, but also all the
search charges that are beginning to appear. Indeed, p Ando ferry,
not all ferry companies are doing in Brittany. Fairies are

(11:49):
not doing that yet, but certainly Piano is increasing the
costed charges for any transfers, so if you get to
your car, try and go across then you have to
pay more. And we're going to be seeing a little
bit more of that also in the airline sector, where
we've heard already that British Always may be about to
start doing precisely that, and I would be hugely surprised

(12:10):
if others don't do that, because of course jet fuel
is going up and costs generally are increasing for everybody.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
How likely is it do you think that British steel
is going to be nationalized?

Speaker 6 (12:21):
Oh that's a very good question in terms of you know,
how long we might take before it happens. That's the
real question. But we have the King's Speech which announces
the sessions for the next parliament, where the bills are
going to be sorry, the bills for the next session
of the current government parliament time that it has left.
So we've got this session starting sort of in a

(12:43):
week or so. We have the king Speech on Wednesday,
and what happens when the King's Speech is made there
are announcements in there of what the government intentions are
in a number of areas, or the bills are maybe
coming forward, So what the intention is in various areas,
and one of them is apparently going to be We're
not absolutely certain that this will be the case, but
it's been rumored for a while that would you still

(13:05):
be nationalized. It's already getting huge amount of support from
the government, is owned by a Chinese company. It has
been losing one million pounds apparently a day. Well, I
mean that is to a considerable extent unsustainable. The government
has tried to do very things like put extra tariffs
on steel coming in from elsewhere, but that isn't going

(13:26):
to save the company. So it's going to be probably nationalized.
But at what's cost? That's the real question.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
And the Vicky Price business correspondent nice heavy on the
program this morning. It is twenty three minutes after five.
You're on News Talk CB. Next we'll look at the
two elections over well, one over in Australia, one over
in the UK over the weekend and what they could
mean for us.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
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Speaker 2 (13:50):
IVB News TALKSIB. It is twenty six minutes after five.
It'd be easy, I think to draw comparisons or parallels
between our up coming election and the local and federal
upsets in Australia are in the UK at the weekend,
But New Zealand is a totally different kettle of fish,
in part because, unlike the Brits and the Aussies, we
run an MMP system. The smaller parties that have traditionally

(14:14):
been overlooked, like One Nation in Australia and Reform in
the UK, are doing well because the major parties have
failed on immigration in the economy. Our system here is
designed to allow these smaller parties more say, therefore fuel
wasted votes. But most importantly, mass migration is not the
hot button political issue here that it is in the

(14:36):
UK and to a less extent Australia, where migration, particularly
a legal migration, big problem. Right the vast distance that
you have to travel to get here is basically our
saving grace, but our isolation is also a curse in
many ways. Our labor productivity, low population based, lack of competition,
and key consumer sectors thick groceries make us a relatively

(15:00):
pricey place to raise a family, which is a bit
of an issue. We're an open economy, we are heavily
reliant on international trade, so when there's a tariff war
or international shipping routes get blocked and jammed up, we
are disproportionately affected compared to our bigger economies, our friends overseas,
where they've got more domestic demand, more buying power, etc.

(15:20):
A government report looking at our undersea infrastructure cables has
come out, Power and Internet shows just how vulnerable we
are because of the distance. Ninety nine percent of our
international Internet goes under sea, and the Cook Straight Power
cable provides up to thirty percent of the North Island's electricity.

(15:40):
If the Russians, or the Chinese or somebody else tried
to cut us off, we would be in big trouble,
and our isolation makes replacing these things more difficult than
other countries. A quarantine or a blockade of Taiwan would
be the worst case scenario for our trade flows, and
as we've been talking about for years now, could happen
anytime from twenty twenty seven onwards. Our isolation protects us

(16:05):
from the threats faced by the UK, America and to
a lesser extent than Aussies, but exposes unique ones that
we should be king to guard against. Bryan Bridge he
be coming up twenty nine minutes halfter five. We will
get to the UK just before quarter two this morning
and we will talk about another problem, and that is

(16:27):
our cops being siphoned over to Australia. They're quite aggressive,
according to our Police commissioner, quite aggressively targeting us here
in New Zealand. Also got some numbers on productivity that
I want to share with you. So this is Stats
Department published twenty third of April, so they're a little old,
but there was a really good write up by guy
called Keith Woodford who has written for Interest dot co

(16:50):
dot n Z. Over the last five years, labor productivity
here has increased one percent. Capital productivity during this period down,
multi factor product activity down and you look at the
particular industries, so good news if you're a farmer. That's
gone way out. Anything to do with manufacturing is backwards

(17:12):
over the last ten years. So we have a bit
of a problem there. We lack a competitive advantage. You
add in the price of actually getting electricity to your factory,
things start to look a bit grimm and that regad
News talk STB back to the UK next.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Here it first Ryan Bridge on early edition with Spark
for business technology that keeps business moving.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
News Talks at Bay sum twenty four away from six
here on news Talks HEB This Monday morning we will
get to Ginny Anderson from labor On the Aussies coming
for our cops and Gavin is in the UK for us.
We talk about the Starma drama over there, Tony Alexander,
you know the economist does a really good survey. Well,
a couple of good surveys. One is of landlords and

(17:58):
the other is of listate agents. The realistate agent survey
numbers are interesting. Well, they are because they shed light
on a problem we already know about, which is property prices,
especially if you are in Auckland or in Wellington, have
either been flat or in the case of Wellington, falling
off a cliff. Now, Tony Alexander has latest survey shows

(18:19):
forty four percent of agents say prices are currently going
down in the area they work and that is the
worst result since twenty twenty two. Top three concerns for
your buyers interest rates going up, employment or lack thereof,
and falling house prices. So buyers who go I don't
want to buy a house now, because if I buy
a house now I feel like it's going to be

(18:41):
worth less in three months than it is today, which
is probably not untrue either, And a net fifty one
percent of agents said that fewer people are attending open homes.
That's the worst result again since twenty twenty two. Basically
there is loads of stock out there, rentals are relatively
inexpensive if you want to stay in one's sort of
like why would you jump? And also the prices might

(19:04):
come down in the coming month, So all sort of
reasons stacking up for people not to want to buy.
Twenty two to six red clur reporters around the country
and Callum is with us from dened and Morning Callum Morning.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Right.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
What's going on in to needing with the alcohol rules.

Speaker 11 (19:21):
Well, it's the residents turn to have their say on
the city council survey. They open an online survey as
part of their review into their local alcohol policy. It's
the second stage of a three stage process here. The
first was with key stakeholders like police and supermarkets, so
now it's the public's turn.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
This policy aims to reduce harm from alcohol while.

Speaker 11 (19:43):
Balancing the needs of business and community, and only includes
matters to do with licensing the council says a range
of possible changes are on the table here. This public
feedback period will help shape the city's approach for the
next six years.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
All right, how's your weather clear? To find this morning?
A strong cells to today fourteen the high nice one.
Thank you, Claire in christ It's morning, Claire morning. Thousands
more homes coming to the outskirts of the city.

Speaker 12 (20:10):
Yeah, look, this is yet another big development for Rolliston.
The first sections are being sold for this new three
hundred hectare West Haven development. Now this will bring four
and a half thousand homes. We know that it will
be one of the largest subdivisions we have in South Island,
much larger than the likes of Pegasus in North Canterbury
for example. There are obviously already concerns about the infrastructure

(20:32):
in the fastest growing district of Selwyn and these big
development sort of further that. But the director Tim Carter
says more than one hundred million dollars will be going
towards a council for the infrastructure. He says the developers
also planning to build their own retail and commercial centers,
as well as sewer and pump systems, and is working
with the Ministry of Education in order to help meet

(20:54):
school demands that the subdivision will create. So Carter says
there's been massive demand from builders already and hopefully this
will further support housing affordability in.

Speaker 13 (21:03):
The area of Selwyn.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Great. How's your weather.

Speaker 13 (21:06):
We've got a bit of frost.

Speaker 12 (21:07):
About this morning in sheltered places. There's also some showers
but otherwise should clear. To find southwesterly strong a bit
later and a high thirteen excellently.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Thank you Max and Wellington Morning Max, Good morning. What
are these emails between the Mirror and the officials?

Speaker 14 (21:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (21:20):
Good story in the post this morning. We know there's
already been some tension between Andrew Little and those the
faceless suits who reside on the much fancied top floor
of the City Council's new Harbour Side offices. We report
a little while back on the mayor demanding the cost
of a ceremony to open the new library be slashed
from more than four hundred thousand bucks to just under

(21:40):
one hundred and eighty thousand. He said at the time
it would be ridiculous to spend four hundred bucks on
an opening ceremony, and he's doing his best to change
council thinking around money. So now you've got these emails
that have been released under request and one of these
faceless suits the council's head of Creative Capital, objecting to
the mayor's language and saying it's not fair to suggest
staff are acting inappropriately and out of control. Disagreeing with

(22:04):
the picture being presented to the public by Andrew Little
around council spending, she said staff acting under the last
council's instruction and the budget for the event had gone
through the right channels, which, of course is often the
problem with local bureaucracy. Everyone passes the buck quite literally.
Original ceremony plans included a street festival, food trucks, performances.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
And road closures. Yes me, how's your weather clearing? A
fine Southerly's eleven? Nice one? Next, thank you neighbors an
Aukland morning, neighbor, Good morning, Auckland. Council's ninety percent of
the way to achieving it, saving Scott It's.

Speaker 6 (22:37):
Right, yeah, yay.

Speaker 13 (22:38):
So the Value for Money Committee they've managed to save
seventy seven point six million dollars. This is in the
nine months to March. HEAs until June thirty to save
just over eight million more. So this has been done
by cutting costs, increasing revenue, removing all this duplication in
putting technology in place. Daisley Simpson Committee che says that

(23:01):
you know it builds on the previous big savings and
she says in the past three years they managed to
achieve two hundred two hundred million dollars in savings.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Wow, so they're on track and has anyone noticed what
was missing? How's that we the Neva don't boost.

Speaker 13 (23:15):
My bubble showers clearing this morning? Patchy rain developing tonight
seventeen the high.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Here and awkward. Fantastic, Thank you very much. It is
eighteen minutes away from six year. On News Talk SeeDB,
we are going to Vincent in the UK next and
we will talk to Ginny Anderson from Labor about the
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Speaker 1 (24:48):
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Speaker 2 (24:54):
New Chicken with Gavin Gray are UK europe correspondent for
the latest staff of those elections, dismal result for Labor
over the weekend. Gavin, what do we know about Starmer's job?

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Well, he's certainly going to be facing the music tomorrow
or Monday our time when it looks like the challenges
may begin to appear. That is because really an MP
very very unheard of in London. One of the backbench
MP's says, right, if nobody else stands for reelected for
election against Sakir Starmer, then I will. And of course

(25:26):
what they're hoping to do here is to flash out
and flush out the main big candidates, those who are
already well known within the party to take him on.
There are appeared to be three main runners in this
the Health Secretary Where Streeting, the former deputy to Sekir Starmer,
Angela Rainer, and of course Andy Burnham, who is a
mayor in Manchester, Northwest England, so he would have to

(25:49):
become an MP first, and it's thought that there are
a couple of local MPs to him who are willing
to step aside. But certainly the knives have been out
just in the last few hours now. Angela Rainer has
former assistant and the former deputy Sekires Starmer said basically
he was in the last chance saloon after that heavy
election loss, and she has backed Andy Burnham to return

(26:10):
to Westminster. No doubt they will run on a sort
of two person ticket, possibly with her being promised the
deputy job. And it's a thousand word statements she's issued,
and I have to say it's pretty excuriating of Sekir
Starmer saying you need to get your act together.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
How does in order for that to Haven Burner needs
to get back in right? How did you get back in?
What's the ticket?

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, so you know it'll probably be one of those
four MPs that we think are offering to effectively step
down as a Member Parliament. They'll probably be offered some
you know, lordship or something in the House of Lords
to go with it, and then he would simply have
to have a by election and get in. That would
take more time than many would like to see in
the labor parties. So that's why some are predicting west

(26:52):
streeting is ready to move. It's reported but not confirmed.
He has the backing of at least thirty MPs who
are willing to support him in this battle, and potentially
Angela Raina back again, very very on the left of
the party though, and that will really put the jitters
up the business community.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yeah, fascinating stuff.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
That is.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Gavin Gray are UK, you're a corresponding good TV on
the show is always twelve minutes away from six Ryan Bridge.
So police admitting that they just basically and it's not
a surprising admission given the numbers that are the eye
watering numbers that are on offer, but they just can't
compete with the money on offer across the ditch.

Speaker 16 (27:27):
It's frustrating, frankly, and I've told my police commissioner colleagues
across Australia that I would rather they didn't come to
New Zealand and poach my people.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
One hundred and forty four cops left for Australia in
the past year, and now one in three resignations is
linked to the move. Jenny Anderson, as Labour's police spokesperson,
joined US Live this morning.

Speaker 17 (27:46):
J Any, good morning, Good morning mine.

Speaker 6 (27:48):
How are you.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
I'm very well, thank you. So what are we going
to pay them more? And how much does that cost?

Speaker 14 (27:54):
Well, it looks like cost of loving is really pushing
not just can you we've the police way said for
us who want to have people staying here because they
are a family and we love them. So it's a
real loss in New Zealand to have so many one
hundred and forty four I think you said, wasn't it in.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
The past year is a lot totally and how do
you get them back?

Speaker 14 (28:15):
Well, I think these push and pull factors, these several
push factors. I mean one of the factors is the
fact that the government has failed to deliver on the
five hundred that they promised, and that just puts more
pressure on the front line. So I think we've seen
more pressure on police on the front line, less support,
whether or that support staff or it support in pull factors,
which is great pay, so pay is definitely right part

(28:38):
of effector.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Is labor promising to pay them more.

Speaker 6 (28:41):
Well.

Speaker 14 (28:42):
One thing that I think needs looking at, and I'm
prepared to take a look at that if we deform
the government, is that police currently have twenty one steps
in their pay, so wages are not only not keeping
up with inflation, but it means it takes police much
longer than any other profession to reach the top.

Speaker 8 (29:00):
Of their payscale.

Speaker 14 (29:01):
And so while police might start earning more a bit
more than the nurses or teachers. It doesn't take very long,
three or four years, and then those professions are any
more than police. So I think the fact that there
are twenty one steps in that payscale, that's a factor
that needs to be looked at.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Okay, and so you'll look at that, but it doesn't
necessarily mean you're going to pay them more, just maybe
more sooner.

Speaker 14 (29:23):
Well, what sounds like the Commission has sort of given
up on that sense. They've paid what thirty five thousand
dollars and got advertising campaign and got two people back.
But we think that it's the campaign that the Police
Association currently have in place, which is repay the risk
and acknowledging the risk that police take every day needs

(29:43):
to be remunerated. The part of that is that there's
too many steps in your payscale. The police take too
long to earn as much as similar professions in New Zealand,
and so we think that that's a good thing that
we need to take a look at to say that
you should be earning more earlier on in your career.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Interesting, what's happening overseas, isn't it over in the UK?
With performing over in Australia with one nation.

Speaker 14 (30:06):
Yes, very interesting times and again that just puts more
pressure on frontline police of situations are becoming difficult in public.
So that's another factor as well that you need to
be considering if you're going over there.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Okay, all right, Jenny, thank you, Ginny Anderson from labor.
It is nine minutes away from six.

Speaker 10 (30:23):
News Talks VB, the first word on the News of
the Day early edition with Ryan Bridge and Spark for
Business Technology that keeps Business Moving, News TALKSB, News Talks AB.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
It is six minutes away from six. A lot of
feedback coming in on Jenny Anderson and police. By the way,
did even mention the war in Iran? Well, do we
still call it a war if there's been a ceasfar
for this loan. But anyway, Iran has apparently sent its
response to the latest proposal from the US another draft
agreement for ending the war, and that is a more
substantive peace deal rather than a ceasefire. Six to six

(30:59):
Rand Mike's in the studio.

Speaker 17 (31:01):
Good morning, Mike, morning mate. Why were you fascinated by
the cops.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Well, it's it's it's mildly interesting. A thought of resignations
are now down to going to Australia.

Speaker 17 (31:11):
Yeah, but why wouldn't that be applicable to engineers, miners, teachers. Well,
I suppose every every everyone, massive brain drain on. So
why why why are cops more interesting than anybody else
going to Australia. Most people going to Australia, most people
going to Australia will doing more money in Australia, wouldn't they. Ye,
what's the average price of a house in Sydney one
point massive one point seven?

Speaker 2 (31:33):
But what's the average price on the outskirts of Brisbane
the Australia.

Speaker 17 (31:37):
The outskirts where he was going.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
You're not going to central Brisbane anymore.

Speaker 17 (31:41):
What I'm what I'm saying is that the media seems
fixated with the cops for some reason, as opposed to
any other job or any other reason that people, you know,
going to Australiable. It's the weirdest thing, isn't it. At
the end of the day.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Well, I mean, cops are quite important because smashes your
window when you kind of want I think you.

Speaker 17 (31:59):
Know what I think. I think people much to their
own tune. You know what I'm saying. People go, oh,
there's more money, or there's more sunshine, or there's more beer,
or there's whatever. People, do you know where my brother's moving?

Speaker 2 (32:08):
No Dubai now at a time like this when everyone
else is leaving.

Speaker 17 (32:13):
Do you know why he's doing it?

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Because it's good for his business money.

Speaker 17 (32:15):
And he runs his own business and he can't run
it from here. It's based in Dubai. So he's moving
to Bay. He's been to Dubai before. So he sends
me a photo over the weekend and he's sitting on
his balcony. He's got a bottle of New Zealand wine
looking at the bouge Khalifa and so I'm so, I'm going,
what are you doing there? He goes, oh, we're moving
and some things. You know, like life just continues, doesn't it.
Like you know, you make your own decisions.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
I went to buy two beers and Dubai and this
is maybe a year ago, and it was seventy six
dollars for two heinekens.

Speaker 17 (32:46):
Not good with the alcohol on that and that particular
part of the will. It's amazing, shocking, but I figure,
if my brother can move to Dubai, yeah, for us all.
Then the odd cops moving to Cerdney. He's not really
the end of the world, isn't it. No, do you
did you do the school story, the private school story?

Speaker 14 (33:02):
No?

Speaker 2 (33:02):
I didn't on that this morning.

Speaker 17 (33:05):
Increasingly we had. Last time we were involved in a
private school. I can't remember, but it was high teens,
was like eighteen nineteen thousand dollars a year and they're
now cracking thirty. Here's your next thing, here's your next
thing for your cop moving to Australia. Now at the
cracking in Australia for a private school.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Fifty fifty to fifty are you seeing if you're a
comp of New Zealand, are you sending a kid for
a private school rural period? That that and the Prime
Minister fantastic. Have a great Monday. See tomorrow for more

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