August 11, 2026 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast Wednesday the 12th of August 2026, Chris Luxon’s in Wellington for an urgent caucus meeting over speculation about his leadership, political commentator tells Ryan if it's the end of the road for him as Prime Minister.
Over half a million kiwis now in debt to the IRD, Deloitte Tax Partner Robyn Walker explains.
A new study from the University of Otago is linking vaping around newborns to a higher risk of sudden infant death, Dr Buzz Burrell General Practitioners Aotearoa Chair, shares his concerns.
Plus, UK/Europe Correspondent Gavin Grey has the latest on the UK PM telling Justice Secretary to find a way to keep two young men in prison who were found guilty of the manslaughter of a newly-married police officer and the clock ticking for one of the most bizarre UK by-elections in modern history.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
an early edition with Spark for business Technology that keeps
business moving news talks.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
They'd be good morning at.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Six half to five grade to have your company. Look.
It's a fifty to fifty call at this point on
Lux and we'll talk about it throughout the morning. Ird's
coming for your Gavin Graves in the UK. Let's get
to the agenda. The agenda this Wednesday, the twelfth of August.
So the death told us big earthquake seven point four
in Columbia. You would have seen the footage by now.
Well the death toll is now more than two hundred
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and twenty.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
All of the people that can come to help with
the clinic, please come quick. I have many people at
the ICU in hospital. We need to get them out.
All the buildings have collapsed. It is completely destroyed. All
the people that can come and help, please come quickly. Now,
many patients that need to get out.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
New president we mentioned this yesterday. The new prison just
been elected and has spoken. This is Delastralia and citizens.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
At this moment, I'm traveling to Bogata. I have ordered
to suspend all the meetings in gagements that I had
in the capital of the Republic to focus on the
natural disaster that today hits at our long suffering Colombian people.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Over in the UK, we were talking about this. Andy
Burnham comes in and he takes over the policy of
the former leader in Starma. Let's let the prisoners out
of jail. Well, he's having conniptions about that now, isn't he.
Nothing's changed.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
I came into office and started pushing on this issue,
and I have pushed every single day in office since then,
and I've never accepted that there is nothing more that
can be done. We did first exclude those charged with rape,
serious sexual offenses against children, those convicted of offenses linked
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to grooming. But I then said, but we also need
to go further.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
So perfectly unclear, and who knows what's going to happen
to the killers of those cops that kick us off
in the first place. Right Staying in the UK, people
are going nuts because a solar eclipse is going to happen.
It's going to happen tomorrow morning our time. It'll be
Europe's first total solar eclipse in thirty years.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Today, all of a sudden, people seem to have really
caught on and our phone's been running practically after hook
asking us for information about the eclipse.
Speaker 7 (02:13):
I heard about it on TikTok and it just seems
pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I'm excited about it because it doesn't really happen that often.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
So I remember being very little, were dying of Green
Sands with my parents, and I just remember like looking
over the lake and it was just amazing.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
There they've been told just don't go look at it
with the sunglasses on. You actually need certified eclipse glasses.
Speaker 8 (02:31):
The temptation on Wednesday evening will be are sure enough
ninety percent of it will be covered.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I'll be grand.
Speaker 8 (02:36):
No, you won't be grand.
Speaker 9 (02:37):
You will have a permanent imprint off the eclipse on
the back of.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Your eye and for the rest of your life that
will be in your view.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
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Speaker 3 (02:55):
It'd be all of it, grim, isn't it. Don't look
at the sun, don't look too closely at the sun.
And if you are going to I can remember being
a kid and there at school we had I don't
know if it was a partial. I think it was
a partial eclipse, and we had to wear these big
welding goggles over our faces and so we could look
directly at it. So anyway, if you're heading that way,
then just don't look directly at it. Let's go to
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what the National Party looking directly at today. And that's
just the basically leadership vote. That's all anyone cares about.
So here's the Curier pole that was leaked to the
Post last week, Luxon with a net favorability score of
minus nineteen, hipkins On minus seven, so Hipkins looking better
Peters minus sixteen, so Luxon less favorable than Peter's and
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a net favorability of for Luxen of nationally voters of
fifty percent. Now, how do you get that bad? So
there are a couple of numbers they'll be looking at,
one of which is the pole from Friday, right, this
pole that came out on Friday. And even if you
look at the trend, the polar poles has the left
block three point two percent answer forming a government. So
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why the hell do you go and turf out a
guy who is leading the party that will probably get
your party, your government re elected. Why would you do that? Well,
they point to a couple of other things, including that
net favorability rating, and they say that is key. This
is the ones who want change. That is a key
number because it tells you if we get rid of
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the leader, then the drag on the party vote disappears.
We will potentially take back some right block from acting
from New Zealand First and maybe even start to play
in the soft center as well. That's the argument that's
been made, and I guess you have to look at
it like this. If National was to elect a new leader,
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would any New Zealand First voters run to Labor? No?
Would any ACT voters run to Labor?
Speaker 10 (04:51):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Would any National voters run to Labor at this point,
given where they are polling, I don't think they will.
So the argument that being made by those people who
want change. And I've been speaking to a whole bunch
of National Party people over the last twenty four to forty,
well actually over the last two weeks, because people have
been pissed off. I'm just going to tell you, people
in the party have been really pissed off about the
(05:13):
way that the Prime ministers has been behaving and all
of those who come around and try and save them
from himself sometimes, which is not to say he's not
doing a good job in some areas, you know, getting
the right team in place, all of those things, but
they're passed off frankly. So yeah, the question then becomes,
(05:35):
if you do make a change, do you go backwards?
Do you risk the treasury benches? Because anyone who takes
that job and dives knows dives national or risks the
election of a left wing government will be crucified and
go down in the history books as the most egregious
(05:59):
slap in the face too the party that you could imagine.
So stakes are high today. Twelve after five, Bryan Bridge,
You're on News Talks c B. We'll talk about a
new study out of the University of otargets to do
with cock death and vaping.
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Speaker 3 (06:30):
News Talks it B, News Talks It B. It is
fourteen minutes after five. Martin on who has responded to
the AB's hacker with one of his own and this
is over in South Africa. Have a listen. Pretty cool,
just one man in a hacker. It is fourteen after five,
(06:53):
Bryan Bridge. You study from the University of Otago. Vaping
around newborn's potential higher risk of cop death. Baby dies
in their sleep, unexplained. That's basically what COT death is.
Maternal vaping was reported in half of the cases that
involved direct bid sharing. Dr Buzz Burrell General Practitioners Outed
achieved with me this morning, Doctor Buzz.
Speaker 11 (07:13):
Good morning, Ryan, good morning, Good to talk to you again.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Good to have you on. So tell me what is
what is the link here between vaping and sudden from
THISTH syndrome.
Speaker 11 (07:24):
Yeah, look, it's it's sending I think, well, we could
say very concerning signal. There isn't a direct cause. My
skim reading of the paper is that it's had a
look at just over one hundreds of sudden and deaths
and the a theme very strongly emerged. Bed sharing was
still a common theme which came out, but bed sharing
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with smoking and or vaping. Eighty five percent of the
cot bess had those in common, so it's certainly emerging.
I think is the correct way to worry as a
risk factor for sudden infant death and gosh, what what
absolutely horrible and lifelong condition. I really appreciate your interest
in this. It's it's it's it's it's just so sad
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and tragic, and anything we can do to reduce the risk,
we've just got to actively go for it. I think
what big message is and that this is emerging as well,
vaping is not harmless. And I think we have all
credits in the marketeers they seem to have tried to
get that message of craft that vaping is safe.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
What's the what's actually happening here? Is the vape somehow
like the vape juice or is it that the mother
is smothering? How do the babies die?
Speaker 11 (08:38):
Yeah, good question. It's it's probably as certainly the same
mechanism that smoking during pregnancy is getting into the baby.
So it'll be a combination of the contents of the
cigarette and or the contents of the vape. And bearing
in mind that a vape that you've got a lot
of stuff in the bay, You've not only got the
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inhaled lift which is doing strange things to the to
the lining of the blood vessels of the baby. The
present around the mother and that people concentral unit. But
there's other things that there's a there's bland making this
up now. But I think we've got glycol. We've we've
got a burnt products of glycol aldehydes, that's burnt bits
(09:19):
of metal. Every time somebody is inhaaling a product, they're
inhaving all of that and nicotine. And there's something about
heating nicotine and putting into the lungs is unique. If
you put it in the patch, if you swallow it
by means of a gum, it doesn't seem to have
the same lung effects as if you're inhaling it. So
it's there's something just unique about that.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
All right, good stuff, Doc b Well, not good stuff,
I should say, Doctor Buzbel and last Evy on the
program this morning time is seventeen minutes after five. I
add the IOD has completely changed their tune when it
comes to DIBt and when it comes to liquidations, and
they've gone from softly softly to we're coming after you
and we have new numbers for you on how much
debt we owe the tax man. That's next. News Talks
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Speaker 3 (10:19):
Some numbers five twenty for you on this Wednesday morning.
The SMP Global Ratings Agency, you know, the one we
care about when it comes to our debt. While they
also do a bunch of numbers on growth, and they
reckon that our economy is going to grow about half
a percent faster than they thought it was last time
they checked in twenty six and twenty seven. They're picking
their forecasts two point four percent growth for twenty six,
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two and a half percent for twenty twenty seven, not
to be scoffed at. And high frequency indicators are the
leading reason, including business investment. Business investment, you could argue
would come down in part to business or investment boost
the government policy. It's twenty after five r and Bridge.
Half a million keiwis now in debt to the IRD
(11:02):
total keiw we debt now nine point four billion, that's
up from six billion and twenty twenty three. Now sixty
five percent of that outstanding debt is for SMEETH, which
is a worry. Robin Walker Deloitte tax partner with me
this morning, Robin, good morning, good morning. Is this a
COVID hangover the size of it?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, I think that's definitely the case. You can see
the numbers. There's reporting from about twenty twenty and from
about twenty twenty three the debt numbers really start ballooning.
And during those years inland revenue were directed to focus
on COVID put out those small business cash flow loans
through the COVID support payments, the resurgence payments and so on.
(11:44):
That's what they were focusing on, rather than collecting debt
as soon as it was outstanding.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
And when you're not collecting the debt, it tends to grow.
IID you could argue a bit softly softly and now
going a bit more hardball, what are you seeing.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, definitely there's focus on it and that's come direct
from the government. They're saying, you've got to go out
and collect this money. You want to collect your debt
is while it's fresh. Right. So when we look at
the statistics, ninety five percent of people pay all of
their tax on time and within six months ninety seven
point six percent of the tax is collected. So it is.
(12:20):
It is a small fraction, but it's significant when it's
left uncollected over a significant period of time. So of
the nine point four billion dollars that you mentioned, six
point two million is the actual tax and the rest
of it is interest in penalties. So you've got over
three billion dollars of interest in penalties which are just
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adding to that and making it harder to repay that debt.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
When sixty sixty two percent of the debt that's outstanding
is collectible, what do they mean by that? Does that
just mean that that's the bit that they can likely
get back, minus though the interest and penalties you're talking.
Speaker 11 (12:57):
About, yees.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
So looking at how old is the debt and what
is the type of debt? Is it debt that is
subject to a dispute, Is it a company that's going
through a liquidation process or something is stopping them being
able to collect the debt immediately? They don't write off
the debt until obviously there's absolutely no chance, So that's
(13:22):
kind of like a bit of an accounting thing to
just say, well, what do we think we all will
actually be collecting?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
All right, Robin, good to have you on the show.
This morning. Is always have a great day, Robin Walker,
Deloitte tax partner. It is twenty three minutes after five,
Ryan Bread, Ryan Iod came after me from a house
that I sold before COVID with the brightline test one
hundred and sixty thousand dollars. Wtf aj Well, I mean
the bright line is the bright line? So the bright
(13:50):
line was two years? Or was ten years? Then five
and then two? Is it two at the moment, I'm
pretty sure it is. And depending on when you bought
the property. This is for a second home. When you
bought the property will determine what number which of those
tests supply. It can get a bit confusing. Craikey, Ryan,
(14:12):
I want a job at Otaga University. They study a
lot of things that we all know the answer to
and talk in riddles and they get paid for it.
Says Donald in Lomitu. Good morning, Donald. I'll try and
hook you up with a job there. Am twenty four
minutes after five. Next we'll talk about National because it's
really the only game in town apart from the all
blacks only game in town. Today we will talk about that.
(14:33):
Next nine two nine two is the number to text.
Let me know who you think will emerge today the
leader of the National Party N nine two News Talks
EDB News Talk SB twenty six minutes after five. Here's
how this morning is going to play out. At nine
point thirty am, any member of National's caucus can call
a no confidence vote in Luckxlin's leadership parties. Constitution calls
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these guys the Parliamentary Section. They vote its majority rules
if if there's a vacancy. If there is a vacancy
ie Lucksin's Gomburger, then they elect a new leader or leaders.
History tells us most leaders would do the honorable thing
before this and stand aside, clear the decks, let things
get ready. Bolts did it when Shipley got the knives out.
(15:16):
Luxon would be no different. It's possible this could happen
before nine point thirty am. We could see the PM
resign as Leader of National ahead of the caucus and
effectively as PM in a matter of ours. If the
numbers are not in his favor the writings on the wall,
he could clear the decks for the caucus to focus
on electing his replacement. I've been speaking to National Party
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MPs and former MPs over the past two weeks because
that's how long this thing has been really dragging on
Behind the scenes. Some are furious with Luckson's leadership, own goals,
foot and mouth disease, lack of discipline. There's a feeling
that Key and others in the party have been covering
for Luckson's mistakes, hammering the message that any change will
(15:58):
mean catastrophe come polling day. Talk of a Stanford Mitchell
ticket with Bishop as finance tells you that unlike last time,
the leadership hopefuls have organized with a viable alternative, notably
excluding Nikola Willis. Anyone who tells you that they know
what will happen today is making it up. As much
as twenty five percent of the caucus are set to
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lose their jobs on current polling. If Luxon loses his today,
it will be a gamble, a roll of the dice,
a massive risk if they stick with Luxin. How can
you credibly say you're unified behind your leader after two
spills in four months. Leaders confident in their support don't
(16:44):
need to call confidence votes in themselves, and certainly not
twice Ryan Bridge twenty eight minutes after five So basically
anything could happen. I mean, I think it's fifty to fifty.
At this point, Ryan Erica Stamford, Ryan Erica Stamford, literally
Stamford will emerge. Luxon is wounded and will go look
(17:05):
his wounds. Ryan, I'm a national voter, Erica Stanford. They're
coming too fast. I can't keep up. National stuff is
a media beat up. Yeah, Look, I wouldn't disagree that
the media does get over hyped, as it's inclined to do.
But at the at the first point, no one is
(17:27):
denying Thomas Coglan's story, right. No one has come out
and said, oh it's all lies. There was no one leaking.
There was more than one. So yeah, it's it's over hyped,
no doubt about it. But that doesn't mean it's not true.
News talksb We're in the UK.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
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Speaker 3 (18:07):
News Talks. That'd be so I'm pretty far away from
six year on News Talks. It'd be great to have
your company. We'll talk about the leadership stuff in a
second with Bridget Morton. We will go to Gavin Gray
in the UK. They're having a solar eclipse and you're
losing their minds about it. Over there by the way.
(18:28):
Over in South Africa, our AB's are doing very well,
thank you very much. We are what ten to fifteen
minutes in now half an hour in and the AB's
have scored twice. It's fourteen Neil against the Sharks.
Speaker 12 (18:39):
Spitting it off. It takes a go on the twenty
two links up with McKenzie. Now McKenzie might get to try.
Don't know if he was in the field or not.
Referee here, it's okay, twelve mil kicks to come.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Pretty cool. Solo hawker from Martinano overnight as well. Now
very quickly some of your texts on the leadership question.
I asked you just send me your name. Who do
you want to be the leader of the New National
Party after today? And including luxon, you know, because that's
also a positive. I think it's fifty fifty at this point. Anyway.
Erica is Stanford, Erica is Stanford, Erika stamp There was
a straw poll of ZB listeners this morning. Erica Stamford
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is coming out on top. However, there are texts like
this one Luxon, anyone else would be suicidal. This is
from Clayton Ryan. You know the Erica Stanford story. Absolutely amazing.
I love her. The problem is, and this is an
interesting problem to have, the problem is, she is such
a fantastic Minister of Education. I can't think of anybody
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to take her place in that role if she took
Luxon's place. Now, saying that somebody is so good at
their current job that you don't want them to get
another one tells you something about the person, doesn't it
And the way people view her. Twenty two minutes away
from six o'clock, Rayan Bridge Shadow apportters around the country
in Cullum's and Dunedin Morning. Cullum Morning. Right, what's this
(19:56):
new opportunity for Otago's young entrepreneurs.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Well, it's a ten week enterprise Accelerator program. More than
two hundred and forty young people from around the South, Duanedan,
Kluther and the wy Tucky are being given a leg
up into business and employment through this program. The programs
received one hundred and twenty thousand dollars in government funding,
and so it's for fifteen to twenty four year olds.
It gives them practical workshops to develop business strategies and
(20:22):
tournaments adventures. Minister James Meagha says it's about unlocking potential
and helping youth gain real world experience and confidence to
pursue these opportunities that might otherwise feel out of reach.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
How's your weather?
Speaker 7 (20:34):
A few spots are rained possible through our day? Are
strong nor east of the high twelve? Last one clearsan
christ Church Morning.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Claire, Good morning the mayors. I've been watching his sort
of sola campaign for some time now. He wants the
christ Church to be the soul of power future.
Speaker 13 (20:50):
Yes, we already have those really big solar power plants
out by the airport, I think one of the Southern
Hemisphere's biggest. But now the Mayor has been over to
China in recent weeks and part of that trip was
to look at the way they use solar projects. His
big idea now is that we could have christ Church
creating solar or having solar panels fixed above some of
(21:12):
our big ascents, like the wastewater treatment plant at Bromley
for example. Now, film Major says, if successful, he hopes
this concept would then be able to be used at
other council science, including the likes of Pata Ciure, the
big Metro sports center in the city. Major says, the
key is putting these solar panels where the power is
then being used, so we don't have to sort of
transit the power across the city. He says he's keen
(21:34):
to see how much cheaper it would be with more
coverage and less cost.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
How's your weather clear?
Speaker 13 (21:40):
Very Drisley this morning. There will be some fine breaks
a bit later northeasterlies as we make our way to thirteen.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Nice one, Thank you, Max and Willington. Morning Max, good morning.
We'll get to the coup weather in a second. We'll
start with the water and the error in the billing.
Speaker 14 (21:54):
Yes, we obviously have the first quarterly water bills sent
out under Neuanity Taqi a couple of weeks ago, several
hundred bucks. Certainly took some homeowners by surprise. We had
Andrew Little Mayor in the studio last week. He couldn't
necessarily see why, He said the council had been signed
posting these bills for months. They are now, of course
separate from rates. What he did say though, is perhaps
(22:17):
the new rates bills could have been sent out first
people open them up and say, hey, it's less than
I thought. And then the water bill arrives and it's
all right, So an optic optics thing. Then, in other words,
you've now got the boss of tiaki Y, Michael Brewster,
telling the Post we definitely messed up by sending the
water bills. First, he says, I made an assumption. It
was a poor assumption. I'm the chief executive, I shoulder
(22:39):
the responsibility. This is, of course, a new entity replacing
a historically inept unfavorable one, and its reputation is already
taking a lot of.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Hits, and I just can't get it together. How's the
weather there.
Speaker 14 (22:53):
Well, perhaps metaphorically cloud's cloudy for much of the day,
partly cloudy weather, not Easterly's fifteen.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Don't thank you, Neigh's an all good more good morning.
Now some residents near this reserve want council to remove
temporary waste enclosure.
Speaker 9 (23:08):
Yes, now, this is all about these residents which they've
had enough of the visitors and residents of nearby Karwhole
Island dumping their rubbish. So currently a temporary waste enclosure exists.
This is near Sandspit Wharf, where people you know, returning
from the island, they can put in their rubbish. But
the Sanspit Residents and Ratepairs Association they want this closure
(23:28):
removed and they want people just to you know, you're
coming back from Kawah Island, take your rubbish, take your
wasst with you. Greg Doherty, he's in the association. This
is the Sandspit Residents and Ratepayers Association. He says, Look,
currently it's leading to rubbish overflow.
Speaker 8 (23:44):
The odor, the damage to this reserve.
Speaker 9 (23:46):
So yeah, he says, it operates without resource consent currently
and effectively subsidized by mainland ratepayers.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
They should have to go to the tip and just
do their dumping. A thought too. Most places, like you know,
if you go to places up north like Russell for example,
you go in there and if you're getting an Airbnb
or something like that, you know, you take your rubbish
with you normally, yes, and you go and dump it
in the tip on the way out of town. I
would assume they should be doing something like that.
Speaker 9 (24:12):
They should And how much would you pay for that?
Have you sound like you've been there.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
I've been there recently. I can tell you it's less
than ten.
Speaker 9 (24:20):
Yeah, Well that's that's fine.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
But yeah, especially coming from an island, you know. Yeah,
and cultivation.
Speaker 9 (24:25):
I've ever been there, but it's a beautiful everyone's talking about.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
There are your moscallow take only photographs, leave only footprints,
whatever they do. How's our weather?
Speaker 9 (24:34):
Neiva gout increasing scattered rain? Sixteen the high nice.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
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were following this as the Secret Service following this threat,
and they were so worried about it that they hid
the president inside a catering container. This is the story,
(26:06):
which is I shouldn't laugh. It's a serious matter. But
just thought of Donald Trump and a catering cart being
wheeled across the tarmac into a plane is quite funny.
So he was in front of the media, gets on
Air Force one, in front of the TV cameras, wave
or anything like that, and then was secretly smuggled off
that plane onto a second plane via a catering cart,
(26:28):
and it was onto a military plane and that's the
one he actually left.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
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Speaker 3 (26:37):
Thirdteen minutes away from six o'clock. Gavin Gray is a
UK europe correspondent. Gavin, what's going on with the prisoners
in Burnham?
Speaker 8 (26:46):
Yeah, so, I'm afraid the honeymoon period for our Prime
Minister Andy Burnham seems to be well and truly over.
When his predecessor took over power, a new political party
came in and discovered that the prisons were pretty much full,
meaning that they somehow needed to be emptied out or asked.
People simply weren't going to be able to be sent
to prison or held in custody. So that was when
(27:06):
Sekeir Starmer Andy Burnham's process to predecessor introduced the early
reforms in which some prisoners were being released after just
one third of their sentence. Now the problem for Andy
Burnham is he's taken over and two young men are
due to be released shortly who are well rather infamous.
That is because they were involved in the death of
(27:27):
a police officer who went to investigate a theft at
a farm and this pair were passengers in a car
that drove away, but the police officer that went to
investigate it got caught in the toe rope and was
dragged for several hundred yards to his death. It was
particularly awful and made graphic headlines back in twenty twenty
as I said they are due and eligible for release.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Now.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
Initially Andy Burnham pushed out all his ministers saying well,
we can't. Nothing can be done. The law can't be
changed retrospectively anyway, you know, parliament's on holiday, etc. Etc.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
I don't know you run.
Speaker 8 (28:00):
I thought we actually elected people to change the laws,
but he said they couldn't, And now all of a
sudden he appears that they can, with Andy Burnham today
saying that he's increasingly confident that the government can free
up space in overcrowded prisons to prevent the early release
of the most serious offenders. Lots of different options, including
potentially sending back lots of foreign prisoners. There are foreign nationals.
(28:24):
One in eight of our prisoners are foreign nationals. But
it's not clear how it's going to work in practice.
And of course, now having changed his mind or seeming
to have changed his mind, he's being accused of u
turns by his opponents.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Have you got any Are you excited about the solar eclipse?
Partial solar eclipse? You're going to go out?
Speaker 8 (28:43):
Yes, twenty four hours now it'll be at its peak
and it's going to be a big one there about
ninety percent. Again, lots of warnings that don't look straight
to at it gets some solar eclipse classes and stuff,
yet not often we in here in the little island
of the UK. Treaty is such a thing. But it
looks like most of it and Wales will have clear skys,
meaning we should be able to see it. So yeah,
(29:05):
quite a treat install.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
All right, goods here from your Gevin Gray are UK
you're correspondent. By the way they're saying, the solar power,
the solar panels could be affected, so just go easy
on the power while the solar eclipses and place ten
minutes away from six Bryan Bridge, So Prime Ministers and Wellington.
The Surgeon Caucus meeting nine to thirty this morning follows
reports of its MP's calling each other doing the numbers,
(29:26):
discussing whether to roll them. So is he toast?
Speaker 15 (29:29):
Last week the Peam apologized for remarks about rot Aurora,
and obviously there's been a bit of debate about the MMP.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
You know, coll but we beck our leader.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
You do have confidence in the Prime Minister one hundred
and fifty percent.
Speaker 9 (29:42):
Here's the man and here's the boss.
Speaker 14 (29:44):
I mean, on what they're doing and what's happening.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
All I know is we've got a meeting tomorrow nine
thirty and Wellington.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Bridget more than political commentator with me this morning. Bridget,
good morning, Good morning. So what's going to happen today?
Speaker 10 (29:57):
Well, I mean, the number one thing that has to
happen is that they have to emerge from that caucus
meeting with a definitive answer on who is going to
be leading this country and who's going to be taken
into the election. They can't let this drag on any longer.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
If Luxon comes back and as leader after the second vote,
can you credibly say yeah, we're back behind our leader.
If you're having two spells in four.
Speaker 10 (30:19):
Months, it's going to be really difficult for them to
demonstrate that they are a unified caucus, and it is
going to be difficult for them to demonstrate that this
kind of speculation is not going to plague them all
the way through to election, Dame.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
And beyond right, Sure we might vote national and elect
Luxon as prime minister, but will he stayed prime minister?
Those questions too.
Speaker 10 (30:41):
Yeah, absolutely, And I think that's what a number of
MPs are looking down the future. Obviously they all want
to be there for another term, but they're also looking
at what that second term might look like.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Then there's snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. That
is a possibility if you switch. It's an unknown quantity
looking like Erica Stamford would be at the top of
the ticket, but untested, don't know a lot of question marks.
Speaker 10 (31:06):
There's a lot of really actually tested I think senior
ministers that have spent a lot of time round politics
and actually delivering. So don't think you can say it's
completely unknown and quantum. I think a lot of people
actually know a lot about these different politicians and what
they might look like as leaders.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Bridget what do you think they should do?
Speaker 10 (31:27):
I think the number one thing they have to do
is stop talking about themselves and get back to actually
talking about what voters want, because regardless of whether they
make a leadership change or not, they're still looking at
the possibility of being a one ten government.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Bridget, thank you, Bridget Morton, political commentator with us this morning.
That meeting is nine point thirty. Of course we could
hear from the PM before that it is seven minutes
away from six. By the way, that AB's still ahead
halftime forteing nil against the Sharks.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
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Speaker 3 (32:01):
That'd be five to six morning, Mike Greetings. Should we
go to the listeners. Ryan Luxton will be the leader
hopefully the troublemakers found and the left leaning media and
New Zealand's put in its place.
Speaker 15 (32:13):
Pink's the biggest duplicitor shit out of the whole lot
of them so far. And what he's doing involved in this,
I've got no but he's your main steer. And the
interesting thing was, well, first of all, the people, the
people running around with a hedge run chopped off last
night saying it was done last night, the numbers were
over they wrong.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Yeah, obviously, Yeah, so it's not a dumb thing.
Speaker 15 (32:32):
I'm told by people that I'm reasonably confident with that
they are quote unquote quietly confident.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
But quietly it's emphasist on quietly.
Speaker 15 (32:42):
Well, there's no one. No one's going to that I
talk to, who's going to go. Don't worry about it, mate,
we're home free because they're not.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yes, But doesn't that tell you something that this guy
and he's said, Look, I'm not disparaging the good things
he has done, but two leadership votes Confident people don't
call confidence votes in themselves.
Speaker 15 (32:58):
Twic's the most that's the the biggest thing working against them,
which is how many times you want to go through this?
And so but he's between a rock and a hard place.
He had to call today because to let he's getting
white handed by bishops, another white ant. I had that
confirmed yesterday. He's out there undermining Luxe and I know
that to be true. So that carries on to the election.
(33:20):
So you've got to try and nip it in the
baby and can potentially beyond it too. That's the other
thing I don't know. No, See, this is whoever you
had on before. I think that's where they're wrong. If
Luxon wins. And this is the mental thing about.
Speaker 14 (33:32):
This whole thing.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Look at the pulse.
Speaker 15 (33:33):
Yeah, I mean, you know, honestly, but if they win,
If lux And wins on the seventh of November, this
all goes away, instantly goes away, because you're a winner.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
You're a winner, and they love winner. But how much,
how many? But how much have you won by?
Speaker 15 (33:48):
That's that doesn't matter because the people who didn't win
aren't there.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Do you want to be do you want to be
walking around for three years? As a cut to Winston
and Seymour, Well, that's.
Speaker 15 (33:57):
The don't if you don't like, if you don't, if
you don't like, and then you shouldn't have voted for it,
shouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
But what a great day, What an interesting day, great
day for democracy. Michauld be with your next News Talk ZIBB.
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
They'd be good morning at.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Six half to five grade to have your company. Look.
It's a fifty to fifty call at this point on
Lux and we'll talk about it throughout the morning. Ird's
coming for your Gavin Graves in the UK. Let's get
to the agenda. The agenda this Wednesday, the twelfth of August.
So the death told us big earthquake seven point four
in Columbia. You would have seen the footage by now.
Well the death toll is now more than two hundred
(00:32):
and twenty.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
All of the people that can come to help with
the clinic, please come quick. I have many people at
the ICU in hospital. We need to get them out.
All the buildings have collapsed. It is completely destroyed. All
the people that can come and help, please come quickly. Now,
many patients that need to get out.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
New president we mentioned this yesterday. The new prison just
been elected and has spoken. This is Delastralia and citizens.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
At this moment, I'm traveling to Bogata. I have ordered
to suspend all the meetings in gagements that I had
in the capital of the Republic to focus on the
natural disaster that today hits at our long suffering Colombian people.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Over in the UK, we were talking about this. Andy
Burnham comes in and he takes over the policy of
the former leader in Starma. Let's let the prisoners out
of jail. Well, he's having conniptions about that now, isn't he.
Nothing's changed.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
I came into office and started pushing on this issue,
and I have pushed every single day in office since then,
and I've never accepted that there is nothing more that
can be done. We did first exclude those charged with rape,
serious sexual offenses against children, those convicted of offenses linked
(01:41):
to grooming. But I then said, but we also need
to go further.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
So perfectly unclear, and who knows what's going to happen
to the killers of those cops that kick us off
in the first place. Right Staying in the UK, people
are going nuts because a solar eclipse is going to happen.
It's going to happen tomorrow morning our time. It'll be
Europe's first total solar eclipse in thirty years.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Today, all of a sudden, people seem to have really
caught on and our phone's been running practically after hook
asking us for information about the eclipse.
Speaker 7 (02:13):
I heard about it on TikTok and it just seems
pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I'm excited about it because it doesn't really happen that often.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
So I remember being very little, were dying of Green
Sands with my parents, and I just remember like looking
over the lake and it was just amazing.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
There they've been told just don't go look at it
with the sunglasses on. You actually need certified eclipse glasses.
Speaker 8 (02:31):
The temptation on Wednesday evening will be are sure enough
ninety percent of it will be covered.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I'll be grand.
Speaker 8 (02:36):
No, you won't be grand.
Speaker 9 (02:37):
You will have a permanent imprint off the eclipse on
the back of.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Your eye and for the rest of your life that
will be in your view.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
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Speaker 3 (02:55):
It'd be all of it, grim, isn't it. Don't look
at the sun, don't look too closely at the sun.
And if you are going to I can remember being
a kid and there at school we had I don't
know if it was a partial. I think it was
a partial eclipse, and we had to wear these big
welding goggles over our faces and so we could look
directly at it. So anyway, if you're heading that way,
then just don't look directly at it. Let's go to
(03:18):
what the National Party looking directly at today. And that's
just the basically leadership vote. That's all anyone cares about.
So here's the Curier pole that was leaked to the
Post last week, Luxon with a net favorability score of
minus nineteen, hipkins On minus seven, so Hipkins looking better
Peters minus sixteen, so Luxon less favorable than Peter's and
(03:41):
a net favorability of for Luxen of nationally voters of
fifty percent. Now, how do you get that bad? So
there are a couple of numbers they'll be looking at,
one of which is the pole from Friday, right, this
pole that came out on Friday. And even if you
look at the trend, the polar poles has the left
block three point two percent answer forming a government. So
(04:01):
why the hell do you go and turf out a
guy who is leading the party that will probably get
your party, your government re elected. Why would you do that? Well,
they point to a couple of other things, including that
net favorability rating, and they say that is key. This
is the ones who want change. That is a key
number because it tells you if we get rid of
(04:22):
the leader, then the drag on the party vote disappears.
We will potentially take back some right block from acting
from New Zealand First and maybe even start to play
in the soft center as well. That's the argument that's
been made, and I guess you have to look at
it like this. If National was to elect a new leader,
(04:44):
would any New Zealand First voters run to Labor? No?
Would any ACT voters run to Labor?
Speaker 10 (04:51):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Would any National voters run to Labor at this point,
given where they are polling, I don't think they will.
So the argument that being made by those people who
want change. And I've been speaking to a whole bunch
of National Party people over the last twenty four to forty,
well actually over the last two weeks, because people have
been pissed off. I'm just going to tell you, people
in the party have been really pissed off about the
(05:13):
way that the Prime ministers has been behaving and all
of those who come around and try and save them
from himself sometimes, which is not to say he's not
doing a good job in some areas, you know, getting
the right team in place, all of those things, but
they're passed off frankly. So yeah, the question then becomes,
(05:35):
if you do make a change, do you go backwards?
Do you risk the treasury benches? Because anyone who takes
that job and dives knows dives national or risks the
election of a left wing government will be crucified and
go down in the history books as the most egregious
(05:59):
slap in the face too the party that you could imagine.
So stakes are high today. Twelve after five, Bryan Bridge,
You're on News Talks c B. We'll talk about a
new study out of the University of otargets to do
with cock death and vaping.
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is over in South Africa. Have a listen. Pretty cool,
just one man in a hacker. It is fourteen after five,
(06:53):
Bryan Bridge. You study from the University of Otago. Vaping
around newborn's potential higher risk of cop death. Baby dies
in their sleep, unexplained. That's basically what COT death is.
Maternal vaping was reported in half of the cases that
involved direct bid sharing. Dr Buzz Burrell General Practitioners Outed
achieved with me this morning, Doctor Buzz.
Speaker 11 (07:13):
Good morning, Ryan, good morning, Good to talk to you again.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Good to have you on. So tell me what is
what is the link here between vaping and sudden from
THISTH syndrome.
Speaker 11 (07:24):
Yeah, look, it's it's sending I think, well, we could
say very concerning signal. There isn't a direct cause. My
skim reading of the paper is that it's had a
look at just over one hundreds of sudden and deaths
and the a theme very strongly emerged. Bed sharing was
still a common theme which came out, but bed sharing
(07:47):
with smoking and or vaping. Eighty five percent of the
cot bess had those in common, so it's certainly emerging.
I think is the correct way to worry as a
risk factor for sudden infant death and gosh, what what
absolutely horrible and lifelong condition. I really appreciate your interest
in this. It's it's it's it's it's just so sad
(08:09):
and tragic, and anything we can do to reduce the risk,
we've just got to actively go for it. I think
what big message is and that this is emerging as well,
vaping is not harmless. And I think we have all
credits in the marketeers they seem to have tried to
get that message of craft that vaping is safe.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
What's the what's actually happening here? Is the vape somehow
like the vape juice or is it that the mother
is smothering? How do the babies die?
Speaker 11 (08:38):
Yeah, good question. It's it's probably as certainly the same
mechanism that smoking during pregnancy is getting into the baby.
So it'll be a combination of the contents of the
cigarette and or the contents of the vape. And bearing
in mind that a vape that you've got a lot
of stuff in the bay, You've not only got the
(08:59):
inhaled lift which is doing strange things to the to
the lining of the blood vessels of the baby. The
present around the mother and that people concentral unit. But
there's other things that there's a there's bland making this
up now. But I think we've got glycol. We've we've
got a burnt products of glycol aldehydes, that's burnt bits
(09:19):
of metal. Every time somebody is inhaaling a product, they're
inhaving all of that and nicotine. And there's something about
heating nicotine and putting into the lungs is unique. If
you put it in the patch, if you swallow it
by means of a gum, it doesn't seem to have
the same lung effects as if you're inhaling it. So
it's there's something just unique about that.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
All right, good stuff, Doc b Well, not good stuff,
I should say, Doctor Buzbel and last Evy on the
program this morning time is seventeen minutes after five. I
add the IOD has completely changed their tune when it
comes to DIBt and when it comes to liquidations, and
they've gone from softly softly to we're coming after you
and we have new numbers for you on how much
debt we owe the tax man. That's next. News Talks
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Speaker 3 (10:19):
Some numbers five twenty for you on this Wednesday morning.
The SMP Global Ratings Agency, you know, the one we
care about when it comes to our debt. While they
also do a bunch of numbers on growth, and they
reckon that our economy is going to grow about half
a percent faster than they thought it was last time
they checked in twenty six and twenty seven. They're picking
their forecasts two point four percent growth for twenty six,
(10:42):
two and a half percent for twenty twenty seven, not
to be scoffed at. And high frequency indicators are the
leading reason, including business investment. Business investment, you could argue
would come down in part to business or investment boost
the government policy. It's twenty after five r and Bridge.
Half a million keiwis now in debt to the IRD
(11:02):
total keiw we debt now nine point four billion, that's
up from six billion and twenty twenty three. Now sixty
five percent of that outstanding debt is for SMEETH, which
is a worry. Robin Walker Deloitte tax partner with me
this morning, Robin, good morning, good morning. Is this a
COVID hangover the size of it?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, I think that's definitely the case. You can see
the numbers. There's reporting from about twenty twenty and from
about twenty twenty three the debt numbers really start ballooning.
And during those years inland revenue were directed to focus
on COVID put out those small business cash flow loans
through the COVID support payments, the resurgence payments and so on.
(11:44):
That's what they were focusing on, rather than collecting debt
as soon as it was outstanding.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
And when you're not collecting the debt, it tends to grow.
IID you could argue a bit softly softly and now
going a bit more hardball, what are you seeing.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, definitely there's focus on it and that's come direct
from the government. They're saying, you've got to go out
and collect this money. You want to collect your debt
is while it's fresh. Right. So when we look at
the statistics, ninety five percent of people pay all of
their tax on time and within six months ninety seven
point six percent of the tax is collected. So it is.
(12:20):
It is a small fraction, but it's significant when it's
left uncollected over a significant period of time. So of
the nine point four billion dollars that you mentioned, six
point two million is the actual tax and the rest
of it is interest in penalties. So you've got over
three billion dollars of interest in penalties which are just
(12:41):
adding to that and making it harder to repay that debt.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
When sixty sixty two percent of the debt that's outstanding
is collectible, what do they mean by that? Does that
just mean that that's the bit that they can likely
get back, minus though the interest and penalties you're talking.
Speaker 11 (12:57):
About, yees.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
So looking at how old is the debt and what
is the type of debt? Is it debt that is
subject to a dispute, Is it a company that's going
through a liquidation process or something is stopping them being
able to collect the debt immediately? They don't write off
the debt until obviously there's absolutely no chance, So that's
(13:22):
kind of like a bit of an accounting thing to
just say, well, what do we think we all will
actually be collecting?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
All right, Robin, good to have you on the show.
This morning. Is always have a great day, Robin Walker,
Deloitte tax partner. It is twenty three minutes after five,
Ryan Bread, Ryan Iod came after me from a house
that I sold before COVID with the brightline test one
hundred and sixty thousand dollars. Wtf aj Well, I mean
the bright line is the bright line? So the bright
(13:50):
line was two years? Or was ten years? Then five
and then two? Is it two at the moment, I'm
pretty sure it is. And depending on when you bought
the property. This is for a second home. When you
bought the property will determine what number which of those
tests supply. It can get a bit confusing. Craikey, Ryan,
(14:12):
I want a job at Otaga University. They study a
lot of things that we all know the answer to
and talk in riddles and they get paid for it.
Says Donald in Lomitu. Good morning, Donald. I'll try and
hook you up with a job there. Am twenty four
minutes after five. Next we'll talk about National because it's
really the only game in town apart from the all
blacks only game in town. Today we will talk about that.
(14:33):
Next nine two nine two is the number to text.
Let me know who you think will emerge today the
leader of the National Party N nine two News Talks
EDB News Talk SB twenty six minutes after five. Here's
how this morning is going to play out. At nine
point thirty am, any member of National's caucus can call
a no confidence vote in Luckxlin's leadership parties. Constitution calls
(14:54):
these guys the Parliamentary Section. They vote its majority rules
if if there's a vacancy. If there is a vacancy
ie Lucksin's Gomburger, then they elect a new leader or leaders.
History tells us most leaders would do the honorable thing
before this and stand aside, clear the decks, let things
get ready. Bolts did it when Shipley got the knives out.
(15:16):
Luxon would be no different. It's possible this could happen
before nine point thirty am. We could see the PM
resign as Leader of National ahead of the caucus and
effectively as PM in a matter of ours. If the
numbers are not in his favor the writings on the wall,
he could clear the decks for the caucus to focus
on electing his replacement. I've been speaking to National Party
(15:37):
MPs and former MPs over the past two weeks because
that's how long this thing has been really dragging on
Behind the scenes. Some are furious with Luckson's leadership, own goals,
foot and mouth disease, lack of discipline. There's a feeling
that Key and others in the party have been covering
for Luckson's mistakes, hammering the message that any change will
(15:58):
mean catastrophe come polling day. Talk of a Stanford Mitchell
ticket with Bishop as finance tells you that unlike last time,
the leadership hopefuls have organized with a viable alternative, notably
excluding Nikola Willis. Anyone who tells you that they know
what will happen today is making it up. As much
as twenty five percent of the caucus are set to
(16:20):
lose their jobs on current polling. If Luxon loses his today,
it will be a gamble, a roll of the dice,
a massive risk if they stick with Luxin. How can
you credibly say you're unified behind your leader after two
spills in four months. Leaders confident in their support don't
(16:44):
need to call confidence votes in themselves, and certainly not
twice Ryan Bridge twenty eight minutes after five So basically
anything could happen. I mean, I think it's fifty to fifty.
At this point, Ryan Erica Stamford, Ryan Erica Stamford, literally
Stamford will emerge. Luxon is wounded and will go look
(17:05):
his wounds. Ryan, I'm a national voter, Erica Stanford. They're
coming too fast. I can't keep up. National stuff is
a media beat up. Yeah, Look, I wouldn't disagree that
the media does get over hyped, as it's inclined to do.
But at the at the first point, no one is
(17:27):
denying Thomas Coglan's story, right. No one has come out
and said, oh it's all lies. There was no one leaking.
There was more than one. So yeah, it's it's over hyped,
no doubt about it. But that doesn't mean it's not true.
News talksb We're in the UK.
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Speaker 3 (18:07):
News Talks. That'd be so I'm pretty far away from
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your company. We'll talk about the leadership stuff in a
second with Bridget Morton. We will go to Gavin Gray
in the UK. They're having a solar eclipse and you're
losing their minds about it. Over there by the way.
(18:28):
Over in South Africa, our AB's are doing very well,
thank you very much. We are what ten to fifteen
minutes in now half an hour in and the AB's
have scored twice. It's fourteen Neil against the Sharks.
Speaker 12 (18:39):
Spitting it off. It takes a go on the twenty
two links up with McKenzie. Now McKenzie might get to try.
Don't know if he was in the field or not.
Referee here, it's okay, twelve mil kicks to come.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Pretty cool. Solo hawker from Martinano overnight as well. Now
very quickly some of your texts on the leadership question.
I asked you just send me your name. Who do
you want to be the leader of the New National
Party after today? And including luxon, you know, because that's
also a positive. I think it's fifty fifty at this point. Anyway.
Erica is Stanford, Erica is Stanford, Erika stamp There was
a straw poll of ZB listeners this morning. Erica Stamford
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is coming out on top. However, there are texts like
this one Luxon, anyone else would be suicidal. This is
from Clayton Ryan. You know the Erica Stanford story. Absolutely amazing.
I love her. The problem is, and this is an
interesting problem to have, the problem is, she is such
a fantastic Minister of Education. I can't think of anybody
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to take her place in that role if she took
Luxon's place. Now, saying that somebody is so good at
their current job that you don't want them to get
another one tells you something about the person, doesn't it
And the way people view her. Twenty two minutes away
from six o'clock, Rayan Bridge Shadow apportters around the country
in Cullum's and Dunedin Morning. Cullum Morning. Right, what's this
(19:56):
new opportunity for Otago's young entrepreneurs.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
Well, it's a ten week enterprise Accelerator program. More than
two hundred and forty young people from around the South, Duanedan,
Kluther and the wy Tucky are being given a leg
up into business and employment through this program. The programs
received one hundred and twenty thousand dollars in government funding,
and so it's for fifteen to twenty four year olds.
It gives them practical workshops to develop business strategies and
(20:22):
tournaments adventures. Minister James Meagha says it's about unlocking potential
and helping youth gain real world experience and confidence to
pursue these opportunities that might otherwise feel out of reach.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
How's your weather?
Speaker 7 (20:34):
A few spots are rained possible through our day? Are
strong nor east of the high twelve? Last one clearsan
christ Church Morning.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Claire, Good morning the mayors. I've been watching his sort
of sola campaign for some time now. He wants the
christ Church to be the soul of power future.
Speaker 13 (20:50):
Yes, we already have those really big solar power plants
out by the airport, I think one of the Southern
Hemisphere's biggest. But now the Mayor has been over to
China in recent weeks and part of that trip was
to look at the way they use solar projects. His
big idea now is that we could have christ Church
creating solar or having solar panels fixed above some of
(21:12):
our big ascents, like the wastewater treatment plant at Bromley
for example. Now, film Major says, if successful, he hopes
this concept would then be able to be used at
other council science, including the likes of Pata Ciure, the
big Metro sports center in the city. Major says, the
key is putting these solar panels where the power is
then being used, so we don't have to sort of
transit the power across the city. He says he's keen
(21:34):
to see how much cheaper it would be with more
coverage and less cost.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
How's your weather clear?
Speaker 13 (21:40):
Very Drisley this morning. There will be some fine breaks
a bit later northeasterlies as we make our way to thirteen.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Nice one, Thank you, Max and Willington. Morning Max, good morning.
We'll get to the coup weather in a second. We'll
start with the water and the error in the billing.
Speaker 14 (21:54):
Yes, we obviously have the first quarterly water bills sent
out under Neuanity Taqi a couple of weeks ago, several
hundred bucks. Certainly took some homeowners by surprise. We had
Andrew Little Mayor in the studio last week. He couldn't
necessarily see why, He said the council had been signed
posting these bills for months. They are now, of course
separate from rates. What he did say though, is perhaps
(22:17):
the new rates bills could have been sent out first
people open them up and say, hey, it's less than
I thought. And then the water bill arrives and it's
all right, So an optic optics thing. Then, in other words,
you've now got the boss of tiaki Y, Michael Brewster,
telling the Post we definitely messed up by sending the
water bills. First, he says, I made an assumption. It
was a poor assumption. I'm the chief executive, I shoulder
(22:39):
the responsibility. This is, of course, a new entity replacing
a historically inept unfavorable one, and its reputation is already
taking a lot of.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Hits, and I just can't get it together. How's the
weather there.
Speaker 14 (22:53):
Well, perhaps metaphorically cloud's cloudy for much of the day,
partly cloudy weather, not Easterly's fifteen.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Don't thank you, Neigh's an all good more good morning.
Now some residents near this reserve want council to remove
temporary waste enclosure.
Speaker 9 (23:08):
Yes, now, this is all about these residents which they've
had enough of the visitors and residents of nearby Karwhole
Island dumping their rubbish. So currently a temporary waste enclosure exists.
This is near Sandspit Wharf, where people you know, returning
from the island, they can put in their rubbish. But
the Sanspit Residents and Ratepairs Association they want this closure
(23:28):
removed and they want people just to you know, you're
coming back from Kawah Island, take your rubbish, take your
wasst with you. Greg Doherty, he's in the association. This
is the Sandspit Residents and Ratepayers Association. He says, Look,
currently it's leading to rubbish overflow.
Speaker 8 (23:44):
The odor, the damage to this reserve.
Speaker 9 (23:46):
So yeah, he says, it operates without resource consent currently
and effectively subsidized by mainland ratepayers.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
They should have to go to the tip and just
do their dumping. A thought too. Most places, like you know,
if you go to places up north like Russell for example,
you go in there and if you're getting an Airbnb
or something like that, you know, you take your rubbish
with you normally, yes, and you go and dump it
in the tip on the way out of town. I
would assume they should be doing something like that.
Speaker 9 (24:12):
They should And how much would you pay for that?
Have you sound like you've been there.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
I've been there recently. I can tell you it's less
than ten.
Speaker 9 (24:20):
Yeah, Well that's that's fine.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
But yeah, especially coming from an island, you know. Yeah,
and cultivation.
Speaker 9 (24:25):
I've ever been there, but it's a beautiful everyone's talking about.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
There are your moscallow take only photographs, leave only footprints,
whatever they do. How's our weather?
Speaker 9 (24:34):
Neiva gout increasing scattered rain? Sixteen the high nice.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
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So you know, he was over in Turkey at the
NATO summit and left. Suddenly everyone went, oh, Trump has
stormed out of the NATO summit. Turns out there was
a threat from the Iranians, an assassination threat, and they
were following this as the Secret Service following this threat,
and they were so worried about it that they hid
the president inside a catering container. This is the story,
(26:06):
which is I shouldn't laugh. It's a serious matter. But
just thought of Donald Trump and a catering cart being
wheeled across the tarmac into a plane is quite funny.
So he was in front of the media, gets on
Air Force one, in front of the TV cameras, wave
or anything like that, and then was secretly smuggled off
that plane onto a second plane via a catering cart,
(26:28):
and it was onto a military plane and that's the
one he actually left.
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Speaker 3 (26:37):
Thirdteen minutes away from six o'clock. Gavin Gray is a
UK europe correspondent. Gavin, what's going on with the prisoners
in Burnham?
Speaker 8 (26:46):
Yeah, so, I'm afraid the honeymoon period for our Prime
Minister Andy Burnham seems to be well and truly over.
When his predecessor took over power, a new political party
came in and discovered that the prisons were pretty much full,
meaning that they somehow needed to be emptied out or asked.
People simply weren't going to be able to be sent
to prison or held in custody. So that was when
(27:06):
Sekeir Starmer Andy Burnham's process to predecessor introduced the early
reforms in which some prisoners were being released after just
one third of their sentence. Now the problem for Andy
Burnham is he's taken over and two young men are
due to be released shortly who are well rather infamous.
That is because they were involved in the death of
(27:27):
a police officer who went to investigate a theft at
a farm and this pair were passengers in a car
that drove away, but the police officer that went to
investigate it got caught in the toe rope and was
dragged for several hundred yards to his death. It was
particularly awful and made graphic headlines back in twenty twenty
as I said they are due and eligible for release.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Now.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
Initially Andy Burnham pushed out all his ministers saying well,
we can't. Nothing can be done. The law can't be
changed retrospectively anyway, you know, parliament's on holiday, etc. Etc.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
I don't know you run.
Speaker 8 (28:00):
I thought we actually elected people to change the laws,
but he said they couldn't, And now all of a
sudden he appears that they can, with Andy Burnham today
saying that he's increasingly confident that the government can free
up space in overcrowded prisons to prevent the early release
of the most serious offenders. Lots of different options, including
potentially sending back lots of foreign prisoners. There are foreign nationals.
(28:24):
One in eight of our prisoners are foreign nationals. But
it's not clear how it's going to work in practice.
And of course, now having changed his mind or seeming
to have changed his mind, he's being accused of u
turns by his opponents.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Have you got any Are you excited about the solar eclipse?
Partial solar eclipse? You're going to go out?
Speaker 8 (28:43):
Yes, twenty four hours now it'll be at its peak
and it's going to be a big one there about
ninety percent. Again, lots of warnings that don't look straight
to at it gets some solar eclipse classes and stuff,
yet not often we in here in the little island
of the UK. Treaty is such a thing. But it
looks like most of it and Wales will have clear skys,
meaning we should be able to see it. So yeah,
(29:05):
quite a treat install.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
All right, goods here from your Gevin Gray are UK
you're correspondent. By the way they're saying, the solar power,
the solar panels could be affected, so just go easy
on the power while the solar eclipses and place ten
minutes away from six Bryan Bridge, So Prime Ministers and Wellington.
The Surgeon Caucus meeting nine to thirty this morning follows
reports of its MP's calling each other doing the numbers,
(29:26):
discussing whether to roll them. So is he toast?
Speaker 15 (29:29):
Last week the Peam apologized for remarks about rot Aurora,
and obviously there's been a bit of debate about the MMP.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
You know, coll but we beck our leader.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
You do have confidence in the Prime Minister one hundred
and fifty percent.
Speaker 9 (29:42):
Here's the man and here's the boss.
Speaker 14 (29:44):
I mean, on what they're doing and what's happening.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
All I know is we've got a meeting tomorrow nine
thirty and Wellington.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Bridget more than political commentator with me this morning. Bridget,
good morning, Good morning. So what's going to happen today?
Speaker 10 (29:57):
Well, I mean, the number one thing that has to
happen is that they have to emerge from that caucus
meeting with a definitive answer on who is going to
be leading this country and who's going to be taken
into the election. They can't let this drag on any longer.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
If Luxon comes back and as leader after the second vote,
can you credibly say yeah, we're back behind our leader.
If you're having two spells in four.
Speaker 10 (30:19):
Months, it's going to be really difficult for them to
demonstrate that they are a unified caucus, and it is
going to be difficult for them to demonstrate that this
kind of speculation is not going to plague them all
the way through to election, Dame.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
And beyond right, Sure we might vote national and elect
Luxon as prime minister, but will he stayed prime minister?
Those questions too.
Speaker 10 (30:41):
Yeah, absolutely, And I think that's what a number of
MPs are looking down the future. Obviously they all want
to be there for another term, but they're also looking
at what that second term might look like.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Then there's snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. That
is a possibility if you switch. It's an unknown quantity
looking like Erica Stamford would be at the top of
the ticket, but untested, don't know a lot of question marks.
Speaker 10 (31:06):
There's a lot of really actually tested I think senior
ministers that have spent a lot of time round politics
and actually delivering. So don't think you can say it's
completely unknown and quantum. I think a lot of people
actually know a lot about these different politicians and what
they might look like as leaders.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Bridget what do you think they should do?
Speaker 10 (31:27):
I think the number one thing they have to do
is stop talking about themselves and get back to actually
talking about what voters want, because regardless of whether they
make a leadership change or not, they're still looking at
the possibility of being a one ten government.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Bridget, thank you, Bridget Morton, political commentator with us this morning.
That meeting is nine point thirty. Of course we could
hear from the PM before that it is seven minutes
away from six. By the way, that AB's still ahead
halftime forteing nil against the Sharks.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan
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Speaker 3 (32:01):
That'd be five to six morning, Mike Greetings. Should we
go to the listeners. Ryan Luxton will be the leader
hopefully the troublemakers found and the left leaning media and
New Zealand's put in its place.
Speaker 15 (32:13):
Pink's the biggest duplicitor shit out of the whole lot
of them so far. And what he's doing involved in this,
I've got no but he's your main steer. And the
interesting thing was, well, first of all, the people, the
people running around with a hedge run chopped off last
night saying it was done last night, the numbers were
over they wrong.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Yeah, obviously, Yeah, so it's not a dumb thing.
Speaker 15 (32:32):
I'm told by people that I'm reasonably confident with that
they are quote unquote quietly confident.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
But quietly it's emphasist on quietly.
Speaker 15 (32:42):
Well, there's no one. No one's going to that I
talk to, who's going to go. Don't worry about it, mate,
we're home free because they're not.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yes, But doesn't that tell you something that this guy
and he's said, Look, I'm not disparaging the good things
he has done, but two leadership votes Confident people don't
call confidence votes in themselves.
Speaker 15 (32:58):
Twic's the most that's the the biggest thing working against them,
which is how many times you want to go through this?
And so but he's between a rock and a hard place.
He had to call today because to let he's getting
white handed by bishops, another white ant. I had that
confirmed yesterday. He's out there undermining Luxe and I know
that to be true. So that carries on to the election.
(33:20):
So you've got to try and nip it in the
baby and can potentially beyond it too. That's the other
thing I don't know. No, See, this is whoever you
had on before. I think that's where they're wrong. If
Luxon wins. And this is the mental thing about.
Speaker 14 (33:32):
This whole thing.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Look at the pulse.
Speaker 15 (33:33):
Yeah, I mean, you know, honestly, but if they win,
If lux And wins on the seventh of November, this
all goes away, instantly goes away, because you're a winner.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
You're a winner, and they love winner. But how much,
how many? But how much have you won by?
Speaker 15 (33:48):
That's that doesn't matter because the people who didn't win
aren't there.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Do you want to be do you want to be
walking around for three years? As a cut to Winston
and Seymour, Well, that's.
Speaker 15 (33:57):
The don't if you don't like, if you don't, if
you don't like, and then you shouldn't have voted for it,
shouldn't it.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
But what a great day, What an interesting day, great
day for democracy. Michauld be with your next News Talk ZIBB.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
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