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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
early edition with Spark for business technology that keeps business moving,
News talks.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
It'd be give Morning six half for five. We've likely
got a new party entering parliament after the election. We'll
talk about that before six Budget Day. Across the Tasman,
we're live to Leslie and half of first home buyers
need help from mum and dad. We'll go to the
UK for the latest on Starmer too. The agenda speaking
of is still on thin ice for his MPs this morning.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I'm somebody who has wanted Care to succeed as Prime Minister.
I want our labor government to succeed, but I think
it's become increasingly clear that our labor government can no
longer succeed if we have Care at the helm.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
He's not about mum, you know.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
He's a very very nice man.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Or he's an awful politician.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That was Paula Barker. So fifty four MPs as I
came on here just a few minutes ago, it was
fifteen hour up to fifty four MPs, now fifty five
MP's according to Sky News as saying that Starmer should go,
he should resign, and remember they need to get eighty
U plus one in order to force a vote. Earlier,
he made his big speech saying I'll prove the doubt
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is wrong.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
We will be better and do better in the months
and years ahead because we are not just facing dangerous times,
but dangerous opponents, very dangerous opponents. This hurts not just
because Labour has done badly, but because if we don't
get this right, our country will go down a very
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dark Is.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
That the strategy is that? The strategy to say, hey,
you know the guy that you will just voted for
instead of me, he's dangerous. I mean, come on, you're
thereby implying that everyone who voted for him is dangerous too. Anyway,
in other news, let's go to Trump. He's calling around
slaves proposal stupid.
Speaker 7 (01:56):
After reading a piece of garbage, I would say the
ceasplayer is on massive life support where the doctor walks
in and says, sir, your loved one has approximately a
one percent chance of living.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
I'm enjoying this this morning, kinsy you I mean, it's
not funny if you're there, obviously give us health authority.
Site eighteen Americans from the ship the Stricken Cruise Ship
where they head hand to virus. One person has tasted
positive that's taken American on the repatriation flat on Sunday
also showed symptoms in his fond to Atlanta.
Speaker 8 (02:31):
Let me be crystal clear, the risk of Haunted virus
to the general public remains very, very low. The ANDES
variant of this virus does not spread easily, and it
requires prolonged close contact with someone who is already symptomatic.
Even so, we have taken this situation very seriously from
the very start.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
No guarantees dog so you can guarantee no American well
catch US virus from these returning passengers.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
There are no guarantees in life.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
We're putting as many measures in place as possible to
ensure that people are safe and healthy and we keep
the community seef and healthy as well. I don't know
why this is such a big story anyway. Finally, this morning,
the pop star to Alipa has filed a fifteen million
dollar US lawsuit against Samsung for alleging it used her
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image on packaging for its TVs without her permission. Her
lawyers claimed Samsung's packaging was designed to improperly capitalize on
her hard earned success.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
analysis early edition with Bryan Bridge and Spark for Business
Technology that keeps Business moving.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
News Talks a bur Ridi your text this morning, nine
ten ninety two is the number to text our ridgi
your text from my friend. It was sent at six
to Zho nine pm last night. Wtf is all this
handa virus expletive? This is somebody who doesn't have anything
to do with the news. What is all this handa
virus expletive? They send in the bridge ten thousand kilometers
away to a remote colony to drop a patients supplies.
(04:05):
W TF? Also, why is it this leads the lead
story on the news when there's no threat to the public.
Again w TF. I'm reading between the lines and either
it's about to kick off or they are doing it
on purpose because of how up and URMs we get
about anything that resembles COVID. Quite insightful, I thought, and no,
it's not about to kick off. I think it's the latter.
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Anything it sounds like, looks like, moves like sniffs like COVID.
Let's lead with that. Let's get to the Malti party
for a second party, Maldi because yesterday you might have
seen or heard in the news about Mariomino Kapakini who's
starting her own party and breaking away. And then there
was a story that ord in Any Kaipitter, who used
(04:47):
to work at TV three now a Maulti Party MP
for Tommacky Mikoto for Rooklyn, that she was also going
to break away. There'd be a double breakaway from party Maldi. Well,
then last night there was a statement from order Any
and Party Malordi saying, I want to correct the narrative
that is being reported about me this evening by media.
I confirm that the comments claiming to be mine are not.
(05:11):
The comments were to stuff I did not and have
not spoken with any reporter on this matter. So very
curious that, I mean, the reporter is not one from
what I can see, to make things up. But there
we are. Typically I remain a committed member of the
party Malori, et cetera, et cetera. So put any going nowhere.
Apparently finally this morning before we get to we will
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get to the UK shortly, but you know, the energy
price crunts that's going on. We had yesterday a little
press conference from the Prime Minister and the Finance Minister
and Jane Jones, which laid out who's important in New
Zealand in order of preference, and I'll get to that
in about twenty minutes. But over in India, Mody's had
(05:52):
his say and he's saying, we want you to do
working from home. We want you to limit your foreign travel.
He's basically saying we need to cut our fuel use
a very dependent on diesel is the backbone fuel of
the Indian economy, and they import about ninety percent of
their oil. And he's saying, go and use public transport,
use the metro car pool. And he's even told farmers
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that you need to cut in half the amount of
fertilizer that you're using. So things a lot more dire
over there than they are here, you can be sure
of that. Twelve after five and The Brady Live from
the UK. Next on Starma News Talks EDB.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
On your Radio and online on iHeartRadio Belly Edition with
Ryan Bridge and Spark for Business Technology that Keeps Business
Moving News Talks EDB five fourteen.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
By the way, this is a couple of reasons why
Trump has called the Iranians response to his peace proposal
stupid and worth putting in the garbage. They included things
like compensation for war damage. That's never going to happen.
It's a non starter. Also, they wanted the Ranians to
claim sovereignty over the straightupor moves never going to happen.
That's a non starter. Nitt and Yahoo's to come out
(07:01):
and see the deal is well. There will be no
deal until the uranium is handed over oil prices, responded accordingly, Brian, Now,
I'm denarded whether to do this, but I'm about to
play you twenty eight seconds of secure Starmer and that
for a lot of people would probably be a turn off. However,
it's important I do this because he is literally fighting
for his job this morning.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
I know I have my doubts, and I know I
need to prove them wrong, and I will. Like every
Prime Minister, I've learned a lot in the first two
years in the job in terms of the policy challenges
that our country faces. Incremental change won't cut it on growth, defense, Europe, energy.
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We need a bigger response that we anticipated in twenty
twenty four.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Fifty five Labour MP's now the number according to Sky
that one'm gone joining us in the brady Are UK
correspondent in a good morning, good evening to you.
Speaker 9 (07:59):
Good morning to you Ryan. Great to speak again, my friend.
How long do you think he's got I think until September.
He survived today, so there's no clear challenger. Nobody has
stuck their head of the parapet and said I'm a
cabinet minister. I will lead this party and this country
better back me and Sack Starmer. None of them have
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had the guts to do that today. I've literally come
from London from my studio. I had one of Starmer's
friends in the studio with me, a labor loyalist, and
she said to me on air, that's the kind of
speech I wish he'd given two years ago. So there
is still some support. The party split, and I think
it's split three ways in terms of who comes next
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or who they want to come next. But he has
survived Day one.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I was watching Lorrain Beavis in Pay for Blackpool Northern
fleetwood House sid For our party to rediscover its connection
with working class communities like mine, we need a democratic
contest involving the most talented leaders. A kebnet appointment with
that consulting party and the movement would risk repeating the
same mistakes already made. Do you agree.
Speaker 9 (09:06):
Look, Labor do things very differently. The Conservatives love a
bit of regicide they get rid of a leader when
they were in charge that they did it every few weeks.
I mean they'd three prime ministers in a year if
you can believe Liz Trusts famously being outlasted by a Lettus.
I think what Labour need to do now is to
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coalesce around one serious challenger. The best person for the job,
I believe isn't even a member of Parliament. This is
Andy Burnham, the mayor of Manchester, a very good leader,
a good communicator, previously a Cabinet minister and someone from
the North of England who will get those working class
communities back on side. But for him to get in
he needs to become an MP and then challenge Starmer.
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There are other names in the frame. The Health Secretary
Web Streeting apparently fancies his chances. So does Angela Rayner,
the former Deputy Prime Minister. But there's an issue over
her tax affairs. She's waiting to be cleared on that.
So Starmer has time, but he needs to start delivering.
Working people in the UK are struggling, they're angry, and
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then you've got Nigel Farage telling them that come vault
from me. I'll sort all your problems. That's the conundrum.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Indo Brady, a UK correspondent, good to Tavy on the
show This morning is always eighteen minutes out of five.
Bridge Charmer was asked by the Way about burn and
Andy Burnham from the North could he return as an
even paid because of course it was blocked by the
Labor Party And.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
He's doing a great job as mayor in Manchester. And
I actually work really well with Andy, and I'll give
you two examples on Northern Powerhouse rail, which is really
important for the Northwest. But equally we stood together to
support Manchester the community when we had the terrible attack
on a synagogue last year. Andrew was the first person
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I phoned and I went straight to Manchester to work
with him on our response and we work very well together.
But the actual decision be one for the NEC and.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
We're feeling inspired. Nineteen after five news t'd be coming
up next. Who do you need? Who do you call
when you need help? Buying a first home?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Before the news breaks? Here it first Ryan Bridge on
early edition with spark for business technology that keeps business moving,
news talks the'd.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Be It is twenty one after five new number out
this morning for you. Half of all first home buyers
expect help from the bank of Mum and Dad when
they are going for their first home. This is a
one choice Kiwi Housing survey. It's only five hundred New Zealanders,
but half of them reckon they're skipping medical appointments to
pay their rent. One third of renters think they are
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cold and damp. Their cold and damp home is making
them sicker. Luke Somerville is Renters United President, joins us
this morning.
Speaker 10 (11:41):
Hey Luke, good morning.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Well do you reckon most renters are saving for a house?
Do most renters actually want to own a house?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Well?
Speaker 10 (11:50):
I think I think a lot of people that's the dream,
just because renting is so I was going to say,
can swear pronyway, it's not great. Look, it's not great.
People aren't having a good time, and so for a
lot of people, the only way to get out of
that is to buy their own home.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
And the thing with property prices is that now they
are much lower than they were a couple of years ago,
particularly in some of our biggest cities, I mean everywhere
bar Queenstown basically, So it should in theory be easier
now than it has been in recent times.
Speaker 10 (12:23):
Yeah, I mean you might say that, but the issue
that we if you look at the long view over
the last ten years, I mean, I think it's said
twenty one percent since twenty twenty. But even with when
we're talking about rents, I just want to draw your
attention to you know, its rate. It's increased by two
hundred and fourteen, so fifty and ten years for rents,
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So it's gone up a lot over a long time.
And that's why I read is a feeling squeeze.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
And what do you think driving that, Luke? Do you
think that that is regulation? Do you think that that
is a lack of supply? And if it's a lack
of supply, why don't we have enough supply?
Speaker 4 (13:00):
A good question.
Speaker 10 (13:00):
I mean I think I think it's a lot of things.
Lack of supplier is a really big issue. Like for now,
I'm sure you've seen there's been a big glut in
the construction industry. So I mean what what we're seeing
often is just renters are just paying more and more
money for the same, you know, damp, drafty homes. It's
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our housing stock is really basically decaying as a country.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
What about the changes to healthy homes that was meant
to make them all nice and spick and span. Is
that not the case?
Speaker 10 (13:33):
Well not really unfortunately. I mean there's there's a lot
of loopholes and basically there's just not enough oversight and
enforcement really. So what we do see is a lot
of people, you know, they go tic, tach tech, all good,
and then you know you find out, oh, well, why
your renters you know, getting crooks from mold and all
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the rest of it, and really no one's kind of
checking to make sure that these things are actually getting
followed through. That's a big issume.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Look do you reckon if we put more regulation and
more taxes, if we did interest deductibility, do you think
that would mean we have more supply of rental properties
or less?
Speaker 10 (14:12):
Well, look, I think we need to look at our priorities, right,
I mean the problem here renters feel like they're getting
cons because our rents are barely moving or increasing actually,
and then landlords are getting this two point nine billion
dollar handout in tax breaks. I mean, what if we
use that money to build more. I don't know, community
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housing coming order whatever, that would actually increase the play
and that would low rents. But this money has just
gone straight into their pockets.
Speaker 11 (14:42):
I mean.
Speaker 10 (14:43):
And the problem again we we've got as renters, right,
is that you know, MPs on average have about two
point two homes I think national last time I checked
all throughout together of them one hundred and thirty six,
and I think that's before we found out the car belts.
Bates forgot about his twenty five properties in the trust.
So you know, we're not really addressing the root cause
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of the issue.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Right, all right, Logan, I have to leave you there.
I appreciate your time this morning. That's Luke Somerville, Rents
United President. I'll get to a response on that after
five thirty. In about fifteen minutes this morning, it's twenty
five after the early.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
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Speaker 2 (15:24):
It's twenty seven minutes half to five. I was going
to talk to you about the fuel rationing situation, but
having just spoken to Renders United, I think we need
to address this issue and knock it on the head.
The interest deductibility annoys me because it is a cost
of doing business, and like it all lough that it
is a business. Providing a place, a warm drive place
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for people to live, which is what the vast majority
of landlords in this country do, is a business. And
in any business, you get revenue and from that revenue
you deduct your expenses. Now, one of the expenses a
landlord incurs is the cost of funding the asset that
they have purchased. It is the interest, So you deduct
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the interest from your revenue, and then you are taxed
on the remainder, just like any other business. No different.
This is not a handout to landlords. It is simply
a cost of doing business, always has been, always should
be until labor gets in again. When they reckon, they'll
probably bring it back. It is a cost of doing business.
If you make business more expensive, then you either reduce
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the incentive to do the business. I take away the
number of rental properties that are available to people, thereby
pushing up the price the very thing our guest was
wanting to avoid, or you make it more expensive and
the price goes up equally. So sitting there and arguing
and saying we need to have more regulation. We need
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to have more taxes, We need to do more. More
and more is only going to discourage the very thing
you want to encourage if price is your primary con Soon,
Ryan Bridge by twenty nine News Talks, Hebb We're going
to get to Australia next. We'll speak to Leslie. Yeomen's
big budget day across the Tasman for charmers, and they
(17:10):
reckon he's going to do a bit of a tax
lolly scramble for working people two hundred and fifty bucks
a year. However, there are already questions about your tax
break creep and how much of that you'll actually get
in the hand in real terms. We'll head to Leslie next,
and then before six o'clock this morning we will talk
(17:30):
to Andrew get Us about the muddy Omeno Kappa Kingy situation,
what happens for the makeup of Parliament. All ahead News Talks.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
At b.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
US and Views you Trust. To start your day. It's
early edition with Ryan Bridge and Spark for Business Technology
that Keeps Business Moving US Talks.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
B twenty four.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Away from six News Talks, there'd be before six o'clock
a new chapter in the Shambalic novel, that is to
party Maldi will get to the Aussie budget, which is
happening today in a few minutes time. First, the most
interesting thing about the fuel ration plan has actually nothing
to do with fuel rationing. If you read the Q
and A, the script from the Minister's office provided and
you quickly realize this thing will probably never see the
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light of day in any practical sense. Trump would need
to drop a nuke for us to get there, essentially.
But what the plan spells out clear as day are
the most important industries, businesses, and government agencies in the country,
the ones that actually matter, top of the list literally
first in line for a one hundred percent fuel allocation,
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not that we'll get there. Ambulances, fire, an emergency and police.
Tell me the last time these guys were given proper
resources to do their jobs effectively. Paramedics are now, according
to the union, being asked to do cleaning. They're being
told not to change the sheets on gurnees after every
patient to save on laundry. The union recons they're not
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fully funded and they must often go cap in hand
to keep themselves running in a float. The firefighters spend
as much time striking for adequate trucks to fight the
fires as they do while fighting the fires. And as
for police, yesterday we learned a third of resignations are
due to officers being poached by the Aussies for better pay.
Some of the stuff is funded by levies, some by taxes,
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the rest is just well not funded properly at all.
This is not a cry for more taxes to fund them,
but rather a suggestion, a helpful suggestion, dear listener, that
anything not on the critical list is where you would
start cutting costs. What the government has just done, wittingly
or not, is tell us exactly what keeps this country running.
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It's not a fuel rationing list as much as a
blueprint for who is actually important. Emergency services, food to
keep your bellies full, freight farming, airport roads. We should
be directing resources towards them and cutting red tape around them.
That surely would be one of the smartest ways that
we could get the country back on track. Ryan Rich,
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She's go to our reporters Cullum and dned In morning.
Collen morning, right, who's running in the by election?
Speaker 12 (20:20):
Well, we've got fourteen candidates running here and voting closes
today in this by election sparked by the unexpected death
of counselor and former mayor Jules Radick. Among those fourteen
Aaron Hawkins, who served nine years on the council, three
of them as mayor, before losing too Radick in twenty
twenty two. Two other former experienced councilors also in the running,
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Andrew Wiley and Bill Acklin. And so the polls close
at midday today, Ryan, the Council will be operating a
special drive through voting option in the Octagon this morning
to collect votes from cars. If you haven't cast your
vote yet, A prelim result should be known tomorrow, with
the final result on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
All right, how's your weather?
Speaker 12 (21:00):
Chance of shower through the day today? So easterly is
gusty at times fourteen, the.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
High she is calum and clear on christ which morning, clear,
Good morning. You've got a new NICU.
Speaker 7 (21:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (21:11):
The NKU, the neonatal intensive care unit here, was opened
in two thousand and five with forty four cots. Since then,
we know Canterbury's populations grow more than twenty five percent
and that ward ends up at capacity most days. We've
heard stories like a woman who gave birth to twins
and the two babies were in different NICU units at
different parts of the country. Our Health New Zealand has
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committed almost fourteen million dollars to an upgrade of our unit.
Maya Foundation is coming to the party with the rest.
This will allow fourteen more cots. Christchurch Hospitals NICU director
Bromwin Dixon says sixty mothers were transferred out of the
region last year, so this will be a game changer.
I mean people can stay closer to their families. She says,
they'll be able to look after more babies more safely
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without shipping mums around the country.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
How's your weather frosty to start.
Speaker 13 (21:59):
Cloud developing the evening as Southwestern is picking up at
a high seventeen.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Nice one clear. Thank you Jordan for Wellington, Jordan, good morning,
good morning. What's going on with the amalgamation there or
some counsils in the region appear to be more eager
than others. Mayoral leaders continue discussions last week on regional
reform after the government set a three month deadline for
amalgamation proposals from councils. Potado is Anita Bakers as the
region needs to be smart and work together and as
(22:23):
far as she's concerned, Potador is full steam ahead, while
Carpety meyor Janet Hullborough says the area is currently thriving
on its own. She says, it's happy to sit there
have the conversation here of any benefits, but at the
moment it's not looking likely. All right. How's the weather, Jordan,
cloudy periods northwesterly is turning suddenly in the afternoon a
hive of sixteen degrees. Nice one, thank you, and Neva
(22:44):
has aukad news for us this morning where two Pack
and Saved supermarkets and breech fair trading rules and the
ComCom is coming for them.
Speaker 14 (22:50):
Yes, that's right, the old ComCom. So those two supermarkets
all Pack and Save Silverdale, Hamilton's Pack and Save Mill Street.
Now they have plea to guild two offenses. Now this
is stemming from pricing errors. So the Commerce Commissioned prosecutor,
that's Nick Flanagan. He says, Pack and Save mung Andy
was fined seventy eight thousand dollars for similar breaches. Now
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this happened in twenty twenty, which didn't prompt any changes,
so now he's seeking a penalty starting point of one
hundred and sixty thousand dollars each, with discounts possible for
pleading guilty. Now the matter was heard in court last week,
was sentencing held until next month. So watch this carefully,
all right, very good?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
How's our weather?
Speaker 14 (23:32):
Scattered rain easing tonight, southeasterlyes are strong and exposed places.
Today's high seventeen here in auclar.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Very good, Neiva, thank you very much. Eighteen minutes away
from six year On news talks, there'd b and I
can tell you you know, the other day we're talking
about AI and hacking, and it was sort of like, oh,
is the hacking going to get really bad? AI plus
hacking equals bad. And there's a new report from Google
out this morning. They are saying hacking is now going
to get itself on. In fact, it all already is
(23:58):
heading towards an industrial scale threat because you have criminal groups,
You've got gangs, You've got those bad people linked to China,
North Korea and Russia who are using commercial models, your
Gemini clawed open AI. They are using these tools to
enhance to scale up their cyber attacks. So good luck,
(24:21):
will eighteen away from six charmers fifth budget details.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Next International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of
Mind for New Zealand Business got it to Section.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
News Talk the be Jim Charmers his fifth budget. The
announcement will come tonight. There'll be sweetness included. Though he's
got to watch inflation, doesn't he Leslie Yeoman's Australia correspondent
with US Leslie Good Morning.
Speaker 14 (24:45):
Morning Ryan.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
Yes, he does have to watch inflation, and that's what
he's been told by the Reserve Bank because they're worried
about inflation and that's one of the reasons why they
again in increased interest rates last week. One of the
things that has been sort of muted that is going
to happen tonight when he does release the budget is
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that we're going to be spending more than three billion
dollars on an onshore fuel security reserve. People are saying
that a billion liters being an onshore reserve isn't enough,
but the money is going to be spent anyway. More
than seventy million dollars is going towards a counter terrorism
online center. Apparently more money also to be spent on defense,
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but also what they're planning on doing to try and
to save money. Is going against a pre election promise
by Prime Minister Anthony Albernizi. They're going to change apparently
the capital gains tax discount that's going to be eased.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
At the moment.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
People who hold an investment for more than twelve months
a property and then sell it, they get a fifty
percent discount on that capital gains on the profit they make.
But apparently they're going to change that, and a lot
of people who who own investment properties are probably not
going to be too happy about that.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I certainly not. Will there be happy workers? Is the
truth in this working Australian tax offset are two hundred
and fifty bucks a year from next year? Is that
going to happen?
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Look it could people Are people going to be happy
about it? Look at the moment, the way the economy
is in the way the cost of living is, people
aren't really happy about much at all because it's really
hitting people hard. It'll help a little bit, but to
be honest, no one is ever going to be really
happy with the way things are going because everything is
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just so expensive at the moment.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, good point, And then you go vote one nation,
don't you. I appreciate your time this morning, Leslie. Yeomans
are Australia correspondent. It is thirteen minutes away from six
Bryan Bridge. Lady, I mean a Kapa king E. This
is THEPATHI Malei MP now going to run essentially as
an independent under the banner of t Tai Takodo. That's
really up north. There are loose suggestions that she could
have others joining her. She says she's open to calls
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from either side of the aisle this.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Morning, despite political preference and party and so on. If
you see a moment where people are genuine, and I
want to be genuine, you make the most of those moments.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Andrew Gettis is Otanga University law professor joins us this morning. Andrew,
good morning, great to have you on the program.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Yeah, good morning Ryan.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
So what does this mean for Parliament.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
At the moment? Nothing? Mona mino Kappa KINGI has I mean,
technically she's still a Teparty Mari MP as a result
of the High Court decision overturning her expulsion from the party.
But she's basically been acting as an independent. She hasn't
been caucusing with the Tapati Mari. She's been in an
office sort of, not with the rest of the caucus.
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So at the minutes she'll remain in Parliament essentially as
an independent, which is what she's been even though she's
still under the teparty MO label.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
And they're not going to walk a jumper because it's
too close to the election, right.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Yeah, Well, first of all, they'd have to expel her
from the party again, so they'd have to go through
their internal constitutional processes, and as the High Court showed,
their constitutions a mess and it's actually very hard for
them to use their expulsion powers, so they'd have to
do that first, and then they'd have to go through
the walker jumping processes in Parliament, and by that time
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parliament's probably broken to the election anyway. So there's pretty
much no point.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
There's a perverse sort of outcome to this, isn't there.
The Party Mari overhang benefits the Left block. If Labor
sweeps up the Maori seats some or all of them,
that overhang doesn't happen.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Yeah. Well, so there's two baths for that. First of all,
there's if Labor wins all the Maori seats, then any
votes that are cast for to party mari or for
this new Toe Total Growl party or any other party
with a Mariy basically a wasted they just won't count
and that could be you know, two percent, three percent
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could be enough for the close election to basically switch.
Then the other bet is that if to party Marii
or another Marii party, when the electorate seats with a
very low party vote, those seats could become overhand seats,
which increases the size of Parliament, which then increases the
number of MPs you need for a majority. So there
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is this oddness that year Labor would love to get
the Marti seats back, but if they do, that could
sort of come at the cost of them having enough
seats overall to be able to form government.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Interesting stuff. Andrew get Us at Tagi University law professor
with us this morning on Mario Ameno, Kapakini and The Independent.
It is ten away from six from yesterday's pressa with
Nichola Willis, the Finance Minister on fuel rationing.
Speaker 11 (29:50):
Everyday in New Zealanders would still be able to buy
fuel at the pump, They just wouldn't be able to
buy as much at once as they used to.
Speaker 14 (29:57):
We're going to have to be pragmatic.
Speaker 11 (29:59):
And actually, if we're in phase four and the whole
world has had a massive disruption and the availability of fuel,
we would be asking New Zealanders to apply common sense
and to do well by their fellow New Zealanders.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Basically a lucy goosey, you choose your own adventure plan.
There's no hard and fast until you get to level four.
And getting to level four is, to quote the briefing document,
highly highly unlikely. Hey, very quickly interesting. What's happening over
in the US travel wise? The Canadians avoiding the US
(30:35):
come hell or high water because of Trump in his
second term. So border crossings down twenty five percent. But
they've got these researchers over there that contract cell phone
data and they reckon that there's been a forty two
percent drop in the number of Canadians visiting US cities.
Isn't it crazy? The stuff that they can watch and calculate.
They used to go to New York, Hampshire, Vermont, Las
(30:56):
Vegas when it was cold and wintry, in which it
is a lot of the time. They go to Florida.
Not happening as much anymore. Immigration enforcement, border crackdowns, and
of course they don't like the fact that Trump said
that they would become the fifty first state of America.
News Talks, he'd b eight to six.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Ryan Bridge on early edition with Spunk for business Technology
that keeps business moving News TALKSB News Talks.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Heb it is six minutes away from six. There's an
art detective. What a cool job he's made. A big find.
A painting that was stolen from a Jewish art collector
by the Nazis during World War II? Found in the home.
Where did they find it? In the home of the
descendants of the person who took it? Quite a notorious
Dutch collaborator with the Nazis. A portrait of a young girl.
(31:45):
It's called belonged to a Jewish art collector who died
while fleeing the invasion of the Netherlands back in nineteen forty,
left behind the collection of more than one thousand paintings.
Still no word whether it's been returned to the family,
who have obviously been looking for it for some time.
Ryan Bridge, Mike's in the studio Morning, Make Morning, See
(32:05):
three Big News. Three Ministerial aids have quit to urge
starm around the big news.
Speaker 15 (32:10):
Is they didn't get eighty something and there's no coupe. Yes,
that's the big news.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
So they're not to eighty yet. I think they're up
to fifty five. Yeah, but it's it's not telethon. That's
three more than when I started this show an hour ago.
Speaker 15 (32:21):
It's it's got a lack of heft behind it, basically,
doesn't it And if Andy Bonham was in the Parliament
and the whole different story game, isn't it doesn't it
say something? There are four hundred I think from memory
there's four hundred and two in his caucus and there's
not a single one of them that anyone's looked around
the room and gone, you're it. Four hundred people and
(32:44):
they can't find us.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
And the one name they're banding about is where's streeting?
He read his resume? Yes, yes, local borough council turns
national poet forty three years old.
Speaker 15 (32:56):
And Angela who's got the Texas It's pathetic anyway, we'll
talk about that. I watched did you see the I
felt so sorry for the Prime Minister and Nikola Willison
Shane yesterday because you knew where it was going laying
out that four point plan. The critical part of the
four point plan is we're on one and we will
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never get.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
To three or four, far less two totally.
Speaker 15 (33:20):
But they worked the way through it, and then we'll
do this and the truck will turn up, but the
car won't be there. And then then of course all
the journalists start gay, well, hold on, what have you
got an orange car on a Tuesday? And it's just like,
oh my god.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
But to be fair to them, I mean, there's no
rationing before the level four that will never get to exactly.
Speaker 15 (33:39):
I think they've done extremely wrong. I think that's the
great story everyone's forgotten we've done. You know you talk
I heard you talk about India. Yeah, And I mean,
we haven't got a problem in the world. We're never
going to have a problem.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
And you and I aren't car pooling to work in
the morning, Ryan, And to be fair, I wasn't worried
about that. But if we were, you'd be pecking me
up in your car, wouldn't you, because you wouldn't be
seen dead in my station wagon.
Speaker 15 (34:02):
I certainly wouldn't. Now I've seen your station wagon. I'd
rather walk anyway. We'll Shane Jones is on the field
this Morning, good Stuff, have a.
Speaker 10 (34:10):
Great day, better money.
Speaker 9 (34:15):
I dropped.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
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