November 11, 2024 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Ryan Bridge Full Show Podcast for Tuesday 12th of November, it's a big day in the capital as the Government is set to deliver the national apology to survivors of abuse in care. Survivor Jim Goodwin speaks to Ryan ahead of the apology.
Fonterra is selling its consumer products businesses – why, and how much would it cost? Forsyth Barr Senior Analyst Matt Montgomerie joins the show.
It's Cup Day in Christchurch. Councillor Jake McLellan speaks to Ryan about what this day means for the city.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge new
for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,
New Zealand's furniture, Bands and a playing store newstalgs dB.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Good morning, it is six after five year old news
Talk said be welcome for four to six this morning,
our lead interview, the government apology to those abused in state.
Here is happening today. Ponterra looks like it's selling its
Anka Carpany brands, things like that. Who's going to buy them?
Plus Australia is struggling to figure out what the truth is.
(00:36):
I'll tell you more about that later in the show.
Plus supposedly sexist Donald Trump appoints another woman to a
top job.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
But it's Tuesday, the tenth of November. Japan's Prime Minister
Shigeru Iseshiba will stay in the top job this after
he won a vote in parliament he was required to
have one. Remember after the election, it's been less than
thirty days. The coalition government lost the majority it held
for twelve years after that snap election that he called
bad idea that was at the start of October. But
(01:07):
he's held in there. Cheers in private US prison companies
have risen this after Donald Trump announced Tom Hoeman will
be in charge of all deportation of illegal aliens back
to their country of origin. This is the borders are
He's a Fox News contributor to this guy. Meanwhile, the
races on for who will be the next Senate majority
(01:27):
leader after Republicans flipped it in the election. Rick Scott,
he's your rich senator that Elon Musk is backing. He's
the pick.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
I'm very optimistic. I believe I'm going to win, you know,
doing in corner and our friends. Here's where I bring
to the teaple. I clearly believe in the Trump agenda.
Number one. I need business guy that has success doing
exactly what we need to do in the Senate.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Sounds like he's got the job. The timing of germans
expected election could be delayed because of a lack of
paper for the ballots. We told you last week the
government collapsed up for Chancellor Ola Schultz, fied, a key minister.
If a vote of no confidence goes ahead and the
opposition once one, he'd probably lose. This means new elections
early next year. Now. The head of the Electoral Commission,
(02:11):
Ruth Brand, says it's bad timing because quote, we have
Christmas and then New Year, and then there might not
be enough paper available for the documents to be printed.
There has been a backlash to her comments, and Poland
has offered to sell them some paper. An eighteen year
old park worker has died while working to extinguish a
wildfire in New York.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
It's heart breaking, It's very unfortunate.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
You know.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Wildland fire floting is one of the most dangerous jobs
someone can have.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It's ten percent contained at the moment, burning through more
than three thousand acres, one of several wide wildfires burning
across the northeast of the United States.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
Get ahead of the headlines, Ryan Bridge you for twenty
twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand,
furniture beds and a playing at store news talks.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
It'd be more evidence that owes are bad and social
media is anything but social. This is a study from
Age Concern and a fifty nine percent of participants. This
is people over the age of sixty five, so nearly
sixty percent had recently felt lonely or socially isolated. Nothing
surprising there, We know older people do get lone thirty
(03:20):
percent experience loneliness often or always, which is sad. Seventy
five percent of lonely older adults used social media doesn't help.
In fact, if you had social media, you were more
likely to feel more lonely. So it's almost like you're
looking out the window and you can see what other
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people are doing. It looks like everybody else is having
a good time, and you're sitting in there at home alone,
feeling more lonely because of it. So just throw the
phone out the window. I would say, It's funny, isn't it,
Because yesterday we talked about diabetes and how bad that is,
and the rates are going up. And we're just weird species,
(04:02):
aren't we. We're human beings. We're innately lazy. You know.
We give us more choice and more freedom and phones
and access to information and all the food in the world,
you know, more information, more choice, and more freedom than
we have ever had in our history. And what do
we do with the wealth and the things? We eat
ourselves to death. We stay on the couch, we look
(04:23):
at our screens, and we leave poor old granny to
fend for ourself. It's a sad little world we live in,
isn't it. Anyway, that's a happy thought for your Tuesday.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
Ten after five, Ryan Bridge, here's some good news if
you own bitcoin, do the price is still surging after
Trump came in eighty two thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
They have served two overnight. In addition, the dollar in
the US is still strong. Stocks are on track to
continue their record run. Shares of Tesla and Trump Media
have both risen sharply after the bell this morning over
in New York, along with the banks as well. They're
also having a good time. Eleven minutes after five, We're
going to look at that Fonterra potential sale of those
(05:06):
Fonterra brands. Right after this.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
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News Talk said, be thirsting after five on news Talk
said b tom Holm. And the guy I mentioned just
a few minutes ago who served in Trump's last administration.
Trump has now picked him to be his quote border czar.
He's going to be responsible for deporting these so called
illegal immigrants into the United States. He has told Democrats
to get the hell out of our way. We have
(05:52):
a mandate to make this change, he also says, revealing
on Fox News, where he's been a contributor for about
four years. He also said on Fox News is that
he has received death threats since his job was announced overnight.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I've been often grid for three days.
Speaker 8 (06:07):
It's because I couldn't handle all the phone cars and
plus of the death threst rulin. And my family's not
at home right now because that's starting. But now that's
something we're gonna deal with. The I can bully me away,
theyre I can shut me up, then I can make
me go away. This is the biggest national security vulnerability
this nation is since is ninety eleven.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
We have to fix it.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Rich Fonterra has confirmed it's going to sell some consumer businesses,
including brands like Anchor, Mainland and Carpety. The sale could
potentially bring in billions for the dairy co Op put
it up to three billion. To decide how to sell
the businesses, either through a direct sale or an IPO,
all cards are kind of on the table. Matt Montgomery
is with Forsyth Bar. He's a senior analyst equities there. Matt,
(06:51):
good morning, come on, No, thanks for having me, Thanks
so much for being with me. First of all, who
do you think would buy this?
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Yeah? Water, A lot of water's going to the bridge.
Clearly they see yesterday they've received meaningful buyer interest in
the businesses and as you mentioned, that's either through there
were trades and if that was the case, I would
expect it to be the more akin to the large
dairy companies like Nestle to known Black Palace or they
(07:21):
have also mentioned an IPO. And the other thing I'd
add is there could be multiple buyers that play here too.
There's every chance it's not cut into one one large sale.
There could be multiple buyers.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
So you could have Meslade taking Cappity and then another
big boy.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
Maybe not quite that level of granularity, but they are
talking about Australia, then the consumer brands and some businesses
in Sri Lanka, so there are different ways that it
could be cut.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah. What are the benefits of an IPO.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Yeah, I think the important thing there from a point
of view, would be able to continue to have judgment
and access of those key businesses for New Zealanders and
shareholders alike. It's clearly been a relatively denying period in
the listed market for i PO so that would be helpful.
(08:18):
Whereas if there was a trade salf and you could
envisage that possible buyers, there could be reasonable synergies for
those businesses through sales and distribution where they already have
quite established networks globally.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Why did we why did Fonterra, I should say, invest
in and start and purchase some of these businesses in
the first place. What was the theory?
Speaker 5 (08:46):
The idea was to shift the strategy towards value our
products and to realize more value per drop of milk
for farmers. Essentially, I think ultimately, if we look back
through time, the human businesses haven't delivered the level of
returns and earnings that view that farmers and shareholders would
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intimately expect. And that's a combination of challenges to operate
three different milk pools. If you think about Frontier's business
with food service, ingredients and consumer and also just lack
of scale when you're looking to launch a number of
brands and a number of different jurisdictions around the world,
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it creates challenges with respect to the level the cost
space that you need to invest in the business for
the revenue that you can generate. So we think focusing
on the core business be it food service and ingredients,
as were in Frontier's Future Best Lives?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Was value add a fad because we were told, weren't
we that we needed to add value to the still
told actually we need to add value to our you know,
our commodities and order that we get ahead as a country,
et cetera. Is this shown that perhaps the experiment hasn't worked.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Yeah, I wouldn't have had the fam I mean, the
other companies have been successful. But yeah, like I say,
there is Fontierra haven't been as successful as they would
like through a number of years now. It hasn't just
been one or two challenging periods. It's been a prolonged
period of time. But it has worked for other businesses,
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and that's why we see other buyers as ultimately better
owners of these brands.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Potentially three billion dollars. What happens to the money they
sell them?
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Yeah? Fontierra has stated that they're targeting a significant capital
return if you look at Fontira's balance sheets, and a
very good, very good chance, as good as it ever
has been. So you know, we would expect the large,
large majority of the capital returns to ultimately be returned
to farmers through probably a special dividend of some kind.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Thanks so much for your time. Matt Montgomery, who's the
Forsyth Bar senior analyst Equities with us talking about the
sale of fon Terra's well potential sale and it would
be some time in the future, potentially a year before
this goes ahead of its consumer businesses. Brands like Anchor
Mainland Carpety are worth up to three billion bucks. Nineteen
after five, Y're on news Talks. He'd be it is
(11:22):
a big day Trodden Cup date in christ Church today.
We'll look at that.
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News Talk zidby.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Twenty one after five, Welcome to you Tuesday morning. A
big jet plane land in Auckland yesterday. I'll tell you
more about that shortly. Who was in it? Why is
everyone talking about it right now?
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Though?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
It's the New Zealand Trodden Cup date at Addington Raceway
and christ Church today. The races are a big event
in the city's calendar, with hope it'll bring in plenty
of visitors and terrorism. Jake McClellan's a christ Church counselor.
He's with us this morning. Jacob morning, good morning. How's
how's your looking? I'm good? Thank you.
Speaker 9 (12:04):
Yeah, look it's it's looking like it's going to be
an all right day. But I mean, regardless, it's going
to be it's going to be a great day. Obviously,
Tuesday is the biggest, the biggest Cup and show week
event on the calendar.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It looks like it's going to be a great one.
Tell me about the races today, what's happening and who's
going to win? What's your picks?
Speaker 9 (12:27):
Oh jeez, no, I'm I'm not getting down to the
races today, so I can't say I'm going to take
a punt.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I'll prospect a few, suspect a few around here at
my place. Will be we'll be watching.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
What you mean, you're not going what's more important than this?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Well, well, counsel brief things unfortunately.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
But.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
What's your brief things about? Surely you can skive off
for the afternoon.
Speaker 9 (12:52):
I think the mayor is going to skive off. He's
the only one who gets to skive off and a
teen race day. Unfortunately, we'll be we'll be watching the plot.
Make sure he's not not a way for too long.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
No, look, it's it's it's.
Speaker 9 (13:04):
A great event and it's a massive deal for the
Caterbury economy. Yeah, and we just hope that everyone behaves themselves.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Ah, you're a bit worried about people being a bit boozed.
Speaker 9 (13:17):
It has been an issue in the past, but the
event organizers and police have made some real strides.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
In recent years.
Speaker 9 (13:24):
So hopefully it's a good day with not too many
perverse consequences.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
What's it worth to the region, denaw to Christ It I.
Speaker 9 (13:34):
Don't know off the top of my head. I mean
I think every every you know, every regional holiday has
is pretty significant in terms of as a bit of
a precursor. Well, certainly for us, it's a precursor into
that that summer spending, you know, whether it's field Days
or any other of the regional holidays. You know, it's
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a big deal locally, particularly particularly given how long Cup
and Show Week go for. So yeah, it's a substantial deal.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
All right, big deal. Goezy on the booze, Jake, thank you,
Jake McLellan, Christ Judge councilor. Twenty four minutes after five
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Nine two is the number to text Donald Demyo coming
to us from Australia shortly Australia's pursuing an AI and
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social media regulation. Also having trouble discerning what the truth is,
which is crucial because they're currently doing a misinformation disinformation
bill through Parliament. We'll talk about that plus the abuse
in state care apology at two o'clock this afternoon.
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B Good Morning New Zealand. It is twenty four minutes
away from six year on News Talk, said b Donald. Tomorrow,
our Australia correspondent is with us in just a few moments. Also,
Jim Goodwin, he's an abuse survivor. That big apology going
down at Parliament today. What will it mean for the victims.
(18:02):
We'll talk about that. We were just talking about COP
twenty nine. This is the Climate change conference. It's taking
place in Azerbaijan. Guess who's not there. Greta Thunburg. She
wanted to protest outside the conference, but she can't get
into Azerbaijan because they closed the land borders and she
doesn't want to fly. I think they closed the land
borders on purpose, so all of the protesters wouldn't come.
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But the thing with Greta is she was hard enough
to hear the message the first time round. But now
she's expanded her causes this. She's written a piece for
The Guardian. She's talking not just about climate change now,
but about genocides, ecosides, famines, wars, colonialism, rising inequalities, escalating
climate collapse. They're all interconnected crises that reinforce each other
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and lead to unimaginable suffering. I'm sorry. Too many things
on the go, Greta. You lost me at Ecoside. Too
many things on the go. Twenty three away from six
Ryan Bridge. Let's got a Colum Proctor who's in Dunedin
this morning. Colen, Good morning morning, right City Council is
there expecting to get an update today? This investigation into
(19:09):
the chief executive. What's happening?
Speaker 10 (19:13):
Okay, So I'm just switching to that story. It's a
very good question that you ask. So this is about
Sandy Graham, who has previously apologized to a staff member
following an investigation by a King's Council. The scope of
the investigation into Graham's being kept quiet. The ODT those
(19:35):
reporting the Council refused to disclose the terms of reference.
An extraordinary meeting, closed to the public is due to
be held by the Council at four this afternoon. The
agenda refers to an update from a decision making committee.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
All right, okay, we'll wait till we get an update
later on this afternoon. How's where they come? Fine and
fifteen today brilliant, Thank you Claires and christ Church clear
Cup Day in christ Church and the tickets cheaper than
ever before.
Speaker 11 (20:00):
Yes, Ryan, big day here in christ Church. And yes
the tickets are cheaper. In fact, tickets have almost halved
in cost. That decision was made a little while ago.
They've dropped from forty dollars to twenty five. Of course,
Cup Day is very much a highlight of our calendar
here Racing, Entertainment, fashion, the whole lot. The Addington Raceway
CEO Brian Thompson says the decision about dropping the cost
(20:21):
to get into Cup Day was about improving accessibility. It
certainly looks to have paid off. He says that GA
sales are up about ten percent. He thinks it's about
Cantabrian's wanting a reason to dress up and celebrate and
the ticket prices have allowed a lot more people to
do that. Of course, it is the one hundred and
twenty first running of the Trotting Cup today. For those interested,
last year's winner, Australian horse Swayze, is the favorite. The
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gates open at eleven this morning. The big one, the
Trotting Cup itself, runs at five forty six pm.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
All right, sounds good. How's the weather for the Cup?
Speaker 11 (20:54):
Well, it will be a little cloudy to start, but
that should clear to find. Northeasterlies will pick up from
around midday and be fresh for a time this afternoon.
The high those seventeen.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Nice one, enjoy it clear. Let's go to mex Toll
in Wellington. Mes Lindsay McKenzie, the Crown of Zuvera, who's
being named sounds like a pretty sensible choice. Sensible.
Speaker 12 (21:12):
Yeah, there were calls for someone more, I guess high
profile at least in terms of the media spotlight. But
Lindsay McKenzie, the former Chief executive of the Tasman District
Council Gisbon District Council, now appointed to oversee Wellington's dysfunctional
city Council. Minister Simeon Brown specifically pointing to mackenzie support
of the Invercargo City Council when it was having problems
(21:35):
of its own. Apparently he's good with numbers, good with finances,
and not before time. Mert Tori Fano, expressing the need
to appoint someone quickly once that initial decision was made.
She's coming on incidentally, Nick Mills on Wellington Mornings after
ten this morning. The problem at the city council obviously
the long term plan being thrown out the window with
the backtracking on selling airport shares, also councilors walking out
(21:57):
of meetings, heated meetings, dispute on advice, whether the advice
counselors were getting was fair and balanced. Mackenzie gets to
council tomorrow. He'll be there until next July.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah, it was interesting timing seven months in the job
and then we'll basically be at election times, so he'll
be there and holding their hand to get them through
the election. How's the weather today.
Speaker 12 (22:19):
Yeah, exactly, mostly fine. Today's southerly's getting up to twenty brilliant.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Thank you, Max Navas and Auckland Neva. Good morning morning.
Now the hospitality sector there's stoked with all of the
concerts that have been going on exactly.
Speaker 13 (22:31):
You know, they reckon, there's a wave of energy here
in Auckland. I think so too. There's a really cool
vibe this week weare there's warm, a lot of people
going and obviously we're talking about Pearl Jam playing the
two shows last week, and cold Play have got three
shows at Eden Park the first tomorrow. Are you going?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
No, I'm not going either, and.
Speaker 13 (22:50):
Producer Lego we must be the only three people in
Auckland not going. I know so many people going to
one of those concerts, and you know the hotels have
booked out. Steve Armata now he's a hospitality in Zed
chief executive, and he says, look, as we know these events,
he liked the life bloodline of the bars and cafes,
and we need all that money for accommodation. Bloody blah
(23:11):
blah blah, he says, investment in line.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Do you like that?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Bloody blah blah blah ah, renting and raving and so these.
Speaker 13 (23:20):
Live performances, he reckons. Recent research shows that for every
dollar invested in live shows returns three dollars twenty There there.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
You go, interestingly, for people who are coming to Auckland
for these concerts. Yes, how's your flights going? Nine to
nine to the numbers? Text My family came up, my
sister in law and brother in law. Yeah, came up
for the Pearl Jam and had to drive through the
night because the flight was canceled from Parmeston North, the
last flight out of Palmiston North there, So they had
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to drive through the night to get to Auckland. And
I just wonder we're there. New Zealand's issues with its
planes and its engines and stuff? How many? How expensive
is it to get here? And are you have having
problems with flight cancelations? Is everyone driving you know, midnight
through the desert road?
Speaker 13 (24:04):
Oh my gosh, well that probably is that name because
they were saying O blo blah blah blah.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
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According to text on newsbook, deb it is Tuesday morning,
Donald to mays Our, Australia correspondent on a good morning,
Good morning, is elbow pecking a fight with Trump over
social media?
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Kind of but not really.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
No, it's a case of what am I making this
story sound more interesting than it is.
Speaker 14 (24:39):
It's a case of what happens next, isn't it really
there's all questions being asked in the aftermath of that
election win. So Australia is I suppose reassuring the federal government,
I should say, is trying to reassure the Australian public
that it will still pursue AI regulation, social media regulation,
despite as it says that Trump administration opposing it. It's
(25:02):
going to push through with these regulations in these areas.
And we heard from the Industry Minister, Ed Husseick. Now
the minister says that he needs to reassure Australians that
he and his government will pursue what it calls the
national priorities. And we know that Trump is promising to
roll back AI regulation while Australia is saying we are
(25:23):
going to develop. The federal government says what they've described
as guard rails for high risk uses of AI. For instance,
there's going to be some new laws and also they're
looking at their social media policies as well, and the
minister says the public expects action in these fields. He says,
where possible, Australia will work with other countries. But if
(25:47):
we need to it will be localized and that will
be pursued and to quote the Minister, we need to
take these steps necessary so that people can have the
confidence to actually use AI into the future. Are very
interesting comments to be made.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
What type of guard rails are they talking about?
Speaker 14 (26:04):
How do you're afraid you'd ask that things like being
able to have human intervention and oversight. For instance, when
we are using AR, you.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Want, of course, you want a human if it starts,
you know, I don't know if the computer starts fizzing,
blowing up or shooting people. You want a human to
be able to press the button and.
Speaker 14 (26:23):
Turn it off, not to sensationalize in any way.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Shape or forn. Hey, Australia's first Anti slavery Commission has
been appointed.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
What is this?
Speaker 14 (26:32):
This is a very serious matter. Of course, there's an
estimated forty one thousand people living in modern slavery in
Australia and so we have heard from the government and
they've appointed the former Labor Senator Chris Evans, and he's
going to address these exploitative practices. We're talking about deceptive recruiting,
we're talking about debt bondage, we are talking about forced marriages,
(26:53):
human trafficking and forced labor. It's a five year term
for the former Immigration and Workplace Relations Minister. And we
also heard from the Attorney General who said that of course,
modern slavery deprives the victim of the dignity, fundamental rights
and freedom.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
All right, Donald, thank you very much for that. Donald.
To our Australia correspondent. It is seven sorry, twelve minutes
away from six Bridge. The Government's national apology to victims
of abuse in state care will take place today. It
comes along with a bill with a raft of new
changes for protecting people that are currently in state care,
which will pass its first reading today. It'll ban strip
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searches of children and youth justice facilities. It'll create harsher
restrictions for people working with kids and enforce better record
keeping by government agencies, which has been a key theme
or a failure, I should say, of those who've submitted
on the Royal Commission, Jim Goodwin is an abuse survivor.
He's with us this morning. Jim, good morning, Good morning, Ron.
(27:53):
Thank you for being with me. How are you feeling today, Ah, nervous?
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Are you thinking about it?
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yeah? This is this is a huge thing. For a
huge number of people.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, why nervous.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Ah, I hope they don't stuff it up. The potential
for a government to make yet more mistakes around survivors
and around care is massive.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Stuff up the apology or stuff up now the ones
who are currently in care.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
That they won't stuff up the apology that will be
that will be well done, I think, But continuing to provide,
how will they provide support for survivors and what will
they do about preventing abuse and care in the future.
That's what I'm worried about.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
The compensation issue. There's been some criticism that they haven't
got that sorted before the apology. Does that bother you
or are you more worried about them doing it right
when they do it.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Conversation is important, but it's only part of what survivors need.
Survivors need to be able to access ongoing support, like
counseling support for their lives, and that's quite difficult for
a lot of survivors at the moment. So I hope
that the government will change that. But conversation is only
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a part of it.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, that's fair enough for those who have been abused
in state care or in faith based institutions in a school,
stuff like that, who have then gone on to offend.
What is your view on that? Because the society is
grappling with this question right about somebody who's been abused
It was there nothing to do with their not their fault.
(29:48):
They were placed in a situation and they go on
to offend. Do they get should they get more leniency?
What do you have a view on that?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
It's offending abuse as a factor in offending, maybe some
people should get leniency. Unfortunately, the bad people also claim
that they have had a terrible life and that's why
they've offended. What would be better is to provide people
who have been abuse with support. And I'm thinking I
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mentioned counseling before and that will reduce the risk of offending.
I treated its source.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Not at the other end, what about boot camps?
Speaker 3 (30:31):
That terrible idea, terrible idea never worked, will never work,
based on a false premise that you can knock people
into shape, a really bad idea.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
What do we do with these kids then?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
If possible, well, if possible, we should work prodigiously to
keep them at home. Even if their home is pretty wonky,
it's still the home. It's what they know so you
work to port the faros, support the people who care
about them, and try to keep people at home. Institutions
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should be an absolute last resort.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Your abuse took place at Christ's College back in the
nineteen seventies and it was from other students. Yeah, what
do you want to say to the people who abused you.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Ah, they know who they are, they know what they did. Yeah,
they can live with it. Jim.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I've gone on.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
I've gone on to live my life.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Jim. Jim, thank you very much for your time this morning.
I really appreciate it. Okay, thank you, Jim Goodwin their
abuse survivor the apology happening at Parliament this afternoon.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
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Speaker 2 (31:54):
Away from sex. Lots of text about the flight from
Palmerston North to Auckland a family member of mine. It
was canceled at the last minute. There's all these concerts
going on in Auckland and because of the aircraft issues
and some engineering issues, flights are getting canceled and people
are driving through the night. Ryan. My return flight to
Auckland from Wellington this Thursday, costing me seven point fifty return.
(32:16):
The last flight out of Palmston North says another is
notoriously unreliable known. I've known several people on different occasions
that will be canceled that we're on that flight. So
there's a song in that. The last flight out of
Pami to Australia. Albanize's misinformation bill that we've spoken about
before missing some quite crucial information and that is how
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you tell what is truth and what is not truth.
So the idea is that they set up this bill
and they will empower the federal authorities to force the
tech giants to act on alerts about damaging falsehoods or
lies on the internet. The lawyers who have submitted on
this bill say, actually, how do you tell what is
truth and what is not truth? The bill does not
(32:57):
address that. So there's some problems there are away from
six Now Mike's here next, Hey, Mike morning.
Speaker 15 (33:02):
The numbers came out yesterday on reliability of planes and
so here's your problem with facts. The problem is they
only do the competitive roots Auckland, Wellington, Christy, et cetera, Queenstown.
They don't do international So the stories you hear, and
I've heard as many stories as you have, and we
all know the stories there were. Stories you hear are
the regional New Zealand stories, which they don't measure because
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there's no competition in the market, and they don't measure internationally.
Hear a lot of international stories about planes. I mean,
I had to buy a bloke, for example, who was
leaving on the one o'clock to Sydney the other day
but didn't leave until seven o'clock and that's not uncommon,
so that's a hang on.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
So in New Zealand doesn't measure like a parmy all.
Speaker 15 (33:40):
No, no, because there's no competition, so there's nothing to measure.
So when you look at the cancelation, it's down at
one point something percent. In other words, most planes take
off on time and land on time.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Sounds like misinformation.
Speaker 15 (33:52):
Well it's lacking the full detail, is what I'm saying.
Christopher Luxean's on this morning on the head of the
Apology this afternoon, and look.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Forward to Mike's next see tomorrow, veryone, Have a great day.
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Good morning, it is six after five year old news
Talk said be welcome for four to six this morning,
our lead interview, the government apology to those abused in state.
Here is happening today. Ponterra looks like it's selling its
Anka Carpany brands, things like that. Who's going to buy them?
Plus Australia is struggling to figure out what the truth is.
(00:36):
I'll tell you more about that later in the show.
Plus supposedly sexist Donald Trump appoints another woman to a
top job.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
But it's Tuesday, the tenth of November. Japan's Prime Minister
Shigeru Iseshiba will stay in the top job this after
he won a vote in parliament he was required to
have one. Remember after the election, it's been less than
thirty days. The coalition government lost the majority it held
for twelve years after that snap election that he called
bad idea that was at the start of October. But
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he's held in there. Cheers in private US prison companies
have risen this after Donald Trump announced Tom Hoeman will
be in charge of all deportation of illegal aliens back
to their country of origin. This is the borders are
He's a Fox News contributor to this guy. Meanwhile, the
races on for who will be the next Senate majority
(01:27):
leader after Republicans flipped it in the election. Rick Scott,
he's your rich senator that Elon Musk is backing. He's
the pick.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
I'm very optimistic. I believe I'm going to win, you know,
doing in corner and our friends. Here's where I bring
to the teaple. I clearly believe in the Trump agenda.
Number one. I need business guy that has success doing
exactly what we need to do in the Senate.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Sounds like he's got the job. The timing of germans
expected election could be delayed because of a lack of
paper for the ballots. We told you last week the
government collapsed up for Chancellor Ola Schultz, fied, a key minister.
If a vote of no confidence goes ahead and the
opposition once one, he'd probably lose. This means new elections
early next year. Now. The head of the Electoral Commission,
(02:11):
Ruth Brand, says it's bad timing because quote, we have
Christmas and then New Year, and then there might not
be enough paper available for the documents to be printed.
There has been a backlash to her comments, and Poland
has offered to sell them some paper. An eighteen year
old park worker has died while working to extinguish a
wildfire in New York.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
It's heart breaking, It's very unfortunate.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
You know.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Wildland fire floting is one of the most dangerous jobs
someone can have.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It's ten percent contained at the moment, burning through more
than three thousand acres, one of several wide wildfires burning
across the northeast of the United States.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
Get ahead of the headlines, Ryan Bridge you for twenty
twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand,
furniture beds and a playing at store news talks.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
It'd be more evidence that owes are bad and social
media is anything but social. This is a study from
Age Concern and a fifty nine percent of participants. This
is people over the age of sixty five, so nearly
sixty percent had recently felt lonely or socially isolated. Nothing
surprising there, We know older people do get lone thirty
(03:20):
percent experience loneliness often or always, which is sad. Seventy
five percent of lonely older adults used social media doesn't help.
In fact, if you had social media, you were more
likely to feel more lonely. So it's almost like you're
looking out the window and you can see what other
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people are doing. It looks like everybody else is having
a good time, and you're sitting in there at home alone,
feeling more lonely because of it. So just throw the
phone out the window. I would say, It's funny, isn't it,
Because yesterday we talked about diabetes and how bad that is,
and the rates are going up. And we're just weird species,
(04:02):
aren't we. We're human beings. We're innately lazy. You know.
We give us more choice and more freedom and phones
and access to information and all the food in the world,
you know, more information, more choice, and more freedom than
we have ever had in our history. And what do
we do with the wealth and the things? We eat
ourselves to death. We stay on the couch, we look
(04:23):
at our screens, and we leave poor old granny to
fend for ourself. It's a sad little world we live in,
isn't it. Anyway, that's a happy thought for your Tuesday.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
Ten after five, Ryan Bridge, here's some good news if
you own bitcoin, do the price is still surging after
Trump came in eighty two thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
They have served two overnight. In addition, the dollar in
the US is still strong. Stocks are on track to
continue their record run. Shares of Tesla and Trump Media
have both risen sharply after the bell this morning over
in New York, along with the banks as well. They're
also having a good time. Eleven minutes after five, We're
going to look at that Fonterra potential sale of those
(05:06):
Fonterra brands. Right after this.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
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News Talk said, be thirsting after five on news Talk
said b tom Holm. And the guy I mentioned just
a few minutes ago who served in Trump's last administration.
Trump has now picked him to be his quote border czar.
He's going to be responsible for deporting these so called
illegal immigrants into the United States. He has told Democrats
to get the hell out of our way. We have
(05:52):
a mandate to make this change, he also says, revealing
on Fox News, where he's been a contributor for about
four years. He also said on Fox News is that
he has received death threats since his job was announced overnight.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I've been often grid for three days.
Speaker 8 (06:07):
It's because I couldn't handle all the phone cars and
plus of the death threst rulin. And my family's not
at home right now because that's starting. But now that's
something we're gonna deal with. The I can bully me away,
theyre I can shut me up, then I can make
me go away. This is the biggest national security vulnerability
this nation is since is ninety eleven.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
We have to fix it.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Rich Fonterra has confirmed it's going to sell some consumer businesses,
including brands like Anchor, Mainland and Carpety. The sale could
potentially bring in billions for the dairy co Op put
it up to three billion. To decide how to sell
the businesses, either through a direct sale or an IPO,
all cards are kind of on the table. Matt Montgomery
is with Forsyth Bar. He's a senior analyst equities there. Matt,
(06:51):
good morning, come on, No, thanks for having me, Thanks
so much for being with me. First of all, who
do you think would buy this?
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Yeah? Water, A lot of water's going to the bridge.
Clearly they see yesterday they've received meaningful buyer interest in
the businesses and as you mentioned, that's either through there
were trades and if that was the case, I would
expect it to be the more akin to the large
dairy companies like Nestle to known Black Palace or they
(07:21):
have also mentioned an IPO. And the other thing I'd
add is there could be multiple buyers that play here too.
There's every chance it's not cut into one one large sale.
There could be multiple buyers.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
So you could have Meslade taking Cappity and then another
big boy.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
Maybe not quite that level of granularity, but they are
talking about Australia, then the consumer brands and some businesses
in Sri Lanka, so there are different ways that it
could be cut.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah. What are the benefits of an IPO.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Yeah, I think the important thing there from a point
of view, would be able to continue to have judgment
and access of those key businesses for New Zealanders and
shareholders alike. It's clearly been a relatively denying period in
the listed market for i PO so that would be helpful.
(08:18):
Whereas if there was a trade salf and you could
envisage that possible buyers, there could be reasonable synergies for
those businesses through sales and distribution where they already have
quite established networks globally.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Why did we why did Fonterra, I should say, invest
in and start and purchase some of these businesses in
the first place. What was the theory?
Speaker 5 (08:46):
The idea was to shift the strategy towards value our
products and to realize more value per drop of milk
for farmers. Essentially, I think ultimately, if we look back
through time, the human businesses haven't delivered the level of
returns and earnings that view that farmers and shareholders would
(09:06):
intimately expect. And that's a combination of challenges to operate
three different milk pools. If you think about Frontier's business
with food service, ingredients and consumer and also just lack
of scale when you're looking to launch a number of
brands and a number of different jurisdictions around the world,
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it creates challenges with respect to the level the cost
space that you need to invest in the business for
the revenue that you can generate. So we think focusing
on the core business be it food service and ingredients,
as were in Frontier's Future Best Lives?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Was value add a fad because we were told, weren't
we that we needed to add value to the still
told actually we need to add value to our you know,
our commodities and order that we get ahead as a country,
et cetera. Is this shown that perhaps the experiment hasn't worked.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Yeah, I wouldn't have had the fam I mean, the
other companies have been successful. But yeah, like I say,
there is Fontierra haven't been as successful as they would
like through a number of years now. It hasn't just
been one or two challenging periods. It's been a prolonged
period of time. But it has worked for other businesses,
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and that's why we see other buyers as ultimately better
owners of these brands.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Potentially three billion dollars. What happens to the money they
sell them?
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Yeah? Fontierra has stated that they're targeting a significant capital
return if you look at Fontira's balance sheets, and a
very good, very good chance, as good as it ever
has been. So you know, we would expect the large,
large majority of the capital returns to ultimately be returned
to farmers through probably a special dividend of some kind.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Thanks so much for your time. Matt Montgomery, who's the
Forsyth Bar senior analyst Equities with us talking about the
sale of fon Terra's well potential sale and it would
be some time in the future, potentially a year before
this goes ahead of its consumer businesses. Brands like Anchor
Mainland Carpety are worth up to three billion bucks. Nineteen
after five, Y're on news Talks. He'd be it is
(11:22):
a big day Trodden Cup date in christ Church today.
We'll look at that.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
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News Talk zidby.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Twenty one after five, Welcome to you Tuesday morning. A
big jet plane land in Auckland yesterday. I'll tell you
more about that shortly. Who was in it? Why is
everyone talking about it right now?
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Though?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
It's the New Zealand Trodden Cup date at Addington Raceway
and christ Church today. The races are a big event
in the city's calendar, with hope it'll bring in plenty
of visitors and terrorism. Jake McClellan's a christ Church counselor.
He's with us this morning. Jacob morning, good morning. How's
how's your looking? I'm good? Thank you.
Speaker 9 (12:04):
Yeah, look it's it's looking like it's going to be
an all right day. But I mean, regardless, it's going
to be it's going to be a great day. Obviously,
Tuesday is the biggest, the biggest Cup and show week
event on the calendar.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
It looks like it's going to be a great one.
Tell me about the races today, what's happening and who's
going to win? What's your picks?
Speaker 9 (12:27):
Oh jeez, no, I'm I'm not getting down to the
races today, so I can't say I'm going to take
a punt.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I'll prospect a few, suspect a few around here at
my place. Will be we'll be watching.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
What you mean, you're not going what's more important than this?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Well, well, counsel brief things unfortunately.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
But.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
What's your brief things about? Surely you can skive off
for the afternoon.
Speaker 9 (12:52):
I think the mayor is going to skive off. He's
the only one who gets to skive off and a
teen race day. Unfortunately, we'll be we'll be watching the plot.
Make sure he's not not a way for too long.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
No, look, it's it's it's.
Speaker 9 (13:04):
A great event and it's a massive deal for the
Caterbury economy. Yeah, and we just hope that everyone behaves themselves.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Ah, you're a bit worried about people being a bit boozed.
Speaker 9 (13:17):
It has been an issue in the past, but the
event organizers and police have made some real strides.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
In recent years.
Speaker 9 (13:24):
So hopefully it's a good day with not too many
perverse consequences.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
What's it worth to the region, denaw to Christ It I.
Speaker 9 (13:34):
Don't know off the top of my head. I mean
I think every every you know, every regional holiday has
is pretty significant in terms of as a bit of
a precursor. Well, certainly for us, it's a precursor into
that that summer spending, you know, whether it's field Days
or any other of the regional holidays. You know, it's
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a big deal locally, particularly particularly given how long Cup
and Show Week go for. So yeah, it's a substantial deal.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
All right, big deal. Goezy on the booze, Jake, thank you,
Jake McLellan, Christ Judge councilor. Twenty four minutes after five
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Speaker 3 (14:22):
Have you?
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That's the value of our new climate change tab from
COP twenty nine. The Climate change conference this year, all
the officials, the politicians, the experts, the industry, every man
and his dog has foun to Azerbaijan to lecture everybody
not in the room about climate change. And they're already
cranking the classics through the stage speakers. We're at a
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turning point, the Paris Agreements at a crucial tipping point
because Donald Trump's going to pull out, even though we've
been through this crucial tipping point before. Last time he
was in our house, is burning all the classics. This
is the problem with COP insert number here. No one
really listens. Every year they make the same pilgrimage and
give the same speech, and every year we shrug our
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shoulders and wonder why doesn't the number ever match the year?
Shouldn't it be COP twenty four? Oh well, back to
them all for another coffee at Robert Harris. I also
need to pick up some presents from Kmart for the
grandkids this Christmas. Things to do. If the definition of
insanity is doing the same thing every year, over and
over and expecting a different result, than these guys are
(15:30):
beyond nuts. The big push this year is finance. They
wanted rich country supposedly like ours, to pay one hundred
billion dollars a year to poor countries to stop them
from burning coal and adapting to climate change by twenty twenty.
Well we missed that goal, and now they want a
trillion dollars a year. That's one thousand billion, or four
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Elon musks. Despite all the talk and flying around in
threats and end of day's speeches, global emissions went up
last year, reaching record levels. Do we care about climate change? Yes,
enough to change our habits in a major way. No,
we keep electing leaders to fix other things like inflation,
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and until that changes, or all of our houses actually
do catch fire, will be at them all down at
Robert Harris not listening to Azerbaijan Ryan Bridge on twenty
eight minutes after five. We'd love your feedback this morning.
Nine two is the number to text Donald Demyo coming
to us from Australia shortly Australia's pursuing an AI and
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social media regulation. Also having trouble discerning what the truth is,
which is crucial because they're currently doing a misinformation disinformation
bill through Parliament. We'll talk about that plus the abuse
in state care apology at two o'clock this afternoon.
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B Good Morning New Zealand. It is twenty four minutes
away from six year on News Talk, said b Donald. Tomorrow,
our Australia correspondent is with us in just a few moments. Also,
Jim Goodwin, he's an abuse survivor. That big apology going
down at Parliament today. What will it mean for the victims.
(18:02):
We'll talk about that. We were just talking about COP
twenty nine. This is the Climate change conference. It's taking
place in Azerbaijan. Guess who's not there. Greta Thunburg. She
wanted to protest outside the conference, but she can't get
into Azerbaijan because they closed the land borders and she
doesn't want to fly. I think they closed the land
borders on purpose, so all of the protesters wouldn't come.
(18:25):
But the thing with Greta is she was hard enough
to hear the message the first time round. But now
she's expanded her causes this. She's written a piece for
The Guardian. She's talking not just about climate change now,
but about genocides, ecosides, famines, wars, colonialism, rising inequalities, escalating
climate collapse. They're all interconnected crises that reinforce each other
(18:48):
and lead to unimaginable suffering. I'm sorry. Too many things
on the go, Greta. You lost me at Ecoside. Too
many things on the go. Twenty three away from six
Ryan Bridge. Let's got a Colum Proctor who's in Dunedin
this morning. Colen, Good morning morning, right City Council is
there expecting to get an update today? This investigation into
(19:09):
the chief executive. What's happening?
Speaker 10 (19:13):
Okay, So I'm just switching to that story. It's a
very good question that you ask. So this is about
Sandy Graham, who has previously apologized to a staff member
following an investigation by a King's Council. The scope of
the investigation into Graham's being kept quiet. The ODT those
(19:35):
reporting the Council refused to disclose the terms of reference.
An extraordinary meeting, closed to the public is due to
be held by the Council at four this afternoon. The
agenda refers to an update from a decision making committee.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
All right, okay, we'll wait till we get an update
later on this afternoon. How's where they come? Fine and
fifteen today brilliant, Thank you Claires and christ Church clear
Cup Day in christ Church and the tickets cheaper than
ever before.
Speaker 11 (20:00):
Yes, Ryan, big day here in christ Church. And yes
the tickets are cheaper. In fact, tickets have almost halved
in cost. That decision was made a little while ago.
They've dropped from forty dollars to twenty five. Of course,
Cup Day is very much a highlight of our calendar
here Racing, Entertainment, fashion, the whole lot. The Addington Raceway
CEO Brian Thompson says the decision about dropping the cost
(20:21):
to get into Cup Day was about improving accessibility. It
certainly looks to have paid off. He says that GA
sales are up about ten percent. He thinks it's about
Cantabrian's wanting a reason to dress up and celebrate and
the ticket prices have allowed a lot more people to
do that. Of course, it is the one hundred and
twenty first running of the Trotting Cup today. For those interested,
last year's winner, Australian horse Swayze, is the favorite. The
(20:44):
gates open at eleven this morning. The big one, the
Trotting Cup itself, runs at five forty six pm.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
All right, sounds good. How's the weather for the Cup?
Speaker 11 (20:54):
Well, it will be a little cloudy to start, but
that should clear to find. Northeasterlies will pick up from
around midday and be fresh for a time this afternoon.
The high those seventeen.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Nice one, enjoy it clear. Let's go to mex Toll
in Wellington. Mes Lindsay McKenzie, the Crown of Zuvera, who's
being named sounds like a pretty sensible choice. Sensible.
Speaker 12 (21:12):
Yeah, there were calls for someone more, I guess high
profile at least in terms of the media spotlight. But
Lindsay McKenzie, the former Chief executive of the Tasman District
Council Gisbon District Council, now appointed to oversee Wellington's dysfunctional
city Council. Minister Simeon Brown specifically pointing to mackenzie support
of the Invercargo City Council when it was having problems
(21:35):
of its own. Apparently he's good with numbers, good with finances,
and not before time. Mert Tori Fano, expressing the need
to appoint someone quickly once that initial decision was made.
She's coming on incidentally, Nick Mills on Wellington Mornings after
ten this morning. The problem at the city council obviously
the long term plan being thrown out the window with
the backtracking on selling airport shares, also councilors walking out
(21:57):
of meetings, heated meetings, dispute on advice, whether the advice
counselors were getting was fair and balanced. Mackenzie gets to
council tomorrow. He'll be there until next July.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah, it was interesting timing seven months in the job
and then we'll basically be at election times, so he'll
be there and holding their hand to get them through
the election. How's the weather today.
Speaker 12 (22:19):
Yeah, exactly, mostly fine. Today's southerly's getting up to twenty brilliant.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Thank you, Max Navas and Auckland Neva. Good morning morning.
Now the hospitality sector there's stoked with all of the
concerts that have been going on exactly.
Speaker 13 (22:31):
You know, they reckon, there's a wave of energy here
in Auckland. I think so too. There's a really cool
vibe this week weare there's warm, a lot of people
going and obviously we're talking about Pearl Jam playing the
two shows last week, and cold Play have got three
shows at Eden Park the first tomorrow. Are you going?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
No, I'm not going either, and.
Speaker 13 (22:50):
Producer Lego we must be the only three people in
Auckland not going. I know so many people going to
one of those concerts, and you know the hotels have
booked out. Steve Armata now he's a hospitality in Zed
chief executive, and he says, look, as we know these events,
he liked the life bloodline of the bars and cafes,
and we need all that money for accommodation. Bloody blah
(23:11):
blah blah, he says, investment in line.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Do you like that?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Bloody blah blah blah ah, renting and raving and so these.
Speaker 13 (23:20):
Live performances, he reckons. Recent research shows that for every
dollar invested in live shows returns three dollars twenty There there.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
You go, interestingly, for people who are coming to Auckland
for these concerts. Yes, how's your flights going? Nine to
nine to the numbers? Text My family came up, my
sister in law and brother in law. Yeah, came up
for the Pearl Jam and had to drive through the
night because the flight was canceled from Parmeston North, the
last flight out of Palmiston North there, So they had
(23:48):
to drive through the night to get to Auckland. And
I just wonder we're there. New Zealand's issues with its
planes and its engines and stuff? How many? How expensive
is it to get here? And are you have having
problems with flight cancelations? Is everyone driving you know, midnight
through the desert road?
Speaker 13 (24:04):
Oh my gosh, well that probably is that name because
they were saying O blo blah blah blah.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
What got news reader International correspondence with ends in eye
insurance peace of mind for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
According to text on newsbook, deb it is Tuesday morning,
Donald to mays Our, Australia correspondent on a good morning,
Good morning, is elbow pecking a fight with Trump over
social media?
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Kind of but not really.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
No, it's a case of what am I making this
story sound more interesting than it is.
Speaker 14 (24:39):
It's a case of what happens next, isn't it really
there's all questions being asked in the aftermath of that
election win. So Australia is I suppose reassuring the federal government,
I should say, is trying to reassure the Australian public
that it will still pursue AI regulation, social media regulation,
despite as it says that Trump administration opposing it. It's
(25:02):
going to push through with these regulations in these areas.
And we heard from the Industry Minister, Ed Husseick. Now
the minister says that he needs to reassure Australians that
he and his government will pursue what it calls the
national priorities. And we know that Trump is promising to
roll back AI regulation while Australia is saying we are
(25:23):
going to develop. The federal government says what they've described
as guard rails for high risk uses of AI. For instance,
there's going to be some new laws and also they're
looking at their social media policies as well, and the
minister says the public expects action in these fields. He says,
where possible, Australia will work with other countries. But if
(25:47):
we need to it will be localized and that will
be pursued and to quote the Minister, we need to
take these steps necessary so that people can have the
confidence to actually use AI into the future. Are very
interesting comments to be made.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
What type of guard rails are they talking about?
Speaker 14 (26:04):
How do you're afraid you'd ask that things like being
able to have human intervention and oversight. For instance, when
we are using AR, you.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Want, of course, you want a human if it starts,
you know, I don't know if the computer starts fizzing,
blowing up or shooting people. You want a human to
be able to press the button and.
Speaker 14 (26:23):
Turn it off, not to sensationalize in any way.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Shape or forn. Hey, Australia's first Anti slavery Commission has
been appointed.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
What is this?
Speaker 14 (26:32):
This is a very serious matter. Of course, there's an
estimated forty one thousand people living in modern slavery in
Australia and so we have heard from the government and
they've appointed the former Labor Senator Chris Evans, and he's
going to address these exploitative practices. We're talking about deceptive recruiting,
we're talking about debt bondage, we are talking about forced marriages,
(26:53):
human trafficking and forced labor. It's a five year term
for the former Immigration and Workplace Relations Minister. And we
also heard from the Attorney General who said that of course,
modern slavery deprives the victim of the dignity, fundamental rights
and freedom.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
All right, Donald, thank you very much for that. Donald.
To our Australia correspondent. It is seven sorry, twelve minutes
away from six Bridge. The Government's national apology to victims
of abuse in state care will take place today. It
comes along with a bill with a raft of new
changes for protecting people that are currently in state care,
which will pass its first reading today. It'll ban strip
(27:30):
searches of children and youth justice facilities. It'll create harsher
restrictions for people working with kids and enforce better record
keeping by government agencies, which has been a key theme
or a failure, I should say, of those who've submitted
on the Royal Commission, Jim Goodwin is an abuse survivor.
He's with us this morning. Jim, good morning, Good morning, Ron.
(27:53):
Thank you for being with me. How are you feeling today, Ah, nervous?
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Are you thinking about it?
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yeah? This is this is a huge thing. For a
huge number of people.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, why nervous.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Ah, I hope they don't stuff it up. The potential
for a government to make yet more mistakes around survivors
and around care is massive.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Stuff up the apology or stuff up now the ones
who are currently in care.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
That they won't stuff up the apology that will be
that will be well done, I think, But continuing to provide,
how will they provide support for survivors and what will
they do about preventing abuse and care in the future.
That's what I'm worried about.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
The compensation issue. There's been some criticism that they haven't
got that sorted before the apology. Does that bother you
or are you more worried about them doing it right
when they do it.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Conversation is important, but it's only part of what survivors need.
Survivors need to be able to access ongoing support, like
counseling support for their lives, and that's quite difficult for
a lot of survivors at the moment. So I hope
that the government will change that. But conversation is only
(29:25):
a part of it.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, that's fair enough for those who have been abused
in state care or in faith based institutions in a school,
stuff like that, who have then gone on to offend.
What is your view on that? Because the society is
grappling with this question right about somebody who's been abused
It was there nothing to do with their not their fault.
(29:48):
They were placed in a situation and they go on
to offend. Do they get should they get more leniency?
What do you have a view on that?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
It's offending abuse as a factor in offending, maybe some
people should get leniency. Unfortunately, the bad people also claim
that they have had a terrible life and that's why
they've offended. What would be better is to provide people
who have been abuse with support. And I'm thinking I
(30:21):
mentioned counseling before and that will reduce the risk of offending.
I treated its source.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Not at the other end, what about boot camps?
Speaker 3 (30:31):
That terrible idea, terrible idea never worked, will never work,
based on a false premise that you can knock people
into shape, a really bad idea.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
What do we do with these kids then?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
If possible, well, if possible, we should work prodigiously to
keep them at home. Even if their home is pretty wonky,
it's still the home. It's what they know so you
work to port the faros, support the people who care
about them, and try to keep people at home. Institutions
(31:08):
should be an absolute last resort.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Your abuse took place at Christ's College back in the
nineteen seventies and it was from other students. Yeah, what
do you want to say to the people who abused you.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Ah, they know who they are, they know what they did. Yeah,
they can live with it. Jim.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I've gone on.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
I've gone on to live my life.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Jim. Jim, thank you very much for your time this morning.
I really appreciate it. Okay, thank you, Jim Goodwin their
abuse survivor the apology happening at Parliament this afternoon.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture
Beds and a player store, new talk sticks.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Away from sex. Lots of text about the flight from
Palmerston North to Auckland a family member of mine. It
was canceled at the last minute. There's all these concerts
going on in Auckland and because of the aircraft issues
and some engineering issues, flights are getting canceled and people
are driving through the night. Ryan. My return flight to
Auckland from Wellington this Thursday, costing me seven point fifty return.
(32:16):
The last flight out of Palmston North says another is
notoriously unreliable known. I've known several people on different occasions
that will be canceled that we're on that flight. So
there's a song in that. The last flight out of
Pami to Australia. Albanize's misinformation bill that we've spoken about
before missing some quite crucial information and that is how
(32:37):
you tell what is truth and what is not truth.
So the idea is that they set up this bill
and they will empower the federal authorities to force the
tech giants to act on alerts about damaging falsehoods or
lies on the internet. The lawyers who have submitted on
this bill say, actually, how do you tell what is
truth and what is not truth? The bill does not
(32:57):
address that. So there's some problems there are away from
six Now Mike's here next, Hey, Mike morning.
Speaker 15 (33:02):
The numbers came out yesterday on reliability of planes and
so here's your problem with facts. The problem is they
only do the competitive roots Auckland, Wellington, Christy, et cetera, Queenstown.
They don't do international So the stories you hear, and
I've heard as many stories as you have, and we
all know the stories there were. Stories you hear are
the regional New Zealand stories, which they don't measure because
(33:24):
there's no competition in the market, and they don't measure internationally.
Hear a lot of international stories about planes. I mean,
I had to buy a bloke, for example, who was
leaving on the one o'clock to Sydney the other day
but didn't leave until seven o'clock and that's not uncommon,
so that's a hang on.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
So in New Zealand doesn't measure like a parmy all.
Speaker 15 (33:40):
No, no, because there's no competition, so there's nothing to measure.
So when you look at the cancelation, it's down at
one point something percent. In other words, most planes take
off on time and land on time.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Sounds like misinformation.
Speaker 15 (33:52):
Well it's lacking the full detail, is what I'm saying.
Christopher Luxean's on this morning on the head of the
Apology this afternoon, and look.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Forward to Mike's next see tomorrow, veryone, Have a great day.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
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