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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues is the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens
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Well, good morning to you and welcome to your Monday,
and welcome today one of the school holidays, so good
luck and this is my final stint on Early Edition.
Lines back tomorrow on today's program. A new documentary on
the case of Philip Pokinghorn hit our screens this weekend
and it's riveting. We're going to talk to the producer
about the program and why she made it and also
Philip Pokinghorn's reaction to it. Andrew Ordison covers Sport in
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ten minutes and we'll try not to talk about the Warriors.
I'm going to talk about the national headache, which is
the Auckland Harbor Bridge and the government has come up
with a new system to make getting a driver's license
less prohibitively expensive. We're going to talk to the AA
just before six. We're talking to Gavin Gray out of
the UK. We're talking to correspondence from right around New
Zealand and we'll bring you news as it breaks and
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Speaker 1 (01:04):
The agenda.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
It's Monday, the fourteenth of April. Ukraine's State emergency services.
At least thirty four people have been killed in Russian
strikes on the city of Sumi. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky
is accusing Putin of ignoring the USC's fire proposal, and
the strike comes after US Envoy Steve Wikoff met Russian
President Vladimir Putin on Friday to discuss a Ukrainian peace element.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
There is still no agreement between Kiev and Washington over
a potential energy deal, which would see America invest in
Ukraine in exchange for continued military help. That deal is
no closer. Russia is continuing to whole firm on its
demands of the complete occupation of four Ukrainian provinces and
the political capitulation of Ukraine. And so if you are
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a Ukrainian on a morning light today, that idea of
peace feels no closer.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Meanwhile, the United States has decided to exempt some electronics
like smartphones and computers from Trump's reciprocal tariffs. It includes
the one hundred and twenty five percent text on good
supporter from China. The move comes after concerns from US
tech companies that the price of devices could skyrocket because
many of them are made in China.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
The total effective terriff breed on these exempted products, as
best as we can tell, is now back to about
twenty percent, So we're taking those reciprocal tariffs off. But
you know, it has been a very confusing week. You know,
these exemptions are going to affect companies like Nvidia and Dell,
but the big one that we've been watching is Apple.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
And tens of thousands of festival goers braced the sweltering
heat for Coachella weekend in sunny California. The big Friday
night headliner was Lady Gaga, as choreographed by our very
own Paris Goobles. She delighted the crowds with many of
her top hits. But the performance everyone's talking about is
from Benson Boom, who brought out Brian May from Queen
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to perform in Bohemian rapsody. Oh yes, doctor Brian May
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sounding excellent, And you've got to say Benson Boom has
a great set of pipes.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
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You talk sippy, it's stimulus for five. So wisdom Peters, wister.
Peters is a different person depending on where, when and
why you are talking to him. On the election trail.
He's anti immigration, he's anti globalism. He's a conservative populist.
But as Foreign Minister, he knows where our bread is buttered.
We are dependent on free trade and open borders to
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sell as much food as we can. We are polished
subsidies and tariffs back in the seventies when we realize
that the world did not owe us favors and our
food products had to compete on their own, feat on taste,
quality and affordability. So his telling off of the Prime
Minister over the weekend I thought was warranted, as Christopher
Luxon courted public favor by trying to look aggressive in
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his defense of New Zealand in the WTC that's the
World Trade crisis, Winston said, steady On, he's the one saying,
don't poke the American bear. He's the one saying we
don't know where this is going to shake out, and
he's the one who's right. He told the Prime Minister
to call him first, which must be a worry to
national As we move into the second half of the
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electoral cycle, Winnie is no more compliant or tamed as
he's ever been. And have you noticed he always gets
stuck into his coalition partner when Luxon or himself is overseas. Meanwhile,
Tentative feel us of going out to Europe regarding the
mothball Transpacific partnership, and that's a good move too. We're
in the age of deals amongst friends, and if America
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is no longer Europe or New Zealand's friend, then why
shouldn't we help each other? I Meanwhile, in a sad
example that the President of the United States did not
think things through, his administration has announced it will exclude
electronics like smart phones and laptops from reciprocal tariffs. He
knows now that the people will not stand for their
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phones and their computers suddenly doubling in price. Now, he
may claim to be the man for American business, but
he did not realize that all business from the blue
collar to the white are dependent on phones and computers,
things that US manufacturers let China build because China can
build them cheaper. Now, as Anna Fifeld said on the
Telly yesterday, this is a global game of chicken, and
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now Trump has blinked twice. And I don't know if
you've noticed this, but Trump doesn't do one on one
interviews except with Noaan Patsy's. Can you imagine the field
day that Mike Hoskin would have with him and back home.
The government wants to change up our driver's licensing system.
It's looking at a new proposal where new drivers will
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only have to take one practical test instead of two.
Restricted drivers with defensive driving and a clean record will
automatically gain their full after twelve months, but there's a
bunch of conditions, including halving the number of demerit points
you can get, and there will be a zero percent
alcohol breath limit regardless of your age. They're trying to
take away the excessive cost that our new drivers face
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to get a license, a license that is critical for
working life. But you see in doing so, they are
taking away the hours of supervised driving that the kids
have to do. And that is the trade off, and
that's where some people may have trouble with the new system.
Not as much supervised driving, but it is cheaper, so look,
we're going to talk to the AA about this just
before six. But next did you watch it? It's streaming
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on three now, it's streaming, it's playing on Restural TV
on TV three. It's a new documentary about the poking
Horn trial. And it was a fascinating sunday for me.
Going to talk to the producer of that program Next
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Youth Talk, said b as a sixteen minutes out of five.
So last night the new documentary on the poking Horn
trial was released, and you can take a listen right now.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
For thirty odd years, I have been watching wealthy their control.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
Women, but it usually doesn't end in dead.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Can't do a pop on the dot of glue.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Evidence is missing, But it didn't make sease.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I was thinking, his story keeps changing, very very odd.
Speaker 8 (07:49):
It's just snowballing into this incredible spectacle that people just
couldn't look away from.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
All right, Yes, The documentary received two hundred and twenty
eight grand from funding from New zeald on Air. It
follows the eight week trial of Philip Pokinghorn, who was
accused of killing his wife, Pauline Hannah back in twenty
twenty one at Easter too. So this is what the
third anniversary, fourth anniversary. A jury ultimately found poking Horn
not guilty. He walked out of the Court of Free
Man telling a scrum of reporters to let Pauline rest
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in peace. But that's not happening, is it? Because we've
got this new documentary and Polly Fryer is the producer
of it and joins us this morning, Good morning to
your Polly.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
Good morning, how are you great?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
It's a good watch. I have to say, why make it?
Speaker 6 (08:32):
I think it's important to make these stories so that
people can hear particularly from two of the key witnesses
and participants in the case that we didn't hear form
in court, that's Madison Ashton and doctor Philip Polkinhorn himself,
So an opportunity to find out more from their perspective,
and that obviously wasn't presented through the judicial process.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I found it fascinating right from the get go, because
I saw the rope, and I saw the house, and
I saw the bed, and I I've got a fuller
picture of the story.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Yeah, well, that's often the way that documentaries can do
that because we don't have the same you know, we're
obviously not there to prove his guilt or his innocence,
so we have the ability to be able to show
things in much more detail and with much more commentary
from more of the players, and give more detail to
a lot of elements of the case.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Now I've a poking horn later in the series. I've
not got to that point yet. I've only seen the
first one, but later, and this is making the headlines.
He blamed the COVID vaccine for Pauline's death. Is anyone
buying that?
Speaker 6 (09:36):
I think it's clear to say that neither the defense
nor the prosecution mentioned or use the COVID vaccine theory
during the court case, So we can't comment any further
on it. But that's all that we know that it
was never raised as part of the trial.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Okay, he hasn't been found innocent, he was found not guilty.
That's the way the law works. However, you are in
a way relitigating it. Did you have concerns around defamation
while making this story?
Speaker 6 (10:02):
I think that it's quite a balanced documentary, and obviously
there's a lot of Polkinghorn in there himself talking to
us and commenting on the situation. We did ask Ron
Mansfield to participate and doctor Pulkinhorn again after the initial interview,
but both declined, as did dozens of other acquaintances and
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former colleagues of Polkinghorns who we approached. But I don't
think that really we're trying to re litigate it. I
think what we're trying to do is give more detail
on a fascinating subject in a case that is sort
of captured the nation and probably very interesting to others
abroad as well.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yes, and you've got overseas becking as well. I mean,
what does that Sky News UK and Warner Brothers Discovery,
So is this going to play worldwide?
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Nine in Australia have acquired the series, have Sky UK
and then we have a representation for rest of world.
So we'll see how that goes following the New Zealand release.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Especially because the interview with Pokinghorn happened nineteen months before
the trial, so obviously he's wanting to talk to you
and to convince you of his innocence. He has a
quote saying when you and Julia Hartley Moore approached him.
You said you'll be able to help him without any advice.
He trusted you both and what they said to me.
But now he's come out and described his own documentary
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series as tabloid clickbait, and he claims he was misled.
What do you say to that.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
Mark McNeil, the other executi producer, myself weren't on board
the project when Julia and Chris Cook did the interview
with Polkinhorn. Chris Cook has not been involved in the
documentary since the interview was held. Julia is an executive
producer on the series. I think it's been it's clear
even from the text messages in the stuff article that
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we agreed to not air the documentary until after the trial,
So we were never going to be any part of
a judicial process that was questioning his guilt or not.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
But is it tabloid clickbait as he says, After all,
it is a prilliant insight into a world of remiwerra
and hookers and murder and all sorts. I know, so
alleged murder.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
That was his life.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
We're only telling his life as he tells us in
those in his life including Madison Ashton tell it, I
don't think it's flick bait for that. I think it's probably,
you know, portraying a side of life that maybe we
don't see that often. And as Philip himself says, he's
not on trial for morality issues, and we're not trialing
for morality issues either. We're really saying what his life
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was like and what Pauline's life was like in the
time leading up to her passing.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Well, good job is a good watch and I thank
you so much for your time today. That is Polly Fryer,
producer of the new Poking Horn documentary. You can see
it on three now, you can see it streaming, so
you can watch it whenever you like. And as I say,
it's got funding from Sky UK and the Nine Network,
support from New Zealand On and the government's screen production grant.
It is our five twenty one. So the Warriors forty
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two to fourteen us against the Melbourne Storm, seventeen losses
in a row against the storm dating back to twenty fifteen.
A mention all this so I don't have to relive
the horror in a moment with Andrew Ordison, who joins
us next.
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the duel I Suspect Live versus PG. Two and it goes,
you can't write this stuff, can you? Oh, it's going
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well most of it yesterday, and well mackrol is just
he was superb. And I think that eagle on the
fifteenth was the one that got me. And just that
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the quality of the stroke making all the shots that
they produce and a.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Front nine was amazing. Yeah. Yeah, what a killer course,
What a killer course to see. Lidia co said, I'm
so glad the women don't play this because brute. It's brute,
and I don't even think we see the words on television.
I think quite shows the contours as steepness of it
and in the in the I guess the level of
difficulty when you see that and just when you see
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them I expose chipping onto the green or whatever, but
when when it expecting it's almost the two dimensional order,
but you're expecting it just to stop the ball. But
then you see a role and you think, oh.
Speaker 10 (14:23):
Wow, that must be quite a killer slope and if
it goes, yes, indeed, we'll get forward to that.
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Motor Racing V eight's first and miss Matt Pain's our
new Kiwi hero.
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four and yeah, good on him. He's he's really coming
into the realm.
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Know we had McLaren and Aimon and Denny Holm, but
this is another golden earth inw Zealand motivation drivers we'll
look back on.
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Yeah, except Liam had another bad day at the office.
Is Formula one? Can I just point out that he
finished thirteenth, Yes he did, but the cross the line
fifteen But the problem was he'd been driving aggressively and
he bumped into a couple of cars and he had
a whole lot of time penalties, which took him down
to seventeenth. That's right.
Speaker 10 (15:07):
So it was fifteen seconds I think was added to
his tible of it, so that he hit a couple
of classes Nika Holkenberg and was deemed to have I've
been transgressed and so therefore, yeah, was pushed down the rankings.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Spore not good really because he was the last of
the Red Brall crew. Yeah, yeah, so that's bushed him down.
Oh look at this, we ran out of time to
talk about the warriors. Oh well, that's probably a very
good thing, exactly, Thank you, Andrew, and I've said five twenty.
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News Talks B. I'm Andrew Dickins, five twenty seven. So
there was a letter to the editor of the Weekend
about the Auckland Harbor Bridge, which I thought made a
very good point. The writer remarked that the harbor Bridge
as the coat hangar shape it is because it needed
to let freighters in to get to the Chelsea sugar works,
and that is the only reason the bridge go go
up so much and down so much. What a pity
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we didn't move the sugar industry in the fifties, but
mean built the bridge. What a pity. We compromise the
bridge for just one industry and we're going to end
out having to pay for that dearly. It's one of
those things we all forget when we start talking about
a second harbour crossing at a barbecue. Now at the moment,
orkaners will see barges doing geotech in the middle of
the harbor and what they're doing, why they're there. It's
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for a two for two new three lane road tunnels.
A single light rail tunnel is also part of the plan. Meanwhile,
the existing bridge stays and gets lanes for buses and cycling. Now,
what I think we get wrong is that we really
should be talking about replacing the first crossing because it's
at the end of its life. It's time to go
move the sugar works and we could replace the bridge
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with a flatter, wider version that would be wider and
stronger than we've got, giving it a longer life and
not having to do the tunneling, which could be very
expensive and very difficult. And I keep reminding people that
the real problem with the awkward motorway system is the
limits of spaghetti junction and the points at Northcote and
Green Lane Penrose, not the bridge. The bridge actually has
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more capacity, but it has no structural strength. It's old
and bobbly. Now for all of you not in Auckland
wondering why I'm talking about this, it's simple. This will
be the biggest and most complex and most disruptive infrastructure
project this country will see, and we're all going to
have to pay for it, no matter which city we
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live in.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Andrew Dickens, All.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Right, Peter's wrong lucks and right, lots of reaction to that.
More on that to come after Gavin Gray in the UK,
and we'll talk about the new driver's license. This is
early edition and I'm Andrew Dickens.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Andrew Dickens on Early Edition with one roof make your
Property Search Simple, youth Talk, zibby and.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
No good on it to you. Welcome to your Monday.
Thank you for choosing us. My last and on early edition.
Ryan is back tomorrow. He's taking a long weekend. Heather
is back today at four o'clock. Mentioned at the beginning
wister Peter's telling off Christopher Luxe, and I said that,
you know Winster Peter's was right. Textas says no, Peter's wrong,
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Lux and right. It's a succinct little text, Gary says Andrew.
Remember Winston did not phone or discuss with the Prime
Minister before he sacked our ambassador in London. Isn't this
exactly the same thing? Mister Peters thinks he is the
king and he is not. He is doing a fantastic job,
but needs to work as a team with all the
right parties. Thank you so much, Gary. Now, trust in
the news media in New Zealand. The latest aut an
(18:45):
Your survey has come out and apparently it's stabilized all
individual outlets recording improvements and trust. But the trust is
still low. It's at thirty two percent, which is lower
than most other countries. By the way, pre COVID trust
in the New Zealand media fifty three percent, now thirty
two percent. Clear themes have emerged. Most felt they were
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overwhelmed by the news these days and felt it necessary
to disengage from it for their mental health. Many sighted
the overwhelmingly negative tone of news, constant bad news, fear
based content, bit of sensationalism. That's why they avoid us.
One responder was quoted as saying there's far too much
news about American politics and about Palestine, which is depressing.
Another said, I try to Trump talks as much as possible.
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There's a new word for you, trump talks. I find
a man utterly exhausting and devoid of assault, very disturbing energy.
He's hard to escape currently, so I find myself going
near to news generally less and less to avoid the crepe,
to avoid the creep. Meanwhile, apparently we're confused about our
alleged media bias. I'm saying it's too anti government. Some
I'm saying it's too left leaning. Are the saying it's
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all right wing propaganda. All I want to say is
that what I'm doing this job. I just try to
play with a straight bat. It's twenty one to six
around the country. There we go Callum Proctor from Dunedin
and good morning Callum. Hello hello there. Now were you oming?
Were you actually in full Nelson or something? Because big
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yoga gathering in your parts here?
Speaker 11 (20:16):
There was a record gathering actually for a yoga class
here in Duneda yesterday a new New Zealand record was
well and truly set six hundred and twenty three taking
part in a one hour yoga session under the roof
at our Forsyth Bar Stadium here yesterday, so that's a
new national mark. The previous yoga records stood at three
hundred people. That was at Orphan Domain, so we've more
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than doubled that. Got a way to go though to
beat the world record. That's a yoga class of nearly
one hundred and forty eight thousand, but six hundred and
twenty three was a good effort. It was part of
the Wild Dunedan Festival of Nature. The organizers say, look
they're over the moon with the level of interest in
this year's festival, with many of the events.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Sold outlin Karma and were meditated just listening to you,
how's your weather.
Speaker 11 (21:00):
For a start, but some heavy rain develops around midday
suddenly changed the heights today twenty two two.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Christi as we go clear sure, we're good morning to you.
Good morning and a record for you as well in
the christ Church Marathon.
Speaker 8 (21:11):
That's the one record to the other. Well, we've had
over seven thousand people lace up their shoes across all
categories of the christ Church Marathon yesterday. The event director
Callum Nicholson says they are up forty percent on last
year's numbers, he says. While he's delighted, he's not surprised.
He says, it's clear there's a growing reputation around christ
Church and specifically this event. The ten Kill me To
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Loop course ran through the heart of the city for
a third straight year. There were some improvements this year
to better the course. The half marathon was the largest event,
more than three thousand people in that category.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I had a big argument with my dad when he
turned forty and he said I'm going to run a marathon.
And then this big debate about Roto Rua or christ Church.
I said, christ Church flat, Rota Rua hilly, but he
did it Rotal ru So there you go. How's your weather.
Speaker 8 (21:56):
I like someone who takes a challenge to Andrew look
fairly fine. I'm here today a bit of high cloud
Ryan developing much later in the day. The high should
be twenty one.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
He did it in the seventies. He did three hours
twenty six. I was very proud of him. Right, Oh,
Max Tool and Wellington, hellom X, good morning. So Wellington's
ballsed up, moved to get orchids to move south. Yeah,
So a good.
Speaker 12 (22:17):
Story leading the post this morning. As Tom Hunter reports,
One of the mayor's first acts in the job was,
as you say, a bid to persuade auckland Is to
move to the capital. This has come out via official documents.
Wellington and Z were commissioned to put an ad together
that ran in the New Zealand Herald Kyoto Tamakimikoto. It read,
we understand a few of you maybe considering your career options.
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Just a note from us in te Funganuiatada. We're looking
out for talented creative people to help grow our hero
as capital, signed toriy Fano. Needless to say, it was
a bit of a bomb. Twelve emails in response in total.
It doesn't look like anyone took up the offer, only
as Wellington and Z says positive consideration of working in Wellington.
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A counselor who sits on the Wellington and Z board
concedes it was a failure.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Maybe people just didn't understand Tory. Now, how's Wellington's weather?
Speaker 12 (23:10):
It should be fine today, cloudy high of nineteen All.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Right to walkome we go neve rid to man who Hello,
greetings so augand transport at love them. They're replacing trains
with buses for most of the rest of the month.
That is right.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
So what's happening is we've got the upgrades renewal projects
happening right across the network here taking place for the
next fortnight. Now this is to prepare services of obviously
for next year's City rail Link opening and previous closures
some customers they complained about, remember that the lack of capacity.
The bus is going the wrong way and not turning
up on time. So fingers cross it. That will happen.
(23:43):
You know, everything will be okay. AT did say that
they're going to be monitoring the situation every day. Also,
Andrew Auckland transport hiking parking prices by fifty cents an
hour that comes in from today. AT says that the
costs to maintain and service it network is increasing.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
So the ever, I've always thought that Auckland one day
might be good if they ever finish it. Keep praying
for that one has. Aukcan's weather partly cloudy.
Speaker 7 (24:07):
We've got the odd shower north of Harburbridge. Oh my goodness,
high the high today guess twenty one, twenty four, Oh
my lord, twenty.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Four made April okay, thank you so much. Now overseas
and a new CBS poll shows Americans views of the
economy are still sour. Most say the President Trump has
focused too much on tariffs, which they believe will end
up raising prices, and that's the big thing. Lowering prices
is by far their biggest concern. So the whole tariff
thing runs country to that. It's all balanced out for
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mister Trump today by continued majority approval on his immigration
stance and also his deportation program that comes especially, but
not exclusively, from his Republican base, many who say that's
just as important as the economy in their evaluations. That's
on a CBS poll. We're going to talk overseas in
just a few moments time with Gavin Gray from the
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Devin Gray, Good morning, Hi Andrew. So there's been allegations
that Russians have put sensors all around Great Britain in
an attempt to track UK nuclear submarines. Now, what can
you tell me about this story?
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah, so this was a story out of the Sunday
Times in which it was reported that British military discovered
the existence of these devices and deemed them a potential
threat to national security. It is believed that, if these
stories correct, these devices have been planted by Moscow in
order to try to gather intelligence on the UK's nuclear
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defense or nuclear capabilities. They are based on four Vanguard
submarines which carry these nuclear missiles. Now, if this is true,
then of course it would be deeply worrying if somebody
knows precisely where they are. The devices have been characterized
incidentally that effectively they could well be part of what's
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called a hybrid or gray zone war that Vladimir Putin
might be plotting, in other words, doing damage to infrastructure
assets as well, like energy pipelines could be being mapped. So,
in an interview with the Russian ambassador to the UK today,
he was asked straight up, has this been happening? Have
you been tracking British submarines And he said, well, I'm
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not going to deny it, but I wonder they really
have an interest in following the British submarines because they're
very old, outdated nuclear warheads and these threats are extremely exaggerated,
and then said Russia poses no threat to the UK. Well,
I'm afraid at the moment that isn't the UK's assessment
of the relationship with Russia.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
All Right, to Scotland we go, and they're having a
very fies go much like New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I gather that you two have had this perhaps the
same people have been advising one another. This is about
the daily journey on a ferry from the mainland of
Scotland mainland of the UK to the Isle of Aaron. Now,
believe it or not, these ferries were replacing a thirty
year old service, a thirty year old ferry that was
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really getting out of date and becoming unreliable. So they
ordered them and they were supposed to come into service
in twenty seventeen. Only one has so far come into service,
in other words, seven years late. The other still isn't ready.
The original cost was two hundred million New Zealand dollars.
It's now eight hundred million New Zealand dollars. And wait
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for it, they're too big to fit in the port
that they were supposed to dock at on the island.
You couldn't make it up if you tried. In the meantime,
it looks like they're going to divert the services to
the coastal town or Truon, famous for golf. But guess
what it now looks like. The Scottish government, in one
of the big mismanagements ever I think, is now thinking
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it might buy the original port that is too small
for the boats and upgraded with a rough one hundred
and seventy pound investment. Honestly, Andrew, you couldn't make it up.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yes you can. It's exactly the same as here we
bought two ferries there were too big, we couldn't afford
to do the port work. And yeah you can, right, Gavin,
and I thank you so much. Gavin Gray out of
the UK. It's now nine minutes to six federal digginous
right oh. The government wants to change up our driver's
licensing system, as looking at a new proposal to new
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drivers will only have to take one practical test instead
of two. Restricted drivers with defensive driving and clean records
will automatically gain their full after twelve months. There's a
bunch of conditions, including halving the number of demerit points,
and there'll be a zero percent alcohol breath limit regardless
of their age. So AA Road Safety spokesperson Dylan Thompson
joins me, Now, good morning to you, Dylan.
Speaker 9 (29:57):
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
So this is good because it's cheaper, but it's bad
because they get spend less time supervised driving.
Speaker 9 (30:05):
Well, I think I'd say it's good in that the
government is actually looking at making some significant changes and
we're right on board with zero alcohol limit and more
consequences for learner or restricted drivers breaking the rules. I
think the way I put it is, we think it
could be better if we looked to also make some
changes that require learners to do a lot more practice
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and preparation and training than we currently do in New Zealand.
So if we look overseas, a lot of the countries
it has systems like this with just one on road test.
They have a minimum number of hours of practice and
incentives for people to do professional lessons and driving courses.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Now, Chris Bishop actually talked about an app, an app
to be your supervised driver. Do you trust that?
Speaker 9 (30:52):
Well, no, it's not an app to be your supervised driver.
But a lot of an Australian states. What they have
is when you're a learner, you can have an app
that records all your practice hours of driving. And what
that will do is if you're the supervising driver with
that person, so that might be mum or dad or
a grandparent or a friend full license, you get a
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message saying this person says they're about to do a
practice drive with you. Is that true? You say yes.
Then the app records the time, the distance and everything
like that to make it easier.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Fascinating. Will this make it cheap? But will it reduce
the backlog?
Speaker 9 (31:27):
Well, if we had only one test, it would definitely
reduce costs and would mean that you know, there was
more capacity in the system for focusing on that the
restricted test if we if we saw this change. But
I think that that key thing has really got to
be focused on safety and are we doing things that
are actually going to reduce a really high crash or
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a rate amongst young people in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Well, Dylan good only, thank you for joining us. Dylan
is the AA Road Safety spokesperson and this is News
Talks here b It is seven to six.
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Speaker 3 (32:08):
Now on the on trust of the media. Bruce is angry.
He says, in a country of great marathon runners, where
was the news in your report about the christ Church Marathon?
Who were the winners? What were the times? Good point?
We reported that it was a record field of sevenenty fifteen,
but the winners were Oscar Inkster Banes and two hours
and twenty minutes and twenty seconds and ingod Cree in
two hours forty six thirty. And the thing about Oscar,
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he is thirty three years old, first person to win
every christ Church Marathon event distance that's the ten k,
the half marathon and the full marathon. And he's done
that twice. So there you go, Bruce, Mike Hoskin, good
morning to you, very good morning.
Speaker 13 (32:43):
That's exciting prime ministers in this morning they read about
the Winston Peters. Is Winston Peter's attacking the prime minister.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I think he is?
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Is?
Speaker 3 (32:50):
He yes, he is.
Speaker 13 (32:50):
I just wanted if it's a bit more broad based
than that, like he's attacking people generally about you know,
getting hysterical.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Well, I think, and this is what told Thomas says
as well, that you know he's about to come the
dep He's got eighteen months to the next election. He's
now going to be very much New Zealand first, rather
than the foreign minister.
Speaker 13 (33:06):
For all, I suppose I suppose that was always going
to happen, wasn't it. Yeah, we're talk He's not tamed,
that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
No, that is true.
Speaker 13 (33:12):
And tod eighty years old, fantastic. You know, I got
insight into groceries this morning. We seem to have that
under control cost of living. We'll talk about that trust
and that trust in the media thing that's as dodgy
as well. Think about first of well, you got a
thousand people, right, and fifty six as the most I
think was about sixty percent dipped into a couple of
the bigger players in the market. So if you've only
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got six out of ten to start with, by the
time you get down to the tiny players, the number
of people who actually used it would be infinitesimally small.
So how to you know, are these numbers even you
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I know it's a vibe, it's a vibe. They don't.
And I'm getting texts they don't trust us, mat.
Speaker 13 (33:48):
No, and they don't and and rightly side.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
I don't know. I don't trust. I don't trust, and
you don't trust. I don't trust. After them, oh I know.
Oh good, thank you so much. So I'm Andrew Becons.
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