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March 24, 2025 • 34 mins

On the Early Edition with Full Show Podcast Tuesday 25th of March 2025, The Government's finally scrapping the Resource Management Act, Federated Farmers RMA Reform Spokesperson Mark Hooper tells Andrew Dickens what he thinks of the new plan.  

The All Whites won 3-0 to New Caledonia, Newstalk ZB Weekend Sport Host Jason Pine was on the sidelines at the game.  

Oranga Tamariki has still not fixed systems that led to privacy breaches Save the Children Child Rights Advocacy and Research Director, Jacqui Southey shares her concerns. 

Australia Correspondent Donna Demaio keeps us up to date with the finishing touches on Australia's Federal Budget. 

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The issues is the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens
on Early Edition with one roof make your property search simple,
use talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be welcome morning, and thank you so much for
choosing us. I'm Andrew Dickens and welcome into Early Edition
and coming up over the next sixty minutes, the government
has finally grasped the nettle of the Resource Management Act.
We're going to work you through the changes with fed pharmacists.
Before six the All Whites are off to the World Cup.

(00:32):
We'll have Jason Pine in ten minutes time on a
joyous night at Eden Park and on Langha Tamariki. The
agency that cannot do its job. A horrific report finally
makes it into the public domain after eleven months and
it's not pretty reading. We're going to talk about this
with Save the Children in about five minutes time. We'll
have correspondence from around the world and right around New
Zealand and use as it breaks and you can have

(00:54):
your say too by using the text. The number is
ninety two to ninety two. A small charge applies. Good
onring to you. It is seven after.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
The agenda.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
It's Tuesday, the twenty fifth of March, US negotiators are
meeting a Russian delegation in Saudi Arabia as part of
Trump's push for a swift end to the war in Ukraine.
It comes as the Ukraine reports Russian strikes head a hospital, homes,
and children's institutions in Sumi, entering twenty eight people, including
four children. Meanwhile, Russia military says they intercepted twenty eight

(01:27):
Ukrainian drones.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
These are very technical talks. I think the Americans, who
had initially been very upbeat, very optimistic about it, have
had to scale back their expectations about just what can
be achieved.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Here to Turkey now, where the Turkish government says more
than a thousand people have been arrested in five days
of protests around the country. Protests began when Istanbul's mayor
Ekrem Imaghu, an opponent to of President Iduwan, was detained
on corruption charges. Imamagu, who's also been matter from his
post as mayor, says these charges, surprise, surprise, are politically motivated.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
If you're urging, I'm dear in mining our society to
protest this injustice made towards mister Imomolus, towards Turkish democracy.
It was our party and it's about the future of society.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
And British American influencer Andrew Tait and his brother Tristan
have appeared at a police station after returning to Romania
from the United States. The brothers registered with the authorities
in the capital for Kures. That was a legal formality
to demonstrate their compliance with the ongoing criminal investigation. Now
they're under investigation for forming an organized criminal group, human trafficking,

(02:42):
trafficking of miners and money you're ordering. And Andrew also
faces allegations of rape and sex with a minor, and
the pair, of course deny all accusations.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
I think we've all realized by now everyone with a
brain knows this case is going nowhere. This case will
be over sooner or later. Anyone with a brain can
understand that. So it's just a matter of paperwork and administration.
And now we can talk about how it's unfair. They've
just tried to destroy my life for three years. But
God puts us through things to test us, and I
believe that God put me through this to test me,
and I think I've done a flawless, fantastic job of

(03:13):
persevering that's using to be browbeaten.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
That's and taking us to ten minutes after five.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
The first word on the News of the Day in
early edition with Andrew Dickens and one Room to make
your Property search simple, You talk siy.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
So the fact that the government is going to reform
the Resource Management Act should not be underestimated. I've been
doing this job a long time, and I've seen governments
of every color and kreg grumbling about this legislation for
decades now, saying they're going to do something about it,
and never doing a thing. And when they got down
to wrestling the monster, it quickly got moved into the
too hard basket. This Act has been a classic example

(03:50):
of mission creep, with bureaucrats and councils and governments taking
on limits to development nwilly nilly, leaving us with a
mess of rules regulations, and the only fans of it
have been the lawyers and the consulting engineers who have
been on a gravy train that frankly dwarfs the EI one.
But finally a government has grasped the tiger by the

(04:10):
tail and is doing something about it. And of course
it's not going to happen overnight, and remember it will
not be immune from challenge. But here's the thing all
political parties should support the certainly the main ones why
it brings us into line with most OECD countries. It
simplifies things, it makes it understandable, and a lot of
the new legislation resembles Labour's proposal last electoral cycle. Like

(04:35):
Labour's approach, it includes two new pieces of legislation. We
will now have a Natural Environment Act and a Planning Act. However,
how it goes further than the Labour thing is it
preserves property rights better. In other words, if you've been
doing stuff on your land, you retain the right to
keep on doing it, and if your neighbor wants to
do stuff that impinges on your property rights, they can't.

(04:57):
It should also be noted that David Parker from la
A first mooted fast track consenting, which is a separate thing.
But on the RMA and fast track, Labor shouldn't complain.
If they do start bleeding, realize it's because they're jealous
that National got it over the line when they didn't.
In fact, many governments will be jealous. This one's finally
done something, so bring on the new tomorrow. Remember, it's

(05:20):
going to take years to happen, but at least it
started to happen. It's twelve minutes out to five. I'll
be reading substack and Malcolm Turnbull, the former Prime Minister
of Australia, is on substack, and lately he's been writing
about Orcus, the defense packed between Australia, the United States
and Britain, a pact that we've been encouraged to join

(05:42):
as an auxiliary partner. We're already kind of in there
in a way with five eyes, but not he's reminding
this is Malcolm Turnbull is reminding Australians that the heart
of the deal is Australia buying submarines. Of course he
was the Prime minister. He's seeing the deal when he
was in power, and he sees the kicker is the
subs only get built if America doesn't need any. Guess

(06:06):
what at this moment, America is eleven submarine short right now,
and construction is years away and takes years. So well,
Assie will ever get at subs. And with the Trump
administration now in power, there's no telling when the subs
might come for Australia. In fact, there's no telling if
the Orcus Pact will continue to be a thing in

(06:28):
the New America. So my read on all of this,
and thank you Malcolm Turnbull for writing on this, is
that New Zealand should just keep on sharing the intelligence,
but on Orcus, we need to wait until the future
is more clear before any further involvements. So look, it
took eleven months to get a report out of orang

(06:49):
A Tamoiki, and when we finally got it out of them,
out of their clawed hands, the report details grievous privacy breaches.
So what is going wrong this time with OT? We're
going to talk to save the children next here on
News Talk SETB.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with
Andrew Dickens and One Roof to make Your Property Search
Simple Youth Talk z b oh good.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
They added sixteen after five already, so alan A Tamariki
they have still not fixed systems that led to privacy
breach is so serious that in at least one case,
the breach led to a woman being physically abused. A
recently made public review of OT's approach to privacy found
the organization has just been too casual with sensitive data

(07:38):
In one case, there was a social worker who gave
the address of a child and their mother to the
child's father. The father was on bail at the time,
and he was on bail for rape charges. He should
never know that stuff. Jackie Saldy is with the child
rights advocacy and research director at Saved the Children and
joins you now, good morning to dear Jackie. Then Andrew,

(08:00):
why can't this agency ever get it together?

Speaker 6 (08:04):
Well, the privacy breaches that you've described are incredibly serious
and unacceptable by any measure, and we're very concerned that
there are continued examples and that the report that has
been made public does describe a plan that has been
put together, but we'd like to understand more about how

(08:25):
that plan is progressing and the way that it will
support children and filo to greater safety within the auto
A tammidety system. The report shows that the breaches absolutely
fail to uphold children's rights to privacy and protection under
the Convention of the Rights of the Child, and unfortunately,
children's privacy can be seen as a secondary or secondary

(08:47):
rights with the discretion of adults, when in fact children
are clearly accorded their rights to privacy if they should
be understood, respected and are held across the order a
Tamodhi system.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
You say they have a plan, but they won't tell
us about the plan. Do they even want to? I mean,
this review was completed eleven months ago and the media
has been pestering for it's released the whole time through
the Official Information Act. They to me just don't seem
to want to be accountable.

Speaker 7 (09:11):
Well, I guess it's a difficult situation.

Speaker 6 (09:14):
We're sensitive information is being shared publicly. And one of
the problems when these sorts of issues and I guess
misconduct or greatest breach has come to light, is it
takes away public trust in government agencies such as ud Tamodeki.
And this is incredibly important because if the public don't

(09:35):
have trust in Auto Tamidiki, there's a struggle to for
it to work effectively, and that is to receive complaints
of concern and the trust that they'll be acted on
appropriately and that children and finna will be protected in
their system. So it's really important. It cannot be underestimated
how critical it is that they step up and really
communicate how what they're doing to rep by these issues

(09:57):
and make the changes we want to.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
See whether they've even got our trust at all. I mean,
there's been review after review, there's been report after report,
there's been outrage after outrage and changes and plans, and
we don't get to hear about it. Do you think
they'll ever get around to it.

Speaker 6 (10:13):
Well, it's essential that they do, because they are the
government agency that is tasked with one of the most
critical areas, and child protection the most critical area in
child protection. They are absolutely tasked with upholding the safety,
the rights of protection and the futures of children and
families are incredibly fragile in fun of the situations. We
need this agency to do well, to function effectively and

(10:35):
to protect our twinforms.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Jackie Sally, I thank you so much for your advocacy.
Jackie's from Save the Children and a child rights advocacy
and research director. And I've had a text already Andrew. Yes,
of course OT can do better, but we always blame
just them. We wouldn't need this growing service who are overworked,
if people care for their families, and if New Zealand
didn't have such appalling child abuse statistics. And this is

(10:58):
all true, but we also an agency that can help
the kids and this one doesn't seem to be able
to It's five nineteen. We watched the football last night
and not White Lotus. We're into the World Cup. Jason
Pine was the caller. He's joining me.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Next News and Views, you Trust to Starne your Day.
It's the early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof
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Speaker 2 (11:23):
They'd be five twenty two. Here we go, Here we go,
Here we go. We're off to the World Cup. Twenty
twenty six. We won three mil over New Caledonia. And
of course the man making the call for the Telly
and also works here on news Talks, here be as
Jason Pine. Congratulations Jason. I thought you played very well.

Speaker 8 (11:40):
Look, I'm not sure I had any direct influence on
the game, Andrew, but it's lovely to be here with you.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Tough first half. The New Caledonians were well organized.

Speaker 8 (11:50):
They certainly were. Yeah, they came out and made it
very difficult for New Zealand in the first half. And look,
I think a lot of people turned up there last
night and tuned in thinking this is going to be
fairly straightforward, and it didn't take long for those illusions
to be dispelled. I thought New Colodoni were well worth
it and played really well in the first half. Frustrated
New Zealand. You know, any chances they had were repelled

(12:13):
by their excellent goalkeeper Rocky nccaine. And at half time
when they wandered off or New Zealand wanted off, it
was with frustration New Caledonia almost celebrating at half time
the fact that it was still nil all. But in
New Zealand grow into the game in the second half
and did what had to be done. Well.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Of course, we lost Chris Woods and we worry about it,
but that's the thing for Nottingham, for est to worry about.
But here's the thing what I liked about it. In
the second half. We changed stuff a bit. We brought
in Francis Devrees. We've got a whole lot more direct
and suddenly so we changed and we got around the
blanket defense. And that's a good sign for a good team.

Speaker 8 (12:45):
Oh look absolutely, yeah. You can't just have one plan,
can you. And Plan A was Chris Wood obviously, and
that you know, for the first time in a long
time didn't work and as you say, he went off injured.
So they changed it up Francis to Brees as you say,
came on cost of Barbe I think made an excellent
impact off the bench and Elie just you know, barbarusas
and just both on the score sheet. So yeah, they

(13:08):
It is the sign of a good team that if
things aren't going the way you would hope that they
would that you you know, that you try something else
and you get success that way. And that's what happened
last night.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
So we're after the big game, but for the third
time ever, but this time with this supposed golden generation
of players. Should we hope that they get to the
knockout stage?

Speaker 8 (13:29):
Well, absolutely, I think that'll be the aim. There's no
way that this team will want to go just to participate.
That that has to now be the base level that
when we get to the World Cup next year, it's
not just to make up the numbers. It's not just
to play three games and then pack the bags and
head home. It's that they have realistic ambitions of getting
out of their group and into the knockout stages. It
is a very good All Whites team, you know, notwithstanding

(13:51):
the fact they couldn't break down New Caledonia for large
periods of last night. This is as good in all
whites team as I've seen, and look they will be
off to the Big Dance next year with the full
intention of getting out of the group.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
And something's changed about football. In a shocking development, my
partner chose to watch the game instead of wait loads
this last night. It'll be interesting to see the ratings,
but obviously you know football's on the rise.

Speaker 8 (14:19):
Well of those Yeah, free to wear last night, which
helps obviously, but no, well, when people like your partner
are choosing, are choosing football over over her regular viewing habits.
And look, good crowd there last night from Monday night
over twenty five thousand Auckland FC. You and I have
talked about that a lot in the past as well,
and the Phoenix have been around for some time now,

(14:39):
good players all around the world. It will only get
bigger when we go to the World Cup next year.
So yeah, pretty healthy time for the round ball code
in our country.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Pack your bags, Jason, looks like you're going to America.

Speaker 6 (14:50):
We are.

Speaker 8 (14:51):
We certainly pitching to the bosses Andrew get your support.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
That'll be helpful, No problem, no problem, I'll carry your
bags for you. Jason Plant, football commentator, and news storks.
He Bespat. It's hosted is now five to twenty five.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
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Speaker 2 (15:09):
I'm Andrew Dickinson for Ryan Bridge. It is five twenty seven.
So it's no secret to anyone that we don't have
enough doctors in this country. Recent policy moves to attract
more qualified overseas doctors have been eagerly received, as have
directives to increase the number of doctors we train locally,
and the government's decision to fund another fifty medical school
places from next year, which will increase the cap to

(15:30):
six hundred and thirty nine first year students, was well
received too. But here's my question, what is the point
of training more doctors if we don't have jobs for them.
Medical Council data shows that thirty percent of medical graduates
leave the country within ten years. They leave because Health
New Zealand do not fund enough jobs. The jobs they
do fund a lowly play paid and future prospects are

(15:51):
limited except for a talent of few. They get paid
better overseas and they can pay off this student loan faster.
And it all starts in day one after they've trade.
Each year, Health New Zealand fails to fund internships for
twenty five to thirty graduates, forcing them to look overseas.
They've done everything, but there's absolutely no job there for them.

(16:13):
Some sure, we're overseas students, but they've spent seven years here.
They'd like to say if the prospects look good, but
the prospects aren't. Now we've trained these guys, and all
tertiary education is partially subsidized by you and I the taxpayer.
What is the point of spending taxpayers money training doctors
if to save taxpayers money we don't offer them a
career path after their studies. And so how about this

(16:35):
for a radical idea. The government now wants to fund
training for six hundred and thirty nine doctors next year,
why not also fund six hundred and thirty nine internships,
and if any of them don't want to stay, we
use that excess funding to pay the guys who do
want to stay a little bit more. Because to fund
training of doctors and then refuse to fund their jobs

(16:57):
after they've graduated to me as wasteful spending. And we
all know how this government feels about wasteful Spending Dickens.
Happy birthday, Elton John. He is seventy eight years old today,
three hundred million albums, one hundred million songs singles, Rock
and roll Hall of Famer. I say this because he's
been not well. He's had prostate cancer, a hit replacement.

(17:19):
His eyes are playing up on them now. So every
year with Elton is a good year. Now at a
moment we're talking about the invasion of fire rands in Australia.
You've got an earlier edition with news Talks b Hi, Fellow.

Speaker 9 (17:34):
Gravev Hell then.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Andrew Dickens on a filly edition with one roof, make
your property Surge, simple youth talk zibby.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Hey, good morning and welcome to your Tuesday. Mandre Dickinson
for why I'm bridge from here for a couple more
weeks until Heather comes back. Text throughout ninety two to
ninety two. Text wanted me to ask Jason about the
aucand Stadium being proposed for Western Springs for AUCANDFC. Well,
it wasn't the right time all the right place. But
I have to say against those plans and the popularity
of football right now, I don't think it's big enough.

(18:18):
We will by the way find out what Auck's doing
about at Stadium lay later on this week, either a
new one or a revamp of for Eeden Park. Got
a bulletin of drug and booze news for you right now.
Police have released the annual wastewater drug testing results and
it is grim there was an unprecedented ninety six percent
spike in meth consumption. That's called it one hundred percent?

(18:39):
Shall we in one year? That's a hell of a spike.
At a time when the government wants to say it's
not soft on crime and that it's war on gangs
is successful, it appears that if you're a gang drug dealer,
it's bonus time.

Speaker 8 (18:51):
Now.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
I'm not going to go out there and say the
patch band has failed, That's what Chris Hipkins said yesterday.
But what I will say is the patch band falls
around the edges of the gangs. And the Prime Minister
rightfully has asked Mark Mitchell to strike at the very
heart of gangs along with Paul Goldsmith, and we can't
wait for that. The estimated social cost of myth in
New Zealand one point five billion dollars meanwhile to the UK,

(19:13):
and the average price of a pint in England is
about to exceed five quid. This first time you have
a five quid for a pint. Everywhere a public can
say it's never been more expensive to run a pub,
so prices go up. This is because Keir starm has
brought an increases to the minimum waves as a rise
of national insurance rates and so it's all much more expensive.
That's if you can even find a pub in England.

(19:34):
The number of pubs in England has had a record low,
falling below thirty nine thousand for the first time last year.
The problem was COVID left many with crippling debt problems
and all this is striking a blow at the heart
of British life and people are not happy. You do
not get between a palm and his beer. Andrew Dickens
twenty three to six. We're going around the country Caluen

(19:55):
Proctor from duned and good morning morning Andrew, and right
pay is there are being asked their views on public transport.

Speaker 10 (20:02):
Yeah, consultations underway on the draft Otago Regional Public Transport Plan.
It opened yesterday. This focus is on improving passenger experiences,
promoting sustainable transport choices and planning bus routes. The Regional
Council is also seeking feedback on proposals to increase the
flat fear here from two dollars to two dollars fifty

(20:23):
and introduce zones for those fears. The Transport Committee co
chairs Andrew Noon. He says they need to manage new
government expectations requiring an increase in revenue and this consultation
closes on May the twelfth.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Don't complain if you don't have your day. What's the
weather like in Dunedin?

Speaker 10 (20:39):
Chance for shower this morning, becoming fine this afternoon, the
high seventeenth and I.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Thank you, Claire Sure it joins us fro Christus. Good
morning to you, Claire, Good morning. The mayor wants to
get people inside to Kaha.

Speaker 11 (20:49):
Well basically that's that's what pil Major wants to do.
He wants everyone in there, but also wants it to
be an opportunity to help charities at the same time.
So I shared last week that one New Zealand Stadium
Actica as one of the fifty one sites that are
going to open to the public at the Open christ
Church Festival, which is over a weekend in May. Now
the Catchers though that only twenty locals will get that opportunity.

(21:12):
Those names will be drawn out of a ballot, with
more than five hundred people applying to have one of
those spots within the first couple of hours. The mayor
film major says it's really cool that people can see
things they normally wouldn't get the chance to. So he'd
like to see more locals getting that opportunity. Inside Takaha
with a can of food as an entry fee.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Oh come, can't wait. Now, how's your weather?

Speaker 11 (21:34):
Some low cloud lifting this morning to become cloudy, northeasterlies
easing and a high of eighteen.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Max told joins us now from Wellington. Hellimax, good morning,
So all the talk is about the redrawing of electoral boundaries.

Speaker 12 (21:46):
Yeah, interesting announcement happening in Wellington later this morning. An
independent commission will announce what electorate could be abolished. Population
changes mean one voting area has to get the chop
in the North Island, likely to be or any that
Auckland or Wellington. The South Island's population has grown, so
it must be in the North Island. Wellington Central has

(22:06):
been suggested by some here, Orongai or how do you
bas Otago University professor Andrew Geddy's predicts Auckland will lose
an electorate and it could impact David Seymour's home turf.
EPSOM sits in the middle of the electorates in question.
He thinks EPSOM is the most likely to get the
chop right now.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
And of course then that brings about allegations of jerry mandering,
but that's for another day. What's Wellington's weather like?

Speaker 12 (22:32):
Cloudy period?

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Is today?

Speaker 12 (22:33):
Light winds twenty the high central.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
And Niva Rittaman who joins us from Auckland. Hello, Neva, Greetings,
it's Stadium Idol, it's Stadium Survivor. It's the Battle of
the stadiums and we're still waiting to find out what's
going to happen in Auckland.

Speaker 13 (22:46):
Correct, there's a waiting game. And this is the option
about Auckland Council staff what they're recommending for a national stadium.
So what we do know the council has already reached
a short list of two options. Okay, one is going
to see that Eden Park upgraded with the roofs. The
other would see the new building precinct developed near Spark Arena.
Now that would have hotels, apartments, bars, restaurants and a

(23:07):
fifty thousand seat stadium. So the staff are due to
make a recommendation, so hopefully there'll be today. Then the
councilors they choose an option on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
And of course is controversy because they went to some
gigs that eat in part.

Speaker 13 (23:21):
Yes, correct, and of.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Course the construction industry is gagging for a good piece
of work that will wait to say.

Speaker 13 (23:26):
So hopefully yes, So it should happen by the end
of this week. Well no, what's talking is were the
fine fine, fine, no rain? Unfortunately twenty five is are
high here in Auckland.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
I am very good. I thank you Neva Retamanu and
this is news stork set B. We've got Don and
Demayo from Australia in a few moments time, all about
the budget and also the attack of fire ants in Queensland,
which gives me the creeps right there just reading the headline.
And before this hour is out, we're talking to Federated
farmers about the changes to the Resource Management Act that
the government has said will happen. They said this yesterday.

(23:56):
As I understand it, the farmers are pretty happy. It
is our seventeen to sex this.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Why too. It's a quarter to six and we're off
to Australia. Done and Tamaya. Good morning to you, Good
morning to you. We are counting down to the federal budget.
What's been happening.

Speaker 9 (24:16):
Oh yes, we're down to the next few hours and
then it's it's skiing handed down by the Federal Treasurer
Jim Chalmers. It's his fourth budget tonight. It's particularly important,
as you can imagine, because of the looming federal election.
Of course, we don't know the date yet of the election,
but it can't be later than May seventeen. But a
budget can certainly influence voters. Some things we know already

(24:39):
one point two billion dollars for the cleanup bill post
x cyclone. Alfred. I've also had the PM hinting that
there could be support for the local steel and aluminium
industry facing those twenty five percent tariffs imposed by the US.
There could be some help to reduce student debt. There's
going to be extra childcare funding, some bill subsidies, because
we know all about the pressures of the cost of

(25:01):
living education boost for Queensland. There's also women's health services
funding boosts and interestingly I thought we hear that Labour's
going to make its biggest defense spending increase since World
War II, bringing forward one billion dollars in defense spending.
And that's obviously to boost our military capability.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
You need to set the military on those fire ants
in Queensland.

Speaker 9 (25:27):
Oh, Dearie May. The Queensland government has announced extra funding
to help tackle invasive fire ants. Would you believe this
month alone, sixty people have reported extreme reactions to fire
ant stings and twenty three people had to be hospitalized.
And well, we're hearing that residence of Queensland they're effectively

(25:49):
under assault from these fire ants on farms in backyards
and we know that six months ago the previous government said,
well people had to take responsibility for controlling the pets.
Well now with her from the current government, they're going
to spend an extra twenty four million dollars over the
next two years to try to control them. That makes
it sixty one million dollars to try to take care

(26:11):
of these fire ants, which can travel five kilometers in
one single flight, They damage crops, they eat seeds, and
of course there's painful stings that sadly can lead to
allergic reactions and the for axis even and possibly death
in some cases. So they're saying that if they don't
take care of this situation, the cost of the economy

(26:33):
could be billions of dollars over the next several years.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Evil little biggers here those bites. I mean, that's why
they call fire ants. It's stings like fire. And I
thank you, Donald Demio. It is now twelve to six
Andrew Dickens. Finally a government has decided and has actually
come about to reform the Resource Management Act. In fact,
the Resorts Management Act is gone. It's going to be
replaced by a Planning Act and a Natural Environment Act
by the next election. Analysis of the new system estimates

(26:59):
a forty five percent improvement in admin and compliance costs. Like,
the whole thing is a whole lot more simple. And
Mark Hooper is the RMA reform spokesperson at BEB Farmers
and joins me. Now, hallo, Mark, good morning. So finally
this brings us into line with other OECD countries.

Speaker 7 (27:16):
Yes it does. It's good news. Really, I mean, it's
sometimes hard to get excited about RMA. But this is
great that we're seeing the government do what they said
they were going to do. They've entered now into phase
three of RMA reform by presenting at least at this stage,
the early outline of what a new RMA legislation might

(27:41):
look like and better add Farmers I guess, along with
quite a lot of other organizations, have been advocating for
significant RMA reform for probably twenty years or so, So
in that sense, it's an exciting development for New Zealand,
I think, and the opportunity to do things differently to
what we have done over recent decades and see some

(28:02):
real change.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
And it's bipartisans support because a lot of it is
quite similar to Labour's proposal last electoral term. But the
important thing about National's proposal is the maintenance of property rights.
So talk us through that.

Speaker 7 (28:15):
Yeah, So that's right. So that there's similarities, I guess
to what the previous government brought through, but there's significant
differences as well. And as you say, one of those
big ones is around the principle of property rights and
it's something that takes a little bit of understanding, but

(28:36):
basically it's around managing what we call externalities. So another way,
if an effect doesn't impose anything upon a third party
or outside of your property, then you should be able
to manage what happens in your property. So that's the
principle of property rights and being able to enjoy and

(29:00):
do within a set of national limits whatever it is
that you want to be able to do.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
But the flip side of that, of course, if your
neighbor decides to do something that impinges on your property rights,
you've got the chance to come back at them.

Speaker 7 (29:14):
Yeah, yeah, so absolutely, So obviously there's still limits and
constraints there. There's both the Planning Act, as you mentioned,
and the Natural Environment Act. So the Planning Act will
have certain limitations on it. The Natural Environment Act will
be based around the set of national standards, and so
in the farming I'm seen, for example, those national standards
to probably be based around a farm plan system which

(29:37):
has been developed simultaneously, and so that will provide that
kind of guidance in terms of what is allowable.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
You're sent through some notes last night and I saw
that one of the first thing you said, it's good,
but it's not perfect. So given that these things are
slow evolutions, what else would you and fed farmers like
to see.

Speaker 7 (29:58):
Well, I think one of the things that in terms
of the good category that we're very excited about is,
and I guess because this has been a major concern
for our members of some time, is what's known as
regulatory takings. The regulatory taking is when a regulatory framework

(30:18):
is imposed upon your land, and that might be in
the form of an outstanding natural landscape, Outstanding Natural Features
SNA's things like that. So these restrict what you can do.
These go against that principle that we're just talking about
and being able to enjoy property rights, and so they

(30:40):
are in effect of regulatory taking, and what we're advocating for,
and what seems to be indicating here is that there
would be some sort of compensation associated with that. If
there is a public benefit, then the public should be
able to compensate in some way for that imposition on
private property rights. That's a good step forward. We'll see

(31:01):
how that develops and what the detail around that is,
but that's something good, I guess in terms of the
things that we would want to keep an eye on.
This talk of a shift of having one planned per region,
and we don't want to see local voice lost, but
we think that there's there's you know, probably a good

(31:21):
line that's been developed there in terms of proposing that
each individual district prepare its own plan. But the big
game is remembered that to have to try and have
less consents. But that also then means that we move
to a system where there's more focus on compliance and enforcement,
and so that's something again that you would have to

(31:42):
see a bit of a transition as to how that
would work. So that would be something to look out for.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Good south Mark Hooper, Federator Farmer's Roma Reform. Thank you
for your time today. It is seven to six The.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
News you need this morning and the in depth analysis
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Speaker 2 (32:01):
With all this good news stuff for farmers, more good
news for farmers. The fon Terra shareholders fun just broke
through the six dollars a share barrier for the first
time in seven years, well on the back of buoyant
dairy prices. But a word of warning, we're still waiting
to see the effects of any possible tariffs from America.
Apparently we should know more about April the second, But
there you go. Things are looking good. Another good news
story and Mike Huskins here again, good morning.

Speaker 14 (32:22):
We're talking about that this morning, actually beef and lamb,
because it's been building in Australia. But my suspicion is
I think I'm right in saying that the Australians don't
allow beef in from America because of the additives. And
I'm not sure. And the other point, of course is
if you make a lot of your own beef, which
we do, do you actually need to import anything. So
so we have a look at that this morning.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
There's also that forty five billion dollars sort of imbalance.

Speaker 14 (32:45):
And that's what they may look at because there's a
massive imbalance here as well. It's because, yeah, because we're
very good at beef, obviously, and if you look at
those figures, we've never sold more beef to the Americans.
They love it, which is all fine, but then they'll
look at the numbers, just pure maths and go, hold on,
how can you not buying us? And the answer is obvious,
but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll understand any of that.
So we look at that for the KRENGA happy Road

(33:07):
story on the building in this So this is where
all so Chris Bishop went off the other day and
it was a Fair and Hay designed and if you
don't know anything about design, Fair and Hay are geniuses
and there it's impossible for them all would exactly. It's
a beautiful So that's what's wrong obviously if you can't.
And then there was the wind farm the other day

(33:28):
in Southland.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Can I go back to the building though the commissioner said, oh,
it's about the historical precinct there that used to be
a rebel sport. It's not historical there.

Speaker 14 (33:37):
So my great hope, I think our great hope is
that whatever they're going to do actually allows that stuff
to get on. And the wind farm the other day
in Southland that under fast track got turned down, can
just go back to that building that's Jimmy Kirkpatrick's flannel
great projects to go.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah, yeah, there you go. Anyway, we're looking at that
more days to producer, can see you tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Wait to bring it in if you know me push
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