Broadcasting minister Paul Goldsmith says he may have' grunted' at TVNZ's board chair after Andrew Barclay raised a crime story with him.
Goldsmith was quizzed about the exchange by Labour's Reuben Davidson in Question Time on Thursday afternoon.
Newstalk ZB senior political correspondent Barry Soper explained further.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And Barry Sooper, Senior political correspondence with US High Barring
Good afternoon. You know how Mark Carney's in Australia at
the minute.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yes, which is.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
It's been speak Well, it's because he doesn't know that
we exist, and I preced my evidence, I present my evidence.
He's speaking to the Australian Parliament in Canberra today and said,
let us remember that Australia was the first nation in
the world to give women the right to vote and
to stand for parliament.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
For goodness, take apparently.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
They don't have Chat, GPT or Google in Canada.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
We've got more speech, right.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
David Seymour in for the Prime Minister today.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, really interesting because, as you'll be well aware that
Thursdays the Philly Tame days when it comes to questions
in Parliament because the Prime Minister is not there. But
I thought David Seymour has been quite cunning today using
the absence of Chris Luckson to get patsy questions fired
(00:54):
of him by his own colleague Cameron Luxton. It was
seamo's way of showing how ACT supports some contentious issues
like liberalizing overseas investment. Of course, with a golden visa scheme,
which is very successful. Already three point five billion bucks
has flowed into the country and that overseas investors will
(01:19):
be able to buy houses worth more than five million
bucks from tomorrow. So tomorrow's the kickoff date. I think
I'll put the full sale sign outside the house tonight.
But look, there were some other issues that seem or
reveled in while facing his colleague obviously pre rehearse questions.
Here they are.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Does he stand by removing the dual landate of the
Reserve Bank Mister Speaker on behalf of the Prime Minister, yes, absolutely.
Our government has told the Reserve Bank to focus exclusively
on controlling inflation.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Does he stand by reforming interest deductibility for landlords.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Mister Speaker on behalf of the Prime Minister absolutely. Stand
by our policy of treating people and the property business
exactly the same as every other business in the country.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Does he stand by changes to pay equity.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Mister Speaker on behalf of the Prime Minister. Absolutely. It
is still possible to take an appeal if you suffer
from sex based discrimination. And I say to the people
on the other side, if they don't like it, and
they're going to bring pay equity back show us the money.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
That was quite a shrewd use. Though I'm not to
because he's got all the issues that really act will
be out. It's not. It's not like pretty boring questions.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
So what I'm interested in though, were they facing questions
on TV.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
And Z Yes they were today or Goldsmith? Was that's
over the alleged buyers that we had a fairly vociferous
discussion on last week about the story that basically on
the very day that the crime rate serious assaults came
down by forty nine thousand, they simply ignored that and
(03:07):
Rana's story about gang membership rising by three over cops
and you know, just ignoring the obvious. Some labors Reuben Davison,
though he suggested Minister Paul Goldsmith had broken the law
by discussing the issue with the board chair over the weekend.
Here he is firing questions which obviously tended to explode
(03:31):
in my view before they hit the target. Have a listen.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Would it be appropriate for the chair of TV and
ZEN to raise the issue of one news media coverage
with the minister.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
In the context of a board focusing on improving levels
of trust and the issue that's been raised. I don't
have a particularly strong view. He probably shouldn't have, but
it's certainly not a major issue.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Does he still have confidence in the man he appointed
his chair of TVNZ, Andrew Barklay, after he discussed just
one news editorial coverage with the minister contrary to the law.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I do have confidence in the chair. I think he's
doing a great job now. As everybody's conscious all around
the world, particularly since COVID, there have been drops in
trust in media generally, we would expect the board to
be focused on the overall effort to improve those levels
of trust.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So there you go. I mean, it's ridiculous to suggest
that a board chairman can't wring his minister and so look,
I saw a story on television tonight. The Minister's not
going to take any action as a result of that
that would be.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Here that we don't know the content of the conversation.
That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Does it really matter?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yes, it does. Because it's not appropriate for the board
to be involved in editorial decision.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Then the Minister won't become involved in editorial decisions anyway
as a result of them being told.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
So you know, to me, but I guess what the
problem with it is that you don't know what why
did the board raise it with the minister who had
already complained to TV and zed what was the board's
interest in raising it? That's it just opens up too
many questions. Having said that, though, can I say it's
very hard to feel upset about all of this when
actually the worst thing that's happened here is not the
(05:12):
phone call. It's the bloody story, which was a chos.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
The story was a shock, and I think if I
was sitting on the board at TV in Z I'd
be pretty hosed off. I wouldn't though I'd stop. Sure, yeah, because.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
The law is so if it was awesome journalist, if
it was awesome journalism, that the board was suddenly involving itself,
and I think we'd all be a little bit more
upset about it. But the boards itself and involving itself
and some apparently some pretty cruddy journalism, right, Okay, Arry Listen,
thanks very much, appreciate it, very so for senior political correspondent.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
News Talk sai'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio,
And Barry Sooper, Senior political correspondence with US High Barring
Good afternoon. You know how Mark Carney's in Australia at
the minute.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yes, which is.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
It's been speak Well, it's because he doesn't know that
we exist, and I preced my evidence, I present my evidence.
He's speaking to the Australian Parliament in Canberra today and said,
let us remember that Australia was the first nation in
the world to give women the right to vote and
to stand for parliament.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
For goodness, take apparently.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
They don't have Chat, GPT or Google in Canada.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
We've got more speech, right.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
David Seymour in for the Prime Minister today.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, really interesting because, as you'll be well aware that
Thursdays the Philly Tame days when it comes to questions
in Parliament because the Prime Minister is not there. But
I thought David Seymour has been quite cunning today using
the absence of Chris Luckson to get patsy questions fired
(00:54):
of him by his own colleague Cameron Luxton. It was
seamo's way of showing how ACT supports some contentious issues
like liberalizing overseas investment. Of course, with a golden visa scheme,
which is very successful. Already three point five billion bucks
has flowed into the country and that overseas investors will
(01:19):
be able to buy houses worth more than five million
bucks from tomorrow. So tomorrow's the kickoff date. I think
I'll put the full sale sign outside the house tonight.
But look, there were some other issues that seem or
reveled in while facing his colleague obviously pre rehearse questions.
Here they are.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Does he stand by removing the dual landate of the
Reserve Bank Mister Speaker on behalf of the Prime Minister, yes, absolutely.
Our government has told the Reserve Bank to focus exclusively
on controlling inflation.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Does he stand by reforming interest deductibility for landlords.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Mister Speaker on behalf of the Prime Minister absolutely. Stand
by our policy of treating people and the property business
exactly the same as every other business in the country.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Does he stand by changes to pay equity.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Mister Speaker on behalf of the Prime Minister. Absolutely. It
is still possible to take an appeal if you suffer
from sex based discrimination. And I say to the people
on the other side, if they don't like it, and
they're going to bring pay equity back show us the money.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
That was quite a shrewd use. Though I'm not to
because he's got all the issues that really act will
be out. It's not. It's not like pretty boring questions.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
So what I'm interested in though, were they facing questions
on TV.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
And Z Yes they were today or Goldsmith? Was that's
over the alleged buyers that we had a fairly vociferous
discussion on last week about the story that basically on
the very day that the crime rate serious assaults came
down by forty nine thousand, they simply ignored that and
(03:07):
Rana's story about gang membership rising by three over cops
and you know, just ignoring the obvious. Some labors Reuben Davison,
though he suggested Minister Paul Goldsmith had broken the law
by discussing the issue with the board chair over the weekend.
Here he is firing questions which obviously tended to explode
(03:31):
in my view before they hit the target. Have a listen.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Would it be appropriate for the chair of TV and
ZEN to raise the issue of one news media coverage
with the minister.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
In the context of a board focusing on improving levels
of trust and the issue that's been raised. I don't
have a particularly strong view. He probably shouldn't have, but
it's certainly not a major issue.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Does he still have confidence in the man he appointed
his chair of TVNZ, Andrew Barklay, after he discussed just
one news editorial coverage with the minister contrary to the law.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I do have confidence in the chair. I think he's
doing a great job now. As everybody's conscious all around
the world, particularly since COVID, there have been drops in
trust in media generally, we would expect the board to
be focused on the overall effort to improve those levels
of trust.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So there you go. I mean, it's ridiculous to suggest
that a board chairman can't wring his minister and so look,
I saw a story on television tonight. The Minister's not
going to take any action as a result of that
that would be.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Here that we don't know the content of the conversation.
That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Does it really matter?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yes, it does. Because it's not appropriate for the board
to be involved in editorial decision.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Then the Minister won't become involved in editorial decisions anyway
as a result of them being told.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
So you know, to me, but I guess what the
problem with it is that you don't know what why
did the board raise it with the minister who had
already complained to TV and zed what was the board's
interest in raising it? That's it just opens up too
many questions. Having said that, though, can I say it's
very hard to feel upset about all of this when
actually the worst thing that's happened here is not the
(05:12):
phone call. It's the bloody story, which was a chos.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
The story was a shock, and I think if I
was sitting on the board at TV in Z I'd
be pretty hosed off. I wouldn't though I'd stop. Sure, yeah, because.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
The law is so if it was awesome journalist, if
it was awesome journalism, that the board was suddenly involving itself,
and I think we'd all be a little bit more
upset about it. But the boards itself and involving itself
and some apparently some pretty cruddy journalism, right, Okay, Arry Listen,
thanks very much, appreciate it, very so for senior political correspondent.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
News Talk sai'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio,
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