Barry Soper: Newstalk ZB senior political correspondent on Mariameno Kapa-Kingi voicing concerns with Te Pāti Māori

MP Mariameno Kapa-Kingi isn't saying if she has confidence in Te Pāti Māori's leadership, after her reinstatement.

A High Court this week ruled her expulsion last year was unlawful.

She says she'll maintain separate offices from the Party  for now, and consider the ruling with whanau and iwi.

Newstalk ZB senior political correspondent Barry Soper explained further.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Barry Soper, Senior political correspondence with us Alo Berry.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Good afternoon, Heather, never heard of it? Who Chelsea Winter?

Speaker 1 (00:06):
What about Emily writes, no, no, my cap But that's
that probably says more about you.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
So I thought about, what's something like that here?

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Government's defended its record with Mardy. What's happening?

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah, Well, Labour's Willie Jackson, as he's wont to do,
was on the war path in Parliament this afternoon having
a go at the Minister for Maldy Development, Tama Portaka,
who I've got to say was in fine form. Jackson
was citing how Maldy you had been suffering at the
hands of this government, which saw Portaka ticking off, how

(00:38):
Maury have actually benefited under the government policies, and then this.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
We don't speak from the podium of truth, Mustter, Speaker,
but from the crucible of outcomes, mister.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
Speaker, Speakers, will Jackson, thank you, mister speaker. Does the
Minister accept that a track record in terms of cutting
Marty and targeted funding in areas like Marty housing, Marty
broadcasting and Marty trade training has resulted in a record

(01:11):
ten year high of Marty unemployment.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yes, we have inherited the fiscal cliff and Grardy broadcasting
that the member who asked a question have left us.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
So it was in fine form. Will he I think
he got more than a bagained for you? Toma Poltaker
is normally philly mild manner.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Do you think he had to go away and google
the meaning of crucible?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
How is that what you've been doing?

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Actually, I'm not gonna lie. Got me back all right?
So Labour's in trouble, day two, day three, whatever it
is now for keeping the public in the dark arm Yeah,
well look there.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Was further clarification on why information identified by the Royal
Commission into COVID about the dangers of requiring our under
eighteen year olds to have two COVID vaccines before they
were allowed to go to work. It was hammered out
again in Parliament this afternoon. The targets were the same.
The ministers who were briefed on the dangers, Labour's Chris

(02:09):
Hippians and the Health Minister at the time, Oscheverral New
Zealand First Winston Peters was was firing their shots through
the Health Minister Symbian Brown and got what he wanted
Dabo listen.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
The Royal Commission found that Honorable Chris Hipkins was informed
of the COVID nineteen vaccine Technical Advisory Groups concerns and
a briefing on twenty two December twenty twenty one, and
this briefing was considered by Honorable Asia Viral on seven
January twenty twenty two.

Speaker 6 (02:35):
She knows why, after more than four years, has the
Ministry of Health kept it hidden and why does this
briefing not appear in the Ministry's list of briefings provided
to Minister Hipkins in December of twenty twenty one. Point
of order the Honorable Career Mechanoltic.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
A suggestion that a ministry kept information hidden surely as
an inference that shouldn't be allowed in a Christian Well,
I'm not a of why this briefing was not publicly released.
That would be a question for the Ministry of Health
or Honorable Chris Hipkins.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
The person of course he's always yelling out is none
other than Shane Jones. I mean, it's quite funny.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Right, So is capa King you going to stay with
the Malori party or not?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well, that's actually a very good question. Hither because she
was repatriated this week into the Malori Party. I saw
her in Parliament this afternoon, though, sitting with Takuta Ferris,
who hasn't taken any action about his expulsion, so he's
now the only independent MP in parliament. She says of

(03:40):
the High Court decision, she will sit with the decision well.
Carpa Kemmingy may be back on the Morrow Party's team,
but if you listen to her, the team would appear
to be dysfunctional.

Speaker 7 (03:53):
We in a new day and age. Were he in
MIODI continue to experience enduring prejudice. I was left with
one choice, and that was to call it out in
one of the highest levels I could. When Chikunga was
blatantly ignored. The court made it very clear there was
no evidence to support allegations that I misused funds or

(04:14):
bought the party into disripute. It also confirmed that the
fat sheet distributed last October which made serious allegations against
one of my children stated quote regrettably did not record facts.
Our people want a movement that is reflective of Maori
hearts and minds. The question remains whether the Party Maori

(04:36):
can be trusted by mid or hair. While no changes
have been made, and the capability of the party beyond
this term is debated amongst the Emi Miudi.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yet imagine now what's going to happen in the Malori
party because really Kapa kingiars after John Tammaheri, who of
course is the president of the party, and there's no
love lost of course between the co leaders of the
party either in Kappa Kinghi. So look, I can't see
this panning out very nicely, and in fact, just before

(05:07):
an election where they could be the third coalition party
if Labor gets enough numbers, I think you know, they've
still got a lot of.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Reparation to do to right Barry, Thanks very much, Barry Soper,
Senior political Correspondence.

Speaker 6 (05:21):
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