Former All Blacks captain Taine Randell will stand as a New Zealand First candidate at this year's election.
He's reportedly set to contest the Tukituki seat, currently held by National's Catherine Wedd.
Newstalk ZB senior political correspondent Barry Soper explains why this is big news for NZ First.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Barry Sober, senior political correspondent, is with us.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hallo, Barry, good afternoon, Heather. Right.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Okay, so Taine Randall, what do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Well, you know, I think it's a bit of a
score for New Zealand First, isn't it. And it comes
really as no surprise because, as you well know, the
rumor mill's been out there and certainly some very senior
figures that I've talked to that have been in other
parties talking about not only voting for New Zealand First,
but some have been suggested as standing for that party
(00:30):
itself as well. And I think there are two factors
behind all of this. Of course, Winston Peters is, like
I've said before, a superb campaigner. He gets out, he
goes to country halls and drags people in the Normally
they're packed out because he's charismatic, they like the cut
of his cloth. They don't necessarily always like everything he says.
(00:54):
But look he's a pretty wily old politician. He's eighty
just turned, so you know, look, he goes to show
that age isn't always the retardation that it seems when
it comes to politics. Although we have to look at
the States, and perhaps so.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Very please, you don't have to make everything about Donald Trump. Listen,
the problem with New Zealand first is, and this has
been a problem from election to election, is that they
may get big numbs and they're dragging a whole lot
of flotsam and jets and you go, who the hell
is this person? And you never hear from them, you know,
between two elections? Does Tayanne Randall fix that to some extent?
Like he's a name, he's well known, and Shane Jones,
(01:36):
you've got Tayne Randall, maybe you've got Stu Nash.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, I think you know Randal is really good because
he was very well respected as an All Black. He
kept in the All Blacks, you know on twenty two times.
I think he played fifty one tests for the All Blacks,
and people know him. He's a very solid sort of
a character. Interestingly, Stu Nash, because he's standing, or he
(02:01):
could be standing. He hasn't been announced yet, but it
looks no. No, I'm talking about Tane Randall, but certainly
student Ash. I've been texting him today. He's not letting on.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
And because Tane Randall being and Turkey tuky and hawks
by you have ste nash in hawks by right, So
no no answer.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
From him, no indication yet, but you know, we'll see
that when it comes.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Okay, we'll go on then talk about Donald Trump, because
I know you want to.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Well, I'm just finding the whole situation in the Hall
of Straight really interesting, given that you know, you've got
Iran blocking ships, You've got the US also blocking ships.
The US ordered a ship back, and you remember Iran
said that it would blow anybody up if the Americans
(02:52):
started issuing orders and was straight. They have the ship
turned back. Well that's it, and so far a sort
of no and thank god, no repercussions, but who knows
how long that's going to last. The International Monetary Fund
has said the war has stalled the world's economic momentum,
(03:17):
and they've talked about the possibility of a worldwide recession,
which would be absolutely appalling if that happened. So let's
hope Donald Trump is right when he talks about maybe
the Iranians are desperate to do a deal. We've heard
that before. And there's been a suggestion that JD Vance
(03:38):
will go back to Pakistan within days. Well, we've heard
that before with Putin and Trump. Trump saying that we'll
be having a meeting within two weeks. And you were
a bottle whiskey to me forgetting that one wrong. But
that's fine. Now. Trump is sounding a little weary these days.
I've got to say, hardly surprising. But I think we'll
(03:59):
be getting back to normal before too long, he says,
whatever normal is there is And this is what he
told us mates at Fox News.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I had a divert because if I didn't do that
right now, you would have a ran with a nuclear weapon.
And if they had a nuclear weapon, you would be
calling everybody over there, sir, And you don't want to
do that. I mean, I view it as very close
to over. You know what, if I pulled up stakes
right now, it would take them twenty years to rebuild
that country. And we're not finished. We'll see what happens.
(04:31):
I think they want to make it deal very badly.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
It's something to be absolutely proud of. You know that
you've got to rebuild a country over twenty years to
undo the damage.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
No, I'm just it is a fair points. No, it
is something to be proud of that they have to
rebuild their military.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
And I'm going to start drinking diet coke immediately because
you know, there's cancer in my family, and I think
you know it may ward it off, although I did
try drinking some ginola during coke and I got.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Quite honestly, do you have anything serious to say about
that Willis? Or shall we just shut it down right now?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Well, she's in Washington at the moment. She's there for
other meetings, but she will be meeting with officials in
the White House. And I've got to say, Nichola Willis
and a bit like Chris Luxon in recent days there've
been somewhat more critical of the US than her ministerial
(05:28):
colleagues have been in the past.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Just because the focus groups are telling them to do that.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Well maybe, yes, maybe, Heather, but they said that Donald
Trump's threat, well Nichola Willis did to end of civilization
was unprecedented and alarming. Oh my gosh. Absolutely hope she.
I hope she comes back being a little more definite
that we ever hear from Donald Trump about the end
of this.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Okay, Barry, thank you very much, Barry Soper Lord, it
was a ride today seeing your political correspondent.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news Hawks.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio
Barry Sober, senior political correspondent, is with us.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hallo, Barry, good afternoon, Heather. Right.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Okay, so Taine Randall, what do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Well, you know, I think it's a bit of a
score for New Zealand First, isn't it. And it comes
really as no surprise because, as you well know, the
rumor mill's been out there and certainly some very senior
figures that I've talked to that have been in other
parties talking about not only voting for New Zealand First,
but some have been suggested as standing for that party
(00:30):
itself as well. And I think there are two factors
behind all of this. Of course, Winston Peters is, like
I've said before, a superb campaigner. He gets out, he
goes to country halls and drags people in the Normally
they're packed out because he's charismatic, they like the cut
of his cloth. They don't necessarily always like everything he says.
(00:54):
But look he's a pretty wily old politician. He's eighty
just turned, so you know, look, he goes to show
that age isn't always the retardation that it seems when
it comes to politics. Although we have to look at
the States, and perhaps so.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Very please, you don't have to make everything about Donald Trump. Listen,
the problem with New Zealand first is, and this has
been a problem from election to election, is that they
may get big numbs and they're dragging a whole lot
of flotsam and jets and you go, who the hell
is this person? And you never hear from them, you know,
between two elections? Does Tayanne Randall fix that to some extent?
Like he's a name, he's well known, and Shane Jones,
(01:36):
you've got Tayne Randall, maybe you've got Stu Nash.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, I think you know Randal is really good because
he was very well respected as an All Black. He
kept in the All Blacks, you know on twenty two times.
I think he played fifty one tests for the All Blacks,
and people know him. He's a very solid sort of
a character. Interestingly, Stu Nash, because he's standing, or he
(02:01):
could be standing. He hasn't been announced yet, but it
looks no. No, I'm talking about Tane Randall, but certainly
student Ash. I've been texting him today. He's not letting on.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
And because Tane Randall being and Turkey tuky and hawks
by you have ste nash in hawks by right, So
no no answer.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
From him, no indication yet, but you know, we'll see
that when it comes.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Okay, we'll go on then talk about Donald Trump, because
I know you want to.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Well, I'm just finding the whole situation in the Hall
of Straight really interesting, given that you know, you've got
Iran blocking ships, You've got the US also blocking ships.
The US ordered a ship back, and you remember Iran
said that it would blow anybody up if the Americans
(02:52):
started issuing orders and was straight. They have the ship
turned back. Well that's it, and so far a sort
of no and thank god, no repercussions, but who knows
how long that's going to last. The International Monetary Fund
has said the war has stalled the world's economic momentum,
(03:17):
and they've talked about the possibility of a worldwide recession,
which would be absolutely appalling if that happened. So let's
hope Donald Trump is right when he talks about maybe
the Iranians are desperate to do a deal. We've heard
that before. And there's been a suggestion that JD Vance
(03:38):
will go back to Pakistan within days. Well, we've heard
that before with Putin and Trump. Trump saying that we'll
be having a meeting within two weeks. And you were
a bottle whiskey to me forgetting that one wrong. But
that's fine. Now. Trump is sounding a little weary these days.
I've got to say, hardly surprising. But I think we'll
(03:59):
be getting back to normal before too long, he says,
whatever normal is there is And this is what he
told us mates at Fox News.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I had a divert because if I didn't do that
right now, you would have a ran with a nuclear weapon.
And if they had a nuclear weapon, you would be
calling everybody over there, sir, And you don't want to
do that. I mean, I view it as very close
to over. You know what, if I pulled up stakes
right now, it would take them twenty years to rebuild
that country. And we're not finished. We'll see what happens.
(04:31):
I think they want to make it deal very badly.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
It's something to be absolutely proud of. You know that
you've got to rebuild a country over twenty years to
undo the damage.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
No, I'm just it is a fair points. No, it
is something to be proud of that they have to
rebuild their military.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
And I'm going to start drinking diet coke immediately because
you know, there's cancer in my family, and I think
you know it may ward it off, although I did
try drinking some ginola during coke and I got.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Quite honestly, do you have anything serious to say about
that Willis? Or shall we just shut it down right now?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Well, she's in Washington at the moment. She's there for
other meetings, but she will be meeting with officials in
the White House. And I've got to say, Nichola Willis
and a bit like Chris Luxon in recent days there've
been somewhat more critical of the US than her ministerial
(05:28):
colleagues have been in the past.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Just because the focus groups are telling them to do that.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Well maybe, yes, maybe, Heather, but they said that Donald
Trump's threat, well Nichola Willis did to end of civilization
was unprecedented and alarming. Oh my gosh. Absolutely hope she.
I hope she comes back being a little more definite
that we ever hear from Donald Trump about the end
of this.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Okay, Barry, thank you very much, Barry Soper Lord, it
was a ride today seeing your political correspondent.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news Hawks.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio
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