Full Show Podcast: 05 March 2026

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The only drive show you can try to ask the questions,
get the answers, find the faack and give the analysis.
Heather duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand and the
power of satellite mobile news.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Doorgs be.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today. Transport Minister
Chris Bishop on whether he will be scrapping the clean
car standards. Judith Collins, the Defense Minister, on those flights
for Key we stuck in the Middle East and we'll
have a chat to an expert about how much of
a threat terrorism wise, teenage boys.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Really are Heather duplicy Ellen. Right.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
So, the latest climate drama involving this government is that
they're being accused of lining up to scrap the clean
car standards altogether. And I would say to the EV
lobby group pushing this line that they may want to
just settle down about this. Even those of us and
I'm looking straight at me here, even those of us
who want to see the clean car standards dropped all together,
do not think it's going to happen, because that would
take political courage that I do not think this government

(00:58):
has on a subt like this in an election year. Now,
what I'm talking about here. If you don't follow all
of the details here, this is the twin of the
ute tax, right, This is the other part of that
policy that was brought in at the same time. It's
a penalty that importers have to pay for every dirty
car that they bring into this country in the hope
that it will encourage them to instead go for the
cleaner cars, the evs, And it was recently dropped right

(01:20):
down at the end of the year and it's up
for consultation at the moment. The government is considering overhauling
the system.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
So one of the.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Questions being asked in the consultation is should it just
be abolished altogether? Now, I'd love it to be because
it hasn't worked, because we actually as consumers, do not
want to buy that many evs in this country. The
only thing that the standard has done is to drop
the number of Japanese cars, which we love, coming into
the country in the last five years, from one hundred

(01:46):
and fifty thousand a year to ninety thousand a year.
That's down forty five percent. And apparently most of this,
according to the dealers, is because of the clean car standard,
and you do not have to be a rocket scientist
to figure out what that does to prices. If you're
bringing and so many fewer, what happens to prices? That's right,
they go up? Hopey? Is that? That's right? Me and
you Ana love that.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
Now.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
The other thing that it does is it forced two
hundred and forty four dealers just last year to shut
down because they couldn't get enough cars. So I'd love
to see the standard scrapped. It's only making our cars
more expensive, it's only putting people out of business, and
as we know, it's actually going to do nothing for
the climate because New Zealand is insignificant in the scheme
of global emissions. But it will not be scrapped because

(02:28):
every other developed nation apart from Russia, is applying standards
like this, so we'll be stuck playing the game too.
Should it be a should it be abolished? I'm sorry
to say, is just a question to make the government
look like it's considering everything, but it is not actually
considering everything, and we're probably stuck with.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
This ever due for see Allen.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Nine two ninety two. Standard tech SPE's applying Chris Bishops
with us after five o'clock. Now to the ongoing issue
of school buses being cut. A rural school bus review
has some parents facing our long drives just to get
the kiddies to school. In the Gisbane area. More than
one hundred students could be affected. And one of the
parents there is Toby Williams who's with us now, Hi, Toby, Hi,
Heather Okay said, what's going on in your situation?

Speaker 6 (03:11):
Yeah, So there's been a review going on for about
eighteen months from the Ministry of Education's Transports vision around
the eligibility of kids for going to school and the
Gisman reviews just come through and they've scaled the buses
right back and it's really affecting our rural kids and
we can't get our kids to school now, you know,
and efficiently without sort of taking them ourselves. And for me,

(03:33):
there'd been our during the each day, each way, each
day to get.

Speaker 7 (03:36):
Them into there.

Speaker 6 (03:37):
So rumined the productivity on my farm to try to
get the kids to the education they need.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
So the school bus a your school bus has been
cut or scaled back?

Speaker 6 (03:47):
Yeah, our school bus has been scaled back, is that man?
So they've shortened the area. So I used to drive
past our gates, our kids have bike two k's down
the road every morning and catch the bus and the
main road. Now that option isn't there anymore. We've got
to put them in a car and drive them either
to the next bus stop which is close enough to
town that we may or drive them all the way
to town and then and drive home again. And there

(04:09):
are other rural areas have been done, so they've sort
of turtled the entire bus route in so you're picking
out more urban kids but less rural kids.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Okay, and so is this basically is it a supplying
demand thing that there weren't that many kids catching this
particular that the bus on this particular route near your house.

Speaker 6 (04:28):
Yeah, there's forty five kids that utilize their bus that
goes past our gate.

Speaker 7 (04:31):
We've done a survey of the community from the pick
up point.

Speaker 6 (04:33):
Some parents bring their kids in, you know, from relatively
you know, from half an hour away to that bus
stop to save them in that you know, an hour
and a half juney to town.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
It seems a lot, Toby, how many how many would
it take? How many kids would it take to make
the bus run?

Speaker 6 (04:48):
Well, that's what we're going through with go Bus. At
the moment, our local bus companies. How do we actually
fund this ourselves as a community at the ministry is
now not going to Would.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
You be prepared?

Speaker 6 (04:57):
Yeah, we are, That's that's a question we asked the community,
and we need to get a rice back from the
bus company.

Speaker 7 (05:02):
But we've got seven weeks to sort this out.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
We've been told last week that on the first day
of term two that bus is no longer going to
be there and you have to have you know, your
kids have to find a way to school some other
way or somehow. So we're scramming to try to do
this and to be fair to the ministry, the government's
reviewing this at the moment, but what we're asking for
is them to pause these reviews, pause the rollout of

(05:24):
the review while we're looking at the policy as a whole.
So get the Ministry of Ministry of Education Transport Division
to stop the changes until maybe the end of the
year when we've got a clear picture of what it
looks like and the schools.

Speaker 7 (05:37):
And our parents.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
To be fair, I mean, how long do you guys,
how long do you actually really need to make a
decision on this? I mean, surely it's as simple as
you call the bus company, you go how much does
it cost for you to do this thing? And then
you split it between the parents who want to use it.
That doesn't take all year.

Speaker 7 (05:53):
No, it doesn't take all year. But we're working with
the schools on this as well, and there's some lead
in time for the parents to understand this.

Speaker 6 (06:00):
People in our community who can't afford that the moment's
been a free bus and parts of ADU.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
So Toby, am I right in thinking that actually you
want to pause it so you can lobby against it.

Speaker 6 (06:09):
No, we're not lobbying against it at all, because I've
been one of the federated farmers. We're lobbying for this
review to happen and providing some changes of what looked
like and that was cost sharing with the communities to
make sure we had the excess there. At the moment,
we've got parents now saying that their kids aren't going
to be going to school on some days because it's
not worth them taking them to school.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
How much does it? How much do you reckon it's
going to end up costing each family?

Speaker 8 (06:32):
I can't.

Speaker 7 (06:33):
I don't know that at the moment.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Then how do we know our parents won't be able
to afford it.

Speaker 6 (06:38):
Well, I've surveyed them and asked would affordability of a
bus be a concern for you? And about quarter of
the suve has come back saying yes that it would be.
It's also the fact that the bus and so some
of our days of school has only half a day,
so there's you know, trying to fetter it in around
and make sure that you know, we can get the
kids to there and they've got the excess to educations worked.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Actually, do you know what I wonder? I mean, obviously,
it seems to me the solution probably does lie on
you guys having to fund it yourselves, unfortunately. But I imagine
that this is actually going to pose a bigger because
this is happening around the country right This has got
to pose a problem for rural communities where it must
be hard to get people working on your farm if
they've got kids and they don't know how they're going
to get their kids to school.

Speaker 7 (07:20):
Yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 6 (07:21):
One of the big drawer cards of having a farm
having a bus go past your gate is you can
say to people, hey, look, high school bus or primary
school bus go is passed by gate, and you don't
have to fork out private school fees to get your
children educated.

Speaker 7 (07:32):
The Act, you know, was a nineteen eight act.

Speaker 6 (07:35):
This has been based on and it's been looking to
be modernized, and we think there needs to be some
consultation around the modernizing with communities and schools figure out
how can we cost you it because no one's asking
for a guaranteed free bus that's unrealistic in the climate.
But how do we actually make sure we've got the
excess first? And communities are consulted on this and that's
what's not happening.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Hey, Toby, it's good to talk to you mate. Good
luck with sorting this one out. Toby Williams, Gisbon Farmer.
I don't know about you, but I think that I
think we're going to have to start paying for this
kind of thing ourselves if we live out in rural communities.
What do you think. I don't think that. I don't
like I think it's getting to the point where we
can't because this kind of stuff is going to crop
up time and time again in different guys. Is right,

(08:15):
it's a school bus today, it's going to be something else.
It's going to be a road tomorrow. It's going to
be an electricity line another day. And if you're the
only punter out there and we're doing something special for
like five people, surely you're going to have to pay
for it yourselves. I would have thought. Look on the
business with Iran, he's an update for you. It looks
like the Kurds have crossed the border from Iraq to
fight in Iran. They say they're doing this because the

(08:35):
US has got in touch with them and ask for support,
and the US has said that it's ready to provide
air support if the Kurdish fighters do cross the border.
It's kind of mixed messages. Some are saying they haven't
done it, some are saying they have already crossed. But
by the looks of things, these are the boots on
the ground that are needed if there is to be
regime changed, because you'll hear this time and time again,
you cannot force regime change in a place like Iran

(08:57):
if you haven't got boots on the ground. The US
is pretty luck and to put its own troops in there,
So maybe the Kurds are the troops that go in,
but there aren't enough by the looks of things, so
they're going to need forces coming into a run from
other directions and other forces as well. Sixteen past four It's.

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Speaker 9 (09:36):
Oh lord it? I got up at two thirty, did
you because I'm a tragic and I watched the first
half and I thought they'd bold particularly well, which sat
and strangled them. The only person got a bit of
tat was Tom Nishan, but the rest of them amazing,
like Ferguson was incredible and ratch and got a whole
lot of wickets. Maybe they got away a wee bit

(09:57):
toward the end, and I thought, well, maybe this might
come back to bite. Then I went to sleep, and
then I wake up at seven o'clock and I hit
go on the second innings and I watched that this
morning over many many coffees. Wow, I mean Wow, it's
hard to describe what I just saw. It was a
phenomenal display from not only Fan Allen with that one

(10:18):
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Speaker 2 (10:25):
Four.

Speaker 9 (10:26):
Yes, that was astonishing. But I think you've got a
credit to Tim Seifet because the way those guys played
off each other with that innings and then no Mutch
and Revenger come and said don't forget me, and there's
all these other guys sitting in the camp going well,
maybe next time you guys fall over and ratching and
Phillips can stand up. Blah blah. I thought that Cole
McConkie's fantastic. He comes in, he gets over the second over,

(10:50):
It's like, what are you doing opening taking two wickets?
What do you think? Astonishing? It really was something else
and you can feel the air go out of the stadium.
So tonight we'll find out our opposition, be it dreaded England,
who we are a couple when it comes to one
day International finals, well not one day but short version
or India who we appear to be their bogie team,

(11:12):
and whether they India Can they dig, Can they dig
knuckle deep and actually peck us from being the bogey
or not? And all the pressure crush coming amazing on
Monday morning.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
So Jamie Joseph, I mean credit to him for tough.
Tough Obviously sounds quite bummed out, doesn't he. But I
thought it was interesting that he's not ruling it out
in the future, did you.

Speaker 10 (11:35):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 9 (11:36):
I'm thinking this age you can't say no, why do.

Speaker 11 (11:41):
What do you know?

Speaker 3 (11:42):
The theory? You know the theory that the conspiracy theory
is that Dave Rennie's got the job until the end
of next year while they wait for Tony Brown to
free up, and then it's then it's Tony and Jamie
from twenty eight.

Speaker 9 (11:54):
What if Dave Rennie ends up beating up on the
South Africans, winning the Nation's championship, then smoking at the
World Cup and ring he keeps it and that'd be
insane to make decisions. Although you talk about insanity and
who's actually running that chart the moment.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
We don't know, but I mean it does go to
show like Dave Rennie has got to perform in the
space that he's got to the end of his contract
or there are two people sitting there waiting for their time.

Speaker 9 (12:22):
Over his head. Like with Foster, there was always that
errorton of Scott Robertson in the background.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
There is an rit Rennie, but they're not doing that.

Speaker 9 (12:32):
That was very active with Scott Robertson. The way they
were playing undermining. Yeah, and I don't think that was
particularly classy, but in Zi are welcomed that and essentially
the way they engaged they made it okay in fair Ground.
So I thought that Jamie Joseph was great. Look, he
said he was disappointed, but he's happy with the process
and he got a huge amount of respect for Dave Rennie.

(12:54):
He said, he got feedback, but he's not going to
tell you what that is because that is private. Would
he work with Dave Rennie said, honestly, I haven't even
thought about that yet. And you know, the first message
that he got, he got so much message of support
from his big final and the like the first person
to message him Dave Rennie.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Good stuff, Hey, Darcy, thank you as always.

Speaker 9 (13:14):
Hey, Eddie Jones is on the show tonight. Oh my god,
because Dave Rennie got gas and Eddie Jones pinched his job.
So we're going to talk to Eddie about that and
also building up to World Cup eighteen month runway. Can't
be done? Can it be done?

Speaker 3 (13:28):
You need to talk to Russy about Yeah, and then we.

Speaker 9 (13:31):
Talked to Slave Griffin as well, assistant coach.

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We have to say if you look at Australia, he
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Speaker 10 (13:50):
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Speaker 3 (14:32):
Really quickly, here are some numbers on fill fin Allen
for you. Smash the fastest century in a T twenty
World Cup game, unbeaten one hundred of thirty three balls.
Beats the previous record held by Chris Gale on forty
seven balls. That's quite a margin. Featured ten four six,
ten fours eight six's the final over went four four
six six four. That's impressive four twenty seven. Now, if

(14:55):
you missed it last night, Wayne Brown was on Auckland's
med on the show and he's just raging, just raging
at the government ministers for wanting the density match, and
in particular, I'll tell you who's got on is David Seymour.
They have no idea where the intensification in the city
will happen. So they passed the law, and then they
might it might.

Speaker 13 (15:13):
Create what happened to be where you live, mister Seymour,
and in fact, I will make sure it is.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
So are you trying to screw mister Seymour.

Speaker 13 (15:19):
No, No, he's trying to screw me, and there's no
way that's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
David responded responded to that today.

Speaker 14 (15:24):
Didn't he Well, I think our city deserves a bit
more decorum from its mayor. I was a bit disappointed,
no matter who the mirror is, to hear the mirror
of our largest city talking the way that he was
almost yelling down the phone in a radio interview. But look,
maybe a cup of tea and a lie down or
facts that I don't.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Know, daycorm is that answer? Is that how you pronounce it?
I've been saying decorum this whole time.

Speaker 15 (15:52):
Have I been mispronouncing I thought it was decorum as well?

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Is this that.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Decorum? Evidently maybe that's the original Latin. Anyway, I think
there is value. I'm gonna be honest with you. I
think there's value in an Auckland mayor that stands up
to the ministers. On Auckland News is next.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Cutting through the noise to get the facts.

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Speaker 3 (16:27):
What me Murray us very sure, they're very standing by.
He'll give us politics in ten minutes time. Also, I'm
going to get Judith Collins on for you to talk
you through the evacuation plans as much as she can.
For the key we stuck in the Middle East. I'll
get a for you after five o'clock. Hither, there is
value in sticking up and a mayor sticking up against
central government if the mayor is representing the interests of

(16:49):
Auckland as and he clearly isn't on this matter, Dave,
I would agree. I would disagree with you on that
because what is going on here is the government. The
government ministers want to know the changes that they have
now made, dropping the time from two million down to
one point six. They want to know where the intensification
is going to be as is it going to be
okay in their suburbs in the lead up to the selection,

(17:09):
generating those maps is a time wasting distraction for the
council and a cost. Now I don't know how much
of a distraction. I don't know how much of a cost.
I don't know, but it is basically asking the council
for a favor that will cost them time and money
just so the government can have government ministers can have
an easy time during this election campaign. I'm not sure
it's in the best interests of auckland Is actually to

(17:31):
help them out on this one. I think we could
just sit this one out and go that's cool. I
don't want to spend that money twenty three away from five.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
It's the world wires on youth talks. They'd be drive.

Speaker 16 (17:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
So, as I was telling you, the Kurdish forces have
reportedly launched a ground invasion of a run. A Kurdish
separatist group in Iran has told international media that Kurdish
armed groups have crossed the border from Iraq and are
attacking Iranian forces. Trump says America's war effort is going
very well.

Speaker 9 (17:56):
Tremendous progress is being made. Their missiles are being wiped
out out rapidly, their launchers are being wiped out.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
They're attacking their neighbors.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
They're attacking there in some cases allies or that's so
long ago.

Speaker 5 (18:09):
Allies.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
A man in Tehran has got this message out to
the BBC.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
I'm in Tehran. During the past three days.

Speaker 11 (18:15):
I was completely disconnected on the internet until yes Saurday.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
There was bombardmentt here, very heavy bombard meant there are
made no difference. Twenty four hours a day day they're bombing.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Over in Australia, the Canadian Prime Minister Mark Karney has
been visiting Hiss had a little bit to say about
Iran as well.

Speaker 17 (18:32):
There's a distinction between the offensive actions that were taken
and are being taken by the United States and Israel.
We're not party to those actions, but we will always
defend Canadians. We will always stand by and defend our
allies and finally.

Speaker 9 (18:49):
Witness the greatest cover up in human history.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
An Italian researcher reckons she's found some archival documents that
claim that Michaelangelo had several artworks in a secret room
before his death. Apparently, he was so determined to ensure
his nephew didn't inherit all his works that he squirreled
some away in a hidden room in Rome. Now, before
you book yourself a ticket to Rome to go and
find the lost paintings. This particular researcher's work has not

(19:13):
yet been peer reviewed.

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Speaker 8 (19:22):
Old's Ossie correspondents with us A muss, very good afternoon, Heather.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
How's the CARNIEVI? Isit going?

Speaker 8 (19:29):
Yeah, look pretty well. I think looks it was always
going to go well. I suspect him. And there's a
bit of a bromance between mister Kearney and Albanezi. And
you know, I think it was underlined by Mark Carney
when he addressed the Parliament. It was a pretty somber warning.
I think about the demise as he sees it, of

(19:50):
the global architecture that's really sort of helped the thing
together since the end of the Second World War. He
says that he told Parliament that the global architecture is
breaking down the weight of crisis after crisis. He said,
Canada and Australia helped build the post war world and
delivered you know, global prosperity. But that's under threat, he says,

(20:10):
like never before. But he has expressed confidence that countries
like Canada, like Australia, those middle powers. He referred to
member that terrific line about if you're not at the table,
you're going to be lunch. He says that you know
that nations like Canada, like Australia, I guess like New
Zealand as well, can lead the way in repairing what's

(20:31):
left of the world order. He spoke of very strong ties,
both proud democracies that navigate the world and share the
same values and a common heritage, a common perspective, and
he says we can build a common future. So I think,
all in all, it's been a pretty successful visit here
for the Canadian Prime Minister, and I think to a

(20:52):
lot of a strangers saying bloody good he stood up
the Trump and gave him both barrels.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
I see you've got the first couple of hundred of
your lot back from the Middle East.

Speaker 8 (21:00):
Yeah, they got in last night, and I'll tell you what,
they were very very happy to get in, and so
were their loved ones and their families. But that leaves
about one hundred and fourteen one hundred and fourteen and
a half thousand. Ossie's still up there, and we understand
this afternoon that the Australian Defense Force is drawing up
plans to go and get them if they have to.

(21:24):
Penny Wong, the Foreign Minister, is still saying listen, commercial
flights remain the best option. We've had one out last
night to Australia. Others are leaving for the much closer
ports up in Europe. Of course, it's not an easy
thing to bring people in military aircraft down from the
Middle East to Australia. I mean it's a long, long way.

(21:45):
It's like in a Hercules. Goodness me, you have to
stop that three times, I suspect. But in any event,
they've got crisis teams up there right now. They left
I think yesterday up there to help local consular staff
try and make some sense out of what's happening, because
all these people want to get out. Aviation experts are warning,

(22:05):
by the way, that Australians just postpone any European travel
plans for five or six months because it's going to
be a mess. There's going to be all sorts of
potentially very expensive trips that might have to be canceled
because if war breaks out, you're not covered by travel insurance.
So you've done so if you've bought you know, tickets,
imagine buying business class flights to and from Europe will

(22:27):
be twenty thousand dollars and you've kissed that money. Good
buy if there's more conflicts. So they're saying hang on,
Penny Wong saying hang on. They're all saying we're doing
our best, and the Australian government is, as I say,
scrambling consular staff to fly to the Middle East, fly
into trouble. If you like to try and make some
sort of sense on the ground for all the osies,
for all the Australians who.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Are there, can you explain to me this business about
the school telling the kids, filming the kids going into
the toilets and whether this is okay.

Speaker 8 (22:56):
Yeah, well the parents seem to think it's okay. The
School of Saint Wrunga, which is up in northern Sydney
now recently Saint Leo's spent a great deal of money
refurbishing bathrooms for the kids. And it's a private school,
they can do it. They're like, there's no CCTV inside
the toilets, obviously, but there is CCTV across the school,

(23:20):
which I guess most schools have these days. And according
to Saint Leo's. They don't want their bathrooms to be
trashed by unrule these students, because they've spent a lot
of money on them. And what they're doing is monitoring
kids who go to the bathrooms during class time. All right.
I mean it sounds like there are teachers on duty

(23:44):
when the you know, it might be morning recess or lunchtime,
afternoon tea time or whatever, there are going to be
staff there patrolling the place looking at, you know, just
where the kids are and what are they doing. You
can't do that, of course when teachers are actually tea.
So if these kids are going to the bathroom heaving
toilet rolls around, shoving toilet rolls down the toilets and

(24:06):
some blocking them up, the school says bugger that. And
most parents have said, you know what, we're entirely on
your side. We don't want little Johnny coming home with
a detention because he's bummed up the bog. And I think,
you know, I think the school's getting thumbs up from
most parents.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, brilliant, good to hear, Maz, thanks very much, look
after yourself. Murrayo Old's Australia correspondent. I reckon that this
has got to be the most awkward thing of politicians
done in the last twenty four hours. This is the
Australian Shadow Treasurer Tim Wilson in the Aussie Parliament.

Speaker 15 (24:40):
There's a Billy Joel song that sounds kind of relevant.

Speaker 7 (24:44):
Do to Do To Do The treasure did start the
inflation fire.

Speaker 6 (24:49):
The inflation's burning while the Treasurer is squirming.

Speaker 15 (24:53):
The treasure did start inflation fire.

Speaker 16 (24:56):
Yes, I.

Speaker 7 (24:58):
Misorganized crime to feel.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
I love that. He's like, no, I'm committed to this
when that point of order. I'm listen, you're gonna do.
I love it. I love one hundred percent ten out
of ten for the idea. But get the cadence right.
Don't you reckon like you've got it. You're doing what
old mate did in love actually, and you're trying to
shove an the extra syllable into the song and it
just it's I love to start though, Do Do Do

(25:24):
Do Do. At least it's not one of ours embarrassing
us today. That very sobers with us.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Next politics with centrics credit check your customers and get
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Speaker 3 (25:40):
We've just had news actually, cal Cole McConkey is going
to be with us quarter past five on just how
wonderfully the Black Claps Black Caps played last night. It's
thirteen away from five and Barry Sober, Senior Political Correspondence
with US High bearing you know how Mark Carney's in
Australia at the minute. Yes, okay, which is this? It's
speak Well, it's because he doesn't know that we exist

(26:02):
and I present my evidence. I present my evidence. We're
speaking to the Australian Parliament in Canberra today and said,
let us remember that Australia was the first nation in
the world to give women the right to vote and
to stand for parliament.

Speaker 10 (26:14):
For goodness, take Apparently.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
They don't have Chat, GPT or Google in Canada. They've
got more speech, right David Seymour. And for the Prime
Minister today.

Speaker 10 (26:23):
Yeah, really interesting because as you'll be well aware that
Thursdays the Philly tame days when it comes to questions
in Parliament because the Prime Minister is not there. But
I thought David Seymour has been quite cunning today using
the absence of Chris Luckson to get patsy questions fired

(26:44):
of him by his own colleague Cameron Luxton. It was
Simola's way of showing how act supports some contentious issues
like liberalizing overseas investment. Of course, with the Golden Visas scheme,
which is very successful. Already three point five billion bucks
has flowed into the country, and that overseas investors will

(27:10):
be able to buy houses worth more than five million
bucks from tomorrow. So tomorrow's the kickoff date. I think
I'll put the full sale sign outside the house tonight.
But look, there were some other issues that seem or
reveled in while facing his colleague. Obviously pre rehearse questions
here they are.

Speaker 18 (27:30):
Does he stand by removing the dual mandate of the
Reserve Bank.

Speaker 14 (27:34):
Mister Speaker on behalf of the Prime Minister. Yes, absolutely.
Our government has told the Reserve Bank to focus exclusively
on controlling inflation.

Speaker 17 (27:44):
Does he stand by reforming interest deductibility for landlords.

Speaker 14 (27:48):
Mister Speaker on behalf of the Prime Minister. I absolutely
stand by our policy of treating people in the property
business exactly the same as every other business in the country.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
Does he stand by changes to pay equity Mister.

Speaker 14 (28:03):
Speaker on behalf of the Prime Minister. Absolutely.

Speaker 7 (28:07):
It is still.

Speaker 14 (28:08):
Possible to take an appeal if you suffer from sex
based discrimination and I say to the people on the
other side, if they don't like it and they're going
to bring pay equity back, show us the money you.

Speaker 10 (28:22):
Wow, that was quite a shrewd use, though I'm not
to say because he's got all the issues that really
act will be out campaign.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
It's not.

Speaker 10 (28:32):
It's not like pretty boring questions.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
So what I'm interested in though, were they facing questions
on TV and Z.

Speaker 10 (28:37):
Yes they were today or Paul Goldsmith was that's over
the alleged buyers that we had a fairly vociferous discussion
on last week about the story that basically on the
very day that the crime rate serious assaults came down
by forty nine thousand, they simply ignored that and ran

(28:58):
a story about gang membership rising by three over cops
and you know, just ignoring the obvious some labors Reuben Davison, though,
he suggested Minister Paul Goldsmith had broken the law by
discussing the issue with the board chair over the weekend.
Here he is firing questions which obviously tended to explode

(29:22):
in my view before they hit the target. Have a listen.

Speaker 19 (29:24):
Would it be appropriate for the chair of TV and
ZEN to raise the issue of one news media coverage
with the minister in.

Speaker 13 (29:33):
The context of a board focusing on improving levels of
trust and the issue that's been raised, I don't have
a particularly strong view. He probably shouldn't have, but it's
certainly not a major issue.

Speaker 19 (29:43):
Does he still have confidence in the man he appointed
his chair of TV and Z Andrew Barklay after he
discussed one news editorial coverage with the minister contrary to
the law.

Speaker 13 (29:55):
I do have confidence in the chair. I think he's
doing a great job now. As everybody's conscious all around
the world, particularly since COVID, there have been drops in
trust in media generally, we would expect the board to
be focused on the overall effort to improve those levels
of trusting.

Speaker 10 (30:12):
So there you go. I mean, it's ridiculous to suggest
that a board chairman can't wring his minister and so look,
I saw a story on television tonight. The Minister's not
going to take any action as a result of that.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
That would be there, but we don't know the content
of the conversation. That's the problem.

Speaker 10 (30:28):
Does it really matter.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Yes, it does, because it's not appropriate for the board
to be involved in editorial decision.

Speaker 10 (30:34):
But then the minister won't become involved in editorial decisions
anyway as a result of them being told, so you
know to.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Me, but I guess what the problem with it is
that you don't know what why did the board raise
it with the minister who had already complained to TV
and zed what was the board's interest in raising it?
It just opens up too many questions. Having said that, though,
can I say it's very hard to feel upset about
all of this when actually the worst thing that's happened

(31:02):
here is not the phone call. It's the bloody story.

Speaker 10 (31:06):
Cost The story was a shock, And I think if
I was sitting on the board at TV and Z,
I'd be pretty hosed off. I wouldn't, I'd stop. Sure, Yeah,
because the law see it.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
So if it was awesome journalists, if it was awesome journalism,
that the board was suddenly involving itself, and I think
we'd all be a little bit more upset about it.
But the boards itself involving itself and some apparently some
pretty cruddy journalism, rightly, Okay, Barry Listen, thanks very much,
appreciate it, very so. For Senior Political Correspondence. Seven away
from five now four away from five. I don't know
if you remember this, but a couple of years back,

(31:36):
maybe last year, the Taxpayers Union went really hard on
some science funding that money that was coming out of
the Marsden Fund and being spent on some really dumb projects.
It was just and it was bits and bobs here,
like one hundred thousand, there, a couple hundred thousand, and
it all added up to several million. They are going
hard on this stuff again. They've got another example for you,
which is a scientific research project within Massi University that's

(31:58):
cost US nearly one hundred and sixty thousand dollars essentially
to plant a garden of kumitter. So the project's purpose
was the revitalization of traditional harpoo practices to observe and
record the deep cultural and spiritual significance that cultural practice
is connected with the natural world. Hold the Mara tautana
acts as a symbolic icon to enable a connection between

(32:20):
the spiritual world and the physical world. It is a
symbol of mildi connectedness and inseparability from the natural world.
So I had a look at it. It looks like
the committer bed looks around about I want to say
about the size of a queen bed like a bed
bed like a queen bed size. It's got like three
rows of kermita, it's got five white poles around it,
and then a wooden fence and a bit of garden

(32:41):
matting stuff. The research outcomes included a storybook, a twenty
minute cultural video and growing committer to offer to the
sky gods. Jordan Williams is not happy about this, and
he's with us on the huddle, so we'll have a
chat to him then Chris Bishop, Transport Minister.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Next.

Speaker 18 (33:02):
Now I'm not sasday never met us.

Speaker 9 (33:06):
Let us go yesterday.

Speaker 18 (33:08):
No one shot its way here this day.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
The only drive show you can trust truck to ask
the questions, get the answers, find a fag and give
the analysis. Here the duplicy el and drive with one
New Zealand and the power of satellite mobile news dogs
there be.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Afternoon. There's concerned the government is lining up to scrap
the clean car standard altogether. Now this is the twin
of the ute tax. It's the other part of the
policy which charges importers if they bring in too many
vehicles that produce high carbon emissions. Chris Bishop is the
Minister of transporting with us.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Now, Hi, bish good?

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Would you would you seem well, thank you? Would you
consider seriously consider scrapping it?

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Well, we're having a look at it.

Speaker 20 (33:52):
I mean we're doing a first principle's review of the scheme,
so sort of by definition that involves, you know, looking
at the rationale for why you need it in the
first place. Be fair to say not that many people
are keen on scrapping it all together. You know, we're
going through a process with industry right now, and you
know we do want to see cleaner cars in New
Zealand over time. But we're doing the first principles review
of the scheme and the simple reality is the old

(34:14):
version was not working. I might remember at the tail
end of last year we had to change it very
quickly because unless we did, the price of a whole
range of cars was going to very quickly rise on
the first of January this year because of the way
the scheme was working. So everyone's sort of into the
idea of a clean car standard so that the vehicle fleet,

(34:34):
you know, gets more fuel efficient over time and more
carbon friendly. But we've just got to find something that works,
and that's what we're doing at the moment.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Is this a case of you just having to adjust
how many emissions I suppose you tolerate before this thing
kicks in.

Speaker 7 (34:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (34:49):
So basically what happened is Labor set this very ambitious
scheme in place in twenty twenty one or two, and
you know, world leading, but that all comes with costs. Right,
came in in twenty twenty three and adjusted it and
brought it back more in line with comparable jurisdictions. And
as it turned out that even that was very difficult,
and we just couldn't get the supply of vehicles into

(35:11):
the market to the point where all the people doing
the imports we're going to face penalties as a result
of the cars they are importing. Now what does that
mean in practice? That just gets passed on to consumers. Right,
So what was going to happen unless we acted at
the end of last year was the price of a
whole range of cars that many New Zealanders would drive
and buy and rent on a daily basis would have

(35:34):
gone up quite substantially. The amount varied, and it's complicated,
but that would have gone up, There's no doubt about that.
So we stopped that at the end of last year
we acted and so everyone's going on about an affordable
New Zealand, including the Labor Party.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
By the way, they voted against that.

Speaker 20 (35:47):
So the Labor Party voted to raise the price of
secondhand and new cars last year, and they're running the
slogan at the moment about how we need an affordable
in New Zealand. So they voted to make cars more
expensive last year. We've fixed that.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Okay, now, So am I right in thinking that what's
happened here is you're going out on a first principles
review and going out to consultation. One of your questions
has to be do we get rid of the thing altogether?
The ev lobby group of how to look at that
and got excited. That's basically what's that's right?

Speaker 20 (36:14):
Yeah, we're just looking at what's the public policy rationale
for it? Is it a good idea?

Speaker 7 (36:20):
You know?

Speaker 20 (36:20):
Is there a market failure here that we need to
try and correct. So we're just we're just answered, We're
just asking the logical, sensible questions, will work our way
through it, and once we've made a decision as to
what we're going to do, well.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Hey, while I've got you, Wayne Brown says, absolutely, no
way is he giving you your maps so you can
see what the density looks like in.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
All, I don't want I.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Didn't ask him for the maps.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
No, I didn't.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
I didn't read on the Herald.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
No I know that, but that's not accurate.

Speaker 20 (36:48):
This is very frustrating that the letter I wrote to
him does not ask for maps. I'm happy to and
I've published the letter or the letters now online. I
asked for a summary of the zoning changes the government
would like. I did not ask for maps. Map gates over.
We've got to, you know, we've got to stop trying
to make map gate happen. It's not happening.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Thanks very much, Chris Bishop, Minister of Transport, Minister of
Housing and like not really an opponent of Wayne Brown
at all, honestly. Five to eleven due for cel the
government's telling kiwis in the Middle East to register on
safe travel and preparation of evacuation. Two Defense Force aircraft
will be leaving New Zealand in the coming days to
help those keys, and Judith Collins is the defenseman to
stand with us. Hi, Judith, oh, Hi, Heather, how many

(37:30):
keys do you think you're going to have to move?

Speaker 21 (37:33):
Well, we know that there are around three thousand who
have registered on safe travel, which is obviously the Minister
of Foreign Affairs or in facts website, but we think
that there are probably thousands more. So that the movement
will be out of the danger zone into another country

(37:56):
relatively close by that is not in dangerous moment.

Speaker 18 (38:01):
It won't be all the way back here.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Yep.

Speaker 21 (38:03):
We can't bring people all the way back here now.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Could you even move from one place to a nearby
place three thousand people.

Speaker 21 (38:12):
Well, if they wanted to go, we would simply have
to make it happen, but we would have to obviously
do it in relays and we have to deal with
it that way. I think you'll find quite a lot
of people will not want to move because they're based
now in the Middle East, and for those who do,
we are making this available.

Speaker 18 (38:32):
Now.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
How long are we preparing as a country for this
particular war that's going on at the moment to last
or we don't.

Speaker 21 (38:41):
Know how long it's going to last, Heather. We haven't
been involved in the build up to it. We're not
involved in the discussions around it, we're not involved in
supplying anything for it. What we are thinking about though,
is that for New Zealanders who do want to leave,
that's we want to make sure we can help them
to do that if that's possible without unduly putting our

(39:01):
own defense people at an extreme harm's way. So and
also in fact people too, I shouldn't forget them. But
there's also the fact that we're obviously aware of the
straits of her May almost and how Iran is now
sending missiles off to neighboring countries. So we're very aware

(39:22):
of these issues. We've dealt with it beforeward. The who
these who were part of the funded out of Iran
attacks on ships going through the Red Sea. So we've
dealt with some unrest over the years, but we're not
sure how long it's going to go on for.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Are we going to put any equipment or people into
this warm.

Speaker 21 (39:45):
I think we need to be very realistic here, Heather.
We're number one, a hell of a long way away,
but number two, you can see the equipment that's going
on being used. Now, what are we going to send
what a train, a plane or hercules to do?

Speaker 2 (40:03):
What?

Speaker 21 (40:03):
We can send a Hercules to go and bring people out.
But let's be real here, it's not a war that
we we're part of the decision making on and it's
not a war where we've been asked to do anything
at all.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Okay, Judah, thanks very much. Look after yourself. Judith Collins,
Defense Minister, fourteen past five.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Heather do for see Allen Heather.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
I'm working in Roxburgh today and it hit thirty three
degrees at two o'clock this afternoon, according to the Ute
Summer as late. Oh Ben, best bloody news I've had
all day? How about that hot weather coming back? Now,
I'm sorry to say unfortunately, because we're an exporting nation
and we rely so much on China. But China has
just set its official target growth rate at between four
and a half and five percent this year. Now, given

(40:44):
what we're going through, that probably doesn't sound too bad,
but that is the lowest target they have set since
at least the nineteen nineties, and if their economy does
expand at a rate below five percent this year, it
will be the slowest growth reported by the country in
more than three decades, excepting, of course, for the over
pandemic years. So yeah, if you're trading with China, and
if you're relying on China's money coming in might as

(41:06):
well just bear that in mind. It's not looking all
that flash. So a chat next to Cole MCCONKI News TROGSB. Okay,
So the guys at bid have got me driving the
car that they are all excited about at the moment,
which is their smallest one, it's the Atto one. And
what's got them excited about this little thing is the price.
It starts at twenty nine nine to ninety plus on
road costs, and I'm telling you you're not gonna believe

(41:26):
what you're gonna get for less than thirty thousand dollars here.
It's got all the safety stuff. It's got the adaptive
cruise control lane keepersyst automatic emergency bracing, which I think
is going to give you the peace of mind if
one of the kids is buying. This is a first
car for UNI. But what I really love here as
well is the space. It is the smallest car they've got,
but i'll tell you what it is not small inside
ample their groom. You can fit the car seats for

(41:47):
the kids in there, three hundred and eight leaders of
boot space and over a thousand if you drop the
back seats as well, and then you've got all the tech.
You got the ten point one in touchscreen, You got
the parking cameras. I can't get over the parking cameras.
By the way. It's it's a small car, so you
can park pretty much anywhere. But let me tell you
how easy the parking cameras make it. When you can
see everything from a bird's eye view, it's just a dream.

(42:08):
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You're gonna have to check it out. Visit byd auto
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Speaker 2 (42:20):
Heather duper se Ellen.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Right now it is nineteen past five. Now fair to
say the black Caps knocked that one out of the
park last night, didn't they. They smashed the previously unbeaten
South Africa. They are now in the T twenty World
Cup Final. Off spinner. Cole mcconky put on a performance
and he's with us now.

Speaker 22 (42:37):
Hey Cole, Hey, Heather, thanks lot for having us.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
You have you you've had a sleep? How are you
feeling about what you did last night?

Speaker 8 (42:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (42:45):
I had a sleep for Yeah, We got together in
the team room last night and had a drink to
kind of reflect on the game and heah, nice to
wake up this morning and to some good messages and yeah,
looking forward to what the next few days kind of
how that unfolds.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
And have you spotted for now in this morning? Is
he looking like the cat that's got the cream?

Speaker 22 (43:07):
No, I haven't spotted for yet. He's a good sleeper,
so I'm sure he'll be tucked away. But that was
some sum innings and he had to put out a
performance like that in a semi final from him, that
was incredibly special.

Speaker 7 (43:19):
Cole.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
You've seen a fair bit of cricket. Air played a
fair bit of cricket. Have you ever seen anybody do
that with a bat before.

Speaker 22 (43:25):
I've seen him do it against Canterbury once or twice
and the domestic stuff. But as I say, like, you know,
that's some world class striking. That's as good as it gets.
And you had to do that on a big stage,
you know, really special for Finn and supported nicely by
Tim Seifert up top and the way that they kind
of set that toe in the run chase. That's as

(43:48):
good at hitting as you ever see.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Yeah, Cole. Tell you what's amazing if you you know
probably I mean you you know better than me, but
you you almost weren't there. If it wasn't for Mark
Bracewell's injury, you wouldn't have been there.

Speaker 22 (43:59):
Yeah, Yeah, it's been a pretty well win few weeks.
To be fair, I was, yeah, sat in the hotel
room in Vicago before a Ford Trophy match against Otago
down there, and yeah, I got a call unfortunately, Yeah,
Michael Bracewoll was ruled out with injury and had to
get on a flight pretty quickly over here to India.

(44:21):
And yeah, the last couple of weeks have kind of
come and been yeah, very quickly, but yeah, very thankful
for the opportunity, and yeah, amazing to be over here
and experiencing this.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Okay, if you have to choose between one of the
two squads you face, either England or India, who would
you rather face?

Speaker 22 (44:37):
Yeah, this question was getting thrown around a bit last night. Look,
to be fair, I think I'd personally, I'd love to
play against India. I think at the stadium there and
meant about one hundred and twenty thousand Indians would be
pretty special to you. Go about taking them down and
their home home ground. I think they'd be yeah, pretty special.

(44:59):
But both teams obviously very very good. So we'll see
how it unfolds tonight, but that would be my preference.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Yeah, Cole, thank you very much. Man, look after yourself
and congratulations again. That's Cole maconky black Caps off spinner.
By the way, Cole only bowled one over. He took
two wickets. Sorr. He did his, He did his. But
we're lucky he was there, Heather Chris Bishop for Prime Minister.
He can answer questions. Hmmm, well you might well revisit

(45:27):
already tried. He tried that. He tried that. He tried
that in December. Didn't work. But here's my prediction. Given
my predictions are real hot at the moment, aren't they not,
here's my prediction. You're going to be discussing that again
in a couple of days, maybe tomorrow, maybe on Monday,
because what I'm hearing is there's a poll that's going

(45:47):
to come out either tomorrow or Monday, and it is
it's bad, bad for it's bad for the National Party.
Like I it's bad bad with a capital B. Bad
with a capital be enough for you to go m
it'd be Chris Bishop for Prime Minister anyway. The guy
who may be putting out that pole, I think maybe
Jordan Williams, and he is with us before the end
of the souse. We'll have a chat to him when

(46:08):
he's in with the HRDLE. Shortly five point twenty.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Two A hard questions strong opinion here the duplicy el
and drive with one New Zealand and the power of
satellite mobile news dogs.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
They'd be Judith. God bless her for her frank appraisal
of New Zealand's defense for staves and stitches in Taranaki.
I think many of us were five twenty five question
for you, is it possible that the age of trade
me being used for the buying and selling of secondhand
household items is over? I asked this because trade me
is clearly realized that it's got a problem.

Speaker 8 (46:38):
Right.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
It's announced today that it's going to be scrapping it's
eight percent success fee because customers have told them the
fees they charge it is far too high. I couldn't
agree more. I sold a bunch of baby stuff I
wasn't using anymore on trade me last month. It was
like a rocker and a bath and a baby food cooker,
that kind of thing. I will never use trade me
for that again. By the time I taken the photos
and then put the ads up, then sold the things,

(47:00):
then box them up, then marched them down to the
post shop, then dispatched them to bloody Sedden, and then
gone back to the buyer to tell them the cost
of the postage. It wasn't worth my while it was
way too much admin, but especially when I saw how
little money I was actually getting for all of that effort.
After trade me had taken out an eight percent success fee,
and then two percent for using their ping payment service,

(47:21):
which they own, and then about six dollars just for
listing the item in a decent way, there wasn't actually
that much left. If you're selling something for about fifty bucks,
you've lost eleven of that to them, as about twenty
percent of it, And most of the stuff I sold
sold for a song, and some of the stuff I
could just couldn't sell at all. Maybe part of the
problem is that you don't have to go to trade
me anymore to get something for a good price. It

(47:42):
is now the age of the cheap shop that is
actually still quite cool, because why would you spend one
hundred bucks on a second hand breast pump when you
can just go down to kmart and buy a decent
one for forty five dollars. And if that's the money
I'm now getting, I may as well just give my
stuff to my friend who's just had a baby instead
of spending the adman on collecting a little bit of
money for myself. I just wonder if with Facebook, Facebook's

(48:05):
marketplace being free for buyers and sellers, and Kmart being
affordable and reasonably cool, the age of buying other people's
second hands on trade me is coming to an end.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Heather Duplicy Ellen.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
By the way, the other thing that trade Me's done
is it stopped us being able to do the bank transfers,
so you have to use alf the pay or ping
which they own and take a cut from, or you
have to use cash. It's just the whole thing's just
getting too hard, isn't it. Anyway, we'll talk to them
after six o'clock, boys doing terrorism expert on that. Next.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather Duplicy Ellen
Drive with One New Zealand coverage Like no one else
news talk, sa'd be.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
Don't need a camera a con I'll remember continuing on
what you're looking at? Which are the markets you're looking at?
Read the Iran situation, it's it's at the moment kind
of okay. The oil price obviously is a bit of
a thing. Sam, Dicky's going to be with us in
in ours time, took us through what the second and

(49:08):
third round effects and unintended consequences are. So looking a
little bit further ahead than we are right now. So
he's going to be with us. Just after half past
huddle standing by right now. It's twenty five away from
six now. The heads of the SIS and the GCSB
have fronted parliament Select Committee outlining what they see as
the biggest threat to New Zealand's safety. Spotlight's not on
any other place in the world, China around, nothing like that.

(49:29):
It's teenage boys. They say their active investigations are starting
to resemble a year thirteen boys' school classroom. John Battersby
is a senior fellow at Massi University Center for Defense
and Security Studies and with.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Us Now, Hi John, Hello, Heather, how are you well?

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Thank you? Are you worried? About teenage boys.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
I've always been worried about teenage boys. I think, just
just the way that I would say, there's a risk here,
and that risk is increasingly being aggravated by the presence
of online extremist material that's been created by individuals, possibly
even by AI consciously aiming to get recruits among a

(50:11):
certain age group, I suppose, and that sort of age
group is vulnerable to that kind of thing. So yeah, look,
there's an increasing risk around that area. It's not going
to get any less whether I would say it was
a threat or not. And that's a bit different. A
threat is where something is organized, somebody's planning something, and
they're on the way to commit it. So I think

(50:32):
probably what we've got here is a bigger it's a
bigger haystack to go looking through in terms of where
a possible threat might emerge from.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
It sounded like what's going on here is these boys
and I am I'm you know, I'm not quoting for beatim,
but that these boys are interested in doing something and
so they sift through a whole bunch of ideologies to
find one that they like that will justify what they
want to do. Is that what you think is going on.

Speaker 5 (50:59):
It's one of the kind of things that are going on.
There are others that are probably drifting around a little
bit soullesced and are quite where they fit in. I mean,
we've all been ceteing before, right, it's a bit of
a it's a strange age. So I think there's probably
several things going on. That's one of them. The other
one is where do we fit in? How do we

(51:19):
fit in? Oh, here's something that could include us in
terms of understanding the world that doesn't quite make sense anymore.
There's always I suppose with boys, they do tend to
be a little bit more aggressive. Here's a way that
we can express that's that aggression, and off we go.
So a range of a range of little problems.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
I think what boys are we talking about here?

Speaker 5 (51:46):
I think we're probably talking about a fairly small minority
of individuals who possibly don't feel they belong somewhere a
little bit detached from the real world, possibly spending two
much time looking at what's going on in the computer screen,
not really being challenged critically in terms of questioning what's

(52:07):
in front of them, and ending up in sort of
echo chamber type environments. Where they're getting the same kind
of stuff reinforced, possibly looking for an excuse to express
some form of aggress.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Are we talking about what we would have considered in
the school yard to be the loners?

Speaker 5 (52:27):
I don't know about that. I think maybe, But you know,
there's an awful lot of people that don't quite fit in,
they don't fit into the rest of the rest of
society or rest of the school yard, that keep to
themselves in unknown through whatsoever. I think I was probably
one of them, So you know, I don't know about that.

(52:47):
I don't know if i'd start putting labels on it.
We are dealing my feet with a very small minority
of people who really don't fit in and don't know
where where they're going to go. Are vulnerable in those
of the people, all debts are big. Look debt by
our agent, John.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
It's good to talk to you always as thank you, mate,
John Badisbee Massi University Center for Defense and Security Studies,
seeing your fellow twenty away from six the.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty A name you
can trust locally and globally.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
On the huddle with me this evening got Jordan Williams
Taxpayers Union and Gareth Hughes, who is the director of
the Well Being Economy Alliance and of course a former
Green MP. Hello you two, Gareth, you worried about like seriously, right, seriously?
Are you worried about the scrapping of the clean cast standards?

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Oh?

Speaker 23 (53:34):
I am? I mean why on earth would we want
to be alongside Russia as two of the only country.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
But we're not actually going to do We're not really
going to do it though, are we.

Speaker 5 (53:42):
Well, it would be ridiculous not to.

Speaker 23 (53:44):
I mean it would fail basic economic common sense and
ultimately lead consumers.

Speaker 5 (53:49):
To pay more.

Speaker 23 (53:50):
So I don't know why if you're wasting time, you know,
consulting on this particular question.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
Jordan, go oh come on mate.

Speaker 18 (53:59):
You know how the works, don't you doesn't actually lead
to any but this creen car discount Well, clean car
regulations don't actually reduce the number of emissions. And if
you seriously think the government saying you have to import
cars of X standard doesn't make it more expensive for consumers,
I mean, you know that's not since on stilts. The
whole thing that annoys me with this is it's this

(54:21):
illusion of action and to compare us with Russia is
just come on, you're.

Speaker 5 (54:26):
Better than that.

Speaker 18 (54:27):
New Zealand has a comprehensive emissions trading system that is
a cap and trade, So every extra emission that you
have on the road it has to come from somewhere else.
So if you pay more to reduce transport emissions, it
simply frees up carbon credits or makes them cheaper for

(54:48):
emissions elsewhere. It's a total false economy. It really grates
me these lobbyists that get in the media and say, oh,
you know, this is bad for the environ it's going
to more emissions and things like that. It is simply
not true. And actually you've got to call it out
because this is actually why New Zealand is poor. We

(55:09):
have these regulations that make it more costly to live
for consumers and it actually does nothing for the environment.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
Garreth, can you respond to.

Speaker 23 (55:20):
That this is kind of the logic that we should
invest billions and charge electricity consumers to build now in
g terminal high upfront costs, high ongoing costs. You have
port these expensive and increasingly expensive fossil fuels, where we've
got cheap soul of power that we get for using
this is the same false equivalency that Jorking's using. You know,
if we have more efficient vehicles, they're going to be

(55:42):
cheaper for consumers to use. We've got one of the oldest,
most least efficient vehicle fleets. And it's not me comparing
it to Russia. This is the Motor Industry Association pointing
out that almost every other advanced economy in the OECD,
except US in Russia will.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Be doing this.

Speaker 5 (56:00):
Not a smart stab at all.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
That Russia thing is a fact, and that is why
this government will not get rid of it all together
right because it would it would be the climate lovees
will absolutely hammer.

Speaker 10 (56:12):
Them for it.

Speaker 18 (56:13):
We are unable to We are unable to import a
Japanese cars and as a result we have even older
cars left on the road. Because it's all very well
for the three of us having this conversation, but for
viewing his Isleander on the minimum or even average way,
and you're struggling to fill your tank as it is,
you want an affordable car. The fact is politicians coming

(56:37):
in saying we need Rolls Royce standards and we know
best than that over the lifetime of the car or
what are according to our modeling don't worry at sunshine.
It's going to be cheaper. Is not the consumer choice
that tends to lead to lower.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
Prices, Jordan, while I've got you, have you guys got
a taxpayers Union poll coming out tomorrow?

Speaker 18 (56:58):
Yes, we do have a poll tomorrow, Heather. I think
it's be one that that's likely to attract a little
bit of attention.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
I've heard it's bad for national is it?

Speaker 5 (57:07):
I couldn't.

Speaker 18 (57:08):
I couldn't be possibly comment. I as a habit we
give the heads up to the various politicians and parties
and party leaders as a courtesy before the poll has
made public. But I, based on the journalists calling me today,
I suspect there'll be a few eyes on end boxes
in the morning.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Okay, give me get one to five out of out
of five. How bad is it for the NATS?

Speaker 5 (57:28):
Heather?

Speaker 18 (57:29):
Come on, it's been it's been a tough few weeks
for that. There's no sex. It has been a tough
few weeks for the government. This pole may or may
not reflect that.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Okay, all right, we'll take a break. Come back to
you guys. Shortly sixteen away from six.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
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truly global brand.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
You're back with the huddle, Gareth Hughes and Jordan Williams. Gareth,
you still using trade me?

Speaker 23 (57:52):
No, I can't remember the last time I used it,
but I do have my kids swing which they've outgrown,
which you know. I see the changes with the six
So yeah, I mostly use the Facebook marketplace. Maybe I'll
use trade me.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
No, I hang on, let's work this out for you.
How much do you reckon? You get for that swing?

Speaker 18 (58:08):
Oh?

Speaker 23 (58:08):
I'm going to give it a spray paint. So I
reckon a couple hundred bucks.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
You've been on k Mart see if they can what
they're charging for a swing?

Speaker 5 (58:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 23 (58:19):
I know it's quite ridiculous. This is a beautiful old
metal and what one so okay, come up quite much?

Speaker 3 (58:23):
A couple of hundred bucks? My actually I reckon a
couple of hundred bucks. I might make the effort, Jordan,
what about you?

Speaker 8 (58:30):
Love?

Speaker 2 (58:30):
I love Garrett?

Speaker 18 (58:31):
Oh, now using news be and some of my swing
quick call up now get this to make my reading
of this, Emily is the trader in our household is
much fairer at this sort of thing. But I think
it's all Facebook Marketplace now, which I mean there's there's
obviously some dodgy stuff on there, but I don't think

(58:51):
it has any fees or any success fees. And I
suspect this is simply trade me having to adjust their
pitch to reflect the huge volume of people that are
now news Facebook.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
What are you people selling on Facebook marketplace?

Speaker 18 (59:05):
Jordan oh In My kids are always impeccably dressed, and
then seems to be able to sell the kid's clothes
more than she paid for them. She spots them, she
spots a bargain.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
I'm very very lucky.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Well, that's good. I see both you both economically minded,
So that's good. Gareth. I have come to the conclusion
I've reached. I didn't want to reach this point, but
I've reached the point where I think that rural families
will have to pay for their own school buses if
there are not enough family in the area to justify
a school bus.

Speaker 23 (59:34):
What do you think, Well, I think we're particularly talking
about the case in the region. I'm from tartarfidy Gisborne,
and you know this is I think outrageous. They've been
given seven weeks notice they might end up having to
travel two hours round trip because the school bus service
is being dropped without consultation. You know, it's just a
bureaucrat lead process. So look, we need to have a

(59:55):
national conversation about this, so we can't just spring it.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
On rural seven weeks enough, Gareth.

Speaker 23 (01:00:02):
No, when you're you know, the school year has only
just started. I mean, these are people who are working
hard on farms and in rural communities. This is going
to you know, two hours extra out of their day
is going to have a huge impact on their lives.

Speaker 9 (01:00:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Well I was with the ruthless efficiency of a working
mother Jordan. I was like, don't worry, I can sort
out a bus in seven weeks for everyone. Am I
being unrealistic?

Speaker 18 (01:00:21):
Well, I'm going to go socialists and squishy here and
agree with Gareth. I mean part of part of New
Zealands in many ways as cross subsidizing rural communities obviously roads,
school buses is another one. I think it's a I
think it is pretty and actually it's a false economy.

(01:00:42):
If kids can't go to the local rural skill or
the not so local rural skills it's a couple of
hours away, it will mean more kids have to board
in town. It is more expensive.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
Fair point that you make Jordan talk to me about
this kermit a patch thing. How did we spend a
hundred sixty thousand dollars on a patch?

Speaker 23 (01:01:02):
Well, I I've only seen the information from Jordan's newsletter
as he's come out, so I'd love to wait to
see all the information and how this National Science Challenge
the results are being found. But you know, from what
I can see, this is not so much about growing
a patch of kumita. It's around the process and the
history and the culture, which I think is an important

(01:01:22):
subject for New Zealand to be looking into. This is
ultimately our history, and to be honest, I'm a little
bit disappointed about this because you know, I think we
should be celebrating Maori science matadonga and actually there's much
bigger fish to fry. We've got half the OECD average
spend as part of our economy percentage than the rest

(01:01:43):
of the OECD. Fonterra hasn't let a skill spend of
R and D. Being such a major exporter and player
in our economy, we should be focusing on actually increasing
our investment in science. Will stop not trying to attack
these very small amounts of science.

Speaker 18 (01:02:00):
Come on, Garret, but that the problem is we're not
putting enough money into science. And you're serious, snif because
look the reason why it's can different. You could make
the argument that's spending one hundred and fifty six thousand
dollars on a three meter bo three meter comra patch
and studying about that the role of wahim E Mailori

(01:02:20):
woman is to attend the garden. We should be studying
and promoting that. You can argue that that's all good value.

Speaker 5 (01:02:26):
I wouldn't, but you can.

Speaker 18 (01:02:29):
But you were using money. There's reserved supposed to be
reserved for the krem de la creme, New Zealand's best
scientific minds to solve the science in the National Science challenges.
And the reason this story came about is because and
it's taken nearly a year to get this out of

(01:02:49):
the public agencies, is because of when we discovered that
we were paying millions to record whales, sound, remix them,
play them to foreigtrists on the basis of the myths,
the myth that the cali is the brother of the
sperm whale. And you can say, oh, well, mean, maybe

(01:03:10):
we should be doing that as part of some cultural exercise.
But this is money for science. I do not understand
with the strength face how you can say the problem
is in the OECD we're not spending enough on research development,
and yet in the same breath you can defend research
and development money being used for that. I'm sorry. There
is a role for mardy knowledge that is not.

Speaker 5 (01:03:34):
Being what it's been used for, which is literally.

Speaker 18 (01:03:37):
Replaced so called colonial science. That's what the tax Payers
Union is pointing out and believing we've got more. Unfortunately
we've got This is just one of a series of
stories of this sort of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
We'll be keeping our eyes open for those. Jordan, thanks
very much in Gareth Hughes as well, Jordan Williams. Gareth
Hugh's a huddle this evening, seven away from six.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
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Speaker 18 (01:04:05):
Hither.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
I live in Auckland. There was no school bus from
my child's school, so we organized one and we paid
for it ourselves and it just took a couple of weeks.
Jonathan Jonathan worked with the ruthless efficiency of a working
mother that Jonathan did here that the whole emission scheme
is just another tax making New Zealanders poorer by the day. Amen,
The ETS is a bloody joke. If you realized how
much you were paying, and listen, I tell you what.

(01:04:25):
If you sat down, if somebody did the numbers and
went you are paying this much in ETS every day
with your electricity and your petrol. You just bust it,
you bust of valp. It's just a huge amount of
money and it's making no bloody difference to the climate.
It all out of this country anyway, weight loss jabs,
they are just pumping out the good news about these things.
You know what I'm talking about. The old wig VI
and oz pic and stuff. Looks like they now help

(01:04:47):
people stop getting addicted to drugs and alcohol. This is
according to a US study that's been printed in the
British Medical Journal. May help people avoid getting addicted to alcohol, tobacco, cannabis,
cocaine could also reduce the risk of people who are
old ready addicted to substances having an overdose, ending up
in hospital or dying. Now they think is because they
think that what happens is it MUCKs up. It MUCKs

(01:05:08):
the brain MUCKs with the brain's reward pathways, so it
cuts the cravings. So it's not just food cravings, it's
then cutting. It's everything. It's the drugs, it's the alcoho
you just don't crave. It actually backs up with a
friend of mine is doing the jabs, has been doing
it for a bit, and that's what she said that
she found. She found that not only was she eating less,
but she was because she loves she loves loves the gin.

(01:05:28):
She's drinking less. She was And this is the one
that I thought was most interesting. She was scrolling on
the phone less because she all of a sudden didn't
need that dopamine, you know, pleasure thing response from just
doom scrolling. So if you've got I don't know, maybe
we should. Maybe I'll tell you what instead of an
instead of a fan on the under sixteens on the
social media, just go around jab in the mall and

(01:05:48):
they won't be interested in it anymore.

Speaker 18 (01:05:50):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Let's talk to trade me next News talk ZB.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Keeping track of where the money is flowing The Business
Hour with Heather duper Clan and mas Insurance and Investments.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Your future is in good hands, U Storg zb.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
Evening. Coming up in the next hour, Sam Dicky with
his thoughts on what investors should be considering read the
war in Iran, Jamie McKay on how good it's looking
for farming profits, and then Sam Dicky with the ongoing
travails for the UK Prime Minister. Seven past six, Trade
meek has made a major change to the marketplace section
of its website. Casual Sellers will no longer have to
pay an eight percent success fee when they sell something.

(01:06:40):
Buyers are going to have to pay a service fee
when they buy something for twenty bucks or more, but
that fee caps out at five bucks. Lisa Stewart is
the head of Marketplace for trade me Hi Lisa, Hi, Heather,
are you doing this because the fees that you were
charging were putting people off?

Speaker 16 (01:06:55):
We are doing this in response to customer feed that
We're constantly listening to what our customers are telling us,
and we hear two things. The first is they really
value the trust and protection that we provide, but that
fees were becoming a bigger hurdle to selling, and so
we're looking to respond to both of those with the changes.
For announcing today.

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
How much were people ending up paying in fees.

Speaker 16 (01:07:17):
Well, let's walk for an example. I've got a stroller
up for sale at the moment a PRAM, and I'm
hoping to get about one hundred dollars for it. So
at the moment, for that one hundred dollars sale, i'd
pay about eight dollars and success fees. With these changes,
that eight dollars will be no more and I could
pay a round about two dollars in ping transaction fees.

(01:07:39):
So as a seller on that hundred dollar item, I'd
be keeping round about six dollars in my back pocket.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
The bit better because it's not just the success fees,
isn't it. It's the fees that you charge for listings
that could be like six bucks. Once you've gone for
a subheading, and you've gone for a you know, a
reserve price and all that kind of stuff, and then
you've then you've got the paning fees as well, So
it could end up being what like maybe as much
as sixteen dollars that you're paying for one hundred dollars.

Speaker 16 (01:08:07):
Prem depends on the choices that you make. So when
you list on trade me, the success fee has has
been the mandatory bits everyone will pay a success fee.
I mean, all those other add ons are your choice entirely,
and so if you don't want to pay any of
those extras at the moment, you don't have to.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Okay, you're keeping them, are you as they are?

Speaker 16 (01:08:28):
We are keeping them as choices.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Yet, I mean, so it's lower, but it is still
more expensive than Facebook Marketplace, which means that it is
still maybe too high, don't you think.

Speaker 16 (01:08:40):
Well, Facebook, as you say, is free, but it doesn't
offer any of the safety or protection that we offer.
We've got Ping is a really safe and secure way
to pay, and when you pay with Ping, we cover
you with bioprotection. So we're putting that protection up with
these changes as well, up to five thousand dollars. You
don't get any of that on Facebook. We do need

(01:09:03):
to keep the platform operating though, with these changes, and
that's what the service fee for buyers is going to cover.
It enables us to keep the platform operating and to
offer New Zealand based support.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
So why are you getting rid of the bank transfers?

Speaker 16 (01:09:19):
Well, the sad fact is that, whilst rare, nearly all
unresolved scams on trade me involve bank transfer and once
somebody's transferred money into another bank account, that money is
often gone forget. We don't have any visibility over any
of those payments, and so if something does go wrong,

(01:09:40):
it makes it really hard for us to step in
and help. So we're getting rid of bank transfers to
make the site safe for buying and selling.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
But this doesn't mean this doesn't prevent let's say I'm
the one selling the prem it doesn't prevent from me,
the seller of the prem and the buyer of the
prem from privately organizing our own bank transfer right.

Speaker 16 (01:10:00):
Our bank transfers will now be against our policies, and
we've got teams of folks who scan the site to
check that nothing dodgy is going on. If they catch
that that kind of behavior is happening, then we'd look
to educate our customers on why our policies are what
they are.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Isn't this ill, Lisa, Isn't this you just funneling finding
another way to make money, because then you're funneling everybody
through ping, which you own, and you can clip the
ticket with two percent.

Speaker 16 (01:10:26):
The ping fee isn't changing as a result of these changes.
We've had ping on our site for a number of
years and the transaction fee of two point one nine
percent isn't changing as a result.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
I'm not saying it is. I'm not saying it is.
What I am saying is, as somebody who recently sold
stuff on trade me, my preference was to use a
bank transfer because then it was in my account. What
you're now doing is saying I can't do that. I
have to use potential after pay or ping, which you own.
Therefore you can clip the ticket again by two percent.

Speaker 16 (01:10:55):
We're offering three different payment options after these changes. Yeah,
after pay or cash okay, and so those are the
three options that will be that we'll be offering, and
we support both ping and after pay with our buyer protection.
So if anything does go wrong and you're using those
payment methods, then we've got your back.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
Listen, Lisa, I have to put this to you because
it's an idea that I kind of pitched earlier on,
which is is it possible that the age of trade
me is over? Because it is now possible to buy
stuff for so much cheaper and yet it'd be reasonably
cool at places like kmart.

Speaker 16 (01:11:32):
Millions of key we come to trade me every month
to buy and seal, and we're pretty proud of the
role that we've played over the last twenty six years
and helping Kiwi to do that. In fact, something is
bought or sold on trade me about every four seconds,
and so this is really about continuing to improve our
experience and make sure we're really well set up for
the next twenty six years.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
Lisa has been good to talk to you. Thank you
very much for talking us through it. That's Lisa Stewart,
Trade Me, head of marketplace. Here the shure, the list
fees of choices. But if you don't you'll you'll bog
down under all of the retailers, get them off and
back to the secondhand goods only it was much But
actually Ross makes a very good point. If I don't
know if you try to buy anything on trade me lately,
but you do get there are people who have like
commercialized it, right, so you can go on there buy

(01:12:16):
I bought some stuff that's not bad, like a kid's
car seat for the bike type thing, but they just
they listed once and then they's pump it out to
everybody who keeps on buying it. Obviously on the Iraq Wars.
So a couple of things to know. Iran says it's
now struck Kurdish militant headquarters in Iraqi, Kurdistan because the
Kurds have crossed the border and started to fight. I

(01:12:37):
think Iran is striking so many different enemies at the
moment that it's got. It's fighting way too many fronts
because it's going to run out of missiles and we'll
running through those numbers, hopefully before this half hour is through.
Also another thing to know, Katar has evacuated the buildings
near the US embassies that I've obviously got some information
that something's about to happen. Fourteen past six.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
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Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Your futures in good hands. Use talks edb ehither.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
I use Ping as I get instant payment and my
buyers prefer to use it and not bank transfer. As
a buyer, I actively avoid the bank transfer sellers as
the hassle is just too much. Instead of instant transfer,
and I can also use my Ping account to buy products.
It's convenient and safe rees. You make a good point.
I suppose seventeen past.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
Six the Rural Report on Heather Duper c Allen Drive, sigh.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
Because it's just more admin. Do you know it's just
more admin because you're doing your business? But now I'm
just wanting to sell my breast pump, aun't i Jamie McKay,
Host of the Countries with me. Hello, Jamie?

Speaker 11 (01:13:48):
Are you sure you want to sell that breast pump? Heather?

Speaker 8 (01:13:51):
You never know?

Speaker 11 (01:13:51):
You might want number three?

Speaker 10 (01:13:53):
Mate?

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
Do you know what funny you should bring that up?
I was going to sell the breast pump, and then
I thought hanging a tech because apparently you get hormones.
I don't know if you know this, but like about
twelve months after the baby's born till about nineteen months
you get hormones. So you got to hold onto the
breast pump that whole time just in case. Thanks for
the advice.

Speaker 11 (01:14:09):
All right, Well that's probably over sharing, but I shouldn't
have introduced the topic.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
You started it here? What's the noise for that?

Speaker 7 (01:14:15):
Round?

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Is this?

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
You?

Speaker 22 (01:14:16):
On?

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
The way to share?

Speaker 17 (01:14:16):
Is?

Speaker 9 (01:14:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:14:18):
I'm at Wellington Airport and I found a really nice
quiet spot in the airport and then two blokes have
come along and they're erecting a screen, but I can't
move now. I'm committed to this spot. I'm just waiting
Heather for my golf clubs to come out through oversize,
and then I'm heading over the rim Atarkers tonight. To
be in Masterton tomorrow obviously, and Saturday for the Golden

(01:14:39):
Shares and World Sharing Champs and Wall Handling Champs. Really
looking forward to it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
I see you're going to be doing twenty four seven
hard work. Judging by the golf clubs arriving now, seems
to me the farmers are more farmers than ever are
making a profit.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
Is that right? O?

Speaker 11 (01:14:54):
Well, I don't know if it's more than ever, it's
certainly pretty positive. So this is the latest Federated Farmers
Confidence Survey and strong returns. It goes without saying record
returns for many sectors and obviously lower debt service and costs,
lower interstrates mean farmers are making a profit. As I said,
the Federated Farmer's Confidence SERVEO six hundred and fifty farmers,

(01:15:16):
seventy percent said their farm was currently profitable. And when
I heard this today, I thought gee, that number seems
a bit low, because if you can't make a buck
now and farming, you'll never make one. But I think
part of the reason is the downturn, especially in the
arable industry, and also like for the grape growers on
that so not every sector is profitable. But the good

(01:15:37):
news is either this is the highest level of confidence
or profitability since they Federated Farmers started their twice yearly
Farmer Confidence Survey way back in two thousand and nine.
The farmers are feeling most confident about the current economic conditions.
They haven't felt this confidence since twenty seventeen. And obviously,

(01:16:00):
as I said, commodity prices the key driver, followed by
lower interest rates. It's interesting when you do break it down,
eighty one percent of dairy farms are profitable. That in
itself's a bit of a surprise. Bearing in mind we've
come out of a really strong payout here, you would
think that more would be profitable. Arable farming continues to lag.

(01:16:20):
That's at the bottom of the pile, only forty one
percent profitable. A real worry for farmers is like a
lot of businesses having to recruit skilled and motivated staff
and The other issue, which is always an issue not
only for farmers but also for small business, is just
regulation and compliance costs. They're building up input costs and

(01:16:43):
obviously the government could go a long way there by
making some much needed changes to the RIMA.

Speaker 5 (01:16:49):
So there you go.

Speaker 11 (01:16:50):
That's the farmer confidence survey from the Feds here.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
That not bad at all. Hey, listen, you drive safely
and enjoy the golf and obviously the work as well.
Jamie McKay hosts of the Country on his way to
Masters and for the Golden Chairs, Heather. It's not just
the missiles that Iran is going to run out of.
It's the launchers because every time they fire one, the
Israelis and the Americans can find and destroy the Lord launcher.
That's interesting, Steve, So this is and then it's not

(01:17:13):
just that, but it's also the interceptors. Right, everybody is
going to run out of interceptors at some stage. So
this is why the race is on to find the
launches and take them out. So the missiles and actually,
by the way, the drones, because I don't know if
you're aware of this, but Iran is a bit of
They are actually quite good at making the old drones anyway,
So estimated before the war that Iran had more than

(01:17:34):
two thousand short range ballistic missiles. They think that by
earlier this afternoon, like I'm going to say mid day,
so it was six hours and on from midday, so
there'll be a lot more than this. But by about
mid day they were estimating Iran had already launched about
five hundred and seventy one of those around two thousand missiles.
It's about a quarter, it's more than a quarter. Right

(01:17:56):
on the drones, they've estimated tens of thousands of drones
with Iran, which they are, as I say, very good
at building. They've already launched about fourteen hundred of the drones,
and that's just in four or five days. There are
already signs that Iran is trying to ration the supplies
and running out of them because it's slowing down the launches.
So the ballistic missile launches are down eighty six percent

(01:18:17):
from the first day of fighting, and in just in
the last twenty four hours or so, it's dropped by
a quarter alon so it's taken a big old dunk
down and then the drone launches it down about seventy
three percent since the first day of fighting six twenty two.

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Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
It's been do you remember do you remember that bungle
that happened in Australia with the IVF clinic Monash and
they put the wrong embryos in the wrong mum, and
then the mum gave birth to a stranger's baby, and
then there was a second one which was like shortly thereafter.
They've done basically the same thing. It's been revealed that
they have settled with those families to the tunes of
tune of millions of dollars. Apparently it's hard to know

(01:19:06):
whether each family got several millions or whether the total
was several millions, but it's cost a lot of money.
And this includes the mum who gave birth to the
stranger's baby, the mum who actually is the biological mother
of that baby born to another mother, and then another
family from the second incident that was kind of the same.

(01:19:27):
Appears that it was mostly, if not entirely covered by insurance.
But yeah, get that one wrong, You'll be paying through
the nose six twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
There's no business like show business.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
How much money do you reckon you have to spend
in Las Vegas to get a street named after you? Well,
I asked that question and I can answer it for you.
Bruno Mars Park Avenue and Las Vegas right off the
strip will soon be renamed Bruno Mars Drive. And the
official reason for this is Mars's close relationship with Park
MGM Hotel and casino. Because he's had a recent a
residency at the hotel since twenty sixteen, been performing there

(01:20:03):
for basically a decade straight, some rumors have started to
bubble up about the reason that he did this residency
for so long. The outlet Las Vegas locally has recently
reported that he allegedly lost sixty eight million US dollars
gambling at MGM resorts between twenty nine and twenty twenty four.
That's about one hundred and fourteen million New Zealand dollars

(01:20:24):
and that's apparently all on the table games. Now. This
would support earlier rumors that Mars's extended residency with MGM
was a means to offset his debts, and it might
have worked because he's now going to tour for the
first time since twenty seventeen. But all of this is
just rumor. Mars has brushed the claims off by making
a few jokes. He told fans if they wanted him
freed from his contract, they had to stream his new album,

(01:20:48):
The Romantic, which came out on Friday. Bow he's got
a taste for the old table. Zoe doesn't need other
sounds of things. Sam Dickey, who knows absolutely has none
of this nonsense, knows money the right way. He's going
to be with us next and talk us through what
we should be considering as investors. Three the Iran water
use talks.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
Hash tag I'm a dangerous man with the money.

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
You're so many criticism waking up?

Speaker 9 (01:21:20):
Why are you mad?

Speaker 15 (01:21:21):
Pretty say?

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
I thought they'll be just.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
What shut.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
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Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
Hey, I should have talked about this earlier. You will
have seen by now that the Parliamentary Select Committee has
backed the idea of banning the social media for the
kids under sixteen. Interesting so i'd note is that the
MP who initiated the Select Committee inquiry is unhappy with
the outcome. This is doctor Panje Palmer who's from the
ACT Party. She's disappointed with the outcome. She reckons the
committee members came to an inquiry with predetermined solutions twenty

(01:22:14):
five away from seven. Now, of course Iran has been
extremely topical, so we thought we'd get Sam Dicky of
Fisher Funds on talk us through what he thinks of
this high Sam, hey you here that have a go
very well, thank you, So talk about what investors should
be thinking. What should they do first when one of
these events hits.

Speaker 24 (01:22:31):
Yes, they these tragic human events, that's the first and
foremost thing. But secondly that they are kind of low
probability potentially high impact events, and you can't position your
long term portfolio around these events. Albeit they seem to
be higher probability these days because they're happening more and more.
But and foremost, triard you risk. So have a really
good hard look at your portfolio if this gets worse.

(01:22:53):
How am I exposed? So, for example, do I have
investments or trades on the lower conviction. Was I thinking
of about selling them yesterday anyway before the war. But
equally you need to be ready to play offense as well.
So if your portfolio is well positioned, you know your
companies very well, that they've got strong balance sheets and
they've got long term thinkers at the helm. Was there

(01:23:16):
something you were thinking about buying yesterday before the war started,
and now you getting the opportunity to buy that high
quality company at a much better price.

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
What framework do investors actually is?

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
Well?

Speaker 24 (01:23:28):
A famous US investors said, when it comes to geopolitics,
very few people really know anything at all. I'm not
sure where that apply it and pluy applies to the
people who are actually waging the war. But I think
everyone thinks they're an expert. But really history is the
only decent guy we've got. But you want to make
sure you look at the right history lessons. So you

(01:23:48):
want to make sure the conflict has the same or
similar most obvious risks. So when we're thinking about this one,
we should look at historical Middle Eastern conflicts. And if
you look over the past forty years, have been twenty
one US air strike campaigns in the Middle East and
North Africa region, and eight weeks later the S and
P five hundred was high in ninety five percent of time.

(01:24:09):
So that's the first and simple framework. But the most
important thing after that is how is that most obvious
risk transmitted to the big drivers of the game or
the big drivers of market. So how is a high
oil price going to impact global economic growth? How's it
going to impact inflation, how's it going to impact interest rates?
And how's it going to impact corporate earnings growth?

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
What about the second and third round effects and the
unintended consequences? How do the investors wait those?

Speaker 24 (01:24:38):
Yeah, I think that's a really good question, and that's
where the market is today. So oil is obviously the
first round impact. And then you've got to think about
what sectors and countries are most sensitive to oil prices.
And Asia in particular, while it has gone a long
way to reducing its short bias to oil, I mean
they have their big net importers of oil India in

(01:24:59):
particular and China they are still need importers, so they're
very sensitive to this. And the other thing is when
you're sitting at this is more simplistically, when you're sitting
in a boardroom and you're about to press the button
on a billion dollar capital spending program building a few factories,
and maybe you're a bit lying ball on it. I
imagine you perhaps wouldn't sign the check. So look look
at the real time indicators of confidence, both consumer and business.

(01:25:22):
And the final thing I'll say on this is going
back to when you look at your portfolio and you
ask yourself how high conviction you are. I think crowded
trades and investor positioning are really important. And look at
the Korean stock market in the last couple of days.
That was an extremely crowded trade. It's driven by two stocks,
and maybe investors were not quite as convicted as they
thought they were in that fiel twenty one percent in

(01:25:43):
two days.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
Okay, what does this all mean for investors?

Speaker 21 (01:25:46):
Then?

Speaker 24 (01:25:48):
I think, just again, make sure you really understand your company,
make sure you know what risk you've got on. And
if they are high quality, strongly positioned companies and they
are a lot cheaper today and they were yesterday, that
can be a buying opportunity. But just h sure you've
triaged you risk first.

Speaker 3 (01:26:02):
Yes, Sam, it's always good to talk to you, and
thanks for your advice at Sam Dickey, a Fisher funds.
Right now it's coming up to U. It's twenty one
away from seven really together. The company that listed on
the INS and X today, Tycho Critical Minerals shares have
doubled so open at eleven cents now sitting at twenty
two cents last time I checked, which is I reckon
about half an hour ago. They want to raise another

(01:26:22):
one hundred million dollars. These guys, by the way, are
mining on the West coast. They've got some private farmland
they're going to mine out at Barrytown Flats. They've could
consent to mine on sixty four hectares, also consent recently
to build a mineral separation plant at Rapahoe. They want
to raise another hundred million dollars for the project, but
they're going to do it later this year. They're going
to educate the investors first, so it's probably worth keeping

(01:26:44):
an eye on.

Speaker 10 (01:26:46):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:26:46):
Have a listened to this acain, have listened to this speech.
This is a politician giving a speech just recently. Tell
me where this guy's from?

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
Well way, do not you care this?

Speaker 18 (01:26:54):
Three?

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
Do you take up a lot of fools over here?
Because they tended is we are enough fools.

Speaker 9 (01:26:58):
We know what's happened in Ah these problems will cause Ye.

Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
No, he's not from Jamaica. He's not from Jamaica. This
is Thomas Gold of shin Fein speaking in the Irish
Parliament and he's not putting he's not putting on that accent.
Turns out the accents are just that similar that it
has exploded the Internet in both countries.

Speaker 4 (01:27:20):
Do be bliam in Blia, do't be bliam, and certainly
don't be blamant on Commission Anglala.

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
So it's sparked because everybody's got everybody everybody's got ironic
that I'm saying, everyone's got an opinion nowadays. I don't
have any, but everybody's got an opinion nowadays. And everybody
immediately jumped to the conclusion that obviously what's happened here
is that the Jamaican accent can can trace its origins
back to the Irish accent. There must been heaps of
Irish people who went and landed in Jamaica during the

(01:27:51):
formation the formative period of the Jamaican accent. Not at all. No,
that's not what happened. There is no there is just
no record of significant levels of Irish going to Jamaica
during that period of the accent forming. Turns out, it's
just a happy coincidence that both places ended up sounding exactly.
This isn't that weird. That's so weird. It's weird. You
just combine the elements and whoop, get the same concoction

(01:28:12):
coming out of somebody's mouth. Now I've got happy news
because we've been spent speaking today about selling your second
hand staff and buying your staff, and should you just
go to the shop and buy buy it new rather
than buying the breast pump secondhand? You want to get
yourself a computer? What about this one? Apple has just
launched its cheapest MacBook yet, in the Neo. The Neo

(01:28:32):
is going to sell for eleven hundred and ninety and
that just rounded ups. Put the extra dollar on and
say that's twelve hundred dollars. You spend twelve hundred dollars.
You need yourself a brand new MacBook. Apparently, And I
don't know anything about computers other than the fact that
I need to replace mine because every time I bring
my MacBook into this because you know something will go
wrong and the work wants me to do something with

(01:28:53):
it that I've got to take it somewhere for work.
I bring it in, my boss flips out about it
because it's anti consent, so antiquated it is. I am
not lying to you. It's so antiquated that if you
don't put that, if you don't charge it, it runs
like it doesn't work. So it hasn't actually got any
battery left in it. The battery lasts. I think probably
I reckon I could get a good half hour out

(01:29:14):
of it, and then it starts to die. So it's
it's basically it's not a laptop anymore, is that it's
just a computer. But then the charging cable is so
frayed that, like the plastic has completely disappeared at one
point and it's just down to its last like three
little bits holding.

Speaker 15 (01:29:28):
The still run though it does. Yeah yeah, yeah, So
I mean I think I think we just need a
new charging cable now. I don't need a whole new computer.
I mean, the boss has been able to cope every
time you've brought it in before. Well, this is a
great opportunity to do something for the planet. We don't
need to buy something new. We can just keep our
role the J, the J has.

Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
Been scratched out, the JAY on the keyboard has been
scratched out. So when you're doing your Tyrannosaur restricts typing,
you don't know how to write Jesus.

Speaker 15 (01:29:50):
Only that letter's gone, then you know, so long as
you don't lose another one.

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
This is basically this attitude from ants being like.

Speaker 15 (01:29:57):
So I just think a laptop should last for a
long time. Don't think that's unreasonable.

Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
Descendant of like poor immigrants once upon a time, same
as me. I just also made this thing last about
seven hundred years longer than it should have anyway.

Speaker 15 (01:30:09):
Great advert for Apple, and I know it's lasted.

Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
I know no built obsolescence in this one anyway. So
I opened the heir all today. Chris Keel, who writes
about the technology stuff, was like, hey, listen, this Neo
is awesome for half the price. You can get the
same kind of stuff as you get for double the
price with other computer models. Storage, I have no idea
what I'm telling you right now. Storage is a handy
two hundred and fifty six gigabytes, comes in a durable

(01:30:34):
aluminium case with two USBC ports. Apple says the battery
is good for up to sixteen hours of video streaming.
And you have eight g g eight GB of ra
AM No, I do know, I'm teasing eight gigabytes a RAM.
I don't know if that's good and says it's fine.
I'm getting myself on.

Speaker 7 (01:30:53):
Do you know what?

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
I'm going down to the Apple shop and says there
an Apple shop? Or do I have to go to
no Lemming?

Speaker 15 (01:30:58):
There are lots of we don't have actual apples. There
are lots of shops that are Apple supported here.

Speaker 3 (01:31:02):
I'm going to go to an Apple supported shop with
my winnings from trade me from selling my baby stuff,
and I'm gonna have to top it up with dinosaur
money is in because one of the kids has got
his coin thing as a dinosaur. I'm gonna throw it
all together. I'm gonna buy myself a neo. I know
Christmas is coming early for me, sixteen away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
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Speaker 3 (01:31:31):
Heather Welsh is super similar to Jamaican as well as
she is now that you pointed out thirteen away from
seven Inde Brady is our UK correspondent high Ender.

Speaker 4 (01:31:39):
Hey had great to speak to you again.

Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
Is this vessel going to Cyprus not sailing until next week?

Speaker 4 (01:31:45):
Yes, that's exactly it, so big change of plans. It
had been here marked for another operation they've had to
cancel that, change things around, put different weapons on board. Look,
we're given all sorts of excuses as to why it's
taking so long, but I think the event for the
last few days here have really highlighted here just how
kind of off the pace the UK military is in

(01:32:08):
terms of everything, In terms of absolutely everything operational deployment.
They don't have a single vessel anywhere in the Middle East,
and that's the first time in fifty years. So that
should give people an indication of just how little money
and interest has been paid to the UK military for
a couple of decades.

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
I guess, I mean, obviously embarrassing for you guys and
not what you want, but also probably the hurry up
that you need, don't you think.

Speaker 4 (01:32:34):
Yeah, And look, they've had four years of a war
in Ukraine to start planning and start getting things at
operational level, and just even down to how you deal
with drones. Just for example, what the Uranians are firing
costs twenty six thousand dollars a pop. What the Brits
have been firing at them cost two million dollars a pop.
So economically, who's winning that argument? I mean, they need

(01:32:55):
to start learning. They need to sit down with the
Ukrainians who figured out how to bring down drones really
really quickly and cheaply, and the UK military just needs
an upgrade because this is not good.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
How weak does Stama look at the moment?

Speaker 4 (01:33:09):
Really weak? Another flip flop of the weekend, you know,
initially telling the Americans they couldn't use British air bases
and then very quickly changing his mind. Trump's roth came
very quickly and has not stopped since. So domestically weak,
and he's starting to look weak on the international front
as well. So you know, make a decision, stick to
a decision, deliver the plan, and he seems quite incapable

(01:33:32):
of doing anything.

Speaker 3 (01:33:33):
Really into How serious does this news that three men
have been arrested on suspicion of spying for China.

Speaker 4 (01:33:39):
Yeah, and this again is embarrassing for the Prime Minister
because from what I'm hearing all three are connected to
the Labor Party. And Starmer was in Beijing just a
couple of weeks ago, first UK prime minister heading there
in eight years, and of course he signed off on
China's massive new embassy plan in London, which will be
their biggest embassy anywhere in the world. So it does
not look good. Three men arrested, properties searched in London

(01:34:03):
and in Wales and one in Scotland. And the man
in Scotland who was arrested, I understand is the husband
of a female Labor MP. Now obviously it's a live
police investigation. They're in custody. But again, you know, this
story keeps repeating itself, people in and around Parliament being
picked off and arrested by counter terrorism cups and the
allegation always is that they're spying for China.

Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
Is it William? Is this your understanding that it's William
who's kept Andrew's daughters away from Escott.

Speaker 4 (01:34:33):
Yes, that's what the whisper is. So Beatrice and usually
have been told do not appear, not in the carriage procession,
don't go racing, don't be at Royal Ascott and I
think what you're seeing. Is William doing all the housekeeping
that his dad should have been doing many many years ago,
and indeed his grandmother as well. So William is the
new broom sweeping clean before he even gets into the house.

Speaker 3 (01:34:54):
Is it fear on them though they've done nothing wrong?

Speaker 4 (01:34:57):
Well, you say that, I would advise people to go
pick up a copy of a book called Entitled by
Andrew Loney. My understanding is he's currently working on a
follow up book called Untitled, and have a read around
and just look at the behavior. Basically, I think once
they remove Andrew from the line of succession, there will

(01:35:18):
be no choice but to takeout Beatrice and usually as well,
and the entire house of York falls and people can say,
you know, the sins of the father whatever. These are
fully grown women now, and you know their mother took
them to visit Epstein the week he got out of
prison for abusing gals. You just couldn't make this up.
I just think the whole house of York has to
go in the.

Speaker 3 (01:35:38):
Thank you very much for time, mate, look after yourself.
Of the inde Brady how UK correspondent nine away from seven,
it's the.

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
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Speaker 18 (01:35:52):
Hither.

Speaker 3 (01:35:53):
I can't believe the school bus rubbish you've been talking
about today. I hired one for twenty kids and it
run for five years, and I build the parents each term.
It saved us all driving miles and money. The trouble
is people want everything done for them these days. Cheers Maggie.
But the farmers. This is ultimately what it comes down
Mark my words will be. What it comes down to
is everybody else. Everybody else doesn't matter quite as much

(01:36:14):
as I say this with relevant respect for farmers obviously,
but farmers are special because farmers are the ones basically
earning all the money that this country's got at the moment.
If even Jordan Williams, who hates spending a dollar on anything,
taxpay dollar or anything, it's prepared to pay for the
buses for farmers because they make all the money. It
tells you something. I've got an update for you on
the least important story of the day, but one which

(01:36:34):
I think weird numbers of us are still fascinated by.
It's the Beck confute. So today is a happy birthday
of Brooklyn. Today's Brooklyn Beckham's twenty seventh birthday, but he
remains the prodigal son. So the mum and dad have
gone on too the Insta today. They haven't, by the way,
this whole time that they've been having this mass of
falling out, they haven't even acknowledged the rift to mum
and dad being David and Vicks, they haven't even acknowledged it.

(01:36:56):
But they've gone on the Instagram today and they've wished
the prodigal son a happy birth the happy birthday. They
said we love you in the picture of them all
swimming in a pool when he was a little baby.
So happy days.

Speaker 15 (01:37:06):
Very Dysfunctional and Witchcraft by Pendulum to play us out tonight.
Pendulum and the electronic rock band from Australia have been
announced they will be playing at Ultra Festival, which is
happening in Wellington in April. We already Knewultra was happening.
That announced half the line up, but the rest of
the lineup is out tonight. Other new editions Ellis in Wonderland,
a trap DJ from over in Australia, Rave Olp DOUVESTEP

(01:37:26):
producer from America, Quicks our very own trap producer Quicks
and a nightmare trap producer from over in America as well.
This is probably the lineup I am most excited about
out of anything that I've seen this year, and usually
that's rhythm and vines. So they've done a very good
job with that. Thanks very much Louis Upston for fuming it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
There are didn't you just say that it was a
rock band.

Speaker 15 (01:37:44):
Pendulum is an electronic rock band. They are just doing
a DJ set at Ultra, So if you're thinking about
getting a ticket, I don't think they'll do the live
drums and the live guitar.

Speaker 3 (01:37:51):
So, oh, so you'll prepare to acknowledge rock music if
it's got an electronic put Oh.

Speaker 15 (01:37:55):
Absolutely. They started out as drum and based based DJs
and decided they had electric guitar. There's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 3 (01:38:01):
Okay, Okay, so this is okay. Then, Hey, we'll see
you tomorrow. You have a loved leaving New Talks.

Speaker 22 (01:38:05):
It'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
Don't room.

Speaker 6 (01:38:29):
Maybe she's wrestling, maybe's she avde just.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
Come back from the.

Speaker 10 (01:38:37):
Change is leaving some things.

Speaker 11 (01:38:41):
The name.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
Go borrow, we got again

Speaker 1 (01:39:04):
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