Full Show Podcast: 08 June 2026

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Andrew
Dickens on hither duplessy Ellen Drive but with one New
Zealand explore satellite innovation at field Day's Mystery Creek News
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
B afternoon, and welcome to the program. I'm here for
another week. It's seven after four. Coming up there over
the next three hours, we Chris Hipkins has released something
makes a change, the leader of the opposition after five,
what to do about Dunedin's belligerent Sea Lions? Not something
I expected to say. That story is next and what

(00:34):
has Nikola willis put one billion dollars assign for the
Finance minister. After sex, will talk politics with Barry Soper
round about four forty five, will go to Australia with
Oli Pederson and you can have your say by sending
me a text. The number is ninety two ninety two.
Small charge applies Andrew Dickens. Well, something has finally emerged
from the silent, yawning abyss. That is the Labor Party.

(00:56):
Unfortunately it's not policy. It's their list seventy two names
thirty new candidates. Party President Jill Day and Leader Chris
Hipkins says The lineup reflects modern New Zealand. They've got
candidates from business, farming, public service unions and community services
and Rhodes Scholars and Fulbright Scholars and Uncle John, Uncle

(01:18):
Tom Cobley and all. They've gone for the fifty to
fifty women. They've also gone for diversity. Remember, current polling
suggests Labour could win about forty four seats and Chris
Hipkins is expecting to have at least ten new MPs
entering Parliament at the end of this year. One standout
newcomer is Police Superintendent raksh Naid rank thirteenth, almost guaranteed
a seat. He's a list only candidates straight in inter

(01:41):
position number thirteen. Pity he didn't tell Mark Mitchell. There
are some major ranking shifts Mari CDMP Kushler Tangiery Manual
Tangiery Manual jumps tonight, while Venushi Walters rises to eighth
after returning to Parliament this term. These are high up
in the in the rank and no, I haven't heard

(02:01):
of them either. Names I have heard of, such as
Camilla Bellich and Deborah Russell have dropped down the rankings
they may struggle to return, and poor old MP Greg
O'Connor having had his electorate Ohario withdrawn and redrawn from
beneath them. He's not even on the list, so this
is a de facto announcement of his retirement and he's

(02:24):
not happy. Now. Remember the Chris Hipkins promised policy after
the budget to answer our questions, questions like will they
reverse the public service spending cuts? Will they reverse the
defense spend up? Will they finally unveil a meaningful capital
gains tax regime? But here we are seventeen days after
the budget and still no trace of policy. So what

(02:47):
on earth are we going to vote for these people on?
Is anybody's guest?

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Andrew Dickens, So yes, Chris Hipkins are Have you noticed
that we do get policy from Cris but only if
we ask a question.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
He never proffers anything. You have to ask him a
question before he can find out what he thinks. And
we're going to talk to the most talkative MP that
we have in Parliament right now at five point fifteen.
Right out to wildlife, it's pretty common to see possums
and rats and birds and other smallish creatures getting squished
on the road. But there's a new animal in Dunedin
blocking the roads and it's pretty big. It's too big

(03:25):
to move. Sea lions are parking up and experts warn
a collision with one could be fatal for a human.
So to tell us more about the sea lions rampaging
through Dunedin, not that they rampage very fast. I have
teaching fellow and zoology at University of Otaga Tago. Hannah
Raven joining me now, Hello Hannah, Hi Andrew, how are
you good? What's wrong with these sea lions? Why are

(03:48):
they going on the roads? While they're going on the
roads when they should be on the beaches and in
the sea and on the rocks.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Yeah, I mean that's what we think that they would be. Hey,
but it's actually quite a natural behavior that they're doing.
We have been having sea lions on roads for eight
months in a row now in Donedin and it's happening
in Catland's and Southland as well. But yeah, we have
mums and pups that are kind of trying to get
away from the big boisterous males that are on the
beaches and they do that by going inland. So that's

(04:17):
what we're seeing.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
It's just the worst it's ever been.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
It is Indonesia. It's the most that has ever been.
We've had an increasing population since ninety three, so it's
been going on for thirty years. But yeah, it's it's
an increasing population here overall. Unfortunately they're in decline, but
we see it increasing inactivity. So I mean we're kind
of lucky in that way, I guess, even though it's
a bit of renuisance.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
And why should we be more afraid of them than
they are or thus.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
Well, I don't know if I would exactly say that
they are. They're mostly just trying to find habitat to
go and hide in. But we definitely need to be
more aware of the fact that they are out there,
and they'll often be hiding alongside ditches and in vegetation
and stuff, and often you can't see them until you're

(05:09):
right next to them.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
So yeah, do they pounce.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Pounds to people. They do approach people. Yep, definitely.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
So they can be hiding and they could be hiding
in the butchers and suddenly pounce on you, is what
you're saying, and.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
They can they can come out absolutely that that happen.
Sometimes they're quite curious and we actually do some of
our research that showing that it's quite often for Geneta
knights and people in the Catlands as well, and recuras come.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
Up to them.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Real danger for humans though, is cars, because these are
these are big, big units and they're on the roads
and you come around the corner at eighty k you're
going to come off second base, don't you.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Oh one hundred. I mean, the Zeeland's definitely not going
to come up very good. But but we are talking
about some of these males that we get crossing the
road trying to find and sniff out the females. They're
four hundred plus kgs. I mean, that's a massive animal
that you could collide with. So yeah, one really want
people to be vigilant around coastal roads and even roads
doesn't have to be straight on the coast. Even roads

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they're just kind of very close to the coast is
the ones that you should keep an eye out to.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
So, yeah, can you shoot them? You know shooe.

Speaker 6 (06:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
So that's one of the things that we've been starting
to talk about. You know, some of the research we've
been doing at the University of Otago, where the Sea
Lione Trusts have been a part of it, actually shows
that about a third of the people we have engaged with,
they've all had commute disruptions due to sea lions, and
sometimes you don't know what to do. So that's the
thing we've been asking local government and council to actually

(06:40):
start to educate people. What are you supposed to do?
Sometimes they go on the road and they're just crossing
the road. The best you can do is just wait.
Might take a few minutes, but this sometimes they do
decide to lie down and house news and that's where
it gets a little bit more complicated. If you can't
drive around them, is.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
It worth hiring someone to go around and problem with
a stick or even worse, a taser.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
It will be in just a few years that will
be a very very busy job for that one person.
That's probably not very sustainable. It's much better that people
get to learn and be educated what to do. So yeah,
we're hoping that there's going to be very soon some
better guidelines than what there is right now.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
On that Hannah, thank you so much for the warning.
That's Hannah Raven who is teaching fellow in zoology at
the University of Otago. Stop for a sea lion, don't
approach the sea line. They're far more dangerous than you
might think, and they're also a lot faster than you
might think as well. It is fourteen minutes after four Andrew.
We do hear policy from Hipkins, three free doctors visits. Okay, Kelly,

(07:39):
thank you, sure, but someone else ss Andrew. They run
such a small target campaign that I struggle to see
anything bold. I asked about three policy areas. They've never
said a thing. Now, how do they feel about the
MPs who can't go into China?

Speaker 7 (07:52):
Now?

Speaker 2 (07:52):
They don't say anything unless they're asked the Labor Party.
I will ask Chris Hipkins stuff in just a few
moments time now, and also actually just after five, I
should say, in a few moments time, I'm talking to
Jason Pine, who doesn't want to talk about the cricket,
but who does. And the biggest thing I took out
of the cricket was that the Lord's pitch was an abomination.

(08:12):
It was two paste, it was flat, it was not
up to the standard of lords, not up to the
standard required of a one hundred and fiftieth test. So
I think the whole thing was a bit of a
of a lottery myself. So we won't talk cricket, but
we will talk Grand PRIs Monaco and the fact that
we did not get hammered by Ingrad Jason Pine.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
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Speaker 2 (08:46):
Said, all right, the time is now eighteen minutes after four,
Jason Plan. I've been told we're not talking cricket. Oh
we care if you like, Andrew.

Speaker 8 (08:54):
I mean it would be a shorter conversation than some
of the other things we could talk about.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
But like this test match, short test match.

Speaker 8 (09:01):
Look the terrible we're here now we Yeah, it really was,
wasn't it? Not a not a single batter and our
team got fifty Glenn Phillips forty four not out and
the second dig I think Corle Jamison was the next
high score just about with I think Comic got forty one.
But I mean, really that the pitch. I know we've
talked a lot about the wicket, but both teams had
to play on it, and England just did a lot bit.

(09:21):
Our bowling was good if we're looking for a silver lining,
but our batting absolutely need some work before the second Test.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah. Now, the latest thing that happened at the tennis,
Zverev has finally got himself a Grand Slam, admittedly because
everybody else got sick or pulled out or lost, but
yeah he got one finally.

Speaker 8 (09:38):
Yeah, absolutely, And you know he wore this tag, didn't
it for a long time? The best player never to
win one. A breakthrough, you'd probably call it. I think
he's been in three previous Grand Slam finals and lost
them all. He was pushed to a deciding fifth set,
but Ittill's Flavio Kabali was clearly tiring in the fifth
and Verev won that six one. So I no, well

(09:58):
done to Alexander Verev. He's been there or thereabouts. It
must feel very nice to finally take it off.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah. He's a controversial fello though, but we won't go
into that. Do I have to apologize to you because
I said, well, England's going to destroy us in the football,
But in fact one Nill to England's with the just
an incredible goal of course, to the freak mister Kane.
We finally had had some defense.

Speaker 8 (10:23):
I thought we were okay, Yeah, I thought we were
very good defensively compared to Haiti, and that was a
low bar. You and I spoke about that last week.
That was, you know, really one that they'll be very
happy to put into the review. A lot better against England.
I was pleased to see Darren Baselely stick with the
starting side until about the hour mark. He made one
change at half time, but didn't make multiple changes like

(10:44):
he did against Haiti. And yeah, obviously they'll be pleased
that they didn't get run over by a team that's
ranked fourth in the world. The only or the main
thing now to look at for this team, Andrew, is
how they're going to score some goals. No goals against Haiti,
no goals against England. Can't progress out of a group
without scoring goals. It'll be mainly I think, set peace

(11:04):
time where we'll be at our most threatening, but when
those opportunities come and just gone.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
You see that, Do you see what Francis de Veri's
finally gets on. He finally gets a free kick from
near the halfway. Sam's are right into the box. We'll
get our first corner and that was That was halfway
through the second half, and I think, yeah, okay, we're
a long ball deliverer. But you know what I notice England,
if they're anywhere near the goal anywhere can we they'll
have a crack. Whereas we go we seem to suddenly
get paralyzed and do that.

Speaker 8 (11:29):
Yeah, it's not a new thing.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
You know.

Speaker 8 (11:32):
We've always been quite a good defensive side right through
you know, generations of players really, but we've never smashed teams, well,
teams outside of our own confederation, I'll qualify that. Look,
chances aren't going to come along very often. You have
to be clinical. You have to take the chances that arrive,
create them three four, maybe five a game. You have
to finish them when they come along and done what

(11:54):
This time next week we'll be on the eve of
the first game against Iran, so looking forward to seeing
how they go.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
One touch shoot That's how I used to coach my
ten year old's, you know, one touch pass or shoot
and that's it. At Monica Grand Prix, Kimmi and Antony.
I was doubtful last year when I heard that his
name was up, but my gosh, he's had one hell
of a season. Six in a row, isn't it.

Speaker 7 (12:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (12:16):
I think was it five?

Speaker 5 (12:17):
Six?

Speaker 8 (12:17):
And Ribe but anyway, it's a long stretch, isn't it.
And Monico is hard to pass on and there was
a lot of chaos. His car sort of fell apart
and you know, got penal lies and stuff. Liam Lawson
man a career best finished fifth. He's he is not
that far away from the others and the Driver's championship,
He's well inside the top ten. He is absolutely outpointing

(12:39):
arvid linbad his teammate. I think Liam Lawson's just just
very quietly getting the hang of this. I think he's
having a really good year.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
He's a couple of points behind Gasly.

Speaker 9 (12:48):
Yeah, how good?

Speaker 2 (12:49):
How good? Well, I want him too and yeah, but
I really want him to beat Ghastly because Gasly did
Brendon Hartley no favors back in the day. And I
want this French and to pay. You've got a long
memory entry, I know that's exactly right, all right, hey,
and I've got a text to say, no mention of
poor Cole.

Speaker 8 (13:08):
Well, let's mention a third British Open title in a row.
Look of one of our great one of our great
champions in squash. I think he's up there now with
with Dame Susan DUVOI as one of our absolute greats
of the game. We've had others as well, the likes
of Ross Norman and such like, but Paul Cole isn't
rarefied here among our squash players.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Now, good stuff, Jason Pine Sports Talk. It is now
four twenty three. This is news talks. Heb after five Chrishipkins.
You can you can send through some questions. They can
ask Jape. Someone's said, ask him if he prefers horse
sized ducks or duck sized horses. Yes, I will. It
is what did I say the time that you said it?
Four twenty three?

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Here what matters the facts over the noise. It's Andrew
dickens on Hither Duke to c Allen Drive with one
New Zealand explores satellite innovation at field Day's miss Can
you use talks there be Thank you to.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
My research department. That's you. Apparently Liam Lawson is now
ahead of Gasly. Both are on twenty six points, but
Liam's finishes rank higher, Liam nine and Ghasly ten. The
reason I said that is that I saw the points
right after the race. Of course, Gasly was then demoted
a bit later on because he sped out of the
pit lay. But there we go. Thank you so very
very much. I got to make an apology about something

(14:23):
I said last week where I was talking about Marty
Crow and how he is in the first fifteen, the
first eleven cricket and also the first eleven football, and
I said in the first fifteen he played fullback album.
Paul contacted me and said that will be of news
to Gavin Holton. Gavin Holton played number fifteen back in
the day for the auckro Grammar First fifteen and you

(14:43):
don't want to take that piece of glory away from him. Okay,
I apologize. Look, Marty played wherever the hell he wanted
to play. Let's be honest. Maybe he played wing. That's
the thing. Now, do you know about a fellow by
the name of Richard Scollier. Richard was a former Australian
of the Year. He was a cancer researcher who got
cancer and was a terrible cancer and he fought it

(15:06):
for three years. Now. The thing is the sort of
cancer he got normally knocks you off in a year,
but his cancer research, which he did with melanoma, suggested
that you could actually get your own cells to fight
against the cancer. So he said, when he got his
terminal diagnosis, try my radical idea on me. Use me
like a guinea pig. And he lasted three years instead

(15:27):
of the average one. So isn't that amazing Anyway? He
died in the weekend. He's fifty nine and he's left
an open letter to Australians and Oli Peterson will fill
us in with what he had to say after the.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
News Accountability Analysis answers here what matters? It's Andrew dickens
on hither Duplessy Allen dry who has one New Zealand
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Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yes silent says, very bloody cruel irony that that top
researcher getting the horrible disease that he'd already studied. What
a selfish approach. Absolutely just seen that he's going to
have a state funeral. His name is Richard Scollier. Will
talk to Oli Peterson about him in just a few
moments time. He's amazing. Meanwhile, since we're on the subject
of death, Roger Perry, one of the pioneers of New

(16:26):
Zealand's house music scene, has died and it's broken Everybody's heart.
So Roger began in Orkan's hip hop and funk scene
back in the eighties, and then he introduced house music
to the city. He was a resident DJ at clubs
including The Asylum and The Box. And here's a story
about Roger. Back in the eighties, Russell Crowe, then known

(16:47):
as Russell the Rock, was running an underage music club
on Simon Street called The Venue and he hired Roger Perry.
He was the first person to hire Roger Perry. He said,
come and play me a set of two of music.
Roger came in, played his first record and Russell said,
you're in anyway. Simon greg who was the man behind
the club The Box, message Russell over the weekend and

(17:10):
Russell Crowe messaged back saying that Roger was far too
young for this conversation. Russell Crow still remembers his past,
so rest in peace, Roger. You know, I reckon. If
he'd been doing his thing in London, he'd be a
global superstar. He was the soundtrack to some of my
best nights.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
It's the world wires on news talks. He'd be drive
all right.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Vladimir Zelensky has received the backing of major European leaders
in calling for direct cease fire talks with Russia. The UK,
France and Germany were all supporting the letter that Ukraine's
Presidence sent directly to Vladimir Putin last week, as Zelensky
met former Chelsea f C owner and Russian oligarch Roman
Abramovich and Kiev, the as the multi billionaire to pass

(17:50):
on a simple message. To putin that message, we aren't
going anywhere, and you guys are struggling. Go away right.
Donald Trump has stormed out of an interview he was
laying out his claims that election results in the California
primaries were rigged. After being asked to present evidence, Trump
got up and lift, I won.

Speaker 10 (18:12):
An election in a landslide, and I got ninety four
bad press presented because you have no credibility.

Speaker 11 (18:20):
But you've never presented evidence it was rigged.

Speaker 9 (18:22):
Let's keep talking about.

Speaker 12 (18:22):
I want to talk about talk.

Speaker 10 (18:23):
You have more evidence, there's more evidence than ever presented.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Let's talk to your elections in.

Speaker 10 (18:30):
This country were like a third world country. So your
elections are crooked, and your crooked, and meet the presses crooked,
and so is ABC and CBS and CNN. The one
sided crooked network. Right, let's call it quits because I've
had a note and.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
He woke out, he's on fire and finally, oh oh,
that was triggering Xbox. Xbox has launched the special product
to commemorate twenty five years since the release of its
first console. The Anniversary Console is a translucent version of
the top of the line machine, the Xbox Series X.

(19:07):
It's called the X twenty five. It's translucent and green
and everything is a throwback to the original. Same colours
on the buttons, same style of controller, even the same
startup noises, and I'd still be crap at it. Gamers rejoice.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
I'm admitting I'm a nightclub Dennison and I'm a gamer now.
Olly Peterson from ABC Perth, the drive presenter on that
great radio station, joins the Hello Wally Andrew good A,
Pauline Hanson and One Nation are Australia's biggest party and
Australia is still gobsmacked here well.

Speaker 13 (19:46):
Indeed, News poll Today indicates that One Nation is our
surge to a historic thirty one percent of that primary
vote compared to thirty percent for labor and by the
way that lives in the that's just eighteen percent. So
one day now the most popular political party in Australia,
but on that two party question, it would still not

(20:07):
be enough for one nation to form government. So the
Prime Minister asked about this today and he's pretty cranky
about it, simply saying, what's the economy stupid? You know,
people are just frustrated with what's happening in the economy
at the moment.

Speaker 12 (20:19):
It's driving voters away from the major parties. Interesting that
he has started to really ramp up his attack. He
used a big speech on Friday in fact Andrew to
indicate it's about popularism and that Australians are now undertaking
this wave of populism that we've seen with Donald Trump
obviously in the United States, with Nigel Farage in the UK.
But a very interesting set of circumstances, obviously with change

(20:41):
its negative geary and capital gains passing the Lower House
last week. He's not law yet in Australia, but I'll
tell you what he's still occupying plenty of pages of
the daily broadsheets and the tabloids, and plenty of airtime
here on talkback radio around the country. I think the
PM's really feeling as though it is a massive rejection
of not just obviously the coalition but now obviously the

(21:02):
government the Labor Party, and he's really sensing that the
government might be in a bit of strife here.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Why doesn't Albaneze just point out to the public that
Pauline Hanson can identify problems, but has he ever offered solutions?
And that's a good question, Andrew.

Speaker 13 (21:17):
And it's interesting because a lot of people on the
talkback lines would say similar, like what are the policies
of one nation? Even some of those members of one
nation don't even know their own policies in have been
caught in the media in recent days not having any
substance to behind Really that the ret trick, if you like,
behind the headline. But that's at the moment not dissuaying
any Australians. They're just fed up, they're frustrated, they're looking

(21:38):
for it for an outlet here. And it's very very
fascinating times here in Australian politics, how quickly things are changing.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Right, Well, Australia's heart has broken. I was very sad
to hear this news. Former Australian of the Year Richard Scalia,
has died at the age of fifty nine of a
brain cancer that he fought using his own radical treatment,
volunteering himself as some sort of guinea pig. And he
left behind an open letter toward Australians.

Speaker 13 (22:03):
Yeah, and look, I think all Australian's hearts are broken today.
I had the great fortune of interviewing Richard Scalia when
he was the Australian of the Year and visited over
here to Perth, and I genuinely met it. He would
have been one of the most outstanding people, if not
the most outstanding person I've ever had the good fortune
to who have ever shared a studio with for fifteen minutes.
And it's that work that he used for himself as

(22:25):
a human guinea pig, as you say there, for brain
cancer research that he leaves this very emotional letter about
how he has just tried to have a crack was
his summarizing words.

Speaker 14 (22:36):
And he's done a hell of a lot more than that.

Speaker 13 (22:38):
Over a thousand, one thousand different published reviews for what
he has done with a trying to reduce the risk
of melanoma and the good fight that he was doing
about the dangers of the sun. He's obviously a very
loving husband, a very loving father of his children as well,
and just never gave up despite the fact that he
knew he was going to die. I mean most people
get given eighteen months with this brain cancer three years.

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He never gave up the optimism of being able to
provide that opportunity for research. And that's what he asks
in that letter. Just moving forward, make sure there's the
funding of research available and more people who are going
through cancer treatments. Put your hands up to be guinea
pigs like him to see whether or not there is
other treatments that may be made available to people in
the years to come. Just inspiring Australian. It is a

(23:21):
terribly sad day in this country to lose somebody.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
If he's going to have a state funeral, I.

Speaker 13 (23:27):
See absolutely he's been offered that, not only by the
Prime Minister, but they're in New South Wales or Tasmania
where he is from.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
He's just an outstanding person, Andrew, great stuff. Yes there's gliobastoma,
as you quite rightly said, normally you die within a year.
Eighteen months he managed to go three years and that
shows that his radical techniques of altering the sales to
make them attack the cancer actually worked and all they
needed was someone to have a crack at it, and
he put himself up for amazing man Oi, I thank

(23:54):
you for your time today, all the very best at
is seventeen minutes to five. As you would have heard,
it has been reported that kadesh Na Do Rakesh and
I Do, the new candidate on the labor list who
was a police superintendent, has now been relieved of his
duties within the police. You would have heard that Mark
Mitchell said that he only found out last night. That's

(24:14):
not enough notice and therefore he's gone from the job.
When asked about this, the labor leader before and Amrikesh
and I Do said we did everything right. We did
everything right, but the minister did not know. So there's
another thing to ask. Chris Hipkins after five and coming
up after the break, Barry Soper Politics.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
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Speaker 2 (24:37):
It's coming out thirteen to five. Barry Soper, Welcome to
the studio.

Speaker 9 (24:40):
Good afternoon, Andrew.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Do we still want to talk about Nashville and the
Farmer's Conservation trust or would you rather talk about it?
Would you rather talk about this man? Mister? And I do.
Who is up as a labor candidate. He's at number
thirteen thirteen, very high. Unlucky for some, lucky for others. Well,
it's unlucky for him today.

Speaker 9 (24:58):
Because it seems he didn't anybody informed.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Well he claimed he did, and said Chris Hopkins. But
then we got now Richard Chambers saying I only found
out last night. Mark Mitchell only found out last night.

Speaker 9 (25:08):
Yeah, look, it's just unacceptable. And this man is not
a junior policeman, police superintendent, so he's been in the
police obviously a long time. He was the ethnic Ewian
community's national partnership manager with the police, so he held
a very high position. And Chris Hopkins said, he said, look,

(25:29):
everything is in line.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
You know, he did all that was required of him.

Speaker 9 (25:35):
Well, Mark Mitchell, he said today the Minister that he
only was made aware of Naidu's political aspirations last night
for goodness sake, ahead of this morning's announcement. And it
would seem that that view was coroborated by the Police
Commissioner today who had spoken obviously to Naidu, and he was.

(25:57):
Richard Chambers was told that yeah he was, and he
only found out yesterday as well. So look, this is
not good enough. It was put to Chris Luxen. He says,
it's disappointing that Noady didn't declare his interests earlier.

Speaker 15 (26:11):
We expect public servants and police to be politically neutral.
I think it would have been advantageous for him and
for the Labor Party frankly for him to have declared
his political intentions to his employer, the police. I think
if a Canaida wants to run for office, they needed
to clear that with their employer pretty early.

Speaker 9 (26:28):
Yeah, and you know you can see that. And of
course that's important because the point that Mark Mitchell has
made is that this police superintendent he would have been
privy not just to highly sensitive information being the position
that he held in the police, but also what the government,

(26:48):
the National Party was planning further down the track. Now
you know that's you know, I wouldn't say that this
ninety fellow would be inside of trading, but nevertheless it
opens itself to you know, having a knowledge that you
shouldn't have. Oh, he's standing as a candidate for an opposition.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, and it's just transparency, which is something
that the Labour Party has been caught on too many
times over the last five years.

Speaker 7 (27:11):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Okay, while we're on the subject of Chris Hopkins, do
you want to talk about him using a super fund
to pay his holiday house mortgage. The difference between him
and Foster is at least he has a mortgage, whereas
Foster didn't have a mortgage.

Speaker 9 (27:25):
But I found it fascinating that he's using a super fund,
he says, to pay off a mortgage on a holiday
house up the Corpty Coast.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
But either the.

Speaker 9 (27:40):
Very slow payers or he said the family has had
this holiday house.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
For forty years. Okay, have you've had it for forty years?

Speaker 9 (27:51):
You're using your mortgage money to pay sorry, your superannuation
money to pay a mortgage.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Now, hold on. When it comes to capitol games, don't
they say something like the family home is exempt and
nothing else is like batches? You know, I just found.

Speaker 9 (28:10):
His claim because I'd love to hear his explanation. I'm
sure you'll ask him why is he using a superannuation
fund to pay for a mortgage that on a house
that the family has owned for forty years?

Speaker 2 (28:23):
When he was just a little boy. Yeah, exactly. Maybe
he's reverse mortgaging well to pay for his retirement after
picking up his massive, massive superannuation that he gets from
being a parliamentarian and former Prime minister. For a very
brief moment of time. Okay, stop me there. Nationals announced
a policy. Unlike Labor, they announced the list.

Speaker 9 (28:44):
It's hardly an earth shattering policy. It's doubling the permanent
baseline funding for the QI two, a national Trust. And
what that does is it provides money for farmers to
build fences and what have you to ensure that they're
respecting the conservation of the land that they own. And

(29:06):
when they double, when they say they're doubling the funding,
that's if they're re elected, it'll go from four point
two to about eight point five million years. So it's
not a lot, but it's a permanent thing. ACT leader
David Seymour he's welcoming National's commitment to increase the funding,
saying it reflects an idea championed by Act of course,

(29:26):
and when the Prime Minister was told that, he was
absolutely delighted.

Speaker 15 (29:31):
That is awesome that we've got by partisanship on a
critical idea and that the good farmers of New Zealand
can know that between the respective government parties they've.

Speaker 14 (29:39):
Got support, which is fantastic.

Speaker 16 (29:40):
Seem is that exciting?

Speaker 6 (29:42):
Is that what you want to see?

Speaker 2 (29:44):
He's learning, isn't learning? Do you know?

Speaker 9 (29:46):
I thought that too. I thought that was a quick repulse,
quick repast. Yeah, and I think it was quite funny.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Fantastics are very soper. Of course, to our political correspondent,
it's coming up eight to five, it's newstalks MB.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Here self think it's the mic Hosking breakfast.

Speaker 13 (30:02):
Budget documents show the government has already quietly pre committed
about a billion dollars from future budgets, but won't say
what the money is for. Brad Olsen is the principal
economist at Informetrics.

Speaker 17 (30:12):
It's just slightly weird timing to have something in the budget,
to have it pre committed but not reveal the information.
Usually you wouldn't have that in the budget documents. You'd instead,
at some point in the next month or two come
out and say, look, we've got this announcement. We're still
doing the policy work, but we've sort of you know,
pre charged the cost of this policy against the next
couple of budgets. My reading of it is that I

(30:33):
don't know if they haven't quite got it through the
coalition working Heather Duper.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
See Ellen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast Fact tomorrow at
six am with Bailey's Real Estate on news togs.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
There'd be well, the questions are coming thick and for usk,
for Christopher Hipkins, who is my next interview on this
program in about ten minutes time, Doctor b writes, Andrew,
this dude has further damaged the reputation of both the
police and the Labor Party. Situation normal, so I do
and Hipkins both I said, no, No, We've done everything proper,
done everything right proper. Chambers today, about half an hour ago,

(31:04):
comes out and says, no, I didn't know about this
until last night. Mitchell last night said I didn't know
anything about it until tonight. So obviously they did not
make it make the police fully aware of the situation.
And that's not right, that's not proper. There is a
book about this. Somebody saying, are you impartial, Andrew, or
are you broadcasting on behalf of the government. No that

(31:25):
I'm just saying the rules are the rules, and unfortunately
the Labor Party screwed that one up. So I have
a word with Christopher Hipkins about this. Meanwhile the list,
another text says, I'm surprised Kieren mcinolty and Ginny Anderson
aren't ranked higher. So Kieren's down from seven to ten,
and Ginny Anderson is down at twelve from nine. Okay,

(31:47):
And my text says they're some of the best performers
in Labour's caucus. Debatable about Ginny yeah, Kieren yeah. In comparison,
why has Willow Gene Prime so become so highly placed
on the list. Will O g Prime is now at
seven from eight. She's been one of Labor's underperformers. And
my text reckons that nine out of the top twelve

(32:09):
are women, which I haven't quite checked yet, but it
is looking to me on first first look, know that
you're wrong eight eight are women and they wanted the
fifty to fifty split. But whatever. Anyway, lots to talk
to Chris Hipkins about and we will be talking about
him and the list. Oh and the mortgage that's been
paid for by the super from on a house that

(32:32):
has been in his family for forty years, So what's
the mortgage about? And does he feel like he's actually
taking the taxpayers for a ride. And is there going
to be a capital gains tax? And will they reverse
the spending cuts in the public service? And will they
carry on with the defense bill. I mean, the questions
iss keep coming because we never hear any answers. News

(32:53):
and support us.

Speaker 18 (32:54):
Next, because I guess I.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Never pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's
Andrew Dickens on Hither Duplessy Allen Drive with One New
Zealand explores satellite innovation at field Day's Mystery Creek News

(33:41):
Talk said b.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Afternoon, Welcome to the program. Seven after five thirty newcomers,
including a police superintendent on Labour's list for the November election,
the biggest mover of Venushie Walters, who's now out to
eighth and leader Chris Hopkins joins you now, hello.

Speaker 5 (33:57):
Chris, goody, Andrew, how are you.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Very well thinking man? This is going to be a
nice little chat about your list, but it has grown
into so much more over the last half hour and
becoming what we could affectionately call Then I do botch up?
You say everything was done right half an hour ago.
Richard Chambers, the commissioner, said, he didn't know until last night.
Mark Mitchell also says he only found out last night.
So what's gone down?

Speaker 5 (34:19):
Well, Rakesh and I do told his manager, his supervisor
at police, when he confirmed that he was putting his
name forward to us last week. We did run a
different process for Rakesh because of his role within the
New Zealand Police. So I'm confident that he's acted with
the utmost integrity in informing the police that he was
putting his name forward for consideration, and then he kept

(34:41):
them updated throughout that process.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
So you're claiming that that news didn't go up up
the chain.

Speaker 5 (34:50):
Well, those are questions from the New Zealand Police. Rakesh
when he confirmed, we ran a short process for him.
He didn't go through the full candidate selection process because
we were very mindful when we first had an informal
conversation with him that if he was going to put
his name forward, we would need to work hard to
protect the political neutrality of the police. He went through

(35:11):
a very shortened process.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Do you know the rules are in the New Zealand
Police Elections and Political Matters Manual that was published in
December twenty twenty three.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
Well, I'm well aware of the rules that are in
the Electoral Act, which says that anybody who is in
a public service role needs to stand down from that
role by nomination day. Now we're a long way away
from nomination day, okay.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, the manual as published by the Police. So there
are core requirements. You must disclose your intention early, you
cannot campaign well employed, and you must resign before being
nominated as a candidate. If he's on the list, isn't
he nominated.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
No nomination day. Under by law, nomination day is set
and that happens still some months away down the track.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
So you feel I feel that Rakesh actually informing the
Commissioner or the commissioner finding out last night was early enough.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
Oh, certainly the police as an organization were aware of
this before that.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Is he any good?

Speaker 5 (36:15):
I think Raquits is outstanding. He's one of the country's
first ever sworn police officers of ethnic descent. He has
been involved extensively in the work that police have done
around New Zealand's Maori, Pacific and ethnic communities. And I
think he is a man of an enormous integrity who
will make an outstanding member of Parliament.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
I presume you've got him in line to be a
police minister, but now he's hacked off the police, so
they won't like him as their boss.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
Well, look, I don't give out any jobs before the election.
But that's more of a problem for the police than
it is for us.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
What about Gregor O'Connor, he lost? How are you redrawn?
Of course, the only way he'd get in is if
he got on the list. He's not on the list,
and now he's basically retirement. It's like he announced his retirement.
He's not happy.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
Oh Greg I think was really unhappy when his seat
was disestablished, So that was nothing that over party could
do anything about. He's been passionate about o'hardio. He's been
an outstanding local MP for Ohio. I think he knew,
you know, when his seat was disestablished that that may
well be the end of the road firm And that
was a conclusion that he reached over the weekend and

(37:25):
he made his decision to withdraw his name from consideration.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Craig Greennye, the CEE to You economist is way down
in the fifties somewhere. I've got it here. He's way
down where there is number fifty one c to You economists,
big defender of Labor Party policies, but he's way down
the list. He won't get in on the list vote
at this moment though. He has to stand in wrong ANDAI,
are you actually challenging this man who's been a faithful
servant of Labor to a degree to actually win a

(37:49):
seat against the Greens to then get some respect.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
Oh, he's absolutely all out to win that seat. And
it's pretty standard for my political party's Labor and National
when someone's standing in a seat that they're expected to win,
that they don't get one of the high list spots.
And that happened with me the first election I stood
in Grant Robertson the first election he stood in. It's
pretty common within the Labor Party. I'm absolutely confident Craig
when he's going to win Wellington Bays and be an

(38:14):
outstanding in peace for Wellington Bays.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
And a bit of ardibardy about the fact that you've
used your entitlements to pay off a mortgage on a batch,
a batch that your family has had for forty years.
How have you still got a mortgage on that thing?

Speaker 5 (38:26):
Well, that is not correct. So those facts that you've
just put out there are not back my superannuation. Are
the contributions that I make to my superannuation. I've used
to purchase a family batch when my parents decided that
they wanted to take their money out of it. It's
as simple as that. It is ultimately my superannuation money

(38:47):
that I have contributed into that scheme. So I think
that's a bit misleading what you've just claimed there.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Okay, But at the same time, when we come to
capital gains tax, you say the family home is exempt.
The family home is everything. You know, if you are
using your entitlements to help out with the family home,
I get it, But this is a holiday home.

Speaker 5 (39:06):
Yeah, and look, and I'll proudly pay capital gains text
on it when we have the opportunity to introduce a
capital gains text because are those of us who are
fortunate to our own secondary homes should be willing to contribute.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Chris, thank you so much for talking to us. That
is Chris Hipkins, Opposition Leaders, thirteen outer five. A new
rental report has been released and it turns out we
might be better off than the Australians. The past five
or so years have seen Kiwis flocking to Australia in
search of better wages, rent and lifestyle. But we're now
spending thirty nine percent of monthly earnings on rent, down
five percent in a year. The Aussies, however, trending in

(39:41):
the other direction. Probably Investors Federation Advocacy manager is Matt
Ball and joins us. Now, how am thatkay Andrew?

Speaker 7 (39:48):
Thanks for having me?

Speaker 2 (39:49):
So these rents going down? Is this happening? Is it continuing?
Or is my producer being hopeful about getting a lower rent.

Speaker 19 (39:57):
Rents are definitely coming down. It's not exactly the same
all across the country. Some parts like Queenstown there's still
not enough supply and higher demand. But if you look
at Auckland, I mean rents have been flat and Auckland
for a number of years now. So yes, rentors are
in a much better position now than they have been
in previous years.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
And what's causing the change?

Speaker 19 (40:18):
I think in this case it's really a supply and
demand thing. So demand has slackened off a bit as
our migration numbers have dropped out, but also supply so
actions that the previous government labor coming under FIELDWEIFEN took
to increase the ability the planning ability to build more houses.
And then this government has just pulled out all the

(40:41):
stops to try and increase housing supply, to make it easier,
faster and cheaper to build houses, and we're seeing the
effect of that, so have more supply.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
I mean, you know, yeah, there's an overhang of apartments.
I got to notice the other day from a department
investor bulletin has said there's nine hundred excess apartments right now.
So the apartment market's bottomed out, townhouses bottomed out. So
this is a great time to buy, and people are
buying low. And if they're buying low, well, then the
rent's low.

Speaker 19 (41:07):
One hundred percent, so that that's an interesting dynamic in
the market too. So first home buyers are doing really
well at the moment. But also if you're an investor
buying now, your return is better than say, if you're
an investor who bought it the peak in the market
for a very high price and that's now dropped, then yeah,
things aren't so good for you. But for renters, it's

(41:28):
a really good time to be a renter, so you know,
take advantage of that rental property.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Is this a passing statistic or something that will stick.

Speaker 19 (41:37):
I don't think it's a passing statistic. As I said,
this government is pulling all the leaders in terms of
trying to increase the number of houses that are built
and to reduce the cost of building those houses. That's
a really important thing. We need people to have good quality,
affordable homes. If supply and demand is and balance, then
rents will be reasonable. It kind of doesn't matter to investors.

(41:58):
You know, you can buy that proper that needs renovation,
put in the work and you make your money that way.
Also you make your money through cash float. You buy cheaper,
you rent cheaper. It's all good.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Good, So no, there's a positive thing long term, all right,
Matt boll, I think you for your time. Property Investors
Federation Advocacy Manager. The text of flying in right now
about the wriggling like an eel, I think as one thing.
Others saying that was softball interview Dickens, Was it really
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out that there's a state of emergency declared for Wellington's
southern and eastern wards. It's the esther coast. It's the
big heavy swell warning that we knew about before seven
or eight meter swells. Of course, then we had the
tsunami warning that happened earlier today out of the Philippines,
and I thought, well, you add that on to the

(43:31):
heavy swells and that's going to be nasty. So they're
worried about the South coast waterfront properties and those people
who live there. They say, you should maybe think of
somewhere else to state. Tonight, Monday, the eighth of June,
there'll be extensive road closures. Don't forget to have a
grab bag, don't forget to make sure your pets are

(43:51):
out of the properties no later than nine am tomorrow morning.
A state of emergency in Wellington. Have you ever been
watching Parliament TV and wondered how much can these guys talk?
Turns out there's an answer. Analysis shows the average amount
of words spoken by MP's this term is one hundred
and two thousand of them. But one MP stands head

(44:13):
and shoulders above the rest is Parliament's Taddy Kathy. Lawrence
Junan is a Green MP, the most verboth MP in Parliament.
He spoke over four hundred and twenty thousand words over
the last term. Congratulations Lawrence, that's a hell of a performance.

Speaker 20 (44:30):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
Andrew.

Speaker 20 (44:32):
Yeah, I honestly didn't know that was the number before
before I was told about it last week. Do you
I think teddy Kathy is a pretty accurate description, to
be honest.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Why do you do it?

Speaker 16 (44:44):
Look, it's a really.

Speaker 20 (44:45):
Important part of any empty s job is to be
able to analyze a bill and scrutinize a bill from
any department, from any government. And you know, I see
it just simply a part of my job.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Do you wish that more people in the opposition benches
were holding the government to a out in questioning every
little clause that you do.

Speaker 20 (45:04):
Everyone is a little bit different. This is something that
I but I do believe that government were all antis.
As a part of Parliament, our job is to do
essentially two things, to scrutinize any built on legislation that
ministers and cabinet and you know, the executives throve you.
And the other one is scrutinized budget. So I think
that everyone should hold this ability to scrutinize things dear

(45:28):
to their hearts.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
All right, well, Lawrence, And the impressive thing is English
is your second language, not your first language either, so
you're very good at it and very you use a
lot of it. So congratulations and I thank you for
your time today. Four hundred and twenty thousand words out
of that man, Lawrence jer Nan didn't even know who
he was until that little statistic. It's five twenty two.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Andrew Dickens on
Hither Duper c Allen Drive with one New Zealand explores
satellite innovation at field Day's Mystery Creek News Talk.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Said, well, you have some good news. We've already had
some good news this half out. I mean, we're in
a swirl of negativity around so many things. It's good
when we see some good news. So we've got good
news for renters, bad news for landlords. Rents in New
Zealand finally calling off recording annual price drops rather than
that relentless surge of the past decade. You can never
lose what now you can. The National Medium weekly rent

(46:22):
sits around six hundred and twenty bucks. Easing demand partly
driven by first home buyers entering the market and an
increase in available housing stock like apartments in townhouses, means
affordability is slowly improving. Hurrah, And we can't complain about
this because the affordability of housing has been a hot
political topic for decades forever. But now that we hear this,

(46:46):
we're hearing some landlords saying, wow, you can't make any
return out of actually renting out of property anymore. It's
just ruining it all in here, screaming and moaning and
gnashing your teeth. So here, it is careful what you
wish for when so much of our economy rides on
the shoulders of housing. The rent is going down, your
returns are going down. I'm sorry, but your children might
be happy, and that's a good It's like everything, everything's

(47:07):
a good news bad news story. Cheapest place to rent
in New Zealand the West Coast one bedroom unit start
as low as two hundred and fifty bucks to three
hundred dollars a week three bedrooms four fifty in the cities.
Christ Church by far the most affordable major city for renters,
with average asking prices around five hundred and ninety dollars
a week. This town currently has everything going for it,

(47:30):
sold out super rugby things, but getting quick because it
can't last. Auckland remains pricey, but you can find cheap
homes in somethings like Otara ra Nui Tuakau, my family home,
my family mess, that's where we came from. It's about
five hundred bucks a week. Then again, of course you
live in those places, you've got some evil commutes. And

(47:50):
then this poor old Wellington Central rentals have seen a
major correction. They've dropped over nine percent year on year,
plunging downwards. I jokingly said, when are they going to
change the slogan of Wellington to absolutely negatively Wellington? Andrew
Dickens is now before all the Wellington people decided to

(48:12):
text me and say that's terrible. I would like to
remind you I lived in Wellington for two years and
I love the place. You cannot beat Wellington on a
good day where it is beautiful, but many other days
these days haven't been quite as sunny and rosy as
you might have wanted. All Right, we got the huddle
coming up, Morris Williamson and Josie PEGANI so they'll have

(48:33):
a bit to say. I know what Josie wants to
say about the labor list. She says it's populated with activists.
What the hell are they playing it? She's not happy
about it, and she's a lefty, So the huddle's coming.
On the Drive Show with Andrew Dickens right here on
News Talks AB.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
The Day's Newsmakers talk to Andrew First Andrew Dickens on
Hither duplessy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand explore satellite innovation.
At field Day's Mystery Creek News Talk Sibby.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
They played that song Oasis, Don't Look Back in Anger
right before the big game, all Whites versus England, and
I was a pig in the proverbia at that moment,
a bit of Oasis being played before some football, including
my country playing one of the great countries that I
was originally born in. So that was quite beautiful, now
you remember, I asked. I asked Christopher Hipkins if he
knew the rules are in the New Zealand Police Elections

(49:39):
and Political Matters Manual, which was released in December of
twenty twenty three, and he said, well, all he knows
is the public service rules around that. The core requirements
are you must disclose your intention to your employer early,
you cannot campaign while employed, and you must resign before
being nominated as a candidate. As you just heard of
the news Christ's answer to my question was that Rakesh

(50:01):
and I Do informed his supervisor one week before today,
one week. I asked you as that disclosing your intention early.
Do you really believe that mister and I Do was
in fact not involved with the labor party for some
considerable weeks, if not months, or maybe even years before that,
considering his candidacy, And was one week really enough? And

(50:23):
here's the other thing. So Christopher Hickens claims that mister
and I Do told his supervisor and now one week
later Richard Chambers, the Commissioner said I only heard last night.
And Mark Mitchell, the Minister said I only heard last night.
That's one week later. So no, that Christopher Hickins just
threw the cops under the bus. He suggested that the

(50:46):
supervisor of ni DO has been remissing informing the chain
up the land. You wonder why police don't like you,
Christopher Dickens. A new way to make ends, a new
way to pay? Should I say, if you've got a
dog in the pound at the Ugland Council. And this
is because owners have been struggling to make ends meet
after pay has been trial for eight months of three

(51:08):
main shelters, and that began in April, so they've had
a look at it and it's first month. Fifteen percent
of all payments use the buy now, pay later scheme
on the tick, and at least a third of m
pounded dogs normally go unclaimed. The Council's regional animal shelter manager,
Nicki Cripps, joins me now Hella Nikki, hello, thank you
for having me. So more dogs being claimed now that

(51:30):
people can play on the never Never, we.

Speaker 21 (51:33):
Have seen an increase in dogs being claimed. Obviously, the
trials still early days, so it's hard to say whether
it's solely down to that. We've got other incentives happening
at the same time.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Okay, do you think you've had eight months? Do you
think this is a policy that is workable?

Speaker 21 (51:50):
I think it's Yeah, it's looking great. I mean we're
only started in March for the eight month trial, so
it's still in those early days that we're looking at,
but so far it's got really positive results.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Am I right? And immediately presuming that a lot of
people who actually own a dog can't even afford to
run a dog, can't afford to the bills that come
with the dog, so when their dog then runs feral
and gets caught by the pound, they can't even afford
to get them out unless they have an afterpay option,
which would suggest that they weren't good owners in the
first place.

Speaker 21 (52:20):
I can understand the theory behind that. We understand there's
a multitude of reasons why people can't get the dogs out.
There are some people that their financial situation has changed
since they've taken on a dog. But ultimately we can't
control who chooses to own a dog or decisions they
make when taking on that responsibility. So we've just tried
to come up with another method, another option for them

(52:42):
to reduce the risk of the dogs going unclaimed.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
And the concern of everybody is dangerous dogs, So is
there a child Some more dangerous dogs will end up
back in the community when it's easier to reclaim the dog.

Speaker 21 (52:54):
No, not necessarily, so we still follow our same processes
for dogs that have come in, you know, for an
aggressive reason or foreign attack. There's still the process that
we follow for those. So it doesn't mean a dog
will automatically be released just because the payment has been made.
There's a whole different process that's followed with.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Those well, NICKI, thank you so much for your time today.
Nicki Crips is the Auckland Council Regional Animal Shelter Manager.

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Speaker 2 (53:23):
So on the Hild today we've got Morris Williams and
Orkland City Councilor and former MP, and Josie Pegari joins
us as well. Hello people, Hello God Andrew. It's been
a bad hour for Christopher Hipkins with the announcement from
Richard Chambers that he had no idea that n Do
on his list was going to seek candidacy. How did
you What did you make of all of that, Josey.

Speaker 11 (53:45):
Well, I actually think rakishn I Do is one of
the stronger candidates in that sort of top list, So
I mean it's all a bit messy, yes, but I
think it'll pass and he'll end up being one of
the stronger ones on a list which looking at it,
I'd have to say is predominantly driven by old identity
politics and the sort of activist approach that the Labor

(54:08):
Party used to take under the last government. And you know,
look at the constitution of the Labor Party, Andrew, and
it's there to govern on behalf of working people. It's
not there to be a protest movement. And what worries
me about that list is the likes of and you
mentioned this, the likes of Craig Rennie. And I'm sure,
if you know, you might not like what Craig Rennie

(54:29):
says if you're not a labor supporter. But he's a
serious heavyweight for labor, and he's way down in the
fifties and he is not standing in a seat that's
going to be easy to win. It used to be
a safe labor seat. It's wrong Atie, but it's now
Wellington Bays. It's a pretty safe Green seat these days.
So I don't understand why they've put people like him

(54:51):
down the list, muck up the announcement of a good,
can really strong candidate like Wakish, and then put a
whole bunch of activists that no one's ever heard of
top of the left.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Yeah, I saw that. The Christopher can say look this
full Bright scholars on here, d Rhodes scholars here, And
I'm thinking, what do working people actually care about those
sorts of qualifications. Mars. What did you make of it
and what did you make of the n DO appointment process?

Speaker 16 (55:16):
Well, I was gobsmacked about then I do thing because
I was working at a New Zealand in nineteen eighty
six when I decided i'd seek selection for the National Party.
And as soon as I got selected, I was told
by in New Zealand I needed to stand down for
a year, which I did on no pay, and I
went from August nineteen eighty six till the elections in

(55:38):
July of nineteen eighty seven on no pay. I just
can't believe that this was organized so that when the
announcement came he would then vacate the position, go from
the police, or at least stand down until after the election.
Just a messy. I mean, you know how important it
is and to have neutrality within the police as vital,
and how that wasn't organized well in advance. So that

(55:59):
was Richard Chain was coming out the night saying he
doesn't think it's tenable. I think it damn well isn't tenable.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Yeah, And this is the thing Jose has ended out
in a hees Adhesia scenario between Chambers and Hipkins and
that's not good.

Speaker 7 (56:11):
No.

Speaker 11 (56:11):
I mean, I do think Rakesha is a senior police
officer and he told a supervisor, okay, but probably he
should have taken responsibility too to make sure that the
leadership of the police knew that he was going to
take a political position. And I mean it is a
little bit more sensitive for the police. But you know,
I think the bigger issue here, Andrew, I look at

(56:34):
that list for Labor and you know, whether it's a
national party list or whatever. I think one of the
criticisms that people had about MMP right at the very
beginning was the idea that party officials and officionados are
kind of deciding who will be in Parliament on these
secret party lists. I actually think some of the discussions

(56:54):
we're having around all of this tells you that maybe
we should have open lists. I think the case get
stronger and stronger for people to vote on who should
be on those party lists, like they do in the States,
they have primaries and so on, so that those candidates
have a mandate rather than this you know, who's popular
with the party, you know, constantly ages back in the.

Speaker 16 (57:16):
Course of course, of course, the more important thing about
the more important thing about this is the structure they've
got here. You've got last election, they got seventeen constituency
seats and seventeen lists, but they only sort of won
some of their constituencies by I don't know, eighteen I
think in Mount Albert, about one hundred and thirty elsewhere.

(57:36):
So now you've got a whole lot of people like
Ginny Anderson in South and Curan macinnulty and whire reference
on who if they do well and are going to
really put a real they will come back in this
constituent mpiece. It means you'll get a very very short
number of people coming off Labour's list. And if that's
the case, heaps and heaps of their sitting members of
Parliament are gone because they've been placed so far down

(57:59):
down exactly.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
And also Chris Hipkins was very proud of the fact
that the diversity, you know that the gender balance, the diversity.
I don't understand Mars why he even mentions that. I mean,
he may be thinking that, but why does he even
mention that, Because it suggests that people out there on
their merits well.

Speaker 11 (58:17):
And Morris, I'm butting in because I'm just furious, furious,
because this is where the Labor Party went wrong last time,
and it's doing it again. It's like it hasn't learned
me lessons. And even the way that Chippy talked about
Rakish Naidu, who I think is a very strong candidate,
the first thing he said about him is that he's

(58:37):
got ethnic identity and he's got ethnic friends. I'm sure
he brings a hell of a lot more to the
Labor Party than the fact that he's got a minority
ethnicity identity. He didn't talk about law and order, didn't
talk about keeping communities safe. Chippy just identified him on
his ethnicity.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Good point. Jersey P. Beganney, Marris Williamson, The Huddle back
after too.

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Speaker 2 (59:06):
Well on the Huddle, Morris Williamson, Josepheganey and Morris Oh
my goodness me a part of the housing crisis finally
over rents are going down.

Speaker 16 (59:15):
Yeah, look, I find this hilarious. I mean, the other
side of the house, we're climbing into the National Party
and the Coalition team in a dreadful poor housing and
rentals and all that. Well, under them, it was just
going through the roof and their numbers were astronomical. And
now suddenly the new government get and said we're going
to do something about it. Oh, you're right, I bet

(59:35):
you don't. Well, where's all the media coverage now about
fantastic outcomes and really BIPs and rental index and so on,
And it's fantastic outcome for people who.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Wanted Did you not hear my editorial at five twenty
five today? I was saying finding some good news, but
they did not.

Speaker 16 (59:53):
And I apologize for refuse. I'll go back and do
it as soon as we hang up.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
We've been complaining about this, Josie, for you and I
for fifteen years, if not longer, about you know, the
rents keep going up, the houses keep going up, and
everyone was saying, you know, political parties coming out saying
we'll control the increase. Now it happens and people are
starting to go, oh, but now I don't have capital gain,
I don't have money to spend, and now I'm not
getting rents and they starting to complain about it. Be

(01:00:17):
careful what you wish for, Josie.

Speaker 11 (01:00:19):
Oh, we're always going to be miserable about something but
I think Morris's a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Part of that.

Speaker 11 (01:00:24):
Of you though, because I mean to be fair, this
started in terms of supply, and that's really what's leading
this is housing supply. We've got more houses being built
and that did start under the last Labor government, and
you're right, Morris, Nationals continued it. So I think actually
both parties deserve some credit to this because the big

(01:00:45):
change that we're seeing is the increase in supply. Now
there's also things like that the Gnats have have reintroduced
interest deductibility, and possibly that has also impacted because landlords
no longer need to recoup quite so much. Although I
do agree with shammerbal Lacap the simplicity economists who said

(01:01:07):
that that rents are pretty much determined by what tenants
can pay, so their ability to pay, rather than landlord's costs.
So there's a whole bunch of things that are contributed
to it.

Speaker 16 (01:01:17):
I think, though I've got to defend myself here. My
point was that when National we're making all these changes
to policy, the other side was saying this won't work,
this won't do anything, this will make rents more expensive,
and of course the alternative outcome has come about. And
I don't hear Chris Hipkins one at any state saying, well,
at least what the government has done is it's done

(01:01:37):
something about rental costs. You don't hear a muther, not
a mermaad.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Or was most part the people aren't also congratulating the
Labor Party for thrusting us into an economic situation where
we're in a recession and that the money got more
and more expensive and they got harder and harder to
actually have any spare money to invest. So thank you Labor,
Absolutely correct.

Speaker 11 (01:01:54):
I would say also to be pre sectives could say
you're welcome started building more houses under the last labor
government and thank you to the nets they continued it so.

Speaker 16 (01:02:06):
Ata how many more houses did they?

Speaker 22 (01:02:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:02:11):
How much?

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
How many? Well not one hundred thousand, not one hundred thousand, that's.

Speaker 11 (01:02:17):
For sure, and that's good.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
So Morris, rather than a stream stop it national, the
National has done something. They've said that they're going to
outlaw run it straight. Is that right, Morris? Or should
we just let daanism take its course. I mean, it's
your your body, it's your personal property. You can do
what you like if you want to run at somebody
and kill yourself. That's your your choice or no.

Speaker 16 (01:02:42):
I'm very reluctant to try to be, you know, a
nanny state and control things. But what I do find
unbearable is that if anybody does cause themselves harm and damage,
you can be up for hundreds of thousands, if not more,
in ACC costs that we're all going to pay for.
So how about we do this. How about when you
want to play the run it Straight, you want to
enter the competition, when you fill out your form at
the bottom, you sign an ACC waiver says if you're

(01:03:05):
ever hurt, damaged, or anything during this nonsensical sport, you're
not covered by the ACC levees that are poor old,
hard working key's having to pay. So you can go
out and be an idiot. I'd let them go ahead. Then,
I'd let them play and do what they like, and
they're just not covered for any costs if they happen
to break their heads open.

Speaker 11 (01:03:24):
Boy, look, boys are always going to do stupid things
like run at each other and try and hurt each other,
although to be fair, girls do it too. Where I
grew up in the tiny village and the Cotswolds, we
had a game where we take the brakes off our
bikes and we go down the steepest possible hill and
the person who wins is the person who doesn't fall
off and stays on. So there are multiple broken arms.

(01:03:45):
But I think that the issue here is more about
the fact that it's become a bit of a business
where there are large cash prizes, and you know, it's
a bit like cage fighting or dog fighting or something
like that. So I think that, yeah, I agree with
Mitch to change legislation.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Good only Josey began, Yeah, I used to play that
game with the bikes as well. Nobody died. It is
a seven to six.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
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Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
He still Si b Ben reckons that the supervisor at
the Cops who might have got mister Naidu's intention to
apply for a nomination for the labor party, that the
supervisor is not the employer and the rules are he
must advise the employeeer. If he only notified his supervisor,

(01:04:36):
then he has not followed proper procedures. But I think
this story is going to run and run and run
and run and we're going to find out an awful
lot about police procedure that we probably didn't know that
we needed to know in the first place. But certainly
you wonder when Richard Chambers and Mark Matchul both only
knew about this last night. You have to wonder whether
he gave appropriate notice, as determined by the very manual
that was written in December twenty twenty three, or you

(01:04:58):
have to wonder whether they purposely withheld it for the
element of surprise to say, look at this, you know,
a bit of politicking, but there we go. And whether
the answers that Chris Hipkins gave to my question were
Fulsome enough were that he wasn't trying to deflect in
any way, shape or form. Now, the big news about

(01:05:22):
Nichola Willis is that she went to a rock and
roll concert last night. She went to Matt Berninger, who's
the lead singer of the National, and he was playing
at the Holy Trinity Cathedral, and wouldn't you know it,
I was at the same concert, and wouldn't you know it,
she was right behind me, and wouldn't you know it,
she started talking to my partner, Helen, and then I
leaned over and said Hello, Nicola rock and roll. So

(01:05:43):
she was out with her brothers and she was having
a great time. Husband and partner back in Wellington. They
had some sport to do the next day, so you know,
it was all good. This was Friday night. So Nichola
Willis is my very special guest right after the news,
and we're going to talk about this one found one
billig this one billion dollar some of money that has

(01:06:04):
been set aside for something, but nobody knows what, and
the speculation is rife, and you wonder why we didn't
get details earlier or even in the budget. So we
need to ask her directly, what's the billion for Nicola?
By minister this morning said us it's an accounting thing.
You put it's a billion dollar accounting thing. Jordan Williams
reckons it might be free solar. I mean well, I

(01:06:26):
asked Nicola right after news right here on News Talks here.

Speaker 18 (01:06:29):
Bus no one's way, Why, what's up?

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Good evening and welcome to the programs. She's all go
on the south coast of Wellington right now, so stay
safe and joining us for Wellington. It's welcome to the
Financial Minister Nicola will Us. Hello Nicola, Hi Andrew. Very
good to see you on Friday night at Matt Bellinger
at the Holy Trinity Cathedral, letting your hair down and
enjoying some very fine music. Indeed, yeah, and.

Speaker 6 (01:07:27):
I got to catch up with my brother and my
brother in law, so it was a good night.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Was Now what's with that one billion dollars pre allocated
in the budget? The Prime Minister this morning said it
had something to do with provisions for accounting. Jordan Williams
reckons it's solar. I've got someone texting me right now
asking if it's a bribe for Winston Peters. So what
is it?

Speaker 6 (01:07:47):
It is none of the above, and I'm afraid it's
very boring. So are you ready for the boring explanation please?
It reflects our provision for a potential capital to operating
forecast change and transport spend that is subject to future
decisions and may or may not eventuate. So that is
literally what it is, and we will be taking policy

(01:08:08):
decisions on that over the next few weeks and months,
will be very clear about what those decisions are, so
that by the pre election update when we open up
the books, we can be clear whether that money is
in fact required or not.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
So for a road, what road.

Speaker 6 (01:08:23):
No, it's about the forecasting of transport spending and how
much of that will be capital spending and how much
of that will be operating spending. So what we did
at the budget was we were transparent that some money
that had previously been provisioned as capital spending may need
to be seen as operating spending, so we provisioned for
that against the operating allowance. However, this all came up

(01:08:46):
quite late in the budget process, and so we want
to work through a few more questions and issues before
we make that allocation permanent.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
And is it because you're sort of negotiating public private
partnerships or go through and have to actually put some
of your own money in.

Speaker 6 (01:09:02):
No, No, it's literally that we've been going through the
books of the Land Transport Fund since some issues came
up late in the piece, so we wanted to be
upfront about that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
It's only a couple of weeks since the budget. What
can you have said it then? Because it is a
transparency issue, and if Labor did this, you'd jump up
and down about holes and a lack of transparency.

Speaker 6 (01:09:23):
Well, no, we were completely transparent, which is that we
provisioned for it for exactly that reason. I'd just like
to give you a bit of context. Andrew and their
pre election update in twenty twenty three, Labor had pre
allocated more than half of the twenty budget twenty twenty
four budget and about that much of the following two budgets.

(01:09:45):
They had allocated almost nine billion dollars worth of spending
from the budget twenty four budget. That is not what
is happening here. It's a very small pre allocation relative
to that, and as I say, we're tending to take
further work on that, so it may be that we
unwind some of it, but either way will be completely upfront. Okay,

(01:10:07):
you've changed about those costs.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Look how you've changed being in this job. You say
it's a very small allocation. It's one billion dollars your
reference billion dollars.

Speaker 6 (01:10:17):
Okay, Well, compared to Labour's nine billion dollars that they
pre allocated. I just think it's a little bit hypocritical
and arms about it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
So fresh from labor saying, well, what's happening with this
dodgy one billion dollars which you've told us the boring
reason for it, they now say you've got four hundred
and fifty million dollars set aside for the Middle East
crisis if it escalates, and they're calling that a slush
fund available to you all the way up to the election.
Is that a fair point?

Speaker 6 (01:10:45):
At the opposite is the case? They're absolutely wrong. What
we have done is we've said we acknowledge that events
in the Middle East are beyond our control. It is
possible that over the next twelve months, fuel prices could
like again, or they could stay a lot higher for longer.
If that happens, we acknowledge that we may consider further temporary,

(01:11:08):
timely and targeted responses. So rather than wish that away
and pretend it would never happen and then just wrap
it up on the debt, instead, we took the prudent
step of provisioning for that in our budget. This is
us being really upfront, really transparent. It's something we hope
won't happen. Hope is not a strategy so we've prepared accordingly.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
So money that has been targeted, if you need it,
it's nearly half a billion dollars, it must be something,
because you've costed it. What are you imagining might be happening.

Speaker 6 (01:11:41):
It's no, it's us planning for the worst case scenario,
which would be fuel prices going higher again and staying
higher for longer. What would happen to side funding. Well,
at that point we would consider temporary and targeted measures
to respond to that. And you've seen the sort of
things that we've done already. So for example, we provided

(01:12:03):
that increased to the in work text credit for low
income working families. We provided additional support for the mileage
for those health and community workers who have to travel
around in their cars for work. We've provided additional funding
for a number of government agencies who faced fuel costs.
So those are the responses we've already taken that have
already been budgeted for. But we're acknowledging. Look, if there

(01:12:25):
was another big spike, we might need access to some
funding rather than just do a labor and rerat that
on the debt. We've provisioned for.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
That all right now, mister Luxeon, I went over to
see mister Alberze and they seem to have a jolly
good old time and they seem to get on quite well.
And there was a lot of to and throw and
of course there was some talk that when you attacked
Australia on Labour's tax reform that that was a bit
vicious and we're just a little bit heavy. But Anthony
Alberese called it bentter. So was it benter or did

(01:12:55):
you have a real gripe?

Speaker 18 (01:12:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:12:57):
Look, Prominis Albanesi and Prome, Minister Luxe and get along
very well. And I get along very well with my
counterpart Jim Charmers as well. We've got a healthy rivalry
Australia in New Zealand, just as it is on the
sports field, so it is between us as countries. You know,
the Aussies come here and they compete for our police
and our skilled workers from time to time. Equally, I've

(01:13:19):
been putting out the welcome mat saying, look, if you
want to do a startup in New Zealand, good NEWSS.
No capital gains tax here, so come here to create
your jobs and then comes we'd love to have you.
And as Anthony Alberizi acknowledges that that kind of banter
is all in the spirit of a healthy competitive relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
And let's just get back, of course, to the fuel crisis,
which is still the dominant force in the world's economy.
You've got an additional ninety three million liters of diesel
storage at Marson Point.

Speaker 6 (01:13:47):
Yeah, that's right, and we have fuel and a tanker
already on its way. It's less than a fortnight away
to fill up those tankers. And then another shipmentth due
in July, and that's to provide an additional nine days
worth of fuel, so that we've got a bigger buffer.
If everything took her turn for the worst and we
were thinking there were challenges getting diesel, that would mean

(01:14:09):
that we had a bigger reserve here in New Zealand. Again,
it's us as a government being prudent. We hope for
the best, we plan for the worst.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
All right, Nikola, Asi is another gig. I'm going to
Leon Thomas on Tuesday, so I'll look out for you
if you're there letting your head down there.

Speaker 6 (01:14:23):
Well, I'm afraid me going to a gig is a
rear event, but I really hope you enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
Thank you.

Speaker 18 (01:14:27):
So much.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
And that is our finance minister, that is Nikola Willis.
Now the US share market was down on Friday. Iran
and Israel have been trading missile strikes today. So let's
talk about the economy as a whole with Shane Soley
from Harbor Asset Management. He's joining us after the break.
It is a quarter past six.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Right to the numbers. At seventeen minutes after six, the
NZNX fifty is downpoint i'm four percent today. The ASX
fifty is down point seventy five percent so far today,
a barrel of bred crude oil is eighty eight bucks US.
That's up three point nine two percent. One New Zealand
dollar is worth fifty eight US cents, eighty two Australian cents,
fifty euro cents, forty four UK pens and ninety three

(01:15:18):
Japanese Yet. Andrew Dickens, all right, we're joined now by
Shane Sally, who's from Harbor Asset Management. Welcome in, Shane.

Speaker 23 (01:15:26):
Yeah, Hey, Andrew.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
The uscare market down on Friday, that was because of
a weakness in the information technology sector, particularly the semiconductors.
So what's happening with semi conductors.

Speaker 23 (01:15:37):
Yeah, what's called the Philadelphia Philadelphia Semiconductor in the excess
nine is the socks fell more than ten percent on Friday.
A couple of key reasons behind andrews. Firstly, we saw
a stronger US non farm labor so basically more people
were employed. That's given markets concerned about the US for
the Reserve removing the risks, so they're not living to

(01:15:57):
do rate cuts and people were saying they worry about them.
They increases that push bond yards up, so not good
for valuations. Secondly, Broadcom, one of the big semiconductor companies
on Thursday, get a pretty flat revenue outlock. Market didn't
like that, wanted more. Third there's definitely a case where
investors may be taking profits to use money to invest
in some of these exciting new companies that are listing

(01:16:19):
on the market. Semiconductor is pretty crowded trade. Also, it's
a very cyclical sector. It is sensitive to new supply
and there's some new large fabrications coming on. So one
of the things we're watching for Andrew is the rest
of the market, the non tech sector was pretty pretty
solid hold up per case, So it does seem to
be a tech semiconductor issue. Not crying too much so

(01:16:42):
that semiconductor index in the US up seventy percent year
to that, even with Friday's ten percent four.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
Meanwhile, it's all about the war, and the war kicks on,
sputtering on. It ran as rail trading, missile strikes today.
So what does that do to the market.

Speaker 23 (01:16:57):
Yeah, I think we've just seen this re escavation of
a bit of East tension. Did see the oil price
gup as you mentioned that Brent oil pros currently trading
at ninety seven forty US would have been higher, but
we're actually seeing Chinese buyers really pull back anyway, So
they're actually helping the rest of the world by not
buying at the moment, but nonetheless that higher for longer

(01:17:17):
energy impact that sees people worried about inflation, a lot
of growth contribute to a bit of a risk off tone. Really,
we've seen it in the Asian markets today. The Korean
market down eight point two percent as we speak, and
the Japanese market down four point two percent as we speak,
so pretty weak.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
What about local investment markets?

Speaker 23 (01:17:37):
Yeah, look I think what we saw here was a
bit of a pop up in our bond years.

Speaker 19 (01:17:40):
A ten year gament bond.

Speaker 23 (01:17:41):
Years, that's importin it's a hurdle, which it's the benchmark
for low risk. So tenu gament bond yos up to
zero point Sidney sent back to four point six percent,
you know, and dollar a lot bit weaker. You don't
share market down as you're saying, led by Orkanny important
for til Meridi and some of the big caps, but
a very light volume. Today is not a big day
for volume. Were watching the US shear market futures to

(01:18:02):
see whether they sell off from Friday continues, some very
anxious investors at this stage pretty flat. So but as
people watching closely, all.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
Right, what else are you watching out for this week?

Speaker 23 (01:18:14):
Yeah, look, we're watching locally. We're seeing a bit few
data pieces that really might help us in terms of
understanding how weak things have gotten the last three months.
Tomorrow we've got the New Zealand Manufacturer Index out for
the first quarter, and then Friday we've got the Business
New zeal And Manufacturing and Performance and Index for May
and net migration breaker, so again a litmus test. We
know it's been very shoppy. These are there as a

(01:18:35):
bit more confirmation. Chinese data out Tuesdays and export data
and inflation data on Wednesday, again important for US as
an exporter into China, and then the US consumer price
inflation out Thursday and US production price inflation on Friday.
They're important because it comes back to how far does
the feed, how fast is if you'd have to change rates,

(01:18:56):
so bond markets there and control.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
And very importan because the data will cover actually war period.
So that's something we really want to know. And I
thank you so much. Shane Soley from Harbor Asset Management,
thank you so Aaron's questioning my interviewing technique. I said,
why did you ask the questions you had planned for
the ministers and then accept their answers. Willis said multiple
times that the four hundred and fifty million was set
in case fuel spikes again. Newsflash, it spikes months ago.
It is still the same today. Newsflash, Aaron, She's always

(01:19:20):
responded to those spikes. Meanwhile, the fuel price is now
wandering in the same level. It hasn't spiked again, It
hasn't spiked the second time. Yes, it's at a higher level,
so there's no She was saying extra spikes going up again.
We'll see how we go, because what we're all playing
for is for the price to come down, are we not?
And I meanwhile, Aaron also says with the Hipkins candidate

(01:19:42):
Hipkins said, you know, and I do report it to
a supervisor. Newsflash. Both his supervisors had no idea, Is
that right, Aaron? Have you asked them because nobody has yet.
We've asked Richard Chambers, and we've asked Mark Mitchell, but
we haven't asked the immediate supervisor. And I think you'll
find that's what's going to be asked tomorrow once we
hunt these people down. News TALKSB. It is six twenty.

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Was our last night.

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Our kids can live making groups of seats with this
Are's Morgan Wallan. Morgan Walland is dominating American radio. He's
also creating a few headaches. He canceled a major show
in Pittsburgh at the last minute on Saturday night, leaving
thousands of fans disappointed and the official reason was a
storm and safety concerns. It's this one problem. The storm
never arrived at Rumors quickly spread online that mister Wallen

(01:21:44):
Morgan Wollen had already left the city before the decision
to cancel was made, and that didn't go down well.
So badly in fact, that Morgan Wollan had to address
all the speculation on social media.

Speaker 7 (01:21:56):
This morning.

Speaker 18 (01:21:57):
My team walked on my bus.

Speaker 24 (01:21:59):
They said that there was going to be strong wins
in the area. So I did the best I could
with the information I had in that moment. I've been
seeing a lot of nonsense about me that is simply
not true, and I just wanted to clear the air.
I think my true fans know that that's not how
I operate in general, but I had to say it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
Y'a'll take care, thank you. Then things got even weirder.
A video wre viral yesterday's show Morgan grabbing a phone
from a security guard during the concept. The guard was
filming him shame Whilan took the phone, launched it across
the stadium like a ninjastar. The phone's final destination is
currently I Know Him comes. Just days after Morgan tripped
over one of his pianos in a bit of fit

(01:22:37):
of frustration during his show in Denver. So he might
be looking at anger management classes and of course his
insurance premiums might be going out. News and sports on
the way and still to come could news for Air
New Zealand's with Grant Bradley. This is Newsalt tibit, Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
You back, whether it's macro, micro or just plain economics
on the Business Hour with Andrew Dickens and Mass Insurance
and Investments, Your futures in good Hands, Used talksivvy, Well Native.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
Done, Welcome back to the program and produce a lot.
Is in an oasis groove at the moment there's three
oasis songs were played or that oayses we go. Big
story of the moment, of course, is the labored list
and how labor seem to have got it a bit wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
They do.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
A policeman, you know on the list. The list is
provisional until nomination day. We've discovered that that's for sure.
But when you actually decide to become a political candidate,
you're supposed to quit your job. Morris Williamson quit his
job at Are on no pay, and then you stay
on a job until you're elected, and then you've got

(01:23:56):
a new job, and if you're not elected, you can
possibly go back to your old job if you if
you're very you've got to inform your supervisors, You've got
to inform your employer. So Labor is claiming that ni
Do actually did inform his supervisor last Thursday, but the
big boss, Richard Chambers, didn't know about that until last night,
and Mitchell didn't know about that till last night. And

(01:24:17):
it's a feeling major issue right here. So who's right
and who's wrong and who did the wrong thing? One
thing is for sure, it's a mess. Why can't Labor
just announce the list without these sorts of problems? Why
didn't they check out all this sort of stuff before
it actually got mentioned the way it has done by
Richard Chambers. Now here's the good thing for you. Richard
Chambers is on with Kerry Woodham tomorrow for an hour

(01:24:39):
of talkback, so he'll be talking about this at length
and you'll get it all from his mouth. Meanwhile, we're
going to be talking on the Breakfast Show with the
Police Association and they're going to tell us exactly what
the rules are when you have a policeman who decides
he wants to stand as a candidate for parliament, who
he has to tell and what he has to do
and how much of it is actually on Naidu's head. Surely,

(01:25:00):
as soon as he told the police I'm going for parliament,
he should have just walked away and not come back
to work until he either got in or did not.
So it's a mess and it's just not a good
look about running stuff, if you know what I mean.
It is twenty two to seven. Air New Zealand says
finally something's going right. They say their long running engine

(01:25:21):
problems are finally easing. So in recent years, up to
twenty percent of the airline's fleet has been grounded by
global engine maintenance delays, and the airline estimates those disruptions
cost it about ninety million dollars in earnings in the
first half of the financial year. But Chief executive Nikil
Ravishanka says by the end of the month only two

(01:25:41):
aircraft will still be unfliable.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Grant Bradley is an aviation industry expert, former New Zealand
Herald aviation journalists former correspondent with Me on the Afternoon
The Hour show Grant loved to talk to you again.

Speaker 14 (01:25:55):
Absolutely nice to speak Andrew.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Finally a win for Air New Zealand. Something's going right.

Speaker 14 (01:26:01):
Yeah yeah, look, it's could turn out to be a
decade of pain.

Speaker 18 (01:26:07):
Really.

Speaker 14 (01:26:07):
They started having problems with Rolls Voice engines on their
Dreamliners back in twenty seventeen, and these were quite severe
problems that needed a very quick facts but it turned
out to be a long running problem with them.

Speaker 6 (01:26:22):
But you know.

Speaker 7 (01:26:25):
Sid's law.

Speaker 14 (01:26:26):
They also had an aircraft, sorry, an engine type on
their smaller planes domestic and short hall planes, the Spread
and Whitney engines that turned out also needed a major
fix and so almost unique and among airlines and having

(01:26:49):
both engine types, so extremely bad luck. But light at
then the tunnel.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
Is this going to get their bottom line out of
a nosedive?

Speaker 14 (01:27:00):
Yeah, look, this is its early days really on that front.
I think some analysts have been picking a four year
loss of four hundred million plus that will see Reporter.

Speaker 7 (01:27:16):
And all this.

Speaker 14 (01:27:17):
So yeah, that's a that's a that's a huge hole
arm to to fill and then recover from.

Speaker 17 (01:27:24):
But this is.

Speaker 14 (01:27:27):
This is you know, it could be the start of
the recovery there with New sorry, with their all their
existing fleet back in action by the beginning of next year.
The latest and and also more exciting is seeing new
Dreamliners come into their fleet with brand new cabins and

(01:27:49):
designed for these ultra long haul routes. The the it's
a it's a multi year recovery from from the whole
they're in.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
But yeah, yeah, now, look, this engine thing has been
going on for seven years, right, or you see basically
a decade of problems. But yeah, it's been going on
for seven years, and it was all resolved and all
talked about at the World Airline Summit, and the head
of that conference, which was held in Brazil, said that
the engine factories have been gouging the airlines and taking

(01:28:22):
how long it took to fix the problem and all
that and the fact that the problem was a problem
in the first place. Do you think he was right?
Are the engine factories gouging airlines?

Speaker 18 (01:28:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:28:31):
Look there engine makers, airframe makers like Airbus and Boeing
their profit driven companies. They're going to get what they
can by selling they what they make, so and then
when things go wrong, the recovery is not always as

(01:28:54):
quick as what it should be. There's been tens of
millions of dollars being paid compensation here, but that hasn't
hasn't gone anywhere near covering the opportunity costs that's been
lost by New Zealand by not having aircraft to fly
people around, especially maybe eighteen months a year ago when

(01:29:17):
there was huge demand but they didn't have the planes. Yeah,
and I guess in a way rather ironically, they're finally
getting all their planes back at a time when they're
actually having to trim routes because of the current fuel crisis.

Speaker 2 (01:29:34):
Well, I was going to ask about that. I was
going to ask about that because the summit in Brazil
is all the airlines getting together and having a chin bar,
and so they'll be talking about the situation and the
straight up horr moves and the implications of the Iran
Israel USA conflict. Are you hearing anything coming out of
that that's about how airlines are getting through and what
they're expecting.

Speaker 14 (01:29:53):
Oh, look, the airlines of the figures don't look great.
They acting to among them make profits of around about
forty billion this year. Now that's been halved, that outlook's
been halved, and that's on the back of the seventy
percent rise and jet fuel prices. You know, just how

(01:30:17):
quickly they can recover that as the great question, you know,
as the airline, So they burn money quickly, but they
can earn money quickly, and they can turn around these
losses into superprofits quite quickly if they get the tail
wins and it does happen. It's very highly volatile sector.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
Absolutely all right, Grant love you to talk to you again,
carry on with the good work. At is seventeen minutes
to seven. This is newb now Stuff's first ever Health
of the Nation survey is out. So how healthy and
how are we feeling? Are we?

Speaker 7 (01:30:49):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
Two thirds rate their health as good or excellent? Good
on you. Mental and emotional health now mattered just as
much as physical fitness. But despite feeling pretty healthy, Kiwis
are very worried about the healthcare system. Twenty percent are
concerned about rising GP costs, emergency department wait times, staff shortages,
surgery delays, and access to specialist care. It was a
survey of fifteen hundred people found that nearly half of

(01:31:11):
us live with a long term health condition, and for
many it affects our daily life. There's stress, there's burnout, exhaustion,
chronic pain, fatigue, and poor sleep. A coarter to say
their health is worse than a year ago. Key concerns
include fitness, weight, aging, and mental health. And even more
worrying is that many people aren't getting help. Forty five
percent are on long term medication, yet seventy percent admit

(01:31:34):
they've delayed seeking health care because of the cost, because
of the lack of access, or uncertainty about whether their
issue was serious enough. So my executive summary in this
New Zealanders care more than ever about well being, but
confidence in the health system is under serious strain. Might
need some medicine. It is coming up a quarter to seven.
Gavin Gray from the UK.

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
Next everything from SMEs to the big corporates, The Business
Hour with Andrew Dickens and where's insurance and investments your
futures in good heads used talks.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
It'd be thirteen to seven. Keevin Gray from the UK.
Good afternoon to.

Speaker 7 (01:32:13):
You a her Andrew.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
I've just actually read out all the figures of the
state of the nation of health in New Zealand from
a stuff pole from fifteen hundred people, and people are
very concerned about it. And not only that it's the
same thing happening in the UK really where they're worried
about A and E.

Speaker 25 (01:32:29):
Departments, Yes, so accidental emergency or the er the emergency
room as it is in some countries where The latest
survey shows that a number of patients dying after enduring
long waits in the UK has risen almost tenfold in
a decade now, partially that is because the sheer number
of people now presenting to A and E quite extraordinary.

(01:32:51):
In twenty twenty five, those the most recent figures, we
have nearly seventeen million patients attended a so called Type
one emergency to partment that's a twenty four hour consult
on the consultant lead facility. That is the highest number
ever recorded. But I'm afraid that also meant, because the
infrastructure simply isn't able to cope, that only two thirds

(01:33:14):
were transferred or discharged within the four hour time period.
That's well below the target of ninety five percent. And
that meant that some five hundred thousand nearly remained for
twenty four hours or longer in A and E. That's
an increase of one hundred and fifty thousand. There were

(01:33:35):
nearly sixteen thousand deaths in England, which in some way,
sometimes very small, but in some way were linked to
long weights in A and e the equivalent of more
than three hundred every week. And this has given the
opportunity for the Royal College of Emergency Medicine here in
the UK to say, look, these weights are skyrocketed. They've
gone up a decade, tenfold in a decade, as I said,

(01:33:56):
and this government needs to stop looking at quick fixes
and look at longer term solutions to what's going on now.

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
Vladimir Zelensky reached out to Vladimir Putin saing co on
in this war, man, you're hurting, And of course European
allies have come out and supported that letter.

Speaker 25 (01:34:16):
Yes they have, and they've were met together in Downing
Street at the weekend. So that's Lodimier Zelensky, the UK
Prime Minister, the French President of the German Chancellor saying
that look, we're going to stand firmly with Ukraine. Where
we've heard that before, but they have now issued five
conditions for a long and lasting peace and a deal
to end this war. And those conditions are obviously a

(01:34:39):
stop to the fighting starting negotiations from the current position
in the field of war and that's pretty important, as
well as what they're calling robust security guarantees for Ukraine.
But the question here, Andrew, is anyone listening. Donald Trump's
focus has shifted to the war in Iran. Vladimir Putin
was offered that open letter to end the war and says, no,

(01:35:01):
I don't want to talk until we've got what we
want sort of thing. And may people feel now that
Ukraine is just being forgotten by the world as it
focuses on the Street of Horn Moves and Iran. So
a pretty telling a few hours at Downing Street where
they're trying to reinvigorate and highlight some of the problems
facing by Ukraine and things that we and others can do.

(01:35:24):
But yeah, big question is anyone listening to what's now
being said about Ukraine?

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
And of course they're getting ready for the World Cup,
and Ukraine has playing some football and they were playing
it against Denmark, but unfortunately one of the footballers in
the Danish side had a terrible, terrible medical emergency.

Speaker 25 (01:35:39):
Yes, they did very unpleasant scenes. Again now to be clear,
neither Denmark nor Ukraine qualified for this year's World Cup,
but they're part of those teams that are in the America,
Canada and Mexico in order to help play friendlies. Just
as of course England played New Zealand and that Ericson had.
This footballer from Denmark, Christian Erikson, had off at a

(01:36:00):
cardiac arrest and had to be resuscitated on the pitch
in a YEU of twenty twenty game in twenty twenty
one that was against Finland. Now he was fitted with
a special heart starting device known as an implantable cardioverta defibrillator,
but sadly on the pitch the thirty four year old
suddenly collapsed at the weekend and is well did manage

(01:36:20):
to walk off the pitch and is being want it?
It's so our best wishes are.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
I wondered whether he was the guy who at first
happened to That's an incredible story and can I can
I just say England beating New Zealand one nill is
actually a defeat for England.

Speaker 25 (01:36:33):
Yes, I completely agree, you do very well.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
Oh yeah, well, well we could have done been And
I have to say, but you guys need to score
more goals because it's our year, isn't it. This It's
coming home, isn't it. Gavin, come on, come on, well.

Speaker 25 (01:36:46):
We're doing okay at the cricket at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
Okay, you had to do that, didn't you. Gavin? Goodbye?
It is eight to seven.

Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
It's the hitherto per Se Allan Drive Full Show podcast
on iHeartRadio Power by News Talk Zibbi.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
Now you may remember last week I went on a
little bit of a random rant about phrases that are overdees,
like that's a good question or one percent or absolutely.
It appears that I've got some people who are actually
playing a bingo game or maybe even a drinking game
about this. And apparently on the first hour of my show,
do you would like to report that? In that first
hour we had one that's a good question. After I

(01:37:25):
asked the question, one person who said one hundred percent
and one absolutely. That's three already. I mean, you know,
so if you are keeping the count, keep count. Another
text through someone's just finished watching TV three news Absolutely
nothing on Paul Cole's British Open win. Well, that's big news.
That's the British Opening squash, big big event and Paul's

(01:37:46):
gone and done it again and that is big news.
They should have got it. We talked about it with
Jason Pine earlier today. Meanwhile, let's play some music. Producer
DJ Locke.

Speaker 26 (01:37:56):
Hello, Andrew, Hello, Well, this is a bit of a
flip here because you'll know more about this song than
I do. This is, in your own words, your favorite
song from the National. I Need My Girl Now. We
were going to ask the minister, finance minister what her
favorite song is, and she said, hilariously, it's mister November, so.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
Always thinking about the election she is.

Speaker 26 (01:38:16):
Unfortunately, if you're still listening, Nicola, very sorry, it's not
in our system. So we had his favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
Well, can I say this was Benagette, lead singer of
the National performing on Friday, Holy Trinity Cathedral. He sang
this and it was mesmerizing.

Speaker 26 (01:38:30):
Mesmerizing it was.

Speaker 2 (01:38:32):
It was rather except for Nicola, who was chatting a
lot during the show and some people noticed. But it
was nice to see the financial minister leaving her here down.
I'm having a good time.

Speaker 26 (01:38:41):
It's very humanizing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
It it's very humanizing. She's very much a human. She
was with her brothers. It was very nice. Thank you
to producer DJ Lock, Thank you to producer Kevin, Thank
you to producers see it up person saying I'm Andrew Dickens.
See you tomorrow. I need my girl.

Speaker 22 (01:38:55):
There's some things and us should never leave about in
front of family. I try to call you from the
party full of punks and cannon ball side.

Speaker 7 (01:39:13):
I need my girl. UH need my girl. I'm NDA
THEOK gonna.

Speaker 27 (01:39:26):
Get the wild walls fold if I the center of it.

Speaker 10 (01:39:37):
The wild walls a lot.

Speaker 27 (01:39:39):
Of things, but I am gundam gound, Davy said, said
I look talking, but I can't get my head Rother.

Speaker 28 (01:39:52):
I keep feeling smaller and smaller. Keep feeling smaller, smaller,
Keep feeling smaller, smaller.

Speaker 1 (01:40:32):
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