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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The only drive show you can try the truck to
ask the questions, we get the answers, find the fag
sack and give the analysis. Heather duplicy Ellen Drive with
One New Zealand and the power of satellite mobile News dogs.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
B Hey, good afternoon to you. Welcome to the show
coming up today. We're going to go to the Middle
East for the latest on the cease fire and answer
the question as to whether it is holding and whether
the straight UPU moves is still open or not net safe.
On the fact that New Zealand is apparently facing a
sextortion epidemic and is iced coffee really becoming more popular

(00:37):
than the old flat white, we'll have a chat to
flight coffee.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Heather dupicy Ellen, Right, Sorry.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
To have to do this, but we need to talk
about Jasinda r Dern because her testimony behind closed doors
to the Royal Commission has been revealed in the Herald today.
Now there is nothing particularly newsworthy in it, it is
more noteworthy because of what is not in the transcript.
There is no regret, no apologies, no which I suppose
you wouldn't expect, right, because this is not unusual from

(01:04):
the crew who ran our lives during COVID. The exchanges
are pretty much as evasive as you would expect them
to be, Like this one about the mandates. The commission
chair says, it would be remiss of me not to
put this question to you. You divided the nation. J
just Sinda Ardurn replies, in what regard? I mean, she
knows it. What regard? There was a bloody protest below

(01:24):
her office in the beehive. Then there's the over explaining
that we used to there is the flannel that we
used to like. When she was asked if she has
regrets and she replies, regrets a curious word. It's interesting
timing that the transcript is in the news today because,
of course, the now Emmy nominated documentary hit Netflix just
a few days ago, and it's got people discussing her again.

(01:45):
I bumped into someone at the beach over the Easter
weekend who said they just watched it the night before
and wanted to discuss it. I have a friend on
maternity leave who is halfway through it and wanted to
discuss it. And if you like me and you watch it,
you're gonna have mixed emotions. I think after watching it,
I'm not proud of New Zealand for driving that family
out of the country. I would like to think that
we're better than that. But at the same time, like

(02:08):
we said yesterday about Kanye West being pulled from the festival.
In the UK, accountability really matters. It's an important principle,
and Jacinda has dodged accountability all the way through since
she quit. Before she lost the election, she refused to
give public evidence to the Royal Commission. I think though,
the accountability she hasn't managed to avoid is when she
bumps into ordinary kiwis on the street and they tell

(02:29):
her what they think, and so she had to leave
the country. Now we will never know if things would
be less hostile towards Jacinda if she just fronted up
to that inquiry and public rather than giving this evidence
behind closed doors. We will never know because it will
never happen. But I'll tell you what we can be
sure of. Even if she'd done, it would just be
more of the same flannel, wouldn't it.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Heather Dupers the Al.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Nineteen ninety The text understandard text fields of fly now
to something else Entirely. If you're listening from Wellington, you're
going to be able to use a wave card to
catch public transport from this Sunday. This is not because
of the new national ticketing system. Remember that that's supposed
to be the card that will eventually be able to
use it on all use all the public transport across
the country. That system isn't due to be introduced to

(03:14):
Wellington until late next year, so Greater Wellington Regional Council,
if you remember, broad in its own contactless payment system
in the meantime. John Reeves is the Public Transport Uses
Association National coordinator and just with us now, Hey.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
John, good afternoon here now John.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
When I saw this being announced today that they had
the system up and running, it surprised me because didn't
they only just announce it at the end of last year.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yeah, that's true, but it's still it's still something that
we need to see how it works. I guess it
didn't a lot of testing. Fingers cross it works. Anything
that gets more people out of cars and onto the
buses and trains and ferries is great. So hopefully this
entices people to do so they don't do it. They
might just get scared about the price of petrol so
they might look anyway.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, but what I'm trying to say is if they
managed to announce US towards the end of last year
and what was it five million dollars, managed to announce
it just a few months ago, managed to get it
up and running five million dollars, what the hell is
going on central government level with the other one?

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Well, to be honest between you and me, I don't
really have a lot of faith in the inded tave
that you get involved in things. And we have seen
that they are spending five hundred and twenty seven million
dollars on the setting up they have the payment system,
Moto Move, and then there's another eight hundred million setting
it all up in all the regions around the country,
So that maybe slightly.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Vre is that total one point well.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
At one point three just over one point three billion
dollars to be set up the entire system throughout the country.
So you know, maybe it is a little bit too much.
You know how government divisions or government departments work. Sometimes
there's a bit of fatten there.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Mate, that's a huge amount of fat in there. John,
How can you relax about this?

Speaker 5 (04:52):
Well?

Speaker 4 (04:53):
I do relax because I pack tax and I know
that it's all going to go you know, probably into
a whole heap of it's going into paying for that
system set up. I'd like to see it that have
been a lot more efficient. But you know it's been
set up and there was been many years in the pipeline.
I don't know why it's been dragged out for so long.
That's something that only only the Minister of Transport could
possibly answer.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Do you think. I mean, I'm just wondering because the
thing was announced, if I remember correctly, this is the
national was announced in twenty twenty three and as you say,
costs one point three billion, and Wellington's just made an
enormous mockery of how long that's taking and how much
that's costing. I just wonder if they should ditch it.
I mean, I know there's a sunk cost, but should
they ditch it and basically just roll out Wellington's system.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Well here, I'd like to agree with you on that one.
But on the other side, you've got to think there
does need to be systems for across the country. Everything
needs to be joined up. If you don't have a
contactless payment card, then how do would you use public transport?
Some people don't want to have contact this payment cards.
You know, maybe they're still going to pay by cash
and buy tickets, or they're going to have a hot
card like an Auckland, So you need to have something

(05:57):
that works for everybody. There will be a portion that
will well to use this contact less payment card. I
don't know how much a cost to operate across the
entire country. Five million bucks for Wellington, I don't know.
That might have been just one hundred million to do
the entire country. I don't know, but it doesn't seem
like they've done quite well at five million Between you
and me. You know, I'm quite impressed at that cost.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
I'm shocked at how how flippant you are about this.
I want it like I want to be angry about it.
You're chilling me out.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
No, no, well, look, we do need to have a
nationwide system card system. Most countries in the OECD do
have that, right, we just haven't had that, so we
do need to set it up no what, and it
has to be future proof or wherever the future is
going to take us, okay much so we don't know
what that is. So we don't know exactly what they've
planned for in the one point three billion dollar system

(06:47):
all I hope is I know Christion she's got it now,
and some other towns to move got it, and there'll
be more of this year and Wellington does get it
early next year. I hope by the time it does
get around, the whole country does what it's meant to do,
because for one point three billion dollars one would hope.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
So now, John, are you disappointed at the fact that
here we are in what is a fuel crisis that
should be driving people onto public transport, only to have
the train shut down around the country.

Speaker 6 (07:12):
And emotionality, it's terrible timing, absolutely terrible timing. But you
know when they plan the structure, up grades and maintenance,
it has planned out, you know, six eight, nine months ago,
so obviously no one knew what Donald Trump had planned,
and I don't even know if Donald Trump knew what
he had planned.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
But what's happened has happened, and it's just unfortunate timing
and it's terrible timing because you and I know if
you have to get your railbus, it's usually a not
a not a great journey.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah true that Hey, John, as always, thank you for
having a chat to me that Jean reeves public Transport
Uses Association National Coordinator. We're running through some of the
tru some of the troubles with that central system shortly,
so you can see why I think they may actually
have to ditch the thing and maybe roll out Wellington's system.
We'll get to it shortly. I just wanted to bring
you up to speed with what's going on with the
straight of whole moves. So there is a little the

(08:01):
information and we're learning this is that the information that's
coming out of the Middle East appears to be a
little unclear, and we're kind of trying to piece things together.
It doesn't appear that the Strait of Humus is open
like it's certainly not working. There are no ships going through.
So since the seasfire was announced yesterday, let's say, twenty
eight hours ago, shipping has basically been at a standstill.

(08:24):
Only seven ships have gone through. Six were bulk cargo carriers,
three of them were Chinese, three were Greek owned. The
seventh vessel was a Chinese owned oil and chemical tanker,
So that doesn't help anybody else. Basically that the oil's
going to China at the same time part of the problem,
maybe it's part of the problem maybe that it's effectively closed.
Part of the problem may be that the ships are

(08:45):
being warned about how many mines there are. So Iran
has announced alternative routes for ships who want to go
through the strait, saying there are sea mines in the
main zone of the strait. So the Revolutionary Guards have
shared instructions with the ships for an alternative entry and
exit route through the strait. So we'll see if it's
open or if we're just pretending it's open. Sixteen past four.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
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Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, the John sounds like an intelligent man whose overtime
has reached the stage where nothing surprises him, where government
overspend occurs. That was actually quite an amusing segment. Paul,
I would agree with you on that.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
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Speaker 2 (09:32):
All right, Darcy Watergrave sports talkhosters with us Hello, dares
all right here now has a so who's the new
high performance bossored ens it out?

Speaker 7 (09:40):
Well, we don't know, yeah, but they're looking like Don
Trekka if you to read Gregor Paul's piece and the
Herald about their potential for him to take the rollover.
It's hard to disagree with what he says because it's
a little messy at a high performance save. In fact, most
of New Zealand rugby's been a little messy for quite
some time now and they're trying to that and slowly

(10:00):
matually they're readjusting and we've put people in place. We
know the coach now, still don't have the CEO, we
know the assistant coaches, don't know the captain. There's lots
we don't know, lots we do know. So it's believed
that the former Black Sox player and coach Don Trekker,
who's been working over season baseball for the Padres Padre

(10:21):
Padres Padresdres right, he's more than likely to pick up
that role. It's an interesting role, the high performance director,
because it's basically the boss of the coach and then
it's looking in the weeds at high performance. Now here's
a guy Scott Robinson probably wouldn't want him in this
role because he was part of the reason why Scott

(10:42):
Robertson no longer had a job and as Gregor points
out this is key because he understands the problems that
he's in with rugby had at a high performance level,
because he's already dive dove.

Speaker 8 (10:53):
What do you use it?

Speaker 7 (10:54):
Dive do divid dived? Dovan dived. He's already dived. No,
it's been too busy. I actually haven't eaten since twelve.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Problem.

Speaker 9 (11:05):
Well, I'm too busy.

Speaker 7 (11:06):
I'm trying to do other things. I'm going to eat
the second but anyway, So Don Trekker would be ideal
in that role. He's hugely respected and he's not part
of the rugby community, so he is not handed by
being a rugby man with a rugby mate. He walks
in and fresh goes right. I see the problems and
he's a pretty harsh task master. It's super nice bloke too.

(11:29):
It's great to interview. I'd love to chat to him
if he does get that role.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
He heard it, don give him a call.

Speaker 7 (11:36):
And I promise I won't stumble over my diven and doven.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Where that came from. So what is this crack down
that they're doing in Australia on the sports betting ads.

Speaker 7 (11:44):
Well, they don't want the creeping death of sports betting.
That's basically what it is. So as of the first
of January, they're putting all of these restrictions and regulations
and advertising these huge sporting bodies during game on radio,
during pick up and drop off times for the kids,
when the game's been played between a particular hours. No

(12:07):
sport advertising, gambling advertising at all, nothing on jerseys, nothing
on billboards during the games. They're really going, hey, we
cannot push this on our youth. And that's the biggest
concern because once you get them in at a young age,
then they're yours for life. Whether it's actually working and

(12:30):
they're just urinating into the wind, I won't know the
problem with sports gambling. There's a lot of people can
deal with that, they're fine. It's the small percentage of
people that can't, the probably and gamblers, they're the ones
they've really got to worry about. But it's such a
huge industry and they're not really legislating around online and

(12:50):
that's the future. That's really where it has to be.
But if you look at like cigarette advertising right back
in the day and how to operate, imagine these days.
If you saw X all black standing on screen saying,
go I'm grab yourself a durry.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
I mean you'd freak out, wouldn't you?

Speaker 7 (13:09):
But is it just as damaging cigarettes as gambling?

Speaker 4 (13:13):
Maybe it is.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (13:14):
But so watching brief from museum and they're going, okay's interesting.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
All right, dark listen what have you got on the show?

Speaker 7 (13:20):
Quickly we'll be talking to Andre Fruit, she's from the
Problem Gambling Foundation about that. And Ryan would supercar driver
joints on the shelves, well.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Good stuff? Does he water Grave Sports Store? Coast back
at seven and it's full Jeveny Dove and Doven.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
The name you trust to get the answers you need,
it's Heather Duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand coverage
like no one else us talk they'd be Heather.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
What the hell let is be? Is one point three
billion dollars go to Australia. You can use payWave credit
card for transport, no issue. It gets this story gets
so much worse. We first, So what's happening is if
you were on Akland, you're going, yeah, but we've already
got it. And if you're in christ we've already got it. Yeah,
you've already got it because we rolled it out in
Auckland and christ Church first, but it's supposed to go

(14:08):
across the whole country and that system that we're in
the middle of it, and it's a complete balls up
because it was supposed we first signed off on it
as a country back and I think it was twenty
I want to say twenty ten, like it was sixteen
years ago or something like that that it was first
signed off. Anyway, the contractor that we're paying to do it,

(14:29):
obviously huge amount of money, has just been mucking around
and mucking around, and the whole thing is just getting
worse and worse. We're delayed, delayed, delayed, delayed, delayed. The
roll out date it's now twenty twenty seven, it's supposed
to come out. It's not going to come out in
twenty twenty seven. That's going to be delayed as well.
So for one point four billion dollars, it's taken you
sixteen years, maybe seventeen, maybe eighteen years, whereas Wellington paid

(14:52):
five million got it done just like that. So I
think we've got a problem with the project. What do
you think? By the way, it's being reported that Trump
is going to apparently punish some members of NATO that
didn't help him in the Iran war. He has a
proposal that's been circulating in the last few weeks, so
they're really thinking about this. It would involve him pulling
US troops out of NATO countries that didn't help, and

(15:15):
then putting those troops into NATO countries that he considers
did help, and in some cases even closing US bases.
So the countries that might suffer a Spain because they
blocked airspace, use Germany because they criticized Trump, Italy because
they blocked the US using an air base in Sicily.
France only said yes after some guarantees. Countries that would
benefit Poland, Romania, Lithuania and Greece. News is next.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app, and in
your car on your drive home. It's Heather Duplicy Ellen
Drive with One New Zealand and the power of satellite
Mobile News Talks dB.

Speaker 10 (15:55):
Yeah, J.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Murray Al's standing by out of Australia.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
Very short.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
We're also going to go to the Middle East and
just find out exactly what is going on with the ceasefire,
whether it's holding in, whether the Strait is open. Do
you remember cam Slater if you're a politics nude. You
know who I'm talking about. He of the Dirty Politics book.
Cam Slater is still, you know, doing his thing on Twitter.
Seems to be that the I suppose the outlet of
choice at the moment, he's leaked the he's leaked the

(16:31):
National Party's Internal Comm's advice, which is basically their advice
to MPs on how to talk, how to sound like
quote straight up honest and human New Zealanders post New
Zealanders or New Zealanders are humans but fail there. But anyway, Yeah,

(16:54):
I'm not Yeah, just wait for Barry. Barry can run
us through it. You got to hear this stuff to
believe it. Honestly, he's ten minutes. It's ten away from five.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
It's the world wires on news talks, evy drivestually.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
It's twenty four away from five to dreaming. Iran has
closed the Strait of Hormus, accusing Israel of violating the
ceasefire by continuing its invasion of Lebanon. Here is jd
Vance the Veep.

Speaker 11 (17:17):
I think the Iranians thought that the ceasefire included Lebanon
and it just didn't. We never made that promise, We
never indicated that was going.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
To be the case.

Speaker 11 (17:26):
That said, the Israelis, as I understand it, have actually
offered to check themselves a little bit.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
In Lebanon.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Peace talks are still meant to go ahead, but the
White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt says Iran will have
to compromise on its ten points.

Speaker 12 (17:39):
The Iranians originally put forward a ten point plan that
was fundamentally unserious, unacceptable, and completely discarded. It was literally
thrown in the garbage by President Trump.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
President Trump has met with NATO's Secretary General Mark Rutter
and expressed his disappointment that the NATO countries didn't support
him in the war. He is Mark Rutter.

Speaker 13 (17:58):
Yes, clearly this appointed and with many natural allies, and
I can see his point. But at the same time
I was also able to a point of the defect
that the large majority of European nations has been helpful.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
And finally someone has part of the dub Beetle on the
side of a cliff face in British Columbia. So the
beatles been hollowed out and it's suspended from the top
of the cliff. A group claiming to be local engineering
students have taken credit for the prank, but the local
First Nations group says the cliff face is a sacred
site and has asked that people not suspend v dub

(18:35):
beatles in the future.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind
for New Zealand Business.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Murray Old Zozzie correspondents.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
So that's how it must Good afternoon, Hea.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
So why is it that Elbows called for Lebanon to
be included in the ceasefire.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
Well, he's joined a bunch of other international leaders. Other
countries have said exactly the same thing. I mean it's
a bit drafted, you know. You say we've got a
ceasefire in the Middle East and Israel continues to bomb
the tripe out of Lebanon, which is right next door Albaniz.
He says, the Israeli strikes have to stop as well

(19:13):
if there's to be any open of a ceasefire actually
being I suppose honored in the Middle East. I mean
it's such a complex area, right, I mean, the Greens
are saying stop at Australia has to cut all ties
with quote the bloodthirsty warmongers of Trump and Nett Yahoo.
No way known that's going to happen. I mean, Israel

(19:35):
and Australia are good friends, have been for a very
long time. And don't forget America is Australia's principal defense partner,
if you like, although it's very much a junior role
for Australia in that partnership. In the meantime, Albanese's after
Singapore today for talks designed to secure ongoing supplies of
diesel and petrol. Singapore is the single biggest supplier, although

(19:58):
a lot of various fuel products come from Malaysia and
from Korea. Now, energy experts here are saying today heather
than any deal to source these supplies through April and
into May and perhaps beyond. It's completely contingent on supplies
of crude oil leaving the Middle East, and it's going

(20:19):
to be weeks even months to get those supplies back
to anything like pre war levels even I mean, you know,
the experts are saying, even if the straight up hor
Moves was open tomorrow and oil began flowing freely through,
it would be weeks and weeks before anything like normal
supplies were restored. And don't forget Albanez, he isn't the
only national leader going around hands and knees and begging

(20:41):
bowl out saying can we please have some crude oil
refine for our benefits? So look, it's a mess and
getting worth by the day, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah, well yeah, certainly not getting bitter by the day
by the looks of things. What happened with a hammer
attack in the hospital.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
This is crazy stuff and we don't know a whole lot.
We'll know more as we go to whar I'm not
sure if this woman has appeared in court, but here
is the story in brief, Royal Prince Alfred Hospital, just
off Paramounta Road. It's in many ways it's Sydney's busiest
possibly Australia's busiest hospital, a very big teaching hospital. Now

(21:17):
a fellow is in there for quite some time. We
now know exactly how long. He is sixty three years old.
And just after midnight this morning, a forty six year
old woman rocks up to the nursing staff and calmly
asks to cold she go and see this patient who
is a relative. And she was admitted at quarter past midnight.

(21:39):
So that's one big question. Now the sixty three year
olds in there, it's a ward of four beds. This
woman's allegedly walked in and gone bang and hit the
guy on the head with a hammer. Now police inquiries,
so as I say, we're going to know more in court.
But this woman told the staff that she was related
and that's why she was led in the pellow himself

(22:02):
is now on life support and intensive care and she's
been charged with causing grievous bodily harm.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
And then how's Arthur Freeman going well?

Speaker 5 (22:12):
Arthur Freeman is a bad, bad man. He threw his
little girl off the Westgate Bridge in Melbourne and he
is serving thirty two years minimum sentence, a life sentence
with thirty two years non parole. Now he is down
at Barwan Prison south of Melbourne near Geelong, and he
reportedly was bashed by other inmates and you know that

(22:33):
obviously prisoners don't like people who hurt or abuse children.
That was laid. It downgraded to simply a verbal stout
between between Freeman and inmates. Now. It's the same prison
where the Gangland killer Carl Williams was bashed to death
back in twenty ten. He was hit for a sandwich
press wrapped up in a pillow case by another prisoner

(22:56):
who wanted notoriety. I killed Carl Williams. It's a hell
of a present, the worst, it's the most secure present
in Victoria. It's a tough place.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Well it sounds like it is tough. Mars, thank you
very much, appreciate. It's Murray Old Zossie, correspondent. It's seventeen
away from five. Here the duplessy Ellen struggle to feel
sorry for somebody like Arthur Freem and I listen, there's
an epidemic, apparently we're being warned, an epidemic of sex
stortion which is going on in this country. This has
come after a coroner's released findings this morning of a
teen who took their life and it appears to have

(23:27):
happened after this team was sex storted. So net safe
is going to be us after five and just I
guess the question is, you know, how do you keep
how do you keep your young ones safe? This kind
of stuff is going on, So that's after five. Do
you remember Lauren Southern? Do you remember Lauraen Southern? This
would have been eight years ago, twenty eighteen, huge controversy.
Back then, she and a chap called Stefan Mullin YOUU

(23:49):
came to New Zealand. They were olt writers, alt right speakers,
and they remember their venues were canceled and I think
it was Phil Goff who did that back in twenty eighteen. Anyway,
mayor of Auckland at the time. And then Paddy Gal
did an interview with them and they smashed him in
the interview in terms of their arguments, and he then
apologized for not being prepp blah blah blah. The whole
thing turned into an absolute dog's breakfast. Anyway. Lauren Southern

(24:09):
has been completely on the download for years. She's just
given her first mainstream media interview to The Times since
releasing her book. In the Memoir, so it's a memoir obviously.
In it, she claims that she was sexually assaulted to
the worst degree and I'm kind of just, you know,
I'm trying to keep it a bit down on the
download for young years, but because they'll be in the car.

(24:30):
But she claims basically he had a crack at her
and went through with it reckon. She she got put
in touch with Andrew Tait and his brother by Tommy
Robinson back in twenty eighteen, same year that she came here.
They flew her to Bucharest for a meeting about investing
in a big media project involving her. They took her
to a steakhouse, then a club, got a bit boozed
on a couple of drinks, was surprisingly drunk from it,

(24:50):
she said, went back to Andrew Tate's house and then
he took advantage of her anyway. After that, she disappeared
for years, went offline to recover. Then she reinvented herself
as a trad wife because she got married to an
Ossie guy, moved to Ozzie, had her son, turned that
into a social media thing. They then got divorced. The
media turned on her, so she went quiet again, moved
to Canada with her son as raising and then is

(25:11):
basically off the internet now. But now she's popped up
with her memoir an interview on that, so there you go.
She's sort of I Spider strikes me as someone who
I don't know, I just get the feeling. Is constantly reinventing.
So previously was alt writer, then was a trad wife,
and now is just a normal person and is monetizing
it at every turn.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Quarters of five politics was centric credit, check your customers
and get payments certainty there's.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
A suggestion today in the media that our new favorite
coffee coffee in this country is no longer the flat white.
It's the the iced coffee for the young ones. It's
very Americans. So we have a chat to Flat Flight
Coffee about that for half an hour time. It's thirteen
away from five and Barries Soper, Senior Political Correspondence with US. Hello, Varry,
Good afternoon, Heather. Okay, So Caroline Leavitt is doing what
was always going to be done, which was to tell

(25:56):
the Iranians, of course, we're going to have to not
accept all of your team points.

Speaker 9 (26:01):
Well, it was incredible, wasn't it, Because we're all rather
excited yesterday when the cease fire was an outstall Taco
Trump did it, and you know, the ceasefire was violated
within ours of and tension certainty remains in the Middle East,
the Strait of Hormers that was reportedly closed again after

(26:23):
Israel attack Lebanon. Now we learned that Netanyo isn't bound
by any cease fire, so he can continue to bomb Lebanon,
although he's I think he's come to a private agreement
with Trump. Israel has also previously said that Lebanon isn't included,
so there's a problem there. The Iran backed militant militant

(26:47):
group Izbollah said it had fired rockets towards in Israel
in response to the violation of the seas fire. And
it goes on. So the twenty eight year old old
White House Press Secretary Carolyn Livet, she brought us up
to date with the way things stand today.

Speaker 12 (27:06):
What they're saying publicly is different. Privately, we have seen
an uptick of traffic in the strait today, and I
will reiterate the President's expectation and demand that the Strait
of Her Moose is reopened immediately, quickly and safely. That
is his expectation. It has been relayed to him privately
that that is what's taking place in these reports publicly

(27:26):
are false. I think it was a very very strong
threat from the President of the United States that led
the Iranian regime to cave to their knees and ask
for a ceasefire and agree to reopening the Strait of
Her Moose. So it was a very strong threat that
led to results. At the insinuation by anyone in this
room that Iran somehow has the moral high ground over
the United States of America is insulting. The Iranians originally

(27:49):
put forward a ten point plan that was fundamentally unserious, unacceptable,
and completely discarded. It was literally thrown in the garbage
by President Trump and his negotiating team. Many outlets in
this room have falsely reported on that plan as being
acceptable to the United States, and that is false.

Speaker 9 (28:08):
You refer to that ten point plan yesterday, didn't you
hear that? Yeah, but you did say it was rubbish
because I never accept.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Because I mean, who would say that it was like that?
That's not accepted.

Speaker 9 (28:19):
But I'll tell you there was. She got a lot
of feedback during that press conference because clearly a lot
of a lot of people that were at the conference,
and it's a very large press conference. I've been in
that room in the White House, and you know, people
were I think quite concerned about the wiping out of civilization,

(28:41):
you know, by Trump when he said that it was
so unpresidential and so Unamerican on that. Well, you know,
there's got to be some criticism of a comment like that.
Even our own Prime minister.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Trust talk to me, even though, move on, talk to
me about the National Parts Comm's advice what do you
make of this? Oh, we definitely it.

Speaker 9 (29:04):
Was in the old make Can Slater that I obviously
had a leak of this. Basically, I mean I understand
this well. You basically write like all New Zealanders speak
straight up, honest and human, embrace modern, multicultural, the nation,
multicultural nation that we live in, and read it aloud.

(29:28):
If it sounds false or forced, then change it. In fact,
that's why my voice is always husky before I come
into this studio headed because I'm reading it aloud everything
that I say, and unfortunately, well I always get it right.
Of course, you've got to keep it plain, and that's
a good example of what I do. It use everyday

(29:49):
language with no unnecessary jargon, and you show humanity and
that's something that maybe Donald Trump could take on board.
You use a conversational, friendly tone that's approachable. Now, that's
just some of the advice that the national MP's have got.

(30:09):
So from here on in you're going to hear a
very well rehearsed and well behaved bunch of people.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
I'll run you through some of the examples they've given
this advice which might tackle your fancy eight away from five.
Thank you, very very so mis senior political correspondent.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 14 (30:29):
Tash right on hold that wasn't really the news, of course,
inflation and the June courter looks to be peaking at
four point two, and that dense growth was their bank governor.
Doctor Anna Breman is with us. If this ceasefire is contained,
if we take the optimistic view, how different do you
think the world looks in my Phoenix meeting.

Speaker 10 (30:45):
I still think the world looks different, Jim.

Speaker 15 (30:46):
And this is a severe supply disruption.

Speaker 10 (30:49):
It's not just oil.

Speaker 14 (30:50):
The inflation spike that you see coming. If once again
this model works, does it disappear as quickly?

Speaker 10 (30:55):
I think that we will see some effects being on
for a while.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
But I do think we can see nay can the
inflation calling.

Speaker 14 (31:01):
Again back tomorrow at six am the mic hosking Breakfast
with Maybe's real Estate News talk z B.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
All right, it's five away from five. So here are
some of the examples. When the National Party Center's Internal
Comm's memo out Here are some of the examples that
they gave. They said, reflect diversity, naturally use words like Farno,
al suwa, and gord Itel. So here are some examples.
New Plymouth Morning Tea should become Coppa in New Plymouth,

(31:28):
Community Meet and Climate and Conservation Your Voice Matters should
instead become Community Hooey, Climate and Conservation Your Voice Matters. Second,
ash Burton Bridge under Development should become Second ash Burton
Bridge in the Works ensuring the foundations for better traffic infrastructure,
and Canterbury should become keeping the cantabs moving. Now they're

(31:51):
not wrong, They're right, aren't they? That works a lot better,
Like I would definitely be more interested in the Kappa
in New Plymouth than a morning a New Plymuth Warning Tea.
But I think where they But even though they're right,
like seeing the seeing the sausage being made does feel
somewhat try hard, so I feel bad that it's been leaked.
But also I think they're really off the mark, by

(32:13):
the way, with encouraging the use of things like hoe
Farno called it all like for a lot of people
that doesn't matter, it's just how they talk, especially if
they're in the Wellington Public Service where I think that
this advice has probably come from or some gray Lynn
person in Auckland. But I think there are a lot
of people out there in rural New Zealand and in
middle New Zealand who hear that, like the the littering

(32:37):
of mild of trel Maari through the English language, and
it really winds them up, and especially when they see
the Internal Comm's advice where National is quite clearly trying
to be virtuous by doing it. Anyway, on that subject,
cam Slator worth While I don't go on Twitter, Sam
the producer does loves the cam Slater Twitter account, which

(32:58):
is remarkable if you know Sam the produce doesn't strike
anyone as a follower of Campslater. But anyway, camp Slater
is clearly being used to leak information from out from
inside the National Party to keep an eye on that
or after the Middle East next find out what's going
on with a ceasfire.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
It's Heather Duper Clan drive with One New Zealand to
coverage like no one else New Stalks evy.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Afternoon a little over twenty four hours into the ceasefire
and it's all looking a little precarious. Iran has shut
the Strait of Humus, saying it will only reopen when
the attacks on Lebanon end. Israel, though, says it's attack
on Lebanon are not covered by the ceasefire, and Trump
has just said on social media that troops will remain
in the Middle East until Iran complies. Linda Gradstein is

(34:00):
a CBS Middle East correspondent in Jerusalem and with US
right now HIGHLANDA, Hi, good morning. How would you describe
the state of vermisfile.

Speaker 16 (34:09):
Well, it's it's very precarious, and it's it's really very unclear.
For example, is Lebanon included. That's a very big question.
Israel has been fighting on two fronts for the last
five weeks, first of all against Iran and then against
Iran's patron in Lebanon, his Isabella, and has so far
been unable to deliver a knockout blow to either of them.

(34:29):
Very similar in a way to what's happened in Gaza,
where there's also this kind of precarious ceasefire with Israel
remaining in control of half of Gaza.

Speaker 17 (34:38):
So you know, Israel completely reopened today.

Speaker 16 (34:40):
Schools reopened after five weeks, although a lot of parents
did not send their kids. They say they're just not
confident that the ceasefire is really taking hold schools and
in the north of Israel, from Haypha northwards, schools are
still on zoom. But so I think on one hand,
there's this relief that you know, last night was the
first night without rocket at time since the fighting began.

Speaker 17 (35:02):
But I think there's also a lot of suspicion.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Do you think, I mean, it sounds like Israel has
agreed that it will somehow curtile what it is doing
in Lebanon, So it does seem to be wanting to help.
Is that you'll read on it?

Speaker 17 (35:16):
That is my read, except that it's not clear a
what Kurtail means.

Speaker 16 (35:21):
Yesterday there were widespread Israeli attacks across Lebanon that killed
almost two hundred people, most of them apparently his Belah members.
But you know, Israel's now been fighting his Belah over
and over again and has not been able to sort
of finish it. So it's not clear what Kurtail means.
And I think from Israel's point of view, you know,

(35:41):
the one person running all this is not the Israeli
Prime Minister, it's President Trump. So basically President Trump said
to Israel, I'm imposing a ceasefire from everything that I've
been able to find out, Prime Minister Nitanya, who said, no,
please don't yet, give us a little more time, and
Trump sort of ignored his request and said, nope, I
decided it's.

Speaker 17 (36:01):
Time for a ceasefire. It's time for a ceasefire.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Is the straight off Homer's open or not?

Speaker 17 (36:07):
No? Right right now? It is not open.

Speaker 16 (36:08):
It was open, and apparently the Iranians published a map
showing where the mines were to enable ships to go around.
First of all, it was always open. It was just
that Iran was choosing who could go through and who couldn't.
My understanding is that it's not open now, and you
know that has been one of the goal according to both,
you know, especially according to President Trump. So from Israel's perspective,

(36:32):
they're more concerned about the enriched uranium. And Nitagna, who said,
you know, we are sure that the not have the
enriched uranium, whether by war or by negotiations.

Speaker 17 (36:43):
I'm not sure that that.

Speaker 16 (36:45):
And I'm not sure basically that the US goals and
the Israeli goals are fact same right now.

Speaker 17 (36:50):
They might have been at the beginning.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Okay, Now, the ten point plan that Iran has submitted
to the This is just not going to happen, right,
some of the stuff and that is just so ludicrous
to the US. It's not going to happen. So how
does this play out over the next two weeks?

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Right?

Speaker 17 (37:03):
Well, so that's the question.

Speaker 16 (37:04):
I mean, the question is whether these negotiations are really
going to be serious? Are they just going to be
we break and that you know some many are hoping
is that, you know, the ceasefire kind of takes on
a life of its own and it holds. And that's
you know, what we've seen in Gaza, even though there

(37:25):
is still fighting in Gaza and Palestinians you know, are
getting killed every day, but there's more or less a ceasefire.
Israel in control of half of Gaza, Amas in control
of the other half.

Speaker 17 (37:36):
So the question is is Iran really serious about an agreement?

Speaker 16 (37:40):
I mean, before this war started, apparently Iran was serious
about a nuclear agreement.

Speaker 17 (37:45):
The Iranian economy is in shambles.

Speaker 16 (37:47):
The damage that the US and Israeli bombing have done
to Iran is stupendous.

Speaker 17 (37:53):
I mean, Iran's a huge country, but you know, there's
widespread destruction.

Speaker 16 (37:57):
So, you know, does Iran say Okay, I really want
a nuclear deal, which they've assigned in the past. I
mean it was the Americans that pulled out of the deal,
or do they say now I am you know.

Speaker 17 (38:09):
It's also not even clear really who's in charge.

Speaker 16 (38:11):
Is the leadership currently in charge more hardline than the
previous leadership or less.

Speaker 17 (38:16):
Hard line much?

Speaker 16 (38:17):
Taba Kameni, the son of the assassinated head of you
Ran is apparently in not a very good physical condition.
He was also wounded in the attacks. So I think
it's not even clear who's running you run, So it's
just impossible to now.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, Linda, it has been wonderful to talk to your
great Thank you so much. Linda Gradstein, CBS Middle East
correspond on twelf past five Forgive Do to c Ellen
METSAFE is warning us that we are facing an epidemic
of sex stortion in this country now. The warning comes
after the release of a coroner's report that has revealed
that a South Island teenager took his own life just
hours after scammers threatened to leak his intimate images. Netsafe's

(38:54):
chief online safety officer, Sean Lyons is with us Hi
Sean hi Er, well, thank you. How often is this happening.

Speaker 18 (39:02):
It's hard to say. Across the country. We know from
what we are reported. You know, we see somewhere doing
seven and ten reports of this kind of thing each day.
So and because of the kind of shame and embarrassment
that goes with this particular type of harm, we imagine
that's probably quite widely underreported.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Okay, so these guys are doing it for financial gain,
are they?

Speaker 5 (39:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (39:26):
Largely for financial gain. That there are those that are
doing it for the gain of more material, more content.
So there are some where the payoff might be to
produce another image or another video, but there is a
large amount of that is direct financial gain.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
And tell me if I'm naive and maybe just old fashioned,
but it seems to me the only way to avoid
this is not to put your nerudy pictures on the
internet in any way.

Speaker 18 (39:51):
That is one kind of score of thought. But I
think increasingly as we see what technology can do in
terms of the production of high quality image and video,
then then even that to some extent becomes less of
a defense. I mean, you're totally right. If there was
never an image of you in theory, that can never
be an actual image of you shared but if there's

(40:12):
a picture of you in any other circumstances, somebody is
choosing to manipulate that image and turn it into something
that might cause you some harm, then then that's a
possibility that faces individuals too.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
So about that, Sean, don't we if that's what's going
to happen, If they're going to take you know, I
don't know, let's use me as an example to take
my face and create some porn with that. There's nothing
I can do. I just have to live with it,
don't I.

Speaker 18 (40:35):
What we can do is is not be party to
what it is that they're trying to do. What we
really need to do is make sure that individuals don't
feel so shamed and embarrassed that they go along with
what it is that that the scammers are asking them
to do, that we don't allow that degree of manipulation
to go on, that we don't allow their extra harm
to carry on for people. And a lot of that

(40:56):
about making sure we talk about the shame and embarrassment
that goes with it.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
And who are worried about their kids getting caught up
in the stuff in the age of AI and social media,
what do the parents say to.

Speaker 18 (41:05):
The kids right now, go to them and tell them
that if this, if they do get caught up in this,
that they understand what's happening, that it can happen for
multiple reasons, and the last thing in the world they
need to do is try and hide it and deal
with it on their own. That their parents are there,
they understand, they get it, that they shouldn't be embarrassed,
and they're going to help them to deal with it
because it.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
Is that shame.

Speaker 18 (41:24):
It is that that horror that bears down on many
young people and.

Speaker 5 (41:28):
People older people too. If this happens to.

Speaker 18 (41:31):
People of all ages, but specifically the young and their vulnerability.
Making sure that they know that they've got somewhere to
go and nobody is going to question them, no one's
to judge them for what they've done.

Speaker 5 (41:41):
They're just going to.

Speaker 18 (41:42):
Help them to deal with them.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Just very good parenting advice, full stop, I think Sean,
thank you very much. Sean Lyon's net Safe chief online
safety officer. Right, the most of the most unreliable cars
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say quart a past sheiz I tell you what I'm
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(42:05):
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(42:27):
Now you can do it up to one hundred ks
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(42:50):
Now now BYD has got a vehicle for everyone seriously
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from the pump bid. Also dot co dot NZ. Ever,
so apparently the flat white is over nineteen past five
and the iced coffee is in. This is apparently the
American influence taking hold in this country. Richard Corney is
the co founder and the managing director of Flight Coffee

(43:11):
and is with us Hi Richard Jorda Heather has a game.
Well thanks mate, you've seeing this, You've seen the old
iced coffee taking off.

Speaker 19 (43:18):
Yeah, absolutely, it's been gradually growing well probably over the
last ten years. Really a cafe in Wellington about thirteen
fifteen percent of our beverage sales cold or iced beverages.

Speaker 18 (43:31):
But you're also seeing.

Speaker 19 (43:34):
A really big rise in the likes of chilled RTD
coffee is ready to drink coffees right, so like Suntry
Boss and about twenty nineteen, the market in New Zealand
for RTDs was pretty much non existent. They came in.
I don't have steps off to my head what it
is in terms of value now, but you've definitely seen
a big consumer shift in how Yeah, coffee's been consumed,

(43:57):
mainly led by Jean Ze but also people just wanting,
you know, something different.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Now I can understand the iced coffee because the young
people in the office were telling me it's more it's instagrammable.
But I don't get why are you drinking a coffee
and a can?

Speaker 19 (44:12):
Well, that's it's to their own really, I suppose it's
the inconvenience fact. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, absolutely, it's the convenience.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
You can't have time. If you don't have time, Richard,
to stop and go to a coffee shop, will make
one yourself. How many are you smashing in a day?

Speaker 19 (44:25):
Well, oh, you have to ask, you have to ask
the trades that one.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
But yeah, like.

Speaker 19 (44:32):
It's a it's a massive growing market, you know. For
us we have a range of five or six ECUs
of RTDs and and yeah, that's a that's a growing
channel for us.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
So it's how's business going for you guys?

Speaker 4 (44:45):
Is it right?

Speaker 2 (44:45):
At the minute?

Speaker 19 (44:47):
Business is challenging. Coffee is hard right now. Coffee industries
and cafes and hospitality too as well as is still
facing some pretty extreme cost pressures from a really high
commodity co market. And we're sort of we're sitting in
this space for the rest of the year. Really, we
just got to just got to trade through it somehow.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Yeah, so if we want to come in and help
you out, we've got to buy a coffee and or
something else, don't we Yes, yes, please, good to know. Hey,
thank you very much, Richard. Best of luck with that.
Richie Corney, co founder managing director of Flight Coffee. They
do a mean cup of coffee.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
Right.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
We'll get you through consumers most unreliable cars in just
a minute. But also let's talk about Trump and the
Iran war five twenty two.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
Cutting through the noise to get the facts.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
It's Heather duplicyl and drive with one Zealand coverage Like
no one else news talks, there'd be Heather.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
The more AI sextortion there is, the easier it is
for genuine cases to be ignored. Who's to know it
isn't AI anyway? I mean this is a fair point,
do you know? I was thinking about it nowadays? If
you if like, if literally actual sexy images of you
somehow find it on the internet, you can just say
it's AI and go. Actually, me and a lot of
us will believe it. Five twenty five now, yesterday, at

(46:00):
this time a text came in accusing me of essentially
being too tolerant of Donald Trump's borish language, which is fair,
I am. I just don't take him literally so he
can't raise my eye. I would like to counter that
text by arguing that too many people are allowing their
disdain of Donald Trump to cloud their view of what
Trump has actually managed to achieve in the six week
bombing campaign in Iran. Almost everywhere I look, this is

(46:24):
being painted as a victory for Iran and a loss
for Trump, which maybe on the yeah, okay, on the
metric of holding the Strait of Hall Moo's closed shore,
that is an absolute victory to Iran.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
There.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
They've proved that they can shut that oil route down.
That's certainly going to make future administrations think twice before
provoking for at least a while, at least until the
Gulf States build and established their alternative routes to avoid
the strait, which is already happening. But Donald Trump has
managed to notch up some enormous wins in the bombing campaign.
He has smashed the Iranian military, he has smashed the navy,

(46:55):
he has smashed their missile capabilities. He's assassinated key leadership,
including harmony and the spy boss of the Revolutionary Guards.
And what that does is that will send the message
to the Iranian people that these people can be taken out.
It shatters the illusion of permanence, and smashing the military
in the way that he has has set them back
by years. But most importantly, I think he surely must

(47:17):
have put the frighteners up the Iranians if they even
consider starting up the uranium and Richmond program again. Surely
a couple of rounds of bombing this year and last
years is actually more of a deterrent than anything that
was written down on a piece of paper beforehand. Donald
Trump's war has cost an estimated three and a half
thousand lives, which obviously our lives would rather not lose.
But put that in perspective when you think about how

(47:39):
many people the Iranians killed, the regime killed in January,
it was more than ten times. That Donald Trump, yes,
has broken world runs rules. So has Irun for the
last fifty years. Donald Trump, yes, has threatened to wipe
out a country. So has Iran for the last fifty
years been threatening to wipe out the US and Israel.
Now we don't have to like Donald Trump We don't

(48:00):
have to like what he's done, and we don't have
to appreciate the impacts that it's had on our lives,
even this far away. But we shouldn't let that cloud
our clarity that he is not the enemy to the west.
Here Iranas and Iran is by no means an outright
victor here.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Ever, do for ce allen right here you go.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
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(48:38):
the forward escape is essentially being pulled from the New
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that Fords tend to have a lot of engine, transmission
and electrical issues. Several owners told us about major transmission
repairs they've had to have done to their forwards. One
even said I would never buy a Ford again. That's

(49:00):
an indictment, isn't.

Speaker 20 (49:01):
It ill tell you what hither?

Speaker 21 (49:02):
I was surprised not to hear jeep come up there
because I've given you so much crap about having a
jeep and how they're rubbish. But clearly I'm wrong, and
that's say something else. I apologize.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
My jeep doesn't give me any o seals none, none, whatsoever,
and I barely drive it, which should should actually give
me lots of this seals. Anyway, we'll talk to consumer next.

Speaker 22 (49:18):
Use it next.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Hard questions strong opinion here the duplicyl and drive with
one New Zealand tand of power of satellite mobile news
doorgsa'd be?

Speaker 2 (49:38):
If Trump has smashed the Iranian military, how come the
straight up hor mos are still closed? Well, okay, because
you don't need a military to shut it. You literally
need one drone, one drone, one mine, one speedboat, anything
like that. This is why everybody keeps using the words
the word asymmetrical, because it's not. It's not the same same, right,
It's you don't need a lot. You just need to
freak people out with one drone that that blows up

(50:00):
a ship or one speed boat that blows up a ship.
And then the thing is shut because the fear is
what shuts it. Listen, I'll tell you what. The farmers
are a bit worried. They reckon, they're running about, they're
running out of diesel and they are now in fact
run out of diesel and now two or three weeks
behind supplies, like as in that they need that much
supply to be delivered. We'll have a chet Confederated farmers
after six o'folog just find out what is going on here,

(50:21):
because we have enough in the country. So why isn't
it getting to them? And the huddle standing by twenty
three away from six? Now Thoughts and prayers obviously to
Ford Escape owners because they are the most unreliable cars,
according to a list put out by Consumer New Zealand.
Brian wall is a product test journalist at Consumer who
wrote this list and is with us. Hi Brian, Hi, there,

(50:42):
what's the problem with the fold Escape Why they break
down so often?

Speaker 4 (50:46):
Oh?

Speaker 23 (50:47):
That would be down to engine transmission and electrical issues
from what we've found in our survey.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yeah, okay, so.

Speaker 23 (50:55):
Repairs.

Speaker 20 (50:56):
What does that mean, Brian?

Speaker 23 (50:59):
What it means the cars were off road for probably
an extended period of time because the engine wasn't working,
or the gearbox has failed, or there's an electrical problem.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
And does this would because I mean, this kind of
stuff happens for cars eventually, right they get old and
I'm assuming the transmission breaks down at some point. Is
this happening when the cars are still relatively new and
you wouldn't expect it?

Speaker 23 (51:19):
Well, the survey looks at a range of vehicles over
you know, ten fifteen years, so it's difficult to say
that a new car is going to be less rival
than an old or vice versa. But generally refining with
the fod escapes, they're going to end up with major
issues eventually, which are going to cost a lot of
money to repair.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
VWT one. What's the problem there?

Speaker 23 (51:42):
Let me just check my results here. We've I think
we found like half of Tiguan owners experienced a fault
during their ownership and a quarter experienced a major fault.
I mean that's a fault, like we say, where the
vehicle's got to be off road. And part of the
issue with the European car is generally that the parts
are more expensive, so you know, it's people aren't as

(52:04):
satisfied with their vehicles because it's not, it's a much
more expensive card to repair.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Have you put out a list of the most reliable cars?

Speaker 23 (52:12):
We do have a list of reliable as well.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Yes, what's the top of that list then, Brian, Well.

Speaker 23 (52:17):
The top are some Toyotas. We've got the CHR and
the Rev four. So the vehicles we see a lot
of on the roads and people are very very happy
with them, and they seem to be very reliable. So yeah,
go for a Toyota, Okay?

Speaker 17 (52:29):
Can I like?

Speaker 2 (52:30):
I know that this is I'm going to sound snobby
and bearing in mind I know nothing about cars, so
it's all esthetic for me. So have you got anything
on your list of most reliable cars that's actually quite cool?

Speaker 4 (52:41):
Oh?

Speaker 23 (52:41):
I think that's beauty is in the eye of the holder,
isn't it really? I mean because we can.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Take the Red four off the list of cool cars though,
can't we?

Speaker 5 (52:48):
Right?

Speaker 23 (52:49):
Yeah, I'd probably agree with you on that. I don't
even like the look of the CHR. Do you like
the Corolla? Because the Corolla is up there? You know
it's good look in the little car?

Speaker 2 (52:57):
But can you do any better?

Speaker 23 (53:02):
If you want to go for an EV We've got
the MG fours up there. At the moment, we're having
quite high reliabilities. It's quite a stylish looking vehicle and
relatively cheap compared to a lot of other evs at
the moment. But it's early days with evs as to
whether they're going to remain reliable in the long term,
because you know, quite a lot of these manufacturers haven't
actually been on the market for for that many years.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Good point that you make, Brian. It's wonderful to talk
to you. Thank you for that, MG four Brian Wall Consumer,
New Zealand Report author twenty away from.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
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Speaker 2 (53:36):
The Huddle of us. This evening, we have Liam Here, lawyer,
former national former National Party activist or current National Party.

Speaker 15 (53:41):
Act current Party member, current member The.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Activist sounds rabid, doesn't it? Oscar currently artist and local
government politician.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
Hello, let's hello Liam?

Speaker 2 (53:52):
All right Liam? Worst car you've owned.

Speaker 15 (53:55):
I've bought an Audi A four under a lot of
pressure from French and that was the biggest sake of
my life. Like it was a good it was I
got a good price and it was it was fun
to drive. But after about a month, you know, just
the electrical work that was constantly required, and it just
made me realize, you know, it was a fun car
to have that I couldn't commit to the lifestyle of

(54:17):
owning a European car. And it's just been toyotas ever since.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
I tell you what, I'm impressed. Not a raffle thoughly
I'm surely no, no.

Speaker 15 (54:25):
But not nothing very cool. I'm driving a little toe
to aqua at the moment, but I'm quite pleased we're
having hybrid now. I have to say it's been good
in the last couple of months.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
You have really gone from one extreme to the other. Okay,
ask you what about you? What's your worst car?

Speaker 10 (54:39):
Well, I need your thoughts and prayers here that because
I actually currently have the number two car on that list,
which is and I can confirm all the things that
those disgruntled owners have said about it having a tigwine
and boy do I feel think right now I feel
like I have to trade it now after hearing an
interview with Brian No.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
How long have you had it?

Speaker 10 (55:02):
I've had it five years. I got the same year
my son was born, so I could remember how old
he was and even in the five years.

Speaker 5 (55:11):
You know. And it's true.

Speaker 10 (55:12):
It's not mechanical thing, it's not really And it's annoying
things like electrical things like the like the electronic parking
break won't work and that's a thousand dollars just for
them to look at it and replace. So yeah, it's
some sobering stuff.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Here you go, MG four, that's what you want to get.
Don't get a Toyota aqua like Liam, because you still
live in Ponsonby, so you still have to be taught.
He can get away with it and parent.

Speaker 10 (55:38):
Now, Lia, if I ever go and do ubering though,
it would be good, it.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
Would be a good That is true.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
That is true.

Speaker 24 (55:43):
Liam.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Do you reckon the sea spy with Iran's going to hold?

Speaker 15 (55:47):
I think there's there's maximum incentive for everyone for it
to hold. If you like, I thought you were really
on the mark just after the break.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
You know.

Speaker 15 (55:56):
The fact of the matter is is that Iran was
I mean, you can talk about Iran being defiant and everything,
but they were completely mauled in the military confrontation. I mean,
they've got a smaller navy than New Zealanders now, but
it doesn't take a lot to close the straight To
stop that from happening, Trump have to invade the southern
southern coast of Iran, which he doesn't want to do.

(56:18):
But they also don't have any incentive in having more
of their leaders killed and their forces degraded even further.
So everyone's got an incentive for it to work. And
there anything that's going to sort of unravel that is
the is the sort of the taunting of each other
or the humiliation or the loss of faith. And what
worries me a little bit is that both parties seem

(56:39):
quite willing to continue to try to claim victory, to
try to back the other into a corner. And you
might think, okay, well, in the normal course of events,
you know a strategic interests will prevail. But with the
current president of the United States, so just don't have
the confidence that they can't be goaded or taunted into
having another go with it.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Yeah, yeah, we see, Okay. I think that's a fair
point that Liam has made the oscar. I think the
more likely outcome actually is what Linda, who was with
us before Linda Gradstein laid out, which is that there
is no agreement to anything after the seaspire. The seaspire
just rolls over and becomes permanent, so no one has
to back down.

Speaker 10 (57:17):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I agree with Liam in terms
of that, there's a powerful motivation. The interesting thing is
that this kind of global crisis is the first kind
of major wile there's been others, but I mean it's
the first real, huge one in the social media era.
So everybody's getting everyone, including us as an audience, you know,

(57:38):
as punters around the world who are affected by this
are getting a glimpse into everybody's inner mind. And the
more you see that, the more you think this isn't
going to be over quickly. I even allowed myself a
moment of feeling good about a feeling sheepish about being
so freaked out about how long this would go on for.

Speaker 5 (57:58):
But I mean the and it really.

Speaker 10 (58:00):
Lasted twelve hours, And if there was just two parties,
it might be simple about these three, And there's a
whole lot of others around it, so I don't Unfortunately,
I think the pain will be with us for the year.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
What was that limb?

Speaker 15 (58:16):
It's pitimistic and theist really are very really disappointed.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Yeah, it's a good way to be You're right, we'll
take a break. Come back to you, guys. Shortly called
a Zoo.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty, a name
you can trust locally and globally.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Right back with the Huddle, Liam here, Oscar, kindly, Oscar,
did you go and read the revelation about Justina's transcript
the Behind closed Doors interview with the Royal Commission.

Speaker 25 (58:45):
No, I haven't delved into a year.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
I'm not sure I will.

Speaker 25 (58:50):
I mean, it's I guess it's a useful exercise, but
I don't know.

Speaker 15 (58:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (58:55):
I guess what's the.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Feeling that comes out of it.

Speaker 10 (59:00):
I guess.

Speaker 25 (59:01):
I mean, I don't kind of understand the outcome that thereafter,
unless it's that we do things better the next time.
A lot of it seems to be kind of raking
over the calls, and I'd rather just wait till it's
all over and then we see the overall thing that's
come out. But it just feels a bit voyeuristic and
uncomfortable if I watch it at the moment.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Okay, what about you, leam.

Speaker 15 (59:24):
Look, I kind of think it is unusual in a
way that we continue to have just into adourn in
the headlines like getting quite a bit of time now
after she's left office, and it's almost sort of comes
into the fact that actually, and it is also very
unusual that we've basically got a former prime minister who's

(59:45):
had to live in foreign exile almost almost since she's
left office, and we have this ongoing fascination with her
that we don't apply to other former prime ministers. Now,
the reasons why you think that it might be that
they probably tell you as much about about your own
political opinions is the effect of the matter. But I
think what's happened is, you know, Cinda Adourn was she

(01:00:09):
she was a prime minister during some extraordinary times, but
she was also as leader of the opposition and as
prime minister as much of a symbol or she was
a politician as a symbol more than she was a
politician of policies. And while while everyone's got consensus about
what that you know what that symbol is, and if
she's symbolizing a good thing, that would be pretty fun.

(01:00:31):
But you know, the moment that things start to sour
and people don't tend to look in what she's symbolizing
with so benignly, it becomes really really toxic, and I
don't think you can avoid that. So I haven't read
the transcript because I kind of want to move past
this era of New Zealand politics and to start to
see Cindra a dune as I see John Key or

(01:00:54):
Having Clark. But we can't seem to get away from it.
We seem to get away from her.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
I don't think we will never see her in the
way that we see John Key or Helen Clark, because
John Key and Helen Clark were running the country in
relatively benign times when incremental policies were that incrementalism was
the order of the day, and we were largely in agreement. Right,
So I think that she will forever be a firebrand.

Speaker 18 (01:01:18):
Don't you think.

Speaker 15 (01:01:19):
Well, I mean, I mean it wasn't all easy. I mean,
the Christian earthquake was a pretty big deal for the country,
but it didn't pose the same I suppose the moment
where everyone was booed into politics, I guess.

Speaker 20 (01:01:31):
And also the other thing is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Neither of them have gone on to be global superstars
to the extent that she has, right Like the Netflix documentary.
The documentary just hit Netflix and people are watching and
talking about it. Does not happen to John Key or
Helen Clark.

Speaker 15 (01:01:45):
Yeah, and I guess that's true, And there are part
of the results that she can't even live in her
own country really were for fear of being mobbed all
the time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Hey, listen, in total change of subject here, Oscar, what
is your go to coffee? Is it still the flat white?
Are you getting down with what the kids are doing?

Speaker 22 (01:02:02):
No?

Speaker 25 (01:02:02):
You know what, as soon as coffee hit seven dollars,
I managed to successfully wean myself off it and only
have it when it's free now. But I guess when
you consider that the traditional New Zealand coffee was always
milking two sugars, I feel like the flat white is
a natural extension of that. So I'm not surprised to
hear that self favorite, our national favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
But what about the iced coffee?

Speaker 25 (01:02:23):
If you tried that, Oscar, No, because I feel like
eventually the ice is going to melt and then all
you've got in the end is a cold, watery coffee
that's going to get warmer. So I feel like we
don't have to we don't have to welcome everything that
America brings out, and I feel like we should stand
strong when it comes to Chris, and.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
I've heard this about you that you paid attention in
science class, so I think top marks for you on
that one. What about you, I'm just I'm gonna be
honest with you, mate. I'm not getting into the iced
coffee because I'm a grown up.

Speaker 15 (01:02:51):
No, yeah, and I'm an uncomplicated man from the provinces, right,
so like I'm also just a flat white drinker because
that's what I know how to order. I think it's
interesting how things are quite you know, things are quite relative.
So probably ordering a flat white at some point along
these Ziellan's history was itself considered to be quite pretentious,
you know, back when we were a key drinking people

(01:03:11):
at first. Now we're family are coffee drinking people. But
you know, as a conservative and as some of the provinces,
I can't. I can only move the what's conventional now,
move beyond what's just the most basic, simple thing to order.
And I'm sure that my kids will probably feel the
same way about the fancier drinks. You know, there'll be
something even fancier again still, but I'm always going to

(01:03:32):
be twenty five years behind the pace.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Oh Liam just said, well said, Well said, mate, Good
good to talk to the pair of you. You enjoy
the rest of your day. That's Liam here and Oscar
can't our Hu away from six It's.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
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Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
We're doing thoughts and prayers, Thoughts and prayers to India
because they're about to start their senses and how many
people have They got to count one point four billion.
We couldn't even count six million in this country and
they're going to count one point four billion.

Speaker 17 (01:04:00):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
I don't know about you. I just I got irrationally
angry with Liam there. I didn't let it show, though,
but when he said we're a country of coffee drinkers,
it made me ready cross, mainly because I I processed
that information really quick. My brain went for and I
was like, oh no, I think he's right. And that
disappoints me greatly because I have as I get older,
I get more and more kind of I get my

(01:04:23):
little colonial vibes out, I get my little like British
vibes out, and I'm really into my tea. I've realized
how much I'm into my tea. I'm smashing like six
cups of tea a day, every day. I wish we
were a country of tea drinkers, but unfortunate we're not. Anyway. Now,
the reason we were talking about Jacinda, if you weren't
across it, was that earlier, earlier on, I told you
at the start of the program. The Herald's written up there.

(01:04:44):
I guess you could call them the highlights of Jacinda's
interview behind closed Doors with the COVID Inquiry. Now, she
didn't do it in public, so all we've got is
the transcript.

Speaker 24 (01:04:51):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
I don't know if this is going to work or not.
I don't know if this is going to work or not.
But what we thought we'd do is if she can't
do it for us to see, we'll get the AI
to do it for So for the following I am
the chair of the I'm going to play the role
of the chair of the COVID Inquiry, Grant Illingworth, Casey
and AI will play you Cinder. So Grant says Jasinder,

(01:05:12):
it would be remiss of me not to put this
question to you. You divided the.

Speaker 26 (01:05:16):
Nation in what regard because if we chose not to
have any of that, there would have been those on
the vaccinated side, who said you took away our freedoms
even though we were vaccinated.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
That's freaky A let's actually bang on. So then Grant says,
you're on the record to Cinda as saying that you
had two primary objectives dealing with COVID. One was to
save as many lives as possible. Tell us about the
other one.

Speaker 26 (01:05:40):
As you've just noted, it was that I wanted to
keep people together. And certainly at the point people were,
of course fraying with the original public health tools, we
had no doubt the loss of freedoms took their toll,
and it was incredibly difficult, but it was particularly difficult
when the tool that we came to rely on was vaccines.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
But just under the pression impression I have is that
on that second point, you feel that you didn't succeed
in achieving your objective.

Speaker 26 (01:06:08):
No, and I've been very clear on that. But I
think the point that I'm trying to impart it was
not without effort. We did not give up on the
idea that we could try and keep people together.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Ah, that was really weird.

Speaker 21 (01:06:23):
That was not just under and that was aially have
to say that because it sounded a lot like.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
It might do that. Do you know what might do
that again for the next person who avoids accountability? Fed
farmers with.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
Us next five, No Brown, what's up? What's down? What
were the major calls? And how will it affect the economy?
The big business questions?

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
On the Business hour we had the duplicy Allen and
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Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Even in coming up in the next hour, it looks
like we're going to get an investigation into Kiwi and
Australian lamb exports to the US. Jammy mchay on that shortly,
Sam Dickey on Kevin Walsh about to start his tenure
and Ender Brady on trump on Pootin rather trolling Keir
Starmer seven past six. Now if some farmers are warning
they are close to running out of diesel because deliveries

(01:07:14):
have slowed down. Importers switched from monthly to weekly shipments
last month to manage supply, but now some farmers are
running dry and having to fill their tanks up at
the petrol station. Carl Dean is Federated Farmer's Dairy Chair
and with US Hey Carl are the right, so run
me through this. How bad is this as a situation.

Speaker 22 (01:07:32):
I wouldn't say it's terrible. It's more the fact that
we're not hearing it going away, So we're always getting
always seems to be one or two people every day
complaining about the fact that they've been two or three
weeks behind in their fuel delivery.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
And what is then explanation for it? Because we've got
heaps of diesel in the country.

Speaker 22 (01:07:52):
Yeah, so most of the explanations that are coming through
are that, you know, because of that change in cycle,
and that was a month ago now, so we would
have thought that the distributors should have probably got that
sort of by now. Obviously there was some people who
have stockpiled fueled potentially in the I don't know who,

(01:08:13):
but certain people would have done so. Again that should
have now filtered through and done its dash. So hopefully
it will resolve itself shortly, but it does seem to
be you know, even if you look on Facebook, there's
always someone saying, oh, twill or three weeks behind, or
just been told it'll still be another two weeks before
I get my petrol or diesel delivery.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
Are any other sectors in the country facing the same problem.

Speaker 20 (01:08:40):
It'd be interesting to know.

Speaker 22 (01:08:41):
To be honest, a lot of other sectors probably just
use service stations. There'd probably only be the agricultural fishing
and a few other sectors that actually have bulk tanks
on land.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Which are the sectors that have bulk tanks.

Speaker 22 (01:08:56):
Well, when you think of fishing, you know, the entire fishing,
A lot of them will have many service stations at
the port.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
I guess yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:09:07):
I would think the army or the defense force would
most likely have their own supply.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Any of them experiencing the same.

Speaker 22 (01:09:17):
I would hope not, because a lot of them will
be probably have large volumes to have this sort of buffer,
whereas farmers normally will have enough supply for a month
or six weeks, and they're fairly reliant on that monthly
or every couple of weeks delivery, depending on the usage.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Right, Carl, Is the market going to sort this out
by itself or does this need some intervention from a
higher power like the government.

Speaker 22 (01:09:45):
I hope that the market sorces itself out. I don't
see there's any reason why it shouldn't sort itself out.
But obviously we're just watching it with an eager eye
to make sure that it does.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Yeah, well, here's hoping. Carl. Thanks very much mate, Good
luck with it. Carl Den, Federated Farmer's Dairy. This is
a little bit off topic, but have you noticed how
many times in the Herald recently there's been a relationship
between a teacher and a student, Not often the teacher
is female. Yes, Lee, thank you for raising this. I
had meant to raise this the other day because I've
actually got these numbers, and then I ran out of time.
I noticed this as well, and I thought, jesz, that's

(01:10:16):
a bit weird, isn't it. So there's a period for
and in fact, I feel like maybe I did raise it. Anyway,
we'll do it again. So for twenty years that the
Herald went back and had a look at what the
teachers teachers have been disciplined for over the last twenty
years November two thousand and five through to June twenty
twenty five. They found that there were one hundred and
twenty five teachers that had relationships with students. Eighty three

(01:10:39):
of them were men and forty two of them were women,
which so it's still skewed towards men being large male
teachers largely The problem here heading on the students, the
female students, but female teachers, I mean, they're holding up
their own in those numbers. Like I was surprised it
was forty two women who got involved with boys anyway, then,
so I asked a few questions about it, and then

(01:10:59):
I was told that is actually that's actually not that unusual.
Like there were lots of stories that were then shared
in the newsroom about Yeah, when I was in year thirteen,
my mate was hooking up with teacher blah blah blah,
apparently female teacher. Like I don't want to besmirch female
teachers and or you know, like most teachers do not

(01:11:19):
get like the vast majority of teachers do not get
involved with the students. But yeah, it's apparently not that
unusual for the lady teachers sow. And remember it's it's
completely unethical, but completely legal as well at that age. Anyway,
Here the numbers for you n Z X fifty up
zero point one five percent today, so not much of
a move. The ASX fifty is up zero point three

(01:11:41):
percent so far today. Barrel of Brent crude oil now
costs ninety seven dollars US it's gone up two point
twenty four percent just in the last twenty four hours.
One New Zealand dollar is worth fifty eight US cents,
eighty three Aussie cents, fifty euro cents, forty four UK
pence and ninety three yen. And Jamie Kai's with us
next twelve past.

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Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Nothing new, Heather. Back in the nineteen seventies one of
my classmates got the female assistant science teacher pregnant. She'd
been hired to teach biology and talk about contraception to
the female students. Lord Peter, what a yarn? Sixteen past six,
Jamie mckaye, Host of the Countries with US l O,
Jamie good A, Heather, Right, so this investigation into the
lamb exports, tell me about it?

Speaker 24 (01:13:26):
Well, bloody Trump, he's going to get us one way
or another. He's making farming. In fact, he's making business
pretty tough in this country at the moment. You might
remember on Tuesday evening we were talking about beef and
lamb New Zealand's mid season update and a couple of
the key risk factors were obviously the Middle East goes
without saying in the US trade policy, well an investigation

(01:13:47):
into New Zealand and Australian lamb exports to the US
looks set to proceed as US President Donald Trump searches
for replacements for his Liberation Day tariffs. The US International
Trade Commission can investigate where the surges and imports are
causing serious injury to the US domestic market and industries. Now,

(01:14:12):
the numbers are not insignificant here, Heather, the American sheep
farmers are noun too happy. While they're happy to take
all the beef we can offer, they're not so happy
about the sheep meat. Because imports increased forty five percent
between twenty twenty and twenty twenty three. In fact, Australia
and New Zealand accounted for ninety nine percent of imports

(01:14:33):
over that time. Now, the one meat industry sources said
February's ruling against Trump's Liberation Day tariffs by the US
Supreme Court mean that the administration, as I said, is
looking for any means possible to get its tariff agenda
back on track. Because New Zealand's sheep meat exports to
the US currently facing ten percent that's down from the

(01:14:55):
fifteen percent before the ruling. It's not chicken feed what
we're sending over there though, meat sheep meat exports value
rows ten percent to six hundred and eighty five million
in the past year, so it's a sizable market. Forest
beef and lamb New Zealand chair Kate Ackland is arguing
that counter seasonality we provide lamb in their off season

(01:15:18):
production means it's not a direct threat to US producers.
But I don't think the American sheep farmers heather are
buying that for one moment.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
No, hey, listen. So is it the case that the
arable farmers who were supplying waters and McCain's are now
actually getting out about it, getting out of arable farming.

Speaker 24 (01:15:34):
Well they are if they can. And we're particularly seeing
this and the likes of Canterbury. No one seems to know,
not even the high you know, the people in highest places,
like you know, the likes of Miles Hurrel can tell
us exactly, maybe someone an e can can how many
conversions are happening in Canterbury this season. We're hearing this
is dairy conversions. We're hearing sort of twenty to fifty.

(01:15:56):
But what's happened to these poor old arable farmers? They
haven't had a great season weather wise. Now they're hit
with the double whammy of fuel and fertilizer. Diesels more
than double fertilizer prices tip to follow suit. They literally
just can't make a buck. And when you look at
some of the numbers, a combine harvester can use up

(01:16:17):
to one thousand liters of diesel a day. So it's
no surprise that these arable farmers are rarely struggling. Of course,
it's not easy. It's not like turning on a tap
switching from arable farming to dairy farming or another land use.
You have to have consents and then you have to
change whatever you're doing and your farming practices. But experts

(01:16:37):
are suggesting farmers look maybe to change into crops that
need less care and attention in the spring and therefore
cheaper to grow. You may get less income off them,
but the costs for putting them in could be considerably less.
Now the fertilizer prices, that is a bit of a
nightmare at the moment. I know the fuels getting all
the attention, but the likes of urea prices. I'll use

(01:16:59):
an Extralia Australia as an example, Australian sixteen hundred dollars
a ton.

Speaker 8 (01:17:05):
That's more than double.

Speaker 24 (01:17:06):
Now you've got to remember, I'll leave one leave you
with one more.

Speaker 4 (01:17:08):
Fact.

Speaker 24 (01:17:09):
Half of the world's food heather is grown by nitrogen.
So you know, if we don't produce it or we
can't get enough of it, people are going to go hungry.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Interesting. Hey listen, well, I say interesting, but also really scary. Listen,
Thank you very much. Jamie is always talking to you.
Next week, Jamie Mackay, host of the Country. So Putin
I referenced, this is about fifteen minutes ago. Putin is
mocking Kiir Starma. What's happened is that the Russians have
been sending their tankers with oil, right, and it's basically

(01:17:40):
it's a breach of the sanctions.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Of whatever is.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
It's not made him happy at all, and it's to
fight the war in Ukraine. Soar Starma has threatened to
crack down on them and seize these Russian vessels, but
especially if they're in English waters, he's going to come
for them. And he said if the passing through the channel,
he's coming. So what did the Russians do? They sent
two two ships carrying oil through the channel, then send

(01:18:03):
a warship to escort them through the channel, and meanwhile
one of the British naval vessels is just trailing behind
what makes the seed. So that is embarrassing. That's absolutely
embarrassing for the Brits. What's even more embarrassing is the
Telegraph is sitting on the coast watching it all happen
and then reporting about it. We'll talk to m de
Brady about it when he's with us in about twenty minutes.
It's twenty one past six.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
Whether it's macro, micro or just plain economics, it's all
on the business hour with the DUPERICLA and MAS insurance
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Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
Envy, Sam Dicky's going to be with us shortly because
of course the replacement at the FED is going to
take over shortly, so he'll run us through what he
makes of all of that. Is six twenty four. Polymarket,
as I've told you, slightly obsessed with poly market at
the moment, So there's more news on that. There has
been more suspicious White House related bets on polymarket. There

(01:18:57):
are about fifty accounts that they're looking into now that
had only just been created in the hours before the
cease fire with Iran, so it we just created in
those hours beforehand, and then they made bets basically that
Trump would reach a cease fire with Iran. One of
the wallets placed about seventy two thousand US dollars in bets,
then cashed out for a profit of two hundred thousand
US dollars. Another wallet, which joined the platform a couple

(01:19:19):
a couple of days before, traded on this event got
a win of one hundred and twenty five five hundred dollars.
Another wallet, which has created twelve minutes before social the
social media post from Donald Trump, made thirty two thousand
dollars worth of bets and earned a profit of about
forty nine thousand dollars. The margin got smaller and smaller
the closer we got. Some of the profits have been

(01:19:42):
paid out to these accounts, but some of the users
have to wait because Polymarket has now labeled the Iran
usc spire contract as quote disputed given that Iran is
still placing restrictions on straightihor moves and stuff like that.
So we'll see how it goes. But I'll tell you
what you have to give it a bit suspicious about
what PA people know and then are making money off
in that white house and around that white RSA six

(01:20:03):
twenty five.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
There's no business like show business.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
If you thought young people weren't going to the movies,
turns out you'd be wrong. Back in lockdown days, Hollywood
was worried that no one would show up at the
movies that they prefer to sit on their phones and
watch the Netflix. That has changed. Gen Z is the
most active demographic, according to a study out of the
US by Fandango. They are attending more films per year
than the oldies, and they're spending more on snacks, drinks
and the fancy IMAX screens. Seven thousand people will surveyed.

(01:20:34):
Five thousand people considered themselves moviegoers. Eighty seven percent of
gen Z eighty two percent of millennials saw at least
one movie in cinemas last year. I mean, so did I,
but I was watching a kid's booby and I was
there under jurrs for whatever. Compare that with seventy percent
of Gen x's and fifty eight percent of baby boomers.
Gen Z averaged about seven visits a year, not bad

(01:20:55):
considering how many Netflix or originals there are. Now this
may mean a sigh of relief from the cinema owners,
but it doesn't make the problems go where it does
it Because current attendance in the US lags twenty percent
behind the pre COVID years. That's because there's less and
less theatrical releases from the major Hollywood studios. Paramount merged
with sky Dance, now they're merging with Warner Brothers, and

(01:21:16):
that's instilling a lack of confidence that's only intensified by
the Netflix CEO saying the concept was outdated, the concept
of going to the movies obviously, So do you think
the survey proves them wrong? Maybe? Maybe here's the thing.
Maybe the audiences are there, aren't are there? There's just
not enough for them to watch, And as all of
the studios start merging with each other, there's less and

(01:21:38):
less and less for them to watch. So maybe it's
something that's basically killing itself. I don't know. You decide
for yourself. It was the last time you into the movies?
News is next? And then after that, Sam.

Speaker 12 (01:21:48):
Dicky's plots out here, I've come along fifteen Christian.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
Mine, everything from SMEs to the big corporates. The business hour,

(01:22:16):
we had the duper c Allen and mass Insurance and investments,
your futures in good hands used talks'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
You any ever?

Speaker 5 (01:22:31):
Quite right? My bad?

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
You know, when I was saying less and lease, I thought,
this is not right, this is not right. It is
fewer and fewer. But I had already committed to less
and lease, and so I went with it. And we
just had this discussion yesterday in the newsroom between ourselves
and the team, because we're always here striving for excellence,
aren't we just trying to improve improve our grammar all
the time. If I know it's weird contrary to for

(01:22:55):
what comes out of my mouth on a daily basis.
We'd had this discussion. We'd said, if you can measure,
but if you can count it its fewer, and if
you have to measure it, it's less and then but
Locke wasn't part of the meeting, was he, So he
wrote that thing for me to say. So we're blaming
lock Locke by the way as a fill in. So
I don't know, he might not want to come back
after he got named and shamed like that for saying
less and do you know where he's from. Where's he from?

Speaker 20 (01:23:16):
Anne's England, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
What do they speak? Mm hmm, that's right, just saying, hey,
I've got a theory. By the way, we've just been
discussing this what is going on with the movies. I've
got a theory ast what the problem with the movie
is actually, and I'll get it to you. And just
to take twenty four away from seven now, the most
powerful central banker on earth is about to change. Kevin
Walsh's confirmation hearing is next Wednesday. This matter is obviously
for the interest rates around the world. And Sam Dickey

(01:23:39):
from Fisher Funds is with us. Now, Hi, Sam, Hey
a you the now? Sam? Remind us of who Kevin
walshes and why we should care about a US Senate
hearing next week.

Speaker 27 (01:23:48):
Yes, So next Wednesday, the US Senate grills the man
who will almost certainly become a next chair of the
Federal Reserve. So prediction markets have him as a ninety
five per cent probability is he's firty five. He was
the youngest ever FED governor when he was appointed at
thirty five twenty years ago, and interestingly, he was the
Fed's main link to Wall Street during the two thousand

(01:24:11):
and eight financial crisis, so he actually helped stitch together
the emergency bailout of bear Stearns and AIG. And we
should care because this one person sets the time more
than anyone else for global interest rates for the next
four years. So in New Zealand, while shorter term interest
rates to an extent beat to their own drum, medium

(01:24:32):
and long term rates here are much more highly correlated
with US rates.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
So would you consider him a hawk or a dove?
Is he going to cut rates like Trump wants?

Speaker 27 (01:24:42):
Yes, And again, hawkish means he prefers higher rates to
lower and obviously dubvish as the inverse of that. So
this is kind of the paradox of the appointment. Is
Trump is, as we know, spent two years publicly demanding
lower rates, and yet he's nominated a man who historically
has been one of the most hawkish voices in central banking.

(01:25:03):
Now what's he done? Historically He opposed rate cuts during
the two thousand and eight financial crisis, and he actually
resigned from the FED in protest in twenty eleven because
he disagreed with the second round of money printing or
quantitative easy as it's called And just recently, on the
thirtieth of January, when he was nominated by Trump, he

(01:25:24):
triggered what traders are calling the war shock, which drove
gold and silver prices down sort of ten twenty forty
eight hours. But this is the twist here, that is,
he recently changed his tune. I'm not sure I'd be
cynical enough to say he changed his tune to get
the job, but he now argues that AI driven productivity gains.
I mean, the economy can grow faster without stoking inflation,

(01:25:45):
and therefore rates can come down.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Okay, now there is a bit of political drama around this.
What's the hold up?

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
Yes, drama.

Speaker 27 (01:25:53):
So Republican Senator Tom Tillis is blocking his own party's nomination.
So obviously Trump and the Republic's nominating this guy, and
he's a Republican. And that's because the Department of Justice,
and you and I have talked about this before, is
criminally investigating the current FED chair, HOWE believe it or not,
for a building renovation project. It's obviously a bit of

(01:26:14):
a witch hunt. Now tell us he actually likes WSH.
He's not blocking him because he doubts his independence. Which
is critical for any federal bank governor or chairman. He's
blocking all FED nominees, including Wash until the DOJ drops
its criminal investigation. And the argument is, obviously, if the
perception is that the FED chair serves at the pleasure

(01:26:34):
of the President, the market will not think the FED
is independent, and that is key for any central bank.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
What does this all mean for investors then.

Speaker 27 (01:26:42):
Well, I think the big picture, if he stays true
to form, I think we can say the era of
the FEED is a giant safety net for markets. And
you and I have spoken about this before. What trade
is called the FED put is possibly over, so he
wants to actively you know, we talked about money printing
before and quantitative easy. What that actually means is the
feeders hoovered up and bought a lot of bonds over

(01:27:05):
the years to stoke liquidity into the market. So he
wants to actively sell the feed's two trillion dollars of
mortgage bonds, for example, rather than let them quietly roll off,
which Jerome powerd wanted to do. And that's quite a
fundamental regime shift. But the point is, while that sounds
a bit scary because there's no safety net for markets,
It's probably a good thing in the medium to long

(01:27:27):
term as this large jess of central banks around the
world has really encouraged people to take on too much debt.
Now that all assumes he doesn't get swayed by politics
and he doesn't change his tune. But I think the
lesson for investors for us all is don't try and
trade the headlines. Don't try and trade the geopolitics. Trade
the quality of what you own.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Yeah, that is a good lesson. Hey, thank you, Sam
has always good to talk to you. Sam Dickey Fisher
funds nineteen Away from seven.

Speaker 3 (01:27:53):
Ever Duper seen right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
So this is my theory on the movies basically because
this is something that occurred to me in the last week.
Sam producer told me to watch because I watched The
news Reader. Remember I was telling you to watch the
news Reader on Netflix, and then Sam the producer told me,
the guy who plays Dale Jennings and the Newsreader is
also the guy who plays Lastat in the interview with
the Vampire series and he's excellent as lstats Or. I

(01:28:15):
went and watched that. In fact, he was x his
Australian actor doing incredibly well for himself. Sam Reid is
that his name Sam Reid? Anyway, So I watched I
watched two seasons, both seasons of Interview with the Vampire,
and I thought, geez, that's a good I love that.
That was great, can't wait for the third season. And
then I was like, what should I watch next? Old, Look,
there's the Peaky Blinders movie. I love Peaky Blinders, really

(01:28:35):
enjoyed those five or six seasons or whatever it was.
Let's watch that rubbish, absolute rubbish. Hated it and I
was like, what why? And so I thought about it
a lot and eventually realized it was the complexity of
the story. We have now got so used to watching
seasons of shows really good and really good quality because
you don't have to wait for TV AND's to buy

(01:28:55):
a good show or TV three to buy a good show.
You can just choose it yourself on Netflix. Watch really
great shows, really complex, loads of storylines being woven in
and out, and lots of characters and lots of events
and stuff that kind of lead to a crescendo at
the end of the season. You're used to that complexity
because you watch a lot of it. Then you go
and watch a one and a half hour movie with
one storyline and a bunch of characters.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
You go, what the hell that that was?

Speaker 4 (01:29:17):
Over?

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
Really quickly, I reckon, that's the problem is that your
mainstream fell film is now too simple. Then answer to me, are,
but what about the the Saltburn, which was you know
that was that was interesting and complex? What was the
other one?

Speaker 21 (01:29:30):
At everything everywhere, all at once foot years ago, which I.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
Would argue are either completely all borderline art house films,
which means that if you want to go and watch
a film that is still going to grip you in
the same way that a complex series is.

Speaker 20 (01:29:46):
Have your brain switched on for both of those.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
I think, yeah, you're gonna have to go and hunt
out the art house films, you know, the carn type films.
See if that holds up, that's my theory. Anyway, here
the dupless, Are you doing that because you think I've
lost my train of thought? I'm trying to hurry me along.

Speaker 21 (01:30:04):
No, No, I thought I'd just fill the silence there
and break the segments for heart and the show would
sound clear.

Speaker 20 (01:30:09):
Sorry, I won't do it again.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
The audience can handle a Marcus Lush pause. I wasn't
even halfway through a Marcus lush pause. I was like
one quarter of the way.

Speaker 20 (01:30:17):
I'll set up like a timer and the alarm won't
go off for a few seconds.

Speaker 4 (01:30:20):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
You get those things that you put under a sleeping baby.
It waits for ten seconds before it sets the alarm off.

Speaker 20 (01:30:25):
So if I haven't, I'll invest in one of those.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
Yeah, get one of those. So Hayden Jones has confirmed
what I think we all knew was going to happen,
which is that Good Sorts is dead. He's done it
on the Facie page.

Speaker 4 (01:30:37):
He says.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
The problem is simply money. The financial model for free
for air to television doesn't really work when everyone is
on their phones these days, and good Sorts doesn't have
a sponsor currently. It's not cheap to send me around
the country meeting lots of good folks, So the maths
doesn't really add up. Now, before you pour on TV
and Z, he says, it's good to remember they are
a business like any other. They are meant to produce
profit for their shareholder brackets, the government, which is owned

(01:30:59):
by you, funnily enough, and the advertising dollars simply aren't
there anymore. They don't want to stop good Sorts, but
they are trying to make their way in very challenging
circumstances and have a lot of tough decisions to make.
I appreciate that that is the way that that Hayden
has approached this, and I don't know why, because it's
very rare in a journalist, especially a journalist that works
in public broadcasting, very rare for them to have an

(01:31:22):
understanding of how the financials of a business works. So
the fact that he was honest and directed directed people
to understand it is about finances, good from him. Quarter two.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
Ever to do with money, it matters to you. The
Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and Mas Insurance and investments,
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Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
If you want a good complex watch on TV, you
should give Paradise on Disney plus Ago Twists and turns.
Every episode in episode season seven hold on episode seven
season one is one of the best I've ever seen. Yes,
Sam's going all enthusiastic thumbs up. Enthusiastic thumbs up because
Sam already said to me what Paradise was just being tight.
I don't want to have to shell out for another

(01:32:04):
streaming service. The Disney plus, but maybe all have to
Now it's two of you, Thank you. Twelve away from
seven Indo Brady UK correspondence with US Elowinda.

Speaker 8 (01:32:11):
Hey, Heather, good to speak to you again.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
Okay, So Key is and the golf is he yes,
he is.

Speaker 8 (01:32:16):
A two day trips starting off in Saudi Arabia and
it's interesting. I think what he's trying to do here
is patch up relationships because the UK hasn't got involved
in this war of Trump and Israel's has stood completely back,
and I think some partners and allies in the Gulf
have been slightly concerned that the lack of support, not

(01:32:37):
that they were wanting them to join the US and
Israeli war and Iran, but in terms of defending them
from drones and attacks, the UK just doesn't have the
military hardware anymore. We've seen the military here degraded a
lot of the investments, you know, just year on year.
I think successive governments have taken a view that spending

(01:32:58):
on defense is not a vote winner, and that's where
Starmer is right now.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
And how embarrassing then, is it fit to have laid
down the law to potent and then have Potent mock
him with a warship in the Channel.

Speaker 8 (01:33:11):
Yes, Look, the relations with the UK and Russia are
at an historic law. I have interviewed the Russian ambassador
four times in the past four years, all around the
Ukraine invasion anniversary, and they openly mock the UK that
they laugh at the leadership, whether it's conservative or labor,
they don't care. It's a dire, dire situation at the moment,

(01:33:35):
and I think a lot of people feel that eventually
there will be some sort of conflict. But yeah, look,
Putin does what he does, and the UK right now
just really doesn't have the means to do very much.

Speaker 20 (01:33:48):
In a response, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 17 (01:33:50):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
Listen, has someone been putting around the idea that that
picture of the two hundred and fifty dogs is AI.

Speaker 8 (01:33:58):
Yes, and the orris PCA has responded and said it
is categorically not AI. You may have seen this photograph online.
It's awful what they discovered. Two hundred and fifty dogs,
all poodle crosses in one home and the inspector from
the RSPCA who found them, took that picture and that
was the picture that the RSPCA put out with the story.

(01:34:20):
Now it is a correct picture. A lot of the
comments and a lot of dog lovers piled in saying
there's no way anyone would keep dogs like this.

Speaker 7 (01:34:27):
This is AI.

Speaker 8 (01:34:28):
It's all made up.

Speaker 20 (01:34:29):
It is not AI.

Speaker 8 (01:34:30):
You have to trust the charity that is as respected
and as hard working and cares as much about animals
as the RSPCA. And the really serious note, apart from
this awful situation, they uncovered at this property two hundred
and fifty dogs in a cramped space. Basically the key
line from the press release from the RSPCA. They've dealt

(01:34:51):
with four thousand, two hundred such incidents what they call
multi animal incidents in the last year, two hundred in
England alone.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
That's Hey, what happened with Princess Diana's lady in waiting?

Speaker 8 (01:35:04):
So she's been cut speeding again. This is Anne Beckworth Smith.
She lives in Kensington in London. She's been up before
the courts. You hit twelve points on your license here
and that's normally you off the road. Now she was
cut doing thirty six in a thirty zone, speeding again
in front of court. And yes, she was Diana's lady
and waiting for years and years and a very very

(01:35:26):
close friend. She's seventy four now. She told the court
that she has a seventy seven year old brother living
in the town of Salisbury in Wiltshire, which I reckon
would be maybe a six hour round trip by carr
from Kensington in London. And she told the court that
they couldn't possibly take her driving license away because she
looks after her brother. He's in a care home and
she does so much for him.

Speaker 4 (01:35:48):
And then the.

Speaker 8 (01:35:48):
Prosecutor turned to her and said, what you've not told
the court is that you have a second property you
own in the town of Salisbury. So is it beyond
the bounds of reason that you could stay there and
use public transport? And he said, why didn't you tell
the court you have a second home in Salisbury and
she said nobody asked. So the judge gave a six

(01:36:09):
month ban from driving.

Speaker 4 (01:36:11):
So there you go.

Speaker 8 (01:36:13):
Diana's lady in waiting won't be driving for the next
six months.

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
Nobody asked don't use that one. Hey, thank you in
to look after yourself. We're talked to you next weekend
to Brady, UK correspondent, tell you what I've enjoyed. There's
a wonderful incident involving a union worker in Australia. You
know how I feel about the unions, and our unions
have got nothing on the Ozzie unions and the Aussie
Manufacturing Workers' Union in particular has been a complete pain
in the last week. While for BHP the mining company,

(01:36:39):
it's been bombarding BHP iron Ore the business with right
of entry requests so frequently it's about two and a
half a day trying to get a bit of traction
in there. Anyway, one of the union officials did it again.
Turned up, was like right of entry request, here I
come in. But of course, because it's a mind there's
a no no, there's like a zero tolerance policy on alcohol.
So it breathalyzed him and he blew.

Speaker 17 (01:37:00):
He blew.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
A positive result. Union is now saying mouthwash ate away
from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:37:07):
It's the heather too for See Allen Drive Full Show
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Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
Mayor of Auckland's going to be on the show with
us tomorrow. I'm telling you this because we're going to
talk to him about a bunch of stuff, but we
also he wants to talk to us about the cyclone
incoming to Auckland and Corimandel, so you know they'd obviously
taking it reasonably serious seriously, So I'm just I'm flagging
that on your radar five away from seven. Now, this
is weird. So I talk about a lot of weird

(01:37:37):
things on this show, but this is even weird of
than normal, So brace yourself. There is a US comedian
called Nicki Glazer and she is famous. Well, I mean
she hosted the Golden Globes this year. This is reasonably
famous over in the US. She has admitted that she
has what they call a cuck fetish, as in cuck hoolding.

(01:37:57):
She likes her boyfriend hooking up with other women and
then telling her about it, and in true modern fashion
where we say tell each other way too much about ourselves.
She has revealed this on the Call Her Daddy podcast
You call This the Heart Husband famis.

Speaker 28 (01:38:12):
Yeah, Like I would always ask him about like past hookups,
and it's almost like he was telling the same ones,
and I was like, I know this one. So it
wasn't as exciting anymore because I was getting the same stuff.
So I was like, I know, this is like I
had never heard of anything like this. I felt so weird,
but I was like, I think I need you to
like get some more stories.

Speaker 2 (01:38:29):
So she says that there is nothing cooler than a
dog off a leash, which is an interesting turn of phrase.
Now I wouldn't tell you about this so like it
would be like, why am I telling you about weird
Nicki Glazer who you've never heard of before? Probably unless
you're really weirdly into American comedy or the Golden Globes.
I'm telling you this because I am assured by people
who know that. Anik Data says that this is becoming

(01:38:52):
quite trendy out there in people who like to, you know,
color outside the lines. This is the coloring that they
like to do current and this.

Speaker 21 (01:39:01):
Is an oddly appropriate song that I've affect. Actually Business
time by Flight of the Concords to play us out tonight.
If you saw the news earlier this week that they're
playing four shows in Wellington and you're thinking, oh wow,
I might want to go to one of those, I'm
so sorry you're too late.

Speaker 20 (01:39:14):
They've all sold out already.

Speaker 21 (01:39:16):
This is possibly because they're playing at Miao Nui, which
is a venue which is its about nine hundred and
one thousand people, so there are easily four thousand people
who want to see Flight of the Is.

Speaker 9 (01:39:23):
That the one?

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
Is that the one that's out there by good as
gold like round the back? It used to be just
called me out.

Speaker 20 (01:39:27):
I'm looking at the Wellington versus. Yes, yes, there we go,
got a nod. That's the one.

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
Okay, but what's it called? Menwi? Is it bigger now
than bigger?

Speaker 20 (01:39:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
Oh that makes it means okay, well, they're going to
have to put more shows. That's just that's far too
much of a tease, isn't it.

Speaker 21 (01:39:41):
One hundred percent agree, there's clearly demand out there, good
choice an see tomorrow.

Speaker 15 (01:39:47):
Where is this hour over?

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
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