Full Show Podcast: 09 July 2026

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather
Duplicy Allan drive with One New Zealand and the power
of satellite mobile. The news talk said.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Be.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Afternoon, Welcome to the show coming up today. Chris Bishop
on what are essentially canceled roading projects, gil Varan Dolla,
former US Marine on the end of the ceasefire deal
with Iran and the Warrior's Boss. Cameron George on the
deal with Dreamworld or should we call it WA's World?

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Heather Duplicy Allen, Let's.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Not pretend that this roading business today is not a
massive letdown for anyone who voted for the National Party
believing that they would deliver the roads that they promised.
It is a huge letdown. Of the fifteen roads promised
following the last selection, only six of them have construction
dates today. Taketimu North Link Stage one in totunger Or
Tucky to north of Levin Hawks Bay Expressway, Walkworth to Tehana,

(00:53):
Cambridge to Pearere and the Ormana Ormanawa Bridge. I don't
even know where that is the rest of them, well,
good luck to you. The second Mount Vic Tunnel, which
is one of my personal obsessions because of how badly
Wellington needs it has no construction date. In fact, the
pre construction could take us anywhere through to twenty thirty seven.

(01:15):
That is incredibly disappointing. I've heard rumors for months now
that this was the case. I've kept on asking Chris
Bishop about it on this show and he has assured
me the project is all go. But it's not really
is it. Remember what National said at the last election,
spades in the ground in the first term. That is
now a broken promise. Now I have to give credit
where credit is due, and this is to Chris Bishop
because he fronted up today and he got honest with

(01:35):
the public about this. They can't have been easy for
him to do for his own reputation, also for the
political fallout for the National Party ahead of the election.
I know he's angst over this day coming and it
has come and I think he's handled it as best
he could. But this is a mistake that Chris Bishop
and the NATS cannot blame on anyone but themselves. They
cannot blame Trump, they cannot blame the tariffs, they cannot

(01:56):
blame the Iran war, they can't blame inflation. They can't
blame the Labour Party that it was obvious in twenty
twenty three that they were being too ambitious promising all
these roads. They were warned that they were being too
ambitious promising all these roads, and the warnings we find
out today were correct. And now there will be significant
numbers of very disappointed voters who will have to wait
so long for the roads that they were promised that,

(02:18):
you know how changes of government work, they may actually
now never get them.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Ever, due for ce Ellen's.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Welcome to text me on that nine two nine two
as the text number. Bishop is with us after five
o'clock now. A new report out ahead of Mody's visit
tomorrow puts a dollar figure on Indian contributions to the economy.
Indian New Zealand has generated thirty seven billion dollars in
economic activity in the year to March twenty twenty five.
That actually works out around eight and a half percent
of our GDP. They are also responsible for supporting over

(02:47):
two hundred and twenty thousand jobs. So Neil Koschel is
the president of the White Tarket Indian Association and with
US hot Sir Neil, I he I'm very well, thank
you Why do you feel like you had to do this?

Speaker 4 (02:59):
I think we need to set the records straight and
the Indian community, kiv Indian community has been there for
two hundred years and we did a reportant twenty which
only took a small portion of the key Indian's economy
which was ten billion. But in this report we've also

(03:20):
included businesses which are thirty four thousand Indian businesses that
are contributing. And also we took a stance on the
education as well as tourism. And in tourism we can
see that the numbers are about eighty one thousand and
twenty twenty five and that's about nineteen percent up pandemic.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, did you feel to get to my question, do
you feel like you need to defend the Indian migrants
contribution at the moment given the way that some of
the politics is playing out here.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
No, Look, there will always be and essays and who
won't agree. But the numbers speak for themselves and it's
great for the general Kiwis and you know, for kiv
Indian community, and history has shown us and it has
been proven.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Are you going to the Spark event?

Speaker 5 (04:14):
But yes?

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Are you?

Speaker 6 (04:16):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Say yeah, we're you looking forward to it. Tell me
what what what is this? Is it basically just a
giant rally.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
No, I think, look, it's a historic visit. We have
to agree that forty years ago was the last time
when an Indian prime minister came and uh, India, India
is now not a country. It's huge geopolitics, it's huge
in economics. And you know this is this is at
a big level that we've got and we are actually

(04:45):
in New Zealand. We are fortunate that that the prime
minister of a country is like India is coming here.
So and you know the diaspora numbers and not only
diaspora but others friends of India will be there and
India is very important market for us.

Speaker 7 (05:02):
So what is it?

Speaker 3 (05:02):
What what happens at this event? Is it going to
be like are there singer alongs? Is it is there
some sort of like performance on stage or is it
literally just listening to him?

Speaker 8 (05:12):
No?

Speaker 4 (05:12):
I think I think there would be some cultural events
as in performances, and then that's what happened in Australia
and other parts of the world and showcase of diversity
of India. Because India is made up of multiple multiple states,
so every state is very different culturally also, so it
will be a great stress of Indian Indian diaspora as

(05:35):
in different cultures out there. So and then obviously Prime
Minister or the addresses the Kiwi Indians a good stuff.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
We'll have a good time. So, Neil, thanks very much,
Sneil Koschl. Why targeting Indian Association President? What was Matt
Heath eating in the studio before I came in?

Speaker 6 (05:54):
Well?

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Are you aware that he was eating something? He was
eating something that Hold on, let me just pick some
of this up.

Speaker 6 (05:59):
What is this?

Speaker 9 (06:00):
Shall I call hosts to get the vacuum?

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Mate?

Speaker 3 (06:02):
This is don't even tell him, don't tell him, he
will bust a foo foo valve. He's not even until
Monday and he already start flipping out it. It looks
a little bit like rolled oats, like like like it
could have been a kind of bland white rolled oat
musli bar or he might have just been needing a
bowl of rolled but he spilled a lot of it,

(06:22):
so not a lot of it made it into his mouth.
I've had to shake out the keyboard. Do you know
when you get to the when you have a shared
keyboard situation? I don't know how HOSK tolerates sharing keyboards
with the rest of us. You have to do the
old tip it upside down, then give it a good wipe.
There is more mess here than my nineteen month old
makes when she's sitting at the high chair. So I
just it's just because I'm I'm just I'm up to

(06:45):
here with everything today and he's tipped me. No, there
he is? What was it? What was it? It's you're
a peg, by the way, What was it? What is this?
Disgusting stuff all over the DearS is disgusting stuff all
over there, mate, And that's.

Speaker 10 (07:00):
Like, look at it.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Look how far away it got from you?

Speaker 11 (07:02):
What is that?

Speaker 3 (07:03):
What did you eat? It can't be me whatever, he's
a vacuum before you came, you didn't I did. I
don't know how his girlfriend lives with him. A second,
he's coming, just coming to clean it up. So hosking
doesn't You're disgusting. Tell you about the pole and the
take fourteen past four.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
It's the Heather du Busy All and Drive Full Show
podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talk Zippy.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Here the Secret Center. Get him a bib. He came
to be to his credit that has come in. I
swept most. I swept most of it. There's still a
few crumsy, but I swipped most of it onto the
ground and he vacuumed under my feet. So bless him,
and he does from me. He was like, I don't know,
it wasn't me, And then he's like, oh, that's right.
I was really hungry, so I ate Himusley but really.

Speaker 12 (07:47):
Well, you'd think you'd actually eat the Moosley bar as
opposed to most of the ingredients being thrown on the floor.
He threw it at his face, tried to eat the
whole lot. Wouldn't mean a problem.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Seventeen past four sport with generate putting performance first generate?
Can we save the dot co.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Dot inset the seventeen pass? Well? Does he water grave?
Sports talkhoasters with us allow dust?

Speaker 6 (08:07):
Why?

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Hello, Hey, what did you make of that All Blacks team?

Speaker 8 (08:09):
You like it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:10):
I do.

Speaker 12 (08:11):
What I like the most about this, even though I'm
a horrible Crusaders fan, is the fact they've kept that
wonderful spine of Hurricanes players. That is, they're going to
future proof it. Let these guys get used to what
Dave Renie wants in his systems and let them run
it through. Roy Garden Love and Barrett and Proctor, let

(08:32):
them carry on. They're going to give a squirt to
to Pervey. He can cast last time out. So he's
back in the driver's seat and he's probably our best lock, i'd.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
Say at the moment.

Speaker 12 (08:43):
So great to see him, and a bit of a
tweak on the outside, and hopefully Anton Segna gets a
run and makes kids his debut off the little.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
German I'd love.

Speaker 12 (08:52):
It's not that little.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
When I say little, I was referring to his age.

Speaker 12 (08:57):
Right, Yes, he's a little young.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Have you read Ross Carl's piece today? I can't read, okay,
so let me read it to you. Ross Carl's piece
is Camroyguard the new Dan Carter. And the argument he
makes is that back in the old days, it was
the half back that delivered in the first five that decided,
and he thinks it's changed now the decision making is
made one pass earlier. Okay, what do you think?

Speaker 12 (09:20):
Well, I think that Ruben loving it a few things
to say about that, because his ability to make these
decisions and the way he held that responsibility and role
in the first test was very, very impressive. Now, if
indeed Ross is right, this is an issue between you're
nine and ten. You need to know who's running the show,

(09:41):
because if you're having an argument about that and somebody's going, no,
I'm doing it, there was a breakdown at that key
pivot that Faulk from area.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
His argument is that this is happening around the world
in rugby. It was started with a spring box some
time ago. Yeah, anywoll keep an eye on that because
that might be a thing. Okay, now what do you
make of that try in the State of Origin.

Speaker 12 (10:00):
I watched the first half and then I was kind
of dozing through the second half and fell asleep, and
I've watched it on replay in the morning. Look, they
can complain all they want. It was super super tight
and they're saying the NRL, well, no, maybe it shouldn't
have been a runaway try, but at least just one
a clock back a wee bit in the first half.
New South Wales blew them out of the park, and

(10:21):
at that stage in the game where the runaway try occurred, yea,
there was still I think there was still eighteen point differential.
I don't think it would have made much of a difference. No,
I really don't. The New South Wales played so well
in the earth area through Clary.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
The argument was that it was a knock on a yeah,
and how much of a knock on was it?

Speaker 6 (10:41):
Where?

Speaker 12 (10:41):
It depends how much of the hand was on the board.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
But it was minuscule stuff right where.

Speaker 12 (10:46):
Bet if it's minuscule, it's still a hand on the ball.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
But okay, so can I just take you to another
point because the same thing happened in the Test, the
All Blacks Test against the French. Do you remember that
there was that tiny little knock on and then a
try was disallowed because of it. I want to I
just keep making this point. I made this. I made
this point to you last rugby season. It's too much.
There's too much nitpicking over really small infractions.

Speaker 12 (11:08):
It's getting forensic. It's turned into CESI and it does
become a little sillyer for a while. I mean, there
are people that losing the points or they lose that decision.

Speaker 10 (11:18):
It's not fair.

Speaker 11 (11:19):
We've gone back.

Speaker 12 (11:19):
But it's such a dynamic game. It's played at completely
ridiculous speeds and physicality. To be able to go right
the way down as a seed to that forensic level
sounds a little silly. The referee called it.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Thet it go Yeah, thank you. I'm with you on that,
thank you do.

Speaker 12 (11:35):
And on the show tonight, we've got a blake called
Brody Retellic. You may have heard of him before. It's
quite a handy rugby player back in the day. He'll
be talking to us about the All Black team and
Justin Marshall is going to have a wander on in
and talk to us as well about that team.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Under any good stuff, Darcy Watergrow sports storre Coast back
at seven four twenty.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
One, cutting through the noise to get the facts. It's
Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand and the
power of satellite news talks.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
That'd be Heather. It's just a few roads, not a
big deal. Think of the bigger picture, or Marcus, it's
just a few roads. That's not how the transport ministers.
But there's not why he's been angsting about it, because
there's just a few roads and not a big deal. Anyway,
I'll run you through the roads. They've been split into
three different categories, like the ones that are happening, the
ones that might happen. The ones is probably never gonna happen.
I'll run you through that shortly. Here the fare the

(12:21):
media excitement over support for the Opportunity Party. Note they
could only muster three point two percent in today's taxpayers poll. John,
thank you for bringing me to this. Here we go.
So we've got the latest Taxpayers Union Curier poll, which
they put out every month. Labour is still the biggest
party on thirty one point five percent. They've come back
zero point seven percent. The trend is important here. Labor
are declining because once Chippy starts talking, we remember we

(12:44):
don't actually like him, and so watch. This is how
Labour loses the election because they have they've got the
wrong leader and just a bunch of crap ideas as well. Anyway,
they're still the biggest at the moment, but the trend
is down. National is on thirty point five. They are
up half a percentage point. Greens have come back about
a point, sitting on ten and a half. Act is
down a little bit better point as well. They're sitting
on seven. New Zealand First is down about a half

(13:06):
a percentage point. They're sitting on eleven. Maori Party is
up ever so slightly to three point four percent. And yes,
the Opportunity Party is on three point three percent. They've
only gained one zero point one percentage points. The coalition
government under the scenario wins on sixty two seats versus
the Left on fifty eight. Chris Hapkins is slightly ahead
of Christopher Luxon as the preferred prime minister. He's on
nineteen point two. Luxein's on nineteen point one. Good news

(13:28):
for the coalition government. The right track, wrong track is
improving the right track, let me give it yep. So
thirty nine percent of the country, so the of the
voter say the country is headed in the right direction.
Forty five point five percent, so the country is headed
in the wrong direction. So still quite a lot more
of us think we're headed in the wrong direction. But
it is starting to improve as the economy improves, which

(13:49):
is what national needs. That to happen before the election.
If it doesn't flip before the election, they're going to
have a little bit of difficulty. And on policy, by
the way, Barry will give us his take when he's
with us shortly obviously, just before five o'clock. On politics,
New Zealand First has added another reheat to the roster.
So the announced that Hurdy to Hiphungle is going to

(14:09):
be a New Zealand First candidate at the election. You'll
know her name. She I think she's got married now,
so it's Hardy to Hiphungle Brownly different brownly, not that brownly.
But anyway, you'll know her name. It'll be recognizable to
you because she was a National Party MP for a
bit there. It's not altogether a surprise that she's standing
for the New Zealand First guys, because she was at
one of their conferences. I think I want to say

(14:31):
it was last year or something like that.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
She is.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
This is a very deliberate play by New Zealand First
for the kind of what we would think the fringe
could consider the fringe crowd, because Hardtah likes to say
things online that we would think her a little on
the fringe side. She said some pretty conspiratorial stuff about
the Arduna administration. I don't like the Arduna administration. I
hated it, as you well know. I thought heaps, I
thought they ballsed up COVID badly, but I still did

(14:56):
not think that there was a conspiracy going on there.
Hardatts has gone further than me. She thinks there's a conspiracy.
She was at the mandate protests. She's this is a
play for the anti vax and and the kind of
like slightly slightly nutty crowd. Anyway, good good for them.
At least it's a woman. I was starting to get
a bit like man heavy there for a bit. I

(15:17):
feel like she's the kind of woman who could also
handle being in a in a caucus room with some
of those characters like Shane, because there's a lot of
testosterone in that room. Now A Nashy got Shane, got
Marcus Marcus? Why am I saying Marcus? What's his name? Michael? Anyway?
Their mind news is.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Next, hard questions, strong opinion. Here the duplicy Ellen drive
with one New Zealand and the power of satellite mobile
news talks, they'd.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Be amna woodbridges in the lower clime. I think you
were going to get to oh run, you saw those
roads in the next few minutes. Graham Platner, who is
the Democratic nominee for the US Senate and main and
the one that's had all the controversy surrounding him, has
suspended his campaign. He put out an eleven minute video

(16:10):
on social media. He still denies the sex assault allegations,
but he says for the movement to continue, it can't
be me. For that reason, we are suspending campaign operations.
Barry soapers with us in ten minutes. The murray Olds
are standing by. It's twenty four away from five.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
It's the world wires on news talks. They'd be drive.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Donald Trump says the Iran cespier is over and he
may put the country under another naval blockade. The US
will also head a run with more air strikes and
has already done it. Trump says, Iran is asking already
for another deal.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
We've already won vilitarily.

Speaker 12 (16:41):
They have very little, never little left, and they want
to make a deal so badly.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
They called a little while ago.

Speaker 11 (16:48):
They want to make a deal so badly.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
I just don't know if they're worthy of making it.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
You, I don't know that they're going.

Speaker 6 (16:53):
To nor the deal.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
That's ron over the ditch. Ossie Mobile network Talstra is
in a bit of trouble today for major network outages.
Some people have been unable to make emergency calls. That's
a big no no. There have also been disruptions to
train services. The chief executive of Victoria's Transport authority says
it has been a nightmare and.

Speaker 13 (17:11):
Disruption of the scale is unprecedented, has been unprecedented for US.
Organizing a bust replacement program for a whole network that
normally runs, you know, thousands of people a day, normally
takes months to plan.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
And finally, UK police have released another hide and seek
body can video. This time it's of a recently convicted
domestic abuser. Police arrested or arrived to arrest him last August,
but he hid. He hid in a fridge and police
found him by opening the fridge door.

Speaker 14 (17:43):
Hey an mate, how we go? All right?

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Nice international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Business should probably actually just have taped it up, shut
it up, seeing how that goes for him. Murray Old's
Australia correspondent with US now he mus afternoon, Hey is
mody in town with.

Speaker 6 (18:02):
You people already Melbourne indeed, And there's a huge turnout
tonight at Dockland Stadium. Normally of course it packed out
with Ozzy rules football. They're going to have twenty thirty
thousand people. He's a bit of a rock star. Every
time he's come here. He's got huge crowds as a
very very large Indian diaspora in Australia, mainly Sydney's West

(18:23):
and Melbourne's West, So huge turnout tonight, many supporters. But
also there's going to be a counter demonstration. We're told
Mody is not regarded well by many people in terms
of you know, the allegations of corruption are there, you know,
so there's going to be a counter Mody demonstration. It
doesn't matter to the Australian government. They rate this guy

(18:45):
very very highly. Their rate India as well. There's going
to be a swag of announcements, a concerning trade, concerning opportunity,
for example in uranium exports. India, unlike Australia, is embarking
on a massive nuclear power program. They also want to
expand defense tie security cooperation. The Quad very important to

(19:06):
Australia and to India. But New Delhi is coming here
certainly with a big checkbook and Australian wants to satisfy
every need that mode he might have.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
How much trouble is Telstrand, well.

Speaker 6 (19:18):
Yeah, it look it depends politically. The Opposition's a bit hopeless. Really,
there was a Liberal senator from South Australia. Oh, I
had a note in my office that one person may
have died after being unable to reach triple zero the
emergency nut well hello, police said, no, that's wrong, you're
making that up. But the fact of the matter is
Telsea looks like a bit of a goose today. If

(19:40):
this is correct, I mean please, it's like Fred Flintstone,
Telstra confirmed a broken clock in a data center sparked this.
It's the worst nationwide outage of a telco.

Speaker 15 (19:52):
In a decade.

Speaker 6 (19:53):
What this clock did, It went back almost twenty years
to two thousand and six and bugging up all these
emergency calls, wrecked the train network in Victoria, didn't do
much with the trains in New South Wales either. About
one hundred thousand people couldn't make these triple zero calls.
And on the back of the last outage, which was

(20:14):
this year of last year, I just forget now there
certainly new protocols were put in place that you know,
there were welfare checks and if one carrier was out,
the other carriers were supposed to be able to automatically
switch over and pick up those emergency triple zero calls.
They're working through now to see the extent to which
that worked and to iron out any problems that may

(20:34):
be there, because it's very, very important. But if a
broken clock did this, it's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Now explain the relevance of the broken clock. Is the
broken clock wired into the system or is it just
a clock up on the wall that broken. Somebody looked
at it and went, it must be four o'clock.

Speaker 6 (20:47):
No, it's Look, it's a data center clock. So it's
hard my understanding, isn't you know? I hastened to add,
I'm not an electrical engineer. The way I read this,
and I've heard it a couple of times the air
as well. This clock is hardwired into the data center.
So the data center's rocking along, and you know, the
next you know, it's fifty nine minutes past twelve. Well

(21:11):
it went fifty nine minutes past twelve two thousand and six.

Speaker 14 (21:15):
See it just flipped back twenty years.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Oh, as you do. So, I mean it was a
good time, though I was back in two thousand and six,
wasn't it?

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (21:24):
It was easye much better?

Speaker 7 (21:25):
How good was that?

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Pauline Hanson? Though I was speaking of going back in time?
Pauline Hanson. So she's going on with Tommy, is she?

Speaker 11 (21:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (21:33):
I mean, it's what does this guy Tommy got to
do with Australia. Tommy Robinson, he's a rat bag. He's
been jailed for all sorts of horrible things. But now
Pauline's going to jump in on the podcast to act
the same thing it got Karl Stefanovic the sack from
his podcast and the sack from Channel nine. Anson's going
to do a podcast with this clown. You'll also meet

(21:56):
Nigel Farage by the way in London. Now, as I say,
Robinson's a convicted criminal, but he heaped praise on Pauline
Hanson when she appeared with with and he appeared with Stefanovic.
He called her one of the bravest ladies on the planet. Well,
of course you're going to be all over him like
a cheap suit. She goes to London on come on
my podcast please. Well they're made for each other, I mean,

(22:18):
goodness me and you know we're yet to hear if
Karl is going to step up and become one of
her MP's. We haven't heard yet, but he's I think
he might be looking for work. He hasn't got a
job right now.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Yeah, we'll see what happens.

Speaker 14 (22:29):
Marz.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Thanks very much, enjoy your weekend. This's Mariol's Australia correspondent,
uh eighteen away from five Heather due to the l
my kid, that was a clock joke in my head.
That was a clock joke. Nobody for nobody else was
that a clock joke. But I enjoyed it very much
because I was near mine. Anyway, Here go hear the roads. Okay, So,
as I told you, the roads of national significance have
been broken into three different categories, ones that are already happening,

(22:52):
ones that may happen, and ones that ain't going to
happen for ends.

Speaker 8 (22:55):
Here we go.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Phase one under construction and procurement going to happen or
Tucky North of Levin, Hawks Bay Expressway, tuke Timu North
Link Stage one and then the Umanawah Bridge and the
Kaimis also the Northland Expressway and Cambridge to piare d
e Wycuttle Expressway which was funded in the budget just
the other day. Phase two, which is preparing for construction

(23:16):
and route protection, which is no funding being allocated to them.
So you can decide for yourself. If this is going
to happen or not, Belfast Pegasus Road, Tucke Timu, North
Link Stage two, Mill Road Stage one, the North Northwest
Busway Stage is one, B and two and the Hope
by Pass Stage one. As I say no funding allocated,
Phase three not gonna happen, I mean they brackets. The

(23:41):
Government says, brackets continuing more slowly. I say, brackets, just
wait till Labour gets in with the Greens and cancels it.
The Northland Corridor from Tahna to funad A, the East
West Link Mill Road from Alfriston to Drury and Auckland
but Toni to Grenada Road in Wellington, and the second
stage of State Highway Sex Hope Bypass. Chris Bisship, Transport Minister,

(24:01):
is going to be with us on this just after
five o'clock and Barry Sobers with us next seventeen away
from five.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
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Speaker 3 (24:09):
By the way, the rapid review has come back on
the wycutt le Ed death. We're going to have the
one of the Health New Zealand bosses, Richard Sullivan with
us just after half past five. Right now, it's fourteen
away from five and barries with us. Hey, Barry, good afternoon, Heather. Okay,
so we're joining this defense alliance with Fiji, are we?

Speaker 11 (24:23):
I would think almost inevitably. The Prime Minister met with
journalists here in Auckland this afternoon, and of course the
Fijian and Australians and our formerly allies. The Prime Minister
said that they already worked with both countries and they'll
see how they can develop this close liaison. It's interesting,

(24:46):
isn't it when you can say where Fiji was some
years ago the military cups they are now a respected
member of the Pacific again. It's taken some time, but
I think deservedly so. It would make officially our seek
and ally after the and Is deal with the United
States fell over because of our anti nuclear stance. The

(25:08):
Problenist has said today he hopes we won't see another
missile being fired by the Chinese, though if we do
sign up to the pact.

Speaker 16 (25:15):
It's pretty unwelcome and concerning the actions that we've seen,
Firing a long range missile into a nuclear free Pacific
goes against the spirit of how we want to have
an ocean of peace in the Pacific. We don't want
to see this becoming standard behavior. We don't want to
see an increasing militarization of the Pacific. And you know,
this is the second activity we've seen in second in
eighteen months.

Speaker 11 (25:35):
Yeah, it's interesting, you know, the militarization of the Pacific.
But what they're doing is they're hoping more Pacific countries
sign up to this pact Australia, fig New Zealand, and
that'll be expanded. And of course it is sending a
message to the Chinese, whether we like it or not,
that look, the Pacific is at one when it comes
to their Western way of life, I guess.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
And they've put all five guns together. Are they going
to take on the People's Liberation Army Navy?

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, well, when you.

Speaker 11 (26:03):
Look at it, either if the Chinese were upset with Australia,
if we do sign up, at least we're on the
right side. With the United States bound to approve NATO's
wrapped up, you'll be aware. In Turkey and not surprisingly,
once again, it was the American President Donald Trump who
reigned supreme again. Trump left participants and observers confused, which

(26:25):
led the UN Secretary General Mark Ruter or Ruta I
should say who at last year's NATO summit, you remember,
referred to Trump as Daddy, telling member countries they've got
nothing to worry about with the United States here they are.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
I'm not happy with NATO because of what they did
with Greenland, and I'm not happy with NATO because of
the fact that they didn't want to help us with
the number one state sponsor of terror that's around who
were unwilling to help us when we wanted them. We
didn't want them badly, but we did say if you
want to join us, and they all said no.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
But when they could have, they weren't there for us.

Speaker 17 (27:00):
We've been there for then.

Speaker 18 (27:01):
We just concluded a very successful NATO summit here in Turkey.
I just want to say there was tremendous love in
that room. There was tremendous unity in that room.

Speaker 17 (27:10):
We've all half your forceful debates. Sometimes people will argue
at the top of their lungs their points of view,
and others will answer them. And I'm never I'm never
worried about that because in the end, the aron alliance
of democracy has made us stronger. And I always know
that President Trump and the US is completely committed to NATO.

Speaker 18 (27:29):
They respect us as a country again. They didn't respect
us two years ago. They laughed at us. NATO laughed
at us. Everybody laughed at us. They don't laugh anymore.
There's no more laughing.

Speaker 11 (27:40):
Well, if they're not laughing, they surely should have been.
After he talked about the Iranian attacks on an American
aircraft carrier, We listen, we.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Have an aircraft carrier which is one of the most
beautiful in the world. That's one of the biggest they
ever have, Lincoln. And a few months ago we had
one hundred and eleven missile shot by the Islamic Republic
of Japan. They were shot at the aircraft carrier over
a period of about one hour.

Speaker 11 (28:06):
Well, did you know this seems to be in Islamic
Republic of Japan now involved. So Trump concluded the NATO
Issamate scathingly, declaring the ceasefire with Iran is over. Are
taking Spain? The most trenchant NATO critic of the American's
actions in the Middle East, I think it's over.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
I don't want to deal with them in him with
this scum.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
You know what scum is.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
There's scum, there's sick people. They're led by sick people
in Spain is a wasted cause. We don't want to
do any trade business with Spain anymore. By the way,
like you to cut it out. Spain is a terrible
partner in NATO. They don't participate, they don't pay. I
don't want anything to do with Spain. Cut off all
trade to a span pless.

Speaker 11 (28:44):
Well, thank goodness, we're with the leader of the free world.
That's all I can say.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
So you have a theory that he's demean today you do?
Is it demeansha Alzheimers.

Speaker 11 (28:55):
I've talked to a psychologist that understands dementia very well,
and as you in that first longuage clip, he was
contradicting himself totally experts, saying there's a lot of love.
And he went on to say that that love, he said,
if I was cynical, I would say the loves for me,

(29:15):
you know. But you know, honestly, there is something not
quite right there.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
And your theory as it is dementia, well, I'm sure.

Speaker 11 (29:23):
Well I'm not sure because I'm not a clinical psychologist,
but one who does know.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
She assures me that there is a psychologists specialized in dementia. Anyway,
melapropisms like like Japan versus like Japan in place of
I run, are in fact a sign of dementia.

Speaker 12 (29:42):
Well, no, that's a minor part of what we're going
to get.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
A little dementia is a wonderful man. Just really quickly
on the Taxpayers Union Curier poll. Anything in there that
that that is surprising to you because it feels like
a kind of situation is normal one.

Speaker 11 (29:57):
I mean nothing much as it mends that the government
would be returned. This is the current coalition, the Opportunities
Party there at about three point six percent, are still
well under that five but who knows. I mean, it
looks as though at this stage the current coalition would
be returned.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Barry, thanks very much. Appreciate it. Barriso for seeing your
political correspondent.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
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Speaker 3 (30:39):
At what point would you be worried before the end
of the year if there was two more or one
more or no more?

Speaker 8 (30:44):
It depends on economic events. And while I've been celebrating,
as I'm sure any New Zealanders have been, the big
fall and the pit full price at the pump. Of course,
just in the past twenty four hours we've seen the
price of oil leap out five percent as the skirmish
in the Middle East continues. So we still don't have
the full information about what happened in that three months
when the crisis was peaking, how high actually did inflation go.

(31:05):
And until I've got that information, it's pretty difficult to
guess what the right response through the oc.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Eras back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast
with Avida News.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Talk z B Yeather, Barry should have talked to the
psychologist about his teds while he had the chance. Hither,
I know, as psychologists who thinks Barry has teds, Mate,
you don't need to go to a psychologist to figure
out Barry's got teds. Barry admits he's got teds anyway.
On the subject, though, Trump is still bombing Iran, and
this is now the second day of it sounds he's
hitting the port infrastructure, and it sounds like, according to

(31:36):
sourcers who spoken to US media, day two of the
bombing is going to be bigger than day one of
the bombing. And of course Iran is now retaliating and
they're attacking US military sites in Bahrain and q Wait.
I think, I mean, we're here in the West. We
love to do the thing. God Donald Trump's fault, welly,
hang on a tick. Why is he bombing Iran? He's
bombing Iran because Iran struck three ships. The three ships

(31:59):
were portedly trying to skirt the coast of Oman, the
southern side the Strait of Homers and get out without
having to pay the Iranians. They're toll that they've now
imposed and so Iran went after the three ships. I
think that that's a strategic mistake from Iran. I think
they've overplayed their hand. I think they thought that I'm
guessing that what they thought is it's close to the
midterms now for Trump, he's not going to do anything.

(32:20):
It's too much of a local domestic political risk, so
we can get away with whatever. And they found out actually, no,
Trump is doing a bit of FAFO parenting at the moment.

Speaker 14 (32:28):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Gil barn Doll, a former marine, will be with us
after five. Do you want another candidate announcement now that
we've dealt with HARETI who's gone from National to New Zealand. First,
the best candidate announcement so far, I reckon, of all
of the candidate announcements, goes to the New Conservatives who
have just announced their leader today. Her name is Helen.

(32:49):
That's all you're going to get about Helen. We don't
know Helen's surname Helen. The bio they've put on the
Facebook post says, meet Helen woman, New Zealander, heterosexual, and
then the caption reads, It's okay to be heterosexual, It's
okay to love your country. It shouldn't be controversial to
say either. Fortunately for them, it is not controversial to

(33:11):
say either. I'm and swap me in there go Heather woman,
New Zealander. Heterosexual.

Speaker 9 (33:16):
People do also call you Helen by mistake.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
A lot it could be made. I'm the leader of
the New Conservatives. That's me. She's anyway, no last name,
sixteen likes. I'm gonna have to do better than that.
Maybe I should come out my surname and admit it. Anyway.
Chris Bishop is with us next on, essentially canceling a
whole bunch of roading projects, news talks. He'd be.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
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Speaker 14 (34:00):
V Good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Surprise, surprise, some of the roads of national significance will
not be built anytime soon. In fact, only six of
the fifteen promised roads are now locked in for construction.
The Transport Minister finally admitted the obvious today all of
it can't get underway immediately and he's with us high bish.

Speaker 7 (34:15):
Gooday, tough day for you.

Speaker 10 (34:19):
Oh look what We've announced a pipeline today of a
lot of projects that will get underway in the coming years,
which is really exciting for the construction sect there and
exactly what the infrastructure sect has been asking for, which
is a strong pipeline and it's essentially being done in phases.
There's a bunch of stuff being built right now, and
there's a couple more about to start, including the first

(34:39):
stage of North London Cambridge Stupidity. There's some projects that
are progressing into construction readiness in the next few years,
and then there's some things that are on a bit
more of a slower track, so sort of broken it
up into chunks. And I think it's a realization and
a recognition that, you know, you can't start everything all
at the same time. You literally couldn't build all of
these projects well at the same time. The market capacity
is not there, let alone the feasibility. So it's just

(35:01):
putting a bit of meat on the bones of the
existing plan.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
I mean, you're giving it a very good spin. But
let's take a look at what's going on with the
second mount for tunnel. When are we going to have
spades in the ground.

Speaker 10 (35:11):
So that is going through root protection right now, NCTA
is about to lodge a fast tracked consent for that.
You can't do anything on the project unless it's consented,
So they're about to lodge that and that'll you know,
look towards twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight. So that's
often to the forthcoming years.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Saying, are you saying that they're going to start digging
that tunnel in twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 7 (35:35):
And I'm not saying that In fact, well, they've done
some geotech work already.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
To be honest, when are they start digging that tunnel?

Speaker 7 (35:41):
Well, I don't, I don't.

Speaker 10 (35:42):
I can't give you a date for that because we'll
get the root protection right, and we've got to get
the funding.

Speaker 7 (35:47):
We've got to funding that place.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
It's got no funding. But I'm asking you this because
you said in twenty twenty three, ahead of the last
election there would be spades in the ground in the
first three years.

Speaker 7 (35:56):
There are spades in the ground on it.

Speaker 17 (35:58):
Right now.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
You are laughing because you know you've been bloody cheeky here, Ah.

Speaker 10 (36:03):
It's a little I accept it's a little bit cheeky, mate,
It's not a little bit cheeky.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
I am obsessed with this project because I realized how
important this is for Wellington. When you've said spades in
the ground, I thought you would start digging the bloody
hole this term.

Speaker 10 (36:16):
Yeah, yeah, fair to say we wanted well, I think
I think it'd be fair to say we wanted to
make more progress on it than we have.

Speaker 7 (36:24):
But it's it's been a tricky project.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
It's it's not project you run out of You ran
out of money and they told you. I hate saying label,
right because I wanted to believe the stuff, But they
told you you were going to run out of money
because the fuel excise tax has been stopped for bloody years.
By the time you won the election, you knew you
were going to run out.

Speaker 10 (36:43):
Of money, and no one wants to raise fuel tax,
and unsurprisingly people listening to Okay, so your mistakes to
be paid for. So I think it'd be fair to
say we wanted to make a bit more progress on
it than we have.

Speaker 7 (36:54):
But it's not consent.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
You never had enough money.

Speaker 7 (36:56):
But now it's not about the money with mount think
it's about the can sense. It's not. It's not. The
route's not you know the route.

Speaker 10 (37:03):
We've got a route, but it's not consented and it's
about to go through fast track and there's a whole
lot of work to do around it, and and that
work is underway. So I want to make I want
to make that really, make that point really clear to
people listening that work is underway and you can't start
building a road until you've done that work and that
work is happening.

Speaker 7 (37:18):
You don't even have that that will be happening.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
You don't have the money.

Speaker 7 (37:21):
That's that's not correct, really, yeah, no, that's not correct.
There is well I'm not going to give you a
date because because we don't have a date yet. But
the work is listen and the project is a government priority.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
But here's the thing, Okay, there are a whole bunch
of disappointed. This is this affects Wellington. Wellingtonians will be
gutted by this because they were looking forward to this, right.

Speaker 10 (37:44):
So, I don't know, having on the mine, I don't
think anyone in Wellington thought the Mount Tunnel project or
the Terrace Tunnel was going to start next year. I
don't think anyone thinks that it was not going to
be the case.

Speaker 7 (37:53):
But we are making progress on both.

Speaker 6 (37:58):
Well.

Speaker 7 (37:58):
I'm sorry, you can't.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Win upset spades in the ground in the first three years.
That is literally what people thought.

Speaker 10 (38:05):
Mate, that there's good work underway on that project right
now and we're making good progress on it.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Okay, But I mean, have you got money for the
harbour crossing for Auckland or is that also just too
ambitious pie in the sky? Nonsense.

Speaker 10 (38:18):
No, We're taking our time to get that one right.
That's that's like a molt. I mean, if you think
these roads are expensive, wait until you see her.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
I'm resetting my expectations here at the moment. Listen, thanks
very much. It's a tough day for you, but appreciate
you fronting up. Chris Bishop, Transport Minister. Twelf past five
here the duples. Donald Trump strikes on Iran and now
in their second day overnight at NATO, He's declared the
ceasepy over. He called Iran's leaders scum. Iran has struck
back at Bahrain in retaliation. Gil barn Dollar, as a

(38:47):
non resident fellow at Defense Priorities in a former US
Marine who actually served in Bahrain. High Gil, how are
you very well? Thank you?

Speaker 1 (38:54):
What do you reckon?

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Is the end game here for Donald Trump?

Speaker 19 (38:57):
Well, that presumes there is one. I mean I think
I could go in a bunch of different directions. But
it may be we may just be in for another
cycle like we've kind of seen, only only more pronounced
of just episodic strikes by both sides and no real
resolution to this uh to this war that's suddenly hot again.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
It seems does it seem to like there's a pattern
on what they're striking. I mean they seem to be
going for the military infrastructure again, in the port infrastructure.

Speaker 19 (39:22):
Yeah, the Runians I think of I think initially, you know,
earlier in the campaign, they they they'd be eve in
a pretty rational manner. It may not be you know,
maybe not people people want to hear, but they kind
of escalated gradually striking US installations and then and then
started putting economic pressure on the GCC states right by
hitting oil infrastructure, you know, airports, all kinds of infrastructure

(39:44):
within within the Gulf States. Right now they're back to
hitting US military facilities for the most part. I think,
although I've seen a little bit of kind of mixed
reporting on this, it's probably a little bit unclear. So
you know, all those those facilities have mostly been evacuated,
and that happened early in the war, even before the
beginning of hostilities. So you know, the fifth Fleet put
to sea from bobraying, those ships aren't there. You know,

(40:05):
US Air Force jets are not really using are not
using aludaide and cutter and the US presence in Kuwait,
which sometimes has a brigade plus you know, has been
has been cut down. So they're causing they're causing damage,
and it has both symbolism and also makes it a
lot harder for the US to reoccupy those bases, you know,
when and if this war comes to a conclusion.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Okay, So do you think that the Iranians possibly overplayed
their hand when they target those three ships a couple
of days ago.

Speaker 20 (40:34):
I think it.

Speaker 19 (40:34):
You know, it really comes down to something that I
think nobody, nobody outside Iran has has a good read on,
which is the degree of economic pressure they're facing. And
I you know, you can get folks that are really
that are oil industry experts in particular, or or sanctions
experts to look at the degree to which the Iranians
can withstand, you know, a closure to have their their
oil exports shut off. Obviously, the US had taken unprecedented

(40:56):
steps and in terms of letting Iran sell its oil
on the open market. Now that's all been shut back.
So I think the economic pressure is the big thing.
But I think the Iranian bet, as it has been
for really the duration of this war, is that they
can take that kind of economic punishment longer than the
US or than the West at large can.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
So, as you say, we are just guessing at the moment,
but what would your base get a bit? What would
your beast guess? Bit?

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Lord, I can't even get the English out. What would
be your best guess? Would it be that we're in
for just a few days of bombing, or this is
back into the like weeks long thing.

Speaker 19 (41:29):
I suspect that we're going to be back and do
a week's long back and forth. I mean, what worries
me more is that President Trump will do something much
more dramatic and escalatory. To be honest, I hope he
doesn't have the stomach or does have the sense not
to do that. You know, he's talked openly about about
potentially seizing carg Island, which would be I think a
really dangerous proposition, not in terms of the US being

(41:51):
able to do it, but in terms of casualties American
forces would take in the days afterwards. And you know,
there's been some reporting that the UN I've heard the
secondhand as well, that United's came very close to doing
a kind of joint Special Operations Command read to try
to seize highly enricheranium. Now we're talking a couple months
ago when the war was at its height, but I
think something like that would have been been an absolute

(42:13):
disaster in the making. So I think there are a
lot of options back on the table, even if they're
not super likely. That seemed to be off the table
until recently.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Right, Gil, thank you very much, it's good to talk
to you. Thanks for expertise. Gil Barndollar, Senior Fellow or
non resident Fellow at Defense Priorities. Hither I live in Wellington.
I thought that about the tunnel. That's from Wayne. Hither
I thought that too, that's from Tony and on it goes. Listen,
we all thought that, didn't he knows at least he's
honest about the fact that he was trying to get
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get into a quiet place to have a chat to us.
It's twenty past five. Now I've got some good news
for you regarding the economy. New Zealand's manufacturing sector expanded

(44:05):
significantly last month, according to the B and Z Business
New Zealand Performance of Manufacturing Index. Stephen Topless is B
and z's head of research and he's with us. I Stephen, hi,
I'm very well, thank you.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
This is great.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
I mean this is the highest reading since twenty twenty one.
What's driving it?

Speaker 20 (44:24):
Yeah, Look, I think it's a number of things to
be equalis. In fact, between twenty one reading was just
after we bounced back out the depths of COVID, so
that was a bit of a false reading. So you know,
actually go back to twenty seventeen to see another better
than this. I think number of factors. Firstly is manufacturing
has linked heavily to the agriculture sector which is doing
really really well, and the regions which are doing really well.

(44:47):
We've got a low exchange rate, so exports are picking
up quite nicely. Manufacturers have seen or are seeing big
falls and electricity prices which will help the matt and
make feel a bit more comfortable that ongoing production of output.
And they've they've benefited from the fuel prices as well.
So here it's a very good story. It's it's almost

(45:09):
too good to believe, to be quite honest.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
So do you think that the confidence has rebounded because
of that easing? The Iran conflict, and then the question,
of course is what is it going to do now
that the conflict started up again?

Speaker 20 (45:20):
You know, but bear in mind that the p m
I and the PSI, which is sort of a just
equivalent for the services sector. What we're asking people there
is what's actually happening. It's it's not a survey like
the a Z or the QSBO, which is which was
our expectations based. So this is you know, is that
output increasing, Yes, it is a forward orders increasing, Yes

(45:43):
they are, so you know, it is an actually it's
an actual measure of activity rather than expectations. That that
said of things, you know, go and go really badly
in Iran, Iran, in the Middle East. Then relievers can
have an impact eventually.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
I suppose I Stephen, thanks very much, really appreciate the
good news. Stephen Topless, bnzhead of Research. Right, Prince Harry,
let's deal with us five twenty two.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
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Speaker 7 (46:21):
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Speaker 3 (46:29):
I've got an update for you on that ed death
in Wikator Hospital earlier this week. I'll get it to
you shortly. It's five twenty five now, on Harry, you
probably don't need me to tell you this, but it
is already clear, isn't it that Harry's made a huge
mistake taking that case against the parent company of The
Mail newspaper in the UK because the retaliation has started.

Speaker 21 (46:46):
Now.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
The Mail is not going to call it retaliation. I'm
guessing they probably won't admit this is what they're doing,
but it looks an awful lot like it. Overnight, one
day after Harry lost his case against the paper, The
Mail on Sunday's editor at large, Charlotte Griffith's I wrote
a lengthy opinion piece in which she unloaded on Harry. Now,
if you don't remember her, she's the woman who's texts
with Harry about movie snuggles were revealed during the court case. Overnight,

(47:10):
she broke her silence for the first time and she
gave us some more tea. She reckons she was at
a dinner party with Harry and he put a little
white pill on her tongue and said, now I know
I can trust you. She reckons that he admitted to
snorting creatine. Yeah, what you're taking to go to the gym.
He apparently snorted it to energize up for the dance
parties because he was in the army and he was
subject to random drug tests so he couldn't do the

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standard class as. And she said, he's not a joyful
man anymore. Now, none of this is particularly damaging. He's
admitted to doing much more than creatine in his book,
and the white pill, even she says, was probably paracetamol.
But it's the principle. He has made an enemy out
of one of the most powerful newspapers in the UK,
and those newspapers in the UK leave our papers for

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dead in terms of what they will do to hound
people and the impact they will have when they do that.
I always personally feel a little bit sorry for Harry
and instances like this, because he's not particularly bright, right,
everybody knows that, and so you have to assume he
may not have thought this through, may not have realized
what a mistake he was making by taking this court case.
But he's done it now and he's made his bed.
Harry may as well. Forget about ever moving back to

(48:13):
the UK. He's got no security, he's now got no
lodgings with his dad, and now he's also made an
enemy that has already lined him up.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Ever duplesy l okay.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
So've got the rapid review of the death of the
guy in Wycuttle Hospitals ed on Sunday. Basically they are
saying there was nothing anyone could have done for him.
It was an acute unexpected incident, which basically means even
if a doctor was standing next to him, they couldn't
have saved him. But now, and we're scheduled to speak
to Richard Sullivan, one of the Health New Zealand bosses,
just after the news. But now we've also got a

(48:43):
little message through from the Taxpayers Union. It's gone our
little press release. Remember that ex lotto guy, remember old
mate who got charged for the gold smuggling and the
people at the Ministry of Justice who just employed him
kept paying him. Well, hallo, that's not the only taxpayer
money he was getting. New Zealand also paid him after
he was charged. They paid him to do an ad

(49:06):
for childhood immunizations in twenty twenty three. They won't say
how much money They've pulled the ad now, but it's
still up online because you can't rub anything off the internet,
so might ask Richt about that too. Stand by, that's next.
News took zaidb.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
The day's newsweakers talked to Heather first. Heather Duplicy Ellen
drive with One New Zealand and the power of satellite
Mobile new saw said, B.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Yeah has right, California Redwatch Chilly Pittman's why because the
Telstra clock took us back to two thousand insects and
bugged up their network, but it reminded us of an
excellent time. So all the music is two thousand and
sixts because those were good days, were they not? Huddle
is standing by right now. It's twenty four away from
six now. The rapid review into the patient who died
in WAYICUTTL Hospital's ED toilet has now been completed. It

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found that the death it was an acute, unexpected incident
and even if the ED waiting room had been monitored
more thoroughly, the death would not have been preventable. Doctor
Richard Sullivan's Health New Zealand's Clinical Executive National Director, Hi Richard,
Hello the hell are you I'm very well, thank you.
So what does that mean? An acute unexpected incident?

Speaker 22 (50:17):
Yeah, I think either you described it quite well in
the preamble, so really a sudden, unexpected death. And as
you say, the immediate conquer review showed that even had
we monitored more frequently, unfortunately, that wouldn't have changed the.

Speaker 17 (50:32):
Outcome in this case.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Okay, you're not prepared to say anything else say because
the family's asked you not to say anything.

Speaker 22 (50:38):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
But can I assume that he has gone in with
something completely unrelated to what has killed him, and then
in the end he's had a massive heart attack.

Speaker 22 (50:49):
I'm not sure we can assume that was the cause
of death, but I think your assumption that he came
with something and then something else happened as a fear assumption.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
And can I assume if you were saying it was
unexpected that you've done his vitals, you'd.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Hooked him up to the Indeed he did those, we.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Showed nothing, showed nothing that was going to kill him.

Speaker 22 (51:07):
So when he when he arrived, he was triage and
had some assessments undertaken, and then a few hours later
he had a further set of assessments undertaken, including blood tests,
et cetera. And then sadly, as you say, a special
event happened somehow later.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
Can you tell us about the staffing levels.

Speaker 22 (51:27):
Yeah, I can. So it was a it was a
tough day in Wikata on that day. There's a series
of events that occurred. So firstly, it was a busy day,
and ed we get busy days in d Second was
that there was a particular bacteria in a couple of awards.
It's called vre, and that's a bacteria which is resistant
to quite a lot of antibiotics. And so when that occurs,

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we don't have new patients going to those wards until
we've cleaned it thoroughly. That can take several days to
do that, and unfortunately, on that day, two of our
wards were not admitting patients. And then the third issue
on that particular shift was that they were four doctors down,
so they had a doctor's present, but they were four
short from the twelve they had planned to have on

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that day, and that was cause of sickness. The nursing
numbers weren't bad, they were I think one or two
nurses down from their amount of that shift, and that
led to the increased weight times that the following shift
actually was staffed adequately, so the doctor they had appropriate
doctors and nurses, but it was that particular shift that

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was under particular strain.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Now, what do you know about this guy, the old
lotto guy getting paid money by you guys after he'd
been charged for drug for gold smuggling?

Speaker 22 (52:41):
Now I know nothing. Actually, I heard you mentioned that
an introduction and I thought, see that's something else not across.
But I'm sure I'll become across.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Would you though you're the clinical you're the clinical Executive
National Director, I feel it's slightly unfair asking you this question.

Speaker 22 (52:59):
Not paid for my exise.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Well listen, thank you all the same, Thanks very much
for your time. Richard Richard Sullivan Health, New Zealand Clinical
Executive National Director, twenty two away from six the Huddle.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
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Speaker 3 (53:15):
Buddle of us this evening. Thomas Scrimser, Maxim Institute and
Oscar kindly artist and local government politician. Hell are you too?

Speaker 1 (53:21):
You like Thomas?

Speaker 3 (53:22):
Like the lotto guy literally struck lotto, didn't he?

Speaker 23 (53:26):
I mean it's a great gig if you can get
it's what's the career path you go through to get
there in life? Because and obviously not really working out
well from now, but I'm kind of keen on the
gig of getting paid for a few years not doing much.

Speaker 21 (53:38):
I mean you advice you have for.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Me, I don't know. I mean, Oscar, you're in the
entertainment business. How do you become a lot o guy
then do some gold smuggling and then do nothing for
five years but get paid sweet tax pay.

Speaker 5 (53:48):
Well, it was because he just got that job right
with the Justice Department, and oh that's the end. Then
there was but I think there weren't much. There wasn't
much they could do because there's that old thing called,
you know, the presumption of it has still proven guilty,
and I don't know if they could have suspended him
assuming he was guilty. So I think it's a shame
that it took it stretched out for five years. But

(54:10):
I know Russell and you know he's I it was
sad to hear that he had made this mistake in Okay.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Oscar Now, yeah, I wish.

Speaker 5 (54:21):
Him all the best as he as he comes back
from this. It's it's it's pretty.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Sad because what he did. I mean, like I reckon
if somebody said to me, bro, meet me in a cemetery,
I'm going to give you hundreds of thousands of dollars
and then I want you to get some gold, and
then I want you to fly to Turkey and give
it to the chap that runs the common cerros or whatever.
I'd probably got this I might get in trouble. Is
he naive or all desperately?

Speaker 5 (54:45):
Yeah, I think I think a combination of of of
all those things. Possibly. I think you know, I'm no
expert psychologists, but imagine at a time like this, your
your mind tends to be fixated on what you're imagining
to happen, rather than looking at the reality that's right

(55:05):
in front of you. And I am very sad for
Russell and his family and he's I do still consider
him a mate, and I hope he he you know,
he takes his punishment and still comes back from this.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
It's tough tough thing to get in trouble for now, Thomas,
were you surprised at all to find out that most
of the roads of national significance have not been funded
and will probably not be built anytime soon.

Speaker 23 (55:28):
No, it wasn't a surprise, and so then I've been
kind of sitting here today wondering, well, what do I
do with that information? It seemed like, you know, a
ludicrously ambitious promise at the election, they say what They're
going to build a large number of unaffordable infrastructure projects
and got in. And then now they're kind of gone
through the process and we're not going to get them all.
Now they're backing down from stuff they count forward like

(55:50):
a good thing, but they promised it.

Speaker 21 (55:52):
I don't know how do we actually get past this
when you'll make promises.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
And then I feel a little bit like you do on.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
This, Thomas, which is I kind of knew at the
time that all of it wasn't going to happen because
it wasn't possible. But I did ask Chris Bishop so
many times about that mount for tunnel, and he really
tried to mislead me into believing that it was going
to happen. And there's a part of me that does
feel a little bit, so tiny bit disappointed about that.

Speaker 6 (56:18):
Yeah, and you.

Speaker 5 (56:19):
Should be and you should be here that it was
an extraordinary admission. I thought it was kind of a
polite way of saying, Okay, we were kind of lying,
and you know, five months from an election, when you
know they'll be coming out with more promises, you know,
and we still have no fairies three years later, you know,
to cover that big bit of road between the North

(56:40):
and the South Island. And it will kind of make
you I think, I think it will make voters thing
twice before they believe anything that comes out of their mouths,
you know, in the next few months. Or it should
because that's because that's a huge thing that they promised
and then didn't deliver.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
But then, Oscar, I find myself only a little disappointed,
kind of like you know when you think one of
your children's kicked the other child and you say, did
you kack mackay and and you go tell me the
truth and I won't get cross with you, and then
he goes, yeah I did, and you go, okay. It
kind of takes this thing out of it when they
face up and faced up.

Speaker 5 (57:14):
Yeah, but yeah, but we should yeah, I guess so.
But we hold them to a higher standard. They're the government.
And you know, I would I would rather be saying
I would rather be you know, I would rather you know,
we're all adults. We can handle the fact that we
have less money, so we have to think more and
and and I hate that the electorates still get sucked

(57:34):
in by these grandias promises that they don't materialize.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (57:40):
Well, from the other.

Speaker 23 (57:41):
Side, Oscar, you say, we're all adults, and I think
that's probably why we're taking the wrong approach here. I
think either, if you've got politicians making grand promises about
what they build, what you need to do is, like,
you know, make them sign up to a promise if
they don't deliver.

Speaker 21 (57:55):
And it can't be money. We can't get them to gamble.

Speaker 23 (57:57):
But we say, you know, if you can't deliver this
project in the timeframe you promised, to sit in a
chair with a Dunce camp by where you said it
would be for twenty four hours, you know, we get
Chris Betcher.

Speaker 21 (58:07):
Yeah, buy me Victoria, so sit there in a chair
for a day because you see you do it and
you haven't.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
Or even or even just get him to do an
Instagram video and which she said, I lied to you all,
and then we can just watch it every time. We
feel like punishing him a little bit, because that's quite
big punishment for a politician. I'd be okay with that.
All right, let's take a break. Come back to these guys.
Shortly sixteen away from Sixto.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
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Speaker 3 (58:33):
Of the Huddle, by the way, thirteen away from six
Thomas Scrimger and Oscar Kiteley. Oscar explain something to me.
So we've got the US striking Iran again, and everybody's
crossed with Trump for starting this up again. But from
where I'm sitting, it looks like a ran started this
up again by striking the three vessels first.

Speaker 5 (58:49):
Maron, Well, yeah, I mean that is one way. But
I never quite bought into the cease fire because it
was never both sides sitting in the same room smiling
at the death, shaking hands and saying this is what
we've agreed on. It's always been President Trump's version, and
there was like I think thirty eight times where he
said it was finished, and that was before the cease fire.

(59:11):
So I always kind of, even though I was hopeful,
I always thought that it was something shaky and I
was just waiting for the next kind of turn in
the news event, you know, because they never both presented
at United Front and said we have agreed, this is
us together signing this and this is going to be
a thing that never happened. So you know, I didn't

(59:32):
bite in the first place.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Is fair enough, did you, Thomas?

Speaker 5 (59:36):
No?

Speaker 21 (59:36):
I was also pretty pessimistic.

Speaker 23 (59:38):
And then even in the kind of alleged terms of
the agreement, they hadn't figured out all the tough questions anyway,
what's happening with the nuclear program? You know, which intensibly
this is all about. So you know, I think you're right.
It would be wrong to blame Trump specifically for the
latest flare up intensions. But it does go back to
the original sin of the war, which was what was

(59:59):
the plan? There was an actual strategy in place for
what a victory could look like here obviously regime is bad.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Was that there wasn't an outcome that he well, at
least if there was an outcome that he was looking for,
we do not. We don't know what it was.

Speaker 7 (01:00:12):
Well, no, maybe.

Speaker 5 (01:00:16):
Maybe it was to distract us from the from the
football they're embarrassing lost to Belgium after his lobbying of FIFA.
Didn't really work. So you've always got to look at
the timing of these things here there and again, how
does this event connectedly?

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Joking because so anyway, Thomas, we talked over you. What
were you saying? Sorry?

Speaker 23 (01:00:39):
Oh, I think they've had several, you know, alleged reasons
for why they were going to you know, going to
war with Iran.

Speaker 21 (01:00:45):
It was initially early on they were kind of.

Speaker 23 (01:00:47):
Talking about regime change briefly, you know, the nuclear program
was the concern. And the problem is is that that
they've had great tactical successes. The American military is very
good at what it does, but there wasn't a strategy.
There wasn't a plan for what would good look like.
So we just find ourselves back here because the original
problem still remains.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
There wasn't a plan too right now, Oscar, how much
trouble do you reckon Harry is in with the Mail?

Speaker 15 (01:01:11):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:01:12):
I mean, it's a big come down, isn't it. But
I read also today that even before at the trial,
that they were looking to settle. But that was in
the Daily Mail, so I wasn't sure if it was true.
I do hope I do have something changes though, I
just you know, I mean, I don't know if it
was true or not. You know, it was a crazy time,

(01:01:32):
that whole news of the world time years.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
You know, the Daily Mail is the best day. You know,
it's the best. Like the best journalists and I'm not
going to name names, but some of the best journalists
in this country go to the Daily Mail first because really,
oh yeah, because these guys just cut it out of
the park all the time, the first to break the news.
They've got the great angles, they've got the scoops. He
he's in big trouble when they come to him, don't

(01:01:55):
you reckon to us?

Speaker 8 (01:01:57):
Oh?

Speaker 23 (01:01:57):
I think he's in big trouble. I don't know if
it gives me any joy ways to see it. You know,
Harry is a troubled guy and just seems pretty unhappy.
I don't know why you'd take the Daily Mail to
court over this, And clearly they've come back hitting hard.
So yeah, I don't think he's got a winning hand
to play against them.

Speaker 21 (01:02:16):
I mean, what could he do?

Speaker 23 (01:02:18):
Daily Mails? And clearly Harry's got himself in a lot
of trouble.

Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
Have either of you read his book Spare? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:02:25):
Have you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Was?

Speaker 5 (01:02:28):
It was kind of one long wine. It took months, so,
you know, I think for all the people that backed him,
I would have done some due diligence and read the
book first. But I mean, he's still he's still living
in la you know, he's still got his beautiful wife
and family and he doesn't even live there anymore. So

(01:02:50):
I think he'll be able to escape any pending trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Yeah, well, as long as he stays there, guys, thank
you very much. Oh by the way, what are you
guys doing for the long weekend? You Thomas, what are
you doing?

Speaker 23 (01:03:00):
I am studying on the side of my jobs. I'm
trying to write a dissertation that's due next week on
what no fun for me?

Speaker 21 (01:03:08):
What is it on?

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
Thomas?

Speaker 21 (01:03:10):
New Zealand fiscal policy during the Great Depression and why
the Minister of Finance resigned?

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
Which minister resigned?

Speaker 23 (01:03:18):
William Downey Stewart Junior resigned and protest because the government
was going to devalue the currency.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Oh wow was he right to do that?

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Wow?

Speaker 21 (01:03:26):
Oh yeah, I reckon he was right so and just
kind of put my big pension here.

Speaker 5 (01:03:30):
You know.

Speaker 23 (01:03:31):
It was the reform United Government that got us through
the depression before before Labor was elected when economic growth returned.
So it's a really interesting era of history and a
forgotten New Zealand's statesman.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
I'm so looking forward to finding out more about him.
In Oscar, what's the dissertation that you're writing this weekend?

Speaker 5 (01:03:50):
To this weekend, I'll be resting, tiding the house and
also taking a moment to remember loved ones have passed on.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
Oh that is actually what you' suppose to do it Matteki. Guys,
thanks very much, I appreciate it. Look out yourselves, enjoy
the long weekend. Thomas Scrimger, Maxim Institute, Oscar Kitely Artists,
local government politician. Eight away from six, it's the Heather Too.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
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Speaker 21 (01:04:17):
Hither.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
I love the convo of let them reflect in the
naughty corner about their mistake. That's bang on from all
the commentators. There's just no accountability on any side. It's
sad to rely on people pointing it out to them.
That's basically democracy. So if you're really angry about the
roads of national significance, if you're really cross about it,
the only way that you can actually deal with it
is by through the vote at the ballot box. Actually

(01:04:39):
hither I don't understand Mount Victor.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Do you know?

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
I've thought about this so many times. MOUNTVC Tunnel was
built almost one hundred years ago using shovels and wheelbarrows.
Given technological advancement, apparently technically challenging. Pity the original tunnel
builders have all passed away. Otherwise we could have got
them to build it. I've wandered. Am I the only
person who does? Sometimes I sit there and go, how
can make it? Build it with basically their bare hands
about one hundred and fifty years ago, And nowadays we've

(01:05:02):
got all these flash drills and stuff, and it's harder. Now,
how does that work? They've understood it had By the way,
speaking of old stuff, do you know the bucket tree
in Tawer. This tree has just won the New Zealand
Tree of the Year twenty twenty six, which, yeah, was
a surprise to me that this competition exists as well. Anyway,
the tree, if you don't know what I'm talking about
it it's been around since the eighteen fifties and it

(01:05:26):
has like an upturned bucket. It's cut into an upturned bucket.
Two things to know First of all, did you know
the tree was there since the eighteen fifties? No, me, neither.
But also did you know that they have been trimming
it into the shape of an upturned bucket since eighteen
seventy nine? Like this is astounding. We haven't done anything
for how long is that? That's one hundred and forty years.

(01:05:47):
One hundred and forty five years. We haven't done anything
consistently for one hundred and forty five years. But apparently
they've trimmed this tree. And now it all makes sense
because when they say it's the bucket tree and you
look at it, you go, it's not really like a bucket,
is it? Like a bucket nowadays is just straight sides,
but it looks more like if you can imagine a
Bobby's hat, you know, and when and you got old,
that's right, because that's what a bucket looked like in

(01:06:09):
the eighteen seventies. Anyway, there you go. It's a fun fact.
You didn't know. So anyway, final placings number one the
bucket tree and tower number two the Sangro Survivor, and
put a Kobe pockey hard number three old golf in hopsymbol.
There are what's this one then Nesian mystic?

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
Is it yep.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
Nesian mystic? If it's cool, because two thousand and six
is cool today apparently. Straight after news, let's have a
chat to Cam George. They're doing the cool thing with
dream World. Everybody's loving it. You can get into dream
World for cheap if you've got a Kiwi passport. Stand
by for that News dogs, they'd.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Be thread what's We're business? Who meets Insight? The Business

(01:07:21):
Hour with Heather Duplessy Allen and Mas Insurance and Investments.
Your futures in good hands? News talks. There be.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
Even in coming up in the next hour. Hamish McKay
is going to talk us through a new milk payment
at the Farmer's. Sam Dickey on Microsoft cutting all of
those jobs announced this week, and of course end Brady
out of the UK will have a chat toim about
Prince Harry as well when he's with us. At seven
past six now, the dream World theme park on the
Gold Coast is getting a key we make over ahead
of the Warriors taking on the Titans next month. Dream

(01:07:51):
World will transform into WA's World. Is basically a big
pop up where the rides and the mascots will be
decked out on Warriors theming and you can grab some
merch or can give away. Cameron George is the CEO
of the Warriors and with us. Hi Cam, Hi, Heather.
Are you just back from Sydney?

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
Are you No?

Speaker 15 (01:08:08):
I'm in Sydney. You're in the Gold Coast yesterday and
I'm in Sydney today and everybody our game here tomorrow night.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
Oh how are you feeling for that?

Speaker 24 (01:08:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Very good.

Speaker 15 (01:08:18):
The boys have just landed and you know they're trained
well this week and really need to go make tomorrow
night's game count, So looking forward to it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
Do you know if Jerome Luay is going to be
on the park tomorrow given them? Have you seen the
news about him just now?

Speaker 6 (01:08:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:08:33):
Well he's been named. It looks like he might be
there next year, but I don't know what's going on there,
but he has been named to play tomorrow night because
the news.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
Is I mean I haven't even talked about this on
any but the news is that he's getting led out
of the contract early because he's off to the p
ANDNG Chiefs. But that's only twenty eight, so what's he
going to do for twenty seven?

Speaker 5 (01:08:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:08:52):
I'm not sure. If you've read the headlines, obviously you're right.
He could be going early next year and he might
just have to have a stopover at another club for
a year and head to P and G after that.
But I'll let the Tigers worry about that. We have
enough on our plate.

Speaker 14 (01:09:08):
Do we want to No, we're gonna.

Speaker 15 (01:09:11):
We're fine with who we have and where we're moving
forward with.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
That's a no, thanks very much, all right now, this
Dream World partnership is cool. Did they come to you?
You go to them.

Speaker 15 (01:09:22):
We've done a little bit with them in the past,
just you know, just in the background, and then we
just started having further discussions earlier this year, and I
was really keen to try and test the market and
put our brand there and really challenge them as to
what they can do for us. And when we sat
down and talked, there seemed to be no barriers to

(01:09:43):
their thinking. So I threw out the War's World and
they said, yeah, let's do it. And they've never ever
rebranded their park in its history. But leading into our
game on the first of August on the Gold Coast
against the Titans, it's going to be all things wis
at Wild World, So yeah, looking forward to it, do.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
You I mean, I can see obviously there's heaps of
branding for you, Like, there's the branding opportunity. Do you
get any money from it?

Speaker 15 (01:10:06):
Well, there's a lot of ways you measure it, Heather, Yeah,
of course there's a commercial arrangement. But the PR and
the cut through Local was on Channel nine Free to
Wear last night in Australia about the announcement. And it's
massive that a park, probably Australia's most biggest and most
popular theme park, is changing its name to support a

(01:10:26):
rugby league club. You know, nearly every family in Australia
is connected historically to that park, so to be a
part of that landscape is massive for us. PR was
and it allows our fans to come here and have
a second home on the Gold Coast, to enjoy family
and friends, and that's awesome and to be able to
do that with them, really proud of the partnership with

(01:10:47):
dream Worll.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
But what's remarkable about it is it's not Rainbow's End,
do you know what I mean? Like, this is a
park in Australia, So what does this say about the
Australian attitude towards the Warriors.

Speaker 15 (01:10:57):
Yeah, it's huge, you know, it's it's a real privilege
to be in this position where we're at with our
brand and you know there's fifty five hectares of you know,
rides and just family connection experiences and they want the
Warriors to be a part of that because they see
us as a really credible and trustworthy brand both in

(01:11:18):
Australia and New Zealand. So yeah, it's really it's a
real privilege for our footay club.

Speaker 8 (01:11:25):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
I spoke to Sophie Maloney yesterday and it was just
after you got off the phone from her and she
cu you were pretty stoked to stay on Sky.

Speaker 5 (01:11:32):
Is that a fact?

Speaker 15 (01:11:34):
Yeah, Look, it's Sophie's such a great leader and you know,
I was just so happy that they got the rights again.
You know, they're great partner of our footy club and
just the connection we have with them and what we've
built over the last few years have been right on
this journey with us and to have them now extended
for another seven years is going to be great for
Rubia League and New Zealand. And I know Sophie's got

(01:11:54):
big plans and I love hearing her ambitious vision and
I want to be them. We implement it with her.
So really stoked for Sky and Sophie particular.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
Oh god on you, hey, listen, enjoy the game over
the weekend, and I hope you guys do well, Cameron
George worries Or is chief Executive. Yeah, a little bit
of bad news for you. Unfortunately, the bank floating rates
have gone up. West Pac and keir we Bank both
jumped them up twenty five basis points to reflect what
the Reserve Bank did yesterday. This is just the floating
stuff rot right. So the fixed I think the consensus
is fixed rates probably won't move that much because the

(01:12:27):
increase that we saw yesterday has already been priced into
the wholesale rates, so fingers crossed for that. Here the
numbers for you ens it X fifty is up almost
a percentage point today ASX fifty is down almost half
a percentage point so far today, a barrel of Brent
crude is costing seventy eight US dollars. That's down half
a percentage point. One New Zealand dollar is worth fifty
seven US cents, eighty three sens, fifty euro cents, forty

(01:12:49):
three UK pens and ninety three Yen Hamich McKay's with
us next thirteen past Hither the same reason, read the
Wellington Tunnel workers, is also why the USA hasn't gone
back to the Moon. Hod On, Are you saying the
same reason that we can't build a second Wellington tunnel
as quickly as they built the first Wellington tunnel is
the same reason why the USA can't go back to
I thought the reason the USA can't go back to

(01:13:09):
the Moon is because they didn't go the first time.
It was all made up. All right, there's a real
tunnel there. I don't get it. It's sixteen past six.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
The Rural Report with Farmlands Rural never rests, and neither
is Farmlands.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Amus mckaye, Host of the Countries with Oslo Hamish, Hello, Heather,
all right, what's the weather doing that's worrying you now?

Speaker 20 (01:13:30):
Yeah, Well, just following on from that sort of onslaught
through the whole Kai Kura region, you know, there's some
reasonably learned types of some pretty heavy warnings through that
sort of the wider Rapper up into the Hawk's Bay
and right through the tight after they on the east coast.
So look, it seems to be never ending at the moment,
and you know, we've seen a little bit late to

(01:13:51):
the piece the pictures that we saw out of the
South Wider Apple last weekend, and we've seen what's happened
in kaike Kura. So just thinking of those people at
the moment because there's probably unfortunately more to come out
the next twenty four to forty eight hours.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
Yeah, i'd imagine. So, hey, what's going on with the
plowing World Champs team?

Speaker 20 (01:14:07):
Well, we're pretty proud nation when it comes to plowing
that we've got our two competitors, Mark Dylan and Malcolm Taylor,
who sent their tractors, their plows, you know, their uniforms,
their parts up in a shipping container up to Croatia
for September's World Chance. But unfortunately this ended up taking
the scenic route and we're not even actually sure where

(01:14:28):
the container is, but it's certainly not on the right
ocean to get them there sort of for late July
early August so they can be ready. So the shipping
company is basically we're not really sure got offloaded in Sydney.
I mean plowing using somebody else's plower is a bit
like using somebody else's toothbrush. So it's not really you know,
these guys they need their equipment, and of course we've

(01:14:50):
got the twenty twenty nine World Champs here too, so
this won't give the Europeans much confidence about coming down
logistically to New Zealand to compete either. So yeah, just
feeling for Mark and Malcolm and all the people concerned
there because you know you I mean, you couldn't you know,
you couldn't air freight it unless the government's got a
spare plane out of a Harky or something. But yeah,
so tough for them.

Speaker 21 (01:15:09):
They're pretty pretty shattered by the If you're in.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
The plowing World Champs, what are they measuring you on?
Is it how fast you plow? How straight you plow?

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
What is it? Well?

Speaker 20 (01:15:19):
You so like it's it's the neatness of your you
know of how you turn that soil over and there
are it's a bit like sheeps hearing. There is quality, speed,
final product and everything, but you know that ability they
they these guys fine tune the furrows on their plows.
You know that, whether it's one to for how many,

(01:15:40):
how many furrows you have on it? You know that
turning over the soil in a line at one time,
but they do. You know, it's it's pretty yeah, it's
it is speed, although I don't think speed always wins,
but you know, the ability to adapt to the soil
types and you know, different parts of the world. So
it's pretty you know, pretty intense and it requires a
lot of fine tuning.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
I bet, I bet not anything that I knew that
we were champs off before. Hey, what's up with this
app for the milk?

Speaker 20 (01:16:07):
Yeah, just just keeping on with our sort of theme
of innovation week on the country this week. You know,
there's a new one out from a company UK based
company who've been running a pilot and he's going to
call called Nico and it's a look, it's a it's
a it's a really good thing for for dairy cockies
to be able to fix a physical milk price on
any business day on an app. So you go, look,
I want to put X, Y number leakeds whatever at

(01:16:29):
this price. I know what I'm going to get. You can,
you know, you can determine the volume. And I guess
it's just an ability to heach their bets even more
and know what they're actually going to get rather than
waiting to the end of the season. To know what
they're sort of their numbers are, so they can can
do some real budgeting and you can mix it up

(01:16:50):
a bit. You can go right, I'm going to take
this price on this day without amount of volume. And
it just goes to say, there you are standing on
the farm with the phone in your hand on apps
selling your milk right there, and then that's.

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
Pretty cool A Hamish thanks very much, enjoying a long weekend, mate,
Hamus Mackay, Host of the Country. I'm speaking of doing
things with the land. Chris Luxeen's brought himself a robotic
lawn mower. I mean, you know, there's plowing and then
there's mowing your mowing your back garden and mowing your
lawn and I presume par now. I don't know. It
looks like it looks like a par now backyard, didn't it. Anyway,

(01:17:24):
He revealed that he was doing a public meeting in
farga Day a couple of nights ago, Tuesday night, and
he said he was there a couple of years earlier
and he saw seven robotic lawnmowers. I'm guessing they were
out doing out the front of the stadium that he
was in and he was really impressed with him. So
he went home and said to Amanda, Amanda, can I
believe of a robotic lawn mower? And so Amanda said yes,
So he's got the robotic lawn mower. So he's pretty stoked,

(01:17:46):
like he stoked enough about it to go and tell people.
And I understand that because I bought a robotic pool cleaner,
and I know somebody else. We both called our robotic
pool cleaner's Robbie, which, to be fair, is probably what
the lawn mowers called as well. All the row called Robbie.
What a game changer. It's awesome. Goes down there like
I'm not talking about the lawnmow now obviously I don't

(01:18:07):
have one of those. I'm talking about the pool cleaner,
goes up the sides of the pool, brushes it all nicely, down,
goes along the bottom, picks up all the cars that
Iggy's thrown in, because why not, gets it all in
for me, picks up all the leaves and stuff like that.
One of my friends has got a robotic vacuum cleaner,
and she talks about it more than is healthy. She
makes herself a cocktail and puts on the robotic vacuum,
just to watch it work, just to watch the robots.

(01:18:29):
If you do not have a robot in your life,
you need a robot in your life. It's it, really, honestly,
that is I am trying to help with the productivity
of this country. That's right. I bought myself a robot
so I don't have to do it because you know
it's going to be me who's doing it.

Speaker 23 (01:18:43):
You know, you know it's me who's doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
Six twenty one, it's the Heather Topers Alan Drive Full
Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered my News Talk zebby If
it's to do with money, it matters to you, The
Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and Mas Insurance and investments,
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Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Heather, as long as you don't replace your husband with
Bob the battery operated boyfriend. Well, robots are in. Robots
are in, hey. So on the theme of candidate selection,
the Michael Laws thing continues to dog me. I honestly
didn't think when I piped up with what I thought
about Michael Laws that this would turn into a saga. Anyway.

(01:19:30):
Lovely old Audrey Young has done her piece her weekly
newsletter on politics, and there's a section there entitled Michael
Law's v Women. Let me read it to you. The
two strongest reactions to the announcement that Michael Laws would
be running for New Zealand. First we're from newstalkszb's Heather
Duplicy Allen, who said in her herald on Sunday column
that it was desperate to be resurrecting a politician from
last year. And Andrea a vance and a withering piece

(01:19:52):
in the Sunday Star Times where she dubbed Winston Peter's
candidates a toxic Mannisphere and an algorithmic collection of outrage
merchant culture, war hobbyists and men convinced Western society is
on the brink of collapse and there are only one
home homemade podcast away from saying it. This week, Laws
hit back at critics during a show on the platform
where he is an Internet broadcaster. He suggested they were

(01:20:14):
in perpetual menopause. At least be accurate, it's perry menopause
at this stage, rude in perpetual peri menopause. For commentary,
he could only ascribe to an antipityan equivalent of trumped
arrangement syndrome. No, mate, no one's got Michael Law's arrangement syndrome.
You're not that important lord, and being liberal lovies of
inner city Auckland and Wellington, who despise anyone who doesn't live.

(01:20:37):
That's what they say about me. They say, she cycle way,
cycle lane loving liberal lovey. That's what they say about me,
don't they They go, she's going to vote for the Greens. Yeah,
settle down, Michael. At the risk of annoying the Sisterhood,
I would say New Zealand Firs could do a lot
worse than getting Michael Laws back into Parliament. Having observed
his work closely last century, he was a formidable political operator. Yes,

(01:20:58):
he can be offensive in the way that he expresses
his views, but he is a thinker and is more
than willing to engage with people he disagrees with, usually
in a civil manner. By the way, he wrote one
of the most amusing political memoirs ever produced in New Zealand,
Demon Profession. By the Way, I own that and read
that when I was eighteen years old. I think aroundabout
quite enjoyed it. May have to reread it. Actually, it's
been a few because when I was eighteen, Obviously I

(01:21:19):
wasn't perimenopausal, and now I am. And I've forgotten the
whole book, but I will go and reread it and
enjoy it like the first time. Six twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
There's no business like show business.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
Like I mis guide to see. Time to unwind with
a long weekend. Here's what's waiting for you to watch
this Mausceta Ki on Netflix. There's the new Little House
on the Prairie reboot. It drops tonight. Also a multi
part documentary series Docuseriies on the Burning Man Festival on
HBO Max, which could actually be quite good. Got some
new music. Adam Lambert has released a new album self
title called Adam Rock's Longest Lasting Band. The Rolling Stones

(01:21:53):
have new music too. It's called Foreign Tongues. It's their
twenty fifth studio album and it's got Paul McCartney and
Robert Smith and Steve Winwood on it. Big ticket, though,
is at the movies. A new installment in the Evil
Dead franchise, evilbed Rise is in cinemas now. Also Mowana
for the kids now. This is not the animated Disney
movie from twenty sixteen. Disney decided it needed a live

(01:22:14):
action remake, So yeah, sure, I mean, it's only ten
years old, apparently needs a reboot. We could debate that
still probably will do quite well because the original Mwana
became one of the most streamed movies on any platform.
Actually it was the most streamed in twenty twenty three.
Mwana two made over a billion dollars last year. The
live action remake has Jermaine Clement returning as Tamatour and

(01:22:35):
Duane Johnson returning as Mawi, and there's also a new Mowana.
She's going to be played by the Aussie actress Katherine Lungaya.
She beat out thirty two thousand other girls in an
open audition to score the role. And this is her
singing Mwana's main song, how Far I'll Go?

Speaker 17 (01:22:51):
What's beyond that Line?

Speaker 21 (01:22:52):
When I crossed the line?

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
She saw this at the movies the other day in
one of the little previous things could be quite good,
I thought, Wayne Johnson when I saw her, I thought, oh,
look at that Jason mom alway. He looks old nowadays. Well,
but it's not Jason, is it. It's the rock That's
why he looks old. Sam Dickie's going to be with
us next We'll talk to him about Microsoft cutting five
thousand jobs and saying AI is changing how we get

(01:23:16):
work done. News Talks eb.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
Approaching the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather duper
c Allen on the Business Hour with maths, insurance and investments,
Your futures in good hands, News Talks mb head. He
actually goes for racking tours.

Speaker 3 (01:23:41):
But this two thousand and six apparently is cool. People
are weird, ah, so I reckon. Look, some of the
weirdest people are like hardcore fans of celebrities, and in
this case, the hardcore fans of Taylor Swift who have
there's an artist that's gone around about twenty four hours
after her wedding in New York Central, New York and
pick just picked up the trash on the ground. People

(01:24:01):
have paid for little bits of the trash, paid about
forty three New Zealand dollars about twenty five US dollars,
just random things like a water bottle cap ring, pop
candy which is like a ring you pull on your
finger and suck, probably because you're high, police caution tape,
straws utensils, one left AirPod in maybe in the vein

(01:24:23):
hope that I don't know, somebody famous Stephen Colbeer touched
that particular straw. People are so strange, you don't know.
Might have been just the bum down the road who
touched that straw, and now you own it and you
paid money for it. More Full view twenty three Away
from seven. Microsoft, as we were discussing earlier this week,
is just cut almost five thousand jobs and reckons AI

(01:24:44):
is changing how work gets done. Sam Dicky from Fisher
Funds is with us.

Speaker 24 (01:24:47):
Hello, Sam, Hey, Yeah, there was just chuckling about your
Tata Swift story there.

Speaker 3 (01:24:51):
Have you ever paid anything that dune?

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
No, I don't think I would that. I've actually I
ripped a poster off a wall once. It was Tim
Finn's GEG. I was about seventeen years old. That's probably
the dumbest thing I've done.

Speaker 24 (01:25:04):
You didn't pay for it, though, No, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:25:06):
I did pay to go to the concert though, so
more for me anyway. Now Microsoft, some people are saying
Microsoft are blaming it on Ai. Is AI really taking
the jobs here?

Speaker 17 (01:25:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 24 (01:25:16):
They were adding around ten thousand people a year for
thirteen years, and then that flat line last year and
now this headline about four thousand and eight hundred job
cuts does feed that AI taking jobs narrative, But most
of those cuts were in the Xbox division, about eighty
percent of them, which was massively bloated with fourteen fourteen

(01:25:37):
layers of management, and they've been struggling to its PlayStation
and Nintendo And some of this was just overdue indigestion
from the post COVID overhiring that a lot of tech
companies did. The real story, I think is is this
capex cannibalization. So we know that, you know, big text
being mudding in the waters by spending massive capecks, as
we've talked about many times, and they have to fund

(01:25:58):
it from somewhere that the market's running out of patience
and sadly people are the easiest cost savings. But bigger picture,
I think most long term forecast suggests AI creates more
jobs than it destroys.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
Oh really, how explain to me?

Speaker 24 (01:26:15):
Well, the type of jobs are AI engineers, machine learning specialist,
data scientists, AI infrastructure engineers. None of those jobs existed,
by the way when I left university heither, but there
is chatter about a wage gap developing, so it's sort
of a two tiered wage structure, So the skilled AI
practitioners they command premium salaries while everyone else stagnates, which

(01:26:37):
is some of the bearish more bearish people are saying
that's inequality on steroids. But I think history shows that education, retraining,
and labor markets are quickly so we will see there.

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
So the companies that have automated, are they getting more efficient?

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
Though?

Speaker 24 (01:26:53):
That's actually super interesting. So AI is definitely making companies
more productive, But the biggest efficient gains that have been
proven to be coming from combining AI with human expertise,
not replacing people entirely. And in fact, Forester and Gardner
too big tech research firms reckon. Many firms regret cutting
people to fund AI because these firms are losing institutional

(01:27:16):
knowledge that's nearly impossible to rebuild. And in fact they
think twenty twenty seven will be the crunch year where
firms will be forced to quietly rehire up to half
half of the AI attributed layoffs because operational systems are degrading,
which would be a super painful u turn for management teams.

Speaker 3 (01:27:34):
Okay, what does this mean for investors?

Speaker 24 (01:27:36):
Well, remember our chat last week. This bigger picture, this
is not about filling that Sorry, this is not about
stealing jobs. This is about filling looming labor shortages. So
three hundred million working age population shrinkage over the next
twenty five years. But I do think the real winners
might be companies that have kept their experience management teams,
kept their cultures intact, and are improving their performance with AI,

(01:27:59):
so they'll have institutional knowledge, team morale and the ability
to deploy AI without the chaos of losing key people.

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
Yeah, a very good point that you make, Sam. Thank
you very much appreciated, Sam Dickie for your funds. Enjoy
your long weekend twenty away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
Together due to see Allen you want to hear I reckon.

Speaker 3 (01:28:15):
This is the most awkward thing that happened on TV
in the world last night, in the last twenty four hours.

Speaker 7 (01:28:20):
Let's say so.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
This was on Newsnight. Okay, the News Night. It's a
really big show over in the BBC. They were interviewing.
It was a serious panel discussion. They had four people
sitting there, two anchors, two lady anchors, and then in
the middle to survive what they call survivors of Epstein
who'd come forward with allegations about Andrew mount Batten Windsor
and they're chatting to them about their experiences. Listen to
the one of the anchors just piping up to just

(01:28:41):
throw something in there. So we would encourage anyone please
if you've got any information to come forward to us.
And these are British, they are British.

Speaker 5 (01:28:48):
Yeah, okay, and we should accept through you was a
war hero.

Speaker 3 (01:28:50):
We should just throw that in.

Speaker 5 (01:28:53):
Thank you, Alex Savis shows, Lisa Philip, thank you very.

Speaker 4 (01:28:57):
Much for being with us this evening.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
What that was Kate Burley just just throwing in there.
Here's a war hero, just apropos of absolutely nothing. So
what being a war hero does not give you a
license to be a creep? And oh the body language.
You've got to go and look at it. The body
language is just mm hmm. Okay, Now I love This
is a weird admission to you. But sometimes when the
online newspapers print, they don't always, but sometimes they put

(01:29:22):
the letters to the editors up and I love them.
I always go and read the letters to the editor.
My takeaway from the letters to the editor is always
people are so much smarter than we think they are.
Just your average punter out there who reads the newspaper
and goes, you know, I'm going to just pipe up
about this really bright. This one in the post in
Wellington nails it our government, This, Paul bird Mirama writes.

(01:29:45):
Our government condemns China's submarine launched missile test in the
South Pacific, Winston Peters, calling it deeply concerning and an
unwelcome development. The region should not sit by and allow
such tests to become normalized or routine. The missile married
a dummy warhead, it landed in open ocean, harmed no one,
and was fired by a country not at war with anyone.

(01:30:07):
Compare that to the government's response when the United States
and Israel launched actual missiles at Iran, missiles that killed
hundreds of people, among them children at school. There was
no equivalent condemnation. Instead, the government's statement acknowledged the strikes
and said they were designed to prevent a ran from
threatening international peace and security. God on you, Paul, you
nailed it now. I don't love other I'm not making

(01:30:28):
excuses for anybody here. All I'm pointing out is that
US collectively losing our minds about China firing that missiles,
probably going a little bit overboard because I'm Chris Pink
today said it is not normal. Well, Chris, despite the
fact you say it is not normal, it's about to
become very normal because they're going to start doing it
all the time. Scott A, but weird about that one,
didn't we Seventeen Away from seven Ender, Brady's with us.

Speaker 1 (01:30:49):
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on my Heart Radio powered by Newstalk ZBI. Whether it's macro,
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Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
Hither did you know that a young former Southland girl
went to Taylor Swift's wedding. She has a job involved
working with Taylor's husband's sports team. Never knew that. Thanks
for the intel. Fourteen Away from seven Indo, Brady is
our UK correspondent this evening high Ender. Hey Heather, great
to speak to you again, right, So, what did you
make of trumpet NATO? That was unhinged, wasn't it?

Speaker 14 (01:31:30):
It was, but it wasn't as bad as it could
have been. That's pretty much the vibe. Look NATO still exists,
they're still together. And the buzz phrase that everyone was
coming out with as he was jetting off was a
stronger Europe, a stronger NATO. So I think it's a
more European NATO. Look, they started spending money like never
before and the bottom line is eleven percent increase on

(01:31:53):
European defense spending in NATO in twenty twenty six. Eleven
percent increase. So look, not the he'll ever be happy
with Europe, but they're dancing to his tune.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
I guess how's.

Speaker 3 (01:32:04):
Everybody feeling about Mark Rutter because it feels to me
like he's walking a really fine line here where he
manages to be the Trump whisper, but then he also
crosses over into looking like a Trump apologist.

Speaker 14 (01:32:15):
But at the same time he's getting the job done.
And I think it's I don't know how it's working,
but somehow it is. And I watched the other day,
you know Trump, he took the news conference, and for
every ten words, I'd say Trump was saying eight and
the Rutter was getting maybe one and a half to two.
But look, he's treading a very fine line. I think

(01:32:36):
he's done a great job so far. But look he's
keeping the alliance together, keeping the Americans on board. And yeah,
I felt sorry for the Spanish. Actually that the people
I felt the sorries for this week was Pedro Sanchez
of Spain, who have only ever been a decent country,
a democratic country, and standing up for human rights and
speaking up for the people of Gaza. And they were

(01:32:59):
basically human ill the other day by Trump. But look,
it's over with, it has passed off, and NATO still exists.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
Now, what is the sense that you got about how
this is going to play out in the Middle East.

Speaker 14 (01:33:11):
I think he's going to keep bombing Iran. I mean,
you know, I'd never heard NATO news conference use the
word scum before, and I think he said it five
times and he really emphasized it. And it has happened
again overnight since he left Turkey A and flew back
to Washington, DC. And I think I think that you know,

(01:33:32):
if you look at the price of oil has gone
up six percent overnight here, It's it's pretty shocking. But
that came out of the blue. Everyone felt that was
progress that was being made towards the end of that
in Iran, and now the Americans are back bombing them.

Speaker 3 (01:33:46):
Right, So what's what's this case going to cost Harry?

Speaker 14 (01:33:50):
Well, I think he's going to have to sit down
with his very wealthy friends and divvy up who's going
to pay towards one hundred million end Z, because that's
the bottom line between six of them. Elton John can
write that off with shrapnel in the car. He can
probably just hope and love compartment in the car. But
for Harry that is a different story. I don't care
how wealthy you are, sixteen seventeen million en Z is

(01:34:13):
an awful lot of doe to find. He's been poorly advised,
really really poorly advised. And if someone tells me that
Harry was taking advice from lawyers, that's who's been advising him.
Because I've spent the goods of thirty years in and
out of the High Court, and I remember my very
very first day at the High Court. I asked a lawyer,

(01:34:35):
so how much does the day here cost? All up?
And I just couldn't get my head round the figures
And they were there for ten weeks, So go figure.
He's been poorly advised. But look, that's the story of
Harry's life. I think he surrounded himself by people who
he likes to have listened to his various different winges
and whims.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
I mean, I almost think also that he scored himself
an own goal by doing this, hasn't he? Because the
male is going to come after him even now, aren't they.

Speaker 14 (01:35:01):
Oh, he's got the biggest enemy in the world right there.
They're not gonna stop. They're not gonna stop everything he does.
I think I'd love to I'd love to have maybe
sat with him for an hour over a beer or
a coffee ten years ago and just said, let me
just tell you how this is gonna roll. You're gonna
end up skint and you're gonna end up hated, And
that's what's happening.

Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
Yeah, Now, can we have a debate about whether Arthur
Fry is infect British.

Speaker 14 (01:35:29):
Look, they're gonna start flying flags with his face on
it if he wins the next game. It's going to
be an interesting do you know what? In all honesty,
With Andy Burnham coming in as Prime Minister on July twentieth,
it's going to be a very interesting week next week.
If England keep winning soccer matches and Arthur Ferry keeps
winning tennis matches. Andy Burnham is going to get off

(01:35:51):
to an absolute flyer inside Downing Street and I think
he could end up being probably the most loved Prime
Minister of the last decade. But look, they're gonna tam
in all honesty. Look, you know young Emma Radu Kanu
with her surname and her Romanian dad. She won the
US Open as a wildcard as a qualifier. So let's
see what this guy Ferry does. He's brilliant. I've loved

(01:36:14):
watching him and it's badly needed because let's be frank.
You know, the English never ever really got their hearts
around Andy Murray, which was a shame I felt.

Speaker 3 (01:36:24):
Yeah, it's a fair point that you make. Thanks very much,
Enda really appreciate it. Inde Brady, UK correspondent. He go
at Tipa Mabonga, the Talent and culture marketing manager for
the Kansas City Chiefs. She's the bird from Southland. Attipa
moved with her family from Zimbabwe to Taranaki when she
was four years old, and then when she was nine
years old, they relocated to Otautow and Southland and they

(01:36:45):
bought themselves a farm and then she got really good
at the Old Dum Athletics and she got herself a
sports student scholarship at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, Texas.
And then she took an internship I think it was
at the Kansas City Chiefs And now look there she
goes talent and culture marketing manager and she went to
the wedding. How good for her? Nine away from seven
hither You're sounding more like a latent twenty by the minute.

(01:37:07):
Knock it off? What does that mean? What's a tweeny? Ants?
It's like a tween ager?

Speaker 9 (01:37:11):
Yeah, yeah, Again, I'm way out of the loop on
this one. I don't know what a twenty is. Can
someone takes quickly nine two o two tween text?

Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
Mark? Hit me back with it? Nineteen nine two? What
was my crime? That land? Because I'm assuming tweeny does
mean that I'm under the age of thirteen? And what
was my crime? Pennark? Where looking forward to your message?
By the way, haven't actually told you yet. But this
was the big news in entertainment overnight. Obviously, the Emmy's
nomination list came out and there was some surprises in there.

(01:37:39):
The surprises were stranger things didn't get into any of
the big categories, and the weird thing about it is
that Stranger Things it was their final season, and normally
the Emmys like to sort of, you know, make a
big deal of a show in the final season. I
think they did that with Ship's Creek as well. But
unfortunately for Stranger Things, the last season apparently sucked quite
a lot, so they kind of missed out there. Half

(01:38:00):
Man only got a supporting actor non for Richard Gadd
apparently also was not a great show. That's the one
who did what was that where he did the weird
show where he got stalks by his ex girlfriend. I
can't remember what it's called now, Baby Reindeer. Huh, really
creepy and we're really uncomfortable. Basically, the Pit did really
well and Hacks did really well. The Pit got twenty
five nominations. Hacks got twenty four. Some really great shows

(01:38:22):
in there. Diplomat got a whole bunch of nominations. Slow
Horses got a bunch of nominations, especially for Gary Oldman,
who's the lead character in Slow Horses, and rufus Sewell,
who's the husband and the Diplomat. Also big shout out
to Alison Janney of the Diplomat. Alison Janny She's the
one who it's not a spoiler, she's the one who,
well maybe it is. Anyway, you know who she is.

(01:38:43):
She's in the last season. She takes over the other job.
Do you know she's in the last season? She is
the best. Myself and producer Sam spent far too long
today watching Alison Jenny clips and reminding ourselves of the
fact that Alison Janny is just one of the best
female activists and actresses in the history of forever. Hither
you sound like a Swift tweeny? Oh whatever? Well, because

(01:39:05):
I'm talking about Taylor Swift. You can't. You can't. You
can't ban Taylor's You can't say I'm a tweeny because
I'm talking about Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift is a legit
news story because she's just massive, isn't she. It's like
like she's like as big as Michael Jackson without all
the creepy stuff. Anyway, as what do you go again?

Speaker 9 (01:39:20):
The first album actually came out in two thousand and six,
so there are lots of adults who listened to tylor Swift?
Am you speaking of two thousand and six? We're finishing
our two thousand and six theme Tonight with Hipstone Live
by Shakira and y Cliffe Jean, which was huge that year.
Also ties into the news as well. Shakira is going
to be one of the headliners at the FIFA World
Cup Final halftime show, which is a thing now for
some reason. But have we heard Justin Bieber, Madonna and bts.

Speaker 3 (01:39:44):
Yes, that's right, I saw Justin Ban. The bettiest thing
to me is so interesting in this South Korean pop
culture is just taking over.

Speaker 9 (01:39:52):
They're huge even outside of the k Pops. Fare Bets
are just legit stars in the West now, so yeah,
it's not surprising at all from them.

Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
Okay, well listen, enjoy your mutch keys key tomorrow. Don't
go to work, It'll be we enjoy a long weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:40:04):
See it on.

Speaker 3 (01:40:05):
Taking Monday off as well. I'll see you on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (01:40:07):
By welcome.

Speaker 17 (01:40:09):
I'll go back like when the pot carry crazy for
Hump the Hump.

Speaker 1 (01:40:12):
We need a whole clubs.

Speaker 14 (01:40:17):
Guilty of some musical transaction bot.

Speaker 24 (01:40:19):
No more do we snapch rope refugees run the seas
because we on our own boat.

Speaker 13 (01:40:24):
On to night, my Hipstone night, I'm I'm starting to
fire your.

Speaker 22 (01:40:28):
Boy and then let's.

Speaker 7 (01:40:31):
Baby like this is perfective.

Speaker 3 (01:40:35):
My Hipstone night. I'm starting to care.

Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
It's fine to detention baby like this is perfection. No
fighting for more from hither dupe Less See Alan Drive.
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