Full Show Podcast: 13 March 2026

On the Heather du Plessis-Allan Drive Full Show Podcast for Friday, 13 March, 2026, we look at whether people are over-reacting by panic-buying petrol.

The Crusaders chief executive says media ban ... what media ban?

An Auckland University researcher tells us why you shouldn't mow your lawn.

And on the Sports Huddle, Lavina Good and Paul Allison discuss whether Liam Lawson will last the Formula One season.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather
Duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand to coverage like
no one else.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
News Talks Heavy.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Afternoon. Welcome to the show. Coming up today, We're going
to get you up to date on how much fuel
we have coming into the country and whether it's enough
and when we start reaching a problem point. Habit chat
to the Queenstown Mayor about the tourism numbers going up
to pre COVID levels and David Keith, the guy who
used to run the Marsden Point refinery, on whether keeping
it open would have changed anything.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Heather Duplicy Ellen, here's a.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Prediction for you. Because there have been headlines today about
gas stations running out of petrol because people have been
panic buying, people will panic buy petrol this weekend. Yesterday
was discount day at Gull, so it went a little
bit crazy. Arning Hunger's Goal ran out of ninety five
Goldgreville Road, Gull, Henderson, Gold Torbet, Gold Takanini and Gold Takapuno.

(00:59):
Will also out of at least one sort of fuel.
Two pumps round Dry at supermarkets and Palmeston North as well.
Here's my second prediction, there will be tellings off. Cheryl
from the Bay of Plenty's going to see some punter
filling up multiple containers and she's going to get angry
about it. Now, that's not actually a prediction, because that
has what that's already happened. Cheryl went to the goal
in Fuckamatama and saw a van filling up multiple large containers,

(01:21):
causing a twenty minute wait for other customers. She spoke
to the media and called it unfair. Now, the thing
is panic buying is obviously not a good idea for
the collective good. We've been here with the toilet paper
during COVID, haven't we. It's not a good idea for
the collective good. But it is also a completely rational
thing to do from a selfish perspective, if you're just
looking after yourself and your family, so you should expect

(01:42):
people to do it. And before you tell anyone off
for doing it, remember we don't know their personal circumstances,
what's made them go down to the petrol station that
day fill up their car and multiple containers. We don't
know whether they're running essential generators back on the farm,
whether they need to be sure that they have enough
fuel for the next few days. We also don't know,

(02:03):
more importantly, probably how tight their budgets are. You and
I might be able to absorb a thirty cent rise
in the price of fuel, But if they only have
a few dollars left at the end of the week
and the driving in from Pocono all the way to
the city city center every single day, they might not
have that much money. They might not have the ability
to absorb that much of a price rise. They may
in fact need to buy as much as they can

(02:24):
while it's cheap. Now, no one is to blame for
what is happening at the moment. This is a normal
human behavior, right. The media is just doing its job
by reporting on the fuel increases that people want to
read about. The government is being as careful in its
messaging as it can be, and even the punter filling
up is only doing the rational thing. So what I
would say is expect it to happen as long as
we are talking about possible shortages and price rises.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Here the duplusy Allen.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Nine two nine two is the text number. Standard text
fees apply. Let me know what you think. Now. The
Acts parties put a bit of a spanner in the
works read the propose Greyhound Racing Band. The Select Committee
reporters come in. They want the bill to be passed,
but ACT has some concerns and it's the MP Cameron Luxton,
who sat on the Select Committee is with us. High Cameron, Hey,
get our afternoon, Heather. What are your concerns.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
Well, my concerns and the ACT party concerns are that
thousands of soles to the Earth kiwis are having their
livelihoods and the greyhound industry and the community around it
ended it. They feel like Wellington just doesn't understand them
and they're losing their industry through no fault of their own.
It's quite unfortunate and I think it needs to be addressed.
Hence why've written the alternate view in the Select Committee

(03:33):
report back.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
And your alternate view is that the industry should not
be completely shut down.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
No, it's saying we need to address safety concerns properly,
but also an industry who's being shut down should be consulted.
If the state or the government is going to take
the step of shutting down an industry, it should only
be doing that if regulation isn't working. Well, that's not
what was happening in this case, the industry invest Yeah,
the industry had invested heavily in the last few years.

(04:00):
They've done a whole lot of things to try and
meet standards that have be set on them, and the
Racing Integrity Board says they met or exceeded all the
measures placed on them. So if you're going to close
down industry, you better make sure regulations are not being
complied with. And if you feel like you need to
put more and maybe do that, don't go and close
an entire industry without actually doing a.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Job applying with it, Cameron, But there was still what
would obviously deemed to be unacceptable levels of dog deaths.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Is that what happened, Well, what happened is an industry
got blindsided with a closed down and that's the situation
we're in. We've got a bill in the House with
it was a bit of surprise for the industry when
it came in. There's no compensation regime. And look, if
you're going to be taking the private property of the

(04:49):
lawfully acting industry, basically leaving its asset's worthless, you have
to have some method to make sure that the loss
is being accounted for. I think it needs some compensation. Also,
the president that you know X stood up for the
firearm owners when the buy the gun buybacks were in
place and said, is this fair? Well, this is a

(05:10):
precedent for the in this racing code with with greyhounds.
Is it fair? Are we setting a good precedent here?
Are we consulting properly upfront? Are we providing a compensation
ranging that makes sense? And are we actually meeting the
needs of the of the greyhounds when it comes to rehoming?

Speaker 3 (05:27):
What would the compo be?

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Look, I don't We had numbers thrown around at Select Committee,
but really that work hasn't hasn't really been done, so it's.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Hard to say.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
But the good news Select Committee did make an amendment
to allow what was originally designed in the plant in
the proposal to allow overseas betting on greyhounds. Now, some
people said that was not right because it was youposing
down betting in New Zealand but allowing it on overseas greyhounds.
But the revenue from those overseas betting could still be

(06:01):
used for rehoming and closed down and even compensation, So
you know, there isn't It's not like this is this
is a completely there's no revenue.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
That could be used.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
There is a piece of revenue that the Select Committee
saw saw fit to include in the amendments to this bill.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Mate, what are we going to do with the sixteen
hundred dogs that need to be rehomed?

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Well, it's a good question. You know, we've got the
SPCA and the Ministerially Ministerial Advisory Committee, the MAC committee.
You know, they say that it's a large scale challenge
that they've got ahead of them, but you know that
that is a concern and.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
So realistically a whole bunch of those dogs have to
be put down, right.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
I pray not greyhounds of beautiful animals. I was patting
one a couple of hours ago. Amazing things. I'd hope
that wouldn't happen. But look, we've got we've got a
tight time frame to this closed down. I'm sure that
I'm sure that people are working hard on that. Yeah,
but you know, tight timeframes are tight time frames, and
perhaps we should be looking at whether a shutdown on

(07:07):
the first of August and what is that four and
a bit months away, whether that is the right thing.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, Cameron, thanks for talking us to talking to us
about it. I appreciate It's Cameron Luxton of the AX Party.
I don't know if you realize this, but New Zealand's
only animal blood bank is in jeopardy of closing down
because they get a lot of their blood from the
greyhounds and the greyhound industry. So if you don't have
the greyhound industry anymore, all of a sudden, you've got
a problem, an' you, Heather. We have been brought up

(07:34):
and taught to panic by ever since the bartender called
last call, which is probably fair by the way, on
that if you are all, if you're one of the
punters that went down to Repco and brought yourself a
jerry can so you can store some in the basement
underneath the house, just have a little just just have
a little mm as the air. As the ad says,

(07:54):
you may need to check your insurance policy because it
may actually preclude you from stockpiling fuel on your property.
So go and have a look at that just before
you decide to, you know, chuck the ninety one under
the house quarter past.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
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Speaker 1 (08:12):
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Speaker 3 (08:16):
Hey We've just got a text from the Crusaders Maddie,
who's become famous in the heralds today for a reason.
We will discuss this later. It'll talian a minute, I'll
talian a minute. But anyway, Maddie from the Crusaders has
text and said Colin from the Crusaders, as in Colin
Mansbridge is going to be with us after half past five,
and I'm going to explain to you why we want
to talk to him. To stand by, it's eighteen past four.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
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Speaker 3 (08:42):
Seid, Jason Pine Weekend Sport hosters of That's Hello Piney.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Hello Heather.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Do you where do the Warriors?

Speaker 2 (08:47):
No?

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Where do the Raiders sit on the table. I mean,
it's just one weekend, but well.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
It's just it's it's as you say, it's just the
just the one weekend. They had a win last weekend,
as did the Warriors. So somebody's going to lose that
I'm beaten record tonight, don't they? But yeah, I mean
Raiders were a good team. So it's another good challenge
tonight at go Media for.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
The Warriors how do you feel about it?

Speaker 5 (09:07):
I feel good about it, But then I mean, that's
probably the kiss of death for this Warrior's side if
I feel confident about their chances. Not that I have
that much power, obviously, but look, I really like what
I saw last week. It wasn't the perfect performance, but
it was only round one and the Roosters, you know,
they came to Auckland as favorites to win that game,
and the Warriors won the game. So look, if they

(09:27):
were to win tonight, it'll be the first time since
twenty eighteen that the Warriors have won their first two
games in a regular season. It seems like a crazy stat,
doesn't it that they're not able to get any sort
of consistency in the first fortnight of a season. Look,
they're still without a couple of key players, but they
didn't have Mitch Barnett or Luke Metcalf last weekend either,
and it didn't really seem to matter. Tanner Boyd had
a really good game. I thought he was excellent in

(09:48):
the number seven jumper. Others you know, contributed in the
fashion that was required. I think i'd be if I
was a Warriors fan heading along that tonight I'd be
going along with a fair degree of optimism.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah, and jersey on to show you, to show there
are jerseys tiny, We have got jerseys through this office
like you wouldn't believe. It's nuts. So okay, Now, last
time Liam Lawson was in Shanghai it was bad. So
what do you think is he is this going to
be like in his head giving him a problem this
time around?

Speaker 5 (10:18):
I really hope not. I would hope that a sportsperson
of Liam Lawson's caliber would not have ghosts in his
head from a year ago. Yes, of course, when he
goes back there for the first time since last year
where you know, he raced for the second and as
it turned out, final time for the Red Bull team
before he was demoted down to racing balls, I guess

(10:39):
it must sort of occur to him, Oh, hey, this
is what you know, this is where that all happened
last year. But I feel like, you know, to use
a vehicle analogy, you can't look in the rearview mirror.
You know, these cars don't even have them, do they
They might, they might, I don't know, But he can't
look in the review mirror at what happened last year
all he can do is look ahead. I'd be more
worried if I was Liam Lawson about making sure that

(11:00):
what happened one weekend ago doesn't happen again. And that's
more to do with his team and the power that
he didn't get on the start line and the fact
that pretty much jettison his whole race really, So hopefully
they've got that fixed. Hopefully there are no ghosts in
his head, and hopefully when he leaves leave Shanghai in
about seventy two hours, it'll be with a much better
feeling than it was a year ago.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
No, thank you, Piney appreciated. Look forward to your show
this weekend as Jason pine a Weekend Sport hosts, he'll
be doing midday through to three. So why we want
to talk to call a Man's Bridge of the Crusaders
is because if you were reading the Herald this morning,
you will have seen the Crusaders have now banned the
media from coming to any more of the trainings and
the reason for that is because of the scuffle. The
scuffle that was originally reported as a punch up, it

(11:43):
turns out as it was, Stuff got it wrong and
Stuff said it was a punch up. It wasn't a
punch up. It was a bit of a poshy chovy
between the players and the players of according to Maddie,
who is the comms lady for the Crusaders, shouldn't want
to have to do this. But the players are burned.
They're really burned, not really hurt by it, and they

(12:03):
don't want to have the media at the training anymore.
So the media a ban from all future training now. Anyway,
we will discuss this with Colin because it does seem
it seems like it might be hmm, a bit of
an overreaction. Anyway, Collin's with us after half past five,
four twenty two.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 6 (12:29):
The idea of Carlos Days has once again been floated
as a way to deal with the oil iss ues.
Nicola Willis, Finance Minister.

Speaker 7 (12:34):
Is with us.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
Are you walking a fine line between reality and panicking
people with this sort of talk?

Speaker 8 (12:39):
Yeah, because right now we have guys with the fuel supply,
but we do need to be proactively thinking heat. I
want to be clear, though we published a national fuel plan,
it has hiven phases. The extreme non management tool of
Carlos data is right at the end.

Speaker 7 (12:55):
We're only in face.

Speaker 9 (12:56):
One at the moment.

Speaker 6 (12:57):
None of this is going to happen as if you
won't say it, but I will. This thing's over a
couple of weeks. I'm absolutely convinced.

Speaker 10 (13:02):
Well, I certainly want it to be back.

Speaker 6 (13:04):
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Real Estate News Talk z.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
B, cutting through the noise to get the facts.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
It's Heather Do for Cell and Drive with one New
Zealand coverage like no one else News Talk z'd be okay.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
So here's the interesting thing about oil coming into this country.
We are about to start finding out shortly what kind
of disruption we're facing because because there's an outfit called
Starboard Marine Intelligence, and they are the outfit in this
country that watch what's going on with the ships. They say,
the last of the ships that got through the Strait

(13:39):
of Hillmores before everything became pear shaped in that strait,
the last of the ships that got through are now
arriving in Singapore. That's where we largely get our oil from,
right it is where we get our feel from Singapore
and South Korea. They're landing there now. So we've had
no disruption up to now, but when that last ship arrives,
everything from here is where we start to feel the ruptions.

(14:00):
So we're gonna have a chat to Mark Douglas of
Starboard Marine Intelligence to just give us a bit of
a feel after five o'clock what we should be expecting,
what like, realistically, are we going to feel any any
trouble with the old the fuel coming in on the Warriors.
So I have resisted for a week giving absolute grief
to keV. keV. keV is the one who's here because

(14:23):
the Germans off having a baby. Now, keV is a
full grown adult. He is a gen xer right, so
he's got like a lot of years of life experience.
keV and his wife went to the Warriors last week.
He was so excited. He was planning, how are we
going to get to the Warriors. We're going to take
the car we were going to park? Are we going
to make it in time? Finished seven o'clock, it's an
eight o'clock. They got there, couldn't find the tickets. They

(14:44):
bought the tickets, couldn't find the tickets, didn't know where
the tickets were, and it was like the world's biggest
boomer moment because they had the receipt for the tickets
and their emails, but they couldn't find the tickets anyway.
It was a puzzle for days like that. And he's
planning to go tonight. So I was like, oh lord,
we've got it, intervene. Here, have you got your tickets?

Speaker 2 (14:59):
keV.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
So he's opened, he's got it on his phone. He's
got that that showed us the tickets. Okay, he's going
to get in tonight. Where were the tickets? The receipt
was on the wife's email. The tickets were on his email.
It's a marital dispute because you would think that in
an instance like this, you'd be like, you check her emails,
or you check her junk mail, but surely to God

(15:19):
somebody would think should check cavs as well. I'm on
Catherine's side. I've heard all his fault because he didn't
open his emails. Heather, I've got two ten li to
containers for petrol from my ride on law Mower. I
wonder if people can tell the difference that my van
is Diesel, no Reese. We're going to tell you off, mate.
You staid.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Hard questions strong opinion. Heather duplicy el and drive with
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Dog said, Bastilsy.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Time is moss.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Right, Dad Mitchison is going to be with us out
of the US short and Barry Soper standing by to
be with us in ten minutes time. On the fuel,
the Australian government, I was telling you yesterday Western Australia,
parts of rural Western Australia run out of diesel. The
Australian government has just today released like hundreds of millions
of liters of fuel from their stockpile that they keep
on shore, basically to try to smooth out some of

(16:18):
these regional shortages. It's also down to the panic buying.
So there is so much panic buying that service stations
and wholesalers of run draw in various parts of the country.
You have people now filling up Jerry cans and selling
it for a premium on Facebook marketplace. So they've released
four hundred million liters of diesel and three hundred million
liters of petrol from their stockpile twenty four away from five.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
It's the world wires on newstalgs 'd be drive.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Iransview Supreme Leader has made his first address since taking
over from his father. It was a written statement. It's
been read on state TV, meaning he still hasn't been
seed seen, still hasn't been heard since he succeeded his father.
Here's what it said.

Speaker 11 (17:00):
Aim is actually to make them fail in a very
regrettable way. The enemy is actually very vulnerable. They cannot
open any new fronts, and we are going to open
new fronts against them if deemed necessary.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Meanwhile, in the State, Senator Ted Cruz's warning of an
increase in terrorism as the war continues. This comes after
two attacks in the past week on US soil.

Speaker 12 (17:19):
Threat of terrorist attack is higher now than it has
been in decades. What President Trump will do is if
you are killing Americans, if you are a threat to
the safety of Americans, President Trump is a strong commander
in chief and he will take you.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Out and finally oots. A Russian man has lost his
right to free Dominoes for life. The man won a
competition back in twenty eighteen by tattooing a Domino's logo
on his ankle, and the price for anyone who went
thus far was to have one hundred free pizza vouchers
per year for one hundred years, but then in twenty

(17:55):
twenty three, five years later, the promotion was withdrawn and
he lost the court battle against Dominoes to receive his pizza.
But he did say on radio, it's not that bad
because I got sick of pizza. This is a matter
of principle.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind
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Speaker 3 (18:14):
Dan Machimson, US correspondents with US Now. Hello Dan, Hi, Heather, Right,
So what's the public opinion of Donald Trump doing?

Speaker 7 (18:22):
Then?

Speaker 2 (18:24):
It's falling.

Speaker 13 (18:25):
Actually, a majority of Americans are disapproving how he's managing
this conflict. This is according to a new PBS poll
that's just out. You've got Ran Paul who's a Republican
out of Kentucky, who says the whole thing could erode
support not only for the President but for the GOP,
which of course they're concerned about the midterms coming up
later this year. And the survey also found that fifty

(18:46):
six percent of Americans opposed military action in Iran and
only well forty four percent supported.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
It's divided along is it still divided along the old
party lines as in the Democrats hated in the Republicans
love it.

Speaker 13 (19:00):
Yeah, for the most part, I think. But I think
you're getting a few Republicans now that are siding with Well,
they won't say it publicly. They're saying that, you know,
we're deciding on this, but are saying that maybe we
went into quickly. And I think whether public opinion shifts
this could depend largely on how quickly this whole thing ends.
President Trump says it's getting set to be wrapped up.

(19:22):
But I think it's more turning into a domestic political
liability for the GOP than it is for the Democrats,
and will certainly give them something to target Republicans going
into the midterms.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
The thing that is probably going to push public opinion
in such a way that it would cause him to
end it prematurely would be what it's doing to the
price of fuel for you people. How's that going?

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Oh? Yeah, that's not good. Right now.

Speaker 13 (19:46):
California is paying the most in the country for gallon
of gas, which is something around I think maybe five
seventy gallon five dollars and seventy cents. You've got airline fuel,
which is almost tripled in cost right now, which as
you know, with Air New Zealand over there and our
airlines over here right now, they've already started to raise

(20:07):
the fares, and of course that's happening with trains and
shipping and the grocery goods are going up because they're
having to pay more to transport those as well. So
that's where it's really going to hurt Republicans right now,
because honestly, more Americans are afraid of how they're going
to be able to afford to pay everything with these
prices going up and wages staying the same.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
You guys going to use robot soldiers.

Speaker 13 (20:29):
Well, if you mean me personally, no, although I think
that's kind of cool. But the militaries are working on
these AI soldiers for years and they've they've got these
up and running right now like you would see in
a sci fi movie and the pictures that we've seen,
and it's like a combination of RoboCop or that evil robot.
I can't think of the name it was in Disney's
movie The Black Hole, but it's it's very evil looking,

(20:52):
it's very scary. It's jet black steel, it's got a
tinted glass advisor. It's called the Phantom MK one, and
the goal is to send more of these than humans
and have these robots carry any type of weapons that
a soldier can. And in the last couple of weeks
these robots have been sent at least a couple to Ukraine.
Initially this was going to be for sort of recon support,
but they're using them to try and deal with explosives too,

(21:14):
so real humans won't be put in so much danger.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
So what are they doing, by the way, about the
oscars and security?

Speaker 13 (21:22):
Yeah, well, you know, this is the biggest TV event,
along with the Super Bowl that we have over here
in the States every year, and there's a lot of
money writing on this, and there's a lot of security
on this too. Especially the FBI warned California law enforcement
and our Governor Gavenus about the possibility of of a
drone attack by Iran targeting the West Coast, so they're

(21:44):
rolling out more security this year. It's not very visible
at this point. The Academy of Motion Pictures, Arts and
Sciences that puts on this event is not is not
saying anything publicly about it. But Governor k Newsom came
out and said he's in touch with the FBI and
with security agencies and said he's guarantee that everything that
can be done will be done.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
But we'll see if this is.

Speaker 13 (22:04):
Going to mean fewer of the big name celebrities will
show up for the event, or if they just feel
confident say hey, we're going to go with the flow.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Thanks Dan, appreciate it. You enjoy your weekend. That's Dan Mitchinson,
US correspondent. By the way, it's being reported that Timothy
Shaller may may have lost his his oscar because of
comments about opera and the ballet and it just wouldn't
be cool to give it to him now, nineteen away from.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Five ever, due for see Ellen.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Right, I'm not sure this is a totally wise thing
to do, because I'm going to go smat on you
right now, but this has been the talk, the talk
of the newsroom, so I'm going to direct you to this.
You need to go and read the yarn about in
the Herald, by the way, about the guy who owns
Manuka Doctor, mainly because sure like it's sillacious and it's

(22:51):
you know, not high brow. I'm not gonna put it's wild.
It's completely wild. It's going to blow your mind. The
guy's name, so Minuka Doctor. You're like, I've heard of them. Yeah,
you've heard of them because there's Manuka Minuka Doctor Arena
which is where we play the tennis in Parnell and
they've got various sponsorships and stuff. There's loads of money.
The company's worth a lot of money anyway. The guy
who owns it is a chap called Matt Pringle. Matt's
mum is Lynette Erseg, who was married to Michael Ersatt

(23:13):
who Erseg who made the fortune off liquor. Now Matt
Pringle has a baby with Livnervo. Stay with me, it's
not going to be so complicated. He's got a baby
with Livnrvo, who is an acclaimed like a globally acclaimed DJ.
She's originally from Australia and she does a DJing thing
with her sister. Anyway, she and Matt have a relationship
that lasts maybe two or three years between twenty sixteen

(23:35):
and twenty nineteen, and they are a couple. They're known
as a couple, she says. She says, they decide to
have a baby together, so they're doing the normal thing
that a couple. You know, you make the life decision.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
You want to start a family. So they start trying
for a baby, and they're scheduling to got big travel
schedules and stuff, so scheduling to catch up when she's fertile,
and so she falls pregnant. But she starts to this
is her version of events, I need to say, because
I don't think that we've heard from Matt on this. Anyway,
she starts to feel something's a wee bit off and
things aren't making sense. Six months into the pregnancy which

(24:06):
she's got the baby girl, she makes a surprise trip
to New Zealand to ask him directly about some of
these things that she feels are a bit off. The
meeting ends in shock because she discovers Matt actually has
a relationship with another woman who is also having a
baby with him. He has a secret family back in
New Zealand. Anyway, the whole thing, because of course, if

(24:28):
you've got something this salacious involving famous people, then it
goes to the courts. So the whole thing's going through
the courts at the moment, and to be honest, it
is I'm slightly ashamed of telling you about this because
it is their own private, messed up business and who
doesn't have your own private, messed up business. We all do.
We just don't want it to be out there, right.
But the problem for him, unfortunately, is she's famous, he's
incredibly wealthy. So she's spoken to the heralds and now

(24:49):
it's out there. Now. As I say, I wouldn't normally
draw your attention to stuff like this, but it's so bonkers.
Go to the herald and read about it. Sixteen away
from five.

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Speaker 3 (25:03):
Colin Mansbridge of the Crusaders with US after half past five,
right now, thirteen away from five and Barry Soper, Senior
political correspondence with US. Hello, Barry, good afternoon.

Speaker 14 (25:11):
Hea those so Paul.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Eagle, what a yarn? What's hell?

Speaker 14 (25:15):
Look, the Auditory General's report came out fairly late yesterday
and I've had a bit of a look at it
now and it's pretty serious. Paul Eagle went over I
think it was two thousand and three in July to
become the Chief executive of the Chatham Islands. Now it
is a population of six hundred people. His annual salary

(25:39):
was around three hundred and forty thousand dollars a year.
You mentioned trying to spend that on the Chattham Islands.
I've been there. There's not a hell of a lot there.
There's a pub and a bit of shopping you can do,
but you know, not a lot else. Really a lot
of crayfish if you're interested in that. But so then
before he moves into the council supplied, he spends forty

(26:01):
thousand dollars on rental because he demanded the health the
house be done up, and they spent five hundred thousand
almost on doing the house up for the new chief executive.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
How about that, Barry, did you say there were six
hundred people there? Six hundred people, one of those people
contributing almost one thousand dollars to him getting his flash
get open.

Speaker 14 (26:25):
So the new guy that's taken over now is the
interim chief executive. So he's living in a quite a
nice house.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Garry, on with what point did with the money have
you even got to the appliance as yet?

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Well?

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Please me. So Paul has got expensive taste? Is it
eighteen thousand dollars he blew on me lay appliances when
a Fisher and pikeel would have done for you mate,
but not only that was the approved budget of the thing,
not two hundred thousand dollars. And then he takes over
the management of the renovation and then he starts approving
things himself.

Speaker 14 (26:57):
Yes, and he uses his flight account to fly his
wife and the son back to New Zealand whenever they
want to go to and from the Chathams.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
So and this is from the guy who just while
while he was an MP, skyved off and nobody knows
what he did for about a year.

Speaker 14 (27:12):
Well, yes, Paul Eagle, he formerly was an advisor to
the police. He was an ethnic advisor in Wellington to
the police. He's an interesting character. I know him and
you know I quite like him as well.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Are you telling me that was his job before getting
into politics. Yes, so nothing real, just nonsense. So his
whole career is nonsense.

Speaker 14 (27:33):
Well say that, you've just said it hither but no.
So now the authorities are looking at this because the
Order to General couldn't decide whether it was legal or
illegal what he got up to. So now the authority
is going to have a log at it. And even
though Paul Eagle has now left the Chatham Island, he

(27:55):
actually got the job there because a lot of people
probably won't realize this, but the wrong attire electorate is
essentially kilometers away the chatter it encompasses that Julian Genter
is now the MP there. She'll be, no doubt flying
on a magic carpet there because it costs quite a
lot of money to get to the chatter minis.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Marry Who appoints the chief executive of the chatterm Islands
the Council?

Speaker 14 (28:22):
Well no, not the council won't be The council will
be a recruitment agency. He went through.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
But who signs off and goes yep, that's my pre
the mirror of Wellington.

Speaker 14 (28:32):
Well no, I think from what I can read way.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
And find out and then tell me. I want to
know whether this is a job for one of the boys. Again,
this feels like one of those ones where you give
you get somebody out, you give them a political appointment
and then they with us off.

Speaker 14 (28:47):
Or they lauded the appointment at the time they thought
it was wonderful.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
That's your job for quarter past six.

Speaker 14 (28:53):
That's if I haven't got enough to do.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Are we going to eat? We're not? Are we going
to get to Carlo stays sure.

Speaker 14 (29:00):
I remember Carlos Days and that it was before you were
born here that we had Carlos Days here in New Zealand.
Rob Muldoon decided it was a good way to save
on the fuel because there was an oil shortage in
those days as well. It came in in July nineteen
seventy nine and was scrapped less than a year later

(29:21):
in May nineteen eighty because essentially it was a failure.
The government shouldn't even should not even contemplate it because
it saved about three percent in terms of fuel. The
cars that had multiple car households who had multiple cars

(29:41):
could have a sticker on every day and drive. In fact,
I drove every day because I was, of course an
exempt person because the media has to get out and
tell the story, but that's my job. And there were
black markets to is being sold all over the place,

(30:02):
and I remember people stopping on the side of the
road pouring their petrol cans into the back of their car.
I mean, people hoarded people so ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
So did it only save three percent of consumption because
it was being raughted or did it only save three
percent of consumption by design?

Speaker 14 (30:19):
No, it was rotted the system essentially was routed, never
really worked properly. And I noticed that Nikola Willis said,
that's right at the end that they may have to
think about something like that. I'll tell you we have
to be down, so they should stop thinking about it
now because it'll never be.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Because you've got a better idea.

Speaker 14 (30:37):
Well, no, because I'll get a sticker of course exempting me.
And we've got a couple of cars, so it'd be
no problem. God.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Oh thanks, Marry O. Could you find out about who
appointed Paul Eagle from me if you don't mind, and then
we'll talk again. Quarter pass six Berry so for senior
political correspondent. WO will wrap the week later on seven
away from five, Heather Barry missed the point that Paul
Eagle also employed his wife as a council consultant a
fee of three hundred thousand dollars typical labor. I've been
told off for not drawing attention to the fact that

(31:06):
Paul Eagle is labor aligned. But you know, you probably
know that if you've been following politics long enough. It's
four away from five. Listen, lawn numbers. I've got some
weird numbers on your lawn for you. There's an Auckland
University researcher who's done some sums on what we're doing
with grass in this country. And by grass, I do
mean like the lawn. Largely. They've looked at Auckland because
they are Auckland based. In Auckland, apparently a third of

(31:29):
the city is covered in lawn and they've done this
obviously not you know, like it's little bits. You'r bit,
my bit, the bit next door. They add it all up.
It's a third of the city. It's actually more than
most urban centers. Most urban centers are around about twenty
percent or a fifth of the city or town. In Auckland,
people spend they estimate one hundred and thirty one million
dollars every year on their lawns. And that's the private spend.

(31:50):
That's not even the dudes who are walking up and
down mowing the berm and doing all the other stuff there.
So this will be things like mowing and watering and
weed killing and fertilizing your lawn and making sure it
looks absolutely beautiful. Every year across New Zealand, seven thousand
people injure themselves just mowing the lawn. But there's a lot.
Look think about that. There's a lot of people. Seven

(32:13):
thousand people cop themselves a mowing injury every single year.
It costs the country in acc payments twelve point six
million dollars because you can't handle your lawn mower. Anyway,
all of these numbers, they're building a case the University
of Auckland. They reckon, we need to approach our lawns
differently and we need to do something different. Now I'm
quite keen to hear what it is that we need

(32:33):
to do different, because if they come at me with
just let your lawn grow, I'm not interested in that nonsense.
Are you interested in that nonsense? I mean, Nick, minute
you let the lawn grow, then they're gonna be like,
don't paint your house and we'll just turn into a
shanty town. That's what happens if you don't mow your lawns.
That's what anyway, we'll find out because I'm putting words
in their mouths and there might be something completely reasonable.
You never know.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Next up, we're going to talk to Mark Douglas. Just
find out this is Mark Douglas of Stallboard Starboard Rather
Marine Intelligence, about what happened Now that the last ship
out of the Strait of Hormus has landed in Singapore.
Is this when the disruption starts?

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Speaker 3 (33:31):
The last of the oil tankers that made it through
the Strait of Hormus before it shut down have now
arrived in Singapore. Now this is significant for New Zealand
because Singapore and South Korea are the two places where
we get most of our fuel from. So it means
if there's going to be some sort of a disruption,
we're about to find out about it. Mark Douglas is
an analyst with Starboard Maritime Intelligence. They track ships around
the globe and he's with us high Mark Hire the

(33:54):
are you I'm very well, thank you. So do you
think we're going to feel a disruption.

Speaker 15 (33:59):
In this So I'm looking at my screen and I
can see nine tankers all making their way to New
Zealand from the likes of Singapore, South Korea and Japan.
So in the short term, as I think the Finance
Minister has said, there's plenty of fuel on the way,
but in the long term, certainly it's going to start
to buy it when so it takes time to refine

(34:20):
the fuel. But it's already happening in the pumps. It's
going up and it's going to get worse from there
as the longer the disruption comes. Luckily, the likes of
Saudi Araba are moving where they load tankers to other
points that aren't affected by the crisses with Iran, but
that's still going to reduce the flow coming out.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
So you'd normally get obviously it would be pretty regular
arrivals in Singapore. What is going to be the gap,
What's going to be the delay between the ships that
have arrived now that got through the straight up humors
and whatever arrives next.

Speaker 15 (34:51):
So the last of them left on the twenty eighth
and it's now the eleventh, so twelve days let's call
it actually two weeks at least before between when the
straight finally open up, when the vessels actually managed to
load leave and then get to Singapore, and from there
they need to be unloaded. Product needs to get refined
and then loaded onto the product tankers to make its
way to New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Which means that what if we haven't got anything coming
through right now, it's going to be a delay of
at least two weeks.

Speaker 15 (35:17):
At least two weeks.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yeah, you're seeing any ships come through.

Speaker 16 (35:19):
It all.

Speaker 15 (35:21):
Coming through the straits of Hormones. I have seen one
bulk carrier make it through today and it was proudly
displaying its destination as Chinese crew.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Okay, so what I've read is that at the moment
what is getting through is Iranian and it's going dark
because of the radar jamming, and it's on its way
to China. So they just are letting some ship through
their own vessels to make money. Is that what's happening?

Speaker 15 (35:42):
Yes, absolutely so. It's in Iran's best interest to continue
the flow of oil and their biggest customer is China.
But they've also seen reports that they're also considering leading
Indian vessels through as well, so that they can continue
the flow of oil to that country.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Okay, so what is the most likely outcome here at
to be dealing Because obviously there's a difference between running
out and high prices, although they can be combined. Are
we more likely to be faced with high prices than
running out all together and having rationing?

Speaker 15 (36:10):
Yeah, at this point it absolutely looks like higher prices
are far more likely than running out altogether.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
All right, Mark, thank you very much. Made appreciate it.
Mark Douglas, Starboard Maritime Intelligence. They watch all the ships
around the globe's ten past.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Five, Heather do for cel.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
So we appear to be crimping ever closer to reaching
pre COVID tourism levels. About fifteen thousand more overseas visitors
travel to New Zealand And January than the year before.
This puts out US at about ninety seven percent now
of pre pandemic levels.

Speaker 7 (36:37):
Now.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
The Mayror of Queenstown Lakes District, John Glover.

Speaker 16 (36:40):
Is with us.

Speaker 7 (36:40):
Hi.

Speaker 9 (36:40):
John, Yeah, good afternoon, Heather.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Have you noticed it?

Speaker 9 (36:44):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Crazy? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (36:46):
And this season has been very very strong for us locally.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
What are you seeing?

Speaker 2 (36:50):
So?

Speaker 9 (36:50):
I mean it started in November and you know, the
toys of numbers and the people around November felt like January.
So this year has been really really strong. Neighboring councils
if you look north up to take a poor for
the McKenzie Council. They've really felt the pressure of convoys
of Campa vans and others just rattling through their district. Now.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
In the past, obviously, Queenstown's had a bit of a
love hate relationship with the tourists because of course of
the pressure that they put on the infrastructure. What's it
like at the moment, are you guys still in that
space or just grateful?

Speaker 9 (37:20):
So we're I mean, we're in full noise with tourism.
We recovered to our pre pandemic levels. You know, we're
probably a one hundred and fifteen per cent above pre pandemic,
so we're certainly noticing it. I think the conversation's matured.
It is actually a broader one of how we manage growth,
you know. I mean we look around. We've got the
ski fields, we've got the bike trails, we've got the restaurants,

(37:42):
we got the wineries. We wouldn't have a lot of
that stuff without the tourists. And like myself, many many
people came here as a visitor, came on holiday, stayed
and the ends up putting down routes and making it work.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
How are you feeling about what you're seeing going on globally,
the impact that it's going to have on airline prices,
it's going to have on on in New Zealand flying
to the regions, probably not yours though, How do you
feel about that?

Speaker 9 (38:04):
Yeah, well we're already seeing some flights being consolidated, some
services being canceled, so they'll be fewer services to Wellington
Crime Church in Auckland that yeah, yeah, and but I
mean that's that's the airline responding to the market pressure.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Losing John, I'm surprised by that.

Speaker 9 (38:27):
I think there's probably about three to six a week,
and so I mean that's that's down to the airlines.
They'll consolidate some flights, they'll move some people around, but
I think short term, you know, people will have got
that Easter holidays books. You know, it's not too long
till Easter of the school holidays, so people I think
we'll just carry.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
On with that.

Speaker 9 (38:46):
You know, they've they've they've probably got their prices locked
and loaded. I think as we get into the winter
season and people in notoriously last minute for booking winter
holidays because coming from Australia, because they want to wait
domesiply and see us doing so, we may see some
hesitation and people. I think pricing and fight availability will
feed it into that.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Good luck with it, John, and thanks very much for
your time. John Glover, Mayor of Queenstown Lakes District.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Hither Dupless Allen.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Hither, my husband got funny looks when he was filling
up his diesel work car and then he put petrol
in a smaller proof container for our generator. We're completely
off the grid, so we need it for our generator
when it's not sunny, so that we have power. We
aren't being greedy. Well share and try that on this
weekend and see how people go for that. Hither. I
saw a woman today filling up a fifty liter caravan
gray water tank with petrol at an NPD self service

(39:35):
ben Hither. I'm just passing the BP and the Celtics
and Main Street blenn and the prices for ninety one
or three dollars and five cents and two dollars ninety
nine respectively, one car at BP and NNE at Celtics Blenham.
Can be a bit slow to catch on on that,
so I didn't believe I was listening to the people,
the EV people going oh, you know, we've got all
these inquiries. Oh, we've got all these sales of the

(39:55):
water though you just said no. Apparently it's happening. I
know this because, as you you know, why drive a
bid from time to time because the boys at BYD
give me one and then they want me to see
what it's like before I tell you about it. So
Warren from Byd turned up today to give me the
big old bag bag bag one and he said to me,
in just two car dealerships in Auckland yesterday they sold

(40:15):
fifteen cars, ten cars in new Market, five cars on
the North Shore, they sold ten in christ Church, and
they sold four hundred and eighty cars in Australia. This
all happened yesterday. So evidently people are deciding to go
electric at the moment. Fourteen past five either, how many
petrol cars were sold over that time? Well, I mean,

(40:37):
I don't know. That's a very good question. Actually that
is a very good That would be a control group,
wouldn't That is a good question. Hey, shout out really
quickly to Tulla and Parnell in Auckland, which is the
restaurant that does the modern psalm or in cuisine. It's
just been named one of the world's one hundred Greatest
Places to Visit by Time magazine. Already everybody knows it's great.
It's got heaps heaps of awards already. But yeah, try

(40:57):
to get a booking at that place. Now seventeen past five.
Now here are some numbers for you. A third of
Auckland is covered in lawn. Auckland has spent one hundred
and thirty one million dollars every year looking after their lawns.
Seven thousand people in this country are hurt just mowing
their lawns every year, and that costs the country twelve
point six million dollars? Is there a better way of
doing this?

Speaker 7 (41:18):
All?

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Olivia rook de Voye is a PhD candidate at Auckland
University and with US high. Olivia, Hi, here the thanks
for having me. Yeah, go on, then is there a
better way?

Speaker 17 (41:29):
The answer to that is it's complex. Of course, I
can't give you a straight answer, which I have been
studying lawns for many years now. Yeah, and basically they're
in an environmental disaster. We've got Yeah, they huge amounts
of chemical inputs mowing their very low biodiversity, so they're

(41:53):
not offering anything to the environment. And of course we're
spending so much time in and doing ourselves maintaining them.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Oh so when you say that the bad for the environment,
in part, it's because we're mowing them, and then we're
mowing them with the petrol, and then we're letting off
all the co two. Is that part of the problem.

Speaker 17 (42:06):
Yes, that's correct. And we're also getting rid of anything
that could grow there, that would contribute to pollinators, foraging birds,
anything that could exist in these spaces. They're really not
getting a chance. They're basically operating like green carpets at
the moment.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Okay, well, what I mean, what do you do? Because
you do need a place for the kids to sort
of play and if they fall over, they're not going
to give themselves an enormous concussion and have to go
to hospital.

Speaker 7 (42:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (42:28):
Yeah, it's so true. So the way I've approached lawns
and auckland especially is it's a pragmatic ecology. We need
to be looking at the spaces that we aren't using,
that perhaps aren't ideal for sports. We don't play cricket
on them, and whether those are performing the way they should, well,
what should we do? So the easiest answer, the first
thing I thought is, well, can we reduce the bowing?

Speaker 3 (42:49):
So I knew you were going to stop you you're
doing that? Will you tell us? And then then before
you know, it looks like a shandy town and roomy era.
Can't do that.

Speaker 17 (42:57):
Oh that's I've had that feedback, and I've also had
people to they love the wildness that's been brought back,
that they're suddenly seeing insects they've not seen for years.
And the way to approach an unknown lawn is it's
not no mo, it's lomo. So you mo once a year,
you maintain the edges, you make sure people know it's
still cared for, that it's your lawn.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
How long does it get all of you in a year?

Speaker 17 (43:20):
Depending on your lawn. In Auckland, we've got the cursed
Caiku grass which performs very well here and we'll take
over anywhere you let it take over. Caiku you can
get up to knee height in a year as it
just gets denser.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
If you have.

Speaker 17 (43:33):
Different grasses, they'll get taller and whispery a. It all
depends on the lawn you've got yourself.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Hmm, okay, all right now just a question right, so
bring I love the bees. I want the bees there
and I want all the little insects to have a
fantastic time. Can we not just provide for them with hedges?

Speaker 17 (43:49):
Yes, So you have to view your lawn as part
of the environment it's in. It's not just part of
your house. It's not an extension of your house. It's
part of the ecosystem. So you need the flowering hedges,
you need the flowering lawn plants. You need the connectivity
across the mosaic of lawns across the not just New Zealand,

(44:10):
the world, and that way you're going to increase the
biodiversity and the insects. You can't view it as a
very binary justice.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Justice Olivia, Thank you, Olivia rook de Voi Auckland University,
Faculty of Science. I have a friend who planted wildflowers. Actually,
I mean they had a lawn like I still had
normal person's lawn, but they did do the wildflower garden.
It was actually quite nice and I actually think I
could be into that whilst still mowing the lawn. Actually,
what am I talking about. I don't have a lawn.
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a small card put a whole family in. His second
reaction was, actually, that's quite big inside, which actually is
what I thought when I put both of the car
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Speaker 3 (45:53):
That'd be I'll get to the texts on the lawn
in a minute five twenty five. Now, I've got to
be careful what I say because Colin Mansbridge of the
Cruise is going to be with us in a minute.
But I do think the Crusaders have overreacted to the
media calling it a punch up when it was not
a punch up but more of a pushy shovey. What's
happened is the Crusaders has now banned any media from
attending the team trainings from here on in. Media have

(46:16):
been instructed to wait in the foyer until I say
you can come out and fill the iron time. You
are not permitted to stand and watch training before this time.
Now fair enough, fair enough to take the media to
task on this. And it was a mistake right stuff
reported that two players had had a punch up when
that only actually scuffled. Everyone else followed the same story.
Everyone had to correct it and say it was a scuffle.

(46:38):
I'm not going to defend what stuff or anybody else
has done here. It is sloppy, but we all make mistakes,
so glasshouses. It's also not the end of the world.
I mean, yeah, it's a mistake, but it's just a
matter of degrees. Right, there was a scuffle. They just
didn't throw punches in the scuffle. No one died, no
one lost money, no one was defamed, no one's reputation.
Reputation isn't tatters. In fact, I think this actually makes

(47:00):
the Crusaders more interesting. I think this was the most
interesting rugby story from last week. I think it will
almost certainly increase interest in the next game because there
will be a whole bunch of people like me who
will tune in just to see if we can spot
some tension between kershel Sykes, Martin and Will Tucker. And
now I know what I want to know what the
beef between the boys is. This is why ESPN, by

(47:21):
the way, sends out push notifications every time basketball players
have a fight that's called on video because people want
to see it. This is part of the reason we
love watching the NRL because we love the boys backstory.
I reckon Rob Penny that the coach read this right
at the very start. When he was asked, he said
it was a lovely sight to see. He didn't see
himhased by it at all. But then, of course the
media people and the bosses got involved, and then the

(47:42):
media was banned. Now it's a big deal. I've said
it before, I will say it again. Taking this private school,
head boy, goody two shoes approach to Rugby is boring.
I want to see more befo. I want more drama.
I want more of the backstory. I want less of
this puritanical approach. I think that might be a good.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Thing together do for Selan.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
We'll ask We'll ask Colin when he's FA's next, Heather.
I always appreciate a Friday afternoon laugh. But here is
why we're screwed as a country. If we're talking about
the lawns, omg Olivia, shut up, you fascist. It's quite
a reaction to the lawn. My friend tried this, the
rats appeared hither. Why are you trying to upset us
all with this rubbish on the lawns. I'm off to

(48:19):
mow my lawn. Hither, I bet this lady wouldn't want
her lawn growing nice and long. In Australia, lots of
slithering snakes would like that. Ha ha. Heither, my favorite
thing is watching my robot lawn mower cut my lawns.
News is next.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
The day's newsmakers talked to Heather first, Heather dups Ellen
drive with one New Zealand and the Power of Satellite
Mobile new saw said, be.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Heather with a fuel crisis. Isn't it really fortunate that
the US now has a nice friendly relationship with Venezuela.
I couldn't possibly say. By the way, on the hours
in the Mask Point thing has blown up like our
predictive it would last week. We've got the former boss
of Marsden Point who's going to be with us after
six and the sports huddle is standing by. Of course.
Now a media ban has been enforced at Crusaders training

(49:11):
after stuff and then everybody else basically misreported a punch
being thrown at training when it was more like a scuffle.
The chief executive of the Crusaders is Colin Mansbridge and
with US Hello.

Speaker 18 (49:20):
Colin Cure to Heather how are you good to chat again?

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Mate? I'm well, thank you, thanks for joining us. So
is that the rule now? Media a band forever from training?

Speaker 18 (49:31):
Isn't it interesting? How how excited some journalists can get
over some things. It's sort of that there is no ban,
but you know, a bit of jice t get it
gets added onto the incident itself, and then next minute
Maddy communicates to a few people and says, oh, look,
you know, can you be a bit tidy next time?

(49:51):
And then we're banned. We're banned, We're banned. I just
don't think it's it's a bit of a storm and
a teacup. So they're very welcome. The doors are open.
If you're a chief supporter and you turn up and
airplanes with a cow belt, it's different. But if you're
a reporter, you're welcome any time.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Didn't she say, though, I'm going to need you all
to wait in the four year until training has finished.

Speaker 18 (50:14):
Well, it's actually it's not full training.

Speaker 19 (50:15):
So there's it's a good question because there's this tension
between do we want them filming our line out moves
and our back moves and all that, and then broadcasting
them to the Highlanders or what other opposition we're playing
against before the weekend.

Speaker 18 (50:32):
And the short answer is we don't. And if you
you know, if you see what happened this time around,
somebody was taking still images when we said that's a time,
then we don't want those images taken. So we we
there is this ip thing where you don't really want
the opposition seeing what you're planning to do that weekend.

(50:53):
But in terms of filming at training, the back end
of training, when that's lesser requirement, you know, they're very welcome.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Oh so they are allowed to come down for some
of the training. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, iron time.

Speaker 18 (51:08):
Well, that's that's the process of that's the process of
where they're not doing set moves, they're not doing you know,
they're not doing line outs, you know, scrum moves or something.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Of that nature.

Speaker 18 (51:24):
So but yeah, and they're still doing other stuff and
they can still capture image and they're still welcome to
come and talk to the players.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Okay, so so let's just colin, should we help the
media to write the story then, so there's no no miscommunition.
Are you are you lifting the ban or are you
clarifying that there is no ban and it has been
misreported as a ban.

Speaker 18 (51:49):
It has been misreported as a band, so it's probably
worth clarifying. So, Maddie's got a really good relationship with
a whole lot of media, with whom many of him
with him she used to work. Now, that's interesting how
they can turn on their own sometimes she's she has
very open and honest dialogue with them on WhatsApp or

(52:10):
whatever other you know, other medium, And that's meant to
be a bit like a private chattery you wouldn't have
on the radio, but you'd have, you know, off the
radio before you do the broadcast. Some have chosen to
probably not honor the integrity of that relationship, and so
and so she said, look, I'm disappointed in a couple

(52:31):
of you. We said you weren't meant to do this
at this time, and you've done that and you've let
everybody down. And you know, that's somebody having a conversation
with a group of colleagues that she thought she had
a better relationship with. So, but there is no media band.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Now, okay, cool, Now, Colin, I want I want to
know what you think of this.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Now.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
I reckon that little things like this when we find
out a couple of players are having a bit of
beef with each other is actually good for the game,
because now I'm I now I'm interested in something that
I didn't know about fourhand. Do you see it that
way or do you see it as bad for the game?

Speaker 7 (53:03):
No?

Speaker 18 (53:04):
I think it's that there's a fine line, isn't it.
You want to see players showing a little bit of
enthusiasm excitement, and you want a bit of tension in
a camp, and at that particular time of the day,
we're doing opposed training, so that the opposition, so to
speak of preparing and planning like the opposition. So it's
actually not much less than game intensity. And so you

(53:25):
watch a game of footy and you'll see a lot
of intensity in the game and naturally it gets to
the edge sometimes, So that's you know, we would have
that happen every single training, that people get to the edge.
So you do want a bit of intensity that the
story itself is. You know, I'm actually welcome the focus
on footy. I think it's awesome what I'm probably you know,

(53:46):
I don't want to think. I don't want people to
run around thinking that we you know that it's people
bashing each other all the time. It's high intensity, it's
done at the edge, like a lot of professional sport
where there is it's physical and it's combative. You know,
it's thrilling and exciting and i'd like people to know
about that yet absolutely.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Yeah. Good, I'm pleasing here at Colin as always. I
really enjoy having you on the show. Thank you so
much mate. That's Colin Mansbridge Crusaders Chief executive, nineteen away
from six.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
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Speaker 2 (54:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
The players are very passionate about your D twenty and
I think they're right to be. You know, we're looking
forward to New Zealand Cricket making a decision shortly about
what it wants to do. It's really disappointing to see
some of the head lines around punch or thrown, and.

Speaker 15 (54:42):
Particularly from media outlets that weren't even present.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
So it just shows you the quality of that sort
of reporting.

Speaker 7 (54:48):
O GI.

Speaker 18 (54:48):
I don't know if they realize these two rugby professional
rugby teams in this city, but we do know that
they don't want us here.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
They want us to see us not do well.

Speaker 16 (54:57):
You know, not thrive.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
I struggle with that.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
On the Sports Huddle of Us this evening, Levin are
good sports journalist and Paul Allison News talk z'd be
rugby commentator, Hell are you too?

Speaker 7 (55:09):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Okay? So, I mean I think what we're doing is
we're splitting hairs ever so slightly here Levina. I think
that the media have now been been asked, let's not
use the word band, but have been told they're not
allowed to come to a certain part of training. They
can just come to the last bit.

Speaker 20 (55:22):
Yes, yeah, I think that that's the way I see
it now after that interview with Colin and explained it
quite well, and I think we all know, like there's
heaps of scuffles that happened at training, and especially when
you're with a teams that's struggling under pressure and.

Speaker 7 (55:35):
Results aren't going their way. Even that suggestion there was
a media ban just makes you feel as though there's
speculation something more is happening, and I think the Crusaders
are just trying to protect their environments to skip the ban,
Let that not happen, stop bashing the crap out of
each other at training and bash up the opposition. I
think that'll do it.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
I loved the bashing city on.

Speaker 10 (55:55):
They've got the Highland of this weekend. Don't bash up
the Highlanders, Paul.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
What do you reckon though? I mean, just on the
general principle of us knowing that maybe they're not so
perfect side of sport. You know what the boys get
up to when they're across with each other, or the
silly things like getting drunk and finding their way into
somebody's flat and eating a burger fuel in their lunge.
That kind of stuff, I reckon it makes it all
that much more interesting, don't you.

Speaker 10 (56:18):
Well, it probably does. What Colin outlined around the protocols
of media being able to attend training and what they're
able to catch, it is not anything new. That's happened
for many times and many teams where they say it's
basically they can cover some vision and that's players maybe
warming up or warming down or throwing the ball around,
but not any set moves and any of the technical stuff.

(56:39):
And so that's that's not uncommon what Colin's outlined. And
Maddie Lloyd's a pretty capable young lady who I've got
a lot of time for and I knew when she
was in Dneeda, and I think.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
She does a good job.

Speaker 10 (56:51):
I love the line though, no punchgate. This is what
this has come out to be. And you know, you
talk about intensity, you talk about physical contact, you talk
about a bit of a scuffle. I think the question
for me, though, is that you know, media is under
the spotlight a lot, and if they can't get some
of this description right in terms of accuracy, it does
water down the media's reputation. So the fact that they've

(57:12):
got this one wrong. But also I go back a
couple of years. I mean Rob Penny was the guy
under a bit of pressure. If you recall when Thomas
Mead and the viewed him for TV one. This was
TV three this time that came in and yeah that didn't.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
End well, was that what it was?

Speaker 7 (57:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (57:26):
It was he did.

Speaker 16 (57:27):
Yeah, yeah, he said.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Who was that? I loved it?

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Interesting, didn't they?

Speaker 9 (57:32):
Well, it did.

Speaker 10 (57:33):
But I think Levina is sort of right that this
is the team under a little bit of pressure at
the moment, and the fact that it's no ban, it's
been blown up out of proportion. There's now some protocols
and some communication that's been put into place. Let's move
on and let's take the hardless. Don't get beaten up
by the crusaders who Levina's talked about it's going to
beat people up.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
I love it all right, Listen you guys, I want
to know what you think of the T twenty and
all the shenanigans today. We'll talk about it next sixteen
away from six the.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
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Speaker 3 (58:05):
Right, you're back of the sports httle got Paul Allison
and Lavina God Now, Paul, should the Sri Lanka series
be moved to accommodate the NZ twenty.

Speaker 10 (58:14):
Well, Cricket's already got three formats and it's a calendar
that's probably busier than an airport at Christmas time really,
And the big thing is that we've got to make
sure that the New Zealand cricket team doesn't get watered
down in the process. I mean, New Zealand Cricket's got
some big questions to work through around the scheduling of this.
I mean they're talking about maybe postponing or deleting the

(58:34):
three one dayers and the three T twenties in January
and February next year, they've got to play the World
Test Championship because that's part of the World Test schedule.
You've got this T twenty private franchise that's being talked about,
and you need if that's going to be successful or
even established, you need the top players playing and you
can't have this T twenty being the curtain raiser of
the national team or the national team being the curtain

(58:56):
raiser to that. So I don't know how they fit
it all in. To be fair, there's too many versions
of cricket and there's not enough time to put them
all together. But that's a challenge for New Zealand cricket.
And I guess, like everybody else, they're looking for a
CEO as well, aren't they.

Speaker 9 (59:08):
So yeah, I've got enough.

Speaker 10 (59:10):
I've got enough challenges. On the hand, I don't know
what the answer.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
Is, But like you've got Okay, you've got two options, Levina,
which option do you choose? You either hold the you
hold the Sri Lanka series in January at the same
time as the T twenty and you accept that you
will have a B squad playing Sri Lanka, or you
move it so that you can have an A squad
what do you do.

Speaker 7 (59:31):
That's a very loaded question, Heather. I'm thinking the reality
of modern cricket now means franchise legs drive at the
economy of the sport, and New Zealand's one of a
few nations that just doesn't have a franchise leg that
can attract overseas stars, keep our own players here, engage
you know, maybe some more coaches, et cetera. I think

(59:52):
ideally the right combination is to find the perfect time
and not give up on the free lanker. But if
it means you've got to give up on to develop
a sport that will keep our players in this country,
it may have to be considered by New Zealand Cricket.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Okay, So Paul Lavina and I have hive mind on this.
We agree with each other. Have we convinced you?

Speaker 10 (01:00:12):
I'm not sure because I think at the moment we've
got a lot of air players playing three different versions
of cricket. I know Sifer and Allen and Ferguson a
Nisham and the like aren't contracted to New Zealand cricket,
but we still want air top players playing here. Do
they have to play in a T twenty legal do
they play for New Zealand and what version do they play?

Speaker 9 (01:00:29):
I wonder whether I think.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
I think playing for your country as the premium thing
is over because we cannot pay them what the T
twenty leagues are paying them.

Speaker 10 (01:00:36):
To give out the fans though, what do the fans want?

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
Five million people in the country, we don't count.

Speaker 10 (01:00:42):
Well you do, because if you don't have fans, you
don't have people the eyeballs on the TV set. You
don't get your revenue from the sky TV.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
We want to watch the T twenty pool.

Speaker 10 (01:00:50):
If they do, that's cool, if that's what they want,
But what do they do water down your national side?
And so that's the balancing that you've got Sri Lanka.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
So if you can move Sri Lanka, then you don't
water down.

Speaker 10 (01:01:00):
Okay, we'll move Sri Lanka then and push that back.
You've got to play the two test matches with them. Anyhow,
we come back from Australia and we take off Pakistan.
I mean it's a loaded schedule. Will chip away you
look at it next year?

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
Did you see what I just did? Levina? He agrees
with us.

Speaker 7 (01:01:12):
Now I think you can move him.

Speaker 10 (01:01:14):
The peer pressure to be fair.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
I mean, other people would call it bully and Paul,
but we won't.

Speaker 9 (01:01:22):
Yeh, yeah, you don't.

Speaker 10 (01:01:24):
Don't have to worry about human rights. LASA coming your
way here.

Speaker 7 (01:01:26):
I won't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
I won't.

Speaker 10 (01:01:27):
I won't lay one time.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
You're a good man. Thank you. Okay, listen, Paul, tell
me well, I've got you on this, Liam Lawson. Is
this his last season?

Speaker 18 (01:01:34):
No?

Speaker 10 (01:01:34):
I don't think so. You know I felt felt from
last year. We've all been there, haven't you. It's like
being stuck on a Friday night rush. Are you dashing
from work? Everyone's holding it, your late for dinner and
your car suddenly refuses to move, which is like last week.
I mean, he's the fourth most experienced formula run racing
driver we've ever had in this country, behind three great
names of Denny Old, Chris Aimon and Bruce McLaren. And

(01:01:56):
he's only in his four season. He's only twenty four
years of age, and he hasn't had any luck at
all in that period of time. I think he'll get
some breaks. I don't think this is his last season.
You know, it may well be, but I've still got
confidence in the young man and I think he's just
got to get a few breaks going his way, and
that'll build his confidence and maybe to support team around them.

Speaker 7 (01:02:15):
Leavena, I think the Red Bull system is brutal, and
from what I can tell, if you don't deliver, if
the results aren't there, there's always another young driver coming through.
So I think it possibly could be. I mean, it's
a proven year for him, and if he can't prove it,
it may be the last opportunity he'll have with Racing

(01:02:36):
Bulls or the Senior Red Bull team. He'll have to
look somewhere else. He needs results and that's why they
have him in the hot seat. Is full results. Get
the results, lave and yet you will hang around.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Yeah, I agree with that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
So Leavina, you're our resident worry is expert. Are they
going to win tonight?

Speaker 7 (01:02:53):
I'm excited. I'm really excited. I think it'll be tricky tonight.
I'm the Raiders with the minor Premier's lastyear, lost a
couple of matches in the finals, but I was just
so impressed. I think what impressed me most about the
Warriors last week wasn't the score, it was the attack.
The Warriors had multiple line breaks across the park, their
spine looks confident and they trusted each other, and they're

(01:03:16):
up against the team that is very dangerous. The Raiders
have come off a very very tight golden point win
against Manly, so they know what it's like to win.
But I think I think the Warriors have what it
takes to make it to love already in the beginning
of the season, which will reward the fans. And all
they need to do is have faith in each other
and play like they did last week and also kick tackling.

(01:03:38):
I'm loving seeing a Warriors tne back under them.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
Oh you made me feel good about it, guys, Thank
you so much. Paul Allison Levina good asports huddle seven
Away from Sex.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
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Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Seriously, hither, you aren't in any way qualified to have
views on cricket about that today? Actually, I was thinking
about texts like that. Is that an old get back
in the kitchen? Is that? Is that where that's coming from?
Like you're a woman. You may have opinions on baking
and vacuuming, but you cannot possibly have any opinions on sport.

(01:04:17):
I mean like, I don't know if you heard Levina,
but she knows nothing about it, like nothing here. She
was just talking, no idea what she was talking about,
no views at all anyway, So this is what I say.
I reckon, I have played as much cricket in my
life as Piney has. You listen to Piney. He didn't
know anything. He's not a professional sports player. I reckon.
I could take him in five workds. Oh no, no, no,

(01:04:38):
let's bit no. I reckon. I could take a wicked
five overs from him. I reckon, I could clean bowl
them or in LBW, I get one of the two,
and I would that settle it? Would would What do
you reckon?

Speaker 13 (01:04:49):
Andy?

Speaker 9 (01:04:49):
That settle it?

Speaker 21 (01:04:50):
I mean he's got a lot of leg to get
get him albw, I reckon.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
So he has, and I've got great bowling form. Oh
you were, Yeah, you're.

Speaker 21 (01:04:58):
From that pedigree as well of good South African quack.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
So oh this isn't there duplasy that that doesn't faff?
He was great, wasn't he He's basically and then what's
his name finalon different spelling, but basically my cousin. So
you know anyway, hey, do you know this? I don't
have time to tell you, but I'm going to tell
you about the CIN a minute. Do you know that
silly thing that the kids used to say, the word scucks.

(01:05:22):
Didn't choose to skucksfe skucks, choose me? You know scucks?
A famous sports person in this country invented that thing
that the kids said for decades. I'm going to tell
you about that when I get a chance in the
next hour. But next up we're going to talk about
Marsden Point. The boss of Marlesden Point is with us,
former boss and he will answer the questions on who's
to blame for shutting it down and would it have

(01:05:44):
changed anything in this oil crisis that we're having right now.
News Talk ZB.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
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and investments.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
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Speaker 9 (01:06:13):
Evening.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
Coming up in the next hour, Barry Soap is going
to wrap the political week that was for us. Peter
Lewis is going to give us the latest on what
the Asian economies are doing oil wise, and we'll also
go to Gavin Gray, who is in the UK for US.
At seven past six Now, as predicted, Marsden Marsden Point
Oil Refinery in its closure has turned into a subject
of debate. Now there have been calls to reopen the
thing as we face a potential energy crisis because of

(01:06:35):
the Iaran Ward. David Keat is a former refinery manager
at Marsden Point and is with us.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Hi David, Yeah, Hi, heada, how are you?

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
I'm very well, thank you. Do you think the country
would be in a better position if that that refinery
was still open today?

Speaker 7 (01:06:48):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (01:06:48):
Yes, without question. That's why one of the several big
reasons you might have an oil refinery, but fuel security
is definitely one of them. That was why I was
originally built in the first place in nineteen sixty four
and was expanded in the eighties for fuel security.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
If the we're told that the toge points are the
same regardless of what you're important, whether it's refined oil
or crude oil. So what would the difference be.

Speaker 16 (01:07:09):
So the price or I missed the key were there,
the wes would be different.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
It wouldn't affect our ability to get supply in because
you know that's not true.

Speaker 16 (01:07:19):
Explain to make petrol, diesel, jet fuel, bitumen the fuel
ols for the ships. Right, you need three things. You
need crude oil, you need an oil refinery, and you
need ships or pipelines to get between the three places. Right,
So there are I don't know exactly, but they're probably
more than a thousand operating oil fields around the world.
There are really an enormous number, all of which are

(01:07:41):
slightly different. When you transfer that to an oil refinery.
The oil refinery turns often a mixture into petrol and
diesel and so on. What New Zealand did when we
close our our refinery as we moved that refinery from
New Zealand to a foreign place. So I don't have
maybe a thousand sources of potential crude and a disaster

(01:08:03):
like this. You were down to saying that this one
refinery in South Korea, Well, let's say there might be three. Japan,
South Korea, and Singapore are very large export refineries in India,
but they're exporting in other places. So it really comes
down to those three. We're dependent on those or most
of the time in South Korea. So if the South

(01:08:25):
Korean refinery has to slow down because it hasn't got
enough crude or for whatever reasons, it has to supply
other customers or South carew itself. We're the last taxi
on that rank, so we're definitely more vulnerable than if
we had our own refinery.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Okay, David, So the country may regret the fact that
it has closed down. Would the private company that chose
to close it down regret it too?

Speaker 16 (01:08:46):
Oh, not at all. They did it quite deliberately. The
it should be careful, exactly what I say on air.
But no, the strategy for the companies that sold it
and bought it was for the sellers to make a
lot of money in a hurry, and the company that
brought it they had a strategy of supplying New Zealand
without an aor refinery. So there was quite a lot
of disinformation put around at the time about how it

(01:09:07):
was improfitable and small refiners were closing and so on,
most of which does not bear scrutiny. But anyway, I
think that's history in a way. I mean, it's gone,
it will never be restarted, so we kind of have
to look forward.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
There is some debate though, and I mean it is
reputational here as well, so I take your point about
looking forward, but for some reputations are on the line here,
and the Labor government has been accused of at least
aiding the closure by not trying to prevent it. Is
that fair?

Speaker 16 (01:09:36):
I think it's not on balance fair because remember this
was a commercial decision by a series of private companies
and a commercial They were acting in what they saw
as the best interests of their companies. Right, they did
need to get permission from mb and the Minister of
the time, and obvious Labor was in power for that,
but overwhelmingly the responsibil lies with the company is involved.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Yeah, I don't think it's Could we not, as a
company have have turned it into a state asset?

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (01:10:07):
Yeah, without question. Australia actually has a precedent to presidents.
They were slowly closing their all refineries over the nineties
and the noughties, and two of them were kept open
for fuel security by quite low level government subsidies. Ironically,
one of them is in Brisbane operated by the same

(01:10:27):
company that now owns said energy and closed in the
market and point Or refinery. So the crowning irony.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
So if you were to lay blame with the last government,
you could lay blame for not turning into a state asset.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Now here's a.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
Question for you. Is it true that concrete was poured
into the pipes, thereby making it impossible to reopen.

Speaker 16 (01:10:46):
I'm not sure about the story with concrete. I really
couldn't comment on that in an informed way, but I
do know that they kind of deliberately downgraded the asset
so that it could never be reopened. So it can
never be reopened. The replacement cost of the refinery is
in New Zealand dollars a minimum of five billion, probably more.

(01:11:07):
So that can't happen. There's much better ways to spend
five million dollars on energy security than in rebuilding the refinery.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
Yeah, hey, thank you for joining us and talking us
through that, David, appreciate your expertise. David Keeth, former Marsden
Point Refinery manager, twelve plus.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Six ever dup c Ellen.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
So, I was going to tell you that I'm going
to tell you this thing about skarks and where it
comes from, but I think that there's more important thing
to just tell you after that conversation with David, So,
I mean, I think that settled it, didn't it, Which
was that? Yeah, sure it was the z Energy guys
who shut it down for their own benefit. Government could
have stepped in and chose not to step in and
save the thing if it was even possible, And it's

(01:11:48):
a mistake that we can now look back on and
maybe we need to think about our own security a
little bit more, right, fuel security, food security, all the
other securities as well, energy security. Take the stuff a
little bit more seriously. Not going to happen. I think
we're all still of the view that is probably not
going to happen that we end up with a fuel shortage.
But should a fuel shortage actually end up happening in
the country, how this would look is probably We've got

(01:12:10):
some clues from the nineteen eighty one law, which the
officials have apparently dusted off to try to figure out,
you know, to help them maybe manage the fuel demand.
Apparently the law does things like it allows the government
to ban people from filling the jerry cans and other
containers to basically prevent the hoarding it sets. It gives
the government powers to set maximum limits on how much

(01:12:31):
fuel any individual could buy on a single visit. It
allows them to issue coupons to ration purchases. It can
allow them to force petrol stations to change their hours
or open only on alternate days, and in the worst case,
it restricts pumps only to so called critical customers. Critical
customers are obviously things like emergency vehicles, hospital vehicles, correction

(01:12:53):
facility vehicles, and in some cases the generators that they
that they may need to run food supply chains and utilities.
We'll get de stucks in a minute. Fourteen past six.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
It's the Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on
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Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
South Korea has moved to cap the fuel price starting
today to ease the burden on the consumers. So we'll
check in with Peter Lewis. That's the very thing that
Nikola Willis has ruled out doing in New Zealand, although
I suspect if it came to it, she would probably
back down on it. Anyway, we will talk to Peter
Lewis when he's with us out of Asia shortly right
now at seventeen past six, now wrapping the political week,
that was. We have Barry Soper, senior political correspondent. Welcome back, Barry.

Speaker 14 (01:13:48):
Oh again, we'll here the much more informed I am.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
Now who appointed Paul Eagle?

Speaker 14 (01:13:53):
The council, The council appointed them, and the mayor council,
the Chattam Marlins.

Speaker 3 (01:13:57):
Count Okay, okay, So it's not really a job for
the boys, is it. It's it's that's a legitimate process.

Speaker 14 (01:14:03):
Well, you know he was the MP I guess for
the Chatham Islands.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
But I mean they might have You can see how
that would happen. You're out on the Chatham Islands. You've
only got six hundred people. You probably don't get like
a really great, you know, bunch of candidates for a
job like that. And then you get this guy. He's
been a mayor, always run for the mayor. He's been
an MP's of Wellington as well. Yeah, he's a big
week from the city. So you think, wow, we've scored

(01:14:28):
big time with it.

Speaker 14 (01:14:29):
I think I might apply for the job.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
I mean it's true and not about Hey, I heard
the accommodation is really nice.

Speaker 14 (01:14:38):
Mila Applions.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
Now do you think that it was a bit was
it over hype? The treatment of Luxe and or was
it fair?

Speaker 14 (01:14:46):
Well, look, it was this time last week, well an
arrow earlier that Luxon was on your show and said
that he had no intention of thinking about his future
over the weekend and certainly was going to stand aside.
And you know, he faced off his caucus on Tuesday.
No problems because they all know that it's far too

(01:15:10):
close to an election to have a change in leader.
And a lot of people will say, well, and on
Labor did it in twenty seventeen, Well they did, but
then Jasinda Dern was a different kettle of fish, young,
not unattractive and certainly appealed to the public with the disindomania.
But National really has got no one like that. And

(01:15:32):
thank goodness because we saw what happened when you went
on Charisma Only and you know, six years later the
country's in the struck.

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
Yeah, But Mary, I mean, the thing is, look, I
know it's been described as a storm in a teacup,
but I really don't think it is. If you've got
polling that's trending down in the way that it is,
they are in big trouble, like they're going to lose
a lot of MP's of it.

Speaker 14 (01:15:53):
Well, what you'll see is, I wo'd imagine is the
same coalition government after November the SEI, but there.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
Will be more more New Zealand.

Speaker 14 (01:16:05):
And yes, so the power of National will probably be
whittled away to some extent. And then you have the
prospect and a lot of people have talked about it
of Winston Peters maybe demanding eighteen months as Prime minister,
and I wouldn't put it past him. I mean, it's
it'll be his last election. He'll be eighty one come

(01:16:27):
the election and would probably quite like a taste of
the job, although he has had that in thement.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
She's honestly, give the guy a turn, just for sake
him out of and give him.

Speaker 14 (01:16:38):
He's made enough governance to be able to know what
it takes to be a good primate.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
Okay, I'm interested in whether you think that Chris Hopkins,
I mean, Chris Hopkins hasn't come out of the COVID
inquiry terribly, but he also hasn't come out of it
super well. And Aucklanders who are angry with him, it
just makes us as angry as we were before. But
is it going to influence our vote or is our
vote already locked.

Speaker 14 (01:16:59):
In which I know, I think, particularly here in Auckland,
I think you know, there will be some ill will
spilling into the ballot box come November, because.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
It's already going to happens.

Speaker 14 (01:17:12):
It had already happened at the last election. But I
think the fact that this COVID reporters come out and
it showed probably the most serious thing was that they
didn't pass on information. This is he and Ai Cheveril,
the Health Minister, about the dangers of giving a second
COVID JAB to under eighteen year olds. So you know

(01:17:33):
that's bad because the official advice was that it could
lead to my carditis. But it really hasn't because you know,
you go and look at the figures, maybe possibly twenty
people have got and I suppose twenty is certainly too many,
and that sort of advice should have been handed on

(01:17:55):
certainly from the pulpit of truth.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
We will never forgive them for matter how much did
you love what Brian Roach did with the teacher's union.

Speaker 14 (01:18:03):
Oh, I think it's an amazing turn of events because
I can't remember that ever being done. I mean, it's
you'd have to say, if you're thumping the husting's table,
you'd have to say, look, this is undermining the union.
This is union busting if you like, and it is
no doubt about it. You pay people that are not

(01:18:26):
members of the union and hold up those who are
members of the union who haven't even had the opportunity
to look at the offer yet. I assume they have now,
and I would imagine they'll be settling fairly soon because
you imagine the staff rooms at the primary schools. At
the moment you've got non unionized labor, you've got unionized labor.

(01:18:48):
The non unionized more money in their pockets. Maybe they
should turn on morning tea for the unionized members.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
Barry, Thank you very much, rupreciate it, Barry Soper wrapping
the political week that was six twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
Whether it's macro, micro or just plain economics, it's all
on the business hour with head the duper SILA and
MAS insurance and investments.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Your futures in good hands. Used talks vy all right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
So you know the silly thing that the kids used
to say, skucks. Didn't choose to skuck side skuts, I
choose me. Well, it turns out the word skuks was
actually invented by none other than Martin nou So back
in nineteen ninety seven, he and his mate, we're watching
Tali after school and the more Tees ice cream ad
is that Hey browns. Anyway, the ice cream ad came
on and this is what it sounded like, Skarko Marto

(01:19:39):
dare to indulge. So it's the Skarko Martel thing that
started off. That means check made in Italian. And so
they wondered what the some worn transliteration of Skarko Marto
would be. So they came up with skick sikkaki and
they used to get our kids are they'd yell at
it out of each other when they were pulling pranks
and being being bits of dickheads and stuff. And so
it went from sikkhaki to skucky to skuck to sku

(01:20:00):
and from there it just took on its life of
its own. It was usually used in the early twenties
to describe Pacifica men who were following the fashion trends
that had the jelled hair. You need to think omc
here gelled hair, flat iron, bleached yellow tips, all of
that stuff. Anyway, Apparently, according to some reports, the term
died off in the mid twenty tens because white people
started using it. Basically, white people started using it. It made

(01:20:22):
it uncle anyway. Maybe it's also because people who looked
skucks became extinct, but there you go. It came from Marunanu.
So Rugby is is not as only claim to fames
six twenty six.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
There's no business like show business.

Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
Now, if you watch Maths, you'll know who mal Shilling is.
Mal Shilling has given an update on her cancer. It's
not looking good because it's got into her brain. So
she got the colon cancer in twenty twenty three, had
it removed, was told she was in the clare. A
year later, some cancer nodules were found in her lugs, lungs.
Now it's in her brain. She's posted an update to Instagram.
It's got a photo of herself, of her husband and
her daughter, and she said she's got head and numbness.

(01:21:01):
Doctors told her there's nothing more they can do for her.
She's undergo undergone sixteen rounds of chemotherapy while filming the
latest season of Maths. But a few weeks ago she
announced she's going to be stepping back from the show
to focus on her health because she's got no treatment
options available. She now says she doesn't know how much
time she has left. And of course, as you can imagine,
it is the talk of Maths fans who are completely

(01:21:23):
gripped by the show and devastated by the news. And
hopefully this goes as well for her as can possibly
be expected, because it's pretty grim news for her. Right,
Peter Lewis is going to be with us next. It's
going to talk us through what's going on in Asia
re the oil crisis, and I suppose the implications for
us there on in newstalksz'd be.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
And everything from SMEs to the big corporates, The Business
Hour with Heather dupic Allen and MAS Insurance and investments,

(01:22:13):
Your futures in good hands used.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
Talk Zippy.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
Firs zed Cashmere at ten to four just before you
came on the radio. Ninety one was two dollars ninety nine.
I've just driven past again and it's now three dollars
two cents zero point nine, so it's gone up. What's
three cents?

Speaker 9 (01:22:34):
Thank you for that?

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
Well, it moves very very quickly. Right, it's twenty four
away from seven, and Peter Lewis, our Asia business correspondent,
is with us. Hello, Peter Good evening Hella. Okay, so
what are the Asian economies doing to deal with what's
going on with oil?

Speaker 22 (01:22:47):
Well, that what they're worried about is that we're going
to get an energy driven inflation shock. The problem for
Asian economies and a lot of others around the world
is that about twenty million barrels per day of oil
comes through the strait of hor Moves and lots of
other things as well that are absolutely essential to supply chain. So,

(01:23:07):
for example, fertilizer, a large part of that is produced
in Qatar and Saudi Arabia. If the price of fertilizer
goes up or there are shortages, then the price of
food goes up as well. So we don't really know
at the moment just how big the consequences of this
are going to be. But I've seen estimates that suggest

(01:23:29):
that if oil remains above one hundred dollars about for
any extended period of time, it could, by the end
of the year add maybe one percent, perhaps even one
and a half percent to inflation. So you're going to
see that as you've just described, for example, at the
petrol pumps, you'll see prices rising there very quickly. That

(01:23:50):
will lower growth. The IMF is estimating growth could fall
globally by as much as one percent, and in turn,
the central banks around the world will be in a
very difficult position because rather than cutting rates as has
been the case recently, they may have to turn around
and raise rates instead to stop this inflation taking hold.

(01:24:13):
So it's a very difficult situation some countries, the bigger countries,
tend to be better prepared for this. So China, for example,
has got the world's biggest stockpiles of oil. It's got
about one point two billion barrels. Japan has got about
two hundred and fifty days worth of reserves. And it

(01:24:34):
tends to be the smaller countries that most of all
suffer from this, that they're the ones that first see
this inflation shock, and they're the ones that see growth
slow down sharply, and in the worst case scenario, they
end up seeing their economies becoming completely derailed by this.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
Right, So this talk of car pooling in four day
weeks as the series.

Speaker 22 (01:24:57):
Yeah, it's happening ready. If you look at Vietnam, for example,
they're tapping into an emergency fund that they've set up
to try and subsidize fuel prices, so they're actually dispersing
money from this stabilization fund for each leader of gasoline

(01:25:18):
and these all that's purchased to try and bring it down.
Thailand is doing a similar thing. You've got in the
Philippines governments. They're ordering officials there to limit official travel.
You've got other countries that are starting to implement four
day weeks. Thailand's governments has told most of its staff

(01:25:40):
to stay at home. You've got similar things going on
in India and Bangladesh. So yeah, so it is actually
very serious. The governments around the region are very worried
about this, and at all costs they're trying to avoid
this spike in fuel prices be so damaging to their economies.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
Okay, and what is this investing in people strategy that
China's up to.

Speaker 22 (01:26:07):
Yes, this has come out of the two sessions which
finished earlier in the week, and part of that was
the new five year plan, which is going to take
the economy up until twenty thirty. The issue for China
is they've got to pivot away from this export driven,
very heavy investment driven model and rely more on domestic

(01:26:31):
demand and get people to go out and spend and
to get consumption up as a percentage of the economy
more to sort of Western levels. So Beijing has set
seven livelihood related targets because the belief is and rightly so,
that if you can provide more support networks, for example,

(01:26:53):
help women get back into the workforce, then that will
help the the domestic demand and get people spending. So
they're looking at things like longer education for the working
age population, expanding senior care capacity, having more doctors, pledging

(01:27:14):
more support for childbearing and so on, and then people
will feel more confident about their economic situation and about
their financial situation and as a result will go out
and spend. And of course there's a huge domestic market
there to go and spend in. It's just at the

(01:27:35):
moment people just don't want to do it. They're worried
about losing their jobs. The unemployment rate is high. They're
worried about their homes. They're seeing the value of their
properties been declining now every year for the past five years.
So this is a top priority for China to try
and focus on domestic consumption rather than expanding exports month

(01:27:59):
after month than we saw in the first two months
of the year. Another big jump in exports from China
around the world, and that big trade surplus that it
has one point two trillion dollars a year is just
not getting any smaller. If anything, it's getting bigger.

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
YEA, hey, thank you very much, Peter. It's always good
to talk to you, and we'll talk to you again
next week's stay safe. That's Peter Lewis, our Asia business correspondent,
eighteen away from seven. Eatherether Oh, this is this is
they're having a crack at me over my sports views.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
Heather.

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
It's because your view is way too simplistic. You had
a purely commercial view. This country is poor. We'd have
nothing if we took a purely commercial view on everything. Well,
we'd have money if we took a purely commercial view
on anything. So you probably undermined your own argument there.
But look, this is a will I will concede. This
is a potential problem with my view of sport, and
that I do. I do like the idea that netball

(01:28:53):
might make some money and be able to pay its
players properly and wash its own face, saying with cricket,
saying with rugby. So so, yeah, if you're of the
view that it should be subsidized by the taxpayer not
make enough money to pay its players properly. Then we
are never going to agree with each other on that.

Speaker 20 (01:29:10):
I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
I was gonna say I didn't know this, but literally
none of us knew this until today because it has
been kept secret. But Iran's most senior diplomat in Australia
actually defected to Australia and received asylum three years ago.
It as the former charged affair at the embassy in Canberra.
It's only come to light today. It doesn't appear that
Australia was going to release this information at all, at

(01:29:32):
least not officially by itself. It wasn't going to front
foot it. It only came to light because there is
a London based media outfit called the Iran International News Service,
which has nothing to do with the regime. It seems
to be like as it says, independent, and it reported
today that this had happened three years ago, and as
a result it has now been confirmed. But yeah, the
five football players defecting to Australia is nothing new by

(01:29:56):
the looks of things. Also, if you're wondering what's going
on with I think we all are. What's going on
with the new Ayatollah, with the new Supreme Leader. Is
he alive? Is he well? We haven't heard from him
since the bombing. I haven't heard from him since the bombing.
I haven't seen him put out a statement. But I
could put out a statement, couldn't I. It could be
somebody else putting out of statement for me. We now know,

(01:30:19):
of course, since yesterday, that he was in the attack
that killed his father and his son and his mother
and his wife, and he received some injuries apparently to
the arms and the legs and stuff like that, and
was in hospital. So that's a mystery in and of itself.
But now there's a mystery around his mother, the former
Supreme Leader's wife. Iranian state media set on Thursday that,

(01:30:41):
contrary to earlier reports, she's actually survived the attack. They
report two days after the attack, they said that she'd
died in a coma. Apparently not true alive after all.
So the mystery deepens.

Speaker 9 (01:30:53):
Do isn't it?

Speaker 3 (01:30:54):
Sixteen away from seven?

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
Ever's to do with money? It matters to you The
Business Hour with Heather Dupas Allen and Mayor's Insurance and Investments.
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Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
Evening herether read the petrol price BP and Palmeerston North
was three dollars thirty this morning for ninety eight. Now
it's three dollars thirty six this afternoon. Jesus, we carry
on like this, We're going to start the panic buying ourselves.
Thirteen away from seven and Gavin Gray are UK correspondents
with US Allo Gevin Hi. So British forces are involved
in the war, are they?

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
Yes, they've become involved in the war.

Speaker 23 (01:31:29):
They have been sharing a base in a Bila in Iran, sorry,
in Iraq, when that base was hit by a number
of UAVs that's so called unmanned aerial vehicles or drones,
of course, and they managed to get a couple two

(01:31:50):
Iranian drones were shot down overnight, but others did get
through and did damage the base, which is the capital
of the Kurdistan region, and that did injure a number
of US troops. There have been no British casualties, thankfully,
but nevertheless casualties on the American side there, and they're
saying that the base has been struck a number of times.

(01:32:12):
So the Defense Secretary has also said that the UK
has flown air combat patrols over Jordan, the United Arab
Emirates and KATA saying that the RAF jets are continuing
to fly in defense of Cyprus and added as well,
the UK clocked up more than three hundred pilot flying
hours over the last thirteen days. So that does suggest

(01:32:33):
the UK is becoming more and more involved in this,
and the news that they've shot down some drains drones
will actually, I think support those that are saying, you know,
we're playing this defensive role and playing it well but
not wanting to get involved in the instead of opposing
force measures.

Speaker 3 (01:32:52):
And so what's this chapin do buy in trouble for?

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
Yeah, this is an extraordinary story.

Speaker 23 (01:32:58):
But a sixty year old British Man and a tourist
in Dubai has been detained under cyber crime laws. Now,
what we think he's been up to, but the evidence
is very vague and this is only through secondhand as
it were, is that his phone was inspected by a
police officer and he had taken film of an Iranian

(01:33:19):
drone flying into the United Arab Emirates. Now, there is
a law in the UAE saying that you should not
publish or share material that could disturb public security. And
it's been estimated by one group that twenty one people
have now been charged under this cyber crime law for

(01:33:39):
having something on their phone that they filmed while they're
in the country. And I'm just saying this is absolutely crazy.
Of course, what it is about, without doubt is that
protection of reputation that the United Arab Emirates do buy
a safe place to go and travel, very clean, very
very nice, and all the rest of it. But of
course we do know that some of the most iconic

(01:33:59):
buildings have been damaged by Iranian drones, like the Fairmont,
the Palm Hotel, the luxurious Palm Jamrr area, that Burge
Al Arab Hotel have all been here, and these pictures
have been on our news, and yet it would appear
that anyone who's there should not be filming.

Speaker 3 (01:34:14):
Well yeah apparently. So now, okay, tell me what the
problem with the weather aps is.

Speaker 23 (01:34:19):
Well, this is a story that's just sort of come
out because there is now a group of eighty outdoor
attractions here in the UK and they're saying that the
way whether apps present the weather with a single picture
or a couple of words is very misleading and it's
costing them a lot of money. Here in the UK
we have an expression four seasons in one day. In

(01:34:41):
other words, they can be lovely bright sunshine for part
of the day, but potentially very heavy rain or great
cool another.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
Part of the day.

Speaker 23 (01:34:49):
And they're saying one single picture from a weather app
can actually put people off.

Speaker 9 (01:34:54):
They say, for.

Speaker 23 (01:34:54):
Instance, the other day there was a rain single signal
over the day, and in fact only two or three
hours of daylight had rain.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
The rest was all clear.

Speaker 23 (01:35:06):
And yet of course they think that it can lead
to thirty percent drop in business by people seeing a
weather app single image. So they're saying, look, please, can
we be more detailed?

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:35:16):
I have some sympathy for this argument, Gavin, thank you
for that. I appreciate it. Kevin Gray, UK corresponding reason
I have sympathy for the argument is because when we
were in the Coromandel, I was talking to the lady
who runs the cafe shop down the bottom of the hill,
and she said to me that business had dropped off
because there had been this forecast of terrible rain by
the Met Service. Now it might be I might be
unfairly maligning the Met Service here. I just I'm assuming

(01:35:39):
that the other ones that do the little Google app,
you know Google app, I'm in the phone app. What
if an iPhone app? You click on the thing and
then it gives you like every hour has like the symbol. Anyway,
she said that had just driven all these these domestic
tourists away because it looked like it was going to
be rain for weeks on end. And Coromander, we had
the loveliest summer we did. So the iPhone app send
everybody home. So maybe, yeah, if we could, or like alternatively,

(01:36:03):
we could learn to read it properly because when it
says thirty percent rain, it actually means there's a greater
chance of no rain. Do you know what I mean?
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Eight away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
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Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
Lord do I need to warn that guy who texts
me about me thinking things are too commercial. I'm going
to read you out what our players got at the
auction for the hundred, which is that cricket league over
in the UK. So Finn Allen came in with the
top price for a Kiwi player. He's been bought by
the Trent Rockets for three hundred and sixty four thousand
New Zealand dollars. Well done. That's a nice pay packet
for playing in a twur and of ind A. Couldn't

(01:36:56):
mind that. Matt Henry also at the Rockets one hundreds
five one hundred and seventy thousand dollars. That'll pay for
the two children. Tim Seifert the Manchester Super Giants two
two seven so two hundred and twenty seven thousand dollars.
Locky Ferguson is going to the Welsh Fire for the
same price two hundred and twenty seven thousand dollars. Trent
Bolt is going to m I London for two hundred
and twenty seven thousand dollars. Adam Milne has gone to
the London Spirit one hundred and thirteen thousand dollars the

(01:37:19):
highest price. This is the thing I think is cool.
The highest price that anyone attracted was eight hundred and
eighty eight thousand dollars and it was a twenty one
year old spinner who's completely uncapped.

Speaker 21 (01:37:30):
James Coles, How good is that I gave up cricket
to early header? Me too, Yeah, exactly. You probably would
get me out, actually, grant you reckon, Yeah, yeah, what.

Speaker 3 (01:37:40):
Are your's Your speciality?

Speaker 21 (01:37:41):
Well, I was a league spin bowler, but before long
I stopped being able to spin the ball, so I
just became a slow, straight bowler, which is not.

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
That great, which doesn't want so and straight and on.

Speaker 21 (01:37:54):
Once they work you out, it's oh, this one's slant straight, yeah, variety.

Speaker 19 (01:37:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:38:00):
I was more of a batsman, and I with the
baars ball approach was my speciality. Just go in and
smash that thing around exactly fair enough.

Speaker 21 (01:38:08):
And in all honesty, I was probably a number eight
batsman that didn't bowl. So I was a fielder.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
Oh okay, but you know what John t taught us,
You can you can turn that into a craft.

Speaker 21 (01:38:20):
Can absolutely mardened up to a Lubin's and some of
the great fielders as well. Anyway, need one of those
Cassie Henderson announcing her Lightning and the Star still playing
in christ Dutch in Auckland this April. Tickets go on
sale Monday the sixteenth. Oh, that's this Monday, Monday the sixteenth,
the March. So seconds to midnight will take us out either.

Speaker 3 (01:38:38):
Oh, she's the key week bird, the kybird who's done
quite well for herself. Yeah, all right, and sounds a
little bit like Tata from time to time.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
We'll help you do well.

Speaker 3 (01:38:47):
I suppose I noticed you have no comment on it.

Speaker 21 (01:38:50):
He's like, I don't know, I don't really know if
ye're pass the cricket.

Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
Actually enjoy your weekend. Go the Wars, up the Wars
as the kid Sam, we'll see you on Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
Just saidstolate night.

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
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