John Battersby: Massey University Senior Fellow at the Centre for Defence and Security Studies on the concerns around extremist content

Young men are increasingly the focus of our security agencies - as they're captured by extremist content online. 

That's according to the boss of the Security Intelligence Service, who fronted MPs at Parliament yesterday. 

Massey University Senior Fellow at the Centre for Defence and Security Studies, John Battersby, says many of those being radicalised are isolated. 

"I think we're probably talking about a fairly small minority of individuals who possibly don't feel they belong somewhere - a little bit detached from the real world.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Question for you, is it possible that the age of
trade me being used for the buying and selling of
secondhand household items is over? I asked this because trade
me is clearly realized it's got a problem. Right. It's
announced today that it's going to be scrapping it's eight
percent success fee because customers have told them the fees
they charged it is far too high. I couldn't agree more.
I sawd a bunch of baby stuff I wasn't using
anymore on trade me last month. It was like a

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rocker and a bath and a baby food cooker, that
kind of thing. I will never use trade me for
that again. By the time I'd taken the photos and
then put the ads up, then sold the things, then
box them up, then marched them down to the post shop,
then dispatched them to bloody Sedden, and then gone back
to the buyer to tell them the cost of the postage.
It wasn't worth my while it was way too much admin,

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but especially when I saw how little money I was
actually getting for all of that effort. After trade me
had taken out an eight percent success fee and then
two percent for using their ping payment service, which they
own and then about six dollars just for listing the
item in a decent way. There wasn't actually that much left.
If you're selling something for about fifty bar you've lost
eleven of that to them, as about twenty percent of it.

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And most of the stuff I sold sold for a song,
and some of the stuff I could just couldn't sell
at all. Maybe part of the problem is that you
don't have to go to trade me anymore to get
something for a good price. It is now the age
of the cheap shop that is actually still quite cool,
because why would you spend one hundred bucks on a
secondhand breast pump when you can just go down to
kmart and buy a decent one for forty five dollars.

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And if that's the money I'm now getting, I may
as well just give my stuff to my friend who's
just had a baby instead of spending the admin on
collecting a little bit of money for myself. I just
wonder if, with Facebook's marketplace being free for buyers and
sellers and kmart being affordable and reasonably cool, the age
of buying other people's second hands on trade me is
coming to an end. For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive.

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