January 21, 2026 • 6 mins
Tonight on The Huddle, Phil O'Reilly from Iron Duke Partners and Jack Tame from ZB's Saturday Mornings and Q&A joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more!
We've finally got an election date - it's November 7th. Who do we think will win at this stage? Any other predictions?
New data shows 65 percent of Kiwis want to ban under-16s from social media. Will this be a vote winner this election cycle?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here to wake us up. Jack Tame, host of Saturday
Mornings and Q and a Jack Good evening.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Good evening, Ryan, you should have stuck with the Argentina question. Honestly,
I want to know more about it.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
I know, I know, very cool and he got to
meet him and he went to his office and all
that stuff. Hey, fellow, ridings with us as well. I'm
do partners feel good evening.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
There you go, mate, And and I've had a few
decent sized stakes in Argentina. They are just the best
steaks outside of New Zealand. Of course I'm a very
law man, but the stakes in Argentina, havel, I'm about
mid night sess the nature of the beast. But fantastic
place Argentina. I agree with David on that's a great spot.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, beautiful. Right, let's talk about that. So we've got
an election date. Either of you raise your hand, will
say your name, willing to take a punt on the outcome?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah, there we go. The two things that you've got
to worry about with election of your government or the
opporitiontional one is is the economic recovery that's currently going
on going to be widely felt by New Zealanders right
by November, and that's what was just talking about them
and ago he put it more nicely than that, but
he's really saying the government wants some time to see
that this government recovery is going to go on. The
(01:08):
second thing is does the government get to own it?
Does the government get to say to New Zealand as well,
we help that, we help that come and as a result,
you should vote for us. It's not the other mob,
because they'll up your taxes or whatever the lines they use.
And that's where you've got to make a guest. Now
I'm going to make a view and where we're sitty
taking this view in our business. It's most likely that
there does actually a care in that the government's re
elected in some form, but g it's a close run thing.
(01:29):
And bear in mind, even if the government is reelected,
it won't be the same government. Even if Luxelon is
the Prime Minister in November, it will be a different
form of government. There will be a different mix of
the of the party. So I think I think at
this moment it's a close run thing, but it's most
likely I think the government gets re elected, but GEO
could easily come up with another proposition just the opposite Jack.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I think, as it stands today, Ryan, I think it's likelier,
much likelier, that some version of the current government or
something adjacent to the current government is returned. I don't
know if I put a number on it, but I
think that's much more likely than a labor leed government
being in government next.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I think there are.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Two big risks I think about when I think about
the current government, Christopher Luxen and Precipitns the opposition. On
the opposition side, I think by the timing of the
economic recovery, there is a risk that seven or eight
months from now they are going to be arguing to
New Zealanders about how bad the economy has been rather
(02:28):
than what people are actually experiencing. And that if you're
trying to say, hey, stuff's really really bad and people
are actually feeling a little bit of optimism in the
economy for the first time in a couple of years,
that's a very tricky place to.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Be as an opposition.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
And I think on the government side of things, a
black Swan event like is it totally incomprehensible that we
could see the US move against Greenland, that we could
see action in the Taiwan Straate or something like that
over the next nine months. That might once again put
a massive spanner in the works of the global economy,
which I think would play against the current government there.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Because I was thinking about that this morning.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Jack.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Do you think that would play against the government or
do you think, as was the case in Australia with
the terrorists, actually it could play to the favor of
let's stick with the you know, the devil we know.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, honestly, I don't know. I mean, I don't know
that Christopher Luxen has necessarily connected with people in a
way that he would have hoped he has over you know,
over the last couple of years. Would that mean that
people turfed out the current government and appointed labor and
a glimb of in a moment of you know, topsy
(03:33):
turbinus internationally, I don't know. It also depends on where
the Americans actually are, Like, would we be positioned against
the Americans in a black spot? It's one event, who knows, honestly,
it's just like putting your finger in the air and guessing.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
But that the US midterms take place, the US midterm elections,
which could lose Trump quite a lot of power on
the US take place November the third, four days before
the election, so there's going to be a lot of
hoop plower around that, a lot of instability clearly in
the US domestic political seeing the most consequential elections of
the year. I start that. So to Jack's point, I
agree with them that these risks are a risk for
(04:04):
the government just as much as they are for the opposition.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, which means vote on election day, don't go early
because you need all the information you can get. Jack
Team and Phill O'Riley on the huddle tonight, guys, Jack
will start with you on the social media ban under sixteens.
There's this poll from the Post that says sixty five
percent would support it. What do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I'm I'm honestly surprised it's not higher Asian womens of
the poll. I was like, oh, we're under sixteen allowed
to vote on this as well.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I reckon.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I reckon in a couple of years that this is
this is going to be the norm among countries that
we usually compare ourselves with. I reckon, like a lot
of OCD countries are not OCD as opposed to OCD.
I think you're going to follow this pass, not including
the United States for obvious reasons. But I think unless
(04:53):
as a real catastrophe in Australia, this is going to
become the kind of mainstream policy of a lot of
interrist parties.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Around the world.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, how to argue with that?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Fell, Yeah, I think and I agree with that. What
was interesting about that survey result was that the majority
of eighteen year olds thought that was a good idea.
Interesting a. So even those who were very close to
being part of the band, even a majority of them
said it's a good idea to do this. And Jack Swright,
I think what's happening in Australia. It's imperfect. I see
something like four million accounts have been closed down and
(05:24):
some of the complaints are all the kids had to
stop on Whatsapple one of those one of those message
ups that's not yet been banned for them. And so
that the point is that yes, it's imperfect, and yes
to be all sorts of work arounds and people screwing
the scrum if you like, and getting online with different
personas that's on, And that goes back to parental responsibility.
Those parents should really be helping this because there's no
question that the evidence is in on this. Social media
(05:46):
is harmful to those to young people in many many,
not all, but in many, many circumstances. And I agree
with Jack. I think the Australian experience imperfect. Though it is,
I think will be copied and is being copied. You're
hearing it being talked about in the UK and elsewhere
it so I think the government will announce it and
I think it'll be very popular amongst their potential voters.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
It's one of those things where people know it's bad
for them, but they can't stop it, and they almost
want someone else to tell them that they can't.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
You know, there is there is like a.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Speech stuff there. There are some pre speech you know,
concerns and some personal liberty concerns. I'm sure if you
asked David Seymore he would take a very different position
to a lot of other people about the band. But
I mean, this is the good thing about having Australia right.
We can we can watch very closely how things go
over the next six months or so. It might be
(06:38):
you know, a little early for really detailed data as
the overall effects on kids, but we've got a perfect
test case.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Just over the day, Jack Tame Pillow Riley on the Huddle.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to
news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
Here to wake us up. Jack Tame, host of Saturday
Mornings and Q and a Jack Good evening.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Good evening, Ryan, you should have stuck with the Argentina question. Honestly,
I want to know more about it.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
I know, I know, very cool and he got to
meet him and he went to his office and all
that stuff. Hey, fellow, ridings with us as well. I'm
do partners feel good evening.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
There you go, mate, And and I've had a few
decent sized stakes in Argentina. They are just the best
steaks outside of New Zealand. Of course I'm a very
law man, but the stakes in Argentina, havel, I'm about
mid night sess the nature of the beast. But fantastic
place Argentina. I agree with David on that's a great spot.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah, beautiful. Right, let's talk about that. So we've got
an election date. Either of you raise your hand, will
say your name, willing to take a punt on the outcome?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah, there we go. The two things that you've got
to worry about with election of your government or the
opporitiontional one is is the economic recovery that's currently going
on going to be widely felt by New Zealanders right
by November, and that's what was just talking about them
and ago he put it more nicely than that, but
he's really saying the government wants some time to see
that this government recovery is going to go on. The
(01:08):
second thing is does the government get to own it?
Does the government get to say to New Zealand as well,
we help that, we help that come and as a result,
you should vote for us. It's not the other mob,
because they'll up your taxes or whatever the lines they use.
And that's where you've got to make a guest. Now
I'm going to make a view and where we're sitty
taking this view in our business. It's most likely that
there does actually a care in that the government's re
elected in some form, but g it's a close run thing.
(01:29):
And bear in mind, even if the government is reelected,
it won't be the same government. Even if Luxelon is
the Prime Minister in November, it will be a different
form of government. There will be a different mix of
the of the party. So I think I think at
this moment it's a close run thing, but it's most
likely I think the government gets re elected, but GEO
could easily come up with another proposition just the opposite Jack.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I think, as it stands today, Ryan, I think it's likelier,
much likelier, that some version of the current government or
something adjacent to the current government is returned. I don't
know if I put a number on it, but I
think that's much more likely than a labor leed government
being in government next.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I think there are.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Two big risks I think about when I think about
the current government, Christopher Luxen and Precipitns the opposition. On
the opposition side, I think by the timing of the
economic recovery, there is a risk that seven or eight
months from now they are going to be arguing to
New Zealanders about how bad the economy has been rather
(02:28):
than what people are actually experiencing. And that if you're
trying to say, hey, stuff's really really bad and people
are actually feeling a little bit of optimism in the
economy for the first time in a couple of years,
that's a very tricky place to.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Be as an opposition.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
And I think on the government side of things, a
black Swan event like is it totally incomprehensible that we
could see the US move against Greenland, that we could
see action in the Taiwan Straate or something like that
over the next nine months. That might once again put
a massive spanner in the works of the global economy,
which I think would play against the current government there.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Because I was thinking about that this morning.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Jack.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Do you think that would play against the government or
do you think, as was the case in Australia with
the terrorists, actually it could play to the favor of
let's stick with the you know, the devil we know.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, honestly, I don't know. I mean, I don't know
that Christopher Luxen has necessarily connected with people in a
way that he would have hoped he has over you know,
over the last couple of years. Would that mean that
people turfed out the current government and appointed labor and
a glimb of in a moment of you know, topsy
(03:33):
turbinus internationally, I don't know. It also depends on where
the Americans actually are, Like, would we be positioned against
the Americans in a black spot? It's one event, who knows, honestly,
it's just like putting your finger in the air and guessing.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
But that the US midterms take place, the US midterm elections,
which could lose Trump quite a lot of power on
the US take place November the third, four days before
the election, so there's going to be a lot of
hoop plower around that, a lot of instability clearly in
the US domestic political seeing the most consequential elections of
the year. I start that. So to Jack's point, I
agree with them that these risks are a risk for
(04:04):
the government just as much as they are for the opposition.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, which means vote on election day, don't go early
because you need all the information you can get. Jack
Team and Phill O'Riley on the huddle tonight, guys, Jack
will start with you on the social media ban under sixteens.
There's this poll from the Post that says sixty five
percent would support it. What do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I'm I'm honestly surprised it's not higher Asian womens of
the poll. I was like, oh, we're under sixteen allowed
to vote on this as well.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I reckon.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I reckon in a couple of years that this is
this is going to be the norm among countries that
we usually compare ourselves with. I reckon, like a lot
of OCD countries are not OCD as opposed to OCD.
I think you're going to follow this pass, not including
the United States for obvious reasons. But I think unless
(04:53):
as a real catastrophe in Australia, this is going to
become the kind of mainstream policy of a lot of
interrist parties.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Around the world.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, how to argue with that?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Fell, Yeah, I think and I agree with that. What
was interesting about that survey result was that the majority
of eighteen year olds thought that was a good idea.
Interesting a. So even those who were very close to
being part of the band, even a majority of them
said it's a good idea to do this. And Jack Swright,
I think what's happening in Australia. It's imperfect. I see
something like four million accounts have been closed down and
(05:24):
some of the complaints are all the kids had to
stop on Whatsapple one of those one of those message
ups that's not yet been banned for them. And so
that the point is that yes, it's imperfect, and yes
to be all sorts of work arounds and people screwing
the scrum if you like, and getting online with different
personas that's on, And that goes back to parental responsibility.
Those parents should really be helping this because there's no
question that the evidence is in on this. Social media
(05:46):
is harmful to those to young people in many many,
not all, but in many, many circumstances. And I agree
with Jack. I think the Australian experience imperfect. Though it is,
I think will be copied and is being copied. You're
hearing it being talked about in the UK and elsewhere
it so I think the government will announce it and
I think it'll be very popular amongst their potential voters.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
It's one of those things where people know it's bad
for them, but they can't stop it, and they almost
want someone else to tell them that they can't.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
You know, there is there is like a.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Speech stuff there. There are some pre speech you know,
concerns and some personal liberty concerns. I'm sure if you
asked David Seymore he would take a very different position
to a lot of other people about the band. But
I mean, this is the good thing about having Australia right.
We can we can watch very closely how things go
over the next six months or so. It might be
(06:38):
you know, a little early for really detailed data as
the overall effects on kids, but we've got a perfect
test case.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Just over the day, Jack Tame Pillow Riley on the Huddle.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to
news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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