April 14, 2026 • 10 mins
Tonight on The Huddle, Tim Wilson from the Maxim Institute and Tō Waha Media's Carmen Parahi joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more!
More people are planning to boycott road user charges as the Middle East conflict continues and fuel prices go up. Do we think this will become a serious movement?
There's warning an OCR hike could come as soon as next month, with the Strait of Hormuz blockade generating concerns. How worried should we be?
After 30 years, the Crusaders will be ditching the matchday horses ahead of the big stadium move. How gutting is this? What could replace the horses?
Trump's feud with Pope Leo continues - whose side are we on?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty, a name
you can trust locally and globally.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Haddle with us this evening. Tim Wilson of the Maximum
Institute and Carmen Parahi of to Waho Media Director There, Hello,
are you too?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Hella Kiora Cura.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Good evening, Tim.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
The RUX boycott Is it really going to happen?
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Ah? You know what I mean? Some people joined a
Facebook group and they got hot under the collar. Now
let's roll back the clock a bit to twenty nineteen.
Do you remember storm Area fifty one where there's supposed
to be all that secret stuff about about UFOs and
two million people said they do it? And you know
how many people showed up under one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I have no idea what you'll think. What the hell
are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I'm talking about stuff on the NBA actually translating into
real life. Carmen knows all about it. She probably signed up,
did you, Carmen?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
For the alien I wanted to see aliens?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Is now everyone wants to see aliens. But I think
it's a fair point that Tim is making right just
because you say you're going to do something on the
on the interwebs. Doesn't mean you're actually going.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
To do it, but it does show that people are hurting.
This is painful, it's so expensive, it's gross. How the
heck are these transport companies, the small ones, the medium ones,
How the heck are they supposed to survive to the
end of this year?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
What's the solution? Where who is providing solutions for our Truman?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Does there have to be a solution or is this
unfortunately and I hate saying this because I sound callous
and I'm not, but is this not like these things
happen in our lives and this may just be something
that we have to tough out.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Wherever there are issues, there are always solutions. This is
where people got to get innovative. They've going to come
up with things. Sometimes the most basic solution or the
thing that we could actually do could fix a problem
really easily. So often it's the simplest way of doing it.
What is it? I don't know because I'm not an expert,
but somebody out there, your listeners, perhaps they might have
(02:02):
some great ideas about how road user charges, how we
could pay for that, How could transport companies find ways
to survive, find ways to not have to pay that.
It's not even about having to pay that, because it's right,
you got to. You have to pay it. Everyone has
to pay their tax and it costs a lot of
(02:24):
money if you don't. But what is the solution. There's
got to be solutions, and this is my problem with
the government is they lack solutions here. We were over
prepared for the cyclone that some winds turned up, but
there were there were problems for some people. I don't
want to underplay what happened, but we were over prepared
for the cyclone that didn't turn up, and we were
We are so underprepared by this government for the long
(02:48):
term pain that we are currently in that people unaware.
I so worry about communities and people and small business
owners because they do not understand the implications of the
pain we are all going to suffer and the next
twelve to eighteen fairpoint, fair point by coming.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I think Tim goh, yeah, I think what's what's probably
going to happen is that it'll be passed on to consumers. Well,
it'll get more inflation, which gets us to the OCIMO.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
For those for the transporting of things. So it's all
these not on effects, right.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, yeah, I mean because I just don't know what
what like, what preparation could you possibly do? Do you
know what I mean? For Donald Trump? Lockading the straight
up hummers, But fairpoint to have raised it. Listen, tim
quickly on the well shall I say? I won't say quickly?
Actually on the Crusaders with the horses. Now, I know
Carmen is really exercised by this. What's your view? Do
you are you exercised by the loss of the horses?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I am?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I am the Crusader's horses with the coolest mascot in Rugby,
no question. The Hurricanes they had that lame pilot dude,
the chief said little Chief, which is even looks like
AI generated And the Blues have a mascot that looks
like it was from which which is tim for people
who are cheap. We can't have horses, let's have let's
(04:12):
get camels in renamed the Crusaders the Saracens. Trump would
love it. And you know, camel's Camel's camels.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Oh lordy, I've got another one, because you know it's
about solutions, guys. Yeah, And so I'm thinking, because the
problem is it's a small arena, right, and so they
don't want to pop the horses to say, health and
safety issue.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Right. So hobby horsing.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So are you talking about miniature horses?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
No, No, hobby horsing. You don't know hobby horse or
is it the wooden thing? We're talking about fairies. You
could have some fairies in there doing the Crusaders, doing
the Crusaders, mascot fairies and hobby horsing, that's what the Crusaders.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
We're going back to Tim for those blow up ones
where you can put the costume on you like you
basically walk around the stadium with the horse hanging.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Google.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
It is only seventy cents on Wish, so you know
team is too expensive. Go to Wish.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
All right, we'll take a break and we'll just get
these guys to calm down. After that, come back and
talk about Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the only
truly global brand.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Right, you're back with the huddle, Tim Wilson and Carmen
part of heat him as a Catholic? How offended are
you by the depiction of Jesus.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Well, it's I mean, it's just that I don't worry whither.
It's only the first commandment. It can't be that important.
Actually it is. I'm not offended, actually a pitty Trump
because his emotional incontinence is just so evident. And we
say to our kids all the time, you know there
is such a thing as bad attention. But he doesn't
(05:49):
seem to know that it would be able to tell
the difference between good attention and bad attention. He just
wants the attention going up against the pope. Run the numbers,
bro the paper seeds been around for two thousand years.
You've been here about five minutes. I don't think you're
going to work.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
It's not credible as it come. And that he that
he says that he didn't realize he was Jesus in
the picture and thought he was a red Crosswork's.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
He knew what he was doing. They knew what that
image was all about. And it's totally Jesus doing.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
To think.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
What I do love is that is there is a
calling out that the guy that he is healing is
a young Epstein.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, did you look at the picture and think it
looked like Epstein?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I did, just because I looked a him and thought
who does he look like? And then I saw that
there was commentary around him being Epstein. I wandered to
say that four in the background as well, because up
in the sky I thought that four or odin.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I didn't really get past Jesus to be honest on
the calling out of the Pope, though, tim to be fair,
the Pope is asking for it, and he is not
a political right like there is benefits to him in
taking on Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Look, you know what's happening here actually, and there was
there was an Italian thinker called Augusto Doolacco back in
the sixties. He said that when the transcendent came at
or like a sort of sense of spiritual values evacuated
the public square, it will be filled up with politics.
And I think he was actually quite prophetic. That's what's
(07:19):
happening is that politics are kind of is becoming a
junk spirituality. I think the Pope's actually been fairly measured,
to be honest, but this this sense that oh, you know, well,
this is what Pope's done depicting himself as Jesus, I'm
the Savior.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, okay, So I think this is an important point
here comen in that the Pope everybody will you know,
if you look at it just on first blush, you think, O,
the Pope's a good guy and Donald Trump's a bad
guy here, but the Pope actually has got There is
some branding upside to taking on Donald Trump, because if
you place yourself in contrast to Donald Trump, you look good.
(07:54):
You get the numbers coming back into the church potentially.
And also the Pope's argument has thus far, I mean
we've talked about it on the show in the last
week and a half or so, it's been has been
quite weak, and he's baited Donald Trump to this position.
So is it actually possible that the Pope wanted to
get to this point where they're having a spat publicly?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeap, And could of because there are two things. One,
he's talking directly to his follow us, yep, and that's
really important that they stand up for what they believe in. Two,
this is where I thought it was interesting because Trump
does actually have a strong Christian base, and so for
(08:34):
him to put himself as Jesus, I thought that wasn't
very clever because he's going to piss off his own base.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, it's a big call. Do you think on the boycott, Tim,
do you think this is the chance of working the blockade?
Speaker 4 (08:48):
On the blockade? You know? What's Yeah? What I just
wonder about America's naval capacity to actually exercise it properly.
And my understanding about the American Navy is they're actually
don't have sufficient capacity to do it in the way
that they hoped to. So let's see, I'm not convinced
(09:08):
it's going to play out. Yep.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, So basically too big a c for a few
ships to patrol. What do you reckon coming?
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I did with your size?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah. The cease fire, whether they were positioning themselves to
get to the strait themselves? So, oh so the cease fire.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Because there was an argument when the ceasefire was called.
There was a question as to whether Donald Trump was
doing this in good faith or just taking a moment
to reload. And are you of the view that it
was just a technical pause to reload? I did so
he could buy the time to get himself to the
straight in order to enforce a blockade.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
And to yeah, for the blockade, for everything else that
they want to do.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Having having said that, though, the number of months that
who'd you have on talking about the blockade. Just after
five he.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Was Kelly Ecock, west Pac.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
That's right, That's right, Kelly Ecock, the Westpac guy. Like okay,
So it's like our blockade, you know, five months that
is going to get him really close to the November
midterms and there's no way and you think about where
the price of petrol will be then price a guest
Scasolene will be then and also the effect like Kelly
was talking about a global recession. Boys, that's going to
(10:15):
play well in the you know, in the in the
voting booths of Middle America. No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, he needs to get I mean he's under some
significant time pressure as well as a question of who
can last at the longest. Guys, good to talk to you.
Thank you as always. Tim Wilson, Maximum Institute, come and
part of Hee Towaha Media director. Right now, it's nine
away from six.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
The huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty, a name
you can trust locally and globally.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Haddle with us this evening. Tim Wilson of the Maximum
Institute and Carmen Parahi of to Waho Media Director There, Hello,
are you too?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Hella Kiora Cura.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Good evening, Tim.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
The RUX boycott Is it really going to happen?
Speaker 4 (00:19):
Ah? You know what I mean? Some people joined a
Facebook group and they got hot under the collar. Now
let's roll back the clock a bit to twenty nineteen.
Do you remember storm Area fifty one where there's supposed
to be all that secret stuff about about UFOs and
two million people said they do it? And you know
how many people showed up under one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I have no idea what you'll think. What the hell
are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I'm talking about stuff on the NBA actually translating into
real life. Carmen knows all about it. She probably signed up,
did you, Carmen?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
For the alien I wanted to see aliens?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Is now everyone wants to see aliens. But I think
it's a fair point that Tim is making right just
because you say you're going to do something on the
on the interwebs. Doesn't mean you're actually going.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
To do it, but it does show that people are hurting.
This is painful, it's so expensive, it's gross. How the
heck are these transport companies, the small ones, the medium ones,
How the heck are they supposed to survive to the
end of this year?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
What's the solution? Where who is providing solutions for our Truman?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Does there have to be a solution or is this
unfortunately and I hate saying this because I sound callous
and I'm not, but is this not like these things
happen in our lives and this may just be something
that we have to tough out.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Wherever there are issues, there are always solutions. This is
where people got to get innovative. They've going to come
up with things. Sometimes the most basic solution or the
thing that we could actually do could fix a problem
really easily. So often it's the simplest way of doing it.
What is it? I don't know because I'm not an expert,
but somebody out there, your listeners, perhaps they might have
(02:02):
some great ideas about how road user charges, how we
could pay for that, How could transport companies find ways
to survive, find ways to not have to pay that.
It's not even about having to pay that, because it's right,
you got to. You have to pay it. Everyone has
to pay their tax and it costs a lot of
(02:24):
money if you don't. But what is the solution. There's
got to be solutions, and this is my problem with
the government is they lack solutions here. We were over
prepared for the cyclone that some winds turned up, but
there were there were problems for some people. I don't
want to underplay what happened, but we were over prepared
for the cyclone that didn't turn up, and we were
We are so underprepared by this government for the long
(02:48):
term pain that we are currently in that people unaware.
I so worry about communities and people and small business
owners because they do not understand the implications of the
pain we are all going to suffer and the next
twelve to eighteen fairpoint, fair point by coming.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I think Tim goh, yeah, I think what's what's probably
going to happen is that it'll be passed on to consumers. Well,
it'll get more inflation, which gets us to the OCIMO.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
For those for the transporting of things. So it's all
these not on effects, right.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, yeah, I mean because I just don't know what
what like, what preparation could you possibly do? Do you
know what I mean? For Donald Trump? Lockading the straight
up hummers, But fairpoint to have raised it. Listen, tim
quickly on the well shall I say? I won't say quickly?
Actually on the Crusaders with the horses. Now, I know
Carmen is really exercised by this. What's your view? Do
you are you exercised by the loss of the horses?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I am?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I am the Crusader's horses with the coolest mascot in Rugby,
no question. The Hurricanes they had that lame pilot dude,
the chief said little Chief, which is even looks like
AI generated And the Blues have a mascot that looks
like it was from which which is tim for people
who are cheap. We can't have horses, let's have let's
(04:12):
get camels in renamed the Crusaders the Saracens. Trump would
love it. And you know, camel's Camel's camels.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Oh lordy, I've got another one, because you know it's
about solutions, guys. Yeah, And so I'm thinking, because the
problem is it's a small arena, right, and so they
don't want to pop the horses to say, health and
safety issue.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Right. So hobby horsing.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So are you talking about miniature horses?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
No, No, hobby horsing. You don't know hobby horse or
is it the wooden thing? We're talking about fairies. You
could have some fairies in there doing the Crusaders, doing
the Crusaders, mascot fairies and hobby horsing, that's what the Crusaders.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
We're going back to Tim for those blow up ones
where you can put the costume on you like you
basically walk around the stadium with the horse hanging.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Google.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
It is only seventy cents on Wish, so you know
team is too expensive. Go to Wish.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
All right, we'll take a break and we'll just get
these guys to calm down. After that, come back and
talk about Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the only
truly global brand.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Right, you're back with the huddle, Tim Wilson and Carmen
part of heat him as a Catholic? How offended are
you by the depiction of Jesus.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Well, it's I mean, it's just that I don't worry whither.
It's only the first commandment. It can't be that important.
Actually it is. I'm not offended, actually a pitty Trump
because his emotional incontinence is just so evident. And we
say to our kids all the time, you know there
is such a thing as bad attention. But he doesn't
(05:49):
seem to know that it would be able to tell
the difference between good attention and bad attention. He just
wants the attention going up against the pope. Run the numbers,
bro the paper seeds been around for two thousand years.
You've been here about five minutes. I don't think you're
going to work.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
It's not credible as it come. And that he that
he says that he didn't realize he was Jesus in
the picture and thought he was a red Crosswork's.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
He knew what he was doing. They knew what that
image was all about. And it's totally Jesus doing.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
To think.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
What I do love is that is there is a
calling out that the guy that he is healing is
a young Epstein.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, did you look at the picture and think it
looked like Epstein?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I did, just because I looked a him and thought
who does he look like? And then I saw that
there was commentary around him being Epstein. I wandered to
say that four in the background as well, because up
in the sky I thought that four or odin.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I didn't really get past Jesus to be honest on
the calling out of the Pope, though, tim to be fair,
the Pope is asking for it, and he is not
a political right like there is benefits to him in
taking on Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Look, you know what's happening here actually, and there was
there was an Italian thinker called Augusto Doolacco back in
the sixties. He said that when the transcendent came at
or like a sort of sense of spiritual values evacuated
the public square, it will be filled up with politics.
And I think he was actually quite prophetic. That's what's
(07:19):
happening is that politics are kind of is becoming a
junk spirituality. I think the Pope's actually been fairly measured,
to be honest, but this this sense that oh, you know, well,
this is what Pope's done depicting himself as Jesus, I'm
the Savior.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, okay, So I think this is an important point
here comen in that the Pope everybody will you know,
if you look at it just on first blush, you think, O,
the Pope's a good guy and Donald Trump's a bad
guy here, but the Pope actually has got There is
some branding upside to taking on Donald Trump, because if
you place yourself in contrast to Donald Trump, you look good.
(07:54):
You get the numbers coming back into the church potentially.
And also the Pope's argument has thus far, I mean
we've talked about it on the show in the last
week and a half or so, it's been has been
quite weak, and he's baited Donald Trump to this position.
So is it actually possible that the Pope wanted to
get to this point where they're having a spat publicly?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeap, And could of because there are two things. One,
he's talking directly to his follow us, yep, and that's
really important that they stand up for what they believe in. Two,
this is where I thought it was interesting because Trump
does actually have a strong Christian base, and so for
(08:34):
him to put himself as Jesus, I thought that wasn't
very clever because he's going to piss off his own base.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, it's a big call. Do you think on the boycott, Tim,
do you think this is the chance of working the blockade?
Speaker 4 (08:48):
On the blockade? You know? What's Yeah? What I just
wonder about America's naval capacity to actually exercise it properly.
And my understanding about the American Navy is they're actually
don't have sufficient capacity to do it in the way
that they hoped to. So let's see, I'm not convinced
(09:08):
it's going to play out. Yep.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, So basically too big a c for a few
ships to patrol. What do you reckon coming?
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I did with your size?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah. The cease fire, whether they were positioning themselves to
get to the strait themselves? So, oh so the cease fire.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Because there was an argument when the ceasefire was called.
There was a question as to whether Donald Trump was
doing this in good faith or just taking a moment
to reload. And are you of the view that it
was just a technical pause to reload? I did so
he could buy the time to get himself to the
straight in order to enforce a blockade.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
And to yeah, for the blockade, for everything else that
they want to do.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Having having said that, though, the number of months that
who'd you have on talking about the blockade. Just after
five he.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Was Kelly Ecock, west Pac.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
That's right, That's right, Kelly Ecock, the Westpac guy. Like okay,
So it's like our blockade, you know, five months that
is going to get him really close to the November
midterms and there's no way and you think about where
the price of petrol will be then price a guest
Scasolene will be then and also the effect like Kelly
was talking about a global recession. Boys, that's going to
(10:15):
play well in the you know, in the in the
voting booths of Middle America. No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, he needs to get I mean he's under some
significant time pressure as well as a question of who
can last at the longest. Guys, good to talk to you.
Thank you as always. Tim Wilson, Maximum Institute, come and
part of Hee Towaha Media director. Right now, it's nine
away from six.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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