August 12, 2024 • 9 mins
Tonight on The Huddle - Child Fund CEO Josie Pagani and Trish Sherson from Sherson Willis PR joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more!
The Olympics are over and done with - what did we think? What were our favourite moments?
The Police Association and Associate Justice Minister Nicole McKee have been butting heads over new firearms laws - what do we make of this?
Do we know what 3/4 is as a decimal? New data shows only 39 percent of Year 8 students can answer that correctly. How concerning is this?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
On the huddle of this this evening, We've got Joseph
BEGANI child fun CEO and trisherson of Sherson Willis Hello
you guys, color Hello, Josie. Is your favorite Olympic moment
anything other than Hamish Kerr winning the goal?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Oh? That has to be the highlight, partly because it's
a real Olympic sports. I mean I'm not saying that,
you know, kayaking isn't, but like the hyjim, I mean
that's something that the Olympians did at Anching Grease. It's amazing, yeah,
and what a buzz. And Lisa Carrington, I mean she's
the goat in the boat, isn't she. I mean she's
just amazing and she's done it again. I think the
(00:39):
thing about this Olympics for me though, was that the
weird events kind of eclipsed the classic events like the
blomen bouldering and the fantastic break dancing, which was them
in the Australian Breakdancer. That was my sort of weird highlight.
I mean, she's like my kid coming up to me
and going mom, mom, look at this and then they
do a really rubbish rolypoly in Wow, it's amazing, Jo.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Did you hear that? The reason that she got into
the Olympics was she set up the breakdowns and federation herself,
so she basically guaranteed herself a spot. She put herself there.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Brilliant. I mean, so, I think the weird stuff although
the one the moment I loved the most, apart from
the guy knocking the pole off by it with as
Willy in the in the pole vaulting, But my favorite
moment was the Turkish gun shooter. Yes, everyone turns up
with all the gear, all the goggles and the safety
(01:32):
equipment and the ear things, and he just comes to
the T shirt a couple of tracky bums of his
hand in his pocket, puts his gun out and wins silver.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I mean, what a dude love that?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
What about you, Trish?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
What's your highlight? Well?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
One that hasn't met mentioned that requires and mentioned the
Italian Men film team. I mean, how good the.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Babes were the abs.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
From a purely esthetic what and this is a minor
humble brag. I was actually the third form high jump
champion in nineteen eighty six actome at a new high school.
So I, along with Barry, I'm all over the Fosbury flop.
But in my day we actually had mats and pads,
(02:16):
not like sand that Barry had, which.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Is why you're a world to Sharper.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I just think, Trish, you could have been somebody Trish
instead of a nobody, which is what you are.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
You could have been an OLYMPI I could have been.
I mean, I thought that the Hamish curse thing was
amazing because it was a bolt from the blue. And
who even which one of us going into this was
even thinking about New Zealand in the high jump letlono
at gold medal. And we've had a bit of success
over the years, you know, actually in the stadium with runners,
(02:49):
particularly in Dame Valerie on shotput, but this was this
was absolutely fantastic. A couple of recommendations though, if you're
interested in the break dancing at the Olympics and everyone's saying, well,
how could that be an Olympic sport? There's two fantastic
podcasts that came out over the weekend. Won the Global
Story on BBC and won The Daily on The New
(03:10):
York Times, which actually looked back at the history of
this and how it became an Olympic sport, and the
short story is because it is a massive crowd draw.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
All right, Yeah, well, I think old mate ray Gun
has probably repelled a lot of people saying landedly, Josie,
what do you make of Sebastian Co, who's got to
be a forerunner to take over the presidency of the IOC,
saying that he will have rules so this Algerian boxer
situation doesn't repeat.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
What do you make of that?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah, interesting that he's put his name forward now, because
the protocol is usually to wait. You meant to sort
of wait until I think three months before the election
and then sort of, you know, humbly say well, of course,
if people want me to serve, they will. And he's
gone out, just a typical Sebastian Co gone out and
gone yeah I want it and this is what I'll do.
So good on him. I don't envy him. I don't
(03:59):
envy sports administrators at all. This is really tough. I mean, yes,
you know, you've got to look at the fact that
it's mostly people who may have been assigned female at
the male at birth, who identifies female, who wants who
want to compete in female sports. It's never the other
way around, right, So there is just a physical problem
(04:20):
here that you've got to make sure you get it right.
And there are there are there are things on the
fringes when it comes to biology and interseex that we've
just seen with a Solgerian woman that it's really really
hard to work out what you do. So I don't
envy them because there's some complicated cases.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
No, I totally agree, Trisha. I want your take on
or we'll get it after the breakache back on the
Hudle got Trishus and Joe Spagani. Trisha, what do you
make of seb Co coming out and saying that.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I think that he needed to take the stance. I mean,
I don't know if you guys saw this, but there
was an absolute mess of a press conference about a
week ago where the International Boxing is so who had
tried to basically rip the IOC around this issue. It
was an absolute channels and they really made a disgrace
(05:09):
of themselves. So I think that the suture president of
the IOC is now trying to take back the lead
and trying to get into control of them this. But
as Josie said, you know, good luck to them, because man,
it is a minefield.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, totally. Hey, Josey, can you explain to me why
the Police Association is fighting so hard with Nicole McKee
at the moment.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah, I mean that they're a lobby group there a union.
Any lobby group or any union has a right to
call for a minister to resign. I remember once calling
for Jerry Brownley to resign, can't remember why, and we
ended up getting drunk together in the Corow Club. So
it's kind of like, you know, that's what you do.
So partly they're playing politics, yes, and they've got a
right to do that. I mean, I do think I
(05:52):
listened to your interview with the minister and honestly, if
you were cynical about consultation before, you certainly would be.
After that interview. There was scoping consultation which the Police
Association aren't invited to. There was initial consultation, targeted consultation,
whole levels of gobbledygooky consultation that the Police Association i e.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
The cops that.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Actually stand out in the streets and have to deal
with the criminals and deal with the potential of gun
violence you know, why wouldn't you have included them? I
mean it makes me just drop the ball.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
It feels like screwing the scrum ahead of the thing. Right,
So everything is stitched up and you can consult after
that or you want you're not going to get through
everybody's agreed, yes.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, and they can do it at Select Committee.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Well so can I.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
But I don't think my view is as important as
a cop trice.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Would you agree with that?
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Well? I actually thought Carl Hills picked a pretty tough
opponent here. You know, if you listen to Nicole McKee,
she was pretty strong and pretty clear and it's probably
one of the better ministerial interviews I've heard recently. I
think she's going to be a tough competitor and I'm
not sure that Carle's taken the right approach here or
(07:06):
it's going to, you know, ultimately get him where he
wants to be. And don't forget the history on this
with Act. This was an issue around the time that
though the gun the law changes were being made after
the Mosk attacks, Seymour really swam against the tide in
Parliament and took a really sort of principled Act type
(07:26):
approach to the gun changes, pointing out a number of deficiencies,
So it's no surprise that mckey's taking the line.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Now, yeah, yeah, Okay. Now do you think Josie am
I being unfair? Or would you expect a twelve year
old to be able to convert three quarters into decimal
and get the answer zero point seventy five.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I can't even do my times table. I had such
bad education, so you know, have a I couldn't do that. Yes, absolutely,
we should expect them to. And it's one of the
problems that we've got and that we have in terrible
mass results in this country. And if you want to fix,
if you want to fix polarization as society, get education together,
(08:06):
get better on education too.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Right, what do you think, Trisha? I mean, is that
a reasonable thing to expect a twelve or thirteen.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Year old to do?
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I was? I mean, isn't fractions to decimals one of
those sort of based foundational year things that you learned
pretty early on, especially three quarters? Even I could do that.
I had laughter in recent weeks of discussion about you know,
kids needing to learn their timetables. The reason I learned
mine because Fred's parents had them stuck on the back
(08:37):
of the toilet door twelve twelve times time Trish.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Go go go no no no no, no, no, no no,
give me another one.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
I well, I haven't got it on me now, six
times seven forty two.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I'll get a dopamine hit from this. I think I'm
I think there's something wrong with me. Guys, listen, thank
you
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Very much for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive listen
live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty exceptional marketing
for every property.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
On the huddle of this this evening, We've got Joseph
BEGANI child fun CEO and trisherson of Sherson Willis Hello
you guys, color Hello, Josie. Is your favorite Olympic moment
anything other than Hamish Kerr winning the goal?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Oh? That has to be the highlight, partly because it's
a real Olympic sports. I mean I'm not saying that,
you know, kayaking isn't, but like the hyjim, I mean
that's something that the Olympians did at Anching Grease. It's amazing, yeah,
and what a buzz. And Lisa Carrington, I mean she's
the goat in the boat, isn't she. I mean she's
just amazing and she's done it again. I think the
(00:39):
thing about this Olympics for me though, was that the
weird events kind of eclipsed the classic events like the
blomen bouldering and the fantastic break dancing, which was them
in the Australian Breakdancer. That was my sort of weird highlight.
I mean, she's like my kid coming up to me
and going mom, mom, look at this and then they
do a really rubbish rolypoly in Wow, it's amazing, Jo.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Did you hear that? The reason that she got into
the Olympics was she set up the breakdowns and federation herself,
so she basically guaranteed herself a spot. She put herself there.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Brilliant. I mean, so, I think the weird stuff although
the one the moment I loved the most, apart from
the guy knocking the pole off by it with as
Willy in the in the pole vaulting, But my favorite
moment was the Turkish gun shooter. Yes, everyone turns up
with all the gear, all the goggles and the safety
(01:32):
equipment and the ear things, and he just comes to
the T shirt a couple of tracky bums of his
hand in his pocket, puts his gun out and wins silver.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I mean, what a dude love that?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
What about you, Trish?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
What's your highlight? Well?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
One that hasn't met mentioned that requires and mentioned the
Italian Men film team. I mean, how good the.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Babes were the abs.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
From a purely esthetic what and this is a minor
humble brag. I was actually the third form high jump
champion in nineteen eighty six actome at a new high school.
So I, along with Barry, I'm all over the Fosbury flop.
But in my day we actually had mats and pads,
(02:16):
not like sand that Barry had, which.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Is why you're a world to Sharper.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I just think, Trish, you could have been somebody Trish
instead of a nobody, which is what you are.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
You could have been an OLYMPI I could have been.
I mean, I thought that the Hamish curse thing was
amazing because it was a bolt from the blue. And
who even which one of us going into this was
even thinking about New Zealand in the high jump letlono
at gold medal. And we've had a bit of success
over the years, you know, actually in the stadium with runners,
(02:49):
particularly in Dame Valerie on shotput, but this was this
was absolutely fantastic. A couple of recommendations though, if you're
interested in the break dancing at the Olympics and everyone's saying, well,
how could that be an Olympic sport? There's two fantastic
podcasts that came out over the weekend. Won the Global
Story on BBC and won The Daily on The New
(03:10):
York Times, which actually looked back at the history of
this and how it became an Olympic sport, and the
short story is because it is a massive crowd draw.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
All right, Yeah, well, I think old mate ray Gun
has probably repelled a lot of people saying landedly, Josie,
what do you make of Sebastian Co, who's got to
be a forerunner to take over the presidency of the IOC,
saying that he will have rules so this Algerian boxer
situation doesn't repeat.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
What do you make of that?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah, interesting that he's put his name forward now, because
the protocol is usually to wait. You meant to sort
of wait until I think three months before the election
and then sort of, you know, humbly say well, of course,
if people want me to serve, they will. And he's
gone out, just a typical Sebastian Co gone out and
gone yeah I want it and this is what I'll do.
So good on him. I don't envy him. I don't
(03:59):
envy sports administrators at all. This is really tough. I mean, yes,
you know, you've got to look at the fact that
it's mostly people who may have been assigned female at
the male at birth, who identifies female, who wants who
want to compete in female sports. It's never the other
way around, right, So there is just a physical problem
(04:20):
here that you've got to make sure you get it right.
And there are there are there are things on the
fringes when it comes to biology and interseex that we've
just seen with a Solgerian woman that it's really really
hard to work out what you do. So I don't
envy them because there's some complicated cases.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
No, I totally agree, Trisha. I want your take on
or we'll get it after the breakache back on the
Hudle got Trishus and Joe Spagani. Trisha, what do you
make of seb Co coming out and saying that.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I think that he needed to take the stance. I mean,
I don't know if you guys saw this, but there
was an absolute mess of a press conference about a
week ago where the International Boxing is so who had
tried to basically rip the IOC around this issue. It
was an absolute channels and they really made a disgrace
(05:09):
of themselves. So I think that the suture president of
the IOC is now trying to take back the lead
and trying to get into control of them this. But
as Josie said, you know, good luck to them, because man,
it is a minefield.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, totally. Hey, Josey, can you explain to me why
the Police Association is fighting so hard with Nicole McKee
at the moment.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah, I mean that they're a lobby group there a union.
Any lobby group or any union has a right to
call for a minister to resign. I remember once calling
for Jerry Brownley to resign, can't remember why, and we
ended up getting drunk together in the Corow Club. So
it's kind of like, you know, that's what you do.
So partly they're playing politics, yes, and they've got a
right to do that. I mean, I do think I
(05:52):
listened to your interview with the minister and honestly, if
you were cynical about consultation before, you certainly would be.
After that interview. There was scoping consultation which the Police
Association aren't invited to. There was initial consultation, targeted consultation,
whole levels of gobbledygooky consultation that the Police Association i e.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
The cops that.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Actually stand out in the streets and have to deal
with the criminals and deal with the potential of gun
violence you know, why wouldn't you have included them? I
mean it makes me just drop the ball.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
It feels like screwing the scrum ahead of the thing. Right,
So everything is stitched up and you can consult after
that or you want you're not going to get through
everybody's agreed, yes.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, and they can do it at Select Committee.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Well so can I.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
But I don't think my view is as important as
a cop trice.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Would you agree with that?
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Well? I actually thought Carl Hills picked a pretty tough
opponent here. You know, if you listen to Nicole McKee,
she was pretty strong and pretty clear and it's probably
one of the better ministerial interviews I've heard recently. I
think she's going to be a tough competitor and I'm
not sure that Carle's taken the right approach here or
(07:06):
it's going to, you know, ultimately get him where he
wants to be. And don't forget the history on this
with Act. This was an issue around the time that
though the gun the law changes were being made after
the Mosk attacks, Seymour really swam against the tide in
Parliament and took a really sort of principled Act type
(07:26):
approach to the gun changes, pointing out a number of deficiencies,
So it's no surprise that mckey's taking the line.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Now, yeah, yeah, Okay. Now do you think Josie am
I being unfair? Or would you expect a twelve year
old to be able to convert three quarters into decimal
and get the answer zero point seventy five.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I can't even do my times table. I had such
bad education, so you know, have a I couldn't do that. Yes, absolutely,
we should expect them to. And it's one of the
problems that we've got and that we have in terrible
mass results in this country. And if you want to fix,
if you want to fix polarization as society, get education together,
(08:06):
get better on education too.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Right, what do you think, Trisha? I mean, is that
a reasonable thing to expect a twelve or thirteen.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Year old to do?
Speaker 4 (08:13):
I was? I mean, isn't fractions to decimals one of
those sort of based foundational year things that you learned
pretty early on, especially three quarters? Even I could do that.
I had laughter in recent weeks of discussion about you know,
kids needing to learn their timetables. The reason I learned
mine because Fred's parents had them stuck on the back
(08:37):
of the toilet door twelve twelve times time Trish.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Go go go no no no no, no, no, no no,
give me another one.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
I well, I haven't got it on me now, six
times seven forty two.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I'll get a dopamine hit from this. I think I'm
I think there's something wrong with me. Guys, listen, thank
you
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Very much for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive listen
live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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