It's just an idea (23 April 2026)

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media anyway. So here we are on a Thursday night, Eh,
now what should we talk about? David Seymour has floated
the idea that every child in year eleven. Now I
don't know about you, but I don't do year elevens.

(01:40):
I had no idea where my kid there at school,
what they're up to. I say, if you tell me
where you are, you tell me a standards or forms.
But I think year eleven is probably Form four or
Form seven or somewhere around there, or Form five. I
think if I think with year elevens, you add five
to it, so a year eleven you'd be sixteen, they'd
be Form seven six five. How smart you are? Anyway?

(02:04):
David Seymour says that that every student in year eleven
should be given five hundred dollars to learn to invest
ah and they could pocket the earnings see on fifth form.
He wants to give them five hundred dollars in a
controlled investment account with a structured pathway into real investing.

(02:27):
I think sharesies could be on board with this, and
term one they choose a term deposit, and term two
I think they let rip on the shear market or
on a managed fund, and term three they cut loose
with these inequities, and in term four they're able to
invest in assets from around the world. That way they

(02:50):
become aware of exchange rates. We had some nerds at
school that were playing the shear market. Well. They ended
up running sort of top companies, But there we go.
That's something that they did and feel very precocious at
the time. He's addicted. Any returns could be placed in
a student's Kiwi saver, or a credit to a student line,

(03:12):
or given to them in cash cost thirty million bucks.
I'm sure they get private sponsorship, couldn't they. Seema acknowledged
some may be surprised to see ACT supporting a policy
giving teenagers money, but he argued the benefits could be realized.
I guess it's a fairly salient lesson. Yeah excuse me. Yeah,

(03:57):
I've laughed to storically then choked on my coffee. But
you can imagine how could happen, couldn't. Yeah, you've become famous,
should become a legiend for the guy in that lost
all this Oh you remember Blue, you lost all his
money in the investment scheme. That's what will happen. You
won't be known on your school thee results to be
done on your investment results, probably following around for the

(04:20):
rest of your life how badly you did. Anyway, if
you think it's a good idea of a bad idea,
let me know about that. This is Seymour's investment idea,
giving eleven year form five students five dollars each to
learn to invest. First term would be a term deposit,

(04:45):
Second term managed funds, third term shares, fourth ms. Knock
your first m fourth term, knock yourself out investing whatever
you like. Is that a good idea? I got no idea.
I guess yeah. Term six, Term five quite rightly should
be a TA B account. They'd get Winston's support, wouldn't

(05:08):
it be fantastic maked on the horses, TAM six the pokies. Anyway,
people say that's a great idea, do come through if
you want to comment on that. Oh, new to harwere
friend lost the veggie garden? Last night forecasts plus three

(05:30):
was minus three, clear skys and southerly airstream never lies exactly.
Good evening, James, it's Marcus. Welcome. Are good idea?

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Best I think I've heard from anyone in a long time.
My wife and I quite often talk about what we
learned at school and what we use in our day
to day life, and we quite often say that the
biggest gap is things like investment and obviously mortgaging and
your homelands and so forth. And I think it's fantastically

(06:05):
I hadn't heard it until just you mentioned it.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
It's hot off the press, fantastic.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
One of the best things I've heard of politicians say.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
In a long time.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yes, well, I am coming to terms of it because
it does sound slightly sensible, and I'm not someone that's
sort of skews towards act. I'm sure there will be
unintended consequences. I guess probably the purpose of school is
not exactly to teach investment. But anyway, well, some I
think if we can.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Teach young kids more things that aren't necessarily in the
exact curriculum now that will benefit them in the future.
I mean, we're giving them key we Saver as soon
as they start earning. Why not use that money.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Like an advance for KEI we Saver.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Well, yeah, I mean, you get your two hundred and
fifty six dollars or whatever it is as soon as
you do contribution as soon as you contribute, and some
of those, some of those fifth formers probably job. I
had a job at the form and so some of
them probably have it. Anyway, why not changed to contribution
and not give it to fifteen sixteen seventeen year olds

(07:17):
who are working. Fund it that way, give it all
to them when they're in for form.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Maybe do it that way.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
It doesn't have to be five hundred It could be
slightly less.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Was your job with you're fifteen? James?

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Worked at a petrol station?

Speaker 6 (07:31):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (07:32):
And that's when you actually had to go out and
pump gas four people when there was actually a service station,
not a petrol station.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
You got quite strong opinions about things a James, I
can imagine that was a founding thing for you. That
was a significant event for you working there.

Speaker 7 (07:48):
Oh, it was great.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
These the Rallies were fantastic owners and operators who sorry,
that is the Rallies. They were the people. They owned
about five or six petrol station service stations around Wellington
at the time, so I worked at a number of them.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Oil and water fine? Sorry is your oil and water fine?
You want me to check those for you?

Speaker 8 (08:11):
No?

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Was it the days when you would check the oil.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
And water, absolutely yeah, and learn how to do LPG
gas and all those things.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Was it Biggie on the which was the famous guest station?
When it was it Biggie on the Key?

Speaker 9 (08:27):
Is that the one?

Speaker 4 (08:28):
No, they were caltexes. So the one by the airport
was a Caltex and the one by the base in reserve,
those were the main two.

Speaker 10 (08:37):
I worked at as a ralliesies.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
The son was a fantastic goalkeeper, a footballer.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Are they Greek?

Speaker 11 (08:47):
No?

Speaker 4 (08:47):
They were I want to say Hungarian or.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
It's a good all. This is good story, James. And
there's just you see where discussions about investment can go.
They can go in all sorts of directions. Caren't they?

Speaker 9 (08:59):
Who would have for.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
When you mentioned something hot off the press about David Seymour,
we'd be talking about service stations.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Thank you. I've heard about the family owning five gas
stations in Wellington. The is arellis what a tremendous sounding name.
As soon as I said Greek, I felt bad for
saying that because only only know there are Greek people
in Wellington, or and Italians of course too, but it
did sound clumsy. Thank you for that, James, Matt, it's Marcus.

Speaker 11 (09:28):
Good evening evening, Marcus. I don't reckon. It's a good
idea to a couple of ends, like to have a
school investing club or syllabus.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Sorry, it was a part of the sullibus.

Speaker 11 (09:43):
Definitely have broader financial skills, perhaps bolted onto mass the
mass of us or business later and senior school. Yeah,
but you could have. The reason is shares, managed funds,
their growth assets. They have a sort of minimum time

(10:04):
frame five to ten years. The power looks so yeah,
you know it's going to just cause trouble, take it
off and be count for two or three years.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
So it's not so yours that what you're saying is
very smart because what you're saying is the term of
just three months for each particular. What's the product is
it's more it's more harm than use because you've got it.
It's the long game.

Speaker 11 (10:26):
Yeah, well, yeah, that's right. All investments that income, investment,
income assets or process it's income just be interest in
their short term capital stable but growth as properly shares
and alternatives like crypto hedgehunds all that, sanchoz stamps coins that.
But yeah, so they're going to learn the wrong thing,

(10:50):
or be extremely disappointed within within a year.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Put them might it might have the effect of put
them off because I lose all their money on san
Chus or crypto, put them off investing forever. I think
we're as well spend it when we've got it.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 11 (11:05):
Like there's other like the some like budgeting, banking, bank accounts,
fat expenses, you know, expenses, things like that. Now, even
basic things that have intellectual property. He shouldn't give us way.
There's a thing called the role of seventy two your investments. Yeah,
if your investments earning ten percent, it's going to double

(11:25):
divide it into seventy two. And that's the time your
investment will double. And if you leave it alone. So
things like that, real simple stuff. Yeah, that's my thoughts
on that.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
I think they're very good thoughts, Matt, And I think
you might have swung me on that one.

Speaker 12 (11:40):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
It's all got nineteen past eight evening, Sam, It's Marcus, Welcome.

Speaker 13 (11:47):
Hi there.

Speaker 14 (11:49):
I'm a supporter of David. You might not like it,
but I voted for a number of year now, but
I couldn't quite understand the policy or you were and
you were mentioning about the five hundred dollars, but what
was the actual details around it.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
You'd give every fifth you'd give every fifth form or
a year eleven person five hundred dollars. Yeah, the fourth
term year in the first term that would be in
a term deposit, and the second term it would be
and managed funds, and the third term it would be
in equities. And the fourth term your first term, fourth term.

(12:32):
You can do with it what you like.

Speaker 14 (12:35):
Well, okay, what one, where's the money going to come from?
Obviously taxplayer three.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Hundred thousand dollars from the government, from the government.

Speaker 14 (12:45):
Did you say three hundred thousands?

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Let me just relook at the figures. I've got the
article here in front of me.

Speaker 14 (12:53):
On a selected a few obviously thirty.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Million dollars it'll cost. It could be funded from the
six hundred million key we save an annual subsidy.

Speaker 14 (13:04):
Mm yeah, yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure it's
a good idea. I think I think what it's further
doing is entrenching this the sense of entitlement that we've
got coming through society now as well, where everyone can
get without having to earn.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
I guess I guess. I guess it's thinking probably was
if you're going to have to invest money to work
out how it works, you need money to start with.
I suppose it's his thoughts.

Speaker 14 (13:37):
Yeah, okay, Well I'm a supporter of David. So here's
a scenario where if you're going to do that, why
not why not teach those kids to earn it first,
or have them earn it before they can invest it.
Why give it to them? Why not have to earn
it first? So, whether it be for whatever he has
to do around whatever school it is, or extra extracurricular

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activities after school, going working at a business a week
or a month, whatever it may be, then to earn
it then to than to receive it rather than just
be gifted it.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, I imagine there's probably I imagine there's probably practical
considerations with that.

Speaker 14 (14:22):
Yeah, obviously, but we all have the same boat. Like
if you're going to give five hundred dollars to a
student who's not a taxpayer, I'm not giving that five
hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
To someone who has Yeah, that's this is not my idea.
This is he's come up with the idea. We just
it's were just about so we're asking people, So you
don't you think it would be a poor idea?

Speaker 14 (14:49):
Well, yeah, I just like, I just find like there's
a whole lot of a whole lot of ideas with
no real results, and they're coming up with new ideas,
but get back to basics and fake focus on actually
getting a result where Okay?

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Cool? Thanks Sam, twenty five past eight. True you, Dean,
this is Marcus Welcome, good.

Speaker 15 (15:12):
Evening, Good evening, Marcus number one. Just to it was
the number one show in the evening. It's always pretty good,
you say, right, that's what the little snippe just yeah, yeah,
so it's always good. Hey, David Seymour's idea. I think
in principle I really like it. However, that investment only

(15:32):
makes money because productive people are working in businesses to
make that money. And I think about when I think
about students, I think, really their goal should be to
be productive people, to be the very people that are
making that money, and the investment comes as a secondary
step on top of once you're a productive person, and

(15:54):
you know, there's lots of things that are productive that
aren't always financial. Like a school teacher, you might say,
is a really productive part of society. So kind of
whether it's business or whatever job people go into being
productive it's the number one thing, and then being able
to invest in productive endeavors would be the number two things.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
That would be my thinking on it.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
So it's putting people on the wrong course, isn't it.
It's just skick. It's making little young act voters by
the sound of things. Yeah, that not that last guy
that suck sucked the life out of the topic. But anyway, Sam,
he said it was a da He said it a
David Sewell voter. I don't know whether that means because
can you vote for him? I suppose you vote for him.

Speaker 15 (16:33):
And you could, yeah, and ebstin you could and then
vote for some a different party.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
If you wanted to.

Speaker 11 (16:38):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
You got to do that.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
You got to trick the tricky I'll go around. I
don't know if that's going to be an option this year,
but anyway, Yeah.

Speaker 15 (16:44):
But it's productive people. That that's what you know, the
idea of college and university and everything like, come out
and be a productive person, you know, contribute, be a contributor,
not just a taker, and invest in an important part
of the whole scheme of how everything works. But it's
secondary to being productive first, you know.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Thanks very much. How was bitcoy? Haven't heard anything about
bitcoin for a the hedge against chaos. I'll check that
out tonight. Get in touch if you want to talk
on air Seymour's scheme. I'm sure SEMA's probably spoke out
of turn off the cuff that's been reported and he'd
be running for the hills away from this, I would

(17:23):
think might be wrong. I'll let you know. Get in touch.
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine nine text with your
right through till twelve o'clock tonight. So it's Marcus.

Speaker 6 (17:33):
Good evening, Ah, I'm Marcus, be very interesting popper Again.
I don't agree with five hundred dollars been handed out
to school children without earning it first. That sends the
wrong message, you know, it really does. And he also

(17:57):
said today he wanted more text cuts, and I started
to think, well, where's the money and a comform? What
air sets? Does he want to flog off to get
the money in the first place? That was the first
thing I thought of.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Gosh, no one really seems to be in favor of it.

Speaker 6 (18:18):
Well, no, it's not a good idea. It's like that
Opportunity Party. They've got a similar thing where they want
every New Zealanders to get a universal basic and come
three hundred bucks. That teaches young people too. Will you

(18:39):
just stay home on the computer and get your hand out?
Every put ganned out for you three hundred dollars? You
know what about working?

Speaker 11 (18:51):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Now everyone should be given five hundred dollars to invest.

Speaker 6 (18:54):
I don't think so where's the money going to cart
I No, I'm.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Just discussing what he's talking about.

Speaker 6 (19:03):
Yeah, I think he's off the planet to be perfectly
on us.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Well, I don't imagine you'd be an act supporter, would you?

Speaker 16 (19:11):
No?

Speaker 6 (19:11):
No, no, no, because he's having regal amazings, so thrown
to Douglas the organ grinder. Of course they don't support him.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Okay, nice to talk, so thanks so much for that.
Oh eight hundred and eighty to eighty. She's implying he's
a monkey?

Speaker 17 (19:27):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (19:28):
If he's the organ grinder? I don't know if that's
where we go anyway? How are you all going? People?
What'sitting out there and listening and get in touch if
you want to? Oh eight hundred and eighty Tony nineteen
nine to de text market still twelve mm hm, and
we are talking about David Seymour and has planned to
give every school child aged year eleven, aged fifteen or

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sixteen five hundred dollars to learn about investing. Although I
think the most interesting cause of person that said, you
know your your windows too short, not your physical window,
but your window investment because you have noise in the
market and that amount of time. If it's how it's described,
get in touch if you want to talk eight hundred
and eighty Teddy nine to the text. I've enjoyed people's

(20:14):
response to it. It's got them talking. We'ybody careful because
he'll ring up, as he's prone to do. But yes,
be in touch. If you want to add something to this,
the team vest scheme, Colin.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
Yeah, go Marcus.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
Hey.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
I think people are getting us a little bit wrong
because say what I think it's true, weaben. I don't
see it as a hand out. I said it as
an opportunity for them to learn about finance, something that
a hell of a lot them a school don't get
the opportunity to do, or certainly because of their socioeconomic

(20:56):
furious as they come from, would never probably have that
sort of investment. And I think the idea of three
months that you know, the three months, three months, three months,
just exposed them to the different forms of investments that
they can choose after those three months. And it's an opportunity,
especially if they were able to get into work, you know,

(21:19):
some part time school will patter school work or whatever
and add to it will be good. And I mean
everybody's going on, oh, they should earn it. What do
we want these sixteen year olds at school to be doing.
We want them to be at school learning. We don't
want them to be leaving and going and getting a
job to invest where they know nothing about investing. So

(21:40):
and I mean it can extrapolate it out the they're
going to be coming out tax returns. You know, it
just opens up a whole new world to them, especially
if they can't you know, draw it out and drag
it out.

Speaker 14 (21:55):
It's there.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
And instead of expose finance, saving, budgeting, all that sort
of well not such budgeting, but saving an investment, that's us.

Speaker 14 (22:06):
Up to a huge.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
Number of young people that would never normally have that
opportunity because if you leave school and get a job,
you don't turn around and go, oh, I'm earning the house.
I'm going to open up a five hundred dollars investment
account and I know nothing about it. You're going to
get out, buy your toys and spend your money and
buy your drugs and your mirror and whatever else you're

(22:31):
going to go buy. But if they can't use it,
they can learn how to use it later on.

Speaker 14 (22:40):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Does it need to be real money?

Speaker 17 (22:45):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (22:46):
You don't mean because anyone everyone's kicking up because it
is real money.

Speaker 5 (22:52):
Yeah, but it's it's an investment. I mean, we can
drag it back. I mean, I'll get it back and
filling out tax returns, you know. Then I don't know,
maybe put a zero point five or one point two
five percent dwall back on any profit they make or
something like that, you know, just to show them how
the real world works, you know, if we make a profit.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
But wouldn't they if they game, if they game a fire,
it wouldn't be enough for kids to compete with who's
made the most for their investments or something in that final.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
Term, Well that would be a good thing, not a
bad thing.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Ye's I'm saying. But you do what you do it
with just hypothetical money.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
Ah, I suppose you could, but I mean that certainly
quickly lose interest if there was no real money at
the end of it. I mean, why was it thirty
million or three.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Hundred million, thirty thirty million?

Speaker 5 (23:47):
I mean it's a drop in the bucket when you're thinking.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
It's easier to start to drop in the bucket. But
where are those people going down to watch those flash
weight racing yachts. That's not happening anymore, is it? That
was too expensive? It was only six million dollars?

Speaker 5 (24:00):
Yeah, now wi the I like watching on TV, but
identify to go and watch that stuff would follow me?
But not all of us live at Aufords.

Speaker 14 (24:10):
Thank god?

Speaker 3 (24:12):
How are we going with the Orkan? Are we going
with the Uklan backlash?

Speaker 5 (24:17):
Had it in the Auckland backlash?

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Well, you just said I didn't live an Auckland. Thank
Is there there's a bit of that out there at
the moment, isn't there.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
I don't like any city. I prefer the country. Cities
are two personal. They just conquerte You're just numbers in
the workplace. Nobody knows you. You walk down the street
and nobody says a load. You know, you might have
your little circle of friends, but I don't know. It
just seeks false.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
You have you lived in a big city.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
No, I'm sorry, I tell a lie. After I left
the Army well Keep many many years ago, I worked
and lived and worked in Wellington, drove structuring the day,
worked in pubs and clubs around Wellington to night. The
spirit went from Carmen down there. But yeah, first opportunity,
I got out of there and moved up to the

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Central North Island and I've been.

Speaker 14 (25:11):
There ever since.

Speaker 5 (25:13):
So you can make good money. You can live like
a millionaire up here without having to be a millionaire.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Do you get any rain?

Speaker 5 (25:21):
Very little?

Speaker 9 (25:23):
You know, you do not know who?

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Okay, that's all right, he got drenched day?

Speaker 5 (25:29):
Yeah now' It's funny every time there's a major weather
event around the country, Cameron doing, it's almost they've ever
had with anything hard or severe. It's weird. It's almost
like we've going to own a little micro climate here.
Don't tell everybody otherwise. And all want to come and
look at you, but we don't want to churn into
another sub.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Colin, Colin, I think you're okay. I think you're Okay,
I've spent time there too, far from the sea and
nice to talk twenty away from nine o'clock. Oh yeah,
old Sea Wars student investing scheme. Wow, a lot of
people got there. Well, yes, goodness, it's a metaphor for

(26:12):
all sorts of things. This not going if it's a handout, Jason,
good eating are welcome?

Speaker 18 (26:18):
Yeah, hey mate, now first I call it. Now there's
David Seymour's idea of giving kids money is to set
up to her a little sauce funds, you know, investments. Yeah,
it's a good idea because on the kids doing sixty
five to be no pension, so the good little set
up fund for them to actually mess up investing many

(26:40):
of their money wisely. So yeah, this is my little
trust on it.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Do you think that's his plan?

Speaker 18 (26:46):
Woh, he knows, mate.

Speaker 19 (26:48):
I don't.

Speaker 18 (26:48):
I can't think for David seymourk anyway, if you're fifty five,
I'm fifty five, sorry about senior years left to go?

Speaker 20 (26:54):
So oh no, you've got twelve.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
You've got twelve years, Jason, right, will be sixty seven
this election, I think won't Well, I was.

Speaker 10 (27:03):
Just thinking that one.

Speaker 9 (27:04):
Yeah, they say do that.

Speaker 11 (27:09):
Isn't.

Speaker 18 (27:09):
It's like it's like it's like a like a cut
off point from where you when you were born. But
if you're in the seventies, you don't have to wait
until you know, you don't have to go through that program,
you know, the up of the pension. But if you're
so like like in the eighties or something or eighty

(27:31):
five agy six, you might have to. That's what I
was thinking elst for I was thinking, I.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Don't know how they're going to do it, but they
need to do it. There's no money. But I think
the pigeon's going.

Speaker 18 (27:39):
That's a yeah, well that's a you know, government can't
affords you the pension every year.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
But yeah, by twenty sixty or twenty fifty, there's one
retired person for every person working. So how's that?

Speaker 21 (27:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (27:52):
Wow, yeah, that was We're going and we're going to
be in.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
The nursing home with robots.

Speaker 18 (27:57):
Wow, that's probably the whole plan. There's a place and
that plan, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Well that's the reality.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Terrifying. I don't want to I don't want to have
my last day been looked after my monk by robots.

Speaker 18 (28:09):
Monkey maybe a six spot, maybe a six spot, but well.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Your first time said six pot Jason, goodness me, here
we go.

Speaker 22 (28:17):
Well it's a quick to tearations first call. It'd be
all right if the robot was his expot.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Yes, Jason has made the quiz. David's Marcus, good evening.

Speaker 23 (28:44):
Yeah, good evening, Marcus.

Speaker 9 (28:45):
How are you good think Dave?

Speaker 23 (28:47):
Yeah, I'm all in favor of doing the kids some money.
I went to school with a guy called Greg Greenlea's
and he was exposed to the share market from about
the age of fourteen, and he took up accountancy for
the first time in the in the sixth form, became
top of the class at the end of the of
the year, and he went on to launch a public company,

(29:13):
which unfortunately went to go over in the eighty seven crash.
But the point was he was investing early, and you know,
we could give them this five hundred dollars. I mean,
at the moment the government's giving everybody two hundred and
fifty dollars a year, they could take it out of that.

(29:35):
I mean, the reality is we don't need to give
people two hundred and fifty dollars a year now to
keep the Q receiver TV saver going because it's been
going for thirty odd years now, you know, we should
be just given them money for the first ten years
and then it took over from there on. Yeah, because
obviously you are running out of money and Nicholas already

(29:58):
halt it back from five hundred a year to two fifty.

Speaker 19 (30:03):
So yeah, was I wro thinking that.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
You've got your first year? Do you get it every year?

Speaker 23 (30:10):
Yeah? Yeah, you get they were giving you five hundred
dollars every year. Yeah, okay, yeah, so I mean they
could take it out of that and get them started,
and but they could also put conditions on it that
you know that they that it goes into an investment
account and it stays in an investment account. But like

(30:31):
he we save it.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
But it's just that they've got.

Speaker 23 (30:34):
More hands on control on it. But it's just the
whole sort of getting them exposed to two ideas investment ideas. Yeah,
because I must admit, you know, it's fifteen sixteen when
Nicely just met him. I wasn't interested in things like that.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
He probably would have gotten to that anyway, even if
he wasn't investing, because he sort of got Probably you know,
it's most people aren't. Another thing is they probably should
be at that age.

Speaker 23 (31:02):
Yeah, but you know we talk we don't talking enough
about investments and employee opportunities like that. At school. You know,
we learn accounting and how to do trial balances and
balance sheets and that, but we don't actually see the
application of it in real life investment. And I think

(31:24):
that's really important. I mean, we've got so many kids
leaving school taking on so much a p HP and
then falling over later on because you know, they couldn't
balance the checkbook. And it's it's those sort of life
skills that they need, not just you know, learning maths
and English. Okay, I've done the spiel.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Day for you. That's sound emotional for you. You got
all out there. I guess it's about what the whole
point of school is. And you know, I do of
the belief at school has probably learned the pure stuff,
your physics and your maths and your things like that,
and then you can apply that stuff later on. But yeah,

(32:08):
because I mean it's a fairly full schedule at school.
Oh well, nine from nine dB, it's Marcus, good evening.

Speaker 11 (32:17):
Good evening.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
And what is the emotional rollercoasters? You have put me
on tonight. I mean you started off for the two
words David Seymour, and I went off, this is going
to be bad, and I really really like his idea.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah, well it's hard for some of us.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
So and then I've been listening to your cause and
you know, someone sinks to think they're going to hand
them a five hundred dollars note and say do what
you like with this.

Speaker 10 (32:46):
Well it's not.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
It's it's still funny money.

Speaker 24 (32:49):
It's yeah, it's not.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Going to say real money, but it's it's just a number.
The government already gives us a couple of hundred fifty
dollars a year if we're in Kiwi Savor. One of
your other callers came up with it. At the end
of the four terms, that money, whether you've made or
lost on it, goes into your kiwisaver and is locked

(33:14):
in with all the rules that happens there a start
when you're fifteen, and Kiwi Saver brings in the eighth
wonder of the world, which is compound interests. I thought
it was a great idea.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Are you worried that the length of time is makes
the investing meaningless.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Time The longer you've got it in there.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
But with this plan is is expecting people to understand
share markets and manage funds within a three months term.
But we all know within three months it could go.
It has got as much chance of going down as
it's got a going up.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yes, when I was on the seventh form, they we
had a funny money competition amongst all Auckland secondary schools
where they we had a you know, we could invest
in the share it was the idea was to learn
how to run the run the sheer macht. In my school,
I think we came last or send to us. We

(34:14):
did fantastically well investing in the International Harvester and I
can remember to this day which I thought was a
great idea?

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Was it your suggestion?

Speaker 14 (34:24):
Shut up?

Speaker 3 (34:28):
And it does sound like a really good idea and
International Harvester is that right?

Speaker 25 (34:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:34):
And they were the big tractor company and you know,
farming was always New Zealand's number one thing. And then
they went sort of belly up and thanks very much.
We didn't do well, but none of us King's College one.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
I think of course they did.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
They did fantastically well.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Inside of training they've been asking Daddy where.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
The money is going, you know she anyway, and I
often the advised relatively young people get into key we
say it, and pay as much as you can while
you're young and left. Like I said, the miracle of
compound interest make your money for you. But even my

(35:15):
own key we savor, I managed to buy use it
to buy the downpayment on a house. I'm still paying
into it now orbit twenty dollars a fortnight. There's not
very much money in there. And I'm on a pension
because it's a saving scheme once you've got the idea

(35:37):
of it, and it's helped me out many many times.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
I'm surprised that guys could have been around thirty years.
Has it been around for that long?

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Well, easily. I mean there were some people that was
on the old National Superinnuation and of course.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Years twenty years next year maybe, yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
And I got into it because I've made a few
investment mistakes of my own.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
You know well, and that's all started a young age
of the International harvester. But anyway, I.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Gave away a couple of houses to various women that
liked me once. But yeah, no, I think it's a
great idea and because they can't get it the money
has been befolded in thirty years time, they might go,
I've got a million dollars here that I can invest properly,

(36:32):
like by a house.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Okay, so you're all in favor.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
I think it's an excellent idea as long as it's
got a few guardrails.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Okay, appreciate that. dB. Thank you. There we go, GD
get in touch if you want to talk. So I
don't know what who was what did Colin say? Someone
says bollocks? Colin Ivers said those kids will blant their
fourth year and they can do with it what they like. Oh,
Colin is the guy who's mate. It's gold and stuff.

(37:05):
And then he yeah, even though let's go thought there's
gonna be something I would have heard of, but it wasn't.
I'll launch the discussion after the news. I'll tell you
more about the scheme, Steve says Marcus. This topic highlights
the negative of news, the negativity of New Zealand in general.
Something is a positive idea and get shot down for it,

(37:27):
whilst what a sad little country New Zealand is. Only
the only sad person is is you? Steve. We're having
quite a robust discussion about it. And you've come through
with Nigel negative and saying news is a sad country.
It's never gonna happen. It seems like Seymour got caught
speaking out of turn. It's anathematic act policy. Oh he's

(37:49):
a serial swear of this guy. Anyway, we might give
him the old clickeroony get in touch if you want
to talk onne him. Is Marcus welcome eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty and nine nine text. I feel free
to come through. It's all on. Not often you get
that hour of these without mentioning the old s of

(38:09):
h some please of that. Let's see if that can continue.
David Seymour his idea today is to give every early
or eleven Form five student five hundred dollars to invest,
to teach them about investing. Is that something that's a
good idea or is it a terrible idea? It's the

(38:30):
question for you tonight, Charles, good evening. It's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 11 (38:34):
Thanks Marcus for everything, Charles.

Speaker 12 (38:39):
I think it's a brilliant idea.

Speaker 14 (38:41):
Wow, we'll just make a few tweaks to that.

Speaker 26 (38:45):
I'd probably, I guess and lissially give them to.

Speaker 14 (38:52):
Go through a budgeting face to earn that five hundred.

Speaker 26 (38:56):
Dollars maybe a real life situation. I guess what resonates
with them and the appearance. That would be the first year,
and then I guess the second year potentially run a
business and put a few hurdles so they actually fail
and learn some lessons, and I guess towards their final year,

(39:20):
I would hopefully have them in a position where they
could potentially pay that money back, so I would fund itself.
So yeah, I loved the idea.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
You kind of wanted to be a lot more ambitious.
You almost want school to be a like business school.

Speaker 26 (39:39):
Well, you got to learn the lessons, right, So you know,
when kids, I think.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
School is about to be educated and the pure stuff though,
isn't it your your maths and your physics and stuff.
That's what I always thought that was the key to it.

Speaker 26 (39:53):
But they still got to prepare for the real world, right.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
So when they do go, pad is in school's job though, I.

Speaker 26 (40:01):
Think, So it's got a pivot, right because you've got
AI and stuff coming in the future, so some of
those laborious type roles won't be around. And yeah, I
think you're got to prepare the kids all different scenarios.
I guess I'm futuristic thinking.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
You're very futuristic. Yeah, I guess you've got to realize
that caliber. It's very hard to get teachers these days
to teach anything. I mean, it's not at times are
tough in the school world. So this is this is
kind of you're wanting business advisors to go in there
to help them. It's yeah, it's probably the biggest.

Speaker 26 (40:38):
Hey, I can do all of that. You can set
them up, like you know, businesses, you've got to learn
how to fail and then when you do it again.
You know, even in life, when you fail in life,
if you don't budget correctly for your household or when
you're flaning, you learn some hard and mistakes. You know,
if you're going out boozing all the time, you're you're
living on noodles and bloody wheat bogs like I did

(41:00):
when I was at that young age.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
So I don't reckon you up using the whole time
because you didn't learn your business mistakes at school, though,
did you?

Speaker 26 (41:12):
I just I lest school, really, I went straight to
the freezing rick, so I had no idea in terms
of budgeting.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Probably went probably if you went back to school and
you had your life over again, you'd probably do the
same thing. You'd leave because you probably were not someone
that was that was into it.

Speaker 11 (41:31):
And to school.

Speaker 26 (41:32):
Now yeah Rugby really yeah? So yeah, just I thought
I had my two cents mate.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
Yeah, I appreciate that, Charles, Thank you. There we go
ten past nine. Old Seymour's got the talking stick tonight
into what he's got to say.

Speaker 6 (41:50):
Or not?

Speaker 9 (41:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Oh I turned at eighty Teddy in nineteen nine to
text you want to come through? So David Seymour he
wants to give everyone five hundred dollars a year eleven
Form five. The first term you put it in a
interest account, second term you put in managed funds. Third
time you put in New Zealand shares. Fourth time buyers choice,

(42:17):
crypto sneakers, non fungible tokens. Remember those. I think Old
the Rugby first five was into those, wasn't he Dan Carter?
So disaster weren't they? Anyway, there's probably some of those
lessons to be made. Dodgy investments not dodgy, you know

(42:38):
what I'm saying. Oh, get in touch if you want to.
Oh eight hundred and eighty todayan nineteen ninety to the
text here till midnight tonight. Anything else you've got, I'm
up for oh eight hundred and eighty ten eightyan nineteen
ninety to text. Come on, what do you got, Andrew? Marcus,
good evening. You're there, Marcus, Yes, here, Andrew.

Speaker 24 (43:00):
Yeah, I think it's I think David Seymo's idea is
absolutely awesome and I was into rested in your comment.
You know, it doesn't prepare you for the real world,
and that's perhaps a big fault of the education system.
I'm a university undergraduate. I've studied laur at Victoria, and
you do need to be prepared for the real world,
and I think this is a marvelous way of achieving that.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
But you've also got to learn everything else too. If
you're going to go to medicine, you need to learn
all your sciences and everything. I mean, you do need to.
There's a lot to learn in a short time at
secondary school.

Speaker 24 (43:34):
Yes, how much medicine do you learn at secondary school?

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Refreshment, No, you missed my point. I'm saying there's a
lot to learn. If you're going on to the academic courses,
you need to know all your basic subjects. You met
youth and chemistry, the.

Speaker 24 (43:52):
Real world is put in and that, to you is
the real world preparation for university.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
Oh no, I think you're misunderstanding me, Andrew.

Speaker 24 (44:02):
Okay, we'll rather pass me again.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
I'm saying the point of school is to learn, is
to be proficient of those subjects that you'll need if
you're going to a university course. It's not about learning
skills for living.

Speaker 24 (44:16):
Okay, so you've totally confused me. Look, have a nice evening.
I've lived in the real world seventy three years. Good
luck with that.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Well, wasn't idiot?

Speaker 17 (44:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Well, what was this problem in the real world for
said what's a funny thing to say? Would be on
the quiz though I've lived in the real world for
silly three years. Good luck with that.

Speaker 9 (44:41):
Well.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
I think it's very important to scussing about what you
think the education system is four and then of course
you have the world's best scheme. But people won't be
paying attention anyway because their minds won't be on it.
So I love the way many of your callers think
a free handout of someone else's money prepares you for
the real world. That is Kate Marcus, David Simour putting

(45:02):
out red herrings he started his election electioneering campaigning or
ready regards Kristin, someone says, scheme more could actually use
the money meant for charter skills to fund it, Marcus.
Great to hear that all these callers are doing this
with their own children, again, subbing out parents' roles and

(45:24):
preparing the children for life to schools and teachers. It
is a parent's role to teach their children how to
pay rent and budget. Surely not exactly handle alive a
handover parenting to the schools. I think Peter got no
idea about the education system what it's meant for Hi Amy.

(45:44):
In my age group from fifteen tradeing years old. Some
people currently invest their money into day trading. I sat
in class one day and saw make three grand or
fifty dollars, and he just sat there and watched the graph.
In fifteen minutes he pulled out of the trade and
he earned three grand. Imagine what you could do if
you had money just giving to you too, stuff like that. Yes,
day trading regards some skill, but you can learn easy.

(46:04):
So like a Ponzi scheme. To me, Marcus, they have
slipped In the next chapter of Robots, and again robot
beating a pro at table tennis. He was terrified by that.
That can't be hard. I don't mean that, I mean
that can't be easy to build a robot that's going
to win a table tennis Nothing they can't do, Marcus.

(46:25):
I think Andrew has lived in his own own little
world for seventy three years. We're two aout David Schemhore's
scheme of giving every form five person five hundred dollars
to invest Marcus Deesler ninety one down to three dollars
and tim overy cheap. Have a good night, Marcus. I'm
concerned at the police requesting petrol station to put all

(46:48):
pumps on prepaid to stop drive offs. These criminals will
now steal from cars and private driveways late at night.
Marcus started and KEEPI saved in twenty seven. By twenty
nineteen I had saved fifty nine thousand including interest. In
twenty nineteen, I used forty six thousand to buy my
first home. Without Can we Save, I'd be renting. Can

(47:09):
we Save and will work for you if you're wanting
to put money each week and invest in high risk funds.
Seventeen past nine, evening Corey, this is Marcus Welcome.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
You know, I've got an idea for the investment for
the children. You know, are just driving through past the
roadworks all the time and I'm seeing all these big
flash STMs trucks and all these people's flags and that
thing you were. Twenty years ago we only had one
person doing that. Now we've got about ten plus whatever
administration people they have there. I wonder if they invested

(47:43):
in that, like what this isn't that they'll do very
well because most of the money is not going into
the roading, it's going into the health and safety, and
that goes for every industry anyway.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Are you in favor of roadworkers getting killed?

Speaker 4 (47:56):
No, I'm not a favor But the fact is, you know,
only stupid people get killed because health and safety is
a thing that we've never We've did the rape, they
haven't got.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
What do you mean any stupid people get killed because.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
There's people that are really excellent prone they always get hurt.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
The health and safety. There's been extraordinary gains in health
and safety and news and we still fall well behind
other countries like England.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
Yeah, but I mean these trucks. You know how much
one of those esta miss trucks are costing a day
or now they're over the turns of dollar mark each
and then you've got the people working on them, and
then you've got all these others.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
But you said the people, you see, the people get
killed because they're extant prone.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
There are people that actually just had excellent.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
But you know what a stupid thing to say, Corey,
that's true though sogic case like in situation, total of
those road workers got killed, that's because they were extant prone.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
Because I mean, there's an idiot driving a car who's
rushing an idiot driving a car and muctually run them over.
But that's you could have heaps of flags, heaps of things,
and they're still people will get killed because you've got
idiots on the road. So it's a health and safety
is something you don't have to tell people once a
year ago of all the health and safety stuff.

Speaker 12 (49:17):
And people aren't stupid.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
They know what health and safety is. But you don't
have to down people.

Speaker 12 (49:22):
Are you stupid?

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Are you stupid?

Speaker 23 (49:24):
No?

Speaker 4 (49:24):
I don't know I'd ever have excellence.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Did you say everyone stupid?

Speaker 4 (49:28):
No, I'm saying there are a lot of people that
are stupid. They've got two left hands and they have
excellence all the time, and they're not the right people
to put on the road.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
What if they left handed, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
You've got people that are.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
If you left hand with two left hands, it would
be an advantage, wouldn't it. What a trojan horsing guys
clearly had to wait on the way home with roadworks. Marcus,
I play around the markets and crypto with around five
thousand the time. I've never made three thousand and one day.

(50:09):
I don't buy that woman's story of three thousand fifty
dollars in a few hours. Have you an opinion on
the mondayization of Anzact Day. It's not a holiday. That's
how it should remain. Australia doesn't turn into a long weekend.
It's only half a day anyway. I'll tell you what,
if you've got Airbnb, she should take them off the
market for the ants Act Day weekend. It's disrespectful. I

(50:31):
look at this idea of a carrot in front of
a donkey. How many kids star at school that long?
I may have stayed Shelley extant pron No, Well, Richard,
it's Marcus, good evening. Will we talk to this guy.
This can't you all right, Richard, Good evening, It's Marcus.
Welcome Sally.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
I'm up with the twenty three year old he was.
I mean, there's there's two things with the scoring. I
think if there's going to be five hundred dollars given
to to form five year eleven, there's going to be
some way that they earn it initially by perhaps completing

(51:13):
the unit standards. I imagine they're in schools these days
on how to teach someone what a squared plus be
squared equals C squared means. Because I don't see that
the time that I spent learning that has invigorated my
life or enabled me to live a better one. And

(51:36):
that's just an example.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Did you carry on and study that? Did you study
meth the university?

Speaker 16 (51:43):
No?

Speaker 2 (51:43):
No, no, I never because of my family. And this
is where I'm going to go with a comment that
came across in the last called an hour or so
whise schools taking the role of parenting, Well, there are
some people who have got children that may not know
how to parent and how to steer child in the

(52:06):
right direction. And I don't know. The seventy three year
dude was kind of I think he was pumping to
teach people more relevant stuff, and maybe the money thing
is more relevant than how to figure out the train.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Will Oh yeah, okay, so the people turned up for
school on the first day, and then you've got to
go and earn your five hundred dollars somehow. Yeah, you
think that might be a problem.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Well, it's gonna some people aren't going to want to
do it. Okay. No, you're just going to work be
a waste of the five for the dollars.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
So that's not really practical, is it?

Speaker 9 (52:50):
Because you have the ye, there's a lot of schooling
that isn't practical.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Okay, so is the idea, But it sounds like the
idea is not going to work if you've got to
come up with your own money.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
No, yeah, I don't know how it would work. But
giving nothing for nothing is the call of the mate.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
So what should you learn at school? And so should
you learn to read that school?

Speaker 17 (53:15):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (53:15):
And write? Yep, and just the basics of mathematics.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
I think so at least of course you're going to
design a building, in which case you will need to
know all that.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
But you don't know at thirteen if you're going to
design a building. Do you The idea for school is
to give you all the skills if you decide to
become an architect, or to become a doctor, or to
become a lawyer, you'll have the basics to then pursue
that at university. That's my understanding of how the whole
thing works.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Oh yeah, and we don't. We don't include how to
rent a flat and how to successfully.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
Well, I think that's more parenting stuff. That's not what
school's about.

Speaker 9 (53:56):
But there are some there are some parents who don't
know that, and that's unfortunate.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
But that's I don't think that's school's jobs to do
everything that parents aren't doing.

Speaker 27 (54:07):
Here.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
So we don't get school lunches anymore.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Either, well arguings, I think they are getting school lunches.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Yeah, yeah, but when I was when I was a kid,
it wasn't the other at the school.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
No, it is now because they've decided that people that
have had school lunches are more able to learn those
things that they will need later on in life. Okay, yeah,
but it seems so this seems to be the idea
for everyone. Doesn't seem like you can hang their own
stuff on this idea. Get in touch if you want
to eight hundred and eighty eight. Oh, Marcus, Airbnb, Now,

(54:46):
how about hotels not put up their price on enzact
day as well? Marcus? What a nonsensical? Stupid? What a
non sensical that only stupid people get killed by that caller?
Just read the NZTA stats. The caller lex common sense
and was a trogodyte.

Speaker 12 (55:01):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
Anyway, David seem more five hundred dollar per person when
they're in Form five to learn how to trade and
invest money?

Speaker 12 (55:13):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Headlight of the Daily Mail jobs meltdown in Australia swing,
the three major companies swing, the AX recession fears mount.
He goes bad quickly when it goes bad, doesn't it?
There you go? Welcome people, eight hundred and eighty eight
out if you want to talk, I'll get to the texts.

(55:36):
Trump faces the humiliation of signing an Iran peace trio
awfully similar to the twenty fifteen Obama nuclear agreement. He
wants branded one of the worst deals ever made. A
oh boy, which I could do? His voice should be
an app for that. So Seymour has said he's floating

(55:59):
the idea of this, whether it's election policy or not.
I don't know, well, probably with a response, it probably
will be. People seem to love it. And that's good, Adam.
It's Marcus. Good evening by Marcus.

Speaker 24 (56:12):
So are you good?

Speaker 3 (56:13):
Thank you Adam.

Speaker 28 (56:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 29 (56:15):
My daughter is in year eleven at the moment, and
she did some of that share trading with fake money
last year. She's she's with me in the car at
the moment. Great, I'd late to hear her opinion.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Yeah, sure, Okay, Well how'd it go?

Speaker 8 (56:33):
I think it's really valuable, Like it teaches to the
lessons of like how to actually work with money, and
I don't think you should have to work for the money,
but complete like lessons or modules on how to invest
and what it actually means to invest.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
What was it in one particular subject that you did
this in?

Speaker 20 (56:52):
It was in business?

Speaker 3 (56:54):
Okay? Is this fifth form? Can you study business?

Speaker 8 (56:59):
You can't say out to the curriculent, but we have economics.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
So was it part of economics?

Speaker 19 (57:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (57:07):
And it just was for the eight or just for
the ten months when you're at school.

Speaker 8 (57:10):
Yeah, so it was just it was a turn thing,
so a ten week lesson on it, but we completed
learning on like what it actually means to invest and
the different types of shares you can buy and you
and then you got like you got like rewarded if
you got like good shares back and invested traveling. But

(57:31):
I think if you did do it with real money,
I don't think you should have to work for it.
But as long as you know how it works and
what it means to invest.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
Cheers for Adam, Edam and co. Thanks so much. Twenty
seven away from ten. I do like the person that thought, well,
as far as investing goes, you're readly a longer time frame.
Otherwise it all just becomes ineffective. I would think, because
there's the long game, get in touch with you do.
On a talk eight twenty seven to ten, cure Marcus

(58:01):
Sima was setting like a woke socialist. To paraphrase a quote,
a famous quote. The problem with socialists they often run
out of other people's money, which they love wasting spending
others people I taxpayers money. In my view, is is
acceptable of investments like core education or health. In this case,
socialist seem will wanting to spend other people's money on

(58:21):
election bribe. No wonder Moodies are making a credit downgrade
on indied government debt is reported today, Marcus. Everyone complained
about a five minil a handout. How about thinking of
it as an investment our children's No, I don't think
if it was complaining. I think a lot of people
thought it was a good IDEA good evening, Marcus. I'm gutted.
I've been asked to work ends at day and Sunday.
I don't know me work weekends, so I'm going to anyway.

(58:43):
The Counsel is providing skip bins for flooded communities in
the Wellington suburbs. I'm the guy that hit the pothole
with no cover, have got the wheel fixed because everything
is wet, it's no good, so it gets chucked out.
Then you get a sum of money in year eleven
based on your attendants the prior to years eg. Ninety
five percent attendants are above, you get the full one
hundred dollars Marcus. Maybe seem should be the final ministrraft

(59:07):
for the downgrading of our credit rating today to the
negatio and the negative. The government borrowed a mess of
one nine to four billion last year after record one
three eight billion of twenty twenty four all labour six borrowings.
We're tiny in comparison, What interest are we paying on this?
This government is bankrupting us?

Speaker 12 (59:27):
There we go.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
So people are tense, aren't they? Now get in touch
if your on talk moname is Marcus welcome, But it
brings and it focus as the point of schools.

Speaker 12 (59:38):
Now.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
I don't know the answer to that at the stage,
but I think we're not going to be a real
good society if all we focus on is investing in
the shear market. Some people have to do the jobs
also super fun. The National Head government under Key in English,
pause contributions to the fund from two thousand and nine
to two thoy thirteen to reduce government borrowing, which reduced

(01:00:00):
the potential size the fund by billions of dollars compared
to it. If contributions tend can well, that's not about
this skin, that's about the retirement age. There was some
discussion day, but it going to sixty seven, sixty nine,
seventy one, seventy three. Who knows, Marcus. My granddaughter was
talking about that investment thing. She said you'd invest in

(01:00:22):
war and I said no, and then we had a
big discussion about it. Well, they might even touch ethical investing. Now,
if you want to talk about these things. That's the plans.

Speaker 30 (01:00:34):
Dan.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
This is David Seymour's proposal today about investing. We're getting
year eleven people giving them five hundred dollars and then
invest it. In the first term they invested in fixed interest.
Well they wouldn't really need to do that because they
know the amount, wouldn't they. But anyway, then they go
into a managed fund, then they go into news in equities.

(01:00:59):
Then they go into the last term as a free
for all, and they blow it all or double it
tab crypto Pokey's there's Pokey's investing. Probably not, but you
can't double your money. But yeah, those sort of lifestyle
lessons from school. I don't quite know how far you
go with that. But if you want to be here,
this is a topic for you. Good get in touch

(01:01:20):
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine nine two to
text if you want to come through hit till twelve.
I've enjoyed the discussion. People are up for it. So
he's done one thing right, He's picked the right topic. Jack,
this is Marcus.

Speaker 20 (01:01:36):
Welcome, Hi Michaeus, howay today?

Speaker 11 (01:01:39):
Good Jack?

Speaker 20 (01:01:40):
So Micah said about this giving out five hundred dollars
for kids to learn about investing and all that. So
what is a monopoly game for? What is that game
made for? That is where you learn what's fake money?
And in a game and a fun way they learn
the basics of how things work. And to give out
money completely free. I don't think Seymour will give out
five off his own five hundred off his own dollar

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to free to anyone. It's saxpad money.

Speaker 17 (01:02:03):
End of the day.

Speaker 20 (01:02:04):
There should be a small course about fine and investing,
and kids who pass that with a certain percentage should given,
should be given the opportunity to have this real money,
and it should be controlled by someone else investing in
controlling it. On a let's say one and a half
a year term, just as an example, six months on example,
a learning about interest, how compound interest works. Remaining six

(01:02:27):
months on investing on certain things or trading on certain things,
actual products, not just shay Shares and stocks are real
high risk. You know, how do you lose totally all
the money or you could get make ten times out
of it. So the third term could be yeah, but
shares are still shares. Not something we should teach kids
at this stage. It's a totally it's a basically gambling world,

(01:02:49):
you know. But people who have millions, they can afford
to risk one million, saying if this becomes zero, it's fine.
I can afford to survive on my other nineteen one
million a half. So share markets like that, you know,
one million can make five or one could become fifty thousand,
you know, or a half a million. So that's my
way of looking at it.

Speaker 9 (01:03:08):
What do you think?

Speaker 12 (01:03:08):
And let let the nation talk.

Speaker 20 (01:03:10):
I mean a lot of people are whatever they're talking,
a lot of them are making sense of there saying.

Speaker 12 (01:03:15):
The right thing.

Speaker 20 (01:03:15):
And we want right things for the kids' future. We
want them to learn about money, and they are learning
by seeing us do things every day. We buy food
for them, we buy groceries, we complain about expenses and
this and that. So they are learning a lot of
basic things about how real work world works. So risking
thirty million doesn't grow in tree and giving it out

(01:03:37):
and not expecting it back. Give that money out even
as an interest. We loan for one and a half
years and see who flourishes how and who makes how
much money out of it. I'm sure people who are
come from business family, those kids will really do well
because they have that in the backbone and the guidance
and advice they get from day when they see their

(01:03:57):
family growing in business, so they naturally do well in
a different way compare middle class family.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
But they are also learning.

Speaker 20 (01:04:04):
Middle class kids also come out and become a top
sales person and you know, top in the organization in
different careers and different industry they end up going into
you know, everyone becomes a master in something over years
of experience and hard work. Does it make sense?

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
I don't know if Monopoly teaches you when he real
listens the game of Monopoly, it.

Speaker 20 (01:04:23):
Does teach basics from the kids level one.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
About it's a game of risk. It's all about luck.

Speaker 20 (01:04:29):
Correct, So that's what money is all about. It's risk
and luck.

Speaker 12 (01:04:31):
Isn't it well?

Speaker 6 (01:04:32):
Is that?

Speaker 17 (01:04:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (01:04:34):
Of course it is. Not every investment you do turns
up into gold. A lot of investments do end up
becoming zero. US businessmen who are struggling. The businesses are struggling.
They are losing money on wages and rent and everything,
and they're not getting into sales. Customers are not there
and this competition, so that's a real world.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Thanks Jack, four into ten. It was check, Wasn't it good? Evening. Brian,
this is Marcus. Welcome, Welcome, welcome, Oh button push for me, Brian.
Hi ye, Hi Brian, it's Marcus. Good evening. You're there, Brian, Brian.
If Victoria, it's Marcus good Evening.

Speaker 30 (01:05:14):
It's Brian here. No, no, I'm joking.

Speaker 16 (01:05:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Look, it's genuinely very funny. Who's your next show, Victoria.

Speaker 30 (01:05:27):
I'm here all night.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Whoa.

Speaker 30 (01:05:33):
Look, I can't believe I'm ringing out and the green
with singer on anything.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
No, why would you? I know, right, but I think
I thought it was a good idea that I thought no,
because I think it doesn't it's not going to teach
you anything because the teachers won't be very good and
it's only going to be two months by the time
you get the thefting around with the money. Then you
put it there. Yeah, two months that you know the
thing is right. So you've got four different investments. Your

(01:06:00):
first term, which is ten weeks to invest in fixed interest,
the second term managed funds. The third term would be
you said shares equities. In the fourth year, as you're
free for all, you get the sand shoes and nonfungible
tokens and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Crypto crypto.

Speaker 30 (01:06:21):
I haven't actually heard about it until until it has
it was just the air it But yeah, I mean,
I to be honest, I think it's a good idea.
I think it needs to happen for longer. Like I mean,
if you gave them to year eleven, then you're going
to get the money out at year thirteen or something,
because it's just something you don't learn. Like one of
my forties, I own my own home and things like that,

(01:06:42):
but I still don't know felish about investing because no
one teaches it to you. You know, like I grew
up in a farming family, and you know we're sitting
there doing the old stamp in the checkbook and doing
all their monthly invoices and have generally been you know,
around family that sort of taught your stuff. But investing
is kind of where it's at now, and now you know,

(01:07:03):
it's not it used to be. You know, buy a
house and that was your kind of investment, and it's
not just that anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
But it's also full of sharks and scoundrels and there's
always reputable people that are going bus too. So it's yeah,
it's problematic.

Speaker 30 (01:07:17):
But I think it's like you've got to I've always
been a big believer you've got to have some sort
of financial literacy stuff in schools. And I think you can.
You can learn about it, have it up on a
board and whatnot. But I think if you actually give
kids something to understand how it's working, even if you
tie that into man tie it into attendance, you're not
going to get any of this money unless your attendance

(01:07:39):
is ninety percent of what But you get the money
at the end of it. But unless you do it
and actually have that opportunity, which I think the caller
before said, you know, there's a lot of kids out
there that or the business savvy one with parents will
earn and make good money because they've got the opportunity
to do that. And we'll have the opportunity to do
that later on in life without getting it at school.

(01:08:01):
But there's a whole lot of kids out here. When
I say out here, I'm out in South and and
I just think both kids don't get the opportunity to
have that money to even try and do it. Worse,
to start or someone at home to teach them how
to do that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
I am mindful about the person that I rang in
the first hour he had he had his year investment
SKI when he was at school fifty five years ago,
fifty years ago, and he encouraged the share portfolio to
invest all their money in international harvesters and they lost
all the money because the company went bung. So so
imagine if you invest invested bad and lose all your money,

(01:08:37):
that could that could that could stigmatize you for life.
But anyway, I'm a pleased that you think it's probably
a good idea.

Speaker 30 (01:08:45):
So yeah, yep, that's that's my ten cents worth, ten
cents that I haven't got to invest at the moment.
But yep, all right, thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
Brian, Brian, It's Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 19 (01:08:59):
I'm the other Brian.

Speaker 9 (01:09:00):
Yeah, Brian, I heard you giggling.

Speaker 19 (01:09:03):
I could hear you, but you couldn't hear me. The
coal two calls ago sort of had half my idea
for the children to engage in the game Monopoly. But
there was another game called a game, the Game of Life.
You remember that in the seventies. Yes, and they had
a spinner. You didn't have dice. It had a spinner,

(01:09:27):
but it taught all these things. You get an adoption
of my insurance and all these sort of things. You
get a family and add car and had all these
little children. You could put it into the car, and
it took ages to actually complete the game, but all
the things that would happen in life were on that board,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
And I thought the game, Brian, I always thought, oh.

Speaker 19 (01:09:52):
It was too long, and we sort of never finished it.
But anyway, what I was thinking was when I was
a third former, this is nineteen seventy five, I was
like a sponge, and I think that's the year to
introduce these sort of ideas, you know what I mean,
because what people are doing now, well, I assume people
are doing there me using a lot of their time

(01:10:14):
on the on the smartphone, you know, or the computer
to get on the net, and.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
So you know, you hit what they're doing.

Speaker 23 (01:10:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:10:24):
Well, but back in my day, I was reading comics
and things like that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
Lovely you get a Commando comic that's in your back pocket,
you get it was the kids are not the kids.
I cannot get my kids to read comics big wolves.
And you go to something stick of comics, you go, oh.

Speaker 9 (01:10:44):
You develour them comics.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
And stuff. But yeah, but even like the Commando Act
on those War ones. Yeah great, you knew it was rubbish.

Speaker 19 (01:10:55):
But engliship big.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
Fantastic.

Speaker 19 (01:11:00):
I still love those.

Speaker 6 (01:11:03):
Walks.

Speaker 19 (01:11:04):
Yeah. Obviously the ones I saw like the Bino, I
saw funny ones and the Mad magazine that really spun
my head because it was with that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
Back page you folded and coming to something else.

Speaker 19 (01:11:19):
Yeah that's right. Yeah, yeah, and the nuts and maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
They should be teasting teaching people to invest in comics
because they're worth something. Now you had a number one
Superman or something that'll be worth.

Speaker 19 (01:11:30):
While, it's millions of dollars some of those the first
edition when when Superman first appeared or Wonder One first appeared,
those sort of ones that there was lots and lots
of money.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
So you remember everything when you're the sponge in Form three.

Speaker 19 (01:11:43):
Do you, Well, that's my that's my experience. From two,
I sort of came alive and I started really improving
at school, and then Form three it was I can
understand things, you know, and and it's like unlimited. So
that did what happened at the time where where I think,

(01:12:05):
you know, you've got the capacity?

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
What happened after that? Did the things come unstuck?

Speaker 19 (01:12:11):
I didn't really have a guide of what to actually
aim at. That's the other thing that was missing.

Speaker 9 (01:12:17):
What do you call it?

Speaker 19 (01:12:17):
Vocational guidance sort of person? I think they have it
in America. Well what what I watched?

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
People? There's suby variables that can go wrong.

Speaker 19 (01:12:26):
Ah yeah, I think you get sidetracked too.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Did you get side tracked?

Speaker 19 (01:12:33):
You try try and please your parents and do what
you think they want you to do instead of finding
out what what's your qualities? What's your you know, that's
the other thing that really wasn't should should be done.
It should be what do you call it?

Speaker 14 (01:12:51):
Do a.

Speaker 19 (01:12:53):
Test where they can actually see your talents? You know
what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Did you stay at school for the form?

Speaker 19 (01:13:02):
Sixth form? I had to sit, I mucked around.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
I was an aready and the pool halls or where
were you?

Speaker 5 (01:13:09):
No?

Speaker 23 (01:13:10):
No ill a parent's spot up.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Yeah, so that'll do it.

Speaker 11 (01:13:14):
I had the.

Speaker 19 (01:13:14):
Drama and I used to travel a long long way
to go to college and it was I went for
an interview to be a mechanic and I had my
I had what do you call it? Technical drawing was
my second top mark. Accountancy was my top mark eighty three.
I was fourth in the whole year. Anyway, I went

(01:13:35):
to Auckland City Council with my dad for mechanics apprenticeships.

Speaker 11 (01:13:41):
I think.

Speaker 19 (01:13:44):
Put the marks, put the and Mike's across the desk
to this bloke. He threw it back across the table.

Speaker 11 (01:13:50):
This is not the job for you.

Speaker 19 (01:13:52):
That was the end of it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
I Togo, We've got news, Brahmat, thank you her do.
I I'm welcome. Good evening. Marcus is here. That's the
hittled twelve o'clock tonight, and greetings to you. I hope
it's all good for you. People's where you are. I'll
be here until twelve. Roman will be along at midnight tonight.
There is a heavy rain. It's possible about northern parts

(01:14:14):
of northard of a night until tomorrow afternoon or evening.
That's when that's going on. People to Sparagus Day. Although
I think it should be a sparagus it's not even asparag.
It must be a northern Hemisphere thing, isn't it. I
hope it's all good. But you are people. We are
talking about David Seymour. I haven't already talked about David

(01:14:36):
Seymour before he thinks that fifteen year old should get
five hundred dollars to invest. He's floating the idea of
giving every year eleven student five hundred dollars to learn
to invest, accessing them on their progress, and potentially letting
them pocket any earnings. I reckon he's gone off script,

(01:14:58):
gone rogue. He isn't confirming it as election policy yet
he wants the public's feedback on the idea, and boy
are we giving up that He made the suggestion during
a speech at an a n Z Spots and Business
event and christ Church he reckoned, you should give us
sixty thousand year eleven students five hundred dollars each in

(01:15:20):
a controlled investment account. In term one, they choose a
term to posit a safe investment one that which is
the basic idea of storing capital so it can be
used by someone else to produce earning a return for
the invest door. In term two, they invest in a
managed fund. This introduces risk and term three equities. This

(01:15:43):
introduced the ideas of companies, and Term four they are
to invest in assets from around the world. Exchange rates
suddenly matter. There would be regular tests of students knowledge
which would establish whether they could progress to more risky investments.
That's right, Bluie, you're ready for crypto. Any returns could

(01:16:04):
be placed into students. Can we save a credit on
their student loan or be given to them in cash
or a pressy card which seems to be the modern
equivalent of cash these days. Brilliant thirty million bucks a
year for the scheme. It's not a handout and an
investment in young kiwis to grow their own wealth. Most

(01:16:26):
of probably just use it for their ticket to Australia
when they leave school. Get you there and back would
get you there would at five hundy. There we go.
Your thoughts, best idea ever or of as much sense? Says?
I don't know, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty Marcus.
My boyfriend was in the army. One day he said

(01:16:48):
he's going around to his mates to get training manuals.
He came back with commando comics. Then when the penny dropped,
where's my five HUNDI? I want it dated back to
seventy six. I don't know anyone to invest in the
stock market. To you that schoolgirl who spoke if they
learned how to invest in the stock market and what
investing means all that's needed. They don't need to be
given money. Teach them how to budget, to pay rent, food, insurance,

(01:17:11):
life's necessities. Charlie, I don't know what you're talking about.
Who's the goose stepper market? It sounds like Seymour is
making school into the Wall Street academy. Here's some smarts.
Thank you for this text. I am an economics and
business secondary teacher. Financial literacy is not and not to

(01:17:32):
propose to be a compulsory year, even subject to a
greater lesson degree. It's taught in junior, secondary, intermediate, and
primary schools. Administering this would be an absolute nightmare for schools.
Think bank accounts, shesy accounts, the expectations of parents, and
so on. More work to pilim secondary seas of time,
inter implementing a new curriculum and new qualifications. If there

(01:17:53):
is money to spray around it, this would be better
to give every child a five hundred dollars Here we
save a start. Nice thoughts, seymore, but don't place another
burden on schools. So yeah, it sounds like it's unworkable.
That'd be my thoughts. Imagine the admin. It's sad enough
to get people to tell to school with the year
keep it simple, James. Hello, Hi James, it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 13 (01:18:18):
Hey macau And I was just thinking, like, I mean,
my wife spends so much money on on the but
you know there's other ways around them.

Speaker 4 (01:18:28):
I'm sure there is.

Speaker 13 (01:18:30):
And one of the other ways, I reckon just make
them mock. Uh, you know, like ASKI how to.

Speaker 21 (01:18:45):
Be but with more money?

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
What money?

Speaker 13 (01:18:51):
Like most money, like.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
Just preteen money? Ye ye, yep, yeah, I don't.

Speaker 13 (01:18:59):
Know, Like, I mean, do you really want to spend
that much money on and because because that it's funny,
you know, have a rather.

Speaker 15 (01:19:10):
Yon.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
Yeah, I'm hearing you, thanks James. Maybe a touching idea
everyone should be given five hundred to invest liberate the
economy oura eight one hundred and eighty todayan nine nine
text if you want to come through here till twelve
o'clock tonight.

Speaker 7 (01:19:26):
Pete again there, Marcus, good Pete. An absolutely stupid idea. Wow,
It's just they're talking about bringing into curriculum at school
about basic maths and sort of being to put your
money in basely coming in he did about six months.
It's in the pipeline, I think, and that's where it

(01:19:48):
should be taught at school. We shouldn't have to give
five hundred dollars out here we are. He's trying to
see what goes on. He saves all the school un't
to saving money there, but he doesn't mind splshing out
five hundred dollars at the other end of the table.
You know, I reckon, it's just so just so as
we said the administration to do that, and the burden
that's going to put on the teachers, it's just a

(01:20:09):
total dumb idea would have worked for you. No, just reckon,
it's just a to a minister of that across a fortune.
He reckons it's thirteen million, But I don't know ages.
You're pretty good for his figures on that. But I
across the damn sight more than there. We've got to
administrator at all. But that cut along story short was
he is here, and you prim up here about a

(01:20:30):
week ago, and I went to the meeting and he
had a question time. So I got up and said,
what do you do about the electricity stide of things?
You know, how you know people on their pension they
got three point three percent and on the first of
rightful next minute of what happens. The electricity company puts
up there for an electricity charge, and so they basically

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got a little bit from the governor. Next minute you
lost it all. It's almost like these electricity companies see
that's coming, Oh they've got some money, will fiece it
from them again. I actually agree what whin He's doing
is we have to somehow get control of these electricities companies.
They really are taken of the situation. And he wasn't
for the ideas and I'm not going to He said
he's quite happy with if the electricity electricity is set

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up now. That was David Seymour, and I was quite
shocked when he said that he's quite happy when the
electricity comes to keep on putting our power balls up.

Speaker 19 (01:21:20):
And that is wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
Do you wish you'd been given five hundred dollars at
school to invest?

Speaker 7 (01:21:26):
No, I reckon, we shouldn't. That should be given up
to you.

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
No, pete, pete, We're playing a game here. I'm asking
you if you we should head five hundred dollars when
you were at school.

Speaker 7 (01:21:36):
I wouldn't have mind, but that should be done pay
for the government.

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
That'd be so serious. What would have you invested it.

Speaker 7 (01:21:42):
Then, Ah, if the government's coming up, I suppose you
go along with the rules that he's trying to stipulate.
He going to this and do that before you get
it or whatever, you're lose it or whatever. That's a
hell of a lot of work for a young person
unless you're a.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
Really bright But you need to have a laugh. I reckon.

Speaker 7 (01:21:57):
Oh no, it's true.

Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
You take everything so seriously.

Speaker 7 (01:22:03):
No, it's true that he's trying to save us money
and then he goes his way wife hundred dollars for
every kid. Ats cool? Doesn't make sense to me.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
Well, he thinks we're going to lubit. He thinks we're
going to create this great business mind in the community
that will go on and become great invistas.

Speaker 7 (01:22:19):
He's laughing.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
Was he a humorous sort of a rooster when you
went to hear him speak or was it pretty bit
of a dry occasion?

Speaker 23 (01:22:26):
No?

Speaker 16 (01:22:26):
Is it?

Speaker 7 (01:22:27):
Good speaker? You know, he's definitely an intelligent man. We
got to give him, and he's not stripid at all.
Some of his ideas that he comes up with you
just sort of you know, you're going about trumpet times
and then well, bloody, here would you get that from
maybe maybe he's eating too many a McDonalds or something.
Maybe he's going eating much as well.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
Know how many people were there and that probably about
two hundred everage age, na, I shouldn't.

Speaker 7 (01:22:51):
Say most of them. They're all young ones. Don't go
to these meetings.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
They're playing roadblock. You wouldn't go yet. No, I'm hearing
your pete, Paul.

Speaker 31 (01:23:01):
Yeah, Hi, I just listen to this bak about you know,
see more and give them five hundred dollars to children
to invest.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
Why, well, the article says right in term one, they
would choose a term deposit and that would introduce the
idea of storing capitals so it could be used by
someone to produce earning a turn for the investor. Term

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two would be managed fun that would introduce the element
of risk. Term three equities that would introduce the idea
of companies. Term four they could invest their assets from
around the world, and that would teach them about exchange rates.

Speaker 31 (01:23:48):
Okay, so sitting on her bum doing nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
So in New Zealand, hang on as you asked me why? Sorry?
Sorry sorry sorry Pol? Sorry Pol, sorry Paul, sorry Pool,
sorry sorry Paul? You asked you asked me why that
was the four reasons.

Speaker 31 (01:24:09):
Okay, okay, give me the four reasons. And I'm saying
in New Zealand a problem with productivity.

Speaker 17 (01:24:16):
Do you agree we've got a problem with what productivity?

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
Productivity?

Speaker 25 (01:24:23):
Yeah, yeah, we would have, Yes, we do, yes, And
that productivity is how hard people work. Right, So when
you're giving money to children for doing nothing, just playing
about on the share market, what's there?

Speaker 31 (01:24:41):
What is that doing for them?

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
I don't think productivity is how hard people work.

Speaker 31 (01:24:47):
Well, I think it is.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
No, I don't think it is.

Speaker 31 (01:24:49):
I think it's about actually, that is how productivity.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
That's that's not how productivity works.

Speaker 31 (01:24:56):
Well tell me how productivity works.

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
Well, why, it's not my job.

Speaker 31 (01:25:02):
No, but tell me you disagree with me.

Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
Well, yeah, it's a very subsist to idea that's saying
productivity is just because people not working very hard. There
are sorts of no, it's not, Well it is, no,
the drivers of productivity are more complicated than that.

Speaker 31 (01:25:19):
Well, well, how do you define it? Explain it to me.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
Well, it's not just about people being lazy. It's about
the efficiency. It's probably a lot of it is about
investment and research and development, so you can actually make
money by planting carrots, or you can make money by
investing in technology to build machines to get involved in
an AI and all sorts of stuff. Technology. Technology would

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be sorry.

Speaker 31 (01:25:50):
Technology basically is how hard people?

Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
It certainly isn't you know? It's about technology, physical Paul Goodness,
It's about competition, it's about innovation. You know all these things.
You're just being deliberately simplistic. You can't just say it's
because people are lazy or you paraphrase. But you haven't
rung up to talk about Seymour's idea, have you. I

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think he's gone goodness twenty one past ten, Wow, he's
put the canterbucks and pigeons old old seamore any it's
just an idea, but people get Yeah, it's undtol about
ideas anymore, isn't it? Because people think, I mean, for

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this to be an idea would have to become policy.
Then they have to go to the election on this,
and they be robust discussions. Then of course David Seymour's
at party will he'd have to win EPSOM and that's
not guaranteed because I don't think that Goldsmith's going to
give up that willingly. And then they have to be

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returned to be in a dominant position in the coalition
to get this going as policy. And I don't think
this is the cross you die on. To be honest,
I don't think this is going to happen. But you
ne even know. Someone are national or someone might labor
might take it up. They might think this is the answer.
They might think what's wrong with this country is we
aren't giving eleven year olds five hundred dollars to invest.

(01:27:23):
I do think about dB though, and has tracked the company. Okay,
last company went back? What was it called International's in't
the quiz? What was it called International Harvester?

Speaker 16 (01:27:35):
Was it?

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
Or International National Harvesters? Evening David's Marcus, welcome international harvest.

Speaker 28 (01:27:46):
So that rings a bell, Marcus, get a. She was
a crack of day here in christ today, sunshine. It
was good to see. Unfortunately I could enjoy it. I've
got a bit of a flu from Yeah, I know
it is what it is, banachy and painty, but I'll
get over tomorrow. I think I'll be back into it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Hey, Marcus.

Speaker 28 (01:28:06):
Oh, it got me thinking back to when I was fifteen.
I was taking house foundations by hand for the old
man and cutting and selling firewood from Trenis Country and
the Turnis Country subdivision for mere at Homes. And I
was fifteen sixteen years old playing the league for Shirley,
Shirley Club and Shirley School and earning I remember twelve

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dollars an air cash and that wasn't bad.

Speaker 9 (01:28:31):
Money, that's good money.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
Which you ever were you on a chainsaw?

Speaker 28 (01:28:35):
Yes, mate, a chainsaw in a splitter, a long splitter,
and I'd cut it, split it and I couldn't drive.
I'd get a driver with a trailer, a yellow Mere
at Homes trailer, and I'd go around to friends and
family selling fire would mate. I remember Lombardy poplar one
hundred and twenty dollars a Cord macrocarper was one hundred

(01:28:57):
and fifty and I was a bit of an entrepreneur
and still had, so there you go. I thought I'd
run that boy. Apart from Seymour, this ain't.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
Never going to happen on the cubic meters of the Cord.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
Three point six.

Speaker 28 (01:29:11):
It's a trailer load ate by four trailers, if I
remember rightly, it was an eight by four trailer three
feet high, and I used to put a cage on
it and filled that corner wood with Lombardy Popular America Kappa.

Speaker 11 (01:29:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 28 (01:29:25):
I used to cut it and split it. Only cut
Meca Capper when it's wet.

Speaker 17 (01:29:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
But I used to love the smell of me Cappa
still do. Yeah.

Speaker 28 (01:29:35):
I decided to run that boy, you mate, What I'm
trying to say is installing working. I think I'm not
a fan of giving cash and any money away.

Speaker 17 (01:29:42):
Really.

Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
You know we motivated with money, did you? Is this
something you want?

Speaker 19 (01:29:47):
Yes?

Speaker 28 (01:29:48):
Then I went to Stockton coal mine a couple of
years there. Then I went over to West Australia. Mate,
Always been a bit money hungry, mate, always been a
bit but on the yeah, a bit driven by the
old dough Marcus do me?

Speaker 12 (01:30:03):
I like it?

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
Always we undergrounded Stockton.

Speaker 28 (01:30:07):
No, it's always open cast mate, coal mine, Granite Hell Westport,
just off of Westport there and I was staying in
Greanite and staying and they made an old Felton. I
bought myself a falcon and nineteen years old, man, I
went over to West Australia. I had to contact over
there and started with McMahon over there, mcmohn Contractors and

(01:30:29):
Lyndster Lyindster Laws gold Mine Leinster Mate. There you go
nineteen eighty nine.

Speaker 9 (01:30:35):
So there you go.

Speaker 28 (01:30:37):
Yeah, so I thought i'd run that way. What I'm
trying to say is installing work ethic is far more better,
better for us in the country. I think then I
gave great cash getaway. I think we've been there down
that avenue and education, perhaps an investment and that sort
of thing, looking after your money, making it work for
you and what you essentially etc. And perhaps buying land

(01:31:02):
or back then it was buying land, but nowadays it's
getting on the property letter I think is of OBED
is important, but constalling that, I think is number one.
I'm installing them the school education mate, good on you.

Speaker 3 (01:31:17):
They're nice to talk to you. Get in touch if
you want to, oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty and
nine two nine tow to text, get in touch you
want to be a part of it, as I say, oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nineteen nine two to text.
We're talking about seem as i'd Seemah's idea of giving
school kids five hundred dollars to invest. Of course, so
I don't know what the lessons would be if it's
not your own money, because was your care.

Speaker 12 (01:31:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
You might want to talk about that. That's the plan. Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine to nine to the
text ten to four West Tigers over can beerra they
keptain went off. I'm not quite sure why I got
ten in the but it looked like it was I
couldn't see the commentary, but it looked like it was
for something innocuous. You might have something to say about
that also, Patricias Marcus.

Speaker 27 (01:32:00):
Welcome, Oh hello Margus, nice to talk to you. I
think femals sort of lost the plot. Giving children five
hundred dollars each, it wouldn't go to them. A lot
of families are so poor the money would go to
the parents and they would use it for a living.

(01:32:20):
I think when I was I started work when I
was eleven, and I was getting four pound two and
six a week in a dairy, and that money went
to my mother. I never got a cent of it.
And I went seven days working in that little dairy
for four pound two and six a week, and that

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was given to mum. And at the time there was
a depression, so she was extremely grateful to have that money,
because there was She had nine children and the father
dad was She was an alcoholic. He was hardly ever home.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
He just drinking at the part.

Speaker 27 (01:33:00):
He ended up yeap and he ended up drinking himself.
He died, a drunk.

Speaker 6 (01:33:06):
Died.

Speaker 27 (01:33:08):
They found him in a flat dead and he was
perfectly preserved his body. He'd been drinking Methalada spirits. He'd
run out of money for booze, apparently, and he was
drinking methalada spirits and when they found him he'd been
dead for three weeks, perfectly preserved. Everything so good. I

(01:33:28):
didn't know much about that. But he was a very
violent person right through. I can ever remember him never
being kind. We used to get hit a lot and
he'd take out his his nasty business on us, and
he sort of one kept him out. And when I
was just ten and the boys, she gave to social

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Welfare and said just take them, put them in a home.
I can't, I don't want them anymore. So the boys
went up to a place in Hoddeville and they were
put in there, and they had to stay there till
I were fifteen. We discovered two of them had been
molested up there by the people who were looking after them.
We never found out that till later. But I was

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eleven and told the lady that the dairy that I
was fifteen because she weren't allowed to work until you
were fifteen. I was very small. I had one dress,
no shoes, wholly underwear, and she gave me a job.
I think she felt sorry for me, just quietly, and
she was paying me four pound two and six a week.
And I was absolutely over the moon that I was

(01:34:36):
giving this money to Mum and she was just wrapped
with it.

Speaker 17 (01:34:40):
So that went on.

Speaker 27 (01:34:42):
I kept doing that till I was fifteen. Actually, the
lady used to buy me clothes and she wanted to
adopt me, but Mom said no, that she wouldn't let
her adopt me because she needed my money. And I
stayed with those people. They were lovely, that and the dairy.
Who was the dairy Patricia pardon where was the dairy, Genniberg,

(01:35:05):
Oh goodness, yeah, that's where we lived. It was called
the Tiptop and the people that owned it, they were
just lovely and they had two sons. And she asked
me would I like to come and live with them
and be their daughter.

Speaker 29 (01:35:19):
I was over the moon.

Speaker 27 (01:35:20):
That was when I was twelve. I said, yes, that
would be lovely, but you I have to ask mum.
Of course, Mom said no, that's it. She said I
need her money and that was it. So I just
carried on working and forgot all about it. And then
when I was nineteen, I left there and went to
Farmis to the north, walked into a a walked into

(01:35:41):
a pharmacy there boots for chemist that was asked them
if I could have a job, and he said where
have you been working? I said, Dannyberg. He said doing
what I said, I worked in a dairy there.

Speaker 23 (01:35:53):
Oh.

Speaker 27 (01:35:53):
He said, so where are you living? I said, I
have no idea. He said, have you got anywhere to live?
I said no, He didn't even think about having anywhere
to live. It was stud it now when I'm made
four an hour and thinking back over those years, it
was hard. But he took me home to his house,

(01:36:14):
the manager of boots, and let me live there for
a week and then they found me bored with an
old lady and it was you know, That's how I
went from there. Yes, but I didn't have much to
do with my parents after I left.

Speaker 11 (01:36:26):
Time we did was deed yep, but mother was sort of.

Speaker 27 (01:36:31):
They weren't nice people actually, especially when what happened to
me when I was ten. They didn't believe me, and
I got beaten to a pole for almost I was
raped by a priest and they didn't care, and I
just I went into a depression myself and I was
crying and crying and crying. They didn't do anything about it.

(01:36:52):
They told me I was evil to say such terrible
things about one of God's special people. And I actually
prayed to God to kill me in bed.

Speaker 3 (01:37:05):
I try to say sensitively, but it's probably it's likely. Yeah,
I mean, thank you for your honesty and stuff. It's
sort of this is a bit off what we're talking
about giving money. It's are you still in den of Urg, Patricia?

Speaker 27 (01:37:23):
No, no, No, I'm in old Auckland. Oh God, yeah,
but the same, you know, David Seymour should think about it.
Children should work for what the money they get. It
shouldn't be given just handed, because I think you'd find
the parents that are are really struggling. It would go
to them. The children would not see it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
Where did you walk? Where did you work out again?
Where did you go after book to the chemist?

Speaker 27 (01:37:51):
Went to another pharmacy, small pharmacy where I met my
eggs and I got married at the age of twenty one.
But yeah, it was a bad mistaken nod.

Speaker 3 (01:38:04):
Is a surprise. Anyway, it was what happened. Was there
any good news?

Speaker 27 (01:38:11):
I think the good news was when I got pregnant,
had my first child. Looking at the little soul in
my arms, I thought, this is something I have done.
I've brought this little person into the world. And I
felt really proud that I had done that.

Speaker 3 (01:38:27):
Yeah, so and the kid and the kid turned out good.

Speaker 27 (01:38:31):
Uh not really, no bad things happened, but anyway, the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:38:37):
Let's try and talk for positive and Patricia, but thank
you very much for that. Appreciate that. There we go
twenty two from eleven. Something for super fans. You might
remember Patricia's call. She was the one, I believe that
wrote the children's book of the cars and the garage
that got taken away and there were cats and I
think there were owls and the rafters do you remember that,
and the cars talked. Then someone came and bought the cars. Yeah, gotness.

(01:39:04):
This is what Jared and it's Marcus were.

Speaker 32 (01:39:07):
Yeah, I get Marcus. Thanks for taking my call. Much appreciated. Hey, look,
I just want to touch on two things, or just
briefly on David C. Moule's five hundred dollars for for
for youth. Look, it is a good, good sort of
policy in first and foremost, But look, is it the

(01:39:30):
best way that you could spend potentially millions of dollars?
Like at the moment, like healthcare is like at ground zero,
it needs to be more funded. Education needs to be funded,
you know, Like, is it the best way you would
spend millions of dollars potentially? Look, I don't doubt that

(01:39:52):
it's a good idea, but yeah, I just I just question.
And they have to be checks and balances, because what
stopping the kids, you know, you know, doing the charesy
thing and then putting it in their accoun buying lollies
or video games.

Speaker 27 (01:40:09):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:40:11):
What's to stop? Yeah, okay, I think the money they'd
get the money at the end of the year, and
that would go into the Kiwi saver.

Speaker 32 (01:40:17):
Oh okay, sorry I missed that.

Speaker 3 (01:40:20):
Yeah, that's okay, Jared from Jared from my point of view, right,
like I'm a talkback host that's landing on the plate
for me. I've had three hours and talk back about
that time. I'm happy as Larry. Yeah, because people seem
to like talking about it, because people like to think
about education, mistakes, made, investment. It's got it all. Yeah,
from the topic, it's.

Speaker 14 (01:40:40):
Got all the people.

Speaker 32 (01:40:42):
Yeah, yeah, okay, No, that's great, Marcus. Look, I'm impacting
at the moment. And I thought about you today because
years ago you did a show on the mcl Lemitoff
and outside the Fresh Choice and packed in is the
lifeboat the of the macaw Lemonoff And the first time

(01:41:03):
I've been to pick them before, but I went round
the back and there is this lifeboat and it sprang
to mind first and foremost your show on the McCall to,
and it shrouded in mystery, and it was near the
French Pass where it ran aground it and it actually
I looked up the stats and there was over seven
hundred passengers that it could take. It was quite a

(01:41:25):
big vessel. And yeah, I just wanted to touch on
that because I'm an impact on that at the moment.

Speaker 9 (01:41:32):
Yeah, what was the program?

Speaker 16 (01:41:35):
It was?

Speaker 32 (01:41:35):
You did a showy quite some time ago on the
macaw Limentov and people would ring in and I think even.

Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
Hang on, Jared, Jared, Jared, Jared, you mean a radio show.

Speaker 12 (01:41:49):
It was a radio.

Speaker 3 (01:41:52):
Because ye, I know, I remember it was a radio show.
Ye I've got it.

Speaker 11 (01:41:57):
I had.

Speaker 32 (01:41:58):
I'm not good at a lot of things markets, but
I have a fantastic rememory.

Speaker 3 (01:42:03):
You're quite right.

Speaker 32 (01:42:03):
Someone rung up with a conspiracy theory that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
That's right.

Speaker 32 (01:42:08):
Well, and he was working in a shoe shop in
Wellington and he was he was in the general area
and I was like, oh, that is off the wall,
but like off out the gate. But look, it was
a fantastic show. There was a lot of people that
rung up that were Mariners and like people that were
there when it happened, and that was just a fantastic show.

(01:42:30):
I remember it quite vividly over the radio.

Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
Yeah, I remember a TV show, already moving TV show
at the singing of the micau Lematov and as it
went down, as it sank, the beam of light went
into the air, and it was when they described it,
it was the most moving thing. And suddenly the ship
just disappeared with his beam of light coming at the
top of it. It sounded amazing and I just always
thought about that, but yeah.

Speaker 32 (01:42:54):
I yeah, because because they ran in the ground and
I think there was like quite steep sort of cliffs
in a bay near French Pass, and I don't know
all the details, but look, it was just it was
shrouded in a lot of mystery. And yeah, and look
at it was just a phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (01:43:14):
There was a pilot, There was a local Marlborough pilot
that came under consideration for his performance.

Speaker 2 (01:43:19):
Is that right?

Speaker 12 (01:43:20):
I think it was.

Speaker 32 (01:43:21):
I think there was from memory.

Speaker 12 (01:43:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 32 (01:43:23):
And and look a lot of people in the Mulbra
Sounds area that were there at the time rung into
your show and it was just incredible the insight and
the knowledge that was coming through the over the airwaves
that night.

Speaker 3 (01:43:37):
Yeah, were you headed?

Speaker 32 (01:43:40):
I'm headed to Southwestland. I've got a gold mining mate
and I'm just I'm going down to do some work
down there.

Speaker 3 (01:43:48):
Who's your gold mining mate?

Speaker 32 (01:43:50):
I can't say. I honestly can't say, because he is
of some repute and if I was off here, I
would tell you his name because he's well known.

Speaker 3 (01:44:03):
Where's the claim.

Speaker 31 (01:44:07):
Ticket?

Speaker 14 (01:44:08):
That's awesome?

Speaker 3 (01:44:08):
Yeah, not the guy I'm thinking of. Jared. Oh, good luck.
I hope you're on the color. When do you start.

Speaker 32 (01:44:15):
In about two weeks, so I'm actually gonna be in
thee I'll just say Hoka Ticket Area for the exact
day because I was there four years ago and it
was at a small town. Also as a small town,
we're in the hok Ticket Area and it was it
was phenomenal, but.

Speaker 3 (01:44:34):
There's there's no hurry. There's no hurry to get the
gold out of the ground with the prices.

Speaker 32 (01:44:39):
I was in the Atlanti's backpackers and there was a
lady there that had been gold mining prospecting and I
won't say where, and she has given me the four
one o on where the pickers are brilliant.

Speaker 3 (01:44:52):
Nice to hear from you, Jared ten to eleven bride
in its Marcus.

Speaker 17 (01:44:57):
Good evening, Marca, I may, hey, I'm a bit late
to the moment now, but I just wanted to tell
you that that chrustow was a hip drop.

Speaker 3 (01:45:05):
Oh yeah, okay, and clearly was a hip drop.

Speaker 12 (01:45:08):
Yeah, yeah, look like it.

Speaker 17 (01:45:10):
Yeah they're pretty good at milking it these days.

Speaker 12 (01:45:13):
But yeah, it was a hip drop.

Speaker 3 (01:45:15):
And it's cost in the game.

Speaker 17 (01:45:17):
Yeah yeah, yeah, it's a big momentum shift, that's for sure.
And it's fourteen ten to the Raiders. Now if you
can see that.

Speaker 3 (01:45:23):
I don't know why I've got to I've developed a
hatred for Canberra.

Speaker 12 (01:45:27):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know what that is.

Speaker 17 (01:45:28):
I think it's mutual and there's a lot of not
liking Canbra fans, but they're their only player and they're
the only team in that city.

Speaker 3 (01:45:35):
So yeah, no, I mean last year it's sort of
all seem to support them, but they just you know,
there's two losses in a row after they had one
and they're just their lacks of eporat has just gone
and the coach looks miserable.

Speaker 17 (01:45:49):
Yeah, well they get one up over the Tiler tonight.
That's a there'll be full of confidence again, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (01:45:55):
And I think too when the Warriors beat them at
home and they did the crying gesture to their captain,
I think that was kind of anyway. Yeah, you see,
I appreciate that. Brighton, thank you for the update. That's
good for me. Thank you. Get in touch if you
want to talk. Josh as Vicus good evening.

Speaker 33 (01:46:12):
Yeah, Marcus, Hey, your good yarns with the Seymour idea
and stuff. Yeah, you wondered why that wasn't discussed when
they went update the curriculum, like perhaps that would have
been a good opportunity to look at something then. But
the five hundred dollars thing, I mean, I'm neither here

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nor there. I mean, how much of a difference does
it make? But the actual learning experience is a good experience.
But yeah, again there are people saying, yeah, where are
the parents at in that equation? But no, I mean
my kid's coming up nineteen and we were actually talking
about stuff this afternoon and just trying to actually rationalize

(01:46:58):
where we're at and how to know negate where things
are at and where we're heading. So but hey, just
with the where the money goes, you know, whether it
goes to funds overseas or whatever. But Scotland they've got this,

(01:47:20):
they call it community Wealth Building policy, and I need
to check this out. There's pretty recent. I've been doing
it for a couple of years. But the idea was to,
as an example, instead of putting that five hundred dollars overseas,
we kind of make it explosive for local projects.

Speaker 3 (01:47:41):
I look at that. I'll resarch that some more. Just
I'm going to run for commercials. But thank you appreciate
that seven away from eleven. Five from eleven, let's call
that ten fifty five. We're talking well, not often seemoll
gives you a night a talk bag, Ay, bless them.
I in door knocking with Seymour once when he first
tried to get into politics. He went knocked on every door.

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I wasn't supporting him. I was there of you as
he did it. Do I learn anything? Not really? Now
I've done nothing for headlines, no word on the s
of h sale GP. Goodness, that'll cause upsetedness, won't it?
People love that the thirty is going to trial on

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crimes against humanity.

Speaker 12 (01:48:29):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:48:30):
I'm just trying to say to the other news after
I've missed because we've been so flat out fat tech.
Now be in touch if you want to talk here
till twelve o'clock tonight. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty and nine to nine was the text number. If
you want to be a part of the show hip
drop a. I did injure the guy. Chinese companies are

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offering one hundred and thirty percent bonus to employees who
run one hundred k's a month. Goodness anyway, be in
touch if you want to anything to the show tonight, MA,
name is Marcus Welcome. It feels like nine o'clock. The
night is just flowing. Will ever be if for ever
indebted to old Seymour for that topic. Not many politicians
that can get a single topic stretch.

Speaker 17 (01:49:13):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:49:13):
Thank you for your email, Viceroy. I'll read that when
I've got more time. Oh, this is interesting. Jay has
emailed very heavy rain here in Auckland. Could you fact
check that day? You can see where you are heavily.
Dan's got two walls of glass and he looks out
to the west and the car strangled spanner. So he

(01:49:33):
does give traffic reports free clear crisp autumnal day here
back in checking on the sheep who are no longer
in the high country. Boy, the grass, it's amazing how
much grass too. Sheep eight French as long. They've only
been down like two weeks. Very surprising. Anyway, they seem
happy down with the other sheep. They've mixed in in

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the ram. Good evening, rossus is Marcus welcome.

Speaker 34 (01:49:58):
I think it's a great idea. It's a brilliant idea,
but I'd just like to add something into it. There
should be a provision somehow for these kids to.

Speaker 23 (01:50:09):
Add some of their.

Speaker 34 (01:50:12):
Money that they learned from doing odd jobs or whatever
into it in one of the terms, like the second
term once it's up and running the first term the
second money of their own into it, so that they
get an idea of earning money enterprise. And that can
be say babysitting or lawns or working in a dairy

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or working at a grocery shop or just whatever there is,
and that money can go into the five hundred dollars
and that can be involved in it. So it gives
you an investment incentive and an earning idea of enterprise.

Speaker 3 (01:50:50):
So ross something I have been thinking of. How are
you be in your sixties a little bit older?

Speaker 2 (01:50:56):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:50:58):
And I'm not saying this to disparage what you're saying,
but I am curious about it. I don't think they're
some people probably ring in ubbish.

Speaker 17 (01:51:06):
Me.

Speaker 3 (01:51:07):
I don't think there's probably the part time jobs for
young people they once was, And I don't know why
that is. I think lawn mowing a lot of that's
lord mowing rounds and stuff like. I guess there's still McDonald's,
but there's not the paper rounds anymore, or the delivery
of circulars. I think jobs are quite hard to find
for young people now.

Speaker 34 (01:51:25):
Yep, but that's the that's the idea. I mean, you
can go, you can find any any amount of work
if you want to. You've just got to be a
bit creative. I mean, young girls for baby sitting, people
looking after dogs, animals, you name it. I mean there's
heaps of work if you if you go down any street,

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knock on ten doors, they guarantee you get two little jobs.
I don't know what they would be, but there's all
sorts of people that want someone come and spring clean
and wash the kitchen, do something, you know. Heaps, there's
heaps and heaps of opportunities out there. People are just
got to be a bit creative and find them. And
that would be part of the job, part of the

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the growing up of kids, you know, instead of having
everything handed to them, like twenty dollars a week pocket money,
go out and create a bit of work for yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:52:14):
Brilliant. Thank you, Ross. If you've got comments to add
to that, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty he said,
young girls for babysitting. I didn't respond to that but
fair enough. Yeah, do come to if you want to
add it to this. I think people love this. I
think everyone. Yeah, I'm sensing to a lot of these

(01:52:38):
calls a sense that the young people are hopeless, but
I don't think they are. I think probably they know
a lot more about money investing than than anyone else did.
I think probably they're all on cheesies. I think unfortunate.
They're probably obsessed with crypto and things like that. And gambling.
I think gambling amongst young people's quite a big deal.
I think the tab's big. That seems to be sports.
Gambling seems to be where everyone's going these days. But

(01:53:00):
he's a fine line between I mean, the shoe market's
gambling though, wasn't it? Would you say it's gambling. I
don't quite know how they are mirror that up with people,
but yes, if you want to talk about that, Yeah,
a lot of those traditional jobs for teenagers are now longer.
They're not saying there's not jobs. I'm saying the market
probably has changed. A lot of people are looking at
what it was like in the nineteen sixties, of the

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nineteen seventies, but sixteen past eleven, Hello, Christina, this is Marcus.
Welcome Marcus.

Speaker 16 (01:53:31):
I just that last caller just made me want to
call up. I have an eighteen year old at university
and a fourteen year old here with me who's got
a horse, and we'll do anything to earn some money
to help pay for the horse. And we're in christ
Church and we're both working parents, and you know, it's

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not like it was when we grew up. I'm fifty five,
and yes I was that child who could, you know,
go and sell walnuts and go and sell Fie Joeers
and you know, do all that. And I think we
need to be aware that like we we pay for
a cleaner, we pay for people to do our windows.
It's it's not the same. It is hard for us

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at my fourteen year old.

Speaker 3 (01:54:16):
So what you're what you're saying is those jobs that
normally kids would have, we're more organized and we pay
for someone to do those things. Now it's it's all
those jobs have been taken up by adults, people's businesses,
and that's what you're kind of saying.

Speaker 16 (01:54:27):
A yeah, absolutely, I'm a generation for the set from
the seventies and New Zealand is not what it was then.
You know, we we we we rightly or wrongly, have
to productive adults in the household, rightly or wrongly, because.

Speaker 19 (01:54:48):
This will bring some callers in.

Speaker 16 (01:54:51):
But you know, like we're time pressured and time poorly.
But we do everything we can with our children, so
we we don't care about you know, doing our windows
or doing stuff. I understand, so I would I'd rather
spend time with my daughter at the paddocks and watch
her ride a horse, and be with my son who's

(01:55:12):
now at university. But can I tell you, you know,
and especially my fourteen year old. As soon as she
took at ten fourteen, she goes, Mum, I want it
in money. We can I earn some money? And I said, well,
you know it's last year. Her new friend kind of sold,
you know, fijos and walnuts from our garden. But you
know it's it's not like my generation where we could

(01:55:35):
go around. Gosh. I remember selling, you know, for school.
You know, bloody what do you call it? Like the
washcloths and they you know, I was a brownie. I
sold girl Guide biscuits. I you know, it was safe
to knock on doors. It's not safe to knock on
doors anymore. Well, it is probably but we don't make

(01:55:56):
it safe.

Speaker 3 (01:55:56):
I think it is safe. It's a perception that it's
not safe. I think probably it's safe than it's ever
been exactly.

Speaker 16 (01:56:02):
And you know, my daughter couldn't help, but like go
out and she wants to earn money, and it's not
you know, we have a generation of some good kids
who do.

Speaker 12 (01:56:13):
Want to go and do it.

Speaker 16 (01:56:14):
But you know, you can't just go up to the
dairy like my my my career of my life growing
up in the seventies was working in the corner dairy.
But you know, my daughter can't come up to the
feedermarket and go work in the dairy because she's she's
got to be eighteen because we've got liquor there, so
she can't just be stocking shelves because they need staff

(01:56:34):
to be able to be on the counter to do everything.
So you know, like you know, long, long time listener,
And I've actually spoken to you MICUs Beck in the
late nineties.

Speaker 31 (01:56:46):
But irl, you know, in real life, in real life from.

Speaker 20 (01:56:53):
Hawk's Bay, and I remember calling you.

Speaker 3 (01:56:55):
In the car going but it wasn't face to face.
It was on the phone.

Speaker 16 (01:56:59):
Oh no, sorry, it was back in the day.

Speaker 3 (01:57:00):
Exactly how we are okay, you know, always like a
real life that nice to talk. Christina, thank you, twenty party.
Then Antonio Marcus, it's welcome, It's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 10 (01:57:12):
Well what evening, Marcus. Yes, I'm talking for the older generation.
I don't think this, this idea would Seymour go down well,
like with us, that might be with younger people because
we were brought up, you know, to do our jobs

(01:57:34):
and you get paid and be eventually going to work.
And my parents said to me, if you can't afford
anythink well save up for it. And always being brought
up like that, Marcus, but.

Speaker 3 (01:57:49):
You get you people get the pinch that you get
the pinch on each week too, though, don't you. Oh yes,
I guess that you could. I guess people would draw
analogy with that too. You could invest that.

Speaker 10 (01:58:00):
Yeah, that's for the younger people though we're talking about,
don't we.

Speaker 3 (01:58:04):
I know, but I'm just talking about yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,
I don't know. I don't want to make any difference
to where the people were as far as their financial
habits would go.

Speaker 10 (01:58:12):
Maybe he's trying to appeal to the young people for
not this election, but maybe mixing.

Speaker 3 (01:58:23):
He's thinking of the future. Yes, that's a good point.

Speaker 10 (01:58:27):
They have a young audience.

Speaker 3 (01:58:29):
Nice to talk, Antonio, thank you. Twenty past eleven. Do
you want to be a part of it? Welcome? Oh,
eight hundred and eighty eighteen eighty Oh Marcus. I'm in
my forties and works until to eleven. There aren't the
opportunities for kids to work anymore. There are literally hundreds
of people advertised and they provide those services on Facebook
now and due to health and strict health and safety regulations,

(01:58:49):
they can't work in most companies. There we go, old
mate has no idea. Health and safety is ruined. Young
people getting part time work. A lot of businesses are
owner operated. Twenty five past eleven, Good evening, William, This
is Marcus.

Speaker 12 (01:59:03):
Welcome, Hello, good eve man. So just talking about that
five hundred dollars scheme, and obviously I'm quite young myself.
But the best thing that they could do with that
thirty million that it's going to cost is put it
into the bank when they start in year seven, and
then when they get to year eleven, there will be

(01:59:24):
enough to go keep the skin going and going good
for generations and for the younger kids. Then you don't
have to put so much money, keep sending thirty million
on the year eleven.

Speaker 3 (01:59:34):
A great idea.

Speaker 12 (01:59:36):
So I think it's and then a lot of people
like who are the older generation that are against it
and so that they should work. Unfortunately, the world has changed,
like I used to graphs when I was younger and
everything like that. But these young people now are a
different dynamic in the world of how they look at
the world. They look at through like social media. They

(01:59:58):
look through, you know, like they don't look going down
the street and knocking on the door and asking the
cameo you long for. They're probably on fifty solis nowadays.

Speaker 3 (02:00:10):
They want to become influencers, don't they. We sort of
do posts on Instagram.

Speaker 12 (02:00:15):
Yeah, exact, Yeah, that's what it is. So if they
start the thirty million and also I reckon get like
yourself and other people into the schools to teach them
how to invest and stuff. Even if you've got you know,
like that you've learned, like the normal people are the
ones that, you know that can teach the kids, because

(02:00:36):
there's no time a CEO is going to pop in,
you know and show them how that he's making his
billion dollar company. And that's not against him, but he
hasn't got time.

Speaker 3 (02:00:46):
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I kind of think the CEO.
They did a survey once on the CEO is how
much they work. It's about four business meetings a week
in about ten phone calls. It doesn't seem to be much.

Speaker 12 (02:00:58):
Oh absolutely. And but then that also shows the generations,
the younger generation, that they want they want everything quickly
to tomorrow. But then when they're looking at the role
models like that, why do they want to.

Speaker 3 (02:01:11):
Work fair enough? Okay, thank you William twenty seven past eleven,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and nineteen nine two detext.
You know what the future is for youth jobs? Good
on you, Justin? Sorry Russell?

Speaker 12 (02:01:23):
Justin?

Speaker 3 (02:01:24):
Can I Justin and Russell? Thanks for that text means
a lot. Another night we will discuss your part time jobs.
I had a few of them. It was in three sis.
I didn't really it was really saving for I don't
mean why did a part time job? I suppose I
wanted money to do things. It was never really the
motivation that was all. Also, it always seem interesting to
have a job, do something your paper runs and stuff. Now,

(02:01:48):
how do you think the old straight hor moves is going.
Is it open or is it closed? Gee, I'm looking people.
I'm watching people with going and watching people. Footage of
people storming the epit Bernados. Wow, that's amazing footage. I
presume they are the Iranian Revolutionary Army. Unbelievable. Now, this

(02:02:09):
is interesting. This won't be good use for Nikola. Willis
the US and Iran in a blockade stalemate is Pentagon
reportedly says clearing the Strait of Hormuz could take six months.
Leaked assessment says clearing minds could take half a year.
But there's I'm just on the Guardian. There's extraordinary footage

(02:02:34):
purportedly showing the Iranian forces seizing two vessels in the
Straight of Hormos and the people in that desert cam
that schwartz off desert cab coming up rope ladders. Well,
first of all, there's footage of a jet boat coming
alongside their big mESC container ship. It's frederm and I
don't think it's AI. I think it's probably actual footage,

(02:02:55):
although I'm not saying that it is. There's one of
those inflatable boats, a rib and then they've got the
ladder down and then there's a number of them going
up there, galing up onto the container ship with They've
got just ballo carvers with holes, white ballot carves with
holes in the eyes, in the mouth, and they got
firearms rifles, you know, machine guns on their backs. And

(02:03:18):
then there's foot footage of them go I don't know
why they're filming it, maybe it's the crew of filming it.
And then they're going down through the It's pretty dramatic footage,
but this is the e menandas and they're going through
all the unlocking all the doors. Looks like something out
of Star Wars. Very dramatic footage. Old Trumpe is not
gonna be happy watching that and be back on truth

(02:03:40):
Social before you know it. Hey Marcus twenty four year
old here. I think this has to be if this
was to become reality, would need to be strictly controlled.
There's thousands of ways to lose your money these days.
Crypto coins can be pumped and dumped in minutes. I
can see some kids tending to gamble their money all
at once. Also, these days, with Trump, the price of

(02:04:01):
skyrocket and crashed daily, so it's hard to be confident
the immediate Marc is welcome.

Speaker 21 (02:04:07):
Marcus, how are you good? Thanks middy, But I just
said the incident maybe not related to the subject tonight.
But a police officers stopped me and gave me tickets
and I said, Matt, dad lights is broken, and I
take this to the court and look if I've win,
who's gonna pay for my time? And he said no one.
So I'm just just gonna ask you in if you

(02:04:30):
have any information. Uh, if someone takes the case to
the court and win, he has to spend some times
and this has been disturbed from his work in this
kind of situation. Who's gonna pay?

Speaker 3 (02:04:45):
Why should anyone pay?

Speaker 21 (02:04:46):
If if I receive a ticket, which is not fair,
I need to spend time and money to go to
the court. Is that right?

Speaker 3 (02:04:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (02:04:54):
So so if it's not my fall to receive a
ticket and I'll fight for it, that means I have
spent time for nothing.

Speaker 3 (02:05:01):
That's right.

Speaker 21 (02:05:02):
And also I asked this guy to give me his
card and until you himself. He was so disrespectful he
just ignored me sitting in the current roof. Is it
is it legal not to introduce themselves?

Speaker 3 (02:05:14):
No maydie? Where where were you?

Speaker 21 (02:05:17):
I was in intersection of panel road and a road
that light is broken and you you need to go
to the right end.

Speaker 3 (02:05:25):
And I meant I mean a street.

Speaker 21 (02:05:28):
Yeah, man, it stuck you in the middle of intersection.

Speaker 3 (02:05:31):
Which way are you coming? We're coming up.

Speaker 21 (02:05:34):
I was coming from Newmarket. I go every night from Newmarket.
I go turn right to Airs.

Speaker 3 (02:05:39):
So a street by the deary you're tuning right there.

Speaker 21 (02:05:42):
That's the one mat Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:05:44):
I know the intersection. I know the intersection well. And
there's not a special era er. I was there.

Speaker 23 (02:05:51):
No, what happened?

Speaker 3 (02:05:52):
Did the guy Did the guy put his lights on it?
Did you go through a light?

Speaker 24 (02:05:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (02:05:57):
Because if I stuck there a couple of times, and
it doesn't give me a right hand and I'm waiting
there for right right, then for green light and suddenly
go yellow and red. So I stuck in the middle
of intersection. And it's more dangerous for me to stop
there and interrupting other traffics. So right and and I
went back after police gone. I went there and I

(02:06:19):
took a clip. It just does like this. It doesn't
let you go to right there. You were stuck in
the middle of intersection. And I told this guy that
light is broken and he said, oh, no, you you
you passed the red light. You passed the red light.

Speaker 3 (02:06:34):
You you were you were waiting on the inside on
the lane near the middle for a right turn light.

Speaker 21 (02:06:41):
Yes, and and it doesn't give me right right then.
Sometimes if you're lucky, it goes green. Most of the time,
especially nighttime, it doesn't let you go to the right.
And to be honest, I don't I don't mind to
pay the ticket. It goes to the public. It's okay.

Speaker 3 (02:06:58):
But when where was the where was the copper?

Speaker 21 (02:07:00):
He somehow he was just five hundred behind me, and
it's how I did right there. But that light is broken.
And I get upset because at least, like too professional people,
they can talk to each other. I don't mind to
pay the ticket, but when I ask him, you give

(02:07:20):
me your card and what's your name? He was due
so disrespectful. I've taken this registration number, but I think.

Speaker 3 (02:07:28):
I think policemen have their own number on a badge too.

Speaker 21 (02:07:32):
It was too dark and rainy. I've taken this card
registration number.

Speaker 3 (02:07:38):
But my my, I've never had a policeman introduce themselves
to me. And I get stopped often, and I've never
had one that's introduced himself or had a business card.

Speaker 21 (02:07:51):
Yeah, maybe you're right, mat but yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:07:53):
That's interesting because hey, how much is the ticket?

Speaker 21 (02:07:57):
He didn't tell me. He didn't tell me. And and
look like I said, I work hard. I don't mind
the money goes to the public. It's okay, but someone
needs to fix that line. Man. You you have your
your place, you can you can tell tell the d
t a Auckland Transport fixed that light. That's very dangerous.

Speaker 3 (02:08:16):
Man, Where are you going from?

Speaker 21 (02:08:18):
I was coming I'm very hard working person. I was
in the office in Newmarket and I was coming home.

Speaker 3 (02:08:25):
With home home in what straight?

Speaker 21 (02:08:29):
I'm in McFarland. McFarland, it's near Meadow Bank. That's the
last route in Ramua, right, yeah, I'd go.

Speaker 3 (02:08:38):
The back ways. I'd come up.

Speaker 21 (02:08:39):
Yeah, okay, yeah, So if if if I really appreciate
your time, you no, no, I know, I love I.

Speaker 12 (02:08:49):
Love I a.

Speaker 3 (02:08:51):
Traffic especially, Yeah, you should get you should get the train.

Speaker 21 (02:08:59):
Yeah yeah, maybe with this petrol process. Blood the hell,
I should do that.

Speaker 3 (02:09:03):
But look, would we walk wouldn't be far of walk
to the train, would it.

Speaker 21 (02:09:09):
I think I need to go perhaps or we got
to metebak.

Speaker 3 (02:09:13):
Station either be wilder. Yeah, to change stations in town,
wouldn't you There be a bit of genk yeah, yeah, okay,
but you're working late. You're working late.

Speaker 21 (02:09:24):
Yes, I was in the office.

Speaker 3 (02:09:25):
Okay, yeah, maybe some texts to say something.

Speaker 21 (02:09:31):
Oh, just the conclusion.

Speaker 27 (02:09:33):
Man.

Speaker 21 (02:09:34):
First of all, I thank you so much of it.

Speaker 15 (02:09:35):
So patient, No, no, no worries.

Speaker 3 (02:09:38):
Maybe I should have been a policeman. Thank you. He's right.
There is a light there. It's a light like that
Carpany coast.

Speaker 2 (02:09:45):
Yeah, Mike.

Speaker 3 (02:09:47):
She said that the stread of hor moos Starmat was
bad news for Nicola wors don't you minutes? Unfortunate news
for New Zealanders. I think she's the one that's got
to come up with the budget and got to put
a positive spit on the economy. Goodness, gracious, people don't
take things so seriously. Light up, buttercup, what's gone wrong
with this country? Everyone cheaper screepers. Oh yeah, why do

(02:10:11):
you say this? Why do you say that's just talk back?
No one's died. You're supposed to be a bit of
fun between the commercials.

Speaker 9 (02:10:19):
Jerry, who are there?

Speaker 12 (02:10:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (02:10:22):
I think you're right.

Speaker 35 (02:10:23):
You know about I wish people would lose lighting up
of it and put a smile on their faces.

Speaker 3 (02:10:28):
And yeah, they're just keyboard worries, always trying to text
through all this one you say this, when you say that.

Speaker 35 (02:10:35):
Anyway, anyway, that's you know, we're here to help them out,
help exactly listening spirits, I'm just interested in that chap,
just talking about about the tickets. If there were, I
like you, you get the old rue, you get picked.
But I'm my thing is is never to interact with

(02:10:56):
them because they're they're doing their job and the important
thing is REPLI but not not to have you know,
not too much chat because we're not there to make friends.
He's just they're just doing their job, male or female,
and and my approach is always just to acknowledge whatever

(02:11:21):
and give them a license.

Speaker 11 (02:11:22):
And do that.

Speaker 35 (02:11:23):
However, if when I get a ticket, it's always got
a number on it, like the officer's number.

Speaker 2 (02:11:29):
Yeah right, so that's.

Speaker 35 (02:11:31):
One way, and then then I've identifying who the person was,
you know, to the system. However, I always send an
email explaining my position. In other words, you know, I
just say the reason I did this was not deliberate. However,
the light was broken, and I was very mindful of

(02:11:52):
the traffical and present my case honestly and positively with
a solution in mind. And I'm mostly the fee has waived.

Speaker 3 (02:12:05):
Okay, I quit interesting reas with cops because I get
stopped all the time driving home from work because it's late.
I finished at midnight and I'm on particularly on a Friday,
and they forever pulled me over for no reason.

Speaker 2 (02:12:17):
I probably don't like your program.

Speaker 3 (02:12:19):
Well, they have no idea, They have no idea what
car I drive. They have no idea what car I drive.

Speaker 12 (02:12:23):
And there watching you watching it's all that.

Speaker 3 (02:12:27):
There're all the pull over. They say, now, where you're going?
Where have you been? Big night? Has it been? I say,
I've been at work And they blow into the thing
and it's and it's really unpleasant because it always takes
about five minutes. I'm just keen to get home. But
the other night, the other night, I took off from
work and for some reason, because the car lights are
on for me, I must have changed the handle bar

(02:12:49):
steer it the steering wheels see that I couldn't see
that the light was on and I was had in intersection.
There was a car at the other side of the
section flashing its lights at me, and I thought, I
couldn't really work at what they were going, Coulce. It
was a police car. They just turned the corner and
the copper on the sirens has lights and pulled up
me alongside. And you said, oh you likes full. I said, oh,
sorry about that, blewing the thing. And it was the

(02:13:09):
nicest transaction because it wasn't a big deal. There was
no you know, clearly I'd made a mistake, but the
way that he handled it, he could see I was
just heading home from work, you know, no sort of
oh you know, because sometimes the men are, particularly the
young ones, is.

Speaker 35 (02:13:23):
Really it leaves you with a yeah, it's not very
professional and it's not very well.

Speaker 3 (02:13:30):
It's been a hell of a job pulling over drunks
late at night and doing that sort of stuff. It
can't but you know you do with that random testing.
When they're just pulling over randomly, it's an unpleasant feeling
and they need to.

Speaker 35 (02:13:43):
They've also got to they should really take into count
as the pr aspect of it. If they give a
good impression, they get right.

Speaker 3 (02:13:51):
Yeah, I think so, I think, hey, sorry about that.
You might be home from We're just testing people randomly
to see if you've been drinking. How's it all going
and that?

Speaker 35 (02:13:58):
Yeah, anyway, well, I mean if you're if you're you know,
what is it midnight or after midnight, you could be
out drinking. You know that you're you're in the target market.

Speaker 3 (02:14:06):
Yeah, yeah, I guess so, Yeah, should start biking. Thank you.
Fifteen to twelve Inning student's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 9 (02:14:14):
Gooday, how are you good?

Speaker 3 (02:14:15):
Stewart?

Speaker 2 (02:14:16):
Oh good good.

Speaker 36 (02:14:18):
You're talked about traffic stops. I had one about four
in the morning. I was every from work back to
home and he drove past him, then turned around and.

Speaker 2 (02:14:31):
Fucked U lights on.

Speaker 3 (02:14:32):
And that's what always happens to me. They always turned around.

Speaker 31 (02:14:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 36 (02:14:38):
As soon as he put us lights on, I pulled
over him, waited for him, and.

Speaker 26 (02:14:44):
He walked up and he says, I actually stopped.

Speaker 36 (02:14:46):
You just have a look at the car because I've
got a Sabaru and it's just done up a little bit.
I said, okay, that's fine, and he walked around it
and we were talking for about five minutes. Oh yeah, mass,
we'll do a breakfast while we're waiting and that that,
and he says, yeah, I like your Karen hopped in
his Karen drove off.

Speaker 3 (02:15:05):
So is there a I've got a bad thing for
him to do, Stuart.

Speaker 36 (02:15:09):
I thought it was next to you, very very good relations.

Speaker 3 (02:15:12):
You didn't mind being stopped for five minutes four in
the morning, No, not at all.

Speaker 4 (02:15:18):
I mean, like you've actually Sidney four Marcus.

Speaker 2 (02:15:21):
They have a job to do.

Speaker 31 (02:15:24):
And it's not much point.

Speaker 36 (02:15:25):
Came out of your way just to be as luger
and tour as a bigger heads as possible, just to
just to wind him up. Yeah, anything to make his
job easier.

Speaker 4 (02:15:37):
I'm all for her.

Speaker 3 (02:15:38):
Yeah, okay, but I guess I guess Samara is trying
to work out whether you'd been drinking or not. I
guess if you're seeing if you're a boy racer.

Speaker 36 (02:15:45):
Right, God, I'm seventy three years old, Marcus, I'm.

Speaker 14 (02:15:49):
Not a boy racer.

Speaker 12 (02:15:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:15:51):
He didn't know that when he just saw the car, though,
did he.

Speaker 4 (02:15:54):
Nobody knew as soon as we were on the window.

Speaker 3 (02:15:56):
Down and you're nice to talk to you. It thank
your ten to twelve, eight to twelve three in the morning,
spinning my trucks on there. Cop came up from behind
pulled me over, walked up with a big smiler's face
and said, but you didn't expect me to see me tonight.
We had a good laugh and he sent me on
my way. Nice guy, have to advise me to slow
down a little bit. Cheers Colin. I don't know what

(02:16:16):
the I don't know if cops go to training schooling
about how to do a random check on someone, but
they don't always get it right. But then again, mind you,
they might be dealing with a lot of videots.

Speaker 2 (02:16:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:16:27):
I don't mind a checkpoint. I enjoy a checkpoint because
you know, you slow down your wind down, your window
and your counter five and the way you go. But
when they stop you randomly and swing around and pull
you over to the cheapest screepers again, I've read out
of things to say tonight, which is fine. Grateful for

(02:16:49):
David Seymore giving us a night of talkback about his
plan to give year eleven students five hundred dollars to invest.
I mean, it does look daft, but people are liking
it or not liking it. But I think the most
important or the most reason comment was from someone who
said that you know you can't tell anything in three

(02:17:11):
months for a term deposit or for a managed fund,
because it's all about ups and downs. They go as
an investor, sorry, and a a you know, not an investor,
a you know, a financial sort of financial shark. So
there we go. Welcome. If you want to talk people,

(02:17:31):
he til twelve. If you want to be a part
of it, you want to come through before the end,
I'd like to hear from you. Oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty and nine two nineteen text you got
to text bang that through quickly before the end. Don't
necessarily make me talk right through the end of the show,
because I don't think I've got it in me. But
oh I probably could, but it just be rubbish. There's
some pretty good footage now on some of the news

(02:17:52):
sites of the Iranians storming that container vessel. It's no nonsense.
This is the new normal. So you might want to
talk about that or not. I don't know what you'd say,
but do come through if you want to, oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty and nine to nine to text
anything goes for the final four. Yeah, so that's something.

(02:18:18):
If you do want to mention, oh, eight hundred eighty,
ten eighty and nine to nine to text. So there
we go, romance along after twelve. Now, I'm looking forward
to your texts before the end that we just see.
Oh yeah, raining heavily in Orkad, but I'm not seeing
any reports of any flooding. If flooding. Do do do

(02:18:41):
do do do do do do do do do do
do do do do do do do do do do
do doo. Seeds can hear the sound of rain. You
study suggests when they can hear rain, they'll sprout quicker.
They're in playing sounds of rain to plants to encourage
them to grow. It's pretty good, isn't it?

Speaker 17 (02:18:59):
A lot?

Speaker 3 (02:18:59):
We don't know the wood wide where all the plants
are connected, aren't they? That's right? You read that book? Well,
well where Now I shall be back tomorrow people for
the Friday Free for All. I have very good win
for the who the follow the league. The Tigers had
a very good win, an emphatic win, and that was
good for them. That's Benji's team for those that don't know,

(02:19:20):
like it was a great occasion like art that's happened anyway.
I should return tomorrow night. People, do you want to
email me? You are more than welcome. Marcus at Newstalks,
w'db dot co dot Indeed did it did did? Said
Zaid said, So I can tell you that, but look,
do come through if you want to. Oh that's it.
I can't take any more call to something. I've got time,
but I shall return tomorrow night. If you've missed the

(02:19:42):
last four hours, well that's tough. There's always the podcast.
And what's the score in the cricket? Dan, New Zealand
are one one seven for four? What are we chasing?
And how many overs chasing? Two sixty six? We had
one hundred and forty nine one hundred and thirty three balls.
I will win that? What's criok? And forgot the Bangladesha's

(02:20:04):
chance of winning sixty four percent? They would will win that.
That's my prediction. Could get it wrong? Who keys? You
look forgotten by tomorrow. I see all again tomorrow night. People.
Enjoy your Friday, everybody?

Speaker 8 (02:20:18):
All right?

Speaker 3 (02:20:18):
Nope, thank you, David Seymour.

Speaker 1 (02:20:21):
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