It's like a bat wing (8 July 2024)

Marcus checks in on working at the same place for a long time, the correct way to hold your steering wheel, and why the All Blacks' new uniform shirt is a bit stupid.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus lush Night's podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'd be oh, welcome to Monday and he's in a
Marcus here till midnight. I hope it's good where you are.
Have you ne't got anything to report? How the school holiday
is going? By the way I found out about the
school holiday movies inside out two No, not me and
what's the other one minions or something anyway that might

(00:32):
be to where some of you are off to these holidays.
I was thinking about today that day anyway, Oh welcome.
My name is Marcus head on Midnight's. That number is
eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine two nine two texts.
You want to come through if you have got breaking
news where you are, make sure the first port of
call is to call the station. To be a huge

(00:55):
amount that could happen the next three hours fifty three minutes,
so we've got updates. Do let us know, so there's
anything at all, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine
two nine two to text, So yeah, get in touch
quick smart if you've got the old breaking news. So yeah,
I kind of expect things might happen middle of the
year winter. It's always important to me there up to

(01:17):
date with what's happening as far as the news goes.
So if you have've got breaking news where you are, yeah,
as I say, first port of call and backcatch is
how the breaking news this day? And I'll bring that
news to you when I find that. If anything happens,
be straight down the blower to you and let you
know about that. Yeh. You can text the stuff through
too if you want. Always happy for texts, Always exterentedly

(01:41):
happy for texts. Actually, so nine two nine two is
the text number. And apart from our hope your first
day of your school holidays are going well, I know
that won't affect all of you, but it will affect
some of you. See plenty of grandparents out kind of
doing the heavy lifting with the kids over the school holidays. Yeah,

(02:03):
good on them. Anyway, As I say, oh, eight hundred
and eighty nine two nine two to text, what are
you going to talk about tonight? Extremely good question. I've
got a couple of topics to throw at you. One
is long service duty at a job after they doing
us an in cabit attendants done fifty years on the job.

(02:24):
Cand of think these days it's probably the impossible for
piod to that many years at the same job. It
just doesn't happen. But you never know. There might be
people out there that have done thirty, forty fifty years
at the same job. I'd like to hear from you,
but I never know how long it's long these days.
When the old days was fifty years, in modern quarter

(02:45):
that's probably about twelve years. You'd think anyway, there might
be something that's out there that has done some incredibly
long service. Anyone out there is still involved with working
and have been with the same employer their whole time,
be kind of interested in that. In's longest serving flight
attendant fifty years. Started when males were a rarity in

(03:10):
the sky. Yep, me, you need to take out the
professional are allowed on the cabin, relegated to the galley,
and we're allowed to talk on the PA system. Go figure.
So the guys start. Kevin Yekis, he's been there fifty years.
He's still flying with the New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Good on them.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Look quite different. She doesn't look that different fifty years ago,
just as he wasn't quite as gray. Still got the
mustache anyway. Eight hundred and eighty eight Teddy nine. Looking
forward to your course start HITD on midnight long service
in the workplace the other topic I'm really keen to hear.
And you might be teaching driving, or you might be

(03:54):
a driving instruct or, you might have just learned. Anyone
got any strong theories on the correct steering wheel gripped position.
I always heard it was ten past two. It's not
the time, that's the steeringtenion. I think it's gone to
three point fifteen, No, nine to fifteen. Would it be

(04:16):
nine to fifteen? Quarter past nine? So we've gone from
ten past two to quarter past nine. And I think
that's just to do with airbags. So what I know
about steering wheel positions is it's it might have gone
from ten past.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Ten.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
It must be, isn't it. They've got it ten to two,
But it's ten past ten, isn't it? So you're one
at ten o'clock and one at ten it's ten past ten.
What depends which is the hour hand? On which is
the minute hand? I would think, So there's that, But
then it went to cord to three. I'm I was
re confusing to say. And apart from those people that

(04:52):
do it one handedly, and there used to be those
cool things you'd attached to your steering wheel that you
could drive at one handed. They were banned. Don't know
why they're banned. They must have been dangerous. Well there,
you can probably get one on ten who now if
you ordered one, but probably not get you worried if
you went to get a warrant of fitness anyhow, As
I say, oh, eight hundred eighty twenty ninety two nine

(05:13):
two the text, So the longest time he's been at
the same company and the correct position for a steering wheel. Yeah,
so I've got things to say they would love to
hear from your Oh eight hundred eighty today eighty nineteen
nine to to text, you get in touch, anything else
you want to talk about on these long nights, give

(05:34):
us a call. Oh, eight hundred eighty to eighty nineteen
niney to to text, let's be hearing you. Marcus thirty
one years in my job started as a sixteen year old.
I now own the company. Wow, mind you if you
look at only thirty one years, If you look at
thirty one years in the job, it's only probably back

(05:56):
to nineteen ninety three, which doesn't sound that long ago. Marcus,
twenty five years on Friday at the same law firm.
I could have done two live stretches have went out
by now that's Kate part the look after you, Kate.
But anyway, get in touch if you want to. Eight
hundred eighty and nine to nine twoddicts Marcus till twelve steering,

(06:18):
wheel holding positions, tech, long service and the same job.
You know, the same job, same company. You might have
changed jobs within the company because these days young people
six months and they're away means probably in my line
of work, you spend a length of time in the

(06:38):
same industry, but you don't chop and change anyway, Get
in touch. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine
two nine two to text do get in touch? Oh? Oh,

(06:59):
d tod to tod? Do I call your name Alwen
or or.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
Either all? Oh, officially it's Alwen, but yeah it can be.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, nice to hear from your Alwen. Thanks for calling.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
Yeah you are come. Yeah, I was just thinking, Marcus,
you've been with what is it now, Radio New Zealand
for an extremely long time, talking about longevity.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, although I've never worked for Radio New Zealand.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
Oh so it used to be radio network.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
I've worked for a number of different I've worked for
a number of different well, I've worked for two. I've
worked for three radio companies, right, and switched between them.
I suppose at about five different jobs.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
Yeah, yeah, I was over period of how long from
about twenty five because I used to work for radio
network on a contract, and that was back in about
nineteen ninety eight or thereabout.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Ye know, I would have worked for about nineteen eighty
seven nineteen eighty eight, well worked probably done such initial
stuff on student radio, so that's probably same industry. And
also I'm on TV as well, so it's probably. Yeah,
I don't claim to have worked for the same job
for all those years.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
No, and I guess probably a lot. I mean the organization, well,
you know that the you know, a lot of organizations
change ownership during the periods.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Absolutely absolutely, So you're really working You're really working for
different people, aren't you.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
Yes, Yeah, that's right, that's exactly right. There might be
the same same brand or whatever, but yeah, no, interesting, No,
I thought you'd been on the airway for quite a
lengthy period of time.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
But are you one of those? Are you in the
same job forty years on? God?

Speaker 5 (08:43):
No, My longest role has been for about just short
of five years, okay, but the general duration probably only
about two to three years. And it depends on the
industry as well. But your work and I've probably worked
in the construction industry, which is high risk. So you know,

(09:06):
there's a lot of construction companies that are no longer
around that we're twenty years ago.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Seems spir real boom and busting with construction industries, are
you know, they go well when the economy is good.
When when they're bad, they just all dissolve.

Speaker 5 (09:21):
Oh, they certainly do, and particularly and you know, residential
and to a certain extent commercial, But yeah, I had
a franchise in Auckland here back in two thousand and
seven and I lost my business through the GFC. But

(09:42):
essentially you know that that any discretionary excidentia just drives
up straight away. So it's yeah, it's very much quite
a high risk. But yeah, it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
With that bad are as bad as two thousand and seven.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
Again, now I don't think we are in terms of construction,
I don't think so, but certainly it's effect a lot
of other and I mean retail are certainly suffering, and
there's yeah, any any consumer expensure is just is just

(10:20):
drying up. And I think that the breaker is on
too tight with interest rates, and you know my opinion,
I think we're going to see a lot more over
the next six months unless they love the interest rate.
I think we're going to see a lot more pain
and a bit of a time leg as well. With businesses,

(10:41):
I think you'll see a lot more receiverships over the
over the next six months. But the GENC was particularly
tough for anybody who was in the construction industry. But
you know, I would certainly wouldn't want to go through
that again. But it's been a long while since we've
had a recession, so two thousand and seven and we're
now sitting in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
And when it comes to retail, I'll be surprised if
we ever see retail the same again. I just think,
I think the way supply chains have gone now, it's
all going to be different forever.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
I think, Yeah, I totally agree, and I think, you know,
as the overheads and retail. You know, I was just
out for dinner tonight and just walking along the street
and it's amazing how many shops in you know, fifty
percent off sales seventy percent, and it's like, how do
they survives? You know, you've got time, you've got rent,

(11:30):
you've got staff, you've got all those obligations. But yeah, no,
it must be pretty tough for them.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
But I also think the whole retail experience, with the
caliber of the staff and the disengagement they've got now,
I mean, the retail experience is not what it was
ten twenty years ago. So I think I don't think
they're coming back this time because it just seems to
be so it just seems to be a I agree
Entropy said, and it just seems to be winding down.
You go to a shop now and you ask it,

(11:59):
could you help me about this? They go, oh, that
we've got not really, there's just no engagement.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
No, there's no engagement. And the engage that is there,
I mean you go and ask a question, it's like, oh, well,
you know, sorry to have bothered you. Yeah, you know,
it's just they're so rude.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, i'd experienced by that day. I was just like,
why did I even bother? You know, it was just
I want this and this, Yeah it was anyway.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
Yeah, I don't know why what's driven that is just
a sheer volume of people that go through these days.
And you know, gone o the days used to walk
into a department store and they would greet you, and
you know, like twenty thirty years ago and you were
looked after. But now it's just you're completely ignored or
you know if, as you say, if you do ask
a question, you just get barked at. So it's not

(12:44):
a very nice experience. They're not doing anything to encourage
people to go into their stores, and maybe it's the
amount that they're getting paid, Thanks very.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Much, So they're disengaged because of that, and that's because
they can't afford to pay them because the industry seems
to have just no margins in it anymore.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
Yeah, it's actually like a lot of them, just threes.
Actually the margins are becoming now arrower and narrower, and
it's sort of based on more of a volume game
than anything. It's sad to see, to be quite honest.
It's just become very very pedestrian the world today. But

(13:24):
unless it's high end, you just don't get a good
level of service.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Nice to talk, thanks so much for that. Al There
we go eight hundred and eighty today twenty four minutes
spas date. I'm getting on a flack for about my
driving positions from the texters about when you hold the
steering wheel, but when you hold the steering wheel, it's
caught about it ten to two, But it all depends
on which is your long arm and which is your
short arm, isn't it because one's the hour hand and
one's the second hand. That's what's confusing me about the

(13:54):
whole thing. Although I don't like to be called a drongo,
no one likes that. But yeah, I mean the correct
way is ten to two. Is that right? I think
I'm pretty sure I've got that one right or ten
to two, But that could be ten past ten, couldn't it.

(14:15):
It could be ten to two depending on which is
the long hand, which is the shorthand anyway, get in
touch you want to talk. My name as Marcus, Welcome.
I'll read the text. The number is eight hundred and
eighty to taty and nineteen nine to the text Marcus.
There are several locomotive engineers who did fifty years. They're
the train drivers. By the way, I did thirty five
years and still in touch with many that did. They
expected forty Marcus. The meat industry has many long time

(14:39):
as a lot of the works are in small towns
and it's the main employer in town. One work arrested
in sixty years, but there are many who rack up fifty.
I've never quite worked out with the meat industry. Are
they working seasonal or are they working forty seven weeks
of the year. I'd be curious to know about that.
Marcus just celebrated a guy's fifty years the service of

(15:01):
the rail its industry last week. He only came in
second place behind another guy in the depot has done
fifty three years. Marcus. In the news forty years ago
a guy got pulled over. The car without a steering wheel,
driving with a couple of vice scripts clapped around the stem.
Marcus double seven drives at three point fifteen regards Ray.

(15:23):
Thank you for that. Ray, Marcus, you can be a drong.
Go ten past two, as you say, means one hand
on top of the other. No, it doesn't. It's depending
on which is the our head and which is the
second hand. Louise, it's Marcus Greeting's good evening.

Speaker 6 (15:40):
Hi, how are you Michael?

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Good?

Speaker 7 (15:41):
Thank you, Louise, I just ringing up about service and
I don't, to be honest, I don't think well in
my experience, I don't.

Speaker 6 (15:53):
Think the wage rate pays. The wage rate plays into
people who treat you badly in this in a service situation,
I think it comes down to the individual, the person
of what they're like in their upbringing and whether they
know basic manners. At the end of the day, I

(16:15):
was served by an amazing young man in a service
station who's got a job his student, and I was
just stunned at how polite he was and just how
helpful and everything else. And I think he realized that
he needed a job. He was a school student, and

(16:36):
he would work hard because he didn't want to lose
that job, and so he knew to be kind and
to be friendly and to be polite to people. And
I just think there's a lot of teenagers out there
that think the world owes in the favor and they'd
rather be on their phone and we're an interruption to
their time in the shop.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Did the guy fill your car with guests or just
behind the counter.

Speaker 6 (17:01):
Was getting my times done?

Speaker 2 (17:03):
He helped you do that out in the court.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
Absolutely, and honestly, in fact, I'm going to I'm going
to write his boss the letter and leave the kid
a gift card because he was so outstanding. And I
complimented on it, and he complimented him on it, and
he said, thank you, I appreciate that, and he was
just it was like it was so refreshing, and I thought,

(17:28):
here's a kid doing a part time job in the
service station, a school student, and he could still use
his manners and go out of his way and be
extremely helpful.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
How can you do? Do you not do your own ear?

Speaker 8 (17:43):
No?

Speaker 6 (17:44):
I don't, actually no, because the service station that I
go to they've had problems with the ear filter thing
and so they've just replaced it. And the guy came
over to show you. He did actually show me how
to do it. But that service station is really well
known for service. So they do pumpy petrol, they do

(18:07):
anything like that. They're really good. But the fact that
he was only like a sixteen or seventeen year old
young man was really refreshing and very reassuring.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Wow, which brand of gas station is it?

Speaker 6 (18:22):
It was a BP, a BP, and I think they
pride themselves on this particular year. Service station is very
it's very expensive for petrol, but people go there because
they're pumpy. Petrol, they do you tires, they do all
that sort of stuff. And I suppose the people are

(18:44):
times poor and cash cash rich and they're quite happy
to pay the extra.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
And Wayne Marcus welcome, good evening.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Hi Marc.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
So Twain, how are you good, Lane, Robert, thank you good.

Speaker 9 (18:56):
We've got a house we bought in Birkenhead and it
was owned by a genleman by the name of Bernie
France who worked at the Chelsea Sugar Works from the
age of seventeen sixteen to the age of seventy five.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Wow. Wow he I.

Speaker 9 (19:17):
Only found this and we only found this out when
we're researching it, and you can google him in the
history of vircinead.

Speaker 8 (19:24):
And yeah, he worked there for that many.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Years, same job, I'm not sure.

Speaker 9 (19:31):
For the same job. I think he was obviously, according
when you when you read the book on him, he
started working unloading sex of sugar and he obviously couldn't
do that at the age of seventy five when he retired,
but he must have. He was there for a long
long time. And his wife, Jean, she's They featured her

(19:55):
in a couple of recipe recipe books that they did
from down there. So that's that's the longest I know
of anyone ever staying in a job.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
And I don't even know if the sugar were it
was a good or a bad place to work. I've
never really heard any stories about it. No, not right,
but I'll be fairly good for him obviously to last
that long. Got himself a house, nice house by the
sound of things.

Speaker 9 (20:17):
It was built in nineteen oh seven. When Chelsea helps
supply labor close or help them funded by the houses,
so they could see it from they could see when
the ships are arriving from home bringing about and they
could all go down an unload ship.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Oh wow, so are you're still with insiders? It all
out growing.

Speaker 9 (20:40):
I can still see it. You can still see it.
It's really lucky. It's a bit different than what it
was when we got there. But yeah, I know mister
Ernie Farrell in his wife Jean.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
So are the number of the houses that are the
same design or either build what you want?

Speaker 9 (20:57):
That was all very very similar. We've got three next
to each other that are all got historic ratings on
them because they're.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Brick and the bricker with a board.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
They're all carry carry with the board.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Oh, good to hear from you, Wayne, Thank you for
calling eight and eighty suy long service and steering wheels
and what we call the steering wheels. I've never thought
about this anyway, Pete, Marcus, welcome, you are Marcus.

Speaker 10 (21:25):
Hi, Pete there they Yeah, it's actually eight minutes to two.
I'm just having your Marcus Well yeah right, what no, yeah,
yeah right, it's tea and two. That's that's comfy. That
I did a defensive driving course. That's going back to
me age now. It's probably about about forty five years ago.

(21:51):
So the instructor said then the good comfy position to
hold the steering all was ten to two. So that's
just an old miss an old wives tale or whatever.
But it's there. That's a good makes sense you think
about it. You're holding the steering wheel. That's your comfy
way to hold, relaxing way to drive. I hold your
steering wheel without putting strain on your elbows and your muscles.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
But I think it has changed to quarter to three
because of air because of air bags in that center
of the steering wheel, that's where the air bag pops out.
And because of that, they've moved where you're supposed to
hold it.

Speaker 10 (22:33):
Yeah, you might be right and take much notice of
that moment. It must have must we're looking at the
New York cars. But it was as a rule that
was your old type normal normal steering wheel was always
was said ten to two. And I've heard it before
and it is true. I always drive at ten to
two pretty much, and.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
They reckon a good one if you're tired, is twenty
to four.

Speaker 10 (22:57):
Three out of four is looking at that. It might
be right because you might be you might be putting
more strand on, so ten to two. That, as they said,
that's a relaxing way of holding your steering wheels. It
makes sense driving along. It's easy that.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
It's easy relaxing.

Speaker 10 (23:11):
Your proportion of your body is the same because you've
got you're not straining anything. You're just holding even on
both sides your arms, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
It's quite complicated, it's quite it's quite common sense. It says, well,
I know, but you're not listening, it says from the
from that because you're committed to ten to two. But
it says from it says from the article from Driving magazine. Traditionally,
the recommended hand position was ten to two right. This
advice was established in an era before power steering and

(23:42):
earbags and bags, and was as much for leverage as
it was for control. The recommendation has revolved with the
advent of modern automotive safety features such as power steering
and earbags, and today most experts recommend nine three, with
some recommending eight and four money for long distance driving,

(24:03):
both are considered safer and more effective than ten to
two for reasons earbag safety. If you tend to to
the airbag can be shot into your face, causing injuries.
Better control and reduced fatigue, You're gonna have to change.

Speaker 10 (24:20):
I'll put this.

Speaker 8 (24:21):
Away, Marcus.

Speaker 10 (24:21):
Next time, I'll try it tomorrow and i'll see if
your theory is right and if I think it's right.
Next time I talked to so or so to say
which way you know? Those two? You said, which is
right or which is about right?

Speaker 8 (24:34):
Now?

Speaker 2 (24:35):
So you gonna report back?

Speaker 10 (24:38):
Yeah, well next next, next day or so. You're not
going to go out there now?

Speaker 2 (24:41):
But why not?

Speaker 10 (24:43):
Hey that's pretty dark and it's cold.

Speaker 11 (24:47):
They're gonna do no.

Speaker 10 (24:48):
Next time I drive my car, I'll try it.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
But these are the treacherous conditions. You should be driving
trying different hand grips in.

Speaker 10 (24:56):
Yeah. That we all got our little habits and that's
the hebit of always.

Speaker 8 (25:00):
But I will try.

Speaker 10 (25:00):
I'll see what the new cars, what the steering will
your earbags, I'll see if you are right on that,
no doubt?

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Do you just when you're driving right? Do you afflict
you know how there's that lever below yet your steering wheel?
You can you can adjust the height of your steering wheel.
Do you play around with that at all?

Speaker 8 (25:19):
No?

Speaker 10 (25:19):
No, Yeah, I think that's a good that's persuase modern
cars s will have that, but most cars that happened
four years It's true. It all depends on your height
and you do you do?

Speaker 2 (25:30):
You do you swivel around on drives for a bit
of variation.

Speaker 10 (25:34):
Yeah, you're going to be company when you're sitting in
the car. I was sitting in the seat and you
move your seat forward, you move your seat back. Is
he going to be company when you're driving? You don't
want to be sort of almost like sleeping in your
seat when you're driving. It's not a good idea.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Okay, just run a driving school, pick a lot of
texts and I'll get to those I just kind of
think probably that the the person's job in his shop
now is in transition. They're not quite sure what the
new job is going to be, and they're kind of
a nomen's land, knowing whether they should be full on
helping people or Yeah, I find it quite dispiriting. Don't

(26:11):
go shopping free often, but when I do, I'm pretty
particular about what I know what I want. And yeah,
the pretty straightforward questions to answer anyway. JD. It's Marcus,
Welcome and good evening. Yeah, good, ay mate, what's happening?
Are you tend Are you tend to tour?

Speaker 8 (26:30):
No?

Speaker 1 (26:31):
No?

Speaker 12 (26:31):
Originally yes, when I was first taught, But modern modern
teachings are all nine nine and three because it started
the last guy with yearbags.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
He sounded out to date. That last guy wasn't that flexile.

Speaker 12 (26:44):
My father was an old mot the traffic officer, and
he taught me originally, and yeah, it was always ten
and two. But with modern cars are just peach your
wrists and stuff out of the way for your bags
when they float.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Have you thought of flipping to twenty four?

Speaker 12 (26:58):
Twenty four? I wouldn't say it's recommended.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
But I can't they say that they say it is
the recommended for longer drive. Yeah, they reckon team to
They call it eight and four because of you don't
tell it at the time, But I guess we're what
digital clocks. Eight and four is a recommended for good
for avoiding technique avoiding fatigue during long distance driving.

Speaker 12 (27:24):
Yeah, it makes sense to me. It's a pretty comput
position to be in. But certainly when you're when you're
actively driving at nine and three positions the one to go,
and that's that's what all the government agencies and stuff
recommend as well.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
You ever tried driving with your hands crossed?

Speaker 12 (27:38):
I've tried driving with everything cross Never do it.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Never do it.

Speaker 12 (27:45):
Yeah, you get into a scary situation, then your fingers.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Well, goodness. I mean there's all sorts of things you
do mirror driving, all sorts of tests you do on
a quiet private road. I regret I regret saying that.

Speaker 8 (27:56):
JD.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Thank you. I'll get in trouble for that anyway. How
you're going, people, what's happening? A million texts? Seven an
away from nine, eight hundred and eighty nine. I'll get
to the text too, by the way. Blah blah blah.
Marcus I've worked for the same company for thirty two
years and several others of thirty five years and over.

(28:16):
If you are asking if there is an itamin store,
go to the stores customer service or customer inquiry counter.
They can look the item up on the computer. Contact
the person will know about it or can direct you
to the item or maybe to get the item brought
to you. What they normally say is, you know, I'm
looking for this and this size. Oh, there's just there,
that's what's on the rack. And I'm saying, well, just

(28:40):
those sizes or just those items as there are four
ranges that just there. That's just what's there. And there's
about three things that the extra extra large. Particularly down south,
it's always extra extra large. What's that about? Marcus staff
at an animate store and Ben and a young and awesome.
They always approach everyone who ent is the store and
ask because they can help. They really engage, ask about

(29:01):
your pets and are helpful going into that shop. I
think it's ten and two on the steering wheel, as
is the number on the clock. That's how I've always
understood it. Oh yeah, I've always thought it was ten
two two, not ten and two. I like the time,
I always do as ten past ten or ten to two.

(29:23):
I think I've always said ten to two Marcus hand
should always be in the quarter of three position. My
daughter taught me that when she was learning ten past
two means both hands on the two. No, that doesn't
mean that. I know ten past two does, but not
ten two two, ten to two or ten past ten. Anyway,

(29:54):
I think we understand Marcus only one handed way to
drive one hand twelve fem at all times. Goodness and Peterson,
I'm prettyducing text. Someone wants to know the purce that
was driving with vice grips what position the vice scripts
are into? Very good question that actually so, I think
what you're supposed to say is ten and two, not
ten two to two, which is good. My grandfather've got

(30:18):
at fourteen deliver shoes down Queensry on a cart. The
shopkeepers gave the company to put them through an apprenticeship
as a bootmaker. The company started to struggle and laid
them off at seventy four years old. I started with
DSW now MSD when I was twenty three of just
to go over forty four years, still going strong, Marcus.

(30:41):
I regularly shop at night to ten Mega. The staff
are awesome, highly trained of refriendly. Always shop there, Darryl.
I think might a ten always pretty good. Hardware stores
are pretty good. The people seem passionate. But it's interesting
because people come into a hardware store they're always doing
an interesting project. Oh what are you up to? That's
the answer. It's interesting that the steering wheels haven't changed

(31:05):
that much. Well, you see the racing car drivers have
the sort of little how would you describe it. It's
like two segments of a circle. It's like a bat
wing or something that you hold each side of it.
But not anymore or never on cars MICUs. I'm an

(31:29):
avid fan of ten to two other words, I'm old school.
We're I'm better control of the vehicle, so I don't
need the airbags. Ye, But it mightn't be your fault
that you need the airbag. Someone might sideswipe you. Someone says,
two hands on the steering wheel ridiculous and possible to drive.

(31:50):
Saw a woman tonight in a big car, big car
like a range Drove or something, driving along. She had
no lights on right and I was on the footpath.
I tried to signal to her that her car that
her lights were off, but of course she was looking
at me because she was texting, looking at the phone.
I thought, well, there's a double accident wanting to happen.
It was a dark knight, I couldn't see, and then

(32:12):
she was texting. I don't want to shell thrown a
traffic cone at the car. I wouldn't do that. No
traffic cones, Marcus. How many old time drivers who took
defensive driving courts in the nineteen nineties nowadays just dear
with one hand only I see it all the time.
I was taught to keep my thumbs away from inside

(32:33):
the steering in the case of a tire blowout, which
may cause the steering wheel to spin, causing injuries to
your thumbs. Yes, I think there was a school of
thought that you just had your thumbs along the circumference
of the circle. Am I right? Marcus? I hope these

(32:53):
clowns I see in the morning eating their breakfast steering
with their knees are listening to this discussion this evening. Yes,
but I wonder if we've got their hands and feet
thing right. I wonder if we'd be better off steering
with our feet and doing the controls with our hands.
I mean, I'm not I'm not saying that there's a solution.
But you know, it's been one hundred years since the

(33:16):
hand on the steering where your feet on the clutch
and the break thing developed. How do we know that's
the best way? Might be like the queerty typewriters, just
what we used to do. Marcus Smithew.

Speaker 12 (33:30):
Good evening, Marcus.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
I've never been in retail, but I had a bad
experience the other day. I really just made me chuckle.
I was in a big sports and fishing sport, totally
ignored a couple of staff and the fishing patterns. Not
even a good ay looking around at jackets and sports things.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
You see, I don't I don't mind that, yeah, because
I might be finding my own zone. I might be
looking in some sort of thing that I'm not that
ifay with. I don't want the full. I don't want
full Daniel Boone coming in and dropping sort of hunt
hyper it's hunting questions at me. I'm quite happy sometimes
to just os moost it and kind of learn a bit.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
Yes, I was in a business breakfast group which was
a sort of marketing group, and apparently what you're supposed
to say a few.

Speaker 13 (34:21):
A retail store worker is.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
Have you been in our store? Well, you know, welcome?
Have you been to ours? Oh?

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (34:29):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (34:30):
You know, because if someone says, oh hi, can I
help you? Oh no, thanks, I'm just looking at it.
So you're supposed to say, oh hi, well you know, welcome,
top and have you been here before? Then you can
from apparently, but.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
That does sound better than can I help you? Because
I always feel stupid saying no things just looking. I
always feel what affect you? Because of course everyone's just looking, really,
aren't they? What else are you doing?

Speaker 4 (34:55):
It's a bit more open and what steering wheels ten
to two, nine, nine and three or you use them all?
I range them eight to four, twenty to four eighty four.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
I think we just say I think we just say
eight and four, nine and three, ten and two. I
think that's the easiest them all.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
But interestingly, on sports models, if you've got a sports
model car, the sports steering wheel has those sort of
thick things on the skiering wheel. They are at ten
to two.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, we still haven't got a sport that's interesting? Is
an old sports car a contemporary one to benw.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
One one six I have got so yeah, they just
have that second down the wheel.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Is it a recent car?

Speaker 4 (35:47):
No, mine's are two third a oh yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Fair round, but it's not like a nineteen forties car.
Dow that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
Yeah, it a bit more efficient on price, ten year
old car.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Did you get what you wanted from the hunting and
fishing type shop?

Speaker 5 (36:01):
No, it's just first.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
Time in there having a look at you know, some
half price jackets at three hundred dollars. Still say not
not right for me. But here it's a good shop
of consolation.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Drive here, good to hear from you. Met you, Thank you,
how Marcus, welcome, Hey Marcus.

Speaker 8 (36:20):
Just a couple of quick ones. Got myself of that
confused at the old teen and two, which is where
I want to drive. But then when I went to
through the old CPR courses, and I hadn't done it
for a while, I kept thinking it was ten to
two no matter who, because of the driving thing, And
it's actually thirty to two no matter who.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
What was there?

Speaker 3 (36:38):
We moved.

Speaker 8 (36:41):
The CPR. You're going to do thirty compressions to yes? Yes, yes,
I kept saying ten to two no matter who because
of the bloody driving position.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
So you got those I don't think you're supposed to do.
What aren't you supposed to do any more? The breast?

Speaker 8 (36:55):
Do you just do the now the breasts? Yeah? Yeah.
So I went along and I'm like ten to two,
no matter who, and they're like, no, it's thirty to two,
no matter who. And I'm like, oh right, okay, to confused.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Every time I did my freest aid course I've done
a number of times because they always change it. But
for me, the great reality was you're really only keeping
them alive until the fibrillator. They're not going to revive
from just you doing that. You're just got to do
that until the until the medics arrive.

Speaker 8 (37:22):
That is true. I know the outgoing gane of.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Sorry, I've just broken up in a way that I
can't I can't not your fault, but I just can't
hear what you're saying. I don't have to let you
go because but text thing, because I think what you
said was rever interesting. I just couldn't hear it. Marcus.
Back in the day, I had an angri evan with
a suicide knob, and it clamped to the wheel drive
with one hand brilliant illegal now I think regards Krusty,
I'd just like to get a pedic beasure and try

(38:00):
with the suicide knob. There's always looks so good driving
with that, you know, the one handed thing. They are illegal.
I don't know why. It must have been dangerous for
some reason. Marcus keme at the Good Show back in
South Africa, there were thousands of texts in the form
of highest minivans. They these were owner drivers. They loaded
up eighteen passengers. Some took steering wheels off and used

(38:23):
vice grips so they could take an extra passenger in
the front. Wow. School students Engineering removed steering wheel from teachers.
Karen then watched them going Blissa goodness. Never drive with
two hands on the wheel. Feels like I'm constraining it
too much. Doesn't feel right. We have both hands. It's

(38:46):
where your leverage happens. It's where you mind du You
know how there's that show when you have people watching TV.
What's that called Tellytubb's in my air again? Goggle box?

(39:06):
You need that for people driving? Film people driving I
don't know what you call. I don't know how interesting
it would be, but I reckon there'd be some shockers
because you never see it's your private little domain. No
one knows what's going on, and thever I reckon there's
some atrocious stuff going on, might just keep people off
the road forever. Actually, we don't want to celebrate bead driving.

(39:28):
But someone says, my father used to drive with his
elbows while he's rolling a cigarette. Seemed to be able
to I've seen a lot of people doing that. It's
sort of on a motorbike. And as it's had a
motorbike as a child, when taught to drive the tractor,
thumbs inside the steering wheel would earn a clip on
the air. As a forty year old, I had to
thank that training when I had a camouflaged rock with

(39:53):
a large nonparisistic tractor and the real spun to full
lock regardless of attempt to prevent it. Someone else says,
my granddad would sometimes drive five and seven with his
knees while rolling a cigarette. Brilliant. We are talking the

(40:16):
ultimate steering wheel a hold position. I think anything's fine
as long as it's symmetrical, if both arms hands are
on the same side of the wheel. And when I
say the same side, I'm talking about from twelve docs
e s right down like one and three not good.

(40:39):
The three acceptable are ten and two, nine and three
and eight and four if you knee driving seven and five.
But you shouldn't be need I mean, no one smokes
rollers anymore, do they? They vape so long service at work? Right?

(41:04):
Who's done more than fifty years? Although what's the modern
equivalent of fifty years? Like ten? So there's that and
steering wheel positions and the other thing. Because we've got

(41:26):
suddenly talking about the economy and retail and what a
dispiriting experience of retailers. And during the break, I was
trying to think what my problem is with it? And
I don't know if I'm upset when I go and
looking for something which is not very often and the
service is so bad, i am disappointed missing out on

(41:50):
something I intended to purchase, or I'm kind of panicked
for the future, and I'm thinking, well, what if this
is what it's like now, what's it going to be
like in twenty years, Because it seems as though the
whole experience has changed so very quickly. It feels like
we're in a portal time, like a gateway zone between

(42:10):
retail and non retail, which I'm sure we are. There's
a combination of disinterest and poorly stocked places. I mean,
it's no one's problem. I think everyone's struggling. But maybe
if there was poorly stocked, then someone that was, hey,
this is what's happening. We've got this, We've got this,
we've got this. This might be a bit too big

(42:32):
for you, but we'll get you this and our other store.
YadA yadyah boom. Thought the rugby was good. Hush, people
seem to be enjoying that. Didn't they didn't watch all
of it, but watch most of it? Did I like
the rugby jersey that looked terrible. I couldn't quite work

(42:56):
at what they're trying to achieve. I thought about that
quite a bit of the time. I thought, what are
they trying to do? Are they trying to sell it
to more people? Did they think a jersey that looked
almost part like a white polo shoot? Do they think
that would sell more? And I'm watching that rugby match.
I looked at that jersey with the white collar and

(43:16):
the white bit down the buttons. I'm thinking, have I
missed something here? Is this some sort of fashion thing
that I than twenty years time. I think they were
way ahead of the curve, not that I could see anyway,
And I've never thought about that in the past. Marcus,
I'm pretty keen on a summertime drive. Position left hand
at twelve and right elbow out the window, perfect lulu.

(43:38):
Or they've got to watch out for skin canser, don't
you on your ear and your elbow. That's the other
thing you're gotta be weary about these days. The sun
so powerful. Oh eight one hundred eighty. Staddy, my name
is Marcus. Welcome, hit'll twelve. Keep your emails coming through also,
But Marcus, you see a lot of people who still

(43:59):
were just as day like savings their hands at ten
to one. Very good, very very good. I like that
a lot. In the movable steering wheel, if you want
to mention that, I'm all good for that. What they
should do is they should turn the steering wheel into
a clock. I'll be into that. Anyone going to the Olympics.

(44:23):
By the way, btw is it gonna be exciting? By
the way, it says Boeing to plead guilty to fraud
and US probe of fatal seven three seven MAX crashes
find dodgy titanium anyway, do you get in touch Steve Marcus.

Speaker 14 (44:45):
Welcome, Yes, are you talking about your movable steering wheel
and down?

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Up and down? Run and around three you go?

Speaker 14 (44:52):
Yep, I have managed the two sport. I'm only five
foot in hide where I have the seat as far
forward as it will go, and I put this steering
wheel up to get in. But I'm looking at the
steering whe whe when it's up, so to see a
clear road ahead, I put the steering wheel down as

(45:13):
far as it will go.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Wow, I'm trying. I'm trying to picture all of this.
Because your five foot the seat's going to come forwarding
up as far.

Speaker 14 (45:22):
As possible, little short legs and so so that I
can control a vehicle see as far forward as it'll go,
and the steering wheel down so that I can see
where I'm going.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Yeah, that would be right. Because you can't put out,
you can't put your seat you can't you can't put
your seat up high because you couldn't touch the pedals.

Speaker 14 (45:45):
Ah, it does go up and down a little bit
just to get it comfortable. Sometimes I have it up we.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
But you couldn't really use a booster seat because they
need to be off the pedals, wouldn't you?

Speaker 14 (45:59):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 15 (45:59):
Wow?

Speaker 14 (46:01):
So but I do it works all right, and I'm
quite safe now.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
I'm sure you were other car as you can't drive
in five foot Oh.

Speaker 14 (46:09):
I had a honder Odyssey big six cylinder succeeder. I
had a lot of trouble with that. We used to
do a lot of volunteer driving out from here from
teams to Hamilton for the patients at the hospital and everything.
I sort of had it altered a little bit so

(46:29):
that I was able to reach the pills.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Did they put blocks on them?

Speaker 14 (46:36):
No? I had the seat bought forward over beyond where
it would normally go.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Wow.

Speaker 14 (46:44):
But there that yeah, that I find when I've got
the steering wheel down, I then got a one n
clear view of where I'm going and I'm in control
of the vehicle. When I stopped to get out, I
put the steering wheel up so that I can get
out comfortably.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
And And what angle would you your forearms be when
you're driving? Are they almost horizontal?

Speaker 16 (47:12):
Ah?

Speaker 14 (47:13):
They're down? Actually yeah, they would be. I guess, yeah,
And I find out I have full control.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
You know, you got good you got good vision? Haven't you.

Speaker 14 (47:26):
Yeah, God, a nervous vision. The way the bonnet is shaped,
it pulls away at the front. I can't see the
It's a matter of judging where the front of the
car is. You learn after a little while exactly where
it is. It's got a reversing camera, and I'm told
I can put a forward camera in there for packing.

(47:49):
Oh you need that, but but no, it's just a
matter of With the Honda, I had a stick screwed
onto the side of the left hand midguard and that
gave me a guide as to where the end of
the car was book for parking. But the mass is okay?

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Was it a sacrificial stick?

Speaker 14 (48:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (48:15):
It was.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Well.

Speaker 14 (48:16):
I actually had a light in it as well.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Whereabouts in the car at the front left or the
back left front left. So if you heard that go
bang and night, you've broken your stick.

Speaker 15 (48:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (48:30):
And there was also a bit of curly wire I
had on the mud guard, and if I touched the curve,
I can hear it. Raful.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Did the stick come out forward or sideways from the car?

Speaker 14 (48:43):
It was straight. It's vertical. It was vertical about oh,
about three hundred millimeters back from the actual front of
the car. But it gave me a guide as to
where the corner was. I understand, you know it, you
know with the with the bonnet just sort of disappears

(49:06):
and you've really got no sight of the Did.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
The mechanic put the mechanic put that on?

Speaker 14 (49:12):
Yeah, in his little light on us at night it
lit up and you could actually see the corner of
the you know, beyond where the you've got your headlights,
you can see the road ahead.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Have you ever noticed that? Have you even noticed that
anyone else's car? I have never seen someone without without
I've seen.

Speaker 14 (49:32):
The odd one, usually on older cars, not on modern ones.
You sort of suld of got to just judge it.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
That.

Speaker 14 (49:44):
Yeah, I'm not the I'm not the best of packers,
and but yeah, no, I find that's just a little
bit of a.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Guide from Hold your horse has be with you? So
eight hundred tispeck an attack dB. It's Marcus, greetings, good evening.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
You're talking about just steering wheels?

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yes, how work?

Speaker 3 (50:10):
They work quite well when you when you're not expecting
them to. I've been given a brand new tour coach
to drive, which I've never seen before. So I sat
in a seat it looked like the bridge with the
star ship Enterprise, and it was obviously I was going
to need to adjust the steering wheel. So after a
few minutes of searching, I found a button that had

(50:32):
a steering wheel on it on the dashboard. I pressed it.
Not only does the steering wheel move, the dashboard moves
with it. Wow, And that's that was my reactions.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
What was it?

Speaker 9 (50:49):
Sorry?

Speaker 2 (50:50):
What was it?

Speaker 3 (50:51):
A tour coach? Big butts carry passages.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
And it would it would go, so that just wow,
that's amazing. Eh.

Speaker 9 (51:01):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
It caught me completely by surprise, because even butters have
adjustable steering wheels. This was the first one I've found
that where the steering wheel and the dashboard work in conjunction.
Then when you press the button again, all locks up
in the position you've faced it.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
You wonder what next is going to be, don't you
What's going to happen will.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Be something that comes down from the ceiling and says,
where do you want to go and don't touch anything.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
We'll just all be What will probably be it will
probably be gloves in your hands and you just sit
there and move your move your hands and they because
that that could happen couldn't it if they had centers
in your hands.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Well, what happens when you get that? It's behind your
ear And.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
That's a good point. You off the road. Oh, there
we are in the Dutch. Yes, that's a good point,
isn't it. That's such a good plan.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
I thought i'd literally know about that one, because i'd quite.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Like, I'd quite like the joystick like they had originally
as well, Like you're in the you know, the joystick
in the middle would be good for you because you
could go back and forward? Could you couldn't go sidewards? Okay?

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Yeah, Well aeroplanes of course have the joystick and at
least you can change hands on it. I guess, well,
I don't guess I know, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Are you are you tend Are you a tender to
nine to three? Eight to four? Or lost your licenser?

Speaker 3 (52:22):
I'm about to lose the light? Yeah, only because of
only because of my age. But I was after my
arms get sore in one position, move into another, because
I was used to be on the road up to
eleven hours a day. Yes, so whatever was comfortable. You
were talking about steering with spinners, the old mob that

(52:44):
you could.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Spinner, is it what they were called.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Yeah, they're called a spinner and for backing a trainer.
They were brilliant.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
I'd love that. I can just see it. I see it.
It looked like I could just see myself doing that
and help can command. I'd be wizzing that around with
their head swiveled.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Well, here's a little track, because on some tracks they
used to have one that would flick down below the
steering wheel level that so you wouldn't catch your sleeves
on it, which was basically their problem. And when I
had it on my x J six, I had this,
I had put the spinner on inside the steering wheel,

(53:22):
not outside. That way you could then go steering wheel,
you know, when doing tight turns, and you wouldn't catch
your fingers as it spun past them.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Is it why they were Is it why they were banned?
Just because I'd catch your sleeve?

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Yeah, that catch your sleeve, you catch fingers. All sorts
of naster things would happen.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Okay, So that's why they called a suicide knob.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
I've never heard it called that, but I absolutely understand
that court that that title.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Yeah. Yeah, I just I just yeah, I because I
get what would they do? They get caught your sleeve.
What was the other thing that happened to them?

Speaker 3 (54:01):
You know how when you've taken a tight cordy to
reset the cereal, you just go of it a little
sentence yes, yes, and it could spin quite quickly take
out a lot of people will get their fingers because
it was on the outside of the wheel and your
hands are there. It would whack people across the tenders.
And I suppose acc ahead of you. Oh look, he's

(54:24):
bruised his pinky. You know we can't have bet.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Are you're not going to go for your license when
you get old, you got to tap out.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
Me know, all of my licenses other than my car
license will expire in two months time when I turned
sixty five three. Because it's getting harder and harder to
maintain the medicals. Yeah, like, unlike new car driving people, US,
heavy transport people have to have a medical every now

(54:52):
and then.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Oh good luck with that, I thank you, Marcus. A
lot of Japanese inputs have those way flagpoles on the
front a parking Marcus one ride sign. It's anymore l
is seeds into speed signs other than now. In fact,
I have no clue Marcus. The one hand at twelve
the other some smoke or drink reading a pie though,
what a save pie to eat on the move, not carpie,

(55:16):
too much gravy, Marcus. Retail shops are challenging nowadays. They
show no interest in mumbler question can I help you?
I reply, no, thanks, just shoplifting their stock replies okay,
can they wander off? Marcus? The ab shit reminded me

(55:36):
of Quakers. Awful trish g Yeah, I think they look terrible.
No one's going to buy one, are they? Who is
the designer? Because eddiots have quite good designers, don't they.
I mean they're kind of all or part of it, Marcus.
It wasn't the all blacks playing. It was the Vienna
Boys choir Quintin.

Speaker 17 (55:59):
Oh, that's our little knob on the will. We used
to call those a spinner Marcus, back in the day.
Any good, Yeah, they were quite there are a lot
of fun. Actually, when you were we probably shouldn't talk
about that, should Were.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
You talking about boy Racer in the seventies? Yet we
were about yeah.

Speaker 17 (56:13):
Yeah, and the old Murray Thowe But yeah, and there
was power steering around back in those days. But it
was an expensive option that you had to pay a
lot of money for. Same with automative transmission.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Would they put an after kit thing on? Could they
could your bart and then add it on?

Speaker 17 (56:27):
I know, I think you actually had to specify that
the you know, when you were buying it new that
the car had it, and it was an extra that
they put on in the factory or brought in a
model that had it.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
So if you find out what the first car with
power steering was.

Speaker 17 (56:39):
Yeah, I'd imagine it was fairly early on. But you know,
for the standard sort of cars that most punters could
buy in those days, you did actually have to pay
extra for that, and automatic transmission and all of those
little bits and bobs.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
The old think you had a way to ten mantamers Marcus, welcome.
Oh and the old black jersey as well. They're on
the topics that we talk about tonight, Marcus. Are steering
wheel covers a great help or a great hindrance? I
think they're illegal? No, hang on. The things that are
illegal are those seat covers with all those wooden beads.
I think what's happened with the air bags? They've ruined everything.

Speaker 14 (57:12):
I think.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Don't think you have those seat covers because the airbags
will prevent those sometimes have those text drives, got those
very comfortable looking seek things, or those wooden beads aren't gone.
And I don't know if you can put the thing
on the steering wheel, the leather thing. I think they
might affect your old whiz bang when you have an accident.
Out of all the things that amaze me, one is

(57:34):
how planes fly, the others how FATX works. But the
thing that really I find extraordinary is how airbags can
be activated so quickly that they can inflate and blow up,
and the time it takes for a car to crumple.
No wonder. Old Ralph Nader had a hard job convincing
people that they were a beneficial thing. Mind you. Was

(57:55):
probably the same with seat belts. People kind of thought
they were the beginning of the end or what use
could they be? What use could a seat belt be? Yeah, remarkable,
it's Marcus met good evening.

Speaker 18 (58:11):
Yeah, Hi, I'm just they brought back that guy talking
about his car with the adjusting things. That brought back memories.
I learned to drive in the Army when I was
sixteen seventeen on a Series one Land drove heavy trade
was and what we called an old Ford puddle jumper.

(58:31):
But at the same time the Army had what they
called GMC's which were left favor from the war, and
they were left hand drive American truck and they were
a huge beast. And the first time I was a
passenger in them, in one of them, an older colleague
was driving it, and the first time he changed gear,

(58:55):
I didn't click. But the second time he changed gear,
I'm thinking, what's he up to? And he was so
short and the seat, of course, that wasn't adjustable, and
he would sit right on the front of it. And
the clutch was a big, long lever to push in
for a big, big gar lever and a huge different wheel,
and he used to have to step off the seat

(59:17):
to get the clutch right and put it into gear
and jump back on the seat to drive it. Wow,
they were they were a solid truck. They really were.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
But did you did you drive one as a sixteen
year old as well?

Speaker 18 (59:34):
When I was about nineteen, I learnt sixteen seventeen, No,
it would have been eighteen. It was part of my
I W I was doing a core for learning to
be a physical training instructor and sometimes when it was
in the days of National service and you get a

(59:56):
routine of National servicemen and just to be different instead
of just running around the roads of Venham Camp, you'd
pack them into these trucks and drive from out A
towards the southern Elvis here for two or three miles,
but for the sub time, and then they all what
they called debus and then they would run back to camp.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
It's a stretch for young people to learn to drive
in the old cars that are driven on the other
side of the road or truck slide. I mean, that's
a big stretch, isn't it.

Speaker 15 (01:00:27):
Yep?

Speaker 8 (01:00:28):
It was.

Speaker 18 (01:00:29):
It took a weaven of getting used to go and
with the least shingly roads, coming back with an empty truck,
we used to get up to a bit of yeah,
a bit of sliding and skidding. They were. They were
quite unique.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Vehicles used to be your heavy truck license.

Speaker 18 (01:00:48):
No, no, I gave everything away, but I've still actually
got a car license and a motorbike license of all things.
And I'm seventy eight and the site's going. So I
sold myccount and my daughter so I could buy a
mobility scooter and one of my grandsons was brought around
their motorbike. He just put said where you want to go.

Speaker 8 (01:01:09):
For right on the bike?

Speaker 18 (01:01:10):
Grandad? I said, why don't you like the buik who
you're trying to kill me? I said, if if I
got on one of those, that would be to fall
on top of me and I'd break something.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Nice to hear from you make thank you, Hello markets, Marcus,
good evening, Hello.

Speaker 19 (01:01:28):
There you.

Speaker 8 (01:01:31):
God.

Speaker 20 (01:01:31):
I just want to talk a little bit about the
hand position on the steering rail and also a little
bit about your eggs if you want to talk about
it as well.

Speaker 13 (01:01:41):
So I worked for.

Speaker 20 (01:01:44):
A government department and for a few years following bad
guys around the block. I was working mainly sort of
around all the big cities, but also overseas as well,
and part of my job was to basically use cars
and be on foot watching these persons of interest that

(01:02:07):
were of national security interest. One of the things we
got taught, and I was overseas at the time, and
I got taught how to drive because one of the
things I had to do was to navigate, talking a radio,
follow someone essentially do multiple things at once, and steering
and driving was one of the few things that had

(01:02:29):
to be sort of nailed down so that we weren't
thinking about it. We were taught the ten to two
position for advanced driving techniques. That was.

Speaker 21 (01:02:43):
Something which was sort of.

Speaker 20 (01:02:45):
Drilled into us as a sort of a thing we
had to sort of either learn or relearn if we
weren't familiar with it, and that was just so that
we could do other things at the same time. The
ten to two essentially is so that you can stare properly.
And I don't think anyone's mentioned the reason sort of
why there is the ten to do position, or it

(01:03:07):
seems to be a debate about whether it's the quarters
of three or the ten to two, but it's essentially
so that you can use something called pool push steering,
and pool push steering is the technique which if you've
don't advance driving is to do with being able to

(01:03:29):
handle the car or the vehicle you're driving safely and effectively,
and it involves safe you're turning right to pull down
with the right hand rather than push up with the
left hand.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
If that makes sense, Yes, what's the advantage with that?
Does that give you more? Is it more exact or
more direct or more instinctive?

Speaker 20 (01:03:49):
Yes, it's a combination of things, but basically it's much
more smoother on the car and it avoids that kind
of jerking maneuver when you push up with your left
hand turning one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
So it also means that.

Speaker 20 (01:04:06):
Both hands can kind of work together and alternate. So
for example, like you're turning right, if your hands are
in the ten to two positions, the right hand can
go up to the twelve and then use the full
extent of a downward motion to pull down right down

(01:04:27):
to the sixth position, and then at that position the
left hand would take over and pull up maybe to
save that understandable.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Does that make sense, Yeah, it does make sense. And
this was this is not thirty years ago. This is
this is very recently.

Speaker 20 (01:04:46):
This was sort of maybe about ten to fifteen years ago.

Speaker 5 (01:04:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:04:51):
So, and I was taught by an overseas agency, but
we actually did the Victoria Police course, which was a
properly it was the proper course that head a proper curriculum,
if you like. And the reason for that was they

(01:05:13):
pushed us to the limit in terms of our driving ability,
often and safe places where we couldn't really stuff up.
But in order to teach that level of advanced driving
so that we got really comfortable. We had to get
this pool push steering down pat. And for a lot
of us that I was used to just having one
hand on the wheel, I needed to sort of really

(01:05:36):
concentrate for a week or two just to get this
thing down pat so that I could then move on
and progress on the course.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
And so.

Speaker 12 (01:05:45):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
This driving at speed as well.

Speaker 20 (01:05:49):
Not necessarily sometimes, but it's more to do with the
fact that you're concentrating on other things and therefore if
things come up, then you need to have a really
good sort of familiarity with the car and a familiarity
with steering so that you don't stuff up and you
don't become a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:06:10):
So it's basically just that you're dealing with other things
like radios and visually citing people and navigating and stuff
like that, which is the driving had to be really
really good.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
And what you're telling me is that sort of driving
can be taught. You can be taught to become a
driver like.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
That, right correct.

Speaker 20 (01:06:28):
Yeah, So, and now people in the same boat would
be like police savans. People that people in the police force,
who would you doing the same thing, they'd be taught
in much the same manner they would be, you know,
put through the through their paces on a driving course
in a safe environment to learn these techniques. Now, I'm

(01:06:49):
not saying that the tend to is the absolute must.
It might have changed, but that was certainly what we
were taught a few years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
And do you still use all those pulling rather pushing
just to use all that technique for your driving?

Speaker 20 (01:07:01):
Absolutely, so I still get into the car, and I
still go through my routines and and funnily enough, people
are talking about we sit in the car. We were
taught to get into the car and then adjust everything
so that we were comfortable, and that involves to the
rest of your wrists on the steering wheel so that
you're in the right position. A lot of people sit

(01:07:23):
a little bit too close to the steering wheel or
a little bit too far back, and those things can
cause particularly in an accident I think someone alluded to
it earlier, can cause a major major traum with your
body if you're involved in an accident. So the idea
is to get into the car, relax yourself, sit down,

(01:07:45):
and then just rest your rests on top of the
steering wheel, and that if you do that, and you
can do that comfortably. You're in the right place, and
you need to adjust your seat obviously if you're not.

Speaker 9 (01:07:57):
If you're if.

Speaker 20 (01:07:59):
You've got your arms outstretched and you're holding the steering wheel,
you're too.

Speaker 5 (01:08:02):
Far back and.

Speaker 20 (01:08:04):
If you you know, to get hands away in some
of the standing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Two great to talk back. I really appreciate it. Thank
you so much for coming through Diesel. How it's back
this good evening.

Speaker 15 (01:08:15):
Yeah, I'm Gray nineteen forty eight. Shed that I brought
into the States a few years ago, and I've got
a spinner on.

Speaker 8 (01:08:24):
It was takes be great.

Speaker 15 (01:08:26):
It hasn't been their car haven't got power steering, but
it really it's spinner really helps when you, you know,
get in a tight place, so you know. Yeah, and
when I sort of heard yourself, you know, because I
did hear someone said that I were being But I
had no trouble going to get in a waff every
time I got every six months with the spinner on.
So yeah, it's on the inside of the steirreing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Will So how's it work on the inside.

Speaker 15 (01:08:49):
I'll still works inside, does it okay?

Speaker 8 (01:08:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:08:52):
Yeah, I still work. I did actually have it on
the out side, and I caught my sleep several times.
I thought, I think I'm going to put it on
the inside. But way back in the in the in
the sixties, when I had a Morris miner converted, well
also had a spinner on on that way on the
stair way back.

Speaker 8 (01:09:10):
Then to you know, but yeah I didn't.

Speaker 15 (01:09:13):
They did actually ban them for a while. But but
you know, I had no trouble at present, you know,
getting the wolfs idea. So I still use it, and
it really comes in handy with no pair steering when
you get on a tight spot.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Yeah, when it catches your sleeve, does it just fling
your arm around? What does it?

Speaker 20 (01:09:29):
What?

Speaker 15 (01:09:30):
It can actually catch catch on your on your on
your cup, you know when you at you put your
your sleeves down and you get that little book. We've
been of a gaffing between the button and the sleeve yet,
but that's caught on there several times. And when that
happens that I can cause say, you know, that's fifty
to going around the corner. So I could be sort
of quite dangerous to you and I Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Do you use your truck much?

Speaker 12 (01:09:53):
Uh?

Speaker 15 (01:09:54):
This wasn't me car, but I had had a truck
and when that guy was talking now earlier about the
steering whell of that. You want to see some of
the new Macedons trucks. I've got the young I've actually
got a camera that shines down the side of the
buck and the rear vision mirror actually is on the
inside the cab, on the doorpost, on the by the windscray.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Oh it makes sense.

Speaker 15 (01:10:16):
Yeah, and that's the case. It takes a week bit
of getting used to that. Yeah, I have lived in
a truck with on my CDs like that. But yeah,
but anyway, I just thought i'd give you the knight
thoughts on the on the Spinner and yeah, that coastal
comes and had quite any.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Nice to hear from. You never knew it was called
the spinittle tonight, Marcus supercar drives on his ten to two.
When they have on board cameras, that's where their hands
are on that. That's where their hands are on the
steering wheel. Marcus listened to you from Oregon. Yes, they
were in North California camping on the coast. We left
around nine am on the beach and the temperature was
fifteen degrees In two hours were inland in the forest

(01:10:52):
and reached forty five degrees. Very difficult to do anything
of that temperature. Wow. Marcus teached ten to two and
steering when I'm Paul pushed steering to all new police
recruits at Police College currently Jerry College, Driving and struck Marcus.
I got ten to twelve, ten to two. Last year
I bought a brand new Suzuki. I got to ten

(01:11:14):
to two. And last year I bought a brand new
Suzuki car and had these annoying blobs at twelve ten
to two. My husband said it's to make you go
nine to three. I ignored him and got used to
the blobs. Loll Chez Joe, Marcus. The all Big Jersey
is trying to capture some interest using nostalgia. Rugby is
in the last throws of life. Let it die gracefully

(01:11:36):
instead of trying to roll the sport back into the
ocean like a beached whale. Ten to two, ten and two,
and justfy, I don't know if you heard that promo
for the Olympics, but look in a couple of weeks
it will be Olympics in Paris, and a Paris that
seems to be divided and torn at the moment with

(01:11:58):
the way the elections have gone. But what is interesting
for this show, this show is that we are on
air from what it's like nine in the morning till
one in the afternoon in Paris. I think that's the
way it works, So there'd be a lot of action
for sport that will be happening on the show, so
we won't be covering all of it, but you won't
miss the action by listening to this show. So I'm

(01:12:19):
kind of quite excited about that. We something to have
on the background to find at what's going on. I mean,
I'm someone that kind of kind of loves the Olympics. Well,
I go hot and cold on it, basically because we
had the ones in Brazil that were terrible, and then
we had the ones in Japan during COVID that no
one could go to. But they're fantastic, so let's hope

(01:12:42):
it goes well. I don't think the Olympics is going
to be around forever either, but I think they are
the last great sports spectacle for now, and yeah, I'm
looking forward to it. I don't know how well we'll do.
I guess I think'st a couple of weeks. We get a
lot more hype and work out what's happening and what's
not happening. But yeah, it's just you know that some

(01:13:02):
good stuff's going to happen on the show as well.
So and we'll switching at the commentary when we need to.
That's not a problem anyway, just something that I'm excited about.
It's gonna be a great It's a great time in the
middle of winter, spend your time on the couch. Well,
where do we know where the coverage? I haven't even
had that discussion yet. Sky you gotta pay for it,
do you?

Speaker 8 (01:13:24):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
I presume it's Sky you got to pay for it?
But I guess TV in Deeble had probably a one
or two hourly nightly package. But normally works pretty well,
sort of the classic hits, what's really going on, the
things you've missed. So that's the way it will works.
So you I'm into that show you that's the Olympics.
I forget what the new sports are. Some are good,

(01:13:48):
some will be daft. I think the surfing which has
been in I mean, the surfing in Japan was disappointing,
But the surfing in the Olympics is actually in Tahiti,
which is pretty amazing. It's so far away from where
the event is just because it spitter waves. So imagine
the surfers will not be at the opening parade. I

(01:14:11):
don't think we've had the annual outrage about the uniform yet,
although ours are never good. The French will be looking immaculate.
The Italians all be looking extraordinary. I don't know what
the kiwis will be wearing. I presume it'll be track
suaits hand steering wheel positions. That's pretty inting that guy
was pulling rather than pushing the steering wheel around. It's

(01:14:36):
going to take a little bit to digest for me
to work out how that works. As you pull down
one side. Could quite work out what sort of driving
he was doing. Really like top secret anyway. So that's
what we're on about driving techniques. So there you go.

(01:14:57):
Because parients not ten to two or ten and two
parients now eight and four is the best. The other thing, right,
I've discussed this and I said this. I always saw,
you know how a lot of taxi drivers used to
have those car seats that were covered in wooden beads

(01:15:17):
that would go over your car seat. Are they were
they made illegal because you don't see them anymore. I
heard that car seat covers were no longer allowed to
be fitted because you wouldn't get a warrant because they
prevented the airbags from working. Is that fact or is

(01:15:38):
that misinformation? If you know anything about that, I'd like
to hear about that, because that's what we're on about it. Also,
and also sort of things that go on you're steering
with those leather covers might be a thing of the part,
but I might have misheard that on talk back also,
So yeah, there we go. Anything else you want to
talk about? I embraced that. Let's hear from you. Oh

(01:15:58):
wa E one hundred and eighty eight nine text, get
in touch, hit ll twelve man namers, Marcus welcome. I
could throw some other random stuff at you too, but
I won't. Marcus evening, Marcus all interesting take on hand

(01:16:23):
visions when driving it. Can we please bring up an
exciting word of breakfast in particular oats A big group
of us last night we're talking about breakfast, and oats
featured so much. I'm sure listers could exchange their ideas.
Bring on the humble lights, cheers, Linally too late, Lindly,
we did it about two weeks ago we had an
entire shower on oats. Was it two weeks ago? That's

(01:16:44):
my guest, Dan, it was oat Tuesday. Dan's looking into
when it was we went huge on oats and we're
off it. Now we're on to steering wheel positions and
a spinner. But they reckon one of the crucial parts

(01:17:07):
of driving is holding your steering wheel right. I'd be
curious to talk to truck drivers. Are you nine and three,
ten and two, eight and four. I'm not telling the
time anymore. I think it's easier not to yeap. When
was it twenty sixth of Jude was Porogy notes, So

(01:17:29):
it wasn't long ago at all. It's a promise.

Speaker 14 (01:17:35):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
The other thing I read too, is this some interest.
They reckon the tie has died. No one's wearing the
necktie anymore. They reckon JFK went to the inauguration, inauguration
without a hat, that got rid of their hat. Clark

(01:17:58):
Gable got rid of the undershirt, and now they reckon
Actually don't know who got rid of the tie. Might
have been COVID DVID was the nail and the coffin
of the necktie. No one were's it anymore. I don't
think I and own a nicktie, And the last time
I would have worn a nicktie would be never. When

(01:18:20):
was the last time I wore a nicktie? It'd be
twenty years ago. So if we haven't got neckties anymore,
while we've got stupid collars, and what about that all
black jersey, because collars are daft and useless? Are they?

(01:18:41):
Oh no, they're all right. If you're working the land
and you can tune your collar up to protect the
back of your neck. That's something anyway. So I don't
if you've got anyone got interesting? Still, what are you
going to do with all your ties? Because I'll tell
you something, Unless you collect Rolex watchers, most things that

(01:19:01):
people collect end up the collection is worth less and less.
I mean, look at long lists about those model trains
or beanie babies or basically anything people collect thinking they're
going to add value to it worthless and the interesting.
There's very few things if you collect a lot of

(01:19:22):
them will go up in value. Because I think what
the Internet has done has meant that you can actually
find that there's a lot more out there than you
actually have a thought. So rarity the internet has kind
of stopped things been rare because you can always find them,
buy another one that might be of interest to you.

(01:19:42):
There's some calls their goodness Laureate's Marcus Welcome, good evening.

Speaker 22 (01:19:48):
Tyler Marcus, you didn't like the sort of choir boy
looked at the all blacks got on a store.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
I founder I found it really weird because normally an
all black juicy comes out and there's some because you
know when they you know, for a while, they put
you remember that time they put human blood in there?

Speaker 22 (01:20:04):
Remember that, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
And they've done some really dark things. But this one
there was no hype for, so I couldn't quite I
was just we're staying at friends and I was just
watching the Rugby on my phone because the kids watching
some animated movie. But did they mention what it was?

Speaker 22 (01:20:22):
Well, I supposedly it was a hack back to tradition,
and supposedly some of the all blecks that were bender
view Drick and you know, they were quite proud to
go out there with a with a collar on.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
But well, if you want to call it, you go
with a candy be juicy because they were they were
much guitar. They looked real as edidos. They looked daft.

Speaker 22 (01:20:40):
Was a surprise, Hey, those guys mentioning on the driving
position of your hands, especially with the old army trucks.
You know, it's amazing just how much force you needed,
you know, pride of power steering with those you know,
we're acually moving slowly with the big wheels. So ten
to two seemed to be the it was body when

(01:21:02):
I was taught to use.

Speaker 9 (01:21:05):
We used to.

Speaker 22 (01:21:07):
Lands and see we used to have access to army
trucks to go, you know, when we're putting up trig
beacons around the place. But the other thing driving your
hands at the teen to two if you're off road,
the other thing you had to make certain was that
your thumbs weren't on the inside.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Of the wheel.

Speaker 22 (01:21:26):
Yes, because if you go over rocks or into ruts,
the steel steering wheel could lurch, you know, around quite
violently and you can break your thumbs with the as
a wheel spun and the you know, the those spokes
that were on the inside, and then it's quite scary

(01:21:50):
and it was quite violent. You could see that you
could take your thumb out quite easily. So you got
into that habit of making certain that your thumb was
sort of you know, lying on top of the wheel.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
It makes sense, It makes perfect sense to me.

Speaker 22 (01:22:05):
Yeah, just a quick one there when you reckoned at
the old Olympic Games and Rio went they're hot. I
went over there and I had a bloody great time
and I really enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
What was weird? Does so much of it looked empty
that we saw here, as though that kind of there
had been some great ticketing scandal or something.

Speaker 22 (01:22:24):
Yeah, some weird, but others there was pretty well attended,
and certainly the football at the end of things was magnificent,
you know, when you couldn't get into that stuff. But yeah, no,
it's I mean, obviously, you know, there was a hell
of a lot of military presence around the place, but

(01:22:46):
you know, generally speaking, it was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
I think people were surprised by the lifeguards at the swimming.
When you've got the world's best swimmers and you've got lifeguards,
you think, what's going on there? Yeah, it was never
fully explained to me. Larie, thank you, Near Marcus, Hello,
good evening, you talking to never you live?

Speaker 20 (01:23:09):
I live.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Yeah, I'm not neve. I said I'm nere but I'm not.

Speaker 11 (01:23:12):
I'm not you had a bit of a chuckle when
you make these sleeping comments that nobody's water sigh. For
twenty years, we still do you know? No, you don't
a man in uniform. You not only wear a tie,
you wear your head gear and you are not actually this.
That means a cap. You cannot play the last post

(01:23:34):
in a welly and it's your in proper uniform and
that means a tie.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
Where Where's where? Who's this?

Speaker 11 (01:23:41):
What do you said?

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
I'm Nevil Stewart, Yeah, but who's Who's a uniform?

Speaker 11 (01:23:49):
Brass beards, military, Navy, air Force. They all wear uniform.
And it's a matter of discipline.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
I wonder when it will go.

Speaker 11 (01:24:00):
It shouldn't ever go, because that discipline is what makes
a fort fighting force what they should.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
That sounds ridiculous what you're saying.

Speaker 11 (01:24:09):
Maybe to you, but what you're saying is ridiculous to me.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
There we go. How many ties do you own?

Speaker 11 (01:24:20):
I don't have a lot of ties in the wardrobe,
but I have sufficient when the funerals come along.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
Okay, are you in a brass band or in a
military band?

Speaker 11 (01:24:28):
I have been a brass band since I was a
boy in ten. I'm getting a little bit pasted it. Now,
I'm seventy eight on Wednesday this week and I haven't
got the legs to do it anymore. But I have
all my life been in brass bands, particularly in symponic bends.
They generally wear bow ties. But you did touch on

(01:24:54):
something that made me laugh, and that's the all black collars.
They looked like a bunch of flying nuns and they.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
But you're the column man. I thought you'd like that,
but you know I couldn't wear you. I mean I
couldn't if it was an homage to the old Canterbury jerseys,
which that thick cotton with a rubber button and the
white collar. The collar was out there, there was too
much collar.

Speaker 11 (01:25:18):
Yeah, I'm trying to think what I wore when I
played for Haste j Old boys, and these were good
to have a collar. But a lot of the guys
that having a bit of a smile at the current
Aubrey's tears as they wouldn't I don't see if they
were in your underpitch.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
Only just one though, I mean, jeez as creepers. I mean,
if England hadn't left, what are the English chefs such
a poor kicker? They've only got some dead i'd tick
on the foot. Just Johnny Wilkinson not around. Still, there's
only some guy that can kick it from anywhere. They'll
be ruining that. Eight points out, two penalties in a conversion.

(01:25:55):
That's crazy. His name was Marcus. I thought he'd be better. Yeah,
I need for the rugg I didn't go. But you
see the crowd after a rugby match. Heah, you see
the crowd going, Wow, it's it's the older crowd in it.

(01:26:19):
Well that's good. No, No, that's the price of the
tickets or the support, not the young families pushing prams,
that's for sure. Anyway, he'll be happy with that old
razor Robinson they call them, don't they be happy? I
saw him bit in the coach's box, pacing it like
a caged cat. I thought the English did well with

(01:26:44):
two coaches. They had two. Weird about seven. Well that's
a big staff you got. There's probably too many. I
don't know if they all do something, but I thought
it looked like we're It looked like overkill. Why would
you need so many people in the box. I always
wonder what they're looking at now. The other guy was

(01:27:04):
on the cat. The other the guy in the British
box he was looking at the or the English box
he was looking at the I don't know what he
was don't know what they write down like they've got.
I know that the players have got located beacons in
their jerseys. Are they Are they getting that dart in
real time and looking at maps of where they're running
up and down the I don't know this stuff. There

(01:27:27):
should be a documentary on what happens in the coach's box.
Maybe I'll be curious a little bit. Anyway, it's good
to get the rugby back on, Oh, eight hundred eighty
Teddy and nine two nine two detext. I always enjoy
a match when there's no streakers. I suppose all the

(01:27:49):
look at me people that get tattoos, now that's what
they do, Marcus. My best driving placement is both hands
at all time, Marcus. Ten and three for me. That's
the way my right elbow can rest on the door. Marcus.
That Oat Show the Week changed my life. I soaw
coats every night now. I used to be a museleig guy.

(01:28:11):
That's from rob Wow, Marcus. I still were a necktie
and I'm in my early thirties. Standards, don't care where
you are.

Speaker 23 (01:28:23):
You know, what's the point.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Do you know what the history of the necktie is?
That's the question I'm asking you. What is the history
of a necktie? You'd be surprised. It seems like the
modern necktie really only emerged in the twentieth century, so
it's something been around one hundred and twenty years, probably
less one hundred years. That's the one on the bias,

(01:28:46):
you know, the one that we know now before that
was Cravat's Lorraine. It's Marcus good evening.

Speaker 22 (01:28:52):
Hi.

Speaker 16 (01:28:53):
I went to a senior driving course recently, and the
policeman there was saying that you shouldn't be using the
ten to to hand position on the steering wheel anymore
because the statistics are our showing that there's a lot
of hand damage from the airbags when they go offense,

(01:29:14):
so you drop your hands down a bit. And the
other thing is that, you know, those old of us
that are older, myself included, we've got a lot of
sun damage from on the top of our hands. You
get like sunspots and things, and that's because our hands
are totally exposed through the glass to the heat of

(01:29:37):
the sun and things. If you've got your hands up held.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
A couple of really good points you make.

Speaker 16 (01:29:42):
Yeah, really well, it's important because you can do nothing
about that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
So when you do as a senior learning driving, are
you have you learned bad habits? Or is the way
people change changed since when you learned?

Speaker 16 (01:29:58):
Yes, there's a lot of changes. Some of the things
that were that I found important. You should pull into
the intersection. If you're turning right on an intersection controlled
by traffic lights, you should pull into the intersection and wait,
whereas before I thought you had to stay out of

(01:30:18):
the intersection, sit back, and then make your right hand
turn when the way's clear. But they're saying no, you
need to pull into the intersection. Some more cars get around.
That was interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
It is interesting. What do you mean you start retuning? Sorry,
tell me about what you do? Do you start turning
when you say pull in?

Speaker 16 (01:30:40):
If you're turning right on an intersection that's controlled by
traffic lights, you pull into the middle of the intersection
to make your right hand turn. You sit and wait there,
so it only takes you a few seconds to get around,
whereas if you stay back behind the line. And this
is you know, some intersections have the arrow going round,

(01:31:01):
so you pull forward on the arrow. But he was
saying that you pull forward into the end section, so
it takes you less time to get round and you're
not trying to get round on red lights and things.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
Yes.

Speaker 16 (01:31:14):
Yes. And the other thing is that when you look
at a road, you know how sometimes the middle of
the road's got all these white lines just as a
diagonal across on them. You can use that to pull
forward like as an extra lane. I thought it would
have meant you just stay out of it, but no,

(01:31:35):
you can progress up a line of traffic on that
on that marked area.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
Would you do this course there? And what's this course? Lorraine?
Is this the police do this one or thet.

Speaker 16 (01:31:48):
Or yeah, they do. I'm in a I'm at Alpine
View Village and they have. They asked them to come
and do the senior driving and structure. It just it
just freshens you up on all the things that have
probably changed since you got your license, all as you ago.
And they provided lunch and it was it was just

(01:32:10):
fantastic run by a coordinator, and then a policeman came
and spent the last hour or so with us. It
was great to answer any questions and things that you
might have. It's free and it's available to everyone, so
you know you could if you have similar groups, you
can look it up and get them to come and

(01:32:33):
talk to you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
Very worthwhile they don't sit in the car with you,
do they.

Speaker 16 (01:32:37):
No, no, no, it's just done in a library or
a room where you sit around. They had a bag
of goodies for everyone that attended. It's very well organized. Sure,
I'm not sure who pays for it, but it was
so informative and they were there happy to answer any

(01:33:01):
questions that we might have about other things. And whatever
it was, it was excellent.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
What sort of good is Lorraine?

Speaker 16 (01:33:13):
Let me think what it was? I't think now like
we were. There were really nice pens and and things
like that, just just uh things that you could Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
It sounds pentello. I appreciate it. I put you on
this with everyone has a goodie bag. But when you're
senior dry, who would have thought you get pens? Interested
lovely pens. But when the last time we used a
pen like never, never, I don't even own a pen.
When you use a pin? I mean, not that dismissively, Lorraine,

(01:33:52):
but it's interested you that these are things that probably
were great gifting things, but most people pay would never
use a pen, would they, Marcus, you're talking about ties.
I used to collect them with the intention of of
making a patchwork quilt, never going to get round to it.
Do you know what a pers to clicks ties is
called a gravitologist. I adopted the eight to four handers

(01:34:16):
of a driver a couple of years ago without extra
influence to reduce hunching over the wheel and shoulder discovered
on walk work trips. I adjust the wheel height accordingly.
The wooden beads seat covers were outlawed by the fashion police,
and justifiably so's we're on about and how to hold

(01:34:39):
your hands on the wheel on the wheel, Marcus. As
a nurse, we use pins all duty off and losing
them or ending up with more pins in your pocket
than you started with. Marcus, I use a pen every

(01:35:04):
single day to write my also to write out a
shopping list. Love my pens. Call me old fresh butts
a pen every morning to do this, a Doku and
the code cracker. I couldn't live without my pen to
jot down my shopping list. I found a shopping list today.
I always pick up a shopping list. When I find it,

(01:35:26):
where is it? Hot chicken, rolls, salad, coke juice. I
thought there was a pretty basic shopping list, wasn't it.
I know what they're gonna have for dinner. Hot chicken,
rolled salad, coke juice. Sounds like a kid's shopping list,

(01:35:51):
because who'd write down salad and coke and juice? Marcus,
we need adverts for road rule updates. I'm forty four,
got my license in ninety six. I re started using
the Northern Link motor. I had to google what a
T two lane was. Marcus, your previous caller was talking

(01:36:17):
about progressing on the green light. I don't really know
what she was talking about, but I'll tell you what.
There's plenty of stupid intersection in Vicago where you can't turn.
Don't give you enough time, Marcus. The Warriors could have

(01:36:38):
beaten the All Blacks, no and all seriousness. George Ford
is the English number ten out injured. But hey, at
least we can deal with a different accent for the
week moaning about tough losses. Unlike the Warriors been ripped off,
with even the officials admitting it. Try wearing a woolen

(01:36:59):
jersey without a collar underneath it rash central where you
couldn't afford a woolen jersey these days. Oh, Marcus, she
can still get a waff with seat covers, but they
need to be airbag compliant models. I got one with

(01:37:20):
them fitted the other month. She's all good, Mike, what
about that guy that was doing that special driving, that
top secret driving. I'm sew into that. I do know
a bit about that driving. By the way, I can't
say how, Marcus. I use a pet every day to
fill in a diary time ship, most importantly to fill
in Sudoku, Mike. I just did Sidoku on the app.

(01:37:46):
It's much better. Actually, sometimes with the app, they'll do
the Sudoku for you. Marcus. Great radio chat as usual.
I a theory on the collar. I believe that, however,

(01:38:09):
design the new shirt deliberately wanted to create a floppy
white collar to match the Altrad logo. If you look
at the alt Red logo, it sort of looks like
a wingbird. The floppy white collar seems to echo this logo.
I think it could be a subliberal marketing strategy. Does
anyone out there have anything to add to my wiki theory?
Your theory is as good as anything. I think they've

(01:38:33):
used the wrong fabric. The colin needs to be stiffer
and smaller. I'd wear it up. Someone I asked earlier,
what was the first car that had power steering? I've
got an answer for you. The first car in the

(01:38:54):
world power steering is in the fifties, nineteen fifty one
Chrysler Imperial. It was called a hydridg glide or something
had a name that was homage to the fact that

(01:39:14):
it was a power steer. Don't quite know the nuts
and bolts of it, but someone will ninet fifty one
Chrysler Imperial power Steering. If a Marcus evening, welcome, don't.

Speaker 24 (01:39:36):
Here to be able to talk to you to night,
because I've only just came on not long ago, and
I heard the lady, I don't know what her name
was talking about the schools of driving and how she
was mentioning about one of the rules had been changed
where you don't have your hands on ten to two,

(01:40:00):
that you had your hands down, but down lower down.

Speaker 8 (01:40:05):
Yep.

Speaker 24 (01:40:06):
And the reason why I've actually rung is because I've
always you know, I thought it was been tender to
driving and I was very badly smashed up five years
ago with a head on collision with my grandchildren, a
great grandchildren. And maybe if I had my hands down,

(01:40:28):
maybe I wouldn't been this, you know, the serious situation.
But I wasn't supposed to live and because it was
to do my two main archeries from you know, from
the bows of the heart that was actually cut. And

(01:40:49):
I have who since my accident, that's been a lot
of people who's actually had the cushion come out and
hit them in the stomach. And that's how that's that's
cooler a lot of people. And I've actually survived a
very serious situation. I was so happy because as soon
as I turned the radio on, I heard talking about

(01:41:13):
the tender too steering and uh and so that's really
made my night to know that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:18):
So you so you reckon the tend to to saved
your life?

Speaker 24 (01:41:22):
No no, no, no, no no no. Well I got
saws mess up and I was rushing hospital and I
should have died, but I had just a great surgeon
who actually repaired me. That the thing is, if I
had my hands down, I probably wouldn't had to go
through such a serious operation.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
So if you were if you were at nine and three,
you would have been better off.

Speaker 24 (01:41:49):
Yeah, it's definitely because I mean, when when the equalstion
go out, it's you know, it's a hit your stomach
and that with all my injuries were in the stomach apart.
And yeah, and I'm just very very lucky to be alive.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
So your injuries were was by the ear bag. But
if your hands were in the different position, would have
what what would have been different? Would they stopped that?

Speaker 24 (01:42:15):
Well, I'm pretty sure if my hands were down down, lower,
and the bag would have hit probably hit my arms,
you know, my hands, you know, not so much.

Speaker 2 (01:42:24):
My heart would have deflicted some of the would have softened.

Speaker 24 (01:42:29):
Yeah, my internal one of my grandchildren. I had three
great grandchildren in the car and the one that was
seeing in the passengers seat who was asleep, and when
the bag went off on us, even he had injuries.
And yeah, and we both had very serious operations. And yeah,

(01:42:54):
we're just very very.

Speaker 2 (01:42:55):
Serial as your grandchild, all right, now, your great grandchild, Yes.

Speaker 24 (01:42:59):
He had had he had well when he went in
the hospital. He was under a series operation and down
that he's doing well. And usually head on collision, usually
you don't survive and it's on the main road, the
main highway of Talpo. Okay, and I may luckily be alive,

(01:43:25):
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:43:25):
Nice to hear from you to I'm glad we play
Made Your Night Tuesday, John A's Marcus, good evening, play Marcus.

Speaker 19 (01:43:32):
Just a quick call. The last week I saw Jordy
Barrett's introducing the new Orbalack shirt and he said that
the white collar was a throwback to the earlier days
when we used to have white collars. But he also
specifically mentioned that on the actual plane shirts, the white
collars are so and down so that they're not loose

(01:43:54):
and can't be grabbed.

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
Which makes it worse. Not really, it's trippery. It's not necessary.

Speaker 19 (01:44:04):
Well, roll shirt is isn't loose? Slippery? Yeah, say that
you haven't got a loose collar flapping up and down
or being something that can be grad that's actually swing
down around the edges to make it like a one
peach stir.

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
But if it's just for decoration, there's no point to it,
is there that would?

Speaker 14 (01:44:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (01:44:21):
Okay, well I use it's we always used to have
a white collar on years ago, all black shirts, and
that's what they.

Speaker 2 (01:44:31):
Also said that that beautiful rubber button. I mean the
Canterbury jerseys were fantastic. Yeah, absolutely, and I'm ken to
be the whole way that they were the golden days
that we had, a golden day of rugby. I just
love it. I love that rubber button. I always played
on my rugby and Canobry jerseys. That's a while ago. Now,

(01:44:51):
I love those jerseys, that soft button that you could
Donald Marcus.

Speaker 21 (01:44:58):
All right, would you have a champion? Of course, to
get rid of this term deep South in the place
that was something more like Southland superior, Southland freem or something.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
It's one of those cliches they often use on the
weather and in the deep South. I don't like it.
And some say, if the South is the deep South
and the North is the shallow North, what if we
started saying that, Oh.

Speaker 21 (01:45:22):
Well, you wouldn't be too popular. I don't exactly far North,
but apparently does exist.

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
You know, I don't mind the fin or deep South
sounds sort of lazy to me. The deep South. I mean,
it's not deep, it's just further away from Alabama. Well,
it's just now the media becomes so walking, the media
becomes so Aukland focused, they're talking about as they're there,
whereas the media should be non geographically specific. We are
the whole country. You never say down and broadcasting or up,

(01:45:49):
so to say the deep South, mind you. I also
hate when they call the snow the white stuff because
they run into things to call the snow.

Speaker 21 (01:45:56):
And the term Westis or something in Auckland.

Speaker 2 (01:45:59):
You like that, that's good?

Speaker 21 (01:46:02):
Yeah, it could possibly come from that area.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
I guess whatever I'd pick. You pick your battles.

Speaker 21 (01:46:08):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
I wish I had actually been a Westie. Yeah, so
I never called them Eastis? Do they.

Speaker 16 (01:46:15):
No?

Speaker 21 (01:46:15):
In my relations with an easts were where?

Speaker 4 (01:46:17):
Where?

Speaker 2 (01:46:18):
Where are they there in meadow Bank though? Are they?

Speaker 8 (01:46:20):
No?

Speaker 21 (01:46:21):
They're in Saint Heley's bath.

Speaker 2 (01:46:23):
Goodness, Saint helly Is Well, I guess that is east Yeah.
Did you have something to say about steering?

Speaker 14 (01:46:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (01:46:32):
Could I? I've had a severely damaged left can the
truck axe and had a door torn off an international truck.
In my handment with a door, basically, I don't have
an index finger on the other two fingers in the
middle of the hand of very's I have only about
ten or fifteen percent movements. I can't close my thumb
around a steering wheel on that side. I can't drive
certain cars where I can't steer them. It was worse
when I tried a Valiant Charge of twenty five years

(01:46:53):
ago down when I went to turn a corner, my
left hand as zoomed over half the steering wheel and
I went into a second park rather than the closest
one because it only had a two bar steering wheel
like the bars that come out from the center hub.
So if not power steering, it only two bars. A're
basically not very good for me to drive. But I've
got a Layland with a boomerang steering, will you know,

(01:47:14):
the one that you either love or hate. That's power steering,
no trouble at all. We've got a Fearmo it's got
four bars. For the rest of the lot of They've
got a Mark four Z for which has got a
three bar steering where it's got very heavy, low geared steering.
Because it's got three bars out of the spoke, I
have no trouble the hand slipping only a few inches
and then grabbing on this on the smoke coming out.
But two bar where it no power steering is not
very good for me at all. I just can't steal

(01:47:35):
them properly.

Speaker 2 (01:47:36):
Nice to hear from you, Donald. Sorry to check in
there before the news, but that's good stuff. Thank you.
I appreciate that. Back after the break, oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty, Marcus, what has annoyed me since
ninetety five is the force change to reversing into parallel
parking spaces even worse for driver takes three more attempts
to reverse it with car back when a transit van

(01:47:57):
can drive into theout holding up traffic. Mark's read a
cris A Newport and seventy eight big piece of a
car power steering? Anyone got to say on the new
news on TV three, I've gone back to one news
plus three News on plus Marcus, why do vacuum cleaners
have the option to turn them down? Do you ever

(01:48:18):
know anyone? Have you ever known anyone that wanted less
power from the machine. That's got me baffeled too, Marcus.
To increase your supply of free pins, go to open homes, Marcus.
The cheaper two little meat too lit of milk seems
watered down. It will be to be particulate. Marcus. What

(01:48:43):
number can you call to find out how many demerits
are left. I don't ever know how many demerits I'm on.
Why don't they tell us more often? How do you
know how many demerits you're on? Can someone answer me that?
Because I've often wondered about I've never done anything about that,
but I've wondered so much. Shame with demerits. Guess that's

(01:49:04):
the point, which never quite sure when they click over
and this is not going to texture, so you can
drive more recklessly now Marcus seniors would use a pen
to complete the word l after rising and he dotting
their necktie and getting their oats for breakfast. But what

(01:49:26):
about the necktie? Gone there? I invented the nineteen hundreds
of no use. I mean before then there was the
cravat from the Croatian army or something that the French
got into. Do I own a nicktie? No? If I

(01:49:52):
was having a tie, my choice of ties would firstly
be a string tie. In the seventh century, the French
recruited Croatian soul who had the cravett came from Crowet.
Then that got whizzed around into a tie. A string

(01:50:14):
tie was always fun like in the Westerns, and the
other tie was fun it was the tie that like
Colonel Sanders wears. What do you call that one? It's
like a it's like Marty Robbins would wear. I don't
know the name of it. I've always liked. It's a

(01:50:34):
jaunty kind of a tie. I've got an answer for
me for that one. Get in touch. But why would
you want to vacuum glend to suck less? I don't
know the names of ties. The creepiest tie is always
the bow tie. No one ever looks good in that.

(01:51:01):
I don't even know the point of it, Marcus. Over
the last few years, I've noticed and since made some
observations on how ah here we ex sects us alert. Wow,
this will be fun. Over the past few years, I've
noticed and since made some observations on how female drivers

(01:51:22):
grip a steering will compared to male drivers. I didn't
wonder whether the female grip was a reason for lack
of control via the steering wheel. It's not about the
hand position, It's about how the wheel is gripped. Most
males grip the steering wheel with fingers and thumb wrapped

(01:51:43):
around the wheel like you hold a can of be
a rope or carrying a length of pipe. This is hilarious.
Whereas a large number of female drivers do not wrap
the thumbs around the wheel, but rested on top of
the wheel, touching or almost touching the first finger. The
grip method doesn't have the same control of the steering
is full surround grip particular occasion for sudden steering avoiding situation.

(01:52:09):
Carry out a few observations on your local male and
female drivers. A results will be interesting. Cheers, Bob. I
think women are less likely to have an accident, so
you want to correlate that also, perhaps, Oh wait, eight
hundred eighty each Eddy, Marcus till twelve Back at you,

(01:52:30):
vacuum cleaners. How do you know how many demerits you've got?
And do women hold the steering wheel differently? God forbid?
Oh wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty Lulu plays tomorrow night,
nine pm. Watch history. Marcus. You can go to your

(01:52:56):
local police station. They will print out a list of
your demerits. Cheers, Lynn, are there two years before they
tick over, Marcus? Some older people turn down the suction
on the vacuum cleaner because they don't have the strength
to use them at full force. I thought it'd be

(01:53:19):
for using like vacuuming curtains or something. I didn't want
the whole thing up the pipe. By the way, who
is vacuuming their curtain? Marcus can call into TA to
get info on demerits. I also own about ten ties Marcus,
Bob is an idiot, or he may be joking. The

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female writer grips the world the correct one, and so
does every other female I've driven with. I'm not a
fan of bad driving and bad drabbing techniques. This said
female does pay attention to these things. A lull Marie, Yeah, Mary,
Marcus evening ye him, Mary, Hi.

Speaker 23 (01:54:00):
Look, I suppose this has already been brought up, but
I want to bring it up again. I am a
fan of filled the Englishman that's over here at the
moment around the state.

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
Fellow, good light, good lighthearted, some of a unit.

Speaker 14 (01:54:20):
Yeah, we'll really look.

Speaker 23 (01:54:21):
Forward to it. But I don't know if we didn't
even noticed that anything water or not. But most of
it's all the North Island. Does he not know that
the South Island except he has been That was one.
I think it was Queenstown or something, but no, I'm
very disappointed. It was the same the other night. All

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three about Auckland and surrounding areas creepers?

Speaker 2 (01:54:47):
How do they? Is it the only place?

Speaker 23 (01:54:50):
Bloody?

Speaker 2 (01:54:53):
Where are you?

Speaker 12 (01:54:53):
Mary?

Speaker 2 (01:54:56):
I can't care about there a warnica here?

Speaker 6 (01:55:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:55:00):
Well there's a very clever you know homes and it
means a lot of money around, as you know. But
it reminds me of when I was an Aberdeen in
two thousand and I was working in a cancer charity
shop and some customers came in and there were a
couple of them and they said, oh, you you South

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African and I said no, I'm from New Zealand and
they said, oh, we've been there. I said, oh have
you great? Yes, we've been to the North Island and
sent me you know, it's Awkland. At anyway, I'm sounding childish.

Speaker 2 (01:55:45):
No, you're not like people. You'll be saying it people
be green. They agreeing with me, of course he should
have done more South Island homes.

Speaker 23 (01:55:51):
Well, well it's some crakers, you know, But anyway i'd
like them, you know, I don't like the two of them.

Speaker 2 (01:55:58):
Well she she came across as well, old the one
that's so she looks like a barrel of fun. Want
to name Mary or something? Lisa and Louise ab b
sick enjoyable if yeah, she's good value. Yeah, all right, No,
nice to talk to you.

Speaker 7 (01:56:17):
Mary.

Speaker 2 (01:56:18):
There we go, Mary, not enough South Island homes? And
what about vacuuming your curtains? Ring mo o t waka kotahi.
They will gladly give you details immediately. Didn't that was
a thing? How come they don't know you're ringing up
for someone else? Someone's just been to acquisite with Sean
Wallace spending a lot of time down here. The old

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Chase people, aren't they? What's that about? People think of
Bob's an idiot thing and the women can't grip the
steering wheel properly. Both ties have gone. Aren't coming back? Marcus?
Why hasn't Emmadale been on TV for the last two days?

(01:57:03):
It says it's on the TV guide at don Cheapers.
Fancy there, fancy Imadel and fenty the TV guide? You
hid Tom, it's Marcus. Can you hear me?

Speaker 13 (01:57:16):
Yes, I can hear you.

Speaker 2 (01:57:18):
Praise the Lord? Thank you, Tom, Sorry about that.

Speaker 13 (01:57:20):
Welcome And Marcus, I don't know if you know this,
but on Ald Jusia this afternoon they had a shown
and America is going to have a huge heat wave
next week. Did you know that?

Speaker 2 (01:57:36):
No, I'm not surprised.

Speaker 13 (01:57:40):
One hundred and twenty degrees in Las Vegas of one
hundred and thirty degrees in death Volley, yep. And this
heat wave is going to be life threatening.

Speaker 12 (01:57:56):
Yep.

Speaker 13 (01:57:59):
I just I didn't know if you knew that.

Speaker 2 (01:58:02):
Oh, look, I'm fully aware of some of the challenges
they've gotten. A lot of the places in the States
with the heat wave, there seems to be no answers
to it.

Speaker 13 (01:58:13):
Yes, well, if people don't believe climate change mean liku,
what's happening?

Speaker 2 (01:58:21):
Well, I think people have gone from pretending it doesn't
exist to now thinking that they can cope with it,
which seems to be extraordinary arrogant.

Speaker 13 (01:58:32):
The big thing now is, and I've been following this man,
what's going to happen to Australia in the near future.

Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
I think Australia becomes a very difficult country to exist
because parts of Western Sydney, parts of Perth, it's going
to be incredibly unpleasant to live there.

Speaker 13 (01:58:57):
And also before you go in the South Island and
I can't remember where it is, but you'll probably not
when I tell you they have started killing color. Is
that how you pronounce it, Colum of the word killing?
The killing yous have? Who have got three lambs in them?

Speaker 2 (01:59:23):
Why is it both not viable?

Speaker 13 (01:59:27):
They've got no food in the South Island. This is
in the latest farm Papers.

Speaker 2 (01:59:35):
Is it like in Marlborough?

Speaker 13 (01:59:38):
Yes, that's where it is. And also the cost of
getting food in is more expensive than what the larms
are worth. And that's that's in the South Island. Some
some of the sheep farmers in a very bad way

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down there.

Speaker 2 (02:00:03):
I know Marlborough's got themselves in a droughted and which
seems to happen very often.

Speaker 13 (02:00:10):
Australia caused all this before last summer Australia cause this
they were dumping massive, massive amount of lamb in China
and it got so bad that silver Fin farms had
to take the the lines, had to take the lambs

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into Britain and Europe. And there was a big, big
stink in Britain because Britain was bringing in New Zealand
arms cheaper than the British lams. All of this has
been in the latest farm Papers.

Speaker 2 (02:00:45):
Thanks for the update, Tom, nice to hear from you.
Deborah AT's Marcus. Welcoming, good evening, Hi Debrah, Hi Marcus,
there were you?

Speaker 25 (02:00:55):
Hey, I just come from seeing Sean Wallace.

Speaker 2 (02:00:58):
Oh god, how'd you go?

Speaker 25 (02:01:00):
Oh yeah, pretty bad? But anyway, I wasn't one of
the top with He did get a black jersey from
Sam Caine the other night.

Speaker 2 (02:01:09):
I assumed he had one. Assumed he got given one.

Speaker 9 (02:01:12):
He did?

Speaker 10 (02:01:12):
Yep, that was good.

Speaker 25 (02:01:14):
But yeah, an bloody go.

Speaker 8 (02:01:16):
He is very good.

Speaker 2 (02:01:18):
Who did he support and the all black I did? Okay?

Speaker 13 (02:01:23):
Yep?

Speaker 25 (02:01:26):
And even in the soccer ETCT Brazil played England, he
supports Brazil.

Speaker 2 (02:01:30):
Stupis And was he someone that did he win the quiz?

Speaker 19 (02:01:37):
No?

Speaker 9 (02:01:37):
He did.

Speaker 25 (02:01:38):
We had a team of when we did all our
quizzes and we got eighteenth out of twenty second But
that was pretty good because none of us are quizzes.
But the top team they picked four of their players
and they got twenty one and he got nineteen.

Speaker 2 (02:01:53):
Wow. And where was this was a new Plymouth?

Speaker 15 (02:01:55):
Was it Plymouth tonight?

Speaker 2 (02:01:58):
Did you know any of the people in the winning team?

Speaker 25 (02:02:01):
So this was from there on South Charnex?

Speaker 2 (02:02:05):
So anyway, were they from North Taranaki?

Speaker 25 (02:02:09):
They are all from mostly.

Speaker 2 (02:02:13):
Oh it sounds like a good night, I Debra, nice
to hear from you. Think of that, Mike, as I
said after the debate between Biden and Trump was called
old man versus the con Man. Does that mean when
Trump wins, does Air Force one get renamed to Connea.
I think the worry, the worry for people that are
in the Biden camp is not what's his performance in

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the debate, but how quickly his condition is getting worse.
And he extrapolated that for five or six years down
the track or four years down the track will be
it'll be six months until he becomes president than the
four year term. That's almost five years. That would be

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the worry. Although he doesn't seem consumed, which is extraordinary.
You think they'd be great things at play anyway.

Speaker 1 (02:03:08):
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