Look at the parks, Darryl (11 March 2026)

Marcus talks about fuel supply (and the ever-present proposal of carless days), and also the announncement of plant closures for Heinz Watties.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Nights podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
That'd be this is me, Welcome Marcus till twelve hope
it's good for you. Are Wednesday, hump Day, oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty couple of one topic. Nights
will kind of fly a bit close to the sun
to night. We'll talk about some of the stuff that
needs to be talking about. Also to rationing, petrol rationing.
They're talking about that. I don't know how that's going
to work if you've got an essential job, but yeah,

(00:32):
that's something that they've said. I don't think that we'll
cope well with rationing. They're in the pass. During the war,
we would have got to have been into it because
it would have been the common goal. But these days
I think we've become too selfish to ration I don't
even know how that enforce it. We have to imagine
the talk back in six months time where we've got
rationing people be setting up illegal camps outside Parliament and

(00:54):
all sorts of things. But that is the talk. Some
of the talk is rationing. I don't know how feasible
that is, but there's going to be a run on guess.
I don't know how far away there is. By the way,
there is a container ship on the straight and the
of hor Mooes that is on fire. I'll be across that.
The Iranians have been laying mines too in the Straits
of Hormoes. The Strait of Hormoes is just one straight.

(01:16):
We all know twenty bits of the world's oil supply
comes through there. I'll keep you updated on that tonight too.
There'll also be lots happening locally if you want to
try your topic, if there's something that you want to
talk about, I will keep you updated with news tonight
through the next four hours. We've got a weather system
coming in from the north. We've got that cargo ship
on fire, and anything else that you do want to

(01:37):
talk about to get in touch. I don't know how
windy it is, but it could go one fifty k's
bluff oysters fifty bucks a dozen up to a new
world that's happening. It's not a good season, apparently. I
do see myself sometimes as the promotional arm. But I
think just the one boat came in today, or someone
said so, yeah, they're scratching to get them. I don't

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think it's a I don't think it's an abundant resource
at the moment. I did see a post on Facebook.
They're saying that the Bluff Festival it will go ahead
even if there's not enough oysters. Whether there will be
or not, I don't know, but they're talking about the
contingencies that there might be. That's the situation there for that.
So yeah, they're expensive because they are hard to get.

(02:23):
I forget how many bins are spoken to. An oysterman
today was talking about the number of bins that one
of the boats got, but it didn't seem as though
it was many. He was sort of with a shaking
head looks and goodness, they only got this many. So yep,
he's an oysterman, probably a fifty year so not retired
now giving it up. So anyway, so that's some of
the stuff that you might like to talk about. The

(02:43):
number is O eight and I've got to come other
topics in my back pocket so that we can chuck
into the next tonight. Just so as long as we
feel bright, tight and reel and connected to the real world.
That's my plan. By the way, I wived. I arrived
at work twenty two degrees. Dad's been a cracker of
a day. Unbelievable, Marcus. I'm not knowing listening when you finished,

(03:04):
but I did last night. What an outro? That was right.
Good to get a call back from the outro, Marcus,
very exciting day. I saw a train lots of containers
going north in Napier. No TV for two days. That
might do it. Well, that's a great thing, off, is it?
I thought that line was mothballed. You're Margaret, it's Marcus.
Welcome and good evening.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Ah, Hi, Marcus, seven't speaking to you for a while,
but nice to talk to Margaret.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Love you to talk to you.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Hey, look, I'm hoping you or somebody else can help
me about this oil thing with the straight up forms.
Everybody talks about the fact that it's twenty percent of
all production in the world.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
And it doesn't sound much. Is that what you're saying, Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
I'm going well on that means there's eighty to save
that it's not effected. So what what's going on? I
don't understand. I don't I don't quite understand. And it
sounds to me someone's making money.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
That's what I think.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Maybe someone could tell us what I think would be
an interesting Maybe a lot of the petrol that has
produced their own countries use it, like Russia might develop
their own and use it. So so even though it's
just twenty percent of the world's oil, it might be
an amount that's all bound for other countries, so it
might have more effect.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
I don't know. I mean, it's just driving me nuts
because I'm thinking, well, you know, and there is twenty
percent of the.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
World's production goes through there, so why why.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Are preaching prices are not going up by twenty percent?

Speaker 4 (04:39):
If you see what I mean.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Dan GP two, would you why it's twenty percent a
big deal? We'll see what We'll see what the computers
say about it, because I don't know, but some of
my are you prepared to Russian?

Speaker 3 (04:51):
I quite like the idea of Carlos days or something
like that that might be good for the environment.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
I'd like to bike home from work, but it would
take me two and a half hours, but I'll be
into it. Yeah, So anyway, nice start for the discussion. Richard,
it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 6 (05:07):
I have a game.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Good Richard, thank you.

Speaker 7 (05:09):
Hey.

Speaker 6 (05:11):
I'm just wondering what sort of person would spend fifty
dollars for one dozen oysters.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
They do it once a year, probably as a treat,
or they might have someone that's a sick old person.
They might think I'll buy some for them.

Speaker 6 (05:23):
Yeah, like raw seafood, it's ever really done it for me,
And I'd probably spend my fifty bucks on petrol.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
What did you say before that something seafood.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
I've never been a fan of raw seafood.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Oh yeah, well you could cook them.

Speaker 6 (05:40):
Oh yeah, probably be fish or a hot dog would
be the closest I'd get to any kind of seafood.
But yeah, I couldn't justify spending fifty dollars on a
dozen things that slide Daniel throat and then they've gone
for then I don't know a minute or something.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Sure, And I don't want I don't want to split it.
I don't want to split his with you. But yeah,
I don't think a hot would be seafood.

Speaker 6 (06:08):
It is no, Actually you're right. Maybe maybe some better scollops.
I can do some better scollops, but just like raw,
you know, obviously like people enjoy their Kenner stuff, they
eat it raw. It's just when I see people eating there,
it's a space my stomach to policy.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Have you had an oise stuff?

Speaker 7 (06:29):
No?

Speaker 6 (06:30):
But I don't think I would. I can't see the point.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
You ever seen a lot of dead sea eggs?

Speaker 6 (06:38):
No?

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Do you know what you should do? If you do,
you know what you should do if you see dead sea.

Speaker 6 (06:42):
Eggs, run the other way.

Speaker 8 (06:44):
Probably.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah. I was going to say what you could do
is you could contact the next of Kenna. Nice to
talk to you, Thank you, Sorry about the joke. Eight
hundred nine nine to detext Marcus. I came to Shang
High from your Him's day and just saying, you know
you are beaming through loud and clear good stuff. Three
ten pm here cheers? Now? Is g a on? That's
either a typo or hard to pronounced. Scar is Garron Marcus.

(07:11):
I heard that Donald Trump said the war was pretty
much over due to the Iran sort of missiles, sort
of missiles. Could we get an update? We can't get
ready to get an upright, because it's all spin. The
Republicans are desperately looking for an off ramp where they
can get out and say mission accomplished. But they're a long,
long long way away from that. They didn't expect the

(07:32):
I don't think they reckoned on the economic crisis that
would follow. Marcus Good evening, I saw a video on
social media day over in Australia, big huge container being
filled up on the back of the ute. They are
panic buying over there, bigger cars, bigger country. Any word
on whether why only twenty percent is such a big
deal then perfect Jen has emailed me. This is what

(07:54):
chet GPT is. The fact that twenty percent of the
world's oil passes through the Straight ofhor Moves is a
big deal because it's the world's most critical maritime choke point.
Here is why specific twenty percent carry so much No
realistic plan b Unlike other shipping routes, the Strait of
amusa's review alternatives the juggular vein of Asia. While the

(08:16):
US has become more energy dependent due to domestic fracking,
the world's largest growing economies are hyper dependent on this route. China, India, Japan,
and South Korea received roughly eighty percent of the oil
that passes through the Strait, and I think we saw
some of ours from there also, So I think because
South Korea is going to take all their quota, they're

(08:37):
going to take als also. So yes, it's the developing
countries and the bigger economies in the economies than near US.
An eruption doesn't just raise gas price. That can paralyze
the industrial sector of the world's manufacturing hub, leading to
a global supply chain collapse. Remember last time we had
a global supply chain collapse, Remember when they ever given
went to the side of the canal and the straits

(09:03):
just not for crude, it's also the primary expert export
for l n G. That's right, that was our plan
to get into that. A vital for heating and thirty
percent of the world's fertilizer comes through the Strait of
hor Moos, so we depended on that also. So there

(09:23):
we go. That's a that's a fairy good. Yeah, America
is self sufficient with their fuel. I think if they
just frack it, but you know, if it's cheap, they'll
just buy it elsewhere. It all depends on the price.
Good evening, Alan, this is Marcus.

Speaker 9 (09:37):
Welcome, Yeah me, Marcus. I was just listening to the
situation now about the oil in the straight of hor Moves.
I was listening to an economist, a British economist who
follow is really good and he was saying that in
the last oil crisis, you know, back in the seventies

(09:57):
were you had Carla stays that their supply was only interrupted.

Speaker 10 (10:04):
Okay, so it's.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Sort of you know, twenty percent is a big deal.

Speaker 9 (10:10):
That's a big deal. Yeah, definitely, and specially if it
goes on. I mean, there's no doubt it's going to
be a big problem from what this economist was saying.
You know.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
You know, so I can see he's in his economy shrinking.
I can see the world's economy shrinking. I can see.
I can be a bit of a catastrophist. I can
go to a bad place for things.

Speaker 9 (10:32):
Meat too, but it's hard not to. And the Lord,
you know what's going on. So you got to be realistic.
And on the other end as well, you know, I.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Think I have to be realistic from the very beginning
that Trump Trump was going to take us to a
world war. He's done exactly that, you know, none of
the bad stuff that I foresaw anyway. Yeah, So so
I don't even remember the seventies oil crisis that much,
but I know that other people.

Speaker 9 (11:01):
Yeah, I mean, my dad bought a stick through ninety
that I crashed, and he recused me on the day
and use this car. That's about all I can remember.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
But there's a lot of people were buying e bikes
and those scooters.

Speaker 9 (11:13):
Oh yeah, you're going to buy one, buy one now
because they's any same with the hybrid cars, I guess
you know they'll go through the roof. And I do
you want to buy a cheap old clunty? You know
there's going to be heags on line round now, they'll
be cheap.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
I've got a hybrid car and it's extraordinary sufficiency. But look,
I remember just when twenty twenty, when the last shock
was maybe the two thousand and weight two thousand and
eight one after the Yeah, that was that was just
I remember because I live in Bluff, which is thirty
ks from Viicago, and I remember that. Suddenly there are

(11:48):
a whole lot of v eights with for sale signs
on the side of the road.

Speaker 10 (11:53):
People that were.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Commuting couldn't afford it. And that's right, and I haven't
seen that for a long long time. So but what
are those for? What are those double cab mutes like
your Ford rat? Are they?

Speaker 11 (12:04):
Are?

Speaker 9 (12:04):
They? I spent a while. My last last highlight so
I had was like ten years ago, and it was
a diesel. I mean, that was economical, but I know
a lot of those are petrol those, so I'm not sure.
But either way, it's going to cost a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
They're a heavy vehicle to put around in the ye. Okay, Georgia,
you sound sensible. Catastrophizer the old Straits of hor Moos
twenty past eight, Pauline, this is Marcus. Welcome and good evening.

Speaker 12 (12:36):
Thank you, Marcus. Just a quick point. I was reading
a newspaper today and it said that the desalination plants
in the golf area, and I suppose the Strait of
Hormos are being disabled with bombs and missiles, and that
area is very arid and dry, and they rely on
taking the sea water and putting them through putting it

(12:58):
through desalination plants. If they haven't got the water, because
those plants have been bombed to whatever, they're not actually
going to be able to stay there, aren't they the
people who live in those golf areas. Yeah, so that
that also is apart from the oil refinery is being
bombed or whatever, they might not be able to stay

(13:19):
there for a start.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
I just thought that was interesting, really interesting.

Speaker 12 (13:23):
Okay, dear bye bye, bye.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Keep in touch if you want to twenty five past
eight eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine nine two
de text if you want to come through looking forward
to what you've got to say, But yeah, get in
touch Hittle twelve. Marcus, how much Diesel put on LPGA
are out of store domestically and what are the rules
around storage? Some says we could sell them water. There's

(13:49):
been many an idea of actually people filling tankers with water. Marcus.
The talk is the Iran Wall will soon be over.
Dream on the Americans of facing a hostile population of
ninety plus billion. Did they ever learn anything from Vietnam?

(14:10):
Vietnam Vietnam goodness? Remember to the wars of the parts
haven't gone well for them. It cost them twenty well,
it cost them. It took twenty years, and it cost
trillions and trillions of dollars and four US presidents to
replace the Taliban with the Taliban. So regime chet change

(14:34):
can be difficult. But yeah, it's not looking good for
New Zealand. Hello, John, this is Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 13 (14:41):
Yeah, Hi, market are good, Thanks John.

Speaker 14 (14:44):
Hey, look I the thing I can't understand is but
Irene playing the mines and straight there. Why can't the
US just throw the boats out of the water that'll
laying the mark.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, I don't know that. I don't know the answer
to that.

Speaker 14 (15:04):
You know, that's the main, that's the main at the moment.
You know, they've got these boats and they're laying minds
and doing all sorts of other things. So you know,
they can hit a tin camp from out of space
with the with the systems they've got. Like so if
they're going on about them laying minds and boats hitting
them and the dramas getting through, they're why not just

(15:26):
end the problem sorted out?

Speaker 2 (15:28):
I mean, they have a taxed some of the the
they have a text some of the boats. They've destroyed
sixteen vehicles.

Speaker 14 (15:36):
Yeah, but like you know, some of the boats and like,
you know, they would have known they were laying minds
and then like with all the with all they're into intelligence,
they you think they would have been onto that and
nipped that in the butt. And you know it's almost
like the Hey, unless it's that it happens on the
cause of.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
The drama, it says that they've missed a bit of
a trick there.

Speaker 15 (15:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (15:57):
Well, yeah, I just look at things from a common
sense point of view.

Speaker 9 (16:01):
More.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Now you're you're a common sense list.

Speaker 14 (16:03):
Well, I'm just a well I think I'm just a
normal human being that just looks at things like thanks. Well,
you know you've got a problem there, and you know,
you go to the United States and you can, like
I said, you can knock a paper cola came out
of somebody's head from out of space, so I'm sure
you can.

Speaker 6 (16:19):
So.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
I imagine once the minds are in the water, then
it becomes free, very difficult to get rid of them
all because then it's picture, it's petsy kind of explosive
written water.

Speaker 14 (16:27):
Yeah, but stop it before it happens, you know, you
know it's happening, Like get in there and just yeah,
if you're hitting the boats that are laying them, they're
going to be in two minds and when they go
up to lay the damn things in the first place,
they'll be thinking health.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Well, you wouldn't want to be in an Iranian mind
mind layer, would you, because it'd be a fairly short,
short term job.

Speaker 9 (16:47):
It would be there.

Speaker 14 (16:48):
It's just yeah, it's just a whole there's a lot
of there's a lot of behind the scenes stuff that
you know, you've got to sort of look at the
big picture sometimes, and you know, different country set up
things for different reasons. America is probably one of them.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
So you think it might be a false flag.

Speaker 14 (17:04):
Not a false flag. But you know they know what's happening,
like you know, they're not stupid, like you know you're
talking about you know.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Donald Trump is well with Trump. You know, the generals
might have said this is going to happen, this is
going to happen. He says, I don't care, let's do it. So,
I mean often that's what happens. He was like that
on The Apprentice. He thinks that he has that he
has that he's a naturally gifted decision making, which is
always a worry when there's nothing really to back that up.

(17:33):
Robbie Marcus welcome.

Speaker 16 (17:36):
Yes, I can't understand what's happening on in those straits.
Apparently they've knocked out all their air force and shipping
and everything else. So the straits aren't all that white,
So why don't they just clean up what's going on?

Speaker 12 (17:56):
What?

Speaker 16 (17:56):
What are they worried about them firing at the ships
in the strait. Surely with all the gear that they've
got they can clear that area of anything income and
let the ships run through.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Well, they mustn't be able to.

Speaker 16 (18:10):
Well, there's something wrong somewhere. They say the war's over.
If defeated all of their stuff. They've got my missiles
left hardly. So I just can't understand that there's something
there's something crooked here. It doesn't smell right.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Or maybe the war's not over. Maybe it's just beginning.
Maybe this is the opening salvo, because it doesn't look
like it's got any less complicated as it's gone on.
That'd be mine. I'm the military strategist, I'm even forgot
at risk. But the straits of her moves is there

(18:44):
is the great option they made it it was a
nuclear and nuclear weapon, but there's the great technic is
it's the straight of her moves. Great strategic lever controls
that geography and it gives them incredible geopolitical power. It's
definitely it's Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 17 (19:03):
It is good evening, Marcus. I think it was last
night someone thrown in said the Iranians got stucks, and
the hosts checked it out, and there's I think there's
about twenty subs they got which are mine laying capable. Wow,
it's not necessarily ships that are laying these mines. They

(19:25):
got the subs doing it.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Wow.

Speaker 17 (19:29):
Yeah, which was quite quite used to the host as
well as the listeners, except for the one that kicks
didn't take on multiple stups.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
So yeah, it's not over where would I mean, you
would surely bomb this summarine base, wouldn't you. Well, I guess,
I guess they're probably not in the base. They're probably
out and about.

Speaker 17 (19:56):
Yeah, the hosts found out that they are hard to detect,
and they're sort of not They're small in comparison to
what the States have gotten some of the other ones
that are going out through the big oceans in that

(20:16):
and the Iranians ones there for the closer in short stuff.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
How many they got.

Speaker 17 (20:28):
I think he said about tweaks.

Speaker 14 (20:36):
Goodness, Yeah, there was.

Speaker 17 (20:39):
A surprise that most of the listeners that they had
so many.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, yeah, I can imagine. Oh, that's a great bit
of it. That's a great bit of information, Like we've
no one's ever talked about the submarines bye bye. What
else have they got?

Speaker 17 (20:59):
I don't know what else they've got, but yeah, that
one comes up.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
And yet they've got twenty three, twenty three, Dear class
midget submarines. He got some Russian They got some Russian
stock as well. Yeah, it only takes one to take
a tanker out of the sea when it's good to

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go again, and that kind of sets everything back.

Speaker 17 (21:26):
It does. Then then it makes it weary for the
shipping because they know something's there, but they don't know
where it is.

Speaker 7 (21:38):
Useless bit of information.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Find that really interesting. It's definitely nice to hear from you.
Twenty seven to nine, d tod E. Get in touch, Marcus.
Anyone who can not bring themselves to eat raw kind
of try kinnefrit as delicious, best frit as. Ever, if
they blow ships up in the Strait, it will block

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the straight That's like after the sewers crisis. Remember that
was blocked for a long time. But in back to
day it's costing the Americans. So yes, they say it's over,
but it's complicated. Get in touch, Marcus. Till twelve o
eight and eighty eight, Peter, it's Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 9 (22:20):
Good the evening where we don't know what Trump's objective is.
It used to be a regime change, and the other
economies are like new Zealand And, Asia and Europe are
not having enough diesel fuel all fuel in a couple
of months time or less. It's going to be interesting.
I would have thought the government was said, we might

(22:41):
have a fuel emergency. Can you get on your bike
or can they share with other people and start planning ahead.
They haven't done any of that.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
They are having a Huey tomorrow. I think to work
out what to do.

Speaker 9 (22:54):
Hm, well, I think the thing to do is be
friends with Russia games so we can buy some We
got fifteen percent of their fuel from them before they
went into Ukraine, so I think, you know, Russia and China,
they are pretty big places as far as well China

(23:17):
is for supply chains and what we need and what
we export. Of course, Russia as far as their energy
that they have, that's quite incredible. But Russia is not
able to fill the gap that's going to be missing.
They're talking, you know, considerable barrels a day that has
been taken out simply by stopping and tank is not moving.

(23:41):
So this is going to be about twenty five percent
of the world's fuel supply taken out, if you like,
and that's very, very, very significant for the economies and
eura Iran is just simply doing that because people haven't
really taken them seriously because they don't like to be

(24:03):
attacked by America and Israel. At the same time, New
Zealand hasn't condemned America or Israel's attack. The thing is
that China, they're not going to get any fuel out,
even if they're friendly with a run, because there won't
be any to get out when all these things stopped.
So it's that in China kind of got two hundred

(24:25):
and twenty days or something, So that's going to affect,
you know, the world. And of course America has plenty
of fuel really, but the price is going to go up.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
And it's very expensive to freck. I imagine then when
it just pulls out of the ground, the production, yes,
but they'll be bringing it on tap tip tip tip.

Speaker 9 (24:44):
Yes, so New Zealand really, I spoke to Tesla and
they said they had a shipment arrived two weeks ago
which they've sold. They're not getting another shipment til about
May June. And then you know, you wonder.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Is that why you spoke to Tesla, is because you're
interested or pushing the market for old Tesso.

Speaker 9 (25:04):
Well, I already have one.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Oh you got to get a backup Tesla.

Speaker 9 (25:09):
But I was just sort of trying to understand what
the market. Then the local ev the second hand market
one guys and the papers has sales meant up by
fifty percent in the last week. So you know, there
are electric vehicles out there, but it's not going to.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
I'm not getting the texts from the battery haters I
normally get. They normally kick on a bit about now
oh yeah, no, good with the yeah people. Maybe it's
the answer. Well, I did see that video of that
electric car going off the bridge to see that man
twenty two away from nine get in touch, zen if
it's Marcus, welcome, good.

Speaker 15 (25:44):
Evening, you, good evening, man house going.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, good zener, force yourself you're not mate, Just.

Speaker 15 (25:51):
I'm hurdling down on State Highway one, eating into orphan
with a.

Speaker 13 (25:55):
Load of freight on go out.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Thank you for your Zenith, Thank you for your service
by the way to trucking and bringing all our goods
to market. You well, don't you?

Speaker 15 (26:05):
Oh thanks man? You know we move the country and
we all do while when every bugger's.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Asleep exactly honestly, and it's hard to sleep, and you've
got light coming through the curtains, and you know, we know.

Speaker 9 (26:16):
What you do.

Speaker 15 (26:19):
I'm just a little concerned at our lack of foresight
in regards to the next hundred years. Are we gonna
sit around as a country and moan and wins because
our fuel or our raw materials seem to come from
halfway around the planet. Why aren't we planning on boosting
our own infrastructure by looking for the things that we

(26:42):
need around our own country.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
I don't think there is any I don't think there
is any foresight.

Speaker 15 (26:50):
That's what I'm saying. Well, you know, our poor doctors
and nurses are under all all on a strain for
it with our healthcare, our emergency services are the same.
They're unroll a lot of pressure because it's just not
the money or the people to go into those jobs.
Our infrastructure is lacking. I just don't get why we

(27:12):
need to rely on someone half around, half way around
the world, and we should be looking for these things
within our own four walls. And someone needs to be
planning this so that our children and grandchildren aren't asking
themselves the same questions as what we're a tell.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, I mean we see woefully ill prepared.

Speaker 18 (27:38):
Yeah, and I think probably fuel power dependencies are pretty
basic one, and it's not and it's not like when
the fuel crisis comes and there's rationing that we've got
a really good public transport system to rely on, because
that's pretty bad.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
We haven't got the trains for the freight. We're relying
on diesel and you in the tracks, so.

Speaker 15 (28:05):
Do you We've got to say shitty or row a
line with it. For the last yep fifty sixty seventy years.
Why aren't we updating these things so that when these
things happened, we can go, ah, we got ahead. We're
not We're not going to be a victim of this.
What he was going on around the world.

Speaker 7 (28:24):
I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Not to talk Zennough Brent it to Marcus, welcome, you.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
Know mate, how are you good?

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Thank you?

Speaker 10 (28:32):
Bent.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
I'm doing the same thing. I'm a delivery driver in
Napier for Delivery Easy And but what I want to
or sort of put to people, I don't have that
sent But I said, I was watching this video on
Facebook and it looked like a supreme leader of Iran
and he was saying that they're not doing what. They've

(28:57):
been planning this for twenty three years to do this
to America. And their strategy is not to use military
forces or you know, bombings and things like that. It's
to kill the economy.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah, I can understand that.

Speaker 9 (29:14):
And because.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Because the economy, the world economy seems to be vulnerable,
there's all sorts of choke points exactly.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
But yeah, like he was sitting back in his chair,
he looked like that guy that'd been assassinated. But I
mean they all look the same, don't they.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Well yeah, I mean they all grow their hair long,
and they've got the beds, haven't they.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
So in that year is exactly like that. I don't
know if anyone else is seen it on Facebook, but
I was watching the video and he said, we have
been planning this for twenty three years to do this
to the USA, and it's he said, it's not about
using military forces or bombs and things like that. We know,

(29:54):
we've studied the Americans and how they do things, and yeah,
it's all about we want to take their economy out
and take their petrol, you know everything.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
And you can imagine how Trump, with a success in Venezuela,
was itching to do Iran and probably some of the
advisors said well, this is what's going to happen, so
are you whatever and pushes on the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
And I was thinking about it. I was thinking, well, yeah,
that makes sense because that's what's happening. Trump's you know,
wasting a lot of money doing bombings and things like that.
And yeah, I mean your petrol's going up. Other things
are going to go up, you know, So yeah, it
really makes sense. I don't know if the videos AI
or if it's you know, what's.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
The videos of the new leader doing what?

Speaker 4 (30:42):
Oh he was just sitting back in his chair and
he just you know, he just basically said that we've
been planning this for the United States for twenty three years.
It's not about doing military force. It's about killing their economy.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
It's a long game.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
And it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Nice to talk, Prent. Thank you.

Speaker 9 (31:06):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Is it to many people call you brink crude?

Speaker 19 (31:10):
No?

Speaker 4 (31:10):
Oh? Yeah, no, I loved it that I've seen that.
My name was like come to do oil too.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, I should have. Can you put that on his name? Dan,
Dan and Brackett Because I missed missed a little trick.
There would have been probably that was my time. That
was my moment to shine, to call him brink crude,
and I missed it. Flip, oh well, fourteen to nine.
That's the other thing of ever, some sort of battle
with ships being destroyed by missiles and then the ships sink.

(31:40):
It could be all sorts of you know, it's mind
as well. They could almost make the straight of hormos
impassable and that'd be disaster. I mean, it's happened it
That happened in the sewer, isn't it. They got full
of ships and stuff. You'll know more about that cerem
million barrel today can come through.

Speaker 8 (31:57):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Anyway, that's the some of the discussions for tonight, and
I've enjoyed the discussion muchly. I think it's been very
level headed and people keen for information, and that's good.
A cilical person might be of the opinion Trump said
he might run for a third term. It didn't take
Trump kidnaped Venezuela's present. That didn't work Trump as they

(32:19):
were tacked around. That's going badly. And still the Epstein
scandal won't go away. Save petrol work from home. That'll
be the thing too. But you know, last time people
had to cry or the government had to get people
back into work. Oh, Marcus, I think I'll buy a
horse and a small buggy shops not too far away
and have lots of grass to feed it. Thank you

(32:39):
for that. Get in touch if you want to talk
Marcus till twelve and the Strait of Hormuz, be in touch.
Someone says Marcus Calor. I'd understand why they shut down
Marsden Point fuel processing plant. You have to ask the
shareholders of Channel Infrastructure. They were the ones that voted

(33:00):
to close that down. The shareholder vote. Been using money
for years though, that was their decision. But like what's
happened with Hines. You think you'd make money a hummus.
It's everywhere. I didn't know Hines made hummus. Yeah, the
instant coffee and hummers and the tin foods. Three and
fifty jobs gone. It seems like we're making nothing. A

(33:21):
part of milk powder. That's it. Eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty and nine two nine to detect. If you
want to talk about the Straits of Hormuz and what
else is happening, I don't even know what you want
to say about that. But it's ten days and eleven
days on this war, and things have got more and
more complicated each day. Now we're talking fuel rationing. I

(33:44):
don't know how many supplies of oil we've got in
New Zealand. Wouldn't want to be flying anywhere in a hurry.
Fifty to sixty days of total fuel supplied petrol, diesel
and jet fuel combined. So it happens, it will happen
quite quickly. So this could be something we're talking about
until or three weeks about whether they start the slow

(34:05):
drip feed. Oh, sorry, this is just breaking. I haven't
read this, Sorry, Dan, did you? There was a faery
on fire coming into the Wolf of downtown Auckland, passengers
on board and thick smoke. Do we know what ferry
it was?

Speaker 18 (34:18):
Dan?

Speaker 2 (34:20):
All the passengers have been accounted for. The cause of
the fire was a high pressure, high pressure diesel hose leak. Wow,
it doesn't rain it pause seven to nine, So a
ship's been hitting the straights off moves. No one said,
who's done that? That's on fire, but the crew are safe.
Malcolm Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 8 (34:39):
And am Artus. No, you've just been speaking about hones
wy and that there was issues.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
And fifty people laid off.

Speaker 8 (34:49):
No, it's more than that.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
I've been watching this, Malcolm, Malcolm, sorry, that's the news
we're dealing with today. Is that layoff for three and
fifty people.

Speaker 8 (34:59):
I will give you an idea. I've been watching this
for three months and I haven't bought a Home's Watty
product and never will again. It's the same people. If
you crack it back, I think who bought and destroyed
the quality of cap.

Speaker 10 (35:18):
Of what?

Speaker 20 (35:19):
Sorry, and it's the same if you work it back,
it's the same people behind the scenes who have bought.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
I think it's I think it's Warren Buffett ultimately, isn't it?

Speaker 8 (35:35):
Well it could be, but anyway, tell long story shot.
I've got a friend who has been supplying for fifty
years features to Haines Watty and I knew this three
months ago. They went out and said we don't need
you anymore. It's cheaper for us to buy offshore. So

(35:59):
I've been watching it and there it's not just three
hundred and fifty people in New Zealand. These are growers
who supplied Hinds water for fifty years plus and they've
been cut off. I will never ever buy a Watters

(36:22):
Hinds or even a PAMs or War's own brand, because
that's who we're supplying it. I'll buy from legitimate overseas
customer rather than that. What and this is just the start.
I mean you imagine supplying a company for fifty years

(36:42):
as a family business and you're riffing out one hundred
acres of peach trees and that is multiplied by probably twenty.
They just want it.

Speaker 9 (36:56):
It's cheaper for.

Speaker 8 (36:57):
Them to buy offshore and use the brand.

Speaker 20 (37:02):
Are there, Marcus, do you have this thing?

Speaker 9 (37:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (37:05):
And they have the frontry for the last.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Six I love that worthy effrontery.

Speaker 8 (37:10):
Oh yeah, they put on their cans crafted and packed
in Hawkesby. No, that obviously will have to change, But
I would ask consumers, you're better to buy SPC or
doll who might be all received, but a legitimate does

(37:31):
to talk.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
About back after the news here to twelve, it's been
an endurable and informative discussion. We're talking about the main
laying of minds and the straits of her moves. That
seems to be the big intentional story. That's the big
development of the conflict. The war hard one to resolve.
Price of cruds up I'll brink crude and being touched.
Hell on, it's Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 21 (37:53):
Yeah, Hi, I'm thinking about these trees and crops are
being ripped out by what he's deserting their growers, and
I'm wondering if this might be a bit simp plastic,
But I'm just worrying if it's possible. If they're trying
to get a new supermarket chain up and running, they're
going to have to get their products from somewhere, and

(38:15):
if the growers were all tied up places like Watties,
they wouldn't have that. But this could actually create an
opportunity in the market for a new supermarket chain to
take up the slack. I know that has to be
some tiding over, but I'm just wanted if that was a.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Possibility, he should have a big budget. If you had to
get your own growers and your own cannons involved, there,
wouldn't you. Yeah, But you know, I think Hawks Bay
is all about apples. Now, that's the miracle crop, exporting
of apples. It's a good thing the apple exports are
going well, but you know, the wine's gone now, the
fruit's gone.

Speaker 21 (38:50):
Yes, it's dreadful, thank you.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah, Okay, got a short and sharp Helen. Thank you
Hines and what was Watties and also talk about the
straits of hor moves. If you've got some wisdom about that,
you'd be nice to hear from you. But they talk
about ration I don't know what they're saying about rationing.
I don't even know how it would work because I
don't trust Kiwis to handle rationing. I think we're are

(39:16):
I don't think we cope as well as we once did.
I don't think we'd cope with I don't think we'd
cope with rationing. I don't think we'd do it feely.
I don't think there is that sense that we're all
going to come together to help out. I think people
would think I'm going to stuck stockpile, I'm going to
buy different cars or I don't even know how rationing
would work because you got one person with one car,
and you got one person with six cars. A person

(39:36):
with a six carriacter disadvantage because they can just ferry
the fuel for one car around. That would be my take.
I don't have faith in rationing. Be in touch. If
you want to hurdle twelve name as Marcus Good evening. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty current caller Malcolm my hero,
what is setting up destroying our growers? Use them for

(39:57):
years now, thrown them to the wolves. Can you imagine
the cost and assets they have in machinery disgrace? There
is us I only ever bought Tin's Hawk's baitin fruit
hope we all support tallies US didn't growing Wow, cheapest creepers.
What about No one's mentioned the black doris plums. Don't
think it would be a good idea if the government

(40:18):
major or what he started in business producing food, particularly
with the world and crisis. If we aren't careful, there
will be a food crisis. As importans like to be
slow and getting here. Be in touch if you want
you My name is Marcus. Welcome. Eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty, Good evening, Tony, This is Marcus Welcomes. You're
not going all right, good, Tony, real good, real.

Speaker 11 (40:38):
Good, excellent. I'm just on the what's happening in Iran
and that what hasn't been getting spoken about Israel and
like they're getting pretty ham a day, and that's not
being really put out there.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, there's been a fever of talk about that that
I've noticed. We're upset. But I think that what people
are talking about now is the laying of minds, and
that changes everything technically because ships can't get through then
and once the mines are there, So however, it's a
how of a fuss getting them out?

Speaker 11 (41:10):
Oh for sure, mate, for sure. So what do you
reckon is going to happen there?

Speaker 8 (41:13):
I don't know, You don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
I could have putted any of this.

Speaker 15 (41:16):
No.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
I always realized it was going to send fuel up,
and they seemed to minimize people's concerns on them. But
the global market seem to be reflecting that that the
world in trouble without fuel.

Speaker 11 (41:28):
And it's going to be on for a while.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Did you hear the news. I was out watering the plants,
but they did. They say something in the news. They're
talking about ground troops. Do you check me that story through?

Speaker 13 (41:41):
Dan?

Speaker 11 (41:42):
You will hope they don't do that because they're going
to get They're going to lose them. I mean, Orion's
a big country.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
It's a mountainous. It's as big as I Run and
Iraq put together. It's as big as Iraq and Afghanistan
put together.

Speaker 10 (41:54):
And it's hilly exactly.

Speaker 11 (41:56):
Yeah, you know that'll lose your soldiers. I believe it's
just my opinion.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
I just have a look at the story that there
was talk of ground troops in that news I heard
Nina just read on the on the on the hour,
so I look into that also.

Speaker 11 (42:10):
Yeah, a couple of days ago they reckon, they.

Speaker 22 (42:12):
Lost a few.

Speaker 11 (42:16):
Were captured special forces, but with a lot less true.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
I think we would have heard, but I guess they
probably would. I guess that's where you would We'll probably not.
I guess that's where you would chuck. You would chuck
special Force at Tehran. Wouldn't you want to get them
in there?

Speaker 11 (42:32):
If it did, would we hear about it? Or that's
would be just covered up by mister Trump.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Well, hopefully there would be reporters there. It says that,
It says that news bullet at nine, it says the
White House is reportedly weighing up sending ground troops into
Iran to secure it's enriched uranium. Because I guess you
don't want to. I don't I don't. I guess you
don't want to. That to form the hands of even
more dodgy groups because they could make dirty bombs and

(43:00):
all sorts of stuff if you've got you know, if
someone is selling old dodgy uranium on ally Barber or
what was that dark web? What was that dark what
was that web? You could sell all sorts of sketchy stuff.
What was that called? Remember that?

Speaker 6 (43:13):
No?

Speaker 11 (43:14):
No, I don't know. I don't know that sort of stuff.
As far as the dodgy stuff and the bad boys
and Iran goes. You know the guy that assassinated the
whatever his name is, yes, yeah, Well apparently for twenty
years he was against Iran heaven a nuclear weapon. So
why would you assassinate someone like that?

Speaker 2 (43:37):
I can't I can't answer that. I can't answer.

Speaker 11 (43:39):
I know you, I realized, but that's just a question.
Put it to you, to you, to your listeners, mate,
because it's the fact he was against the Iron having
the bomb.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
So I haven't followed that closely. But if you say so,
I'll take that. Silk Road was the website of thinking
about that's gone, But that's the sort of place you'd sell.
Do the uranium, I don't even know if it was.
I don't even know what do the uranium is? I
guess it's right, uranium that's radioactive, Marcus, what his time
is up? Telly's needs to step up ed more to
its government must put tariffs on foreign source keened and

(44:10):
frozen veggies. Brent crude dropped to ninety in the last
twenty four went to the Supermarke days. Notice lots of
people panic buying. You seen that. I haven't seen that.
I look at the live price of brent crude because
it might have gone up again since they started mining
the straits of hermusy. It's up again, maybe that just

(44:31):
text me it's jumped. So it was up on the seventh,
then down down, down, down down, and it's it's gone
up from eight to eighty eight to ninety today in
the last well this morning, I guess up two point yeah,
going up as I'm looking at it. So yep, so
cerday hasn't come down much since the conflicts started. Beack

(44:52):
at your people if you want to talk fifteen past nine. Well,
the other thing is a different topic, and it's the
topic is thanks Mary is not replacing the theme tune.
God help me, Marcus. I'm so loving a show and

(45:14):
you say I'm sised with us. I've got a great idea.
Let's retard you in of her rush and her song
and replaced with something New Zealand Kiwi. I know you
must love some mutton birds. Dave Dobbins, Herbs, Stan Walker. No,
they wouldn't be there. We near my favorite New Zealand songs.
But oh what I was going to I'm not going
to do that now. What I want to talk about
quickly as well as all of this. In the UK,

(45:36):
the Kingdom that's united, they are giving up on having
people on their banknotes. These to have Shakespeare and Winston
Churchill and Jane Austen. They're giving up that for animals.
I've never thought. I always thought it was essential to
have people on our notes, particularly for quizzes. So why

(45:56):
don't we do that, have animals Because at the moment
we've got ed Hillary, Kate Shepherd, Sir r Paranata and
Lord Rutherford Old Ruddy. Why don't we change those to animals.
I mean, there's are animals therevill Is, just go, let's
just put birds on each of our money. They have
them as the main thing the hoyhul Has anyone got

(46:18):
any takers for that? I think the birds are already there,
but just make more of a feature of that just
a thought. If you want a pine about that, I'm
up for it. It's interesting that Brits are given up
on people, though I always thought it was quite a
good history lesson to learn from your money. Who was who?
Eighteen past nine and the Straits of hor Moos and
Mines Marcus Iranas mining their waterway. As they rely heavily

(46:42):
on shipping imports, there are no ports to the east
or north. On fuel revisit Carl stays from the seventies Marg's.
With a fuel price up, it may slow the boy
races down or limit the amount of times a week
they go out. Ground troops were talked about for the uranium.
Maybe the ground troops are already there. I just don't get.
I just don't get the sense that this is the

(47:04):
most well thought out military endeavor. You talk to anyone
in business, and talk to anyone in warfare, and it's
all about planning and sticking to the plan and then
the communication of that plan. But no one really knows
what that plan is. Johnny texts on fedy emails. My
father lives and works in Tamworth, Australia. Most gas stations

(47:27):
have run of petrol. They are now implementing a twenty
dollars limit on fuel. People are getting desperate and thefts
have started. He here, it start after too many stockpiled
large amounts. And maybe it's different there with people were
already needing petrol kind of in those remote areas. I
could imagine them stockpiling. That might be what happened. I'd

(47:50):
like to see some more stories about that. I haven't
actually seen many reports of the fuel shortage in the Australia,
but it was happening in Tamworth. You can get fine too,
apparently if they are caught dangerously transporting Jerry care ends.
A Toyota was pictured with twenty Jerry cans attached to

(48:10):
the roof. Says petrol is the new toilet paper. Someone
said it's a serious extent waiting to happen, And apparently
transporting more than two fifty leaders of fuel and a
space clicked to the passenger compartment could be illegal, and
transporting more than five hundred leaders at a time could
also lend you in trouble. Four and a half thousand
and final twenty two thousand for corporation. The primary danger

(48:32):
of hoarding fuel is that petrol stations may run out
generally without hoarding. This is not an issue, and petrol
stations have more than enough capacity to meet the needs
of the community. So it's happening all across the country.
The end times are upon us, and Australias have responded
the only way they know how by clearing up every
single jerry can from Bunnings. There you go two dollars

(48:53):
a liter up from a dollar sixty five. It was
a month ago. I don't know if the term gerry
can is offensive, but I don't know what the other
term is. It's dated. It's an interesting derivation of that.
This might be wrong. I think the jury can refers

(49:14):
to the Germans. We're called Jery's because of their helmet,
which looked like a chamber pot. Now is that true.
I don't know if that's true or not. I'll do
some more googling. Twenty two past nine, just looking at
the map. What the Iranians needed to do earlier was
to propose some sort of canal from the Caspian Sea
to the Black Sea, and that was proposed the Erasure Canal.

(49:37):
It'd be a game change, seven hundred k's four times
bigger than the Seuiz but it makes sense, and that
could be better for all sorts of things. But yeah,
what a pinch point you've got now with the Persian Gulf.
Seems to be a design fold all round. Now, that's
kind of what we are discussing. And land sea mines.
Guessally if their land mines their sea mines, I guess

(49:59):
that's the version. Keep you update if you've got any
comment too. Also with Hines or Watties three fifty redundants,
these christ Church Hastings, dned and Dunedin is the Greg's
coffee wasn't where it was still made there, But that's happening.
Haven't got any latest news for you, just a lot

(50:22):
of graphics about the Straits of Hormuz. But yeah, if
you look at the infrastructure around this in Kuwait and
Bahrain and Qatar and United Arab Emirates in Oman, I
mean that's where all the oil is happening, That's where
all the refineries are. They're all there, They're all around
the gulf. Very difficult to circumvent too, because all these

(50:44):
refineries are on the coast twenty one miles at its
narrowest point. So yep, that's the focus. And Iran has
weaponized its geography, hundreds of tankers have come to a
halt and any vessel using the trade route has been
threatened to be set ablaze. Pretty fascinating. Now that's something
you want to talk about, also as who you want

(51:04):
on the money too? On the money Marcus Watties hasn't
recovered from the COVID shutdowns in long came cycling Gabriel
and destroyed of the crops photos attached to our fruit
destined for what he's heading out to see after Gabriel.
What an amazing shot that was? They are I think
they're apples, but what an amazing image that is, just

(51:27):
five meters of the boom of the road just covered
in them. Unbelievable text email thank you for that went off?
What is long ago? I'm a McCain's man now who
can drink twenty five liters of diesel? Jerry can have
a great night, Marcus. The word of warning to those
buying of bulk and storing at home. Check your insurance policy.

(51:50):
Over fifty letters probably require certain conditions. If you have
a file, you may have no insurance. Mark's with Ossie
Guys stock playing petrol. I can't be the one getting mad.
Max vibes here right, It's all over. Guess wasn't it
In the last of the via to decept is what
great movies? Marcus. People from should be careful storing bolt
fuel for insurance purposes. Class is hazardous, so rules around

(52:14):
how it should be stored. Marcus. The what is press
release referens to refers to frozen food, not canned food.
Please correct your impassion listeners still undeserving of computer support?
Black Ball? What he support local growers? Marcus? With the
price of minting new currency in the likelihood of King Charles'
third's reign been somewhat short, the change to animals makes

(52:35):
economic sense, Marcus. What most overlook when stating we must
support local business I e. Watt is aka Hines. Heines
is an overseas conglomerate that is happy to shut down
growers likelihood by producing canned fruit by third world production,
even if the government puts in dollars to keep what
he's growing and employment. This is only temporary. In the end,

(52:55):
hind will walk result the same but delayed.

Speaker 8 (53:00):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Was mad Max a prophecy? Have you seen Chelsea daniels
interview with Bernd Hacki Bunner was pointing out the past
ships Comington to New Zealand with fuel have been diverted
because the supplier had been offered a higher price. It's
a very real possibility this will happen again, and we
don't have any fuel arriving. Wonder if Luxon and Willis

(53:23):
have got a plan for when this happens. We could
put a cow on the notes. It's a great idea,
a Freezian. There's a shortage of bread. Shells are empty.

Speaker 23 (53:34):
Do we know why?

Speaker 2 (53:34):
It's been quite sketchy the bread By the way, if
you want something more local to get outraged about. In Australia,
McDonald's have stopped serving straws and seen introducing specially designed
lids that allow customers to sip directly from the cup. Yeah,
I had no idea about that. I was actually at McDonald's.

(53:55):
Is actually the world's southernmost McDonald's today and Owl's Road. Yeah,
I didn't know it was the world's southernmost. I spent
so much time on my phone looking where the ones
were in Chile and they're not as south as that one.
I thought they should make more of a song and
dance about it. But yeah, very good.

Speaker 13 (54:13):
It was too.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
I don't et anything. Hey, I don't know if they
gave straws or not. The kids didn't have a drink,
I don't think, But you know straws, I haven't seen
the thing you can drink out of. Meanwhile, that that
idiot that runs McDonald's cheapest creepers. He can't be long
for that job, ken, He with his micro bite. He's
such a fit. Look, he's such an anti McDonald's looking guy.

(54:37):
He he's such a solad guy. You can see that,
which is fine. But if you're the sonad guy, don't
start running McDonald's. They want a hearty looking unit running
that that looks like he enjoys the food, not some
ecdom orph Marcus. If we can't get fuel out of Singapore,
and can get fuel out of the West Coast the
United States of America, we'll just have to reblend at
once at Lands in New Zealand. Lines free. If you

(54:57):
want to get involved with the discussion tonight we had
talking about the strait of her moves. I always thought
it was the straits of her moves, but it's not it'
and people on notes and anything else. It's in your
wheelhouse tonight. See some lines. They're free and be in
touch if you want to add to the discussion. Yes, Oh,

(55:21):
by the way, I thought Dad Sae was this weekend.
It's a couple of weeks away. I had a bit
of a micropanic. Nine years since the BBC Dad interviewed
on BBC about North Korea. He was the guy with
the children in the background. Well worth watching. Just google
BBC Dad. It's hilarious, absolutely hilarious. He has given an update.
The Herald do a story of it every year. Next

(55:42):
year will be huge. I guess he's still a North
Korea expert. Got six billion views a day. It was
the first thing that went viral, really and nothing's kind
of gone quite as viral. He took to X this
week to mark nine years. Many people still tell us

(56:04):
how much they enjoyed the video. How nice we get
to be grateful for your kind words about our family.
Marion is now thirteen and James's nine. James was James
was the one and the one. James was the one.
It looks like a lovely kid to he was the
one of the walker lively. Yeah, it's funny. It is

(56:25):
such a great video. Some social media users said they
were stunned to realize the clip predated the COVID lockdowns. Yeah,
it wasn't the work from home eraor it was just
where he was one of the greatest moments in TV.
Every Beautiful Family, Another commenter said, very funny. Some commenters
suggested the family should recreate the viral plover for its
tenth anniversary next year. They should have turned it into

(56:49):
a gift and made money from it. Hey lines for
if you want to be our partake people, someone wants
cows on the money. Friesian cattle, Angus, brilliant Perindale, Marcus
Griggs and Sarah Boss are the watties lines in Dunedin.
To be fair, Sarah Boss is a bit of a dad,
isn't it.

Speaker 24 (57:08):
What do they do?

Speaker 2 (57:10):
They do kind of cordial, don't they. I don't think
Cerebis is a good brand, but yeah, I don't want
to disparage them as people have lost their job. But
I don't purn a candle for Sarah Bos. It's pantry condiments.
Surely condiments wouldn't been them. Oh that chow chow, Well
love that chow chow. Actually I changed my mind. I'd

(57:30):
go to woolf for that chow chow, chunky, tangy and
little spicy. Oh no, we can't get rid of that.
They do the salt too, the classic salt with a
kid running to pour salt on the chicken, which is
a weird. They've always thought that was a weird thing,
but that's Sarah bos. I don't know where the salt
miners in Dunedin, probably out the tire way twenty four

(57:50):
away from ten if you want to partake ah twenty
away from ten Onne of us Marcus, Good evening and welcome.
By the way, Lebanon is calling for peace talks and
denounces his bar as. They'll be saying that because they're
getting bombed from the south and I'm looking forward to
you all calls. It all seems to be about mine
delivery systems, submarines, boats, and probably you could deliver mines

(58:14):
from drones. But it just shows what an effect of
warfare tool mines are. I don't know the history of mines,
but I'm slightly interested in that now, because of course
the sea mines were laid around New Zealand when they
sunk the Niagara or the gold On. That's never been found, well,
most of it's been found but some of it hasn't.
But yes, mine and mine's sweepers. It's a big part

(58:36):
of maritime history, isn't it. So Yeah, I don't quite
know where that fits into the whole thing. I guess
you call them naval mines, don't you, although no one's
been calling them those. And of course two, I am
very fond of the mine at Morco in the North
Canterbury or South king Country, an amazing one that's painted yellow,

(58:59):
that was found. I think that washed up in the sea.
I think that's where it came from. Yeah, washed a
short at the head. It's there. Always get a photo
there on my way to Womad wash you sure, nineteen
forty two. I don't know how they diffused it. For
the interesting thing to do? Get in touch seventeen away
from ten o'clock with you till midnight. That My name
is Marcus, Good evening Marcus. The entomology of the term

(59:23):
straight for an arrowc comes from the Latin word structure,
meaning to draw light. Good on you for saying straight,
not straights. Yeah, I got it wrong to begin with.
I was gkilled of saying this wrong. When I was
based in Gibraltar, I used to incorrectly say Straight's not
straight of Gibraltar moved your good text to move. They're

(59:44):
a good text, the straight of hor moves. I don't
know why we want to pluralize that, like daylight savings. Hi, Darrel,
it's Marcus good evening, Yeah, Marcus.

Speaker 7 (59:54):
Hey, look, I'm just having just a conversation to bring up.
You know, the government goes on about these high high
fuel usage vehicles and all that sort of stuff. So
I run two at the moment. One of them is
a Mazra Exala. Now I can bring up on the
computer and tells me I'm running six point seven leaders
per one hundred kilometers average. Now it's a hybrid vehicles.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 6 (01:00:19):
Yeah, ye're right.

Speaker 7 (01:00:21):
But I also have a hold in Colorado. Now it's
not the full wheel drive model.

Speaker 13 (01:00:25):
It's not.

Speaker 7 (01:00:25):
It hasn't got all the bells and whistles and all
that sort of stuff. It's just a holding Colorado wagon
still considered to be a large cast sort of thing,
you know. But I averaged six point two leaders per
one hundred k's of diesel. So you know, like they
go on about a lot of these vehicles and they

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want to you know, like maybe maybe it could be
an extra tax that they're going to put on this
just all from buying. Well they're talking about stopping people
from buying these bigger vehicles, but at the.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Same time so that the Tories the nets are saying this.

Speaker 7 (01:01:02):
Yeah, well there was something that came up the other day.
They were talking about the you know, about all the
bigger vehicles that they've been running. But you know, like
at the same time, not all these larger four wheel
drive model.

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
Vehicles are.

Speaker 7 (01:01:21):
They're running those high mileage case you know, they are
running those high mileage diesel usages.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Do you think you bought a Dad darryl.

Speaker 17 (01:01:31):
Oh Absolutely not, no, no longer.

Speaker 7 (01:01:33):
But I'm play is that minus is not using a
lot of fuel considering some of the some of the others.
But you know, when you do carrying all the poor
drive kit and all the gear, the amount of fuel
that they are using.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Yeah, they're bad. At the supermarket car parks.

Speaker 9 (01:01:55):
I wouldn't say that you're in one.

Speaker 7 (01:02:00):
That's right. No, there's no issues with them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
I mean not if you're in one. But the parks
are too narrow.

Speaker 17 (01:02:07):
Ah, they're not that much white.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Really, well, look at the parks Daryl Denial. Oh wait,
one hundred and eighty said he. By the way, to
residents of around fung Ara Airport have made one hundred
and nineteen formal complaints since the rescue helicopter moved to
Honorahi in July. People love hate rescue helicopters, don't they.
They love them keeping them save, They hate the noise
they make. Anyway that's happening, That might be something you

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want to mention and get in touch if you want
to be involved with the show sixteen from ten and
the straits off the moves straight. Sorry neat to hear
from you if you want to talk about that. Thanks
for the pronunciation essence. People be in touch. Hit till
twelve fourteen from ten Keven ats Marcus, Good evening.

Speaker 25 (01:02:50):
And welcome Hi Marcus.

Speaker 22 (01:02:54):
There's animals on the bent notes. Yeah, well I'm serving
recent put the various stages of the white life cycle
on them notes ha ha to scale in their habitat. Wow,
it'll be it'll be an economic It will make all

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the clever economists sit up and it'll be a boom
for our economy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Well what will people notice, Well.

Speaker 22 (01:03:24):
The size of them and how fast they grow and
where they live and who eats them?

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
You're white beata.

Speaker 22 (01:03:30):
Nah, but they start out like a spet and then
they increase in size like one hundred fold when you're
a white bait. How come back?

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
And then over how long?

Speaker 22 (01:03:44):
Oh, probably nine months or a year? You know they
had they had at sea for a while, but the
sinners who else eats them? Like all the other fish
that eat them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
I'd like to see one on the on the money.

Speaker 22 (01:03:55):
Yeah, it'll be It'll be a massive boost for the fisheries.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Yeah, it'd be great. Do you think people would stop
eating them?

Speaker 5 (01:04:02):
Well?

Speaker 22 (01:04:02):
No, some guy up north has devised a way to
grow them in a ten No.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
I think that's.

Speaker 22 (01:04:10):
It would be nice of you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
I don't know what I know. Down a bluff at
the ocean beats, they had a big white bait factory
called Monarchy, I think it was called. And I see
that it's closed down. I don't think they could get it.
I don't think they could get it to work. So
maybe the farming hasn't happened. No, no, they have.

Speaker 22 (01:04:31):
It's just it's quite a bit of chemistry to get
it from one stage to the next stage. But if
you just released all the eggs then in itself would
be that would just be a big boost for the fisheries.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Okay, I'm liking that. I just think that. Yeah, okay, yeah, Brian,
this is Marcus welcome.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Hey, thanks Marcus.

Speaker 9 (01:04:52):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Brian?

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
First time calling mate. But I did want seenior a
picture many years ago. Took a photo of the sign
entering Bluff and Queensland and the railway counted a big
big picture of a train on it after off the
rail so he was a big fan of it. So
I sent that to you. I just looked it up
and they'd being sent it. But yeah, so I just

(01:05:15):
was catching up on some of the previous shows this
week because I'm in Australia so sometimes I can't the
times are out and through the discussion on nicious oxide,
no one seemed to have answered that question for you,
and I can answer it if you like.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Oh what actual question there, Bronc.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
I'm excited about that, whether it's used with the Midward
three and delibery suits and dentists.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah, go on, I'll be interested
to hear about that.

Speaker 26 (01:05:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
So I was Paramedica New Zealand in Auckland and over
here in Queensland and they're retired. But for many years
we used nicos oxide as a pain release and it
was named antinox, so in a big blue cylinder, same
size and the same look it as an oxygen cylinder.
So yes use widely in birthing suites. Dentists still use

(01:06:12):
it for pain relief. It's still offered here. I noticed
my dentist office it. Ambulance services went away from it
because it's it's not as good for you in the
long term breathing in it all the time, and probably
other things too. It's easier to track other worn narcotics
and stuff from people abusing it, but definitely in delivery

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suite and they give and.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
They give the husband a ton as well.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Or is that that's what I wanted to clarify that
that's a there's no way they would risk risk their
their licens. But when my wife gave birth to my son,
well I pretty much delivered in rock Emp and there
was lack of staff and the antonox.

Speaker 17 (01:06:57):
Was there for her to use.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
And because they're not in the room most of the time,
because it's so busy, they'll just be helping themselves. That's
what I would have got on.

Speaker 13 (01:07:06):
I thought it was unlikely.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
Because yeah, it would be there for her if she
needs it. Oh here, ye have a gay So yeah,
very unlikely. I mean very you know as a medical
fish is no way we'd do that, you know, to
abuse it or or a lot midwife's doing that as well.

Speaker 13 (01:07:24):
So but yes, it's still is.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
It is used as a pain relief in some settings
and say a lot of mining industry first aid rooms
where they don't have the skills, yes, to administer other analgesics.
And definitely, like I said my dentist, I noticed when
I was looking at the cost of some stuff and

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they had on there as an option. Is not just
sock side when you get the fifty fifty for when
you get the bell, Yeah, when you get the bill. Yeah,
if you if you're want. It's for people who are
needing needle phobias. Yeah, sure, and that's so they cannot
opt for it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Tell me something we're about to you in Queensland now.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
I'm now in North Brisbane. Definitely definitely no fuel shortages
in the city. Yeah, the prices have gone up, but
I'm definitely seen on the news tonight of South Australia
with Petro station signed up Digel from med Services only
because it's what it is is the smaller family aimed

(01:08:30):
stations aren't getting the bowl corders because they are giving
it to all the big ones, you know, they're their
own mobile ones or whatever. They're not getting a small ones.
But with the stockpiling, that's just yeah, that's just stupid
and ludicrous. And what I what I f am. I
drove down the gold Coase of work yesterday on one

(01:08:52):
hundred and ten kilometer our highway and these guys are
still doing one hundred and twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Yeah, I live with there, Brian, are going to run.
But thank you so much for that call. I appreciate that.
It was good. INTEL always like to get someone that
rings from the potty. Seven to From the podcast seven
to ten, someone said, Lowell, no Colorado is near six
letters per HUNDI absolutely dreaming. Another Texas says, find that
hard to believe. I had five. Colorado's best they ever

(01:09:17):
got was nine k's per liter. How can Iran lay
minds if the Navy's been destroyed according to Trump more
bull that's from Allen Well. I guess it's submarines and
I guess it's drones, and I guess they haven't got
them all all the navy. Well, there's not much tree cover.

(01:09:37):
Is there being touched? Marcus till midnight if you want
to be till twelve o'clock, I'm on, Oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty anything different you want to mention,
we're talking about the Straights of Horne Mooz. By the way,
the FIFA president says Trump has assured him that Iran
can safely attend the World Cup in the United States,

(01:09:58):
So that's good. This is Infantino. He's talked to Trump
and was assured that Iran can come to the US
for the World Cup. They're scheduled to play in Englanwood, California,
against New Zealand on June fifteen, Belgium June twenty one,
and Egypt June twenty six. Last week, President Trumps, I
don't really care if Iran takes part in the forty

(01:10:20):
eight nation tournament.

Speaker 9 (01:10:21):
So he's.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Pivoted and they can go. No surprise is there. Talk
to you after the news if you want to be
on air talking about minds, and I don't know how
big those minds are. In the Strait of Hormos. I
don't know if they're big as the bigger one that's
outside Morco, but you might knows some more about that. Welcome,
good evening and welcome hit or twelve o'clock. All the
lines are free. The big development in Iranan the situation

(01:10:47):
that they now are laying mines on the straits, on
the Strait of her MOUs. So things becoming a bit
more complicated.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
Don't they.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
And there's now talk that some of the deliveries of
oil coming to New Zealand might be going to other places.
I don't know if you've read those stores, but it's
probably a good time to talk about fuel rationing. How
would you like that to work? I don't know what
the fair way is to do it, because I don't
think that we are a united country that would do
well with rationing be logistically for every difficul wouldn't it.

(01:11:24):
Someone said, there's two NH ninety helicopters thundering over Upper Hut,
Thank you for that. Someone said the Hooties of Yemen
are laying mines in the Gulf of Adn below the
Red Sea. And support for Iran because if you're on
the coast, it's not the difficult to layer if you
know where the currents are going. But get in touch,
you onto it. There's anything else tonight too, it's your

(01:11:46):
show and the lines are free. They are available if
you want to come through. But also discussing developments in
the Middle East eight hundred eighty eight. Get in touch
to be nice to hear from you. Anything else you
want to mention good, remember you can remember. It's okay.
There is a cargo ship that was attacked also on

(01:12:07):
the Strait of hor Moos, Yes, and I think the
crew are safe. No one quite knows what's gon on there,
but that's also happened. So that's some of the news
that's happened tonight. Mainly. If there's any other news, I'll
bring that to you people. Yeah, if you want to
talk on air. That's kind of what we're about tonight.
People discussing the likelihood of this war ending soon. No

(01:12:30):
one seems that confident about that, actually know what the
states of things are in America. But yeah, that's kind
of the plan tonight. That what we are talking about.
Eight hundred eighty and nine two to Texas. The other news,
Oh wonder how those sailors are still on the interil
and furry that's been stuck off Nelson for months before

(01:12:51):
they take it to the wreckers. It's not a good
story that one and UIs has promised the heaviest day
of bombing on Iran's Hisskeith with the brill cream and
that's caused the fuel prices for the stock marks stock
markets to rise. Trump said, will end seek to end

(01:13:13):
the conflict soon, because it's all your depends on your
definition of end. Good evening, Bruces is Marcus, Welcome in, Marcus.

Speaker 9 (01:13:23):
I talked to the other night about telephone exchanges. I
now want to talk to you about the fuel crisis
we might be heading into. Thank you now. Having a
livestock industry for fifty years and I'm in the king Country.
We can't call and land from here to Hawk's Bay,

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and Hawk's Bay stock comes back to be killed. That
universe will be packs are tickled to me as it
shouldn't mean. But why after the war all the stock
was called the merest meat plants and now it goes
all over the place. So that's where we're wasting a
whole lot of fuel.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Why is it what they know?

Speaker 14 (01:14:08):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
Why do they do that.

Speaker 9 (01:14:10):
Well, it's free enterprise, that's why they do it, I know.
But it makes up in the king Country. And after
the war all the lambs had to go to Whitra
in New Plymouth that was the nearest works, which that
makes sense, doesn't It kill your stock at the nearest works.
But now it goes all over the place and the

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only ones that are making any money out of the carriers.
But in the meantime they're burning are it. Well, it's
all important fuel that they're running all these trucks up
and down the road.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Are they still doing are they still doing? Are they
still doing lambs doing it?

Speaker 9 (01:14:47):
They're still doing it?

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
No, you listen to me. Are they still doing lambs
at No?

Speaker 9 (01:14:52):
Not at w that's owned by Ansko, And I tell
what they do there there. They make all the McDonald's
meat paddies there, so the meat, the meat is actually
carted in there. They don't Whitter's shut. They have got
to work at Alsham and have silver fir and farms,
have got to work and works in Harbor after. I've

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got works in Mlay, you know. But the stock still
goes all over the place.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
It's crazy.

Speaker 9 (01:15:21):
You're with me, And of course that's what happens. And
the only ones that are making any money out of
it the carrying industry. The truck is all. That's my
two bobs worth anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Nice to hear from you, Bruce.

Speaker 9 (01:15:33):
Good on you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
By the way, there has been an earthquake in Australia,
a four point five which is quite big for Australia,
Central New South Wales and Burrahwa. Looks like it's south
of Sydney and inland, not far from Canberra. More to follow.
This has just happened. This is breaking news. So an
earthquake has hit Sydney. This has come through. I feel

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it's been happened about half an hour ago, but I
look for comformation there. Keith, this is Marcus. Good evening,
good evening, good evening, all good.

Speaker 10 (01:16:14):
Yeah, how are you going?

Speaker 8 (01:16:15):
All right?

Speaker 18 (01:16:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:16:16):
Not bad?

Speaker 26 (01:16:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:16:18):
Hey, I'm just a couple of observations about this fuel price.
Then if you can cast your mind back to two
thousand and eight or thereabouts, and the price got to
two dollars twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
What was that about? I can't remember that.

Speaker 10 (01:16:32):
Well, well, I don't know, but.

Speaker 19 (01:16:37):
Two twenty and the other day I was paying to
forty five or something. Why is there an expectation that
the price of fuel won't ever move and if it does,
over a period of now fifteen years, it's gone up
like thirty cents, right, so per annum too, It's just

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seems silly. And the other other observation is laying down
on the roads. They want to go on about the
price of fuel, but nobody's slowing down. I remember carless
days and you know, save ten and August and everybody
slowed down to eighty k's type thing. You know, nobody's
even bothering to slow down.

Speaker 9 (01:17:19):
So they're not really.

Speaker 19 (01:17:21):
Trying to economize for themselves, are they. They just want
to keep progressing at a rate of knots and go
like a bat out of hell and not make any
effort to save any petrol.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
I missed the number of what you see. Are you
what was the point of what you see that you're
saying that that fuels quite cheap.

Speaker 19 (01:17:39):
Well, in fifteen years it's moved like twenty five cents.
So is there an expectation that everything else can go
up but not petrol? It just seems quite bizarre.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
I don't think it's the price we're worried about. I
think it's the supply. I think if they run out
and rash it, that's going to get really tricky.

Speaker 19 (01:18:01):
Well, why does everybody rush to the pumps when there's
a fifty cent price rise because they want to save money?
But they'll rush to the pump and they'll go back
on the road and they'll still drive at one hundred
and ten on the open road.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
What speed.

Speaker 19 (01:18:15):
So they're not flowing down?

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
You've got to love to say, Keith, what speed should
they be driving?

Speaker 19 (01:18:20):
Well, if they want to save money, they should be
driving a bit slower, shouldn't they? And trying to economize?

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
What's the optimum speed?

Speaker 13 (01:18:28):
Why do you have to do one hundred?

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
I don't know, because that's people. I mean, do you
say people?

Speaker 9 (01:18:34):
People stuck?

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
Any way, Hang on, Keith, what's the optimum speed for
fuel economy?

Speaker 19 (01:18:40):
Well, I've got a Toyota Corolla. If I do ninety,
I get seven point one leads per hundred K. If
I do one hundred and five klongs an hour, I
get eight point one.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
It sounds like I said, guy, Keith, why are you're
gone for a battery car?

Speaker 19 (01:18:58):
Well, because of the footprinters to create the car in
the first place. Is bigger than what it saves in
fifty thousand dollars or forty thousand dollars from an electric car.
That's about, oh god knows how many kilometers you're going
to get out of a petrol car before you've even
covered your costs and you've already got a car.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
Do you believe that about the fut frint to make
the car.

Speaker 19 (01:19:19):
The Litian battery and aubun mining that goes in to
get the batteries and everything else.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
Do you believe that?

Speaker 19 (01:19:24):
Hell, yes, yes, yes I do absolutely. But aside from this,
people aren't slowing down, are they. They're not worried, really
really worried about the cost of living, otherwise they start economizing.
And yeah, so anyway, that's just like walk, just just
a couple of observations.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Okay, I know if he's right. I'm sure he's not
right about the footprint of the car. But it's kind
of a top gie t upe thing, isn't it. Anyway?
Get in touch if you want to talk and share.
It's Marcus.

Speaker 13 (01:20:02):
Good evening, Marcus, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
Good, Thank you.

Speaker 23 (01:20:05):
Sean.

Speaker 13 (01:20:06):
Yeah, that you said why did oil cost so much
back in two thousand and eight, and that was because
of the hur Okay Katrina. It trashed the US oil
fields in two thousand and five, and the world was
going really well economy wise, so there's just a lot

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of demand for it, and that's why it went up then.
But I used to work up in the Golf I
did quite a bit of time up there in eighties
and nineties and early two thousands, and yeah, that's an
interesting place. It's kind of odd how something just as
primitive as a old shipping mine has just brought things

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to a grinding hult.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Because the most simple technology, isn't it.

Speaker 9 (01:20:57):
Yeah, And.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
They'd be very easy to make. I don't know what
it's cost of the Iranians to make a mind, but
what is it? It's just a floating metal shell.

Speaker 13 (01:21:05):
With Oh there's all kinds now, they're quite exotic. You know,
you can drop them and they sit there and listen,
and then they'll release and you know they'll activate. There's
all kinds of things happening. I mean, you can before
we know, they've got drone mines. I mean, you know,
you've doubled something down there and then it hears an
acoustic signature and then it homes it on it and

(01:21:28):
goes that's what it's going to do. But yeah, they're right.
It's they're easy to drop and they're very hard to
get out. We had a few floating around back in
the eighties. But and then you've got a lot of
unexploded audiance around in the eighties up there and there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
Then you've got to look at world shipping and how
vulnerable that is to a text from drones because ships,
you know, you can't across the Atlantic, across the Pacific,
you can't escort ships the whole way. They're revulnerable to
a tax.

Speaker 13 (01:21:57):
Yeah, and then I started to think about it and
I thought, you know what, most of the world doesn't
and we get by without Iranian oil. But they're two
big ones, and the last time I checked, they were about, oh,
I don't know, eleven forty million barrels a day, but
they could go up. But Saudi and Russia are the
two biggest producers of oil, and one we can't use

(01:22:21):
this stuff, and the other one we can't. The stuff
can't get to us. So it's actually going to be
a big deal with Saudi not being able to move product.
And you've got the humorates as well. They're quite big
so yeah, it's probably a bigger deal than I thought.
I wonder if Old Trump, they're mister the brightest man
in the world ever actually thought of that one. The

(01:22:43):
military obviously did, but I don't know how they dropped
that one so badly.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Dropped it really badly. Yeah, I think with freaking now,
I think the United States is the biggest producer of oil.

Speaker 13 (01:22:56):
No, they're not. Nope, they only just started. In fact,
previous allowed them to start exporting it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
No, I'm talking about production. Number one in the world
is the United States.

Speaker 13 (01:23:11):
Yeah, yeah, and May.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
Number number two is number two with Saudi Rabe. Number
three is Russia. Number four is Canada. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:23:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:23:19):
But the thing is, with fracking, you can go and
get a six pack of bothers and be online in
about three or four months. You know, you just go
and start cracking up there in Wyoming or in the Irons,
the shale sands and things. But that takes a little
while to set up, and that stuff has. The thing
about refineries and oil is that certain refineries can only

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take certain kinds of oil, and they can't chop and
change very easily. So everything that's set up to handle
Saudi or Kuwaiti or Katari crew can only take that stuff.
You can't actually substitute it very easily. So even if
you say, oh, America is going to start fracking, well,
they've still got to get it in trucks to the

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coast because it's all inland, way in land. So that's
not really an option for the rest of world. It's
okay for America, but everywhere else.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
And what I'm saying, America is sitting pretty they're not
dependent on other seas oil because they've led the world
and production of fuel for the last six years.

Speaker 13 (01:24:17):
Yeah, yeah, no, they have, and they're fine. But you
can't just find new oil and then start pushing it
through another country's refinery. The Singapore refineries can only take
certain kinds of oil, and they won't. They can't take
anything else without actually pulling the whole refinery to bits
and redoing it. So no, it's not a quick facts.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
What were you doing?

Speaker 13 (01:24:42):
I was a diver. I was doing salvage and recovery.
We're doing connections.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
Connection and the Persian Gulf.

Speaker 9 (01:24:50):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:24:51):
We worked for the Iranians, we worked for the Saudis,
we worked for the Mraades. Well, we worked for everyone there.
I believe we worked for the US Navy.

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
If they blew out, I don't know what happened in
the sew is when the sewers canal got filled with ships.
But if they blow up a couple of ships, they
would block the it'd be pretty easy. It'd be pretty
difficult to get divers with well with guest torches down
there to chop it up straight.

Speaker 13 (01:25:18):
Forward, is it? No, you just go right over the top.
Like the Persian Gulf, the water depth gets to a
maximum of about ninety meters. But whatever went down anywhere there,
you'd soon locate it and just drive around it. That
wouldn't be a big deal. You wouldn't actually try and
close the gulf by sinking a tanker. Okay, it's eighty

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or ninety meters deep, but it's still about twenty kilometers
wide around them.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
But the shipping canals quite narrow.

Speaker 13 (01:25:48):
No, it's not that, are you talking the sewers canal.
You're talking the straits of Horn moves straight to.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
The straight of Horn moos. I was just looking at
that early before I came on air. That the shipping channels, quitte,
I mean it's twenty one k or twenty one miles wide,
but the actual navigable area is quite narrow.

Speaker 13 (01:26:07):
Yeah. Yeah, but even if you had a few ships
sunk in there that wouldn't stop anything for too long
that that wouldn't be the issue.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
Ship the shipping lane is two miles wide.

Speaker 13 (01:26:18):
Yeah, that's what they use now. But believe me, if
they needed to find a way through, they would. But yeah,
the mines could be anywhere. That's the real issue.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
Nice to talk, thank you, Sean. Twenty three past ten.
A couple of stories. There's a miniature cockle case at
University of Otago, powerball wasn't struck, a christ Church person
got seven and stuff website are reporting that multiple ships

(01:26:48):
have been hit by an unknown pre projectile and straight
of hor moves there of three have been hit in
the last few hours. The third vessel at Tanker was
hit by an unknown projectile ninety two k's north wind
of Dubai, so it's a shipping war now. Iran has

(01:27:12):
not claimed the attacks and there's a lot of discussion
and explainers which I find fascinating about the importance of
the Strait of hor moos yep a full or near
full closure lasting a month of Moere would push crude
prices well into triple digits. It's a bending waterway. It's
important for trade back in the days of ivory and silk.

(01:27:36):
So it's been effectively but not officially closed, yep, because
the ship is the global shipers aren't going through today's strikes.
Of those ones brave enough to go through, that won't
fill them with confidence. Anyone been through the Straight of Hormos,
You're only going through it if you're not going it's
not like connected to the Mediterranean or anything. You're only

(01:27:57):
going through there if you're on an oil ship. I
would suspect have I been there? Let me have a
look at the map again. Actually, where was I was?

Speaker 13 (01:28:05):
I see.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
No eyes up on the other one, the Red Sea.
Different thing? Oh I hang on, No I was on
the Red Sea. Hang on, Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's.

Speaker 25 (01:28:18):
Where I was.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
Yes, you've got Saudi Arabia between the Red Sea and
the Persian Gulf and a man and Yemen at the bottom.
And I said about Yemen can't really put minds into
the Persian Golf because their whole country away there or
the Gulf of Aden Aiden Aiden. So that's a situation

(01:28:41):
if you want to talk about that or anything else. Oh,
by way, you got breaking news out. If any thing's
happening locally, it would be good to hear from you.
How are things in your neck of the wood. There's
something you want to say locally that's happening for you.
Be in touch. There is that situation in Carpety Coast

(01:29:02):
or the police and the course. I don't know if
that's resolved itself yet. I haven't heard about that since
about seven o'clock, So if you've got one for me,
it says more to come, but I haven't heard more
about that. Someone says there are little mines on small
fishing boats that can attach the sides of ships. The
Revolutionary Guards have taken them over Marcus. I'm pretty sure

(01:29:24):
the open road speed was cut back by twenty k's
during Carlo's days? Is that true? Do you know about that?
That's of interest. And apparently the r and DLF number
three Squadron are doing a joint exercise in Belmont Regional
Park which involves those helicopters. People are reparding. Boy, she's

(01:29:44):
hot down south and oh well, by the way, I
meant to mention that earlier, so sorry about that. There
was very strong winds predict for the north of the
North End. Have they happened? I knew there were some
local news I had to keep an eye on tonight.
If you've got an update about the strong winds, well,
I'm seeing their reports. Maybe that has deescalated, maybe it's
changed direction. But if you've got into anything about that,

(01:30:06):
I know it was forecast. Can't say anything currently that
people are reporting. So there's that, So it seems that
that's fine people. Sheer market's up one and a half
percent in New Zealand. Don't know why that to indicate
her off. Don't know what the gold price is doing.
I still going to look into that instead of look

(01:30:28):
at the gold price for you. Gold price, gold price,
Oh yeah, seven days. It's up a bit today, quite
a bit, which is normally a worry ceter a rocky
road recently mainly up though, oh eight hundred. You know
the rest mark is till twelve. Hit me, just don't

(01:30:48):
let me just play. I'm going to go turn the
econ on because it's hot as heck here and it's
become unpleasant. Back at your people. Twenty six minutes to eleven,
and I'm with you, right through till midnight. There's no
surprises there. That's what I do every single night, apart
from one time I went home early when the trampoline
at the side of the house. Tim Beveridge will be
along at twelve tonight. So here we are, here we go.

(01:31:13):
We are talking about the situation in Iran. Iran has
launched the most intense operation since the start of the war.
So the Iran Iran Republican something Guard strikes have been
aimed at targets in Israel and US assets in the region.

(01:31:35):
That's happening as we are talking. But there's also the
major focuses on shipping. In the straight up WOMU. Someone
has texted through they think Christopher Luxen should pause the election.
It's not something that I would have thought that people
would suggest, Marcus. I think Christopher Luxon should call a
national emergency and cancel the election due to the Iranian war.

(01:31:56):
Now I'm not quite sure if that person is gaslighting
me or is for real, So I just imagine that
person has been mischievous. Marcus. I'mon Torbay. It's been window
all afternoon and on my phone it says the window
is blowing at forty seven kilometers per hour. It's unpleasant
outside for his stormy Marcus. The dropping of the open
road speed limit was not when we had Carlos Days.

(01:32:18):
It was seventy three to seventy four during the Yonkapur
War between Israel and the Arab countries. Marcus, it came
to the crunch which top twenty industries would take preference
and access to petrol and diesel stock if we had
to ration fuel supplies be Dave Renni, wouldn't it. You'd
have to get to the matches. He's flying back and
forward to Japan. It'd be Dave Rennie had been number one.

(01:32:40):
He can get his Ford Rodeo around the different matches
to chip pick because apparently I was reading some reconvincing
scribe today about rugby and he said, the way that
these six nation countries are playing is that boy on
Mark reason it was is it we won't even get
a look. And that's how much that the that's how
much there are back three have got good. We're not

(01:33:03):
even in the picture now. I don't know what year
Carlos Days was. If someone could tell me more about that,
I'd be interested. I think Wednesday was the most popular,
but I don't know what year it was. It was
seventy nine to nineteen eighty, so yes, they had during
the young Kapoo Waar we had to drive slower and
then we had Carlos days. Didn't last long? Did it work?

(01:33:26):
Hard to know. I can't remember enough about it.

Speaker 10 (01:33:28):
You might have some.

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
I think a lot of people sold faked stickers which
seemed done sporting. It might be something you want to mention.
Two twenty two away from eleven, with it till midnight
tonight and strong winds in the north. I've just learned
about that. But yes, if you want to be a
part of it, let's be hearing you. It's nineteen to eleven,

(01:33:50):
a tim beverage on from twelve and the lines are
free if you want to talk. Keep those texts coming
through too, if you can. Wind has died down in
Dargaville and the last hour was blowing a gale. Earlier
on must be moving down the front, but it seems
like tall bays getting hit. Someone said, as Roman ever
coming back, I'm not across the people's travel itinerar area.

(01:34:13):
He loves us talk. He won't be gone for long. Romance.
I can promise you that Colin Marcus.

Speaker 9 (01:34:18):
Welcome, Hi Marcus.

Speaker 10 (01:34:22):
Just want to make comment about the Boyster season starting.
I'm salivating already. I'll see it's up around nearly fifty
dollars a dozen. What's going on? I thought you might
be able to sort it out down me.

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
They're not getting any No, well, I think that they
talk about they talk about, sorry.

Speaker 10 (01:34:42):
The money just started, then't they.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
Yeah, but they've got an amount they go out to
get and it's taking them all day and they're not
getting many. So you've got to bring You've got to
bring dridges, put the dridges down and haul them up.
And they're not they're not getting on the beads, and
the beads they're getting on haven't got any many oysters
in them. The Nahoo boat hasn't gone out. They've said

(01:35:05):
they're not going to fish because they believe it's a
fishery that's under stress.

Speaker 10 (01:35:11):
So it's not a weather thing. Is that it's not
a weather thing. It's not getting out.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
I know the weather's been beautiful. It was twenty freeze
and flat camera the weather that I've never known an
oister season where the weather has been better. It's just
that they're not there last year's ones went good either,
you weren't getting those big ones. I don't know how
quickly they grow.

Speaker 10 (01:35:34):
Yeah, they went very big last year.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
That's terrible.

Speaker 9 (01:35:38):
Yeah, I'm I'm.

Speaker 10 (01:35:39):
Stuck on the couch here coughing away and been doing
it for about twelve days.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
Now, you got COVID.

Speaker 10 (01:35:48):
I've tested for that, and so's the wife. She's about
two days behind me. So we talked some of these
through to Papa up here in Wellington, and that's where
we think we picked it up because you know there's
bus loads going through there at the moment.

Speaker 4 (01:36:03):
Yeah, oh, you were picked up.

Speaker 10 (01:36:06):
We go anywhere else, but the weather over here is
there's been all over the damn show. Because I'm waiting
to go out onto Palace of A so I can
get some craze before they are completely finished.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
It's crazy. The craze have a season, oh yeah, pretty.

Speaker 10 (01:36:24):
Much from November to about the beginning of March end.
Well the peak is like no, yeah, mid November through
to about the end of February.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
And do you fish commercially, No, no, no, no no.

Speaker 10 (01:36:45):
I just take my pots and as an individual you're
allowed three pots. So if there sea's too rough to
take it out on a boat. You know, I've only
got a row boat so to put them out so far.
But if that doesn't work out, then I put a
wetsuit on and put some floats on the on the
pots and then yeah, just use flippers and get them

(01:37:08):
out as far as Again, you don't have to go
at that far anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
So you you've got to go. That's a pallace of bay,
you see, is that right?

Speaker 12 (01:37:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:37:18):
Yeah, the roads I would go anywhere near the Wellington
Harbor at the moment to ask, and the.

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
Roads all clear down there because there was a bridge
that was broken after the storm. Wasn't they going to yep?

Speaker 10 (01:37:30):
Two of them, two two one way bridges went out.

Speaker 8 (01:37:35):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 10 (01:37:36):
And what since repair them?

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
Okay? And what are your what are your bait crayfish
pots with?

Speaker 10 (01:37:42):
Oh anything? You're usually just all heads or bodies of
fish or I also dropped dropping it out lake there
and we get to sometimes get a hell of a
lot of car wife. So yeah, it's just cut them
in half and man, but you pretty much can do

(01:38:03):
any any sort of see for really it's the best
or even some bit of meaty product.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
Yeah, how many days do you think you'll be up
at about.

Speaker 10 (01:38:16):
Oh man, it's not lock me for rah cans, you know.
So it's not the flu. It's just a head cold
and then it goes to your chest. You know. I'll
never not me with colds. In the past, it's like
two three days and you're fine, you know. But these
days I don't know what it is. A strain surround.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
Go hope you get well soon, Colin. And yeah, I
don't think. Yeah, oh good luck with the oysters. They
have said with the oyster festival there it's going ahead,
even if they haven't got oysters, which they didn't give
me that much. Yeah, I was worried about that. But
nice to hear from your Colin. Fifteen from eleven. If
you want to talk, my name is Marcus Good Evening
A eight hundred and eighty eight Evening Grant. This is Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 26 (01:38:57):
Hello Marcus. Now, first off, do you remember that Carlos
Days was a Spanish bull fighter. Remember someone come up
that bright idea and started made stick.

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
I think it sounds their cars. It sounded to me
like it was a Blea T James joke.

Speaker 26 (01:39:15):
I think, oh yeah, well, well, I mean not everyone
put them put them on on their cars. But I
you made it a quite a bit of money there,
for I don't know how.

Speaker 22 (01:39:25):
Much a solder for a dollar or something like that,
you know, money, and.

Speaker 26 (01:39:29):
That sold there. There's stickers on there. But I have
to say that Trump's sort of the war will end
soon without actually saying when soon is seemed to have
the desired effet because oil went down from one hundred
dollars to ninety dollars a barrel. So maybe if the

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war's still going in a couple of weeks, and the
markets and the journalists a niche press commons would ever say,
well the war's still going, maybe you could say, well,
I said it would in soon. I'm now saying it
will end very soon. Maybe first we'll go there.

Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
And even more, well, maybe the market knows that actually
probably is the sort of guy that could probably unleash
all sorts of bombs if he doesn't get his ways.
Who knows what's going to happen. I wouldn't put it
past it to escalate it.

Speaker 26 (01:40:18):
Well, well, I mean, but the problem is, of course
is you know, I mean, you know, these figures he
comes up with about how many this is destroyed and
how many that's destroyed, and you know the Iran military
being completely decimated. Well, okay, they're not firing off as
many drones and as many missiles, so we're right at

(01:40:39):
the start. But they still are firing off missiles and drones,
so you're obviously not completely destroyed, and they.

Speaker 2 (01:40:46):
Still will be manufacturing more drones and missiles. Miss drones
are easy to manufacture, they're not hard.

Speaker 26 (01:40:52):
Yeah, yes, So.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
I mean, do you remember do you remember Carlo's days? Grant?

Speaker 20 (01:41:00):
Oh?

Speaker 26 (01:41:00):
Well, yeah, sort of. He had to pick it that
he actually had a choice. You could pick a day
of the week. I can't remember. I think it was
just Monday to Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
You'd be a Tuesday, would you?

Speaker 26 (01:41:13):
Yeah, oh, I can't remember. I can't remember which day
I picked. But at least you had, you had a choice.
Maybe they thought it will go down a a better
if people have a choice. So but I have to
say I never bought one of the Carloss Days ballfighter stickers.
I would have been embarrassed put something like like that on.

(01:41:35):
But yeah, I just know I don't think Carlos. I mean,
there may be all sorts of different wrestling coming on later.
If you know, it just escalates escalator, escalator. I don't
think Carlous days will make a reappearance.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
Do you remember how you got to work on your
Carlos day?

Speaker 5 (01:41:53):
Well, I caught the bus.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
Yeah that's the answer, isn't it. There we go, it's
there still the buses to catch. Grant, thank you, good on.
You get in touched Marcus Still twelve eight hundred eight
nine nine two de text. So there we go. Be
in touch. So do you get in touch? You want
to talk here till midnight? There's something you want to say.

(01:42:21):
I'm up for it. The Strait of Hormus and the minds.
I don't know where minds will be in the history
of warfare. But they're tricky things, aren't they. But yeah,
so get in touch. If there's anything else you want
to talk about tonight, timsong at midnight tonight, and we're
talking the straits of hor Moo, the Strait of hor
Moos mainly and petrol rationing. I can't think how you

(01:42:45):
do it, because people have got multiple cars these days,
in multiple hows. I'm sure people wouldn't be quite that
straightforward or honest with it. I do worry about that.
I worry about people's honesty. I think we don't do
things as one. There is so much distrust in the government,
and yeah, I don't think I don't think people would
react well if you said you got to lose. I

(01:43:05):
think probably people want to go and do the opposite.
That seems to be what people do now. I think
it's opposite. Week the government says can can serve fuel,
they'll go and do the exact opposite. So that's one
of the things we are talking about tonight. So it's
seven away from eleven. And if there is just something
more general you want to talk about tonight. With the

(01:43:26):
fact that I don't never really are as a state
of a nation, i'd see what no one's talking about.
Prince Andrew no one. I wonder if he started the
war as a diversion, because it certainly worked. I don't
even know if they've charged him, you know, I don't
think they have, so just putting their out putting that
out there, that's that's something that's happened. No one's talking
about him, although I think it's probably only amount of

(01:43:49):
time before they find more information. I think it's about
eight investigations ongoing, and there's really dodgy photos being discovered.
You wonder why he allowed himself to have those photos taken.
That's what I can't quite work out why he would
allow because I mean, in those days, it's not like
a far you have to get out a camera, and
if you're involved in a compromising situation, you think probably

(01:44:10):
that wouldn't have been a good I don't know why
he is that. There must have just been the whole
He was so excited. I didn't know what was going on,
but yeah, that seemed like poor lack of judgment, which
is probably one of the criticists you can have with
the royals is a severe lack of judgment. So just
put that out there also. So that's what we're about tonight. Now,
if you've got to chat about any of these things

(01:44:31):
or anything else. Pretty excited that guy's going to get craze.
And yeah, I know the oysters are forty six dollars
a dozen, but what I'm hearing is the ships are, well,
the oyster boats are. They're not getting as many as
they used to, so they're hard to come by once
they're out there, and all the oyster skippers will have
their own coordinates where they know the beards are so

(01:44:54):
I go back to their coordinates and I'll get on
top of those and they'll dredge. But they're yeah, and
I think you've got to sort through a lot of
muck to find them. I've been on oyster boats when
I've been out there. It's been too rough to bring
the bring the dredges up. But that's what the people
have told me. It's tricky that way. So there we go.
Thanks to all those texts. Some of them are brilliant.
You got more of those, that's good. Sarah Ferguson is

(01:45:18):
under more heat than Andrew Carlos days. I got an
exemption of student to go to lectures and kneel our
Carlo's day was Thursday. I'm sure Thursday's sticker was purple.
This government's COVID equivalent may have landed Marcus. There are
nineteen countries either directly or indirectly involved in the war
so far, Cedric whatevering Marcus slush the need they need

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to close yours to beds for a couple or three years.
I went to the Ostficial last year. It was fine time,
but they were out past midnight dredging to get more
for the day, and the oysters were small, still delicious,
but close it down. I reckon recovery time, yes, But
will people close down a bed if they're financially depended
on it. That's the thing that's their commercial enterprise, isn't it.

(01:46:03):
There are nineteen countries either directly or directly involved in
the wars, so fast see. Iran strategy is to starve
golf states a revenue, forcing them to suck their money
out of US, out of US stocks, causing a crash.
Mark's a lot of ship's pass through the Civa Aiden
from the Red Sea, hence Yemen laying minds there that
would disrupt world trade of other necessities, not just oil.

(01:46:25):
Is a really good point because thank you for that,
because that does go to the Mediterranean. That is the
shortcut through the Sewers Canal at the end of the
Red Sea. So thanks for that. Brent crude has jumped
five percent and three hours. I'll look into that because
someone's yeah, okay, thank you for that. I suspected it would.

(01:46:50):
Let me just look at that, but thanks Ben, that's
really good in tel for me. Brent crude price chart
on it now, come on, bring it up, bring it up,
bring it up, Come on, come on, come on, come before.
Oh yeah, wow, okay, it's not quite what I'm seeing.
Let me have a bit more of a look at
that back after the news. If you want to talk,
I wait hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine to
nine to detect. Looking forward to what you've got to say,

(01:47:11):
head on midnight centerbit just confirming you that goes right.
The price of Brent cruids up to ninety bucks after
the ship was attacked in the Gulf, so that doesn't
seem to be the same conference. The war's going to
end anytime soon, Marcus. Another issue seems insurance rates for

(01:47:31):
shipping and hormoz has become virtually unobtainable thanks Barry Marcus.
Price gouging oil down eighty six a barrel was ninety
then just under one hundred and peak one thirty barrel
at Z stations in christ Church closed three dollars yet
oil way down. Call them out to do your job
protecting us. RB whare the truth teller. You should do

(01:47:51):
your job and get some punctuation. But good on you.
My job's not to talk about the z and as
you're putting up petrol. But if you want to, you're
more than welcome. Marcus, how well do you know your
work colleagues to invite them into your car to save
money and fuel to join the car pulling drive? Would
you consider it? I would, but I work on my
own so there's no one that's in the building at

(01:48:14):
the same time I am. There's no other broadcasters that
live in Bluff, so I wouldn't be car pulling. Nina
and danare in Auckland so and they work different hours
from me, So yeah, I'm not going to consider it.
I'll bike. I'm happy to do that, and in fact

(01:48:34):
I enjoy doing that, But you have had no problem
with car pulling. It's just not practical for me. I
could probably broadcast from home if there was a rationing,
if there was an energy crisis, I'd be happy to
do that, but I don't think a sound quality would
be as good. Or I could move into the studio
and sleep here, but there are people working during the day.
I couldn't cock for the children. It'll be my concern.

(01:48:57):
Ten past eleven people welcome. If you got anything for
that final hour, I'd like to hear from you about
the Strait of Hormus and how do you think we
should run it? Rationing what should we do because it
seems like it's going to happen. I think the pollys
are well, they're a group meeting this week to find
out what they can do. But I mean, I don't

(01:49:18):
to be brillian on that. What a huge amount of
confidence in the government. I see now that Luxeon's trying
to convinces how busy he was working over the first
weeks of January. The optics of that don't look good.
He was working on his music playlist. From what I
could see. Oh well, the watt is Anna Heinz. Things
seems a bit wrong. No more frozen vig that's right

(01:49:40):
or important frozen vich And I don't necessarily think that's good.
That's that good because you don't know the conditions they're
growing in. I suppose we need some trust on food security,
but it doesn't make a yeah, doesn't fill me with confidence.
And I don't know what's going to happen to Gregg's Coffee.
They've got those big buildings in and inn where they're
making the coffee look like they've make good apartments. I'm

(01:50:02):
sure that's what will happen to them. Be student accommodation,
I imagine, But Griggs is still a good coffee brand,
isn't it. Okay, I'll make it overseas. You're going to
have Pete. Now, this is for all our sins.

Speaker 10 (01:50:15):
Here you go, Marcus.

Speaker 5 (01:50:16):
Okay, Pete, Akay, Marcus there good, Thanks Pete.

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
What's happening?

Speaker 5 (01:50:24):
I'm not sad about Hines and what he's flazing down
in it terrible. You know what I don't know is
you think there's a lot of companies of the farms
are doing quite well. I know they've got a lot
of money from that anchor whatever they got that money
from them from you know, from France. And then you think,
why don't we as as companies and you're gonna buy

(01:50:46):
them out rather than closing them down. There must be
a lot of people everybody. I used to always have
those mixed veggies and then in the freezer and that
the someone you're just easier get the old you know,
the mixed veges or whatever, or beans or peas, and
you just put them in the pot and cook them.

Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
Maybe people are eating less frozen chies with that be true,
were just buying the important stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:51:08):
Yeah, I think maybe I shouldn't say it, but maybe
people are just going going the lazy quit off and
I go and I go to you wall, were seeing
your Plymouth and get my groceries there, and they've got
the new McDonald's car parking out quite well, see it
up and sometimes I'll just gorry you and use your WiFi,
you know, park here and it's always does he I

(01:51:30):
think maybe people are going more take aways.

Speaker 2 (01:51:34):
And I think I think you're probably right, and a
lot of people are just eating. Now what's that thing
they've got in those? Will you just dial your food?
And have you heard of that uber.

Speaker 5 (01:51:43):
Eats each Yeah, I think that's where we're going.

Speaker 2 (01:51:47):
That's a new form of lazy. Just sitting there on
your phone, your food's at the door, eating it, you're watching.
Doesn't seem a way to live though, doesn't Pete.

Speaker 5 (01:51:54):
Everybody says they're hard and money. But park Man, you've
got the McDonald's business and your pump. You're doing very well.

Speaker 15 (01:52:02):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:52:03):
It's always busy with the drivers coming in and out
delivering food.

Speaker 5 (01:52:07):
Well they are they It's it's a really it's a
really uh well greased chain. Letter is you know, the
skips on going around. It just just doesn't stop you
going here, like from my andre to go throughout half
hed groceries of plugging my wife while on there and
just see what the soil of the situation is. The

(01:52:28):
the new McDonald's which is quite interesting, but it's just
a constant blow is there is.

Speaker 2 (01:52:34):
There a new McDonald's and new Plymouth Pete the same one.

Speaker 5 (01:52:38):
They've done on the car park up. They made a
lot more easier friendly.

Speaker 24 (01:52:40):
It's not better now, okay, well, but before they said.

Speaker 5 (01:52:44):
The poor staff used to go out there, Nicole and
just sort of speeded up and get the get the
old drives going pretty faster, but made a lot more
modernized now so you can drive. You've got two lanes now,
so you just go there talking to the book and
to the to the mic sort of things. They got
two lanes. They basically I think they've just spied the

(01:53:05):
whole process up and I think people like that. You
don't have to wait long with the time you drive
in and then you just speak into that microphone thing,
get what you want, and you're pretty much you're out
with and probably you've got a really well down with
a fine tune of them, probably two or three minutes
for the time you order it. You there out yet

(01:53:26):
the exit.

Speaker 10 (01:53:27):
You know you're not.

Speaker 2 (01:53:28):
Getting your five a day though with McDonald's, are you
you're not getting your vegetables. You're not getting your five
a day?

Speaker 5 (01:53:35):
Oh no, definitely not. And it's expensively actually, tell you
is that cheap anymore? The old day you get your
bigger spugs and you get your meat, your begs or
whatever mix bige's, or your peas or beans like it
might take you. You know, if you just stay long
on the crook a meal that does at half am
you put your spugs on and then you put your
diges on. You can you have a meal with and

(01:53:57):
half these out?

Speaker 2 (01:53:59):
You thought thought of doing your cookbox Peepe? I went
the cooking some years ago at night school in Iceol.

Speaker 5 (01:54:07):
That's going back, buddy. Should I milk taker?

Speaker 8 (01:54:09):
Then?

Speaker 2 (01:54:10):
Oh you'd you'd be a live wire at nightsclose. I
could see you there holding court.

Speaker 5 (01:54:15):
Oh it's funny. It was actually quite good showing all that.

Speaker 6 (01:54:17):
Pe.

Speaker 5 (01:54:17):
Then they've gone, you don't have evening.

Speaker 2 (01:54:20):
The government government got rid of it. Were you doing
Chinese cooking?

Speaker 15 (01:54:23):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:54:23):
I was well, I was doing the Italian a little
bit of Dutchess where the Dutch course going there too,
So I went along a bit of that, and but
it was really really good. There's another top should bring
up to me at night class, and they are all gone.
I used to be quite good. I actually didn't. I
at a loud, sweet one that's spent a little bit rough.
It's good. Yeah, I did the whole thing out, but

(01:54:46):
through the two seater and a three for you you
built that. I couldn't sew. I couldn't sew for save myself.
But I could do everything else pretty good, you know,
putting the springs and putting all the putting, all the
padding around. I couldn't say. I just see the tutor,
I said, I might be just as far for you
to do the sawing. And they're spending a lot of
time sort of. I was feeling all these stretching and

(01:55:09):
getting retreated the needle again, and so you see basically
over the sewing, and I just did the basic stuff,
you know.

Speaker 24 (01:55:15):
But to me, I got to god, you still got it.

Speaker 23 (01:55:19):
No, I sold it.

Speaker 4 (01:55:19):
I thought you sold it.

Speaker 5 (01:55:21):
Some passed away and I got here, I've got a
handy down.

Speaker 8 (01:55:24):
You sold it.

Speaker 5 (01:55:25):
Yeah, somebodys I spit at the whole year is to
work there.

Speaker 2 (01:55:30):
I'd like to see that. I'd like to see that.
Sometimes Pete I got to run. But thank you. That's good, good,
You've got a good material there Night schools and Pete's couch.

Speaker 9 (01:55:39):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:55:39):
Here we go live reporting from Christine high Marcus. I
live in Kudamundra in New South Wales and we felt
the earthquake here. Thanks for the interesting show each night've
been listening each night since you started. Regards Christine, I'll
lovely to hear from you. Christine. I'm going to look
where Kudimundra is. I was interested that Australia had a

(01:56:00):
town called Bluff that's on the railway in Queensland, and
that paramedic rang rang up about looks like a town.
I'm looking at Kudamundra. Nickname Cuda, great nickname Cudamundra. It's
between June and walid Bean. I know a bit about
June because when I work for the railways, we used

(01:56:22):
to change crew in June and that's where we'd spend
the night. That's a little arm fact that you might
know about. Through pleasant town, went to the pub and
played darts the old June. Just looking on Google maps
see where we stayed quite close to the railway. Oh
it's all coming back to me now. Fifty years ago,

(01:56:45):
would it be forty years ago? Would it be thirty
years ago? Be a number of years ago, Joe Rogan says,
on seeing that he feels portrayed over the Ran War. Well,
no kidding, no kidding, Joe, maybe that should und due
diligence on your candidate before you got behind him. But
oh no, it's all about the likes for the podcast,

(01:57:05):
isn't it. And the clicks. Don't think Taker Calson's happy either.
The latest news Saudi oil giants worn of catastrophic consequences
from the Iran War as three commercial ships are attacked
in the Strait of Hormuz and Tehran tries to strangle

(01:57:26):
the world's energy supplies. So now suddenly they're getting serious
about that with their reporting. Amen NASA, the SEO of Aramco,
not Amco. They're the gene people. A Ramco said. While
we have faced disruption the past, this one is by
far the biggest crisis the regions oil and gas industry
has faced. He admitted that while his firm, the world's

(01:57:46):
biggest single export of oil, was meeting most of its
customers needs, this was only possible by tapping the storage
facilities outside the Gulf. He said these stores cannot be
used for extended period of time, but for the time
being we are capitalizing on it. There would be catastrophic
consequence for the world's oil markets, and the longer the
disruption goes on, the more drastic the consequences for the
global economy. The stark warning comes up to three commercial

(01:58:09):
ships retacked in the Strait of Hormuz, a choke point
as a result of the roiling War. I don't know
what the word roiling means, and if that's a typo
or not, I'm going to look that up. The roiling,
turbid or muddy.

Speaker 8 (01:58:25):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:58:25):
As a result of the roiling War, oil shipments have
been largely blocked from using the shipping arter, which is
normally roughly twenty percent of the world's oil would pass
through daily. Iran said on Tuesday would not allow one
leader of oil to be shipped for the Middle East
if US in Israeli continues the attacks. An attack on
the Israel attack on the Thailand flag bulk carrier Mayory

(01:58:46):
Nari from an unknown pric dial happened eleven miles north
of Oman and result on fire on board the ship.
So yes, the hall move's bottleneck. What a bottleneck? And
the channel within that it's only two miles wide. And
by the way, I didn't know this. I've just learnt
this that Saudi and UAE can see petrol through a

(01:59:09):
pipeline to the Red Sea, but then them and can
bomb that one also hapas living. Good evening, Glenn, Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 24 (01:59:19):
I'll get a Marcus.

Speaker 9 (01:59:20):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (01:59:21):
Yeah? Good Glenn? How you going all right?

Speaker 18 (01:59:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 24 (01:59:23):
Good?

Speaker 8 (01:59:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:59:24):
I've moved from Batist. I've retired and I've moved to Sydney. Wow,
so a big step.

Speaker 2 (01:59:31):
But we were farmersistants Bethist.

Speaker 15 (01:59:35):
No.

Speaker 24 (01:59:35):
I had a work where shop I remember that, Yeah,
and sold the business after sixty five years. My parents
started when they were twenty and they're eighty five now
and I've sold the business.

Speaker 2 (01:59:52):
Who'd you move to in Sydney?

Speaker 24 (01:59:54):
Marylands? The drive by capital of Australia.

Speaker 2 (02:00:01):
What train line? What's it called Merrylands.

Speaker 24 (02:00:04):
Yeah, it's one or stations along the Parramatta one station
from Granville.

Speaker 2 (02:00:11):
Oh yeah, okay, Granville was famous from the the train extra. Yes,
I would have I would have I would have walked
through Marionne because I walked to Ruti Hills. Yes, that's
where on what's name came from? Mallette Dodging. Yeah, oh

(02:00:35):
that's good and you've got a good set up there.

Speaker 24 (02:00:38):
Yeah, a block from the shopping center and heading away
on a cruise on Friday for two weeks Banawatu and yeah, yeah, hey,
look that done the earthquake. We didn't feel it in Sydney,
but the place is called Burwa. Oh yeah, and you

(02:01:02):
had the phone call or sorry, the text from Tom. Anyway,
I was there at the weekend. It was my old
schools one hundred and fifties and.

Speaker 2 (02:01:14):
What happened because it was one hundred of years ago
since the phone, since the phone was invented. And I'm
hearing all this school reunions.

Speaker 24 (02:01:21):
So yeah, yeah, so and I was on the table
with my kindergarten teacher and my year two teacher.

Speaker 2 (02:01:30):
Your kindergarten teacher was still alive.

Speaker 24 (02:01:32):
Yeah, I'm sixty four, And.

Speaker 2 (02:01:35):
How was a kindergarten teacher eighty something?

Speaker 24 (02:01:37):
Well, she's eighty five. We were her second year out
of teacher's college and my year two teacher's ninety two.

Speaker 2 (02:01:46):
And were they still living in Coudemundra.

Speaker 24 (02:01:49):
Yeah, and you know it was a real great trip
down memory lane because a year two teacher was widowed
that year and she said we kept her on her
toes were pretty, you know, sharp lot and she anyway,
she got out the photos and she couldn't remember some

(02:02:11):
of the kids and I filled in the gaps. But
my kindergarten teacher, Yeah, it was great. It was a
great night.

Speaker 2 (02:02:22):
So did you grow up there before they started with
the clothing shop and bathist? Is that what happened? Did
you miss?

Speaker 24 (02:02:28):
Mum and dad kicked off the business in Tudor. They
got married on a Saturday, caught the Aubury mail train
from Sydney to Tudor on the Sunday and Dad had
bought a boot shop and opened for business on the monday.

Speaker 25 (02:02:42):
Wow.

Speaker 24 (02:02:44):
And I was along nine months and one week later
and Dad said, you just got on with things cheapest.

Speaker 2 (02:02:52):
Are are you missing Beathist?

Speaker 24 (02:02:56):
Yes and no. I've been going up every two weeks
just to visit Mum and dad there in good health,
you know, going out for lunch. I bought myself a
new car, I bought Alexus.

Speaker 2 (02:03:11):
Did you sell the did you sell the business?

Speaker 8 (02:03:13):
Yeah, I was very lucky.

Speaker 24 (02:03:15):
The chemist next door wanted to keep the business as
it was, and he bought the building as well. So
I had to evict myself. And I'll tell you what.
There was five skip loads that went to the tip.

Speaker 2 (02:03:32):
I tell you not what not of Arion William Boot surely.

Speaker 24 (02:03:38):
No, no, just that stuff out of my house upstairs.
Like I had three rooms full of books and wine,
and I had to be a bit tough. I gave
most of my books away to the Lifeline. They have
a book fair and but yeah, just other clutter, you know.
It was a good opportunity to clear the decks.

Speaker 2 (02:04:00):
Wow, that sounds what's the pot.

Speaker 24 (02:04:08):
Six and a half thousand people?

Speaker 2 (02:04:10):
And what's the industry there? Is it a cropping town
or a farming town?

Speaker 24 (02:04:14):
Yeah, very very prosperous. Wheat and sheep meat works there
and the birthplace of Sir Donald Bradman.

Speaker 2 (02:04:23):
Of course.

Speaker 24 (02:04:26):
You know who, Marcus, do you know who the first
person was that got Sir Donald?

Speaker 2 (02:04:33):
Doubt was his brother or something.

Speaker 24 (02:04:36):
I've got no idea now it was the midwife Granny Short.

Speaker 2 (02:04:45):
You go well on the cruiz, Glen. Thanks for that,
very good. That's two jokes. Tonight we got the next
to Kinner joke and the Redmond joke, both excellent. Marcus.
I noticed nobody's been talking about the seven dollar block
of butterstole of the soupermarket. It's way better butter than fonterra.

Speaker 1 (02:05:01):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (02:05:02):
I don't know about that, Hi, Marcus yet. Back night school,
I was so excited to read the local paper and
tick off what nights and what courses I would do.
I was learning to fly.

Speaker 18 (02:05:12):
I did a.

Speaker 2 (02:05:13):
Meteorology exam to pass my pilot sizes. I did cake decorating.
I did China doll making. I did microwave cooking. I
did Chinese cooking. I did freak preserving. Absolutely loved it.
Probably thirty years ago. Good evening, Jared, it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 23 (02:05:29):
Yeah, okoday, Marcus, thanks for taking my call. Yeah, I
just wanted to talk about I just came through Lake
White Camerajuana Road from Wairai through to Mirror Potter through Retahuna.
There's just a random sort of road closure. There's a
lot of underslipping work taking place till June there, and

(02:05:53):
I was staying at a station helping him mate out there,
and then I went through and I was unaware of
these road closures. And I got there about just before
I leaven the clock and the road is closed just
east of Lake White Caramel Juana and it's only open

(02:06:15):
between twelve and one o'clock during the middle of the day.

Speaker 2 (02:06:19):
Wow, So you stuck there or did you get through?

Speaker 8 (02:06:23):
Well?

Speaker 5 (02:06:23):
I got through.

Speaker 9 (02:06:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (02:06:24):
I went and talked to the qrs as the roading
people there and the lovely lady. She was very nice,
but it's very strict. It didn't matter who you were
or what you're about. Were they You're only going to
let you through for an hour. And then then I
got I got escorted through the roadworks area where they

(02:06:45):
were doing the underpinning flipwork, and I got through to
the White Carameljuana campground and just a quick thing. I've
got a coffee there and I talked to this guy.
He had a quite a late model BMW and I
was just talking to him. I've just done the great
walk around White Carameljuana with his wife and the ladies,

(02:07:09):
and there car he had no spear because it had
self inflating tires and then the system wasn't working and
he was a bit worried about doing the one hundred
k's of gravel through the road Tahuna and then on
to mirrorfora And I said, I'll tell you what I'll do, mate,
I will will do Tan will do a convoy and

(02:07:29):
I'll watch you in my rear vision mirror. I'm a
bit fast. I got the old high Lux for drive.
But if I I'll pull over if I can't see
you in the rear vision mirror. And I know, if
I haven't seen you for ten minutes, I'll turn around
and we'll you've either got a flat tire or will
sort you out.

Speaker 9 (02:07:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:07:46):
Wow, So how come you didn't know the road was closed?
You just by pass that because of the station you
were on.

Speaker 23 (02:07:51):
You know, I was on a station just just south
of toy like where where just near Warrai. And yeah,
no one told me, even the locals. And I'd come
through two days earlier just to get some supplies and
Warraor and there was no word or nothing on the

(02:08:14):
radio about these road closures.

Speaker 9 (02:08:17):
Wow.

Speaker 23 (02:08:18):
Yeah, So look, it's a very remote road. It'd be
North Island's most remotest road road. Oh it's a beautiful drive,
like if you've look, if you've got the time and
the weather's right. Look, it's it's fantastic. There's even blue
ducks on the western side of that road, sort of
about sort of fifty k's on from Lake White, Carolina. Look,

(02:08:42):
it's an amazing drive, but look, you just got to
take it quite. There's some quite big potholes and a
few rocks occasional rocks and on the road, and it's
prone to slipping.

Speaker 2 (02:08:51):
They're going to fix the road. They're not giving up
on it, though, are they. It's probably quite a major community.

Speaker 5 (02:08:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:08:56):
I mean, like, you don't hear a lot of people
doing the round the Lake White Carameljuana Walk. Now, I
don't know what's happened with that.

Speaker 23 (02:09:04):
No, No, it was yeah, no, look it's it's been
at times. Yeah, that walk's been closed, but it's definitely open.
These people had done the three nights and four days
around the lake, but they were very thankful. I stopped
at Rodahuna and they pulled in behind me. There's a
there's a general store there. I'd only been through twenty

(02:09:27):
years earlier.

Speaker 8 (02:09:28):
And look it was just a old.

Speaker 23 (02:09:31):
Country store with Yeah, I just remember it twenty years
ago and six just a couple of kids riding horse fairback.
But look at a very nice general store and the
people and the beamer brought me coffee, pie and a brownie.

Speaker 2 (02:09:48):
And I was like, well didn't they get the brownie?

Speaker 7 (02:09:52):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (02:09:52):
Than the coffee and the pie is something.

Speaker 23 (02:09:54):
But the brownie, oh, it had it had walnuts on
the markets it was it was. It was out the gate.

Speaker 24 (02:10:00):
It was out the gate.

Speaker 9 (02:10:01):
Good.

Speaker 2 (02:10:02):
It's a great story. We want a strange place to
get a brownie? Yeah, yeah, definitely have you So were
you driven to now?

Speaker 23 (02:10:11):
I'm just I'm only twenty k's out of Wanganui because look,
because of the road closures and the time, it cost
me nearly nearly two hours. So look, I'm I'm running late.
I should have been in Wanganui. I live in Wanganui,
and I should have been here around nine o'clock of
US nine. But look, I'm just pulling into Wanganui.

Speaker 2 (02:10:31):
Now what were you doing on the farm helping out?

Speaker 9 (02:10:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 23 (02:10:35):
No, we just pulled in some lambs. I got some lambs.
I had the rattle I was going. I was my
mate's heading dog. So yeah, he had a man down there.
They had cryptosporidium in the in the two rural schools
and yeah, so there was a man down, so I
was just helping out.

Speaker 13 (02:10:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:10:56):
Oh, it sounds like a good adventure. But you've driven
across the guts of the country, haven't you.

Speaker 23 (02:11:01):
Yeah, no, I have markets and look, it's it is
a phenomenal drive. As you've got the time and a good, good,
solid vehicle. It's well worth the trip through the bush
and the rivers and it's just it's just phenomenal. But
you do have to take it quietly because there are
some potholes and it's prone to slipping.

Speaker 2 (02:11:16):
Yet, how's the vehicle going?

Speaker 7 (02:11:18):
All right?

Speaker 23 (02:11:19):
Yeah, the old VILCS she's twenty eleven, she's done three
eighty thousand, She's good for another another two hundred and
three hundred thousand. You know, they rock solid, the old
Berry Crumpmobile.

Speaker 2 (02:11:29):
Brilliant, Goodania Jared, there we go. Well, it's been an
interesting How a night's school and Cuda Cuda Maundra. Of
course that's where Donald Redwin came from. What was his
average is ninety nine point six? I can't remember exactly,
should know. How's the Chase game? People still watching that

(02:11:50):
sort of given up on TV? Feels like it's the
end of that I saw Old Simon Dellow is doing
tours for the over sixties to the Mekong Delta. Yeah, evening, Peter,
this is Marcus.

Speaker 25 (02:12:05):
Welcome, do they Marcus Marcus? Just interesting what that guy
was saying about the way Caramejuana Road. I first had
encountered it forty years ago when a friend of ours
was traveling over it in a Triumph two point five
and it broke down and he left it there and
got back to Wellington and we went up to recover

(02:12:28):
the car, but it was completely burnt out, and we
leant later that you don't leave a car overnight. And
I came over about six months ago over that road
and the and the tow company and Warra has a
section next to the next to their tow company were

(02:12:48):
just stacked with burnt out cars. So they're still doing
that forty years later. It's quite remarkable.

Speaker 13 (02:12:54):
Wow, yep.

Speaker 25 (02:12:56):
And when I came over it was it was in
the evening and as it got dusk, and that there
were horses just wandering across the road as you come
past a little through the little minor townships and that,
and it's like it's like not like sort of New
Zealand as we know it. It's something really quite different.

Speaker 2 (02:13:17):
Yeah, you got me. I'm a bit homesick because it's
been a long time since Dub done the whole road too,
although I don't think it's changed much. But boy, she's
a pretty different and kind of special place. The lake though,
that's amazing.

Speaker 9 (02:13:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 25 (02:13:31):
Well, I looked at the map I had to get
to Tarong and it looked like a much more direct route,
but I just didn't realize it. You know, I would
have much been better going up through a podocky as
it turned out, Oh where are you coming from? I
was coming from and I wanted to get across to
tarer On, and I'd sort of looked at the map
and thought, oh, that looks direct, but I would have

(02:13:53):
been better off going up further, you know, and going
going up to Tarron in that way. When was this,
I don't know, probably about a year ago now I
can't I can't quite remember. But the other interesting thing
is Peter Blake took a crew of his whickbreed yacht
around like Caromelana just to sort out whether everybody was
going to get on. I thought that was quite an

(02:14:17):
interesting way of testing whether you know, people were going
to get on together.

Speaker 2 (02:14:22):
Is it a hard walk? I don't think it's a
bit up and down?

Speaker 13 (02:14:25):
Is it?

Speaker 9 (02:14:26):
I've never done.

Speaker 25 (02:14:27):
I've walked into the first tap. I did that one
evening when we stayed over there and came back. And
I don't nor when to get scared in the bush,
but I found it quite spooky. Actually, it's quite a spiritual.

Speaker 2 (02:14:37):
Yeah, I'd agree about that. A lot of a long
way inland too, which I'm not used to. I've always
got that feeling when I'm there that it's quite kind
of aerie.

Speaker 25 (02:14:46):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you might sort of sort
of marry spiritual type yep type.

Speaker 2 (02:14:52):
Yeah, don't disagree, Peter, nice to talk. Thank you for
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