Maybe eat once (29 June 2026)

Marcus talks eagles rays, large familes, and whether the CRL is a waste of money.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus lush Night's podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'd be.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Good evening and welcome a new week, and welcome to
you people. It's the twenty ninth of June. It's a Monday.
It's the last Monday in June. It's the last Monday
in the first half of the year. Welcome, good evening.
Hit til twelve o'clock. Oh wait, one hundred eighth. A
couple of things all across the cricket kind of all
the sport on I've kind of been surprised. Well, I've
taken the cricket's taken a bit of a back seat

(00:33):
for me, but this could be a historic victory. Starts
at ten. Also just for you for those that don't know,
I was surprised to see that there's already been one
elimination match in the final thirty two of the World Cup.
Didn't know that was happening in Canada, South Africa. Canada's
going through too, so that's happened quite quickly. I thought
we would have taken a heartbeat, had a pause before

(00:53):
the semis, before the elimination started.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
It.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
No, she's right back into it anyway. How are you
hoping it's good for you are. My name is Marcus. Welcome.
The number is eight hundred and eighty ten eight. If
you want to text, it's nine two nine to a
couple of things we can talk about. Well, there's number
of things we can talk about tonight. I was surprised
to see that story about the eagle rays. For those
that didn't miss the story of the neuse, a number

(01:17):
of eagle rays have washed up on the beach at Potida. Now,
confession time, I've never known of something called an eagle ray,
And every time I say it, I'm about to start
singing eagle rock. So yeah, So the longer I don't
do that, the better. If anyone knows the thing about
eagle raise or fishing, now, it's it looks like I

(01:38):
don't know if they've come up dead or alive, are deceased.
It's never happened before, so for any one, I mean,
I love a fish. I love an unexplained fish story,
and what got today is an unexplained fish story. It's
a mass death event. Goodness, talk it up. Perhaps it
was orcas that chase them up, but the orcers wouldn't

(01:58):
have killed them, And there has been severe weather. But
if you know anything about eagle rays or what might
have happened in poety Oh, let me know. I'd be
curious to know about that. The orcers do chase them
into the flats, but look who wants to win out.
I'm happy talking about eagle rays. Listen, because it's a
word I've never heard of, and I presume they look

(02:19):
like an eagle. Would that be right? Not named after
mister eagle. I've never heard of them until tonight, so
it's a bit of a learning curve on eagle rays.
If you know anything about those or the stranding, that's
something I would like to hear about tonight. Yeah, they
are cartilagitous fishes, yep, rom boid or bodies. I know

(02:43):
about the sting ray, the old Steve who. I know
about the manta ray, but never heard of an eagle ray.
I presume they look like an eagle, but I don't
know that. Peter Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
Oh, welcome, Yeah, good in the evening. I just want
to say something about the eagle raised. The killwells do
chase them into the shallows, but they only there are
kidneys and then they just discard the rest to along
the beach.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
Yeah, amazing.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
It's such a giant mouth. You wonder how they managed
to just focus. They're on the kidneys.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
But anyway, oh bloody easy. I think they're very intelligent.
I mean I've seen them chasing them down Parkery Beach
into the corner by the rocks as the south end
and they just snap. Oh, they just go crazy. You
wouldn't believe the splashes they make trying to get them.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
They've got such a massive mouth.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
Yeah mouths. Yeah, but they're taking I suppose they could
pick a needle out of a haystack if they wanted.

Speaker 6 (03:52):
Those teeth.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Can you tell me what they're looking for on the kidney?

Speaker 5 (03:55):
Oh, this is the best part, is like piece of chocolate.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
But there's such massive animals. Do you work A You're not.
You're going to need thousands or millions of eagle ray
kidneys to survive.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
A yeah, but that's like a delicacy for them. So
that's what they sometimes just chase out.

Speaker 6 (04:14):
You know.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
Okay, you're in Carowell Bay overlooking cow. It's a beautiful night.
The moon shining on the water.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Is the moon full on near full?

Speaker 4 (04:24):
Ye?

Speaker 5 (04:25):
Full? Yeah, it's lovely.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Can I just did you say kidney or liver.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
Oh, one of the two.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
I think it's I think it's the liver.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
Yeah, that would have the oil in it, wouldn't it.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, pecked with fat lipids and or get it, compounds
called squalen incredibly high in calories.

Speaker 5 (04:45):
So yeah, oh nice. See that's what's worth going for,
isn't it.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Because the rays don't have swim bladders, so their livers
provide buoyancy, making them easy to extract and consume. It
is eating just the liveral you are going to maximize
its caloric intake for minimal digestive effort, discarding the tougher,
less nutritional parts of the carcass. Gosh one apex predator.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
Yeah yeah, well truths yeah yeah, amazing.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
And the rays you've seen in Parkery they are they're
eagle rays, not because I always think most of the
rays always think yeah, yeah, okay, nice of talking. We're
talking rays, eagle raised stingrays. I know what the most
common rays are in New Zealand. I've seen kids catch
rays down on the wharf and they didn't call them
stingrays down at bluff, call them something else. Getting touched

(05:42):
You on talk about rays I found that reentest that
last guy oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine
nine to detext the eagle. I think they normally called
them skates that what got down down down home, skates
which lay leathery eggs on the sea floor, called a
mermaid's purse. Oh you might know about that. Get in

(06:02):
touch with Talking the Eagle rays and all. Get in
touch if you're on talk minim as Marcus welcome eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty also very keen to talk
about Les Mills. Know much about Les Mills. I kind
of was aware when he was the miyor. He always

(06:23):
seemed to me to be a always seemed to be
a bit of Australia one eighty guy, wasn't he old?
There was never any never any malarkey with Les Mills.
Always seemed pretty straight up and down. I've always thought,
I don't even know what he did he whisker he
went from athlete to gym owner to mere did he
did he do something else in between? But that's a
big that's a big name in Auckland. Les Mills is.

(06:46):
They always said to become the mayor of Auckland, you
needed to be a brand, and boy he was a brand.
The brand of the gym. Of course, the gym's everywhere now.
The gym is one of those gyms Le's mills. They
took on the world through aerobics or Jesus Side or
something videos around the world. Became quite a big brand.
So you might want to mentioned that as well as Ray's.
That's the major topic for right, So be in touch

(07:08):
if you want to find it very interesting about that.
With the livers, I see thousands, and someone said that
a lot of sewage in the harbor that might attract them,
and also too with the storms and with Wellington's sewage
not in flesh or not good at all. I think
you'll know that. But be in touched one of as Marcus.
Welcome Marcus. I've seen loads of eagle rays cruising in the

(07:30):
bottom alady foot deep passage and rara tongue while swimming
with turtles, Marcus. The most common rains they won't have
to be the cabaret, don't you think, Marcus. After heavy rain,
sewerage is off and or left into the party who
reached into the pottydoor harbor. That's what's happening. To get in
touch with you and talk about this, oh wait that
and Les Bills and Rays yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

(07:53):
Don't get me started on these daft politicians playing rugby.
Goodness me, it's embarrassing. All of it's embarrassing, from the
beginning to the end. Anyway, I see one of them's
Donner's Ribson or something. Jeeps creepers. Yeah. If I don't
quite know why I feel so strong about that. It
just seems I can't think of the words to describe it.

(08:16):
It's kind of it's kind of embarrassing, I think, arrested
development of politicians. And then there, you know, we vote
them in to do a job, which to be fair,
they're not flash at, but to try and kind of
garner up you might be able to articulate better than
I can. I can't do so well at it. But
there we go, getting touching on Talk eight hundred and

(08:39):
eighty nine. Detect anything else you want to mention today
we will have all the cricket updates. I watched the
netball gee, that was one way want it. I watched
a lot of sport of the weekend. I mean, that
is the one of the things I watched, But do
come through you and talk about raise and les wills.
Someone says, search YouTube whales eating raises. I have looked
at that, thank you, But these things the eagle raise

(09:01):
and you want to meet. That's something I've been familiar with.
That word. I will keep your day with the news
to night too, also for the next three hours, fifty minutes,
or however long it is. So yeah, I'm all about that.
And if there is something different that you want to
mention tonight, good, I can handle that. Anything at all.
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty text on ninety two,

(09:23):
ninety two, halfway through the halfway through the year, or
tomorrow will be or something like that which is exciting
eighteen past eight. Anything else you do want to mention,
As I say, get through. We'll look around for news too,
and road closure in the light. But you might have
some breaking news where you are. Don't hesitate to us
what you've got and where that is. Oh, by the way,

(09:43):
I've got a community in Baffold. We've got another story
from Alexander of something that continues to leave half empty
bottles of flavored milk on top of a self service
pump at a fuel station. They came of answer the
problem with CTV, and it was a while ago the

(10:05):
story that started popping up again the milk bottles where
different milks, all different milks leckt on the top of
a pump. So there we go. That's something you might
want to ponder tonight. But get in touch if you
want to be part of the show. By the way,
a Gillian who found her medal on Friday thanks to
help of the audience. She'd lost one of her father's

(10:27):
Gallipoi medals fighting grandfather's and the audience found or suggested
where it might be, and she kind of found that
she's having that framed or mounted. Says Margs. I've decided
to get that metal frame, no mattered. Thank you for
your help on Friday, was appreciated. Thought i'd let you
know that I have been rung to do a political survey.
It was surprisingly difficult to answer some of the questions,
but nevertheless interesting. Twenty past eight, we're on the cusp

(10:52):
of a historic cricket victory. I will keep you updated
with that. That'll start at ten. We're talking eagle rays,
which they're not a type of ray that I've known about.
I've always thought we had skates or stingrays. But it's
a lot of eagle rays washed up in Wellington. Put
it to a beach like thirty of them deceased, blood
damaged if and it's Marcus, welcome and good evening.

Speaker 7 (11:13):
It's good evening, Marcus and listeners. So the killer Whiles
rapp east Temke used today lunch on well based in
the stingrays and a big part of dolphins last night
at about nine o'clock.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
How many in the pod?

Speaker 7 (11:27):
I think it might have been one hundred and fifty.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Oh, that's big. And how many orcuts come up?

Speaker 7 (11:32):
I think they might have been twenty or thirty odd.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
That's a big that's a big amount of It's a
big amount of animal, isn't it.

Speaker 7 (11:40):
I've seen a lot of sting rays in the last
couple of weeks up here.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
A Are you familiar with eagle rays or are they
not something that you've seen?

Speaker 8 (11:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (11:47):
I thought they were more of a tropical species, but
might be wrong there, so.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah, because i've never I've never I mean we've caught
plenty of stingrays in our day, but never seen and
I mean I presume we called them right, but never
seen and the eagle rays looking at them. They've got
a dotted back to them. They're quite they've got quite
striking spots on their back.

Speaker 7 (12:07):
Yeah, well mainly up here as the gray ones and
the brown ones. Yeah okay, and you get the odd
skate and.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
How did you say? What's the skate and stingray?

Speaker 7 (12:17):
Quite a different shape to them, and a spiny sort
of back to them.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Let me just see if I can see an image
of a skate.

Speaker 7 (12:24):
Oh yeah, okay, yeah, quite a spiny sort of back.
And it runs down the tail of it too.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
So the skate is a lot more raised the body
of it than it. Almost looks like a stealth bombit
doesn't it.

Speaker 7 (12:37):
I think the English loves steak and tidies.

Speaker 9 (12:40):
Yeah, skate you eating it?

Speaker 7 (12:43):
No? No, I haven't had to plenty of other stuff.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
The skate that the skate looks a lot dark, and
the sting ray looks more gray, doesn't The skates a
brown fish?

Speaker 7 (12:53):
Sort of whitey? Quite whitey actually the skate okay, but
the round stingrays really good snapper bait.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Oh yeah, cut a little bit so way yeah, brilliant,
good on you. Someone said I don't like them, called
killer whales. We don't in fact check me, I think
they're actually dolphin. I think an orca is a dolphin.
How do I know that? I don't know, Marcus. Eagle
rays are common in the Bay of Plenty, very inquisitive

(13:19):
and fast when they want to be Someone said the
top get into Parliament. Well not yet. They've got to
get five percent and they've got to wait for the election,
and no doubt there will be scandals for top. New
parties have always probably chosen a couple of dud candidates.
That's always what happens, and then the title go out.
Look at the Conservative Party and les miil think about Lisbiell.

(13:46):
I don't if anyone have an exciting lis mill stories
because they just seemed to be a really straight up
coach coached from Winner. Didn't he was her coach Beatrice
from Winner. I'm pretty sure that's the way it worked,
and had the gyms and then was the mayor. Eagle
rays are very common in this our thought, and both

(14:07):
have a more pronounced head on them, whereas a sting
raise a lot flatter. Both beautiful creek. I got no
idea why they evolved like that. Don't know what makes
them tick. Don't need to know, though I guess there
is some work done on Chorus. There is some work
done by Chorus on the connections that link ow Northland

(14:27):
and are transmitters. There will be an outage tonight fungr
A ten twenty six and seventy nine AM Mid Northland
twelve fifteen AM Far North one oh five point one
FM Alto. There are ninety four point three FM be
for an hour anytime between eleven and six, so it

(14:49):
could be the AMM the if it could be the
old AMFM Pincher movement. Wow Eagle Ray listen getting touched
backus till twelve. You want to be a part of it.
We're talking right? Have you ever eaten rays? I suppose not,
because you shouldn't able to talk about fish and say
how have you ever eaten them? But with the price

(15:09):
of cod, I saw a YouTube video from a fish
and chip shop in a Warnica. He's charging I think
twenty seven dollars for a piece of blue cod. I'm
not going to buy fish that far in Land. I
have to check out how much Bory is charging at
the cart and bluff, because it's pretty good there, maybe
a lot less than that bluff kitchen. That's the food cart.
It's as good as it gets, as good as it gets.

(15:32):
The cod Maybe a dumb question. Can you eat a
sting ray? You can eat anything, even Aaron Patterson's beef Wellington,
but sometimes only once. What you should say is, because
you eat a sting ray and survive, you Sue could
eat a puffball. Put eat them together, Gene, This is
Marcus good evening.

Speaker 10 (15:50):
Oh yeah, IM about these eagle rays. Okay, back in
the day, in the fifty sixth and seventies, up in
the Bay of Islands, we used to go up there
and not lost and right up until the eighties and nineties,
and you'd catch the stingrays we call him sting rays.

Speaker 6 (16:06):
Up there.

Speaker 10 (16:06):
They were black and white sort of things. But if
you go down the Kuiper Peninsula down Potoway, there's a
little place called Kelly's Bay. If you go there, there's
heaps of eagle rays. I know they're eagle rays because
they've got a daughter who's sort of a bit of
a wildlife fanatic. Okay, so she looked up what these
things were and got them up on the app that
tells you what things are, and they are eagle rays.

(16:27):
There's hundreds of them, and they come into the Kuyper
apparently to breed. Okay, but that's the first time I've
ever seen that they are more of a brownie, sort
of gray brownie sort of color like the sand a
bit more. But yeah, Kelly's Bay is a little baby
that's got a it's got a headline on both ends

(16:47):
of the bay. And if you go on the northernmost
headland out around the rocks and that there's thousands of
them there, do you reckon?

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Most of us would have confused eagle rays for stingrays.

Speaker 10 (16:59):
No, I don't think so. I think that they probably
are more seasonal. I might have all this roll, yeah,
because I'm not the expert.

Speaker 8 (17:09):
My daughter is.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
She sounds great, the daughter with their cell phone keepers
like the sound of here. I'm looking at the space
that's pretty much inland north of Poto. That's where that
is up at the right year. Okay, No, it's.

Speaker 10 (17:21):
Right on that. Well, it's on the inline out of
the harbor. Yeah, of the harbor there. Yeah, it's a
nice standy bay and around the rock around the headlands
is nice white sand there, and yeah, there's swimming out there,
and you're surrounded by eagle ray.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Okay, okay, nice to hear from e Gene. Thanks for
that eagle rays, David Marcus, good evening.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yeah, hell, I think the steam rays they have a barbed
bob tail. That was what took about the crocodile.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
That's right, got too late, didn't he shouldn't touch that?

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, yeah, got he's treating it like almost a crocodile
got alongside and he got a bit, but stung and
killed him. So apparently it's one of the most painful
ways to go because they can go in, but they're
not easily extracted. Now, we used to call them skate
I believed down here in the South. Now quickly about
the Orca or Keller whales. A case not so long

(18:20):
ago they said they were surgical striking great white sharks
and taking the liver coming in from the sides. There
was a case not so long ago some teenage Orcas
or Keller whales where we're taking out great white sharks.
Do you remember that, Marcus?

Speaker 3 (18:36):
That's what the guy said before he said that's what
they take of the eagle rays. They take the liver.
That seems amazing, doesn't it, that they could be bought that.
I can't work it out.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Hey, one quickie for you. What's a group of osters called?
Is it called a bound? Is it called a mischief?
Or is it called a rump? There's an interesting one.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
I'm going to scar the first one. There's so we're
I left with a Romp and a mischief.

Speaker 7 (19:00):
Michief thinking about oss.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
I go, I'll go with my heart, says mischief, mine
says Romp. I'll go mischief. Yeah, Fredge, I'm angry at myself.
Now that's good question. Well, oh it's a good one, David,
thank you. We're talking rays kill, a raise eagle, rays fiple.

(19:26):
They are venomous. Also, ah, they're venomous barbs, but don't
have poisonous tails. So yeah, that they're better, I think,
better than again doing the old Kurwins of the old
Irwin Carlett's Marcus, good evening.

Speaker 11 (19:42):
Yeah, Marcus, how are you going?

Speaker 7 (19:44):
Mate?

Speaker 11 (19:44):
Good?

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Thanks? Cal?

Speaker 11 (19:45):
Yeah, I heard you talking about blue cod, the price
of blue cod, saying you wouldn't pay twenty seven dollars
for a pizza fish that far in land. Honestly, you know,
I was up at know not long ago, up there
on the getting a harbor there went to local fish
and chip shop and I said, oh, it's a snapper.

Speaker 7 (20:06):
It is.

Speaker 11 (20:07):
Yeah, that would be nice, you know, nice and fresh
air from the harbor. It is, no, we get it
from Auckland. That comes up frozen on the truck. So
just because the fish and chip shop is right by
the shore like, it doesn't mean the fish is caught.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
There, buddy, Extremely good point.

Speaker 11 (20:23):
Yeah, for me, I.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Have historical adherence to fish and chips by the water,
and I'm going to continue that it's more likely to
be fresh.

Speaker 11 (20:33):
I guess mate, not these days. I'm telling you, how.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
How was it? How was the stuff up and on?

Speaker 11 (20:39):
It was all right, quite disappointing to tell the true.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Yeah you should have got, you should have got. Did
they have flounder?

Speaker 11 (20:46):
No? No, no, But there was an old place up
but just further north. These people they had a house.
It was like right on a pier and they're like
a hole underneath the end of the pier, and that
they'd get flounder, like the whole was underneath the house
and they'd get fresh flounder from there. I can't remember
they the place, but yeah, that was fresh flounder every day.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Was the place of it was a place like a cafe.

Speaker 11 (21:12):
No, it was just some older people and oh yeah,
well I remember the name of the place, but it
was you know, it was like a wharf and they
had their places like on the end of it.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
We're talking were you're talking to them?

Speaker 11 (21:26):
Yeah, yeah, I bought the founder there.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Oh they're selling they're selling the flounder.

Speaker 11 (21:31):
Yeah, well this is going back ten twelve years ago.
This one the Founder thing. It's where it's where you
catch the ferry.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
The north.

Speaker 11 (21:43):
I can't remember the name of the place, Marcus, but yeah,
that was a bit cool. Cool roweny that's it, buddy, cheepers. Yeah,
you cook it up. Getting office and chip shop. Their
snapper was brought up from Awkland frozen goodness.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
I guess it's what it's cheaper. I think I don't
know much about food. I was looking at an article
in an English paper to day and was pretty interesting
and I reckon after reading this article that we are

(22:21):
to talk about fish and chips, but the cost of
food and the cost of food prepared outside the house
is just so what am I trying to say in
this article?

Speaker 8 (22:31):
Right?

Speaker 3 (22:31):
They're talking to restaurants about the price of food and
there was some dish I think it was an asparagus dish,
and the ingredients cost were two pounds and the dishes,
the dish cost was twenty one pounds and the restaurant
was making three dollars from it, not one pound fifty.

(22:52):
But yeah, it just seems as though the labor, the
vating compliance on food. I mean, they're all talking about
restaurant meals going to fifty dollars each. But yeah, I
just wonder, I just wonder what the setting is for
what people will. Now that's a kind of a different
topic and not something we're talking about, but when he
was talking about fish and chips and the pies of cod,
and it's all kind of going in together. For me,

(23:15):
you're probably just better off buying a steak if you
go out, because there's not much preparation to done that,
to deal with that, to done that. You can't see
where I'm going with that. The hidden caught cost of
restaurant dishes. Asparagus smoked a moulsion water crest sour dough,
it costs twenty one pounds and the restaurant makes one

(23:36):
pounds sixty five. Yet the ingredients cost two pounds eighteen.
See're paying ten times the price of the ingredients. Just
doesn't seem sustainable. Oh now, thank you for this. Let
me just read this in a tick. I'll just play
this ad is. And I do realize that my promise

(23:56):
to just deep fish and chips in the view of
the water is probably naive with the way that food
handling has changed. But you know, you got to hold
on to some morals together, order some kind of principles
to keep your life interesting. How are you going? People?
Eighteen away from nine skates rays Marcus. My minderstanding is

(24:18):
killer killer. Whales used to be called whale killers. Goodness.
Someone says stingrays and eagle raiser both actually sharks. Easiest
way to tell them parts by the way they move
their fins to swim. Eagle ray is one up, one down,
stingray both together to eat. Stingray cut into small cubes
and deep fry, we call them sting ray McNuggets. Working

(24:41):
on a fishing trawl in the Bay of Plenty, we
call a torpedo ray electric ray. Strange creature. Aren't eagle
rays just oversized flounder. Talking of inland fish, have you
had fish and chips from mister and missus Potato and
Clyde outstanding. Never even heard of it, and I don't
think i'd go there, mister and missus Potato. I think
they'd be a silly name for his job. Marcus, I

(25:05):
surf cast the North Island East coast and catch lots
of eagle rays. The fently little creatures. You can pat
them on the top of their heads to relax them
while I'm moving the hook before releasing outdoors. With Scottie,
I used to eat barbecue stingraund Singapore and Malaysia regularly
was cooked in banana leaf and delicious. Cheers, mate, Marcus,
can you eat a jellyfish? You said you can eat anything, Lisa, Well,

(25:28):
you can eat anything, as I've said, but sometimes only once.
I don't know what this torpedo ray is. Sounds like
a superhero torpedo ray. You a guy called ray shaped
like a torpedo torpedo ray. The electric ray are known
for capable of produce electric discharge. Oh weird looking thing
almost looked beautiful, looked almost circular. What's the great? I reckon?

Speaker 12 (25:53):
We got?

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Yeah, I'll tell you what I'm into these rays. Every
time I go to Kelly talent look pretty amazing from
below because they, I mean they do fly like a well,
like an underwater bird. Dean to nine Cricket, tonight, keep
you updated. Also talking Les Milts. I just don't know. Yeah, no,
I'm not going to say that. I don't know what
I'm going to say about that actually, but yes, anyway,

(26:18):
that's me. I wait on a eighty ten eighty sting
it raise and eagle rays. Now, oh, let's keep going
with this and maybe someone could, maybe someone could help
me explain why I have such a strong negative reaction
to the parliamentarian rugby team. It just sounds like a

(26:41):
It just sounds like a drinking session and a junket
for idle politicians to me. And I don't think it
does anything to make people feel better about politicians. That's me.
Hate it. Hold your horses with you soon twelve to nine,
Hello Thomas, Marcus.

Speaker 13 (26:59):
Good evening, Hello Marcus. I mean something about others please? Yeah,
there is every different names for them. I've got a
couple of heir there in the room of a romp,
and in the sea there are rafts.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Oh, that's good. That's good information.

Speaker 13 (27:17):
If they're in water, they can be called a raft
and if they're sharing in the group, they can be
called a lodge.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Three different names. Okay, that's interesting.

Speaker 13 (27:27):
What lours of a beavy or a family?

Speaker 3 (27:31):
What are they in? What country?

Speaker 13 (27:33):
This is all here? Well, I don't know, I don't
know if I just googled it, Marcus.

Speaker 7 (27:38):
Oh yeah, okay, just out of curiosity.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Oh good on your time. I appreciate that. Thank you.
A lot of texts. Keep those coming through, Walkers. You
eat jellyfish, they serve it in Asia. No taste, not
like glass noodles. The cricket was bizarre. It turned from
a Test match into Ben Stokes testimonial which England had
given up winning and just want to entertain the crowd

(28:02):
on baseball. They've got a lot of criticism for that.
Hospitalities doing it tough. Lady people's disposal when comes dimsicious
diminished even tho restaurants are squeeze to increase their prices.
It's a balancing act where a petal places have the
advantage of word of mouth and loyal customers. Marcus. Commercial
fishermen are not legally permitted to sell their catch locally.

(28:23):
It ows to go through the proper process, otherwise the
commercial vendors may risk their quota that cost some huge
amounts so they won't be caught doing it. Makes perfect sense,
does that? When's something wrong with that? You can to
eat anything as long as it's not cooked by erin
a bloke works. A bloke walks into a chip shop

(28:45):
with a raw fish under his arm and asks do
you make fish cakes? And the owner says no, we've
sold out. The customer points to his fish in size. Oh,
that's a shame. It's his birthday today. Agree with you,
Marcus about the parliamentary rugby dees emone watch hope they
don't apply for acc Well, they'll get it anyway. I

(29:05):
hate it, and I've looked at my motivations. I'm not jealous.
I'm not envious. I've run through all the immediate alarm bells.
It's just indulgent twaddle. It's never the hard working ones.
It's the ones that are taking the mickey. Convinced of it.
Terrible look, terrible borish behavior. Said enough nine to nine,

(29:29):
it's five from nine. Get in touch if you want
to be a part of it. Welcome holp, it's going
well for you. Enjoyed the fish and chip shop joke.
Very very good. The other thing too, just looking at
some letters from an American paper, from the Washington Post,
some letters to the editor discussing what's the ideal number

(29:53):
of children to have? Yeah, not a discussion I've ever
heard on talkback. You've got strong feelings about that or
strong opinions. I guess probably the answer that is the
best number of children to have is the number of
children you've got. Two days this paper, father of nine
saying have more kids, and a father of two saying
I'm happy with that number. I guess there's two thoughts

(30:18):
or two schools of thought for how many children you have.
One is from the parents' point of view, and the
other is from growing up in a family of nine
children versus a family of one or two children. What
is the experience? Which is the more enjoyable one? So
I'm curious if you've got the experience of that, if
you want to say, what's worked better for you with
two kids or ten Kids'd be nice to hear from

(30:40):
if you want to talk about that. And stingrays and
eagle rays and skates, it's another topic for tonight. And
Sir Les Mills die today at ninety one, and yes,
and obviously been quietly. I was surprised most of the
article that he was still alive. I guess it happens sometimes,
doesn't it. But his children a sort of taken over

(31:03):
and done very well with his gym. I think, I
don't think. I think here's well, you know what they
got eponymously named four to nine Judith, it's Marcus. Welcome Marcus.

Speaker 6 (31:14):
You and your family are well and happy.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yes, thank you, I believe.

Speaker 6 (31:18):
And they're here in the spare because I only have
one Marcus. So have you marked up with one of them? Well,
then you've always got the other one.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Have you only got one child?

Speaker 6 (31:31):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (31:32):
And he or she?

Speaker 6 (31:34):
Hey, it's beautiful.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
He worked out all right?

Speaker 6 (31:37):
Yeah, when I die, he gets a million dollars brilliant?

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Does he know that? Does he know he's getting it?

Speaker 6 (31:44):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (31:45):
You spend it before you die, Judith, because.

Speaker 6 (31:48):
I've done everything I wanted to do.

Speaker 11 (31:50):
Match, Really.

Speaker 6 (31:52):
Have you been?

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Have you been the much you pitch you?

Speaker 6 (31:56):
I've been here in my dreams.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Brilliant. Oh, well, what's he get? It's not going to
ruin him? Is it all that money? Suddenly?

Speaker 6 (32:04):
No, he's about to go on. Stay in your eyes
singing give me shelter by mcgegger.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Which which stars in your eyes? Is it like a
local one?

Speaker 6 (32:13):
Yes? And Monita not brilliant?

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Will you be good at it?

Speaker 6 (32:18):
Well, he's you will.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
I tour them the guitar, you know Whichie did, And.

Speaker 6 (32:23):
You know what I said. I went, Oh, Michael, sometimes
mc jagger used to wear a sausage down this pad.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah, I got to go where it uses. Next, the
cricket will start at ten o'clock. The tab are giving
the match forty one dollars to end in a draw,
a dollar five for New Zealand to win, and nine
dollars seventy five for England to be victorious. Victorious. Godness,

(32:53):
So we're talking about stingrays and eagle rays and skates,
and that's been a good hours of talk. All those
eagle rays have washed up in Porty and no one
knows why they've turned up there, thirty of them. It's
an interesting story, that eagle rays. And what's interesting it's
not just eagle rays that have turned up. They say

(33:16):
it could be stormy weather. They say they've never seen
anything like this before. But there were eagle rays and
rig sharks. By the way, someone said that stingraiser sharks.
I don't know if that's true, is it. You hear
a lot of stuff in this job, A lot of
it's not true. I don't think stingraises sharks, but I'm

(33:38):
up for the discussion. Maybe they're relatives. I don't says
that something someone or something about them. What having cartilage?
I think that's what makes a shark, is cartilage. The
other thing that I've embarked on as a discussion tonight
is size of families. Is it best to have a

(33:58):
big family or a small family? Is it best to
be in a big family or a small family. What's
the answer to that? I don't know. I guess we
only know our own experience, don't we. The only thing
I've heard people talk about is if they're an only child.
A lot of people, I think found that quite a
lonely existence. But you want to be an only child
one at the time of your damn life. I'm missed

(34:20):
up for a discussion about that size of families, because
that's sort of discussion in some of the American papers.
Although they're always probably worried about the great replacement. I
think some of those homestead families, you know, are traad
wife families where the wife stays at home. They're big
on having huge families, So yes, it does bring up

(34:42):
some questionable ethics and thoughts around that stuff. But yeah,
your take on that one. Now, there's other stuff you
want to talk about tonight. Good You are more than welcome.
It's to show for you and Liz Mills. Someone said,
how would you know what was been larger a small family?
You wouldn't know. It depends on circumstance. Someone says, whatever
happened to shark from soap to buy on the size

(35:04):
of a baked bean ten over thirty year years ago?
Are you we're a mollygone sharking just resticure in comparison
to a biggest wilve day side by side? Make the
way I look like a dolphin in size? Goodness, get
in touch Marcus till twelve. If these are the things
you want to talk about, we I've actually looked at
that takeaway shop and Clyde looks good. Mister and missus Potato.

(35:27):
They don't seem to have a website, but they've got
a Facebook page quite a zippy looking menu. Actually, oh yeah,
come on, Hndle twelve, what have you got anything goes
Marcus till the end, the bitter end. Oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty and nine to nine two to text.
You got to be a part of it. So yes,
let's be hearing from you. If you do want to

(35:47):
talk about this or anything else, get in touch. We're
up for it. As I say, oh, eight hundred eighty
ten eighty or nine to nine two to text, Welcome
to it. Eagle Rays and the Cricket from ten Tony.
It's Marcus.

Speaker 9 (36:05):
Good evening, Yeah, Marcus.

Speaker 14 (36:08):
I just I've just been listening to some of these
these text texts coming in for you, and it just
seems strike a lot of it's coming straight off YouTube,
you know, with the giant negro to don and the
size of the makes, the way on the side of
the dolphin and all that stuff. There's a lot of
other blind stuff out there, as we all know. But

(36:28):
just regarding the Eagle Ray, the way I remember it
as a kid, when I was right into that sort
of thing was it was actually black with white spots,
So it's kind of contrary to the brown thing that
one of your previous callers was talking about. So it
was quite pretty and it was out in the deeper
water usually.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yeah, that's very much about the very striking I haven't
come across. I've come across a lot of sting rays
and skates, but never never an eagle ray.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (36:55):
I get the feeling they're much more out. They're not
sort of those sort of sludge dwellers on these sort
of sort of close to the shore like a lot
of the sting rays are, though, the brown ones, but
these ones are sort of a bit more out in
the zone where the manta rays are usually. I think
they're kind of quite graceful things, you know, they don't
just sit on the bottom. I think that's that's fit.
How I remember eagle ray is, yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
And they sound like the sort of things I can
sort of seen patent things like that in the Pacific.
I feel that that's where they might be also, too so.
And someone said something about that, where did you see them?
Where did you see them? Tony?

Speaker 14 (37:25):
Oh no, No, this is just as a kid, I remember,
you know how it is a kid. You remember, yep,
you know the animal animal box and things. And I
remember a striking picture of an eagle ray, a photograph
of and it was black with white spots, and it
seemed to be in deep water. There was a bunch
of them, I think. Yeah, so that's why I.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Can't work out why they're called an eagle ray because
they looked more like the night sky.

Speaker 14 (37:45):
But anyway, yeah, no, I haven't figured that one out.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Say the way they moved, Tony, thank you for that
forty one bucks for the drawer for the cricket that's
from the tab. Looks up, we've won this one. Well now,
Cain Williamson feels anyway, get in touch. Surely it's Marcus
good evening.

Speaker 15 (38:04):
Yeah, you were wanting people to ring you regarding the
sizes of families.

Speaker 9 (38:09):
Yes, just this.

Speaker 15 (38:10):
Last two week of weeks I received information that my
great great grandfather had eighteen children. And it just blew
my mind because he had eleven children to his first
wife and seven children who has second wife, So that

(38:30):
made eighteen children. And can you imagine that? I cannot,
I cannot get my head around it.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Were they in the same house.

Speaker 15 (38:39):
I don't have any details. All I have is a
family tree and that's all the information I have at
this stage.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
New Zealand or England.

Speaker 15 (38:48):
In New Zealand, most of them coming from England.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
That was great I'm looking.

Speaker 15 (38:53):
Forward to following it up to try and find out
where all my second third cousins are. I must have
mountains of them.

Speaker 8 (38:59):
This way.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
This was great, great, great, Yes, you must have had
some awareness of that.

Speaker 15 (39:05):
Though I know I did not.

Speaker 16 (39:08):
I was very surprised.

Speaker 15 (39:09):
I knew, I knew my great great grandfather, but I
didn't know his background. And the surprising thing was he
didn't get married until he was thirty four.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Goodness.

Speaker 15 (39:21):
So I'm just getting little bits and pieces to try
and put the puzzle together.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
What was his career?

Speaker 15 (39:29):
His career was a cattle.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Man, because it wouldn't be cheap to have eighteen children.

Speaker 8 (39:37):
Would it. Well?

Speaker 15 (39:39):
Eleven with the first wife. I don't know what happened
to that marriage, and then he remarried and had seven
to the second wife. My goodness, I cannot imagine even
serving up dinner for eleven children and two adults. And
then you've done with that lot, and then you get
married again, and then you line up at the dining
table with seven children and two adults again.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
I think, surely, I think, if your family's big enough,
the older kids take care of the younger ones. I
think that's it's supposed to work.

Speaker 15 (40:07):
Yes, I think it is. Unfortunately, there's not very many
people I can talk to about.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
It because we were you were you adopted or something?

Speaker 6 (40:16):
No?

Speaker 8 (40:16):
You no?

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Okay, but did your grandparents not say that your fact
that their father had no a lot of brothers? Okay?

Speaker 15 (40:24):
Well no, We've had a very quiet family background and
nothing was shared. But all of a sudden somebody decided
to take some interest in the way it's gone. And
it's just I can imagine now that we're going to
be talking about it for years and years and years
because it's it's to me, it is unimaginable.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
You're going to need children, You're going to need a
very big piece of paper.

Speaker 15 (40:49):
I know, my goodness. Yes, anyway, I thought you might.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Like to No, I think that's fascinating. Little keep us
posted on that. I would be intrigued. Thank you. Seventeen
past nine. The size of families, big or small? Which
would you go? And which works? The only ray that
matters is a call. It's stingray with a five seven
to two c I block big block twin two boy, supercharged,
two and a half thousand horse powers, strict legal. Pete

(41:14):
here once saw a Stingwright links gully great place. I
had four children, I could have had eight. I'm from
a family of nine. On the middle child, it's always
the middle child that got left out. Goodness, Marcus, just
to throw a spread on the works family size. You
should only have as many childrens you're going to eventually afford.
J seven past nine, twenty past nine, Margaret, it's Marcus. Welcome,

(41:38):
good evening, Margaret.

Speaker 17 (41:39):
Hi.

Speaker 18 (41:40):
I think in the early days they did have big
families looking at their family tree even and if the
mother died, the father had to take an annie on them.
Quite often they married to any.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Yeah, always feel it, but uncomfortable at that one.

Speaker 19 (41:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (41:57):
And also I've heard that in some of the other
family two with us with the wife dies and Banana
is the next mother. And and then as a child dies,
they named the next child after the child that died.
I don't know if if you were they So there's

(42:21):
two Peters perhaps, but one Peter. The first Peter died,
So the next boy that came along, he was called Peter.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Wow, what we call what's the next cad after one
that die is called Den. I'm just talking about producer
a rainbow child. Yeah, okay, yeah, I've never heard that.
But were you a big family or a small family?

Speaker 18 (42:45):
We were just four in our family, four kids. They're
going back with you know, my father seven and his family,
and then I think there was more on his They
just seemed to the children seemed to come in the
early days, and I think some of the mothers got

(43:05):
worn out and ended up s dying in childbirth or something.
And oh, yeah, it's quite interesting looking back in family trees,
not just yours, but others.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Yes, families certainly are much more. Did you say there
was four children in your family? Yes, the same as ours,
which seemed quite ordinary. But now it seems like a
big family doesn't force sounds like it to well.

Speaker 18 (43:24):
It does now it's hugely It seems to be a
lot of just two two.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Yeah, we're not even going to replace ourselves. That the
population is going to diminish, So I'm worried about. Nice
to talk, Susan. It's Marcus. Welcome, good evening.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
Hi Marcus. Hey, I just reiterate what the previous caller
just said, because I've done my family tree as well
and found the same thing that mostly my family is
all English history, and it's very very common to have
very large families. Children named after the child debts died

(43:59):
and women died during childbirth, and it's usually the reason
why they the mean remarried so that they don't end
up going into the poorhouse, into the workhouse. So they
here's another wife, and then they have more children after that.
It was very, very common, apparently, So I wouldn't be

(44:20):
surprised if that he's related back here for that same reason.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Now they remarried someone with money, did they?

Speaker 4 (44:31):
Oh, I don't know it to look after the children.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
You won't know that. Oh I see, so I see,
I see. It's someone abound to look out to them
so they're not taken off because yeah, that's right.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
Okay, you need to go to the workhouse. They were
just trying to avoid the workhouse a lot of the time,
sound to criminals never ended up having more children. It
was very common to have six or seven children, you know,
two or three centuries ago, very very common because they
didn't have child best control.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Yep, good on you, Susan, thank you, surely it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 20 (45:03):
Yes, I wanted to talk about families. I'm one of
fourteen and the same mother and father, and I'm the
twelfth and I was born in nineteen thirty six. And
we had a great life. I wouldn't say a rich life,
but my father worked every day. We had a big garden,

(45:28):
and you know, my mother was home all the time.
I can remember nappie's were always on the line, they
were and we always had someone to play with and
it was a great life. But it was so different today.
You couldn't do that today.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
How much older than you was the eldest.

Speaker 20 (45:47):
Oh, well, I was the fourth of twelve. I was
the twelfth or fourteen, so I was one of best.
Either the beginning of one year or the end of
the next year, they were old enough to be my mother.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
Really, they left home by the time you came along.
The eldest.

Speaker 20 (46:06):
Yeah, the oldest brother and sister had and the three
of them had left home and they'd come back forward
to them. I mean, the older ones always were up
early with mum and helped during the sandwiches for school,
you know, because Dave was gone to work at sex
and as they say, the older ones help, you know.

(46:28):
But my mother died in the early fifties of her heart.
But my dad never married again, and he just kept going.
He had a housekeeper with that lived with him for
a while. But it was amazing really. I mean, it
wasn't the Second World War, and we didn't always have
a lot, but we had each other.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
How old were you when your mother died with a
bad heart.

Speaker 20 (46:52):
I was about thirteen. Yeah, yeah, I can still remember
her then.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
That must have been quite traumatic for you.

Speaker 20 (46:59):
Well, it was, although she was in our coffin in
the house, and we'd go up and kiss her, even
in the coffin, you know, it was just a natural
thing to do.

Speaker 8 (47:10):
Then.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Well, I think, yeah, it's funny because I think that's
kind of natural again now too, was it?

Speaker 20 (47:15):
Maybe that's it could but yeah, but yeah, it was
just said it was really hard on dead but the
older ones.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
And pull finger the older sisters and brothers.

Speaker 17 (47:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
What what did your dad do, Shirley?

Speaker 20 (47:29):
He worked at a baking factory in the freezer, and
he ended up being foreman. And he used to bring
home sausages and lunching and bacon and pork bones and
and and he had a court of a section where
we lived, and he had a garden where there was
enough to feed half the street. And he'd filled up

(47:52):
the family praying that we were past using of vegetables
and fruit and everything, and tell us to walk around
the neighborhood and bed like.

Speaker 5 (48:03):
And he.

Speaker 20 (48:06):
Is this in Christ, No, this is in the South Taranaki,
well in Hoah. And when the butter and sugar was ration,
they used to give us some butter and sugar. It
was amazing time. And in that way it was amazing.
It wasn't like today. There was no coffee shops or
take away McDonald's and all that sort of thing. It

(48:27):
was only a fish and chip shot that was open
on a Friday. But I don't even remember thinking I
was poorly done or anything.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
How many in your bedroom?

Speaker 20 (48:40):
Well, I'll stop counting. I think far They keep building
on more rooms.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
I just think how you could fit everyone with their banks,
or with their five single beds in your room.

Speaker 20 (48:51):
I don't think banks were ever invented.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
I don't think it'd be hard. It wouldn't be hard
to invent banks, though, would it. Surely it's just a
but you might be right.

Speaker 20 (49:00):
And I mean in those days you were allowed to
put a room on without having.

Speaker 7 (49:04):
All them.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
All the rigmaroles.

Speaker 15 (49:08):
Yeah, no, it.

Speaker 20 (49:09):
Was amazing, really, And the older ones had all come
home and Christmas. You know, we topp and tail and
three in a double bed top and tail and that
when they come for Christmas and there to back up
at another wooden table.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
And yeah, you must have a lot of nieces and nephews.

Speaker 20 (49:28):
Well, I know my eldest sister had he leave and
we visited her at substate. He was in Bulls and
I went up and visit her then. And I think
her daughter had something like ten or.

Speaker 13 (49:42):
Her oldest daughter.

Speaker 20 (49:43):
But yeah, and the others didn't have such big family, so.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
She enjoyed that shitty Thank you very much. We're talking
about big family, small families, only children? Did you love it?
Tell me about that? All the big families? Much laughter.
They always say, I'm sure there's always few two between
big families. Would there be? I don't know what about
If you want to get in touch with your talk
eight hundred and eighty ten, you're Kevin, it's Marcus. Greetings

(50:10):
and good evening, Hi Kevin, Hi Mark.

Speaker 9 (50:12):
How are you you good?

Speaker 3 (50:13):
Thanks keV.

Speaker 9 (50:14):
I've been listening to your shows and absolutely marvelous good.
They're talking about family trees, are you yeah?

Speaker 3 (50:24):
And family size?

Speaker 9 (50:26):
Well on, well, when I was born with there's only
I was the only one, but I had to adopted brothers.
And I've been doing me Tree, I've given I've got
a level from Nelson and they had Benjamin lovel when
he had thirteen children and one and he also and

(50:49):
in his family, my mother came from that Lovell family.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
Great the levels.

Speaker 9 (50:56):
Yeah, one with family search.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
Oh was it a website?

Speaker 9 (51:01):
Yeah, it's family. It comes from the more than in
America America, and it's a weird side of it. And
they build a tree up and on my one, who'll
come up with famous relatives?

Speaker 21 (51:13):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (51:14):
So I sort of clicked through them. So the first
one I I to just go along and I'll come
across the old presidents. How about President Reservolt?

Speaker 3 (51:23):
You right him?

Speaker 9 (51:25):
Well, he's up on me tree the famous relatives, So
you'll put him in because family sears find them.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Yeah. Yeah, I think I think the Mormons a big
on genealogy because they want to pray for the for
the for the for souls that have passed or that
the dead.

Speaker 9 (51:45):
There's one of them. I thought, if I clicked on
another one, and you're not going to believe this, I
am related to Princess Diana.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
Goodness.

Speaker 9 (51:54):
But Tree's thirteenth cousins something removed now Monroe, Lucy old Ball. Yeah,
well they just found you. We all are to do.
Just click into them and you go and then you've
got a thing called relationship. You press that and that
tells you how many generations I are. It's just fascinating

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all the stuff you get offered.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
Yeah, what do you do with all that information? Now?

Speaker 9 (52:24):
I've got on my on my laptop. But what I'm
doing at home, because I'm a Nelson at the moment,
when I'm doing at home, I get a family tree
paper your and you do it that way on paper,
But I don't know how to do it by a
stick as yet.

Speaker 10 (52:41):
Do you have?

Speaker 3 (52:41):
And the Mormon's website's free as it did? You say?

Speaker 9 (52:44):
Yeah it is. It's called family Search.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Brilliant. Appreciate that, Kevin, thank you. Twenty six to ten,
hold your horses with you, soun It was twenty four
away from ten. Christ It's Marcus Hilla and welcome.

Speaker 8 (52:56):
Good evening, Yeah, Marcus Sales, thanks good, thank you. Hey.
So I'm the youngest of seven. We grew up in
South to Eden. Man was a bit of a legion
really when I look at that old DNA. Yeah, mummm
had three older kids and she had married a Dutchman.
He came out on the boat in the fifties and

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he came from Castificam in the northern part of Holland.
So she had a nighter brother, Simon, and then Teresa
and Rachel, so they were the Vanounces. And it was
in the mid sixties where he had a he had
a nathma attack and at the time mental and wasn't
really advanced, and she came out to the lounge and
found him, found him in an awkward position, and long

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story shorty, he didn't survived. And then shortly after somehow
she met my father who came from an Italian background
and had triplets, so the triple to five years older
than me, effectually known as Richard, Patricia and Thomas or Tom,
Dick and Harriet. And then five years later I popped out.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Wow could you head it all?

Speaker 6 (54:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (54:03):
So he had three older children with the with your
mum and the dutch Man, then the triplets, then two others.
Is that right? Five and three? Is it? The way
it works is that that date? Is it?

Speaker 8 (54:14):
So the older three and then the triple to me,
so seven years yeah, Wow. Yeah, my older brother he's
sixty five, so I'm forty nine. So that's the that's
the brecket. But it's not until we become a day
to day and you start to go ship.

Speaker 7 (54:27):
You know.

Speaker 8 (54:27):
Mom used to buy team I was bred on a Friday,
you know, be gone by Monday. The days of you know,
buying a pie from bloody marlow Street piles. I think
it was only a dollar twenty at pie, but it's
I think it was more around the social interaction sport
provided us that their connection and also Mum never really
talked about her headspace. I think back in the day

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with all that sense of what what did mental health
look like? And the church was a great escape from mom,
you know, that that connection to the church and the
social dynamic that came with it. So yeah, we lost
month to cancer in two thousand and four and Mum
took your last breath in front of us all and
I was tour reguarding at the time and to see
Mum take your last breath was was pretty compelling. Yeah,

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and then years later I became a journalist and then
and wrote a few stories and yeah, it'd be nice,
it'd be nice to call him and a and wherever
they go and just say get a mum here again
and get a bit of a yarn. And so I
think for me it's empathy, it's compassion and those old
school values of you know, getting stuck in and yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
And triplets for anyone are I mean triplets are there
are aren't that many triplets every year? And I mean
triplets are still quite rare.

Speaker 8 (55:36):
Yeah, I think you're right. And I remember the Catholic
school that we went to, Sam Bridget's School in Nansense Bay.
There were triplets there at the same time that my
brothers and sister were there. They were known as the
Fairy triplets and the fairy one to have a means
we were a clothing line in Dunedin. I think Ferry
was a city councilor at the time. So it's not

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until you get old and you start to put the
DNA together and think, you know, bloody hell, how did
um do that? And now being their dad, it's some yeah,
zero empathy forficial.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
And how did the Italian end up in New Zealand.

Speaker 8 (56:11):
That's a great that's a great question because in recent
years as the journalist, I did a story on Valley wine.
So my last name is Valley and I caught up
with a wine maker and a cousin who you know
out of Gibson Valley. Valley Wine is a Grant Taylor,
and I met with him two years ago. He talked
about the immigrants coming out to Central Otago trying to

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find their niche under the wine.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Oh it was wine, Okay.

Speaker 8 (56:39):
Wow, dynasty they came from, Sicily, I believe. So. Yeah,
it's fascinating when you start to really look at how
big the tree got and how diverse it got.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
And did he stay with your mother?

Speaker 4 (56:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (56:52):
So it's not so I got older that I asked
those questions. I think Mum and Dad said bread when
I was seven or eight, And when you start to go,
you know, I don't think having triples was part of
the plan obviously, And I wonder for my father, who
was a truck driver, it it just became too much.
I'm not sure. Those questions were never really answered from
my father.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
But he didn't Did he go back to Italy?

Speaker 8 (57:14):
Now he he a self? He was a self and
colle grew up in Winton.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Oh so who was the Italian? But then you say
it was a Dutch guy there's an Italian guy that
I missed something there wed.

Speaker 8 (57:23):
Me, Marcus. So my father was born himself on but
he came from an Italian liner.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
To understand understand. Okay, yep, that makes more sense.

Speaker 8 (57:31):
That's yeah. I you end up rolling in the book
a couple of years ago, and so when you start
to talk about the family chronological you know, it's it's
it's fascinating, can.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
You obviously be? I mean, that's quite an exciting family
for to be with triplets and two different families and
all sorts of stuff, that's quite dynamic.

Speaker 8 (57:46):
I used to love Christmas time, Marcus. You know we
had those board games of Trivial for Suit and Bloody
Monopoly and they were they were full on, let me
tell you, with.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
A triple triple. So with a triplets, always a team
together or I get sick of each other. They made
the triplets to get sick of being lump together.

Speaker 8 (58:03):
Even my two brothers, we just thought they were just
you know, they thought they were the Disneys, whereas Memosters
they used to the end of bloody early nineties pop
and trying to compare ourselves to Jason and Kylie. And
you know that the two boys. I thought they were
the Disneys.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
Brilliant. Hey, Chris, really nice to talk. Thanks so much
for your call. It's eighteen away from ten Hell and
it's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 22 (58:23):
Oh yeah, hi Marcus. One of my Channel Island and
women ancestors from from the late sixteen hundreds and early
seventeen hundreds had twenty four children and there were several
several twins. But twenty four.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Was it a thing on the Channel Islands. I didn't
expect them to have big families there.

Speaker 8 (58:47):
Oh well they were.

Speaker 22 (58:48):
They were kind of sort of landed, landed gentry type.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Oh I see, okay, they had that, they had the means.

Speaker 22 (58:54):
Yeah, but twenty four. I wonder what shape she was
in at the end of all that. Must have been
a strong woman.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
Yeah, I guess that's well to do that and survive,
because because childbirth was not always the safest thing. I
would have mentioned. No, you have you traced men of
them back? How many?

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Did you know?

Speaker 22 (59:14):
I just know that there were twenty four and I
was still descended from the eldest eldest son and he
came over to England and that's how and then we
went from there. But I haven't really followed up the
rest of the rest of the family.

Speaker 11 (59:31):
But extraordinary, did you say it was?

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Great grand fact? How many fat what year we're talking?

Speaker 22 (59:37):
He came over to England in seventeen twenty eighth.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
It is a long time ago, long time.

Speaker 22 (59:44):
Ago, but anyway, there you go. But I've got several
families on my family tree with large, large families, you know,
one him won and one for instance, married three times
and had children to all of them. So yeah, and
I think a lot of them used to marry young women,

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you know, after the first wife died and then the
marriage to a much younger woman, and then she'd have
all these children and your cheap cargeting of the another
young woman, and must have been pretty tough time for them.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
Yes, okay, thanks, extremely tough, I would think, Helen, thanks
very much for that. Keep it going. Big family, small
family is your family and your story. That's the plan.
Get in touch anything else here for it? Oh, eight
hundred and eighty Taddy nine to nine to text if
you want to be a part of it. Yeah, I'll

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get to the text before too long. I guess the
question was would you rather be in a small family
or a big family, or would you rather have a
small family or a big family. I mentionine, these days
you can with these days you have the choice of
the size of it. You can't necessarily choose if you
can afford it. That's what we're on about. Get in
Touch fifteen from ten Cricket starts at ten thirteen to ten.

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Grego's Marcus.

Speaker 12 (01:01:04):
Good evening, Marcus, how are you good?

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
Thanks Greg.

Speaker 12 (01:01:09):
We're talking about families of a decent size. Yeah, we
had seven in my.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Family counting the parents or seven children. Seven children speak long.
I mean that's free big these day. It's probably not
big in your day, would that be right?

Speaker 12 (01:01:26):
Well, it's my day. I'm younger than you. Yeah, but
that's size family. We're Catholics, though, so you know Catholics
always have generally a few more kids of non Catholics.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
I'd say, yeah, I think you're probably right.

Speaker 12 (01:01:43):
Yeah, it was a good time. I love all my siblings,
so it's been good.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
If you had a family of your own that if
you started to go big or small.

Speaker 12 (01:01:55):
We're on a replacement rate.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Oh yeah, two two Is that what.

Speaker 12 (01:02:00):
You got at the minute, Yes, you did about.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Two point two for replacement. But thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:02:05):
Greg.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
Living away from ten Pete Marcus, welcome Marcus.

Speaker 23 (01:02:10):
Yeah, I still reckon that if you're brought up with
a family. We had six, you know, three brothers and
three sisters, and from mom and dad as well. There's
always things to do, you know. But I was probably
quite lucky because we was on a farm. On a farm,
you never get bored. I'm in town now and you
see these four kids in town. They're bored of them.
You know. They just on the farm. There's always things

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to do. In the springtime you got the calves, and
the summertime you got the haymaking, and there's always things
to do on farms. You know, you don't get bored
on the farms. You watch a brothers and sisters do anything.
You follow them around. You know. Never I was never born.
When I was young, used to go eating and all
sorts of street possums, and it was just a good life,

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really being brought up on a farm.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
How many bedrooms, Yeah, there's only four. Yeah, four, that's
things all right.

Speaker 23 (01:03:03):
Yeah, but we know you got you know, you got
three of the three sisters, but you know, all different
ages and that. But basically you got here just basically
in those days, was you didn't have because your ruins
weren't that big. Shouldn't say it, but we all had
double beds in those days based of them and were
the sisters that they had bunks. The ruins weren't that big,
so you couldn't get two single beds in the basically

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right off, and we slept, you know, not denying that
we slept them, and and double beds of their brothersn't
they just just the way.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
It was turn a bed. Oh wow, Well.

Speaker 23 (01:03:35):
Yeah, that's that's that's that was the era in those days,
because the ruins were small, as I said before, so
you can't unlessily go bunks, but sometimes got windows and things,
and sometimes the rooms not designed to have bunks or
whatever or whatever, so you're not whatever the link they
are didn't but that's that's just what the That was

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quite common in those days. I think that a lot
of people they had double beds and they just shed
the kids. The kids, you know, they don't worry about it.
You just get on the five, don't you. You blither,
You just keep on.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Where were you in the six?

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
There?

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
Pete?

Speaker 23 (01:04:09):
I was the four for one down.

Speaker 8 (01:04:12):
Brilliant.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
Good to hear from your Pete. Thank you nine away
from ten. Gild Simon Dules had a long session as
a cricket commentary, isn't he Oh well, never thought I'd
set the world on fire. But they good on them.
But we're a smithy goodness anyway, that's starting in five minutes.
The odds England to win, and that pays nine dollars.
I'm not encouraging betting. I'm just giving you an indication

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of what's likely to happen. Nine dollars seventy five for
the English to win, forty one bucks for a drawer
and a dollar five for the New Zealanders to win.
Oh yes, so looking good. How often have we won
Tests in England? Dan?

Speaker 24 (01:04:53):
Do you know?

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
Series? Not that often? Apparently I googled it before, I
can't remember what it was. England have never lost the
last two and a arrow of a three match series.
I'll ask chat Ai how many teen series? Many tests?
Series has have en zed cricket one in England? And

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if it tells me, it's pretty good, But it can
be a bit jenky. We've won three Test series in England.
Nineteen eighty six we won one zero, nineteen ninety nine
we won two to one. There was a four match
series twenty twenty one, we won one zero, which were

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a two match series, which doesn't even really count. So
it's pretty good. That's good. I'll take those odds. So
that is us and that's an exciting thing. Yep. Now
we are talking about families in the size of it
and people. I've enjoyed people's enthusiasms for that is a
topic big small, What arek and what do you want? Marcus?

(01:05:59):
Anecdotal story from family members that worked at the Underwood
Heigl in a condensed milk factory, which is an invert
cargol Lawnville, Wallace Town, where the company would give a
large bag of sugar each year to the family with
most children. Two families were roys in tight competition with
fifteen and sixteen children, with a bag of sugar fluctuating
between families. Now, Poppa, you've sent your happy Birthday text

(01:06:23):
to Heather to me, so you need to re send
that otherwise Heather's not going to get it. Worked with
a lady from Milton whose triplets arrived in late two
thousand and nine trumped a Hollywood actress's front page article.
The actress jokely had a rent about it. In a
Graham Norton episode, Marcus, I'm one of twelve kids. It

(01:06:43):
was terrible. My dad was always stressed out, extremely religious
and a real narcissist. Most of our kids suffer from anxiety.
Now HI their dead and Marcus, my ex grandfather was
one of twenty one. Believed or not. I think there
were two or three babies that died. It blew my
mind when I first got my head around it. Finally
I must get the pixie out again. They're amazing. How

(01:07:05):
the hell they cope with many children now? One of
the mum died very young. They all shared beds and
had three quarter double and single beds. I can see
my two sons looking very much like two of them.
Great call from Shirley. Enjoyed that joy jump for joy
dijit seven past ten. They'll be giving you a lot

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more updates on the cricket. England won ten for four.
I'm all over it, but this is the last day.
So yes, I'm all about this tonight and hopefully well
that's not everything I'm about, but I'll get in touch
with any information for you. So that's a situation. But

(01:07:48):
if you want to talk on air, oh eight hundred
and eighty to text. Now we are talking size of families.
Which interesting family down the road around the corner had
nineteen kids used to almost fill the old n Z
Railway school buses all by themselves. Marcus, little question. When

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asking Google or AI a question, do you type in
the search bar include press the microphone and the search
bar easy as I instead press the microphone of the
search bar. Very good, good crowd at the cricket. It's
free on the last day, of course it should be so.
Ben Stokes is retired as you all know. Joe thirteen

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off twelve balls Egay nine off fifteen looks hot and
dry there, that's for sure. Now we are talking about
large families and eagle rays two topics, but the family
one seems we go really really well. So tell us
your giant family story. Marcus, my cousin was married to
Don Oliver. Les Mills was the best man when married Roger. Yes,

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that's interesting because those that grew up at Auckland, Don
Oliver was a real famous name because Don Oliver had
gyms and Le's Mills also had gyms. I think on
Oliver's gyms were more known as weightlifting gyms. Seemed to
be a west Auckland kind of a thing there. So yeah,
he was a big name there. They both were. I
think might still be going down Oliver Fitness. He had

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six gyms, Phillip's Marcus good Evening.

Speaker 17 (01:09:22):
Good Evening. So now going back to family sizes, I
believe it was in the sixties some woman gave birth
to five children in one delivery and became quite famous. Yes,

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I can't remember. They were the Quads, and they were
Women's Weekly were all over there, and Fisher and Pipele
gave them washing machines and dryers and et cetera, et cetera,
and they got pretty much followed for the rest of

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their life. I guess, well until primary school. Does anyone
remember that?

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
I think most people would, Yeah, well you will.

Speaker 17 (01:10:15):
I do, and I was very very young at the time.
I believe they were called the Laws and quin Quads quinns.
I'm not imagining that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Yeah, no, And I don't know how many sets of
Queen's New Zealand has had. You might know that, and
that seems to be your area.

Speaker 17 (01:10:32):
Well, no, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
I think I don't think they were that common.

Speaker 17 (01:10:37):
Oh, definitely not, Marcus. It was in the day that
was that was headline breaking.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
Yeah. Well, I'm just trying to think how many sets
there have been with the New Zealand.

Speaker 17 (01:10:49):
Well that's the only one I know of, is it?

Speaker 9 (01:10:51):
Yep?

Speaker 17 (01:10:52):
Correct? Probably because after that I stopped paying attention.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
Okay, look more into that, Phil, But thank you were
talking about big families. Of course too, the laws and
queens did have their subsequent family treat I think a
book was written about that too. I don't know how
many sets of queens that have been in New Zealand.
That's quintuplets, that's five and of course too they are
more common with well I don't know this, but I

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presume they're more common with. I say AI, but I
don't mean chat gpt ai. No, that's not called that,
you know, reproductive. That's the wrong word for you know,
when you're anyway, that's it called artificial. It's called AI.
I know it's not good. I can't think of the term,

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but I'll get to it. Only one set of quintuplets
in New Zealand's recorded history. Never knew that July twenty seven.
So there we go. That's a situation there. But we
are talking about big families and small families, and what
do you think is the ideal family to be? A

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size of Marcus. I'm the youngest of third. I've seen
six boys and seven girls living on a farm and
happy with what we had. Dad always had a veggie garden,
Mum baked and nothing got wasted, had jobs to do,
played outside, matter on front. Always had good manners and
respect for our elders. Now the issues kid have these days.
Just got on with it. Cheers Janus. It's a big family.

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Is there a wicket? One sixteen for five years? There is?
So let me just tell you the names about who's gone.
I think Gay has gone. Bold Smith gave it an edge,
caught behind by the keeper, didn't have to move much
down on his well, caught it three inches off the ground.
Make that six inches off the ground, so their cocker hoop.

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Much celebrations ensue. That's exciting. So Gay has gone faced
seventeen balls scored, ten caught blundle bald Smith. Third. They've
given up, haven't they. They've got to look at their
ica Ivy is what I was thinking about. They've got
no spirit. That was a soft wicket was to me

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get in touch off your talk on your money is
Marcus welcome. Large families and the cricket or large families,
small families, just families of different sizes. So these are
the discussion so far, and stingrays anything else you want
to talk about, so yes, but be in touch if
you want to partake. I don't know what's happening with

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the ceasefire. By the way, is anyone watching about the
is anyone watching? Is a couple things I'm interested in.
Trump's got a big festival America, and that's a disaster.
He has closed it down already for bad weather. It
looked terrible. It's calling it his own Fire Island Festival.
That's how bad it looked.

Speaker 8 (01:13:43):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
The other thing is is that Kate has just finished
the Three Peaks challenge. Now what I'm interested in is
how no she's climbed the highest mountain in Scotland, England
and Wales within twenty four hours. They must be quite

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close together, are they, because how much much time is
climbing and how much time is driving? But good honor,
it seems like an exciting thing to do, and she
looks happy as I mean, goodness, gracious me to be
out of the palace. They seem to enjoy that. But yeah,
she's done well, but has anyone else done the three
peaks challenge? And do you have to drive quickly? But
if you want to talk about it. But I'm money,

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I'm happy talk about size of families. I'm just curious.
I'll By the way, Wimbledon is on today. They're telling
people not to turn up for day one because they've
already got enough people. A lot of people have just
seen it hoping to buy a ticket. So there's queues
and q's and q's because the weather is sensational. Now
back at your people, Marcus. My husband was the oldest

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of thirteen children, ten boys and three girls, three bedroom
house and three to a beard. Gosh, it's like old
Charlie chocolate factories, grand grandparents, all of the bed together.
My family, my uncle came from a family of twenty
one children, no twins, and they moved every year and
live from the railway houses. The mother also tooking a

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homeless people every new town. All had good careers. Heather
Smith's out. Smith's out on the field. He's not out
of his face. One ball just to re cap England
are one sixteen for five. Now it's off the screen
and I'm pretty sure they're chasing three seven to three,

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So be a maid and wok it over by the side.
There's one more, two more balls to come. And talking
about Les Mills and Don Oliver of course too. We
were great at track and field. We're great at the
throwing events our day, weren't we even? Of course there
was oh there was. There was the guy taped the
thrower too. Who was he? Discus? You might remember this anyway,

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as I say, getting touched you on talk about these
things or anything else. Robin Tate was it? I think
his I think his life. I used to see him.
He used to be at school practicing once upon a time.
I think he was the discus. He died young, So
there we go. But being touching on to talk about
these things, oh gosh, you was dead at forty four,
he said, it is young. So there we go. That's

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a situation. We are talking about tonight eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty and nine to nine tow De texts.
Anything else you want to mention is another wicket he's
going to hand up another work? Is that a replay?
Another wicket? Smith's gone one one, six for six, Smith's gone.
So this is two wickets in this over. Now the
English press will rightfully a roots gone is run out?

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Ah flip, this is laid down, missire. I can see
the headlines now. Ah that shocking. I love a runout.
It's the English getting run out. Goodness me? Four wickets
required to win? See why they made it free. I
just wait for the replay now because Dan says it's
a shocker slow walk out for Atkinson, so they're both
on there. Neither of the bats people are established, were
well down the order. It's one sixteen for six, slow

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walk out. Walk a bit quicker? Show me the replay?
That to me talking to the TV, thinking it's like Google,
I can just talk, it'll happen. Whose call was it?

Speaker 21 (01:17:08):
Then?

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
Was a terrible run out? Was it one of those
runny palsy ones? It apparently it's a complete cluster. So
I just waited to see it again. There's a McCullum.
They were just chewing the nails. The people on the
come on show me that here we go is. Oh,
I'm not going to see a replay, I don't think.
But no, it's just that bad. Probably they're embarrassed too.

(01:17:32):
I'm just trying to wait for the replay people gus
At considers the new batsman, come on, that might be happening.
Let's take a break. I've just rewatched to run out.
It wasn't so much a bed. I think the run
was probably there, but it was extraordinary, but a feeling
my Nickels who ran across and took the ball off
I don't know where he was mat off or something,
and just to return the and hit the wickets dead on.

(01:17:53):
Kind of was slipping back and fell but through it
and it was extraordinary. By the way, there is a
breaking news. Penelope Keith has died at eighty six. You'll
know her from the Good Life and The Manner Born.
She was very very very very very famous actor for
those that watched TV at the seventies in the eighties,
she was always on the good life. The good life
there was there was the hippie couple and the conservative neighbors,

(01:18:17):
and she was the archetype of those. And on to
the Man and Borne I think was the same role.
She should have played an upper class snob. It's good
I don't know that that was her, but that's just
been announced. More to follow. Died peacefully whilst living with cancer.
At her home in Surrey. We should have for fifty years.
So just to reiterate that Dame Penelope Keith, actress has

(01:18:39):
died at eighty six battle with cancer. That's news. It's
just too now if you want to get we've did
very well with talk back in the last couple of hours.
Let's see if we keep going to we're talking about
the size of the ideal size of families. Are you
glad you grew? No one's ever said they had a
bad time in a big family, which would be of
interest to me. But yeah, getting touched you on talk
about this or anything else. And the cricket for those

(01:19:01):
that have chordren to get a cricket, score two wickets
in the last over England one one seven for six.
It'll be over at midnight. This is not going to
go long the English. I just had to be playing
well at all, well, twenty five past ten and you
need two hundred and fifty seven runs two fifty six now,

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I think, so that is not going to happen. Marcus
starting off with gay and route was never going to work.
Go New Zealand. Marcus only had three children due to
a miscarriage, so I'm blessed they are all doing well.
Came from a family of five, my grandmother fourteen. We
learned to look after each other, always have herbs in
the gardens and was taught out together. So crazy Susie.

(01:19:46):
Someone said with a three peaks thing, you need a helicopter.
She drove or she was driven, So there we go.
That's a situation there. So yeah, it wasn't something she drove,
so it must be something you can do. Anyway, back
at your oh, eight hundred and eighty to eighty nineteen
nine to de text, it was not going on. I
can tell you about two day. Sorry, let me just

(01:20:09):
get this right. So in the news breaking news two
from the UK is that Dame peerlerpe Keith has died
aged eighty six. From the good Life which seemed to
be beloved in New Zealand and to the manner Born
which I think was kind of similar, except without the neighbors.
Some of you remember that. I would imagine she tore

(01:20:29):
it often down here for stage chosen stuff. She seems
to be someone that was she always seemed to be
a good sort. So that's happened, and the cricket is ongoing.
One two five for six it's only been going for
half an hour and there have been two wickets. England
are on one two five they need seventy five. They
had a lot they need two five, two five eight

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or so. They're not even close. So the tab has
them New Zealand paying a dollar five to win, England
paying nine dollars seventy five. Well, I imagine the odds
have shifted since because we're the tail order our one
two nine four six. It's a situation there. Get in
touch if you want to talk, and we tal about

(01:21:14):
the size of families. Enjoyed that discussion long may that last.
I was also curious though about the Three Peaks challenge
that Catherine, the Princess of Wales has just managed to complete.
What does that involve you? Because you drive between them?
I just wonder how much driving there is. It seems
to be one of those things that's probably invented for
fund So the Three Peaks, it's the highest mountain in Scotland,

(01:21:34):
England and Wales. But I presume they are not a
million miles away from each other. That would be my
take if you can drive between them, so in that
squat middle part of the country. So there's that by
the way they reckon. If the bird flu comes to
New Zealand ear again, chicken prices could rise. It's confumed

(01:21:57):
and out so Australia. It's also could come to New Zealand.
We've been talking about those rays, those eagle shark. Those
eagle rays have been found in Pottyda. Yep, that's some
of the stuff we've got. Anyway, get in touch Marcus
till twelve if you want to talk about these things.
We're out of the Football World Cup State of Origin
matches ten days away. Matadiki is Friday, the tenth of July.

(01:22:20):
That's not far away. Now, that's not this Friday, that's
next Friday. Then we've got the Commonwealth Games. Then we've
got the general election also on this day. In nineteen ninety,
chloriflora carbons were banned to protect the ozone layer and
it worked very, very quickly. One of those great things
at science showed that they had a problem and they
solved it, which was remarkable. Lesbills has died aged eighty one,

(01:22:45):
sorry ninety one, from Newlyn, although Spender's youth in Graylen
with the Olympic Games in Roman nineteen sixty and the
Commonwealth Games over two decades and the shot put and discus.
He got five medals in the Colm Games, including a
goal in the discus at the nineteen sixty six Games.
Look like a big year in his personal beast for

(01:23:08):
the shop that was the record for forty four years
before was beaten by current news edd Olympian Jack O'Gill
in twenty eleven. Opened his first gym in nineteen sixty eight,
catering to a small community of athletes with a focus
on basic strength and cardio. Started in a basement Jim
So equipped that had alternate days for men and women.
There we go. He became national sports director in Papul,

(01:23:33):
New Guinea from nineteen seventy seventy nineteen seventy nine and
was the mayor of Auckland City from nineteen ninety to
nineteen ninety eight. So it's the first mayor of the
super city, I guess after the amalgamation. That's some of
the information there for you people now if you want
to talk on air about this or families or anything else.
As you realize, all the lines are free, so it'll

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be nice to hear from you. Keep those texts coming, Hi, Marcus,
speaking of large families. In the nineteen fifties. I lived
at a small Canterbury town. We would have been about
eleven years of agent off. For one. One of the
girls in our class never played with the l after school.
We're not and to our mothers explained that our classmates
older brother was sixteen years old in the navy, and

(01:24:14):
her other siblings were triplets age nine, the years old,
twins age seven, triplets again aged five, and twins three
nine under nine kiddie armor. Wow, this big family a
lot of multiple births there. Whales and dolphins. Dolphins are
all catage cetaceans, so all dolphins are whales, but not

(01:24:37):
all whales are dolphins. I think the killor way is
a dolphin, though they get the answer. And that's about
all I need to tell you for now, twenty six
away from eleven and be in touch if you want
to get on the air tonight romance along at midnight.
I'm not sure how that cease far. And the golf
is going, but the petrol seems to be dropping and
everyone seems to be vere very happy of that. And

(01:24:58):
as far as the Football World Cup goes too, another
team is out because they've started having the South death
matches have started for the final thirty two. The first
one of those was between Canada and South Africa, and
South Africa have been sent home, so yes, I was
surprised that they've happened so soon. Of course Canada is

(01:25:19):
one of the home teams, so you're down to thirty
one teams now. And Ben Stokes has retired from cricket
to a mid match. I've got no idea why. No
doubt something will come out with that in his biography,
but that's what happened there, and then came out to
open the Batsman for a bit of a silly knock.
So I don't know what's happened there, but he's in
at the moment one three to three for six. Smith's

(01:25:41):
a bit more established. He's on nine, Atkinson on zero
one three to three for six. The target is three
seventy three. And that's about all I contend at the stage.
So yep, be in touch if you want to talk
on anybody of these topics or something else, I'd be
nice to hear from you if you want to be
a part of it. And if there's any different stuff

(01:26:02):
you're on to talk abet, that's fine by me. Also, too.
You might have all gone to watch the cricket. Just
make sure I'm up to everything. Also, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
No drama on the roads, no snow anywhere I can see,
no road closed as I can see. Malaysia's extended the
search for m H three seven zero for another year,
keeping family hopes alive. What are I hoping for? Wow,

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so that's happening. Forgotten about that. Not much wood on
air India. The crash there is there that's clearly not straightforward.
I don't know what's going on there one three, three
for six things. I've said that two dot balls from Smith.
I'm just seeing the other news I need to give
you anyway, being touched twenty two away from eleven o'clock,

(01:26:47):
twenty away from eleven. As I've said, all the lines
are free for want to come through and have your
chat tonight. It'd be nice to hear from you. Not
what I mentioned. Some of the weekend sport too was
a it was a one sided netball final. I thought
it was an exciting Warriors match in fed. A lot
of the league matches over the weekend we're exciting. I
did watch the football. I'd forgotten about that. Seems like
a long time ago. I watched New Zealand play Belgium

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and didn't look good did it? Five to one? I
think it was the good goal from just but the
other four were well. Everyone was an expert after the
event about what had done wrong. People were blaming everyone.
But yeah, it's a shame we went out there and
lost our composure. So it could have looked like it
was a good performance. But that five to one was
a bit of a beating. So that's the situation I

(01:27:30):
forgot there was in the weekend too, So three thirty
big sporting events. Now what else can I tell it? Well,
in the cricket totally be going for thirty five minutes
and we've already got two wickets, so England won three
seven four six, and I imagine we've got another six
or seven hours today. But I need your calls for
this final hour and a half. So we are talking

(01:27:52):
about size of Oh, by the way, a raw the
bowl up. He's done his hammy, so he's been subbed.
So that's the situation there. He's subbed off and I
will keep you updated with that too. But yes, but
if you want to talk on air, that's the whole
plan for tonight, or text or email, I'd love to
hear from me. We'll have to say, Marcus. In the

(01:28:12):
eighties my dad had a fish business here and his
mate were looking at using stingray wings to make leather goods.
Plenty of rays in the Monaco. I don't know if
anyone commercially fishes for rays or not, or what the
market is. I imagine there'd be some country where it'd
be a huge market for them. I know you can
eat the wings. I just don't necessarily know that they're

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that's sought after in New Zealand. I suspect I have
eaten the past, but can't really remember about it. A
lot of food there though, but the whales don't like that,
or the killer whales. They just go for the liver.
I don't know how to cook stingray. You might know
how to cook it. Next thing will be farming them.
By the way of seeing. In America there is a
movement to start harvesting eating mannatese. Aren't they amazing things?

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Don't really know much about manatees. Every time I see videos,
although I think jeeps creepers, they just seem so slow.
I don't know if I read something that that. Oh,
I wait, say what they related? But look, I need
your calls to night seventeen away from eleven Hea L
twelve anything else that you want or want to mention.
That's the plan for tonight. Wimbledon starts tonight, Marcus. I'm
one of nine kids. They range from sixty seven years

(01:29:17):
to fifty years old. Love my big fan. We've always
been quite close, not on your doorstep type of close,
but know what's going on via someone never had cross
words with one another. I couldn't imagine not having lots
of siblings. Just love it. Maybe what about people that
are only children? They often say that's a tough time
because it can be a lonely time. I imagine it's

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more and more common these days with smaller families and
smaller houses, and they like Oh. The other interesting thing
too is that road workers in Dunedin have found an
old cable car track, which is interesting, all still underground there.
Groove and chain they call it. But yeah, this isn't
actually that clear on there. It must be an extension

(01:30:01):
for a cable car. So just putting that out there
doing some row works, And I think they've always known
it was there, but yeah, a few people have sent
me that story. That's happening also too. So yeah, now
one at three nine for six two office over Etkinson
on two Smith on thirteen. And that's what I can

(01:30:22):
tell you for tonight now if you want to add anything,
if you've got any other calls. Yeah, And they're telling
wimbled and people not to arrive looking for a ticket.
Some would have queued overnight, but the early morning rush
is understood to been caused by the rise of e bikes.
It used to be the case of anyone on the
first District Line tube of the day into Southfield Stage.
We've virtually guaranteed it a ground pass ticket, but lying

(01:30:45):
bikes and the like made it possible for people to
arrive in the early hours of the morning of Jordan'
need parking. Would you many of those queuing overnight would
have been planning on grabbing a Number one court ticket
to watch Emma. I can't pronounce you name, remember Radusanu.
But those hopes were dshed by the British Number ones
late night withdrawal on Sunday, so ten true way eight

(01:31:08):
thirty advising people who about to set off don't sit
off to travel. It's not going to happen fifteen to
eleven hit or twelve. It's twelve from eleven people and yeah,
what have you got? What have you got to save
yourself's people? Another oval, it's the things that another made
in over one three, nine four six with the cricket.
For those that don't know, we've lost the first Test

(01:31:30):
one second and look like we're almost certain to win
the third. And this would be the first time with
one a series when we've won the last two matches.
That seems to be the case. I think it's only
the third or the fourth time have won a series
in England, so it's quite historic. It's a beautiful day
there with a big crowd there too for the farewell
of the captain. So that's what's happening there. I can

(01:31:53):
tell you. That's heart of the tape. But if you
want to talk on any that would be my major
ambition for tonight. We'd love to hear from you twelve
away from eleven if there's something different you want it.
We've talked about eagle rays and all those eagle rays
washing up at Port Dua. We're also talking tonight about
families and what the size of your family was and
how you think that affected you?

Speaker 10 (01:32:12):
Was it big?

Speaker 3 (01:32:13):
Was it small? Many people rung up with big families
and found it quite interesting. Although I think those size
families maybe too expensive.

Speaker 6 (01:32:22):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:32:23):
I don't know if the numbers backed it up, but
I feel like that expensive to get the house for
all to live, and expensive to actually get the food
to survive. So yeah, that's a situation. We are talking
aboubout that also too. And someone said via email the
year was nineteen eighty six. I'm sure it's the only
year the black Caps beat England and Australia in a

(01:32:46):
calendar year. Can the Golden double happen again in twenty
twenty six? We haven't beaten Australia this year, though, have we? Seneil?
Maybe you know nine from eleven? Hello, Andy, it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 21 (01:33:01):
Yeah, how's we go on?

Speaker 14 (01:33:04):
Now?

Speaker 21 (01:33:04):
The crooker is exciting, it's it's good. Yeah, and I'm
the angest of six.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
But oh, that's a big crowd.

Speaker 21 (01:33:17):
Getting back to the cricket, Marcus, I think you'll find
there's another test to come. Oh oh, I think I
picked that up soufternoon that really this is the last Oh,
so I think it could turn around and square the series.

Speaker 3 (01:33:39):
Ok now, and please someone has told me that.

Speaker 21 (01:33:42):
Yeah, I've been listening to you thinking yeah, and I
thought that's about bizarre that there's four and not three anyway,
But that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:33:54):
I'm just looking. I'm looking at the fixtures now yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:33:57):
Yeah, what I say?

Speaker 7 (01:34:02):
Am I wrong?

Speaker 4 (01:34:06):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:34:06):
This is the last? Then I think England going to
play India. Oh, I think we played banglad This does
seem to be the last.

Speaker 21 (01:34:16):
Well that might seem yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
You know, but often I've sat here and said the
wrong thing and then someone will correct with think jeep
and scrapers. But I wonder where you got that information from.
Well on the radio, trust here on the radio.

Speaker 12 (01:34:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
No, So I think if we win this, this is history.
I mean this is a big deal. Yeah, I think, so.

Speaker 21 (01:34:40):
Keep it up.

Speaker 3 (01:34:41):
I think I think we tour of the West Indies
next Andy on the way home. Yeah, I guess, well,
where's home for them? There's another wicket to by. Looks
of things set in a loud appeel gone upstairs, ref
not showing any excitement. Yeah, I appreciate you coming through
the Indian It's kind to do that. Put me out
of a misery, pettit's Marcus. Good evening. Hi, I'm good, thank.

Speaker 8 (01:35:05):
You Pet, very good.

Speaker 19 (01:35:08):
Little family had ten girls and six boys.

Speaker 21 (01:35:12):
How to go?

Speaker 3 (01:35:13):
Tell me the order to tell me?

Speaker 19 (01:35:14):
The six ten girls and six boys.

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
It didn't go. It didn't go go go go go
go go go go go go go go.

Speaker 19 (01:35:23):
Boy boy boy boy boy, one boy, a twin to
the boy and a.

Speaker 3 (01:35:28):
Girl boy boy girl yep, and a boy a.

Speaker 19 (01:35:32):
Girl, a girl, and there was another sea of twins
two girls.

Speaker 3 (01:35:38):
Wow, where'd you fit? Would you come up?

Speaker 19 (01:35:41):
The eldest? But it was good. There was always someone
to talk to. And you know, mum was a bit
short of money and didn't have money for a sandwiches
for school. Should get up early in the morning and
make three or four batches of scans. We never ever
went hungry, only ether, just least there for a meal

(01:36:04):
to the older always someone mate.

Speaker 3 (01:36:07):
Did the oldest end up having to do more work?

Speaker 19 (01:36:09):
No, not really, because with the girls we were sort
of inside vacuuming and polishing floors and bitzeres and the
boys worked out hard with dead Was.

Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
It country or was it county country or in a
city in.

Speaker 19 (01:36:25):
The city right in nature? Well, with the big house
finished up seven bedrooms they had sort of dormitory to
the girls.

Speaker 3 (01:36:39):
Yeah, because these days you couldn't. These days, you couldn't
put on that many bedrooms all the time. Could You
couldn't get the conceited or have the land to do it.

Speaker 19 (01:36:47):
No, that's what I was saying the other day. They
probably wouldn't meet you do it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:51):
No, And I imagine by the time the youngest come around,
the oldest had left home, had they No? Wow?

Speaker 19 (01:37:00):
No, the oldest one, Oh, he must have been nearly twenty.
He worked at Kaipois so and writer.

Speaker 3 (01:37:07):
Oh yeah, it's a massive family.

Speaker 19 (01:37:11):
Yeah, but we all had our job, so we went
allore to go to our sports on Saturday until we'd
done the housework.

Speaker 3 (01:37:20):
You need to be and how did the meals preparation
go good?

Speaker 19 (01:37:23):
We had to cook for Sunday night by ourselves, so
we knew how to cook when we left time.

Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
Had to cook for eighteen not when we left time,
but on a Sunday you have to cook for that.

Speaker 19 (01:37:37):
Many people just take hours to do the buds.

Speaker 3 (01:37:45):
Would there be two people had.

Speaker 16 (01:37:46):
To do it?

Speaker 19 (01:37:47):
No, we used to do it by ourself Sunday night.
But every other night. We had to give him and help.

Speaker 3 (01:37:54):
Your mother didn't work, did she?

Speaker 18 (01:37:56):
Oh?

Speaker 19 (01:37:56):
And then again she did part time, but it was
mainly helping people. She was little, look younger than all
of us.

Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
Really, what year we taught? We're talking in the nineteen fifties.

Speaker 19 (01:38:13):
I started in the fifties. I was born. It was
before that because I was forty eight and I had
the twins and the brother or two brothers.

Speaker 3 (01:38:24):
Older than goodness, So how much aged between the oldest
and the youngest.

Speaker 19 (01:38:32):
Forteen years?

Speaker 3 (01:38:33):
Oh Ue, it's not many. It's not wow, that's free.
That's three very close together, isn't it.

Speaker 19 (01:38:40):
But you'd never ever think mama's had that many. She
wore fruits most of the time and never even looked
as if she'd had any.

Speaker 3 (01:38:49):
It's unbelievable. Pet, thanks so much for that. Get in
touch if you want to talk after the news, oh
eight hundred and eighty tell me. Then we just recap
the cricket before I go to the commercials. There's been
too quick wickets to about the first twenty minutes. England
are one fifty for six. They need three seven three,
so two wickets were within one over. So it's looking

(01:39:09):
like it's going to be a victory for New Zealand,
you'd hope. So it's the tail end now that we're
just onto. That's the situation. That's what we are talking about.
If you want to add to this discussion, good, we're
talking also about the size of families and stingways. There
we go, England. Require I think it's two eighteen or

(01:39:32):
two twenty to one. Let me just confirm that. I
think it's two eighteen. But back at your people who
want to talk here till twelve o'clock. We've got the
rest of the day, arrest the cricket match to do it.
Joyet's Marcus good evening.

Speaker 25 (01:39:44):
Yes, I come from certainly the seven boys before me,
and then it was a boy girl boy. And my
dad died when I was seven, and yeah, this one
was six months old. My mother brought us all by

(01:40:07):
and there were to need to Wadow's pensions around in
those days, and my nister swapped the coupons for sugar
and butter for meat. And then my mother died at
fifty eight, and my youngest brother was fourteen. But we

(01:40:30):
all got home very very well, very close. When I
take close, when you know anything went wrong, we were
just worm all together, you know, that type of family.
And I had two brothers that were away in the

(01:40:52):
JAP force with peacekeeping.

Speaker 6 (01:40:56):
And then.

Speaker 25 (01:41:00):
My dad had a business and my mother's brother came
in and helped her to sell the businesses because in
those dates women never handled the money. So the two
brothers that came back from Jabot, they were not very

(01:41:24):
happy when the business were sold because they got it
carried on with it. But my mother had, you know,
lovely sisters and a brother who actually made my sister's clothed.
And there was no wheat fruit beg thinks like that.

(01:41:51):
In every weak my mother would buy a box of
apples and if you were hungry, you were told don't
get an apple or bread and dropping. But we were happy.
We weren't allowed to play until all work was done.

(01:42:14):
But yes, really had a happy life. Can't resily complain.
But it was sad that my mother never had a
life after because at fifty she died cancer.

Speaker 3 (01:42:33):
It was a fourteen year old did you did you?

Speaker 17 (01:42:36):
Did you?

Speaker 21 (01:42:37):
Did?

Speaker 3 (01:42:37):
She own the house?

Speaker 13 (01:42:40):
It belonged to.

Speaker 25 (01:42:43):
An uncle, okay, and that house is still standing, which
we a friend. We went on a little teaching to
on Friday and where we lived. We went looked at
her house where she lived, and I said, let's go

(01:43:08):
down now and have a look to see where I
was brought up. And it looks like one of the
bitch houses in the street. And my dad had a
woodyard and used to get all the wood from Bottle

(01:43:28):
Lake Hospital when there was a big fire. Then that's
where he got all the wood. And across the road
from us woods and woodyard and there were just all
stacks and stacks and stacks and wood. And then they
my brothers and my dad they used to cut the

(01:43:52):
wood into blocks because in those days most people had fireplaces,
and that today naturally to wood. I'd gone, there's some
homes built him there and it we're all gated up.

Speaker 11 (01:44:16):
Now, So.

Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
Joy, I presume this is christ whereabouts was the house? Okay?
And here's another Christian. When your brother was fourteen and
your mother died, was he able to stay at the
house or was he sent to a foster home?

Speaker 25 (01:44:35):
Oh no, no, no, he went with one of the aunts, okay.

Speaker 17 (01:44:40):
And what it was were.

Speaker 25 (01:44:44):
My sister and three brothers. There were still a time, yes,
but then they had to go out boarding, and that
by that time I was married and living in the country.

Speaker 6 (01:45:01):
Yes, so.

Speaker 25 (01:45:04):
I say our place you to back onto the wick
the gold things. We wouldn't. We were not allowed to
go out the gate.

Speaker 13 (01:45:18):
In place.

Speaker 25 (01:45:20):
We could go at the back. We had a big
section and go out to where the Golflences is and
when jordan O life there because the boys had to
look after me, and because when we were into the beach,

(01:45:44):
make sure what look did look after me too.

Speaker 2 (01:45:48):
And then it was.

Speaker 25 (01:45:50):
Lovely part here which was called Thompson's Park and had
a bend under still there. But then there were gardents
all around us that they're all gone now not history.
And we all went through north near Bryant School. Yeah,

(01:46:13):
it's quite a bit of history really. And then at
the end of bail for Roads there's a big brick
that called the Community Hall. Now there was not the
community hall.

Speaker 5 (01:46:32):
It was built.

Speaker 25 (01:46:34):
It's called the War Memorial Hall, and that was built
when the soldiers came back from war. We were really
quite close knit community.

Speaker 10 (01:46:51):
You know.

Speaker 25 (01:46:52):
We had the cup Club down there and yeah, so
I could tell you even today while we had every
night put it's got very very well.

Speaker 3 (01:47:10):
Yes, what did you have, what did you have mainly
what we normally have.

Speaker 25 (01:47:16):
Well, on Sunday she'd cook a roast and then Sunday
night we have the seller and the next night we
would have the cold meat that had months start because
from those days you used to get big leagus of

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mountains or whatever it was in your way should make
your cheaper spire. And then we'd have carried saufrages.

Speaker 10 (01:47:52):
We have.

Speaker 25 (01:47:54):
Some chops, and then we had chickens given to some
and some block the chops. So he had chocks and
didn't we have I'm trying to think now, but he

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used to know every thing that we ate, and we
ate good milk, wholesome milk.

Speaker 17 (01:48:23):
I didn't.

Speaker 25 (01:48:24):
The problem today it's the young ones. I don't know
how to go any economize and there was not a
lot of tin food or parts desire anything like that
around them. So always used to make lovely students. And yes,

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I'm trying to you.

Speaker 3 (01:48:56):
Are you big? Are you begging christ Judge now Joey.

Speaker 12 (01:48:59):
Yes, yes, I am okay, I believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:49:02):
The enjoy a bit nice to talk to you. Thank you.
Thought there's another work in the cricket that was then appeal,
but that wasn't given one, five, eight, four, six for
this hopingful victory sixteen past eleven o'clock romance Here at twelve,
we're too much size of families with It'd rather be
in a big family or a small family. Marc's'm the
youngest of five will be eighty one in a few months.

(01:49:24):
Eldest sister will be ninety a month later. We are
all still alive, Marcus. The English team are known to
be good betters right down to number ten. However, the
way they are going currently seems to have us in
the box. Eat Dallas, chairs, Dallas. I grew up with
eight brothers and sisters. Growing up, there was two kids
in every bedroom. I never slept alone until I got married.

(01:49:45):
Someone says was was The Good Life? A better show
than George and Mildrede? Are you being served? Some others
do have them? The young ones, I think not, Oh,
each to their own. They're very likable characters, the two
of them. I thought he had that nice smile. I
thought the characters themselves drove it. You all thought was
pretty good. I thought it was very good. Actually of
its time, pretty much about English manners in class and

(01:50:10):
snobbery Maine. It was about wasn't it. No, that was good, Marcus.
I've enjoying tonight's topic on family size. I'm wonder for child.
My late husband was one of thirteen. His mother still
cooked on the coal range when I met him in
the seventies. They were a sporty, fun family. They always
had enough for cricking or anything ready. I enjoyed endless
celebrations over the years with them, of birthdays, weddings and campings, holidays.

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They always just got on with it even though they
didn't have excess wealth. They are resourceful and resilient. Close
family Listening to Tonight's story and larger families that just
reinforces the offer over indulgence of some children today who
also don't have resilience either. Sadly, cheers Chris, Thank you, Chris.
Nice to hear from your twenty six past eleven. Hello Michael,

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it's Marcus. Welcome and good evening, are you Marcus?

Speaker 16 (01:50:54):
Good any to you? It's going to talk about trains
in two places.

Speaker 3 (01:50:58):
Sure?

Speaker 16 (01:51:00):
Have you been much on the train line from Wellington
New Plummers?

Speaker 3 (01:51:06):
Yes, not many times, but I have done it.

Speaker 16 (01:51:09):
Yeah, back in the Blue Street days I did it.
But there's a group meeting at the Parliament tomorrow at
two forty five, and they're taking some petition and they
want to try and get that passenger service reinstated.

Speaker 3 (01:51:23):
I have thoughts, I guess. I mean the advantage they
have got is that how far does the urban Wellington
trains go to that. I know they go occasionally once
a day to Palmerston. But the regular that go as

(01:51:44):
far as or Tucky do they.

Speaker 16 (01:51:47):
Or the what do they call it? The Capital Connection
does like Parmersan North, Yes to Arlington, and then you've
got the Northern Explorer that goes to like Auckland and
then I mean I grew up in that area. I'd
love to have a passenger service back to you from
a just one like Scenic Purple.

Speaker 3 (01:52:06):
How out of the community the community trains that go
for As or Tucky today they go to a part
of part of UMU they go to can I okay,
So if you're just over the year, because I imagine
now with transmission gully and stuff, that more and more
people are moving out to that coast. I mean, I
mentioned over the next fifty years, you could just slowly
extend that and get it as far as one And

(01:52:27):
I think you Plymouth would be a big stretch from
the beginning.

Speaker 16 (01:52:30):
Okay, what do you think? Oh well, I love the idea,
but I might be like tourism, like going through the
area for them Mount Taranaki in that.

Speaker 25 (01:52:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:52:43):
I mean I always say, and people hate me for it,
but I always think that what can a train do
that a bus can't do?

Speaker 16 (01:52:51):
Oh I love the train better because you can have
it on board cafe, you can have the carriage, you've
got the toilets. I like to train any day over
a bus.

Speaker 3 (01:53:02):
Yeah, but you look how much more you've got to make.
I mean, the buses run on roads all exists, don't they.
Whereas trains you've got to I guess you say the
railway tracks always or exist, but you don't need to. Yeah,
you need to build stations and rolling stock and the likes.
But I mean it'd be nice to have, and it'd
be nice to plan long term, but I don't I
don't think it's going to happen anytimes when they're still

(01:53:22):
desperate to try and get that one between Auckland and
Auckland Hamilton functioning. I think that's hard work to get
people on that.

Speaker 16 (01:53:29):
Yeah, and they want to extend its tower on the two.

Speaker 3 (01:53:34):
Makes I think. I think that makes sense when the
thirty or forty years, because you know there's about two
million people in those three places. Okay, Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:53:43):
Also, I think time I've got to talk about and
the United Arab Emirates eating hard rail by starting up
the I think it happens tomorrow. There are the train
service and the and the UE really really and it's
they won't be a super fast like in Europe. It's
only like two hundred klometers. But I think the inaugural

(01:54:03):
train starts tomorrow between Abi Dhabi and Dubai or it's
quite a bit further. But they've been working on it
for quite a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:54:12):
High speed rail between Abu Dhabi and Fujira. Yeah, I
had I had no how did you know about? I
had no idea in the UE that any part of
Arabia can we call it Arabia. They're functioning on no
idea about that.

Speaker 16 (01:54:27):
Yeah, they want to extend it into Saudi Arabia and
then into Oman. I think I like the UE, and
I'm always love trains too, and I've been I've been
making that trick for quite a while.

Speaker 3 (01:54:41):
And I would imagine with the topography stand and deser.
It's pretty easy to put railways in, isn't it just
laying it on the.

Speaker 16 (01:54:47):
Have you been to the EUI between Abi Dabi and Dubai. Yeah,
it's like the motorway. It's like one hundred and forty k's.
When you drive on the motorway, it's like the speed limit.
And I think the train would be really cool. You know,
I love trains.

Speaker 3 (01:55:00):
It's a great idea. I'm liking that a lot. Okay,
I'll read about that, Michael, thank you. There we go.
We're trends. Call before the end one seven, three four
six two hundred. They need to get Marcus. I liked
George and Mildred. With George decide to have a bath
and the lounge and a tin bath. He'd just gone
when Mildred and lady friends bowled the lounge sot to
right out of the water. After my complaint to point

(01:55:25):
Shavilli a new world, the delivery manager lowered the price
they bought eggs from two twenty five forty nine. You're welcome, Glenn,
Thank you, Glenn. Ridiculous price. Hello, Paul, it's Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 24 (01:55:38):
I wouldn't get too excited about the rail, the underground
rail and walkin My rates are gone up seven point
eight percent.

Speaker 3 (01:55:45):
It was so I think I think people. I think
people get excited about it, Paul. I think it's quite
an exciting thing, Paul.

Speaker 24 (01:55:53):
But yes, how can you say that exciting thing when
it's fatching.

Speaker 3 (01:55:59):
But they were if they if they rated it better
in time and they changed the density, they could make
that money back. That's what they've got to do.

Speaker 24 (01:56:08):
They will never make it back, of course, they will
never make it back. It'll run on a restricted timetable.
It's costing two hundred million a year just to maintain
and that's it. And ork and rate payers are being
socked a nextraor three hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:56:24):
I think most rate payers are quite excited about it.
I've spoken to well, the ones.

Speaker 9 (01:56:28):
I've spoken to our point, you're out of touch.

Speaker 3 (01:56:33):
I'm not out of touch politically. I'm actually speaking here
in touch, talking to people for twenty hours a week.
So actually, probably there anyone is in touch. It's probably me,
I would say, Paul. But will you will you write
since you're paying for it, will you write it?

Speaker 8 (01:56:50):
Hardly?

Speaker 3 (01:56:51):
That's well you if you're paying for it, you may
as well. But what's the I mean, well, you'd be retired,
are you.

Speaker 24 (01:57:00):
I'm a pensioner, so I will get a free ride.
But what's the point. I mean, it's so and you're
running from downtown to K Road.

Speaker 3 (01:57:08):
I mean, oh, that's you know, but Paul, that's not
that's a misunderstanding, And that's a misunderstanding of how the
rail system works because of that loop.

Speaker 24 (01:57:17):
No, look, it's because.

Speaker 3 (01:57:20):
Hang on, hang on, Paul, Because of that loop, it
means that the whole rail system becomes infinitely more efficient.
And you know that you're just being disingenuous.

Speaker 17 (01:57:30):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 24 (01:57:31):
The previous overseer of the whole project said that been
it's too much overspending.

Speaker 3 (01:57:38):
Yeah, but he was right. He was widely ridiculed for
those statement statements. Also, there was there was who's who,
There was much. I'm just into a screaming match this
time of the night. You're not into it fair enough,
you know, But that's that's fine. Don't catch it. Let's
not let's not do anything. Let's just start not do anything, Okay,
jee creepers.

Speaker 1 (01:58:00):
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