Next step might be to buy one (13 May 2026)

Marcus talks whether more rules are needed for riders of e-scooters and e-bikes, and remembers the 1995 win of the America's Cup.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus lush Night's podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'd be.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Greetings, good all, and welcome. My name is Marcus. I
hope it's good where you are here till twelve o'clock tonight.
YIPPIEI A what's happening? We'll find out soon. I suppose
what's happening? What's going to happen? Yeah? Oh, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty and nine to nine to the texts.
You want to be a part of it, looking forward

(00:33):
to what you've got to say? AnyWho Oh, eight hundred
eighty tenny and nine two nine to the text. A
few things happening tonight. I hope you have a few
will but it will be happening also as we go
on tonight. But get in touch if you want to
enjoy doing some reading day about harbor crossings. Everyone's got
an opinion on harbor crossings. Anyway, feel free to come

(00:55):
through if you want to talk first up topic, that's
probably something that some of you might want to say
or talk about. The AA has called for tighter rules
on e bikes and e scooters. They're kind of the

(01:18):
car carons are. They've got an opinion on everything. They
just seem to be killed joys anyway, So there we go.
But I know people have some anxiety about that with
powerful e bikes and the like. And I think there's
a trend with e bikes getting more and more powerful
and people using them. But like motorbikes, you know, like
young people they haven't got their licenses, but they're getting
them in doing wheel stands and the like, but stronger rules.

(01:40):
They're talking about keilor watts and all sorts of things
in the article. And yeah, I don't know what you
want to say about that. There are scooters that claim
to do one twenty kilometers per hour. I have to
admit that I don't live in a place where we
have those scooters you can hire, but some people have
them for private. We haven't got the flamingos or the limes.

(02:01):
But I'm curious to know if you think we've kind
of got a happy spot. Once upon a time there
was hysteria around these things. The scooters came out, the
limes and the flamingos, and goodness gracious for me, that
was talkbauck ketnap. People would say, oh my god, oh
my god. And then what happened was COVID came along

(02:21):
and everyone went quiet because there were bigger fresh fish
to fry. And then once COVID was over, everyone was
happy to be outside and no one much complained about
the scooters anymore apart from AA, and they're back on
about it now because as batteries get bigger, these things
go faster and faster. They are good. I mean, they're
fantastic to get around. Although I say where I live

(02:42):
we don't have them. Every time I am away in
somewhere where there is scooters, I would use those instead
of taxis. I mean they're a lot better and quicker,
and you're not involved with conversations. So yes, that's the plan.
People who want to talk Marcus till midnight to night,
we'll start on that and there'll be other stuff we
want to talk about. If you want to be a

(03:02):
part of it. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
nine two nine two text. But that's wrong. So by
the way, Timadoo, there's a mystery smell and e Cans
is looking into that. So if you'd Timudou and you
are or wherever a mystery smell, there might be a
mystery to you. But anyway they are looking into it.
I think quite often there's talks of Timodoo and a

(03:24):
mystery smell. So yeah, these are not good headlines because
I know in some ways I think I don't know
if this is true, but I'm pretty sure I saw
figures this week that said the Timadoo's populations and going gangbusters.
I think probably Rolliston is charging ahead and Temudoo's kind
of on the back burnery of it. A story like

(03:45):
this is not going to help. I think last time
it was the meatworks at Washdike that caused the smell,
So anyway, that's happening there. So it's about East Cooter's
and smells. So far, that's what we've got to get
going to it. If you want to be first in
to get the whole situation kicked off, I'd like to
hear from your oh, eight hundred and eighty ten, eighty
nine to nine to detect if you want to come

(04:07):
through looking forward to what you want to say. He's
an interesting article how to clean your kids' mouthguards during
sports season. They'd be right when they check them in
the dish washer. I think the kids ever clean them,
do they? Anyway, there's something else you want to mention
if you've got any breaking news where you are, signs
of wallabies, signs of I don't know what could be
the news tonight. I'm sure they have something, but come through.

(04:29):
Want to start off talking about es scooters and should
they be more better policed E scooters and e bikes? Yeah,
I mean the trouble as anything looks like a lot
more bureaucracy to try and get them registered and stuff
like that. It would ruin the joy of them, I think,

(04:49):
kind of, you know, and as it's going really really bad,
just leave it like it is. But the AA always
have a fretty miserable tech, a miserable take on everything.
I mean, I mean, I guess they aren't a car
advocacy group, but yeah they are. They always seem to
be slightly pessimistic in their outlook and slightly caring us.
I suppose it's st a word I should use as
it slightly anyway, welcome, feel free to come through. Twelve

(05:12):
past eight, Good evening, cal This is Marcus. Welcome in
good evening, Good evening.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
Yeah. If the AA is sort of looking at east scooters,
well they also need to be looking at the old
starts and the mobility scooters, because some of them, as
soon as they get in their scooters, they're turned into
absolute road hogs. They expect pedestrians that immediately get out
of their way, and they're haunting their silly little horns
and it's like, oh, it's they turn into absolute road hogs,

(05:42):
and it's get them away. I'm a mobility scooter. I've
got a right of way.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Well look, I'm loving your passion. Caw.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
Where are you so talklands?

Speaker 3 (05:51):
You've seen them, yes, and on the footpath? Are on
the road, Well they're on the footpath, but of course,
but because they're in the mobility scooter.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
They think they have right of way and any of
the other pedestrian has to get out of the away.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Are they governed? Do you what governed means? So it's
just only say that because it would have only just
known that. Do you know what governed means?

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, So they've got a limit that up a limit
mobility scooters governed?

Speaker 4 (06:18):
I don't know. But it's it's not just the speed
they're doing. It's it's the attitude of the people in them,
because they're turned into absolute road hols and think they
have right away on the footpath just presuming a mobility scooter.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
You kind of can't call. Can you understand the mentality
of those people? They might have like their mobility is
gone and they've got the walking stick and the knees have gone,
and suddenly they've been given this mobility scooter and it's
like wow, there's a whole world out there. And they
get on there and they thank goodness, gracious me, let's
go for it.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Yeah, they can go for it, but they shouldn't have
this attitude. Is because I'm out on my footpath even
where now get out.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Of my way.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah, okay, look like they're so impatient once they're in
these scooters.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Okay, well look more of it. We'll investigate cal thank you.
E scooters, mobility scooters, e bikes. I don't like the
people on the e bikes because they're bell happy, because
most of them are driven cars for fifty years and
telling on the e bikes and oh gosh, they're like
the cat that's got the cream bolt up right and
the reflect again. Ding ding ding, passing, ding ding ding ding.

(07:21):
They love it. You've done that walkway around Taranaky, around
your plymouth, around the foreshore, ding ding ding passing ding
ding ding ding. I guess they're I guess they're over courteous,
which is fine. I suppose it's a good thing. And
there in the scheme of things. Edit's Marcus, good evening.

Speaker 6 (07:38):
Marcus here. I do not comment on the e skinners
and e bikes. It's more acc injury in Australia. A
lot of them can really hurt on his bikes and
e bikes as studs. It's acc in Australia. Everyone's getting
badly hurt but not not got a safety here on

(08:00):
but duiced in black you can't see the bikes of
the tricks. It's real safety issue. And Australia is to
crushing a lot of e bikes and Australian being them.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Hang on, there's a lot of noise coming at me
from you.

Speaker 6 (08:14):
What do you say a lot of them in Australia
have been them and crashing.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Are you saying in Australia they've banned them or abandoned them.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
They're going to band them crushing them up now there's
been too many excellents on them. Really we heard this
so we well Beck from the radio actually interesting, Hey,
I know it.

Speaker 7 (08:39):
I was.

Speaker 6 (08:41):
In your session. It's on the news, cracking.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Down, cracking down, cracking down on illegal high powered and
modified e bikes.

Speaker 6 (08:48):
Yeah yeah, yeah, they're going to crush them. They're take
them for oaths. Yeah, illegal, and we want to readis
of them so then find out where the people come
from when we get hurt. And it makes sense, you know.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
So, because they are pretty much like the modern ones
the teenagers want are pretty much like trail bikes, aren't they.

Speaker 6 (09:12):
Well, my grandson's got one on the farm and I
tell you what, I hopped on the nine e K
within six minutes. It's real quick. And then lift for
We were real quick on those those motorbike ones. And
they should be young constrierable licenses, road sts. We've got
no road seats.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
You only license for a bike though, do you for
a pushbike you have?

Speaker 6 (09:34):
If you're talking about e bikes and powered bikes, they
should be made to go for a test to get
on the road and ride safely.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
You know now that sentence of yours did a lot
of lifting. Your grandson on the farm, is it?

Speaker 8 (09:48):
What?

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Ye does he work on a farm?

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (09:51):
He just he goes to school, he does work, yeah
as well.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
So did he buy this himself. Did he save up
his pennies and buy this e bike off.

Speaker 6 (09:58):
His prost many from a farm and that sort of
stuff that real quick?

Speaker 3 (10:04):
He let grand dad go on it.

Speaker 6 (10:06):
Yeah, everyone, so it was quite scary. It was going fast.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Did you hear grid? If you go ninety k.

Speaker 6 (10:14):
Didn't they long yet? Bloody faster than the sugar track?
You going real quick? Did you have a liten hen
went on you anyhow? That's so I've got the same.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
I'm not I'm not finished. I'm not finished with the
idiot because.

Speaker 6 (10:28):
It's more of a CC issue. I think that our
government and the a I have sort of looking at
the health and safety side of things, and people on
e bikes and scooters should be made so you have
reflected gear on at nighttime and lights. Yeah, and probably
with proper helmets on. Under a CC were going a

(10:51):
low injuries very shortly with people with e bikes and scooters.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Nice to talk. Thank you live there, Marcus. There is
one man and Upperhart nos Lily scooter that does the
same thing yelling loudly and tooting is a chop of
flag flapping at the back. Of course, you have didden
much about it from Upper HUDs since they lost that.
Remember there was that lovely cat that was visiting the supermarket.
Mobility as good as a govern to fifteen cases is

(11:15):
supposed to give way to pedestrians and cyclists. Marcus, if
you travel through to Pookia, Totonga, you can't road close.
Lots of police turning traffic back to Paanara Motorway. Now
I think there is an extent. I just think I
just saw that on the wires. So you thanks for
the heads up on that. This will be it. Ti

(11:38):
Pooky Highway is closed in Papa Moa after critical two
vehicle crash. Critical injuries following the collision occurred between Bell
Road and Poplar Road seven fifteen. That's an hour ago,
so serious crash unit will be there. I would imagine
highways currently shut. Diversions have been established Pacific Coast Highway
at Poplar Lane, so yeah, she's avoid that that southeast

(12:02):
southeast east southeast of Totong Marcus Dave from christ Church,
amazing time and you talk about the east scooters. I've
just had one overtake me. I'm doing thirty k's in
central christ Judge is just blowing past me with a
young woman on it no helmet, just an accident waiting
to happen. The AA needs to stick to it's knitting
and keeping it's lane. You don't know about the AA.

(12:25):
They're always Let's just try not cast dispusions. Also, someone
has died after a truck has rolled in a Rocksburg
this afternoon, a Texter, Hi, Marcus. Those bloody bells. I
do a lot of walking along the Taylor River and
blend them, and the oldies riding their bikes with their
hivers come up behind me and start dinging their bloody

(12:45):
bells on and on and on. Drives me crazy. I
shout at some of the other they stop bringing that
bloody bell Love. The people who just call out on
your left, I always give them a grateful wave. Paul,
it's Marcus. Good evening, Good Marc is here. Yeah, yeah, good, Paul.
There you going all right?

Speaker 8 (13:04):
I've got all right, Mikey, I'll do. I've got to
tell you a funny old story because when they had
the big yachting thing up in Auckland, there but me
and a few of me, I'll mate there four of
us we went up to Auckland and we're up there
for the yachting because we're all over sixty and anyway,
that's right. I had downloaded the Yact to be able

(13:28):
to get on one of those green.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Scooters, the Lime scooting.

Speaker 8 (13:35):
So that's so good. So on the Saturday morning, and
before it was started a crank up, I thought, right,
I'm going to make my way from the sky City
all the way down to the you know where the
yachting is and everything else, and I'll get myself really
organized sweeter than that. So good as gold. I get
this blooming thing and I'll get my phone out and

(13:56):
I do the act thing and I get the and
I released the scooter and.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
I think, right, makes that noise, It makes a noise.

Speaker 8 (14:07):
Yeah, I'm sort of like a halfway control of the bloody thing. Anyway,
that's right. I got to take off and wouldn't go,
and that's right. I'll get another gay and there's about
twenty of them all lined up in a row, and
I'm onder, you like the one fairest on the right
hand side or whatever, and that's okay. I went to

(14:28):
go again, but you know, I've got a little bit
of a lobolog and I fell out of sideways and
they figured out they all fell over like a domino
effecta boom boom boom, boom boom. All these scooters fell
over on the ground. And I'm right outside these sky casino. Anyway,
someone comes out, actually more than one person came out.

(14:49):
They give me a bit of a hand to get out,
because you know, like I'm sixty years old. And anyway,
we were standing all up, and I thought, crazy, these
scooters aren't going to get away with this, you know,
because I wasn't that really badly injured. So we stood
all these blim and scooters again. And and the funniest

(15:09):
thing was that stood them all up again. This is
gonna be terrible. Anyway, some some kid, they might have
been fourteen or fifteen years old, he must have seen
the whole thing, and he gains says, excuse me, say,
you've got to give a couple of pushes on you
on on the on your legs. There's a scooter to

(15:30):
get it going, and then you put your foot on,
you put your thing on, singing on some to make
it go. Because I thought you just push your thumb
on the.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Start today, that's right. I don't know, I don't even
if it tilts it on the air, but either does it.
You got to give a bit of a scoot.

Speaker 8 (15:48):
Yeah, you gotta get a couple of pushes off of
your leg or whatnot, and then and then you're away,
you know. Oh he it was as funny as it was,
as funny as a fight. But the whorrest thing was
is that, you know, like here I am right out
out the front of the casino and boom boom boom,
boom boom, and all these women green scooters go down
and croky. Here's a silly he's a silly old man

(16:11):
from the country. He turns it up to the big city.
And I still love like hell ab out of it.
But those scooters on the on the top side, once.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
I've got a little gally'd be a great from sky
study down to the vide I get to the dream
mile down there, you'd be going great guns.

Speaker 8 (16:30):
Oh yeah. But the thing is that they're the best
thing ever. You just whistle around and you can see everyone,
you can, you can weave in and out, you can
do everything you like, you know, as long as you're
not silly and going a million miles an air and
you give everyone a lot of you know, like right time,
so you can you can make around them and you

(16:51):
don't have to try and drive into everybody. They are
absolutely brilliant.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
What's the what city are you in?

Speaker 8 (16:59):
Actually live?

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Long they have? Do they have them there? Well?

Speaker 8 (17:03):
They used to end up in there, did they? But
actually ended up in a big writer for a year.
Quite a few people were just throwing them off the
bridge and whatnot. So they took them all away, but
then before I could even have to go on them, unfortunately.
But I'll tell you, I'll set you straight up. I've
actually got a an e bike which is super deeper testing.

(17:28):
I was a naughty boy and I lost my license
prior to to summer for a little bit of drink driving,
and but it didn't really work much people.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yep, a little bit a little bit of drink driving.

Speaker 8 (17:42):
Yep, yeah, a little bit of drink driving. Anyway, But
I've I've got a really good e bike and I
only lost it for six months because I wasn't already
that bad and anyway, so I've done the summer on
the e bike has been the testing too.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
On that what's your fastest speed on the e bike?

Speaker 8 (18:00):
I can do I can do about sixty k's on.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
That and that's easy that's easy control when you're you
to operate when you lick it up.

Speaker 8 (18:08):
Well, yes it is, yeah, But the fingers is that
actually when you're coming home and you get a couple
of swifties, the worst thing is that it's not the
starting well, it's actually not even the driving of or
the riding of it. It's actually the stop. Because when
you get home and you and you do the stop

(18:29):
thing you get actually can it can be a very
hard operation to stay upright. So when you actually stop,
you can actually quite off fall off it.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Brilliant. We've heard everything we needed to in that call.
It's only going to cull themself, I suppose, but cheapest creepers.
There's trouble getting off as e bike after being at
the pub. So maybe the AA has got something. Maybe
there's something to what they say. That's what people are
doing at the getting d I C or d U
Y and then switching to an e bike. And that's

(19:02):
not good, is it? And I guess the question is
why wouldn't you AnyWho oh eight hundred and eighty ten,
eighty nine to nine to the text, looking forward to
what you have to say, and I HITDLE twelve. If
you want to be a part of it. Oh yeah,
e bike's on bells? Does anyone else find that a annoyance?

(19:25):
Good on this gentleman for giving a try and sharing
his story. It made my day. My youngest son just
got his first part time job, so refreshing to hear
the excitement and maturity in his voice when he talked
about it. What's his job? What allegend? Dave is riding
a bike at thirty k's and texting at the same time.
Marcus cut him off, Gil, Yeah, I don't know if

(19:45):
you can get a dic on a I don't think
you can get a drunkard. I don't think. I don't
think the police will prosecute you if you are intoxicated
on an e bike because it will be hard for
them to ascertain who you are. Could I pull you
over the Oh yeah, you're going of it, asked their

(20:07):
old Sonny had a few drinks? Have you Nope? Do
you mind just blowing into this? Just do you name
an address or count to ten one.

Speaker 9 (20:15):
Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine ten That
appears to be a fail? Could you tell me your name?
Gruccio Marx and then you're off? Because what else can
they do. I'm sure that's what happens where she had
a car. They get your license, they could prosecute, they

(20:36):
could run it back and get your number and all
things like that and look at your license.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
So that will be the challenge. So be drunk people
getting e bikes and I think Paulvery will illustrated that
I got am I onder something?

Speaker 6 (20:46):
There?

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Is this a bad thing? If I found the glitch
and the matrix outside the pubs? Are there stacks of
e bikes at night? I suspect they probably are? So yeah,
that's what right about tonight? Eight hundred and eighty ten
eightian nine two nine to two detext e bikes and
the funny smell in timidou if you want to talk
about this, that's the plan. When's Trump arriving at China?

Speaker 10 (21:07):
Is it soon?

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Down?

Speaker 11 (21:09):
Is it is?

Speaker 7 (21:09):
It?

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Should be watching that lie? Is he? Is he on
his way? Is it within second? Hours? Days or minutes?
So we'll be following Trump as he goes to China.
He had a big night on truth social last night,
mainly reposting stuff. It's pretty weird the stuff he reposts.
But he's a victim to all this misinformation, as well,

(21:32):
he's reading it and reposting it. He got no idea
what's going on? Be in touch if you're and talk
twenty seven to nine oh eight hundred. Oh by the
way too, ummm, this is interesting. Ivan Cleary is to
leave the Penrith Panthers. I just picked that up. Yeah,
I just picked it up recently, but I think it

(21:54):
was down about four o'clock today. Super coach leaving at
the end of twenty twenty seven. So yeah, and it's
a club in flux too. A lot of the big
names are off contract. Dumb Nyth think clear. I think
Brian Leam Martin, he's the greatest. They're all about to go.
So yes, coach the Warriors paid for Warriors. I think

(22:14):
I've got that one right. Anyway, twenty five away from
nine E bikes, get in touch there to what we
are talking about tonight, amongst other stuff. Also, I'll keep
you up there around the world. Oh yeah, and yeah
a couple of extents too. There's been a fatality in
rocksborgh at the Grover's truck rolled at the Grover's Hill

(22:35):
walking track, so I wouldn't know. I don't know if
that's off a road or on a road. I'm not
quite sure the situation there, but if you've got any
more information about that, well, yeah, I guess more information
will becoming available. It seems like it's down by the
river there, but I think there's probably a situation where
it's where it's a work site or something. He looks

(22:59):
like there's an industrial area there, some form of quarry
or something. Anyway to get in touch if you want
to talk twenty five away from nine is I say
at tatty and nine two nine to the text, Marcus
drunk in charge of an ebike is still an offense.
An e bike is a mode of conveyance. By definition,
any mode of conveyance is deemed to be a vehicle.
Therefore DIC a vehicle. Yes, But the point I'm making

(23:21):
is it's free hard for them to prove who the
person is because you don't need to carry ID to
operate one of those, and probably people won't feel compelled
to give the arresting officer their correct details. I've watched
Police ten seven enough to know that that could be
a difficult thing to get people's information then to prosecute them,
and probably therefore the police don't bother. You might have

(23:44):
different information on that. That's all good. Trump arriving and
Beijing tomorrow morning in dead time, that'll be their headline.
You'll say something weird. Can promise you that text if
you want to nine two nine two is the text number.
Marcus till twelve looking forward to what you've got to say?

(24:05):
All lines are free twenty two to nine, Nathan Clary
to go but anything is the discussion. We're talking e bikes,
anyone to e bikes and these scooters? Is everyone happy
with the status quarrel? Are they terrified? I think probably
the people are more terrified. Are the shopkeepers with the
scooters left outside their premises?

Speaker 12 (24:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (24:24):
So yeah? And also getting if people are buying them
because they lose their license? Are you okay about that?
Someone said you must produce a driver's license on demand
if you're the operator of a vehicle E bike included.
Well not if you haven't got one. That's my understanding.
And I don't know if anyone that's ever been prosecuted
on a pushbike for being intoxicated, and I would imagine

(24:44):
an e bike's probably a similar sort of a situation
might be different in other countries. But if you've got
some intel on that. That's something I'd be curious about too.
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten, eighty ninety two, ninety
two to texts hit till twelve if you want to
be a part of it. The Ockham Book Awards are
on tonight to I let you know when the results
are through for that Best Book will be a I

(25:06):
think between Chichi's novel and Adurned memoir also, so I'll
bring you that update when that happens. It'll come through
some time tonight. I can't tell to the Wellington Phoenix
play Melbourne City. That is the Alely Grand Final that
Sunday six fifteen, New Zealand Times. They had a great
turn out there. That's Sunday this day in nineteen ninety

(25:30):
five New Zealand one of the America's Cup. That was
the one where we did the big parade with the
toyotas and Peter Blake and team came down on those
mustard yellow CAZy zeven tops.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
I know, because they had to be a part of
that ticket tape paraders working at TVs and we had
to go down there and report it. I reckon they'd
be the biggest crowd there's ever been in New Zealand
would be for that. There's probably couple hundred thousand. You
remember it. You all got off school. Probably Hello, Chris,
it's Marcus. Good evening, there you go, good Chris.

Speaker 12 (26:03):
So relations to e bikes what have you. If a
person doesn't have a license, you can still demand name, address,
data bursts great and if they felt if they produced
whole details or details don't match in the system, you
could still take them down to the station to concern
those details, or go to their home address, get some

(26:25):
id that way. You just can't just cut people away.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
And when you say don't match, what's on the system.
So tell me a bit more about that.

Speaker 12 (26:36):
So if they've had a license apport there will be
a photo SyncE.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Oh yeah, sure, But if they haven't, If they haven't
had a license, if they're through the cracks, then are
they off the hook?

Speaker 12 (26:46):
No, not really, So you've still got to deal with them.
You're don't figure out who they are. So whether that's
go back to the home address and get some other
form of ideas, get something like that, or go down
to the station and confirm you just can't. You just
can't cut people away like that.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
How challenging is that to get those details off them.

Speaker 12 (27:05):
Well, at the end of the day, that they've got
to provide the details to who they are, they committed
the offense, you've arrested them or what have you, so
you've still got to pursue it.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Okay, would it be worth a hussle?

Speaker 12 (27:17):
Well, if they're intoxicated or what have you. E bikes, Yeah,
there's still a motor vehicle, so on the Land Transport Act,
they'd still have to abide by providing correct details.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Okay, good stuff, Chris, thank you for that. Dan A's Marcus,
good evening.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Okay, Marcus, Hey, I just wanted to funtion the e
bike thing. In the two different categories of e bikes,
and one is the pedal assists and one is the
e bike without pedals, and I believe the differences are
full on e bike without pedals is where you do
need to have some kind of license. But if it's
pedal assists and it's got pedals, they are limited on

(27:56):
power and I believe you don't need a license for those,
so it's a bit of a difference there. And I
also believe that yeah, the power limitation and people were
getting around that just by putting different stickers on the motors.

Speaker 13 (28:08):
And the batteries.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Ah, so they'll have a more powerful e bike, maybe
an important one or something that's two thousand watts, and
they'll have a five hundred wattsticker on it, and then
whoever stops them doesn't know the difference.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
You know, And what would be the difference if they
were stopped, Well.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
If they were stopped and they had the sticker saying
and you know their bike was branded at and it
had pedals and it was only labeled at five hundred
watt or something, it might be fall under their requirement
to have a license. Okay, but it's I mean, people
don't know enough about them, so it's as simple as
just changing the sticker on it. And people are using
much more powerful e bikes than they are allowed to.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
And are you saying you need a license for the
more powerful one?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, I believe if it's not pedal assists, which means
it does not have pedals at all, and it's just
like basically a small motorbike, yeah, I believe that you
need a license for But if it has pedals with
a motor assist, then you don't.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
They they are very different things, aren't they.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
They are quite different. Yeah, but I think people sort
of get them confused. You know, the ones that are
more like a little dirt bike kind of thing and electric, Yeah,
they potentially are very powerful. And if they not, if
they don't have any pedals and they're full on electric, yeah,
I think that's where there needs to be a lot
more legislation because they can be a lot faster and
a lot more powerful.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
And if you're fourteen year old that, if you're fourteen,
that's what you want, isn't it? Because that looks exciting?
Is all good?

Speaker 5 (29:33):
Out?

Speaker 2 (29:34):
My friends kids are obsessed with them. They want them
so bad. And my mate is just like, bro, they are.
It's dangerous, man, you know, like a four kids having
them on farms and stuff like that. For sure, they've
got the education around it, but kids trying to ride
them around the cities and stuff like that, it's dangerous.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
My boy is certainly aware of the brand. I mean,
so I see that'll be I think on why he
gives me, there'll be this one, There'll be that one.
They must know what There seems to be quite a
sort after brand that is the is the powerful on
what's it.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Called Siron Siron I think is one of the populive brands.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure what it was.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, but yeah, they do get to a point that
they're a pretty powerful motorbike, you know, and it's yeah,
it's not a cruiser on the streets.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
Sure, on a farm.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Great when you learn about them and you've got the knowledge.
But for these young kids just getting these grunty little
bikes riding them on the streets, they're causing all kinds
of problems.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
What's the cost?

Speaker 2 (30:27):
I think you're about six grand, so they're up there.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah, but it's achievable, isn't it. You're fifteen, paper and
worker holiday. But that's good.

Speaker 14 (30:33):
Yeah, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Get your parents to go hard across or something you know,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Promised to buy the lawn. It's nice to talk down.
Thank you, chopping through, keeping it going. What about the
e bikes and the bells? That's the thing I want
to know about. Behind you ding ding ding ding ding,
behind you ding ding ding ding ding. As long as
the bike stays on the limit, you're now to ride
on roads and cycle path through requiring a license. However,
you must still wear a helmet is pyr a pedal bike.

(31:02):
They can charge you d C on an e bike
or e scooter in UK same severe penalties for cars,
including a rest fine and driving band. Also, I walk
with a blind low vision group. East scouters on the
pavement are lunatics, weaving and out of pedestrians, especially when
they come up behind the walkers. Bell should be compulsor
on the east scooter and used as a courtesy Mary

(31:25):
ding Ding ding Ding. Marcus, Yes, siron and it's popularized
with kids by YouTuber could called sir Ronsta. It's always
popularized by someone on YouTube. Isn't it blah blah blah
blah blah. Here midnight, my name is Marcus. Welcome sixteen
to fifteen, fourteen to nine. In this fast changing world

(31:48):
we live in. If Keir Starmer gets the don't come day,
I'll tell you about that. That's the news I'm watching tonight.
Trump's on his way to China. I don't know who
the last president that went. It used to be a
big deal to go to China, because did we see
that in Forest Gump. I don't know how many I
don't know how many presents have been to China. Of course,

(32:10):
Trump went to North Korea. I remember he thought that
was going to be solved. I remember that he went
to the DMZ in the mid the militarized Zone. What
do you think of that? Remember that with North Korea
frigid Spinner, it seems like a long time ago, doesn't
it any who? Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty and
nine nine to detect. My name is Marcus Welcome. Oh no,

(32:34):
my bike is for electric air classes mopaid, no license required,
twelve away from nine. I don't know why I've never
moved on. I think the thing for me about e
bikes is they just looked like such potential landfall. I've
seen so many come and just sort of break down
and become junk. They're but like the original electric Lawnmower's

(32:55):
not much good, But I guess they'll get better. People
are obsessed with the siron. My boy is twelve and
won't stop talking about that YouTuber you just mentioned. He's
constantly watching his videos. He seems to think he's amazing
and apparently encourages him when wear a helmet. Here's a scooter,
but he rides to and from. Scholatally asks me if

(33:16):
we had to get a sour ron. Wow, and there's
someone else here. This is the story of him assistant
kids to ride over the Auckland Harbor Bridge on e
bikes and tigs. He's got a challenge for AA do
a campaign for a standard rule of thumb on trailers,
starting with stricter rules on towing and transporting boats on

(33:36):
public roads. I've witnessed numerous boats coming off trailers causing
motorway mayhem. How many licensed drivers know how to back
a trailer? Have also seen some really dodgy homemade trailers too.
That's from tig. Don't even be a good idea to
make your own trailer? Would it be asking for trouble?
Trailer trouble? Get in touch. My name is Marcus Welcome.

(34:00):
Oh wow, Marcus. The time for the go to luxon
is now. It will shift the polls. It was my
prediction was that my prediction, Dan or I mean a
soul patch? Does they go to your soul patch? I
think soul patch was BBS I pic a bit he
goes with that. Thank you for that. Calvin looks unrecognizable.
Oh wait, undred you know the rest of my name

(34:22):
is Marcus Welcome, Sipping away from nine? Is that what
I said. I think a beard is a go tee.
There wasn't it. Yeah, well, a bed and a goate
is a subgroup of the beard. I suppose beads come
and go, don't they? The van eike, the shovel beard.
Don't know where we are with beards and beards at
the moment. Beards just giving you a couple of updates.

(34:47):
They's a serious crash in that may have plenty. It's
closed the highway to Pookie, highways closed and Papa Moa
after a critical do vehicle crash. People were critically injured
following the collision. Three ambulances two people in a serious condition.
Highways currently shut into versions have been established, so when

(35:10):
the serious cush unit is there to investigate that always Yeah,
they haven't said that I shouldn't speaculate, but yeah, it
appears that that'll be closed. I'll tell her to look
on Waka Katahea. I' let you know the full information
because I know that even at the best of times,
it's hard to get around those places. So be a
tough night for you tonight, bigger pardon, oh copy things.
I'll get in touch if you want to talk. It's

(35:31):
just six so it's just four away from nine o'clock.
I've been on the Waka Katahi website. I can't see
the updates on that, so that's bad they haven't put
that situation. But I'll do all I can to keep
you updated. Trump's off to China and that's what's happening
in the world, so no doubt that'll be tomorrow's headlines.
I don't quite know what do manage to do with

(35:51):
that one. Anyway, we are talking about Eastcooders and e bikes, well, yeah,
I don't even know if the ones without pedals should
be called e bikes. They should be called e motorbikes,
shouldn't they because the bike would end you're peddling. Yes, yeah,
so it's a pretty complicated thing. But I'll tell you

(36:14):
what though. I mean, there is all the negative talk
around them, but they are fantastic things when I think
somewhere there is a future of transport unbelievable as good
as we can get with them. So that's a situation.
But if you want to talk about that or anything else,
don't Also, mystery smell and timuru hard to resolve. Mystery smells,

(36:34):
aren't they kind of hard to test for? Last time
it was the freezing works and what I think those
freezing works have now closed, so I've got information about
that that would be of interest to me. So be
in touch if you want to be on air tonight,
Heit til midnight tonight. As I've said, oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty and nine two nine, it's Hummas
Day today, to just so you know, well I think

(36:56):
about Hummus. Is always a product recall with Hummus, isn't
there must be sketchy to make new zeid and good evening,
seven past nine here till twelve o'clock. The number is
eight hundred eighty Tennady. We are talking e bikes. It's
talking about e bikes and yeah it's the AA have
come out and said that there needs to be more
and what I've known from this discussion and I'm no

(37:18):
expert on them, but there seems to be like a
confusion about them and what you can do on them anyway,
So yes, if you want to talk about this, get
in touch. Eight hundred and eighty ten, Eddy, John AT's
Marcus Good evening, Good evening there you good, Thanks John Good.

Speaker 15 (37:33):
I love your topic about how to get away wants
to do and how to do it properly, go get
in court for everything.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Well huh, well, I mean.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
It's been responsible.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah, I mean I think, yeah, I don't want to
encourage people to do anything that's that's illegal, but I
do know how. I do know how the human mind works.

Speaker 15 (37:58):
That's right. Yeah, I've brought a little pit bike just
to get around when I was intoxicators. But I don't
drink anymore, sir.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
No, nor do I. But but I did drive when I.

Speaker 15 (38:07):
Yeah, well no, no, it's been there, done that bad idea.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
I did think. I did think it was interesting. The
guy before, Yeah, I shouldn't. Yeah, anyway, what did you
want to say about e bikes?

Speaker 15 (38:18):
John, Oh, that was about it. I'm more of a
bloody two stroke guy. You know, I didn't really want
to see anything bloody what I don't know.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
But when you said you got a pit bike. What
is a pit bike?

Speaker 15 (38:32):
It's like as a pump start, the one forty c
C electric start. That's why I got that electric start,
so when you're so intoxicated, you can get a picture
and you can.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Is it called a pit bike?

Speaker 15 (38:47):
Yeah, pit bike, yep, a little one forty I've got
a few scooters here. I just got my three wheeler
fancies last week.

Speaker 16 (38:57):
Wow.

Speaker 15 (38:58):
You know, they haven't quite kicked off yet like rodaries,
but maybe one day.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
It's a three wheeler. This would be a question. Are
the two wheels at the front or at the.

Speaker 15 (39:08):
Back one wheel at the front too, because.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
I've seen some of those bikes with two wheels of
the front that don't look good.

Speaker 15 (39:15):
No, no, no no, I think these are more designed
to cross rivers, to be honest.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Yeah, okay, but joye talk to you, John.

Speaker 11 (39:20):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Oh eight hundred and eighty to eighty nine to nine
to text Mackett's Marcus. Good evening and welcome Marcus.

Speaker 16 (39:29):
How you doing good?

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Thanks Mac.

Speaker 11 (39:31):
I'm quite into these East schools. I love them good.
They just go so handy, so nifty. You know, I
can I can charge it, charge it up just using
the solar as well, so you know, economical from that perspective.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
So I don't really know much about it right only
because it's not where I'm at. If I was living urban,
I would know about it. But I live thirty k's
away from where I work, So a car is important
to me. Have you got a Have you got a car?
As well.

Speaker 17 (40:05):
Mac.

Speaker 11 (40:06):
No, nope, I've got two e scooters. I've got a
biggie and a small one.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
Okay, And and I don't know much about the have
they have neither of them got pedals, or both of
them have got pedles, or one of them's got pedals.

Speaker 11 (40:20):
No, neither of them have got pedals. These are stand
up scooters and they are not e bikes.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
I see what you're saying.

Speaker 11 (40:27):
Yeah, And and just what's interesting about it is over
on the NZTA website there are quite a lot of
regulations about these things, but they're not they're not really enforced.
So what I've what I've found is that from their
website is that if and this applies to both e

(40:47):
bikes and scooters, that if they are three hundred watts
or smaller, then you do not need a license to
write them. If they are if they are more than
three hundred watts, then you are legally required to have
a license. However, like I said, it's it's not enforced currently.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Sorry did you just say that is for the bikes
or for the scooters.

Speaker 11 (41:13):
That's for both of them.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Okay.

Speaker 11 (41:16):
Where the difference comes in is New Zealand has got
this this rule about not riding a bicycle on the sidewalk. Yeah,
whereas an e scooter is allowed on the sidewalk. So
that's a little bit of a you know, if you're
on a knee scooter, you can have the best of

(41:38):
both wills. You can jump on the road or you
can jump on the sidewalk, provided it's under three hundred one.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
So what's the last thing you said. You said that
they're not gonna they won't puss. Sure, what did you
say about the licenses.

Speaker 11 (41:51):
Well, it's not it's not enforced the rules I suppose
is it's not. It's not too big of an issue
as of yet, but it is becoming more and more popular.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
So so just tell me again what that or rulers.

Speaker 11 (42:07):
So three hundred watts is the limit on how much
power the motor is allowed to output before you are
required to have a license, okay to ride it. But now,
because it's not really enforced, that's why you see a
lot of people on these big ones on the sidewalk
on the road. I can imagine the problem you might

(42:31):
run into is if you are involved in an accident
and you run licensed, you know, that might be where
you might be held liable for some kind of damage perhaps,
And I also think.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
From a policing point of view, because you haven't got
a number plate, it makes everything a lot more challenging,
doesn't it.

Speaker 11 (42:53):
Absolutely, And if it's over this three hundred threshold, according
to the NZTA website, it is supposed to be registered. However,
they're not really built to you know, like you can't
exactly get a war on the fitness for them because
they're not really built to speak for that.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
And there'd be so many different brands as well that
they would have no idea which ones were and how
they'd be registered and stuff like that. So it seems
to be, Yeah, it seems to be.

Speaker 11 (43:24):
There's more rules around the helmet as well. So on
an east scooter below that wattage it is only recommended
wear a helmet, whereas if you ride a bicycle, you know,
big or small, motor or unpowered, it is legally required
that you wear a helmet. So that's just an interesting
gray area there that hasn't really been aggressed yet.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
And you talk about the three hundred watts, is that
both for bikes and the scooters.

Speaker 11 (43:50):
It is, yeah, And that's the size of the motor,
not necessarily the battery.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Okay, so you said you've got two scooters. How much
How many watts are they?

Speaker 11 (43:59):
The one that I've got is two thousand watts. It's
incredibly fast and scary and got it. I used to
ride it on the road, but I've I don't do
that anymore because it is very dangerous and it is
very scary. The problem is not necessarily my own misjudgment.

(44:19):
But what I noticed, first of all is that drivers
on the road do not expect you to be there.
So that's the first thing you should keep in mind.
This has always been my personal golden rule. Whether you're
on a bike or scooter, it's your responsibility to stay

(44:39):
out of the way of oncoming traffic.

Speaker 10 (44:42):
Agreed.

Speaker 11 (44:43):
Yeah, And just on an interesting note, I visited China recently.
Their major cities have banded stand up EA scooters.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Wow, because they're probably making them all as well, aren't they.

Speaker 11 (44:57):
They make them all, but you don't see them there.

Speaker 17 (45:01):
Yep.

Speaker 11 (45:01):
I just thought i'd share what I do.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
You use your yours your commute?

Speaker 11 (45:07):
I do, Yes, the little one is quite convenient because
it can fold up and it's very light, so it
can you can take it on public transport quite easily.
The big one is pretty inconvenient, and I wouldn't I
wouldn't want to take that onto a bust or trains.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Have you come off it at all?

Speaker 11 (45:26):
No, But I'm particularly cautious, and just like I said earlier,
I don't ride it on the road anymore, even the
big one, I don't use it all that much. I
ride it on the sidewalk, not really allowed to. But
I'm not a speed free guy either. I'm very cautious.
I ride it like a nana.

Speaker 16 (45:46):
It's great.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Yeah, I wonder if and ten, you know, because it
seemed to me once I was going to Auckland quite
often and using them a lot, it seemed to me
to be a transformative form of transport because it was
so good. Do you think that's what's going to happen that,
you know, because you see in the city people coming
off trains with bikes. You think that with scooters? Do
you think that's what's going to happen? Or do you

(46:09):
think it's going to be legislated out because it seems
as though were in that in betweenst You know how
that guy invented the segway, right, Yeah, you remember the segway,
and they thought that was going to be the greatest
thing ever. But one of the things that caused the
most concerned with the segways is no one knew whether
they were supposed to be on the footpath or the road,

(46:30):
and that caused people confusion and they kind of just
fed out of favor. And I wonder if we are
at the same place with scooters or they're going to
take over. I think they're going to take over.

Speaker 11 (46:40):
Well, I hope so, because they are incredibly useful, you know,
But it is it does come down to how you
use it. Yeah, the powerful one, for example, I've got
that power under that throttle. That doesn't mean I'm going
to be using it to fly down the road. But
what it does mean is that if I did notice

(47:02):
a car coming at me, I've got that power under
me that I can get out of the way really
very quickly.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Do you think the wheels are big enough?

Speaker 11 (47:11):
There are eleven inches at each and just an interesting
note also, it's dual motor so both front and where
and front and rear wheels are both motorized.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Because that's bigger than most How big are the wheels
on a Lime scooter?

Speaker 11 (47:28):
What would they be probably probably between eight and ten.

Speaker 7 (47:32):
I'm not.

Speaker 11 (47:34):
Yeah, yeah, so this is this is sort of your
bigger end.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
I think what happens from my experience with scooters is
that you know, first of you try those folding ones
when they're all their age with those small wheels, but
you will fall a couple of times. But you then
get you quite quickly get used to what it's capable
of and what kind of bumps are going to upend you,
and you managed to kind of change your riding to

(47:58):
compensate for that.

Speaker 11 (47:59):
I think that's right. You sort of got to lean
back and ride on the back wheel because bumped. Yes,
you come up all the time. The biggest scooter is
incredibly comfortable and stable. I've had the throttle on halfway
and I'm doing eighty k's down the hill and it's
just driving itself.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Yeah. And I recently went off roading with a guy
that's uh that's looking at setting up a business, and
that was, you know, this is quite steep off range,
rocky territory, and they worked really well. It was kind
of you know, as far as an outdoor off road pursuit,
it's pretty good.

Speaker 11 (48:39):
Oh, they're incredible, especially with they're dual motor. You've got
the power. You can get up just about any hell,
no matter how steep it is, it flies of it.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
Have you seen those motorized single wheel things?

Speaker 11 (48:54):
Yes, I have. I'm not sure about how that's going
to go down to the deer to get your monk.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
But I've seen people are racing them off road and
they seem to be they seem to stay upright, they
seem to be extraordinary.

Speaker 11 (49:05):
Yeah, yeah, no, I'm sure I'm sure they would. But
it comes down to practicality, you know, and doesn't work,
doesn't do a job for you? Is it going to
get you working back? Was it going to get you
to the shop? And you know what, what's your purpose?

Speaker 18 (49:20):
Really?

Speaker 11 (49:20):
Are you out for a ride or are you Are
you trying to achieve? I you trying to get somewhere?
I trying to you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (49:28):
Yeah, hey, mag just before you go?

Speaker 11 (49:30):
How was China much much better than what I expected?

Speaker 5 (49:35):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Beautiful, beautiful braak And this is since for moves? This
is this is in recent months.

Speaker 11 (49:40):
Yes, this was two and a half months ago.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Yeah, and no dramas nothing. It all seemed progressing and it'll.

Speaker 11 (49:47):
Seem not at all, little little bit, little bit scary
on the on the social credit side of things. But
but on the other hand, everybody feels very safe.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Yeah, was safe from scooters anyway. Nice to talk, make
thanks so much twenty past nine o eight one hundred
and eighty To tendy mine them as much is welcome
Hitdle twelve. Do you want to be apart? If you
want to get in touch for l free anything goes
Hittle twelve. I would not want to live in a
downtown apartment with all these ebike scooters getting charged up

(50:17):
in their apartments. When those batteries catch fire, you can't
put them out. You mentioned the America's Cup Parade. I
skipped school with a friend with ten America's Cup Parade
and a skip In the Artea, we found a section
of red carpet made from red sox stuck onto a carpet.
We dragged the carpet to Queen Street. I enjoyed the
prayed and sold the socks. I don't understand the rules

(50:38):
throunding electrics, good as Marcus. So many people going at
speed xually on the road helmet and suitable footwear seems
really dangerous. Yeah, get in touch Hittle twelve three one
past nine HITDL Midnight. My name is Marcus twenty three
past nine, Douglas good evening.

Speaker 7 (50:55):
Yeah, Hi Mike, I see you're doing good.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Thanks Douglas.

Speaker 7 (50:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (50:58):
Look.

Speaker 7 (50:59):
My thoughts on the oldiest scater is I bought one
probably three or four years ago. My son was sixteen
and sort of wanted him to use it to and
from school. I live in Auckland here was at Western
Springs College, and there's some pretty big hills involved. But
I use it now and then just to go down
to the pub and get home without getting caught. And
I tell you those scooters that you can buy from
pv Tech, not that we're mentioning retailers, but they are

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recently well priced and they are quite quick. And one
of the accidents who will traps I fell into is
that they're made by Segue, who make those leaning kind
of one wheel things, and the guys at pv tech
are quite happy to put some pirate software in there.
Otherwise the Segway software itself just limits the whole cycle
to twenty five kilometers. So that's that's got to be

(51:44):
caught somehow. I think at some point you've got to
limit the speed of these scooters because it's just they
are dangerous and people that are young and aren't road
safe or road a whare they just generally tend to
surprise motor vehicles and that's you know what happens in
an accident at that point when the kid gets run over.
Who sort of wears that girl? And who does the

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insurance lie and whose liability is it? It's a tough one.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
So they can override the governor.

Speaker 7 (52:20):
They can yep, they can put software in there that's pirated.
And I think the skinder I bought, which was, you know,
on over one hundred kilograms, something that goes up hills.
I guess the top speed was around thirty nine forty
kilometers and that's pretty fast if you're surprising traffic by
coming off a footpath and going onto a road. Especially
And this is the point I really want to make

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at nighttime, I mean, there should be some sort of curfew,
like half an hour after sunset or just regulated so
the police can give out twenty dollars instant fines if
they see anyone. Because the police are, especially in Auckland,
they're pretty visible at the moment, so they should have
the powers, and legislation should be passed fairy quickly. I
would have thought, just so that people start to get

(53:01):
stung for doing stupid things between the footpaths and the road.
You know, helmets something that's a no brainer. Really, everybody
should be wearing a helmet.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
So you use yours so you can drink and drive.

Speaker 7 (53:16):
Ah, well, I don't drink anymore. I've given up for
eighteen months. So yeah, yourself, I don't drink at all.
So I'll have a zero at the pub, but I
don't have anything with alcohol in it.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Yeah, people are people are buying them for that reason,
are they?

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Well?

Speaker 7 (53:35):
I think so. I mean it's at the moment there's
a loophole in the laws, and there's a loophole in
the way that the city's govern the legislation around riding
scooters on footpath and on the road. So, like you've
said earlier, and you have previous conversations, you know, at
the moment you give you a teenager a scooter, he's

(53:57):
got no road awareness and generally he's you know, he's
he's exposed to surprising a car without being aware of that,
and it's very difficult to I just tain teenagers to be.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
I just, I just, I mean, I just, I guess
I've got to focus on that. The drink driving kind
of thing that's been mentioned tonight. And you know, the
worst thing, I mean, the most likely thing to kill
someone if they're not involved with gangs or subterfuge, would
be a drink driver. But if people are drink drivers
and driving scooters, they're probably only like really, they're probably

(54:36):
only likely to kill themselves. That's going to be the thing,
is that they're not going to ride off a car. No,
So there is there is an element of it's not
quite as bad. I understand people doing it, but it
certainly seems though it's something that they want to cramp
down on.

Speaker 7 (54:51):
Well, you know, how do you control it and how
do you police it or the two of the two.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
I'm sure, I'm sure there's no will to do it
because it sounds like a minefield to police for me. Oh,
I see, okay, is that is that what you would think?

Speaker 17 (55:05):
No?

Speaker 7 (55:05):
Not at all, thanks, you know, And like I just
got a twenty dollars ticket through a small parking fine,
I think, and you know, I'll pay it eventually, but
you know, Aukland City has cameras everywhere. If they could
be introduced in such a way that people start getting
tickets to the mail, then it's going to start hurting eventually,

(55:26):
and the teenagers should get one for MA and then.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
But to get a ticket through the mail, you need
to be registered with a number plate, wouldn't.

Speaker 7 (55:33):
You, of course, of course, But yeah, that's a good point.
You probably do need to get some sort of number
plate licensing system and play.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Until it does have, everyone will be using that as
advantage to get around the law. I reckon.

Speaker 7 (55:49):
Yeah, No, I think you're right there. I'm just thinking
of ways that you should police it for one of
a better word, because.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
That's why I think we've got themselves. Think they've got
themselves in trouble. But I think transports change. It's gone
from cars and motorbikes to cars and scooters and e
bikes and e scooters and everything, and they're not keeping
up the technology and the law enforcements not keeping up.

Speaker 7 (56:09):
Yes, true, true statement.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Nice to talk, Doug, Thanks so much for that. Marcus,
my diris, could I use on the Northwestern Scaway tops
out eighty seven club is an hour? Ask me how
I know? How do you know? Christ Church is far
with an Auckland. The whole city is already bike e
bike route. Sadly in here the new roads of re
Narrow and Auckland Council approves whatever the developers do. In

(56:32):
Long Bay, for example, the public bus can't turn around
without stepping on the roundabout. A lot of people wanting
to get into an Auckland christ Church fight, which I've
got no desire to do. It's interesting that Lancets Marcus
good evening.

Speaker 17 (56:47):
Yeah, mate o, good question. A few years ago in
christ Church they have a lot of those lime green
scooters around down they just park. You could use them
in the same here in Napi set these purple ones everywhere. Well,
I've disappeared off the face of the earth. Do anyone
know where the corn?

Speaker 3 (57:08):
What brand were they?

Speaker 17 (57:09):
I have no idea. I never used one, but they
used to use a credit card. You're punging some numbers
and the way you'd go. But there be groups of
them parts around the place, you know, two or three here,
five over there in the city. Where have they gone to?

Speaker 3 (57:24):
Well, it's my understanding. Are we talking about lime scooters
and Flamingo scooters?

Speaker 17 (57:30):
Well, I don't know what they are. You know, a
scooter to me, but we where I live here and
maybe these they have purple ones and they we're everywhere,
but they've gone off the face of views, am I
Dand it's.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
My understanding in Auckland and christ Church and Dneda and
which are the only main cities I've been too recently,
they are still very much everywhere.

Speaker 17 (57:52):
Well, I've just never seen them anymore. I've never seen
them on the road in fact up anymore. Maybe I
don't know. Is anybody out Do you know what's happened
to them?

Speaker 3 (58:02):
Well, I think they're still there.

Speaker 17 (58:05):
They may well be, but have never seen them.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Maria, Yeah, okay, we'll find out, because I think I
think some councils have by laws that ban them. You've
got to have approval from the council. I think most
people thought they're pretty good. They bring people to the sea,
they help people get around, They help you get from
the bus from your house to the bus stop.

Speaker 17 (58:21):
They needs to do all that and they will approve.
You could miss them. But I haven't seen any forl
we couple of years of more there.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
Okay, I'll find out. Thanks, Lance, appreciate it. Appreciate it.
Appreciate it. Hold your horses. Jamie with you soon twenty
had away from ten, looking forward to your input tonight, Hitle, midnight, Jamie.
This is Marcus. Welcome, good evening.

Speaker 10 (58:44):
Hey, Mark's there, you're going tonight?

Speaker 14 (58:46):
Good?

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Thank you, Jamie.

Speaker 10 (58:48):
So, my young so he's been building e bikes and
remember his mates since we were probably about twelve years old.
He's sixteen now and he's got one with me on
it on one hundred and fifteen kilo it does seventy
kilometers and with him it does ninety. And they just
buy the They just buy everything like online eBay or
wherever you want, and then yeah, they go find a

(59:10):
pushbike on marketplace, vault it all up and then cut
the pigs. I'll cut the pedals off it. Well, pegs
on it, but because they reckon it's better than having
having pedals. And then away they go. But they've actually
outlawed them. They've kind of outlawed them here in Queensland.

Speaker 12 (59:28):
They yeah, you've.

Speaker 10 (59:29):
Got to if it's not it's got to have pedals.
And if it goes over thirty kilometers then they yeah,
you've got to have a license. So I keep joking
to him that he'll get us one taken off him
soon because he rides it all around town.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
Please do anything about it? Do they put it to
the police care?

Speaker 10 (59:49):
No, they don't see reckons, they don't like. Yeah, he's
talked to a few because yeah, they're always riding around
the neighborhood. And yeah, they've talked to a few cops
from different times and reckons they leave them alone. So
yeah you can.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
So you get a push bike, yep. And how's it
is a driver? Is a friction drive on the wheel
or it's a.

Speaker 10 (01:00:15):
Yeah yeah, on the back wheel. So yeah, then you
just buy the whole hoven wheel depending on which you
can buy a two thousand one or probably a fifth
or he's got a five thousand what wheel? And you
bottle that up, just replace it with the other wheel,
the back one, and then you design what battery you got.
I think he's got a seventy two ant le seventy
two what battery or something? And then yeah, he boltle

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that on. You buy this control of thing, put that
on there, and he can if he sees he said,
he said, if he sees cops, he can push a
button and it governs it to thirty cave the other
you push a button, it can do ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
And where does the battery set.

Speaker 10 (01:00:56):
Just goes like just bolts to the top rail of
your pushbike, not bolts on it. So it just like
straps on. Yeah, it comes with a bag and everything.
You can just strap it on.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
So so you've replaced the back wheel with another wheel
that's got the drive and everything inside. Is that the
way it works?

Speaker 10 (01:01:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it.

Speaker 11 (01:01:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:01:15):
Then you just run the wires for the battery, run
the wires to your controller, hang the battery off the
top of them. Yeah, off the top of the bar
on your pushbike. You know how there's that that gap. Yeah,
that sort of a frame gaff or whatever you want
to call it. The battery just sits in there and
the where you go.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
What's the cost?

Speaker 10 (01:01:38):
Yeah, he buys them off the marketplace to kit but
I think his mates has been about five grand doing one. Okay,
and then yeah he gets all the hand me down parts.
But yeah, cool.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
Because it sounds as exciting as it gets.

Speaker 17 (01:01:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:01:54):
The rule is at home is whenever whenever they're doing
something like that or one of the kids.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
It's a classic dad thing to say, is it. Oh,
that's the role.

Speaker 10 (01:02:07):
Yeah, there's stark bargs.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
And parents say that to me with about motorbikes forty
five years ago. Oh yeah, the rulers that.

Speaker 10 (01:02:15):
Yeah, yeah, well man, those dark bags man, they go okay,
they're good fun to ride, not very good riders.

Speaker 11 (01:02:26):
I didn't.

Speaker 10 (01:02:28):
Yeah, I think they do, like one hundred and twenty Yeah,
young fellows. Mate either been riding bikes since the little
he comes of flying fast the house on the back
wheel at about one hundred cass Quite impressive.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
Excellent boys and machines. Yep, nice to talk Jamie. Thank you. Hello, Ron,
it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 5 (01:02:50):
Oh, good evening, Marcus. Enjoy your show, thank you. Just
a little passing thing now, E bikes E scooter Sorry,
just an observation. The scooters in New Zealand are running
without any ACC contributions. Last year E bikes contributed fourteen

(01:03:14):
million plus to payout for ACC and hospital and there's
no contribution whatsoever by anyone who imports these bikes or
these scooters or anyone using them. And I think it's
a big gap because that fourteen million is money we
could use in other parts of our health system. It's

(01:03:36):
just my thinking. Anyway, do you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Think it's going to change anytime soon.

Speaker 5 (01:03:42):
Well, when I was coming home tonight, I saw a
couple of kids on my e bike zooming along. They
passed me, and I was doing fifty k and they
passed me. They were on a cycle way. This is
christ Church and no helmets, and they're both on the back.
If they have an accident, you and I pay for

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their costs. I don't see why the importers of them about.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
But it's about everything in this in our world, isn't it.
If they crush the car, they're going to be.

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
Yeah, but we pay where you pay acc contribution with
your registration.

Speaker 17 (01:04:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
Well if they smells the head's playing rugby. Yeah look, yeah,
I mean I mean, I'm hearing what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (01:04:23):
Yeah, yeah, I mean. It wouldn't be too hard or
too difficult for the government to levy every bike that
comes we scooter and then have some control that they
keep paying an annual fee. It wouldn't be too hard
to do my view. That's just my thought anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Oh, yes, and I guess it's pretty I criticized the
AA for bringing it up, but it seems as that
there's quite a lot of will for change with this.

Speaker 5 (01:04:46):
Yeah, I mean the helmets thing is crazy. We should
I mean, I don't know whether you cycle, I store
cycle a bit and you have to wear a helmet,
and it's you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Know, yeah, I hate helmets.

Speaker 18 (01:04:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:04:59):
Well, we're one of the few countries in the world
where I cycle on another country sometimes and helmets are
not required on a No. No, I.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Think it was a bad law. I think when you're
on a bike, you've got to realize you're a vulnerable
and you've got to take caution for that. So what
they did is they brought in the bikele helme, the
cycle helmet laws, and it just indicated to Pearans that
cycling was unsafe. And you know, in the bike sheds

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we're emptied out overnight.

Speaker 5 (01:05:31):
So yeah, well I cycle in Europe quite a bit, Marcus,
And and nobody wears a helmet there, nobody, not even
the kids. You know, it's because people take responsibility for themselves.
And also the driver is a little bit more courteous
to cyclists what I find anyway, Anyway, it's just my thoughts, Marcus. Anyway,

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enjoy your show.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Thanks, Ron. And look, every time our people people are
people get very hot and bothered about helmets, But yeah,
it's not the cross I want to die on eighteen
to ten. I hate helmets. Sounds like famous last words.
Oh yeah, and quite often you have to if you're
going on things like a you know, if we're doing

(01:06:18):
the City to Serve or Surf to City bike race
and things like that, you've got to wear a helmet
because it's an official event. They won't you hate the
strap under the but that's yeah. The kids will cycle
and they wear helmets and they're pretty good on them.
Where's my helmet? Famous words? But yes, my next thing,
I think probably this is probably a better idea. It's

(01:06:38):
going to be helmets on aeroplanes all that stuff are
and turbulence. I think that's I think we're going to
see that now lifetime. You call me stupid, call me ridiculous,
but I reckon that's going to be the next thing.
Watch the space Headle Midnight manas Marcus welcome oh eight
hundred and eighty to eighty nine, two nine to two
de text. But yes, helmets and cars will be your thing.
Helmets for pedestrians, all of it's possible that at prevent death. Yes,

(01:07:01):
get in touch if you want to talk. Oh, eight
hundred and eighty to eighty and nine two nine two
de text. So yes, if you want to be a
part of the show. We're talking helmets, well, manly, we're
talking here. But look, I know it's against the law
to ride a bike without a helmet, so I'm aware
of that. Some cities police it extremely assiduously. They've been

(01:07:26):
stopped in christ Dutch and Nelson. When I was stopped
in Nelson, I was filmed for police ten to seven.
I was stopped outside that restaurant on the waterfront cycling
from the airport. It's it called the boat House. It
wasn't a pleasant experience because the people in the restaurant

(01:07:47):
were sort of tapping on the window and the policemen
was sort of The policeman was sort of asking me
questions and they were filming, so the camera there as well.
I was excited for my holiday and Nelson I just
really got off the plane with my bike. I think
it was the boat she had cafe was where I
got apprehended. And I think what you had to do
then is by I think I've got to find for

(01:08:09):
that one. And in Christ you I think it was
nothing more reasonable. You had to actually go to the
police station with the receipt for a cycle helmet. I
don't know if they're police them as much these days,
but they certainly did. Marcus. I find it interesting the
Trump is on the visit to China. It's one of
the very few countries that is doing nicely. Thank you.
During the Israel USA's war against the Rahm electric car

(01:08:31):
sales have done well. Our whole school was allowed to
go to the nineteen ninety five America's Cut Parade. Every
awning on Queenstreet was full of people. Lucky one didn't collapse. Yeah,
I don't know where Lance was as good as are
still everywhere everywhere. Be in touch. If you want to
talk on Eterneight, my name is Marcus. Welcome eight hundred
and eight.

Speaker 16 (01:08:52):
Text.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
Do you want to come through anything else you want
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Mister Wards, Map Victory and Wellington Street by Street. Wow,
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(01:09:39):
Tapa Tomata. The author there Pastoral Care has got the
Best First Book Fiction Award, John Prince, No Good, Jesse
Mackay Prize for Poetry. Hang on, I might be ringing,
but there's three of them got that, did they?

Speaker 11 (01:09:59):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
I better go and reread that. Actually, So Sarah, it's
Marcus good evening.

Speaker 13 (01:10:06):
Oh hey, I was just.

Speaker 19 (01:10:07):
Hearing a conversation about these helmets, and I thought I
would ring up and put my view across.

Speaker 5 (01:10:13):
Right.

Speaker 19 (01:10:14):
So, I've got a couple of kids. I don't make
them wear their helmets if they don't want, but they
know if they fall off, it's really gonna hurt. Yes,
And I'm also in an industry where helmets have become compulsory,
especially on our side by side four wheel drives like
a quad but different.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
Yes, And I did try to fight.

Speaker 19 (01:10:37):
It because it boggles my mind. I can drive a
tractor or a large moer and not have to wear
a helmet, but on a side by side I do.
I was like, where's the logic in this? In which
I didn't get any It was just a you know,
health WORKFAFE has brought this out, so you now must comply.
I was like, but why and what's the difference between
my attractor and my side by side? They both have

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roll cages, they both have seat belts, but I don't
have to wear my helmet on a tractor. It was
a bit of a knee jerk reaction, I suppose from
work safe. But I tell you what I drive now.
I drive my tractor, so I don't have to put
my helmet on because I dislike them.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
Although, yeah, what are those motorbikes that farmers drive called?

Speaker 19 (01:11:23):
So those are a quad? And yes, I agree for
a quad because it doesn't have a roll cage, but
a side by side also known as RTV does have
a roll cage and seatbouts, so a lot safer than
a quad.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
But you now much because a lot of farmers have
a lot of farmers have died on quad bikes, have
swung that they've sworn black and blue. They should be
able to drive them without helmets, but they have died,
haven't they.

Speaker 19 (01:11:49):
It's normally crushing injuries like internal crushing, not from not
from the helmet head injuries. Yeah, so I did see
the argument. I do see a point. However, in a
work environment, I suppose they have to cover for all
things to keep them sounds safe as business owners. But
there's just certain in my world working on the ground,

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a little bit of logic missing somewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
When you say your kids could ride their bikes a helmet,
is that on the farmer or on the atarmac?

Speaker 11 (01:12:21):
Both?

Speaker 19 (01:12:21):
Bit of both? But yeah, it's not you know, it's
not a busy area. I'm not in a busy area.

Speaker 11 (01:12:26):
So if I was in the.

Speaker 19 (01:12:27):
Center of Auckland, and I know I was on the
weekend actually, just driving from north and through Henderson, and
I saw that big crowd, lots of them driving on
their bikes without helmets and being very crazy. I was
just like, whoa, what have we got here? Police presence
and all, but the police didn't seem to mind that
half of them didn't have their helmets on.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
Well, okay, so that and I guess it's about policing too.
Could free hard to identify them?

Speaker 19 (01:12:53):
Yeah, yeah, so I suppose it depends on where you
are and what the situation is. But I didn't actually
not was law that they must wear them.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
Yeah, I'm I'm sure about that too, Sarah. I'll look
into Thank you for your call. Keeping touch people by
them as Marcus welcome here midnight, we're talking about e
bikes and estcooters and then onto helmets. People love to
talk about helmets, Marcus. I ride an e bike daily
to work. I would never do it without a helmet.
I've known too many riders getting concussion even with helmets
on so many turkeys on the road. You need to

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preempt drivers turning opening doors. Often drivers don't want to
waste their indicator lights and use them at the last minute.
Plenty of good locking helmets on the market, so you
don't want you don't look so silly, don't track does
normally go on flat land? Sounds logical to me. Get
in touch if you want to talk. My name is
Marcus Welcome eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine text.

(01:13:47):
He's cut down on the properly investors. So that's happening.
Three bodies of women recovered from the sea in Brighton.
That's in Brighton, so her in the UK. I should
have mentioned that and Starma is still the leader. That's
a situation there. If you want to talk after the news,
feel free to come through. Who's got problems with fences?

(01:14:10):
My hedge grows into my neighbor's garden? Can he force
me to cut it?

Speaker 17 (01:14:14):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
Good luck with answering that one. Ten oh seven, Good evening.
All my name's make. We're talking about e bikes. It's
a wide ranging discussion. I haven't got strong opinions or
strong knowledge about them, although I do know that the
way we get around places is changing. It's kind of
changing in chaotic ways, but sort of very much. When
I go to Auckland, and that's probably twice or three

(01:14:35):
times a year, and obviously it's not my place of
residence now, but there's always people I need to visit
when i'm their family and stuff. And I've always used
those high scooters so much that probably the next step
for me would be to buy one. I'm just not
entirely sure where you'd leave it or what you do
with it, but yeah, they seem to be it just

(01:14:56):
works for me quicker than public transport. Well, I guess
it is public transport, and certainly I'm a lot more
convenient than ubers or taxis, but yeah, and quite enjoyable.
I guess it's not something you can ignore. It's good fun.
It's not really exercise, but it feels like you are exercising,
if that makes any sense. High kin ats Marcus, good evening.

Speaker 20 (01:15:19):
I think these persons have got quite a few agrievances
with these scooters. I think they should have compulsory insurance
and pay. There is compulsories wear your helmet. You don't
wear no helmet or no protective clothing. You carry your
own injuries you come over. And also also they can
do hundreds of found one hundreds of dollars words of

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damage to cars if they hit your car and you
had to have it, they've had the body were done. Also,
no writing, no riding on the pavements with these scooters.
But what's the difference. It's a vehicle. You try riding
a motor bike. Will drive your car on the pavement
and see how long it is before you get penolawed
for it. Same difference. And also they should be speed limited.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
Yeah, okay, I mean I don't I don't think. I mean,
I can appreciate what you're saying. I just don't know
how practical any.

Speaker 17 (01:16:14):
Of it is.

Speaker 20 (01:16:17):
Well, I mean the side of the straw, I mean,
how would you feel if you had a new car,
so I'm described all down the side of it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
Although that could happen with push bikes as well, couldn't it.

Speaker 20 (01:16:31):
Oh yeah, yeah sure, but to push by it don't
usually go as fars. And what the scooters are going?

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
Where do you think the scooters should ride on the
side of the road, on the side or on the
middle of the road, on the side.

Speaker 20 (01:16:46):
Of the road, one side of the road next to
the poodcast.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
Yeah, you're quite hot on they say, Oh yeah, well, I.

Speaker 20 (01:16:57):
Mean no I do. I probably do about forty five
thousand k's a year, and a lot of it is
grey as to Auckland. And you know, when I'll see
the way that they ride these scooters, I mean they drive,
they go straight through red lights and two interceptions everything
that you know, they don't need to worry about anybody else.

Speaker 3 (01:17:17):
Are these mainly the scooters as good as it?

Speaker 20 (01:17:21):
And then and they just abandoned them anywhere, like you know,
I think I'm thinking to myself, well, the blind person
was walking along, they wouldn't know, they wouldn't even know
there's anything there, so they all over it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
Well, I think that's the point. You can just leave
them where you want you.

Speaker 20 (01:17:36):
Shouldn't just leaven abandon that book path in the middle
of the book path.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
Yeah, my personal, you know, I mean I've asked the
people's personal, but you don't. I've enjoyed it. Have you
have you had a bad experience?

Speaker 20 (01:17:50):
I had a few close with him yet, Okay, what
the months ago? I was going down to g down
to down drafted road. And when I took off from
the from the from the trap on the tracks that
went to Green, I was going straight through and this
bond scooter grows straight acroads in front of me. I

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had to break har I want to bowl it straight
over becomes saxes the last one ready the other way,
and some and some of them you see her even
two up?

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
Now what does two up mean?

Speaker 20 (01:18:26):
Two people in the same scooter, two adults, one beyond standing,
one beyond the other.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
Or they doubling?

Speaker 20 (01:18:34):
Oh yeah, yeah, a few of them.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Yeah, okay, you've been on one.

Speaker 20 (01:18:41):
No, I wouldn't go one on. I'm seventy nine years
of age. I never broke a bone in my body
till I was seventy three, and I broke broke one
of my favorers. Wouldn't want to break anything else.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
How come you're doing so many How come you're doing
so many keys?

Speaker 20 (01:18:57):
Because I worked as a volunteer driver taking people from
medical appointments to hospitals and the super cleaners and stuff,
five days a week doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
What are you Who are you driving?

Speaker 20 (01:19:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I drive a Frank and samiy support
Oh yeah, okay, so an average up on me doing
about eight hundred a week.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
How did you break the bone in your body?

Speaker 20 (01:19:24):
Oh, I'm doing it. At the time, I was doing
a rural Mara Ron two days a week and the
driving the other driving the medical people the other four days.
And I fell out the van during the COVID period.
So I got the van in the hurry to give
something to somebody that was helping me. You fell out.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
You fell out of the van.

Speaker 20 (01:19:43):
Yeah, the driver's seat. I've got out tide to get
the van and hurry stop. Somebody's driving off who was
going to add too, was helping me and I break
my favorites. I found eleven Mieks in hospital.

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
Can It's been nice to talk to you. Thank you
so much for that. I can't tell you too. Just
this is news that's breaking that one of the twenty
one members of the Order of New Zealand has died.
The Government General has said I was standing to learn
of the passing of the Right Honorable Sir Kenneth Keith,
Order of New Zealand KBPC case one of New Zealand's
most distinguished jurists and public servants. Across the lifetime of service,

(01:20:20):
Sir ken bought exceptional intellect, integrity and depotment justice. His
contribution to us in public life and to international law
was profound, notably during his term on the International Court
of Justice. My thoughts are with his far no and
loved ones at this time. Faculty member of Victoria, University
of Wellington, Dean of the Law faculty from seventy seven
to eighty one, a professor emeritus, and there's plenty more

(01:20:45):
information there about him. He was eighty eight. So there's
are and that means that we will get someone else
will become an Order of New Zealand. Yeah, there are vacancies.
Doesn't have to be filled right away. There we go,
published widely on a number of topics. What about old

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people driving on the foot path on their scooter car thing?
Should they have helmets? Marcus, I've got a three dollar
fine for riding my bike without a helmet. Marcus Attractor
was a slow working speed eightyp has a high average
working speed. Pro race car drivers wear helmets role modeling
extraplate from that and everyone in the car should be

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wearing one lull. That's kind of the worry, isn't it.
I mean, should people on buses wear helmets? Probably not?
Sixteen past ten if you want to partake oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eight nine nine to de text
ma only we're talking at e bikes and es scooters.
That's the discussion. I clicked that badly. Eighteen pass ten.

(01:21:47):
Good evening, people. There's other stuff to talk about. We
talk about when the America's Cut Parade happened in nineteen
ninety five. Gosh, that was what was that? That was
just too full on, wasn't it. It was all about
the red Sox and things. I remember too. I was
working at TVNS and we're all forced to go and
film a commercial about socks. It felt very state and jingoistic,

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but you know, I guess people are into that. And
there was the parade with Sir Peter Blake and that
mustache and that yellow kind of mustard colored top that
they wore, he wore, they wore, but almost even I
can almost. I mean, the thing is, I'll tell you
something quickly about that. It shows you how memorable sponsorship was,
because I think probably I can vision how many years

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ago is that five thirty one years ago? I can
remember the sponsors on those shirts, and I think it
was Enza and Toyota and Lotto am I riter wasn't
something else anyway, It just shows Yeah, does it show anything? Peter,
it's Marcus good evening.

Speaker 18 (01:22:51):
I reckon, bring Judith Collins and crushed the whole all
of them, just having you on. I reckon they have
a place, you know, cheap means of transport and swill
for the young ones. They want to get made to
beat with these friends and stuff like that. I think
we've got to sort of pull the horse and a
little bit here and just say that if we ride bikes,

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it's the law. We meant the helmet on me riding
bikes should be no difference. You're riding one of those
same things. You have to wear a helmet time. Just
to bring a bit of common sense then, so we
can save the country some money with a c C.
We've got to pay for those injuries. Realize that insurance
companies and all that, because.

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
You can say that about mountaineering and rugby too, can't you.

Speaker 18 (01:23:35):
Yeah, but you don't realize that because you're coming off
on the ash calvel road you're gonna do damage to
subsistance already.

Speaker 3 (01:23:41):
But if you but if you're going to play rugby,
gona owner yourself eventually, aren't you.

Speaker 18 (01:23:45):
Yeah, it's a lot less. A lot.

Speaker 17 (01:23:47):
I mean, the the.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
Acc system kind of encourages idiotcy, doesn't it.

Speaker 18 (01:23:51):
No, there's a lot of people using those scooters now
and hit on the rugby field. Okay, but a lot less.
I say, it's a lot less Danish playing rugby than
riding one of those scooters. You come off, you're going
to do damage, And.

Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
I think, well, I think I think the statistics would
would disagree with you.

Speaker 18 (01:24:07):
I can get it's called common scenes. I was over
in Holland over there they.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
Not Holland again, surely.

Speaker 18 (01:24:15):
They had piece pucks over there. Same thing. If you
have skeulers over there, what they do is you share
the cycles.

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
When were you in Holland?

Speaker 18 (01:24:23):
Oh yeah, you need twenty two years ago and I
was last year. They had the speech over here they
had the word what they called pizza pack basically bicycles
right giving yourself and you being in Holland, you've been over.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
There, haven't been to Holland.

Speaker 18 (01:24:38):
Yeah, they're basically over there. They have skewed it. The
same thing. The police they're two leaning into here. We're
going to make it the fine the team in Australia,
we'll give you the privilege of using them. You're not
going to use common sense like wearing helmets. The police
have got a police find them and then you'll think
it change.

Speaker 20 (01:24:55):
But here in you.

Speaker 18 (01:24:56):
See it's looks like the whole belief country. You see
what they like. Plice are not really pleasing what they
should be pleasing. And if they can get fined to
government's revenue, you put you if you're if you're rain
things in it. But I think people start adhering to
the rules, common sense rules. You've got to have rules,
just the way there's all rules. We drive cars is
rules and they should be the same with those things

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as well.

Speaker 4 (01:25:16):
That's a put.

Speaker 3 (01:25:19):
I think the top activities for injuries for acc fitness
training and gym workouts, rugby union football, cycling, netball, adventure, tourism,
if you've got the stats for.

Speaker 18 (01:25:33):
Their for their school, isn't there acc, what's the steps
of the aces to have looked at up?

Speaker 5 (01:25:38):
What do I do?

Speaker 18 (01:25:39):
Ea?

Speaker 3 (01:25:39):
Scooter claims ACC.

Speaker 18 (01:25:42):
Again, get's right up there?

Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
What's not not? But but it's a developing situation, isn't it.

Speaker 18 (01:25:49):
Well, it's getting they're getting worse and worse for them.
But end of the days I see it before putting
myself in, it's common sense. Respect everybody and respect and
just common sense. If people don't get hurt, and I
reckon that they're previous down. A gentleman said, govern them,
but they can't go any far. I meant to train sport,
but not of that. I play the motif and so
doing one hundred comminers and now let's just beyond beyond credibility.

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Ready its sessionly is it's gone. It's gone too far.
Now just govern them?

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
Will you get on one?

Speaker 18 (01:26:20):
No, I've got a lot of funny knee and ankle.

Speaker 20 (01:26:22):
Now they wan't toffuse my ank What kind of funny the.

Speaker 18 (01:26:26):
Take on every placement data you have those injuries, don't
You don't take risks of those things anymore. It's just
not worth it. You only fall off in every recaverry time.
As you give injuries, you realize the recavery time they
have another injury, you just get my age. You don't
do that stuff. They more just not worth it, not
getting any younger. I liked it, but I don't know.
There's an old saying like clin Clinice would always see that.
Every man should know his limitations. You think you can't

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do it, don't do it. Otherwise you gonna do yourself
injury or somebody else injury as well.

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
Do you think you'll get back to Holland one day?

Speaker 18 (01:26:55):
Yes, I just can't. Kind of like it, but it's hell,
I've do you over here.

Speaker 14 (01:26:58):
It's pretty buy too busy for you.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
You talk about with becoming hill believe, but you're too
scared to go back.

Speaker 18 (01:27:04):
I should do that's about a cost now and retire.
He traveled so expen it's not cheap traveling no more, Marcus, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
Chip one hundred bucks and fear to go to Holland there, Pete,
which we have a peter athon. You got a pier
of You got a pair of wooden clogs at the
back door?

Speaker 18 (01:27:22):
Well, I got one in the front doors.

Speaker 13 (01:27:25):
My place back down front door.

Speaker 5 (01:27:28):
Good idea.

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
We have to get your wearing it one night. We
might get you wearing your clogs around the house, Peter
with your clip clop clopping around. That might be enjoyable,
mightn't it.

Speaker 18 (01:27:35):
Oh yeah, it's good music.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
Listen to Brilliant twenty five past ten. Hello Craig, it's Marcus.

Speaker 14 (01:27:42):
Welcome he could evening have it going to this evening?

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
Good?

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
Thank you Craig about the bet as well as it
can go for. I staid to Pete talk about Holland
for that anyway. Yeah, a couple of things, Well did
he did he bring a thing back for you? Well,
he hasn't been there for twenty two years, and I know.

Speaker 14 (01:27:58):
Did did he bring anything back for you? That's all
okay because of all he said is there for two years? Anyway?
No scoter things, I reckon they should her helmet. So
I had a classical one coming home from work today
down and Hamilton is like a wire expressway, so that's
eighty k zone. And there was a guy going along
in the scooter in one of the lanes, passing cars
and weaving in and out of cars. And Andy kay

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Zone on a scooter with no helmet and you just
got to take your I just looked at it and go, ah, boy, seriously,
he's just taking his life into his own hands. But
they should really have helmets or anything, because I mean,
even if you just hit like a stone on the
foot bath, the whole thing or to stop and flip
over and you hit the ground. But the only problem
is the helmets that even bike helmets in that if

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you hit the pavemente it gaus, you had protection on
the top, but that's about it. No protection on the sides,
nothing on your face. If you face plant under the concrete,
helmet's not really going to save much. But I've noticed
quite a few cyclists around Hamilton biking around the place
no helmet on. Then plice car goes the other way
and doesn't even stop them turn around to stop them.
So it's just complacency everywhere. So I don't really know
what we do to try and solve that problem.

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
But is it a problem? I guess it's the question.
Is the problem?

Speaker 13 (01:29:07):
Well?

Speaker 14 (01:29:09):
I think the main problem is like where I am,
there's like a walkway walk for exercise and stuff like that,
and there's a whole lot of people on these eBoy
sorry scooters and they're going well able running speed like
they're going probably I don't know what they are, probably
fifty six k's an hour. They shouldn't be going that
fast on the footpath. If you want to go that
fast being yourself on the road, they should be limited

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because I mean, I can judge speeds, but you get
a young kids on the pushbike, you're biking home or whatever,
and then someone's coming around the corner fifty k's and hours.
It has to them to tell. So they're just putting
other people in danger on a shared walkway. So they
should really limit them to a little bit, you know,
maybe running speed a little bit lower than running speed
in that because otherwise it gets really really dangerous for

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other users.

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
I mean, what I think is happening, Craig, is I
think we're going through a transport revolution. I think probably
the cars are on their way out and before long,
you know, maybe I don't want to want to panic,
but within twenty or thirty years, the majority of people
will be on battery, our bike, scooters, whatever. It'll be
a much different thing, and we need to find you know.
It's like I think when the stage we went from

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horses to motor vehicles and there's lot of panic at
the time, but everyone changed quite quickly. But everyone's getting
freaked out. But I think probably over time that might
be what's going to happen, is we're going to change
the way we move around because they're re effective and
they'rey cost efficient and the cheap to run.

Speaker 14 (01:30:32):
Yeah, you just got to be aware of other users
that are walking. I mean I always sort of weide
enough money, I buy myself one of these segways because
they look really cool, but unfortunately it's against the law
to ride a seagway and the footpath, so that doesn't
really help me out at all. But yeah, I mean
I can't understand where the world is going and everything's changing,
but you're still going to be aware of people like

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walking and outly people in net who don't move as
fast as other people you know, and just get basically
just comes down to respect, really respect for other users
on the footpath, and some people do.

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
Some people, I think I think with this it's more
than respect. I think it's I think people are freaked
out by what's there's panic with this as well, because
it's new and no one quite knows the rules, and
you can get where do you live in Hamilton? Because
you can pick up scooters anywhere and people are freaked
out because you could just get off them and leave

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them or that's pretty radical, isn't it.

Speaker 14 (01:31:26):
No one's oh yeah, but they leave them in the
middle of the foot path all over the place, so
they don't even put them onto the side of the footpath.
So I've had to move them out multiple times for
people and wheelchairs and mobility scooters to get past.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
And you think, just hang on, where are you when
you're doing this?

Speaker 14 (01:31:42):
This was going across the boundary road bridge, but multiple
times or once about three times in the last four years. Okay,
so not multiple times, but you know, I get yeah, okay,
but yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:31:56):
Yeah, you see you see that.

Speaker 14 (01:31:57):
You see them sort of being thrown in the river
because you walk on the River Beck you can see
them sort of half submits and the work at the
river as well. So I don't know what. People just
have something. It's more of a society thing more than scooters.
People just don't have respect for a lot of things nowadays,
which is a shame.

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
Craig, thank you so much. By the way, I know
how many orders have you said? And are there Dan
will there be nineteen or something now that we've got
we're down to thirteen, but twenty one is a ceiling, right?

Speaker 12 (01:32:27):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:32:27):
This is all very interesting from Dan. There was twenty
one because the coronation of the king. So I presume
the queen wasn't one because she was before that and
then he was. I don't know how that I anyway,
I'm just trying to think who would be one? Who's
the young How old is the youngest?

Speaker 5 (01:32:46):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
I don't think I do. Is the youngest Willia Piatta?
The youngest is forty five? And it's a male?

Speaker 5 (01:32:56):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:32:56):
Richie McCaw? Goodness? Okay? All the rest are in their seventies, eighties,
nineties or above. They're not above ninety?

Speaker 5 (01:33:04):
Are they?

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
Anyone? Or one in the hundredth I couldn't be one
of Them's one hundred and eight? Who's that? Dan?

Speaker 16 (01:33:12):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
So Lord Geering goodness me one hundred.

Speaker 17 (01:33:16):
And eight.

Speaker 3 (01:33:18):
And a heretic or faced heresy charges, didn't he? Goodness?

Speaker 17 (01:33:22):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
Goodness? One hundred and eight. Since seventeenth, septeen and twenty
twenty five, he has been New Zealand's oldest living man.
That's extraordinary. Ah, goodness I'm just floored by all of that.
So there we go, one hundred and eight. He's been

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us and the thing is, and I don't say this
lightly or glibly, but what is extraordinary as he's been
New Zealand's oldest person for six months. And the thing
about being New Sidend's oldest person, it's a hard honor
to have because you don't always last that long because
it's only going to be a matter of time. He's
Otago Boys High School too. Oh that's brilliant. I've enjoyed

(01:34:06):
reading about that. Now we're talking e bikes, YadA yadaya.
Twenty six away from eleven o'clock. Good evening, Roberts, Marcus, welcome,
How are.

Speaker 13 (01:34:18):
You, Marcus good?

Speaker 3 (01:34:19):
Thanks?

Speaker 13 (01:34:19):
Rob Good, gentleman. That was talking about the Netherlands or
Holland and the police being being tough on things that
he was correct. I was over there last year and
they're really tough on speed on the electric bikes and scooters,

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and they're all over the place, especially the Middle Eastern immigrants.
They all do the the the uber or deliveries. And
you know, I was just sitting in the middle of
den Hag and the square and yeah, the police were
walking up up and down those the streets, the small alleyways,

(01:35:07):
the square, and they were placing it.

Speaker 18 (01:35:09):
With a really tough.

Speaker 13 (01:35:13):
And the speed and no speed they go. It's it's unbelievable, Marcus.
You know, you know, you look at them and you
can see why why they produced a world if one
champion of motorcycle champions in Europe, the skills of them.
But yeah, yeah, they were pretty scary watching them going

(01:35:35):
into the other traffic and those tourist cities.

Speaker 3 (01:35:40):
I suppose you've got to hurry if you're if you're
a nuborist trying to make you yeah, yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:35:45):
Yeah, well you do. And they mainly had the electric
bikes with the big the big wheels and the big
rims and tires, so the big thick ones. Yeah, they
were all over the place there. Yes, l was interesting

(01:36:07):
to watch. I just sat down there in a big
square and I just observed it. Yeah, and it was
mainly the Middle Eastern immigrants that that that that had
those jobs and we're riding those bikes and scooters and
the speeds they were going with phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (01:36:24):
Where else did you go on your trip?

Speaker 4 (01:36:26):
Uh?

Speaker 13 (01:36:27):
Well, I started off in Paris, so I flew into
Paris from from Perth and I hired a car for
five weeks and I headed well, well, I just pointed
point where the car pointed, from Charles to Gaul. I
just headed out that way, ended up in the Champagne
region of France, went up the Reams and across through

(01:36:49):
Belgium into Limburg in the in the in the south
of the Netherlands, and then I went up north to
den Hager, had relatives up there. And then I went
back down through Belgium blocks and of Germany to the
south of France and then into the into the the

(01:37:15):
French Alps and over into into Italy.

Speaker 5 (01:37:18):
What was the car?

Speaker 13 (01:37:19):
It was a Citron, Yeah, it was a very year
had all the mod cons on it.

Speaker 18 (01:37:28):
And when did you When did you do it?

Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
When did you say you did this?

Speaker 17 (01:37:30):
Rob?

Speaker 8 (01:37:31):
Well?

Speaker 18 (01:37:32):
I flew I left Perth.

Speaker 13 (01:37:34):
I think it was on the sixteenth June and yah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
And I ended up We're living in We're living in Perth.

Speaker 13 (01:37:44):
No, no, no, well, well, look Mark, I flew out
of Auckland and I hired a ute at Toyota Highlux
and out of Kingsford Smith Sydney International, and it took
me six days to get from Sydney Sydney to Perth.

Speaker 3 (01:38:02):
I always wanted to hang hang on, hang on. Who
calls it Kingsford Smith?

Speaker 13 (01:38:07):
Well, well, it's it's Kingsford Smith International Airport.

Speaker 3 (01:38:11):
I do I call it clearly, clearly, clearly. And I
was just thinking. I was thinking about what, Yeah, what
did Kingford Smith do?

Speaker 17 (01:38:18):
What did he do?

Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
He was first person to fly.

Speaker 14 (01:38:20):
The what did he do?

Speaker 13 (01:38:21):
He wasn't he an aviator? You know one of the
first two?

Speaker 18 (01:38:26):
Did he did?

Speaker 13 (01:38:26):
He got around the globe or something?

Speaker 3 (01:38:29):
I can't remember what he did. I think it was
the first first translated flight between Australia and US in
and I'm not quite sure which way he went right right?

Speaker 15 (01:38:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:38:41):
So, yeah, I always wanted to drive across an Allybor.

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
When he died. Okay, Now I've got a lot of
questions for you about all of us. Okay, So you
flew to Kingsford Smith and you hired.

Speaker 13 (01:38:52):
At Yeah, I hired a Toyota Highlux.

Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
So what and did you pick that up from the airport?

Speaker 6 (01:38:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:38:59):
Yeah, Well, well I had to go not not at
the airport, but I had to go to the next
suburb over and it was a free bus, so it
was a ride and pick up and then I hang on.

Speaker 3 (01:39:11):
Don't say too much because I have a lot of
questions to ask you.

Speaker 13 (01:39:13):
Oh sorry, okay, yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
Then you know, and were they going to charge you
to return it?

Speaker 7 (01:39:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:39:22):
They did charge me in one way fee, but it
was like only three hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:39:25):
Bucks really from Perth.

Speaker 13 (01:39:29):
From Sydney the Perth year it was three hundred three
hundred Aussie dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
How much was how much was the car hire for
six days? Two grand or less?

Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
There?

Speaker 13 (01:39:37):
No, no, no, it was only about nine hundred bucks.

Speaker 3 (01:39:40):
It's not bad, is it.

Speaker 5 (01:39:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:39:42):
No, it was cheap as chips. That's why I've done it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:44):
And why did you do the high las? Well, we're
you going to sleep in the bed because they got
it's got a tray, isn't it.

Speaker 13 (01:39:50):
Well yeah, yeah, well I did sleep in that year year,
but I stopped off also with just at little country
pubs and the locals.

Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
I tell you, Marcus, it was hang on hanging okay,
So you get your high lugs And how many nights
did you sleep in back?

Speaker 13 (01:40:08):
I slept one, two, three nights okay.

Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
And then did you go to the Supermarke and do
a big shop of the Is it got a lockable
tray in the back.

Speaker 13 (01:40:18):
Yeah, it did, but I didn't use it because because
it had like a crew tab. But but you know,
it just one to chuck gearen not not not not well.

Speaker 18 (01:40:30):
Yeah, I could have slept in it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:32):
But I did you hit any Did you hit any kangaroos?

Speaker 5 (01:40:36):
No?

Speaker 10 (01:40:37):
No, no, no, so I was.

Speaker 13 (01:40:39):
I was quite weary of that. But no, no, no,
But I saw a lot of roadkill, a lot of
roadkill along the way.

Speaker 3 (01:40:49):
It was anotherble boring to drive.

Speaker 13 (01:40:52):
Look it it probably for most people, yes, and it's
it's it's very barren, but it's got its own beauty.
You know, a lot of the from the sea just
back off off the main highway a bit. You've got
these nice hillicks, you know. Yeah, it's amazing. It's amazing

(01:41:16):
countryside in the big long straits that they had. They
were also areas were sectioned off for aircraft to fly
if they had emergencies or had to fly stuff, and
they could land on the highway.

Speaker 6 (01:41:33):
Here was.

Speaker 13 (01:41:35):
I loved it, loved it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:36):
It's a real bucketless thing to do, isn't it. That's great? Yeah,
I'm into this, Okay, that's what you did.

Speaker 12 (01:41:43):
Okay, yeah, yeah, so you still.

Speaker 3 (01:41:46):
Did you pick up any did you pick up any
hit chokers?

Speaker 5 (01:41:51):
No?

Speaker 13 (01:41:52):
No, but I met some interesting people.

Speaker 17 (01:41:54):
Look.

Speaker 13 (01:41:54):
I was between the place called Terrang and Minion and
I was traversing because I went off the highways and
it was just one of those red red deserty roads.
And there was a guy walking out there. You'd never
pick him up. And I stopped, you know, and he
had had this beard on and he looked like he

(01:42:17):
was had six fingers on one hand. And yeah, I said,
oh you're right mate, you going anywhere? And he said,
oh yeah, no, no, no, I'm good, I'm good. So
you know, I just kept on going. Yeah, it's a
fascinating country. It's it's and how dry it is in
some places, unbelievably dry.

Speaker 3 (01:42:38):
Love Australia. Okay, that's a good story. Okay. And then
he just got did you spend time in Perth or
just drop your ut off at the airport and off
you went?

Speaker 13 (01:42:45):
No, No, I spent yeah, year, Well I overnighted there.

Speaker 19 (01:42:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:42:49):
We went into the city and he tried the cuisine
and walked about and yeah, you got up the next day,
went to the airport Blue flew Malaysia. It wasn't no
Pi tier waste, tire waste to Bangkok, Bangkok, to to
to Paris.

Speaker 3 (01:43:08):
Had you just retired or something?

Speaker 13 (01:43:10):
No, no, no, no, I just I just bag it off.
I've closed the business for seven weeks and now I
just made it happen. Marcus, what's your business? Oh well,
I've got a catering food trailer business.

Speaker 3 (01:43:23):
But but Marcus, I've talked to you before you are you?

Speaker 13 (01:43:27):
Yeah, I'm Atomi. But Marcus, A lot of people say
to me, They say, oh, how did you do that?

Speaker 6 (01:43:32):
How did you do that?

Speaker 13 (01:43:32):
I'm going to have to win loto. I said, no, no,
you'll never go. You'll never go if you're waiting for lotto. No,
I'm baggering off. In a few weeks, I'm going back
to Ossie and I'm going to a food and wine
festival in Sydney, and later in the I'm going to
all the wife wants.

Speaker 14 (01:43:51):
To go to Was she.

Speaker 3 (01:43:54):
You didn't talk about her wife? Did she go with you?

Speaker 4 (01:43:56):
No?

Speaker 13 (01:43:57):
No, she went to South America at the same time
that I left. She went with a friend to South America,
went to ment to teach you and Ecuador and the
Galapicus Islands.

Speaker 3 (01:44:09):
Now you talk about your food truck, right, and it's
fairy humble. It's fretty humble sort of food.

Speaker 17 (01:44:14):
Right.

Speaker 13 (01:44:15):
Yeah, yeah, well good New Zealand Tucker.

Speaker 3 (01:44:17):
It's like toasted sandwiches and stuff. So what sort of
food am I?

Speaker 4 (01:44:21):
Right?

Speaker 13 (01:44:22):
Yeah, look now not toasted sandwiches, No, No, I do. Look, Marcus,
if you're going to event, you've got to read your crowd.
So so look, if I sold chips and hot dogs,
I'd be broke. But I go to certain events. I said, right.
I was up at Messy in the weekend for a
it was a one or two striders marathon, So I said, right,

(01:44:45):
they're going to want healthy food. So I done salads
and stuff like that. You know, chips, because chips always good. No,
You've got to be flexible and what you sell and
read your crowd. This weekend, I'm going to a to
a rugby league tournament, jurni rugby league tournament. Or they
want fries, they want burgers and that sort of stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:45:06):
But the question that I want to ask you, yes,
what sort of food and wine festival you're going to?

Speaker 13 (01:45:12):
Well, well it's at the ICC Sidney Convention Center in
Darling Harbor and that they have live cooking displays from chefs,
they have hunted elly wine, they have cheeses from all
around Australia, they have displays. It's a three day event
from the nineteenth to the twenty first of June. So look, look,

(01:45:37):
I'm always looking. I'm always looking for their advantage or
something just out my game. You're going to be looking
at your business all the time and keep ahead of
the competition.

Speaker 3 (01:45:48):
Lovely to talk, Rob Thanke, you stay in touch. Twelve
away from eleven Flip loved ron Flap. Hey Wow, I
don't want to freak people out, but I read a
really interesting article today about the hantavirus written by an epidemiologist,

(01:46:15):
and this is the one that's and one of those
people came off that ship and then went to the
Pitkin Islands. Could you think of a more stupid place
to go if you've just been exposed to a virus
and the Pitkin Islands inaccessible with no medical care anyway,
But what the article said by an epidemiologist is that

(01:46:39):
everyone says he doesn't think it's going to be a pandemic, right,
he doesn't think it's going to blow out of control.
But what the thoughts of this article was is that
all the experts are saying it's not that contagious, and
he's saying clearly it is very contagious. So yeah, it's

(01:47:01):
he doesn't Yeah, he thinks will be contained, but he's
worried about the information people are putting across eight away
from eleven five from eleven people, welcome. I was going
to give you a worries score. I must be watching
an old game on the thing. Yeah, wow, Mark is

(01:47:23):
just checking that. You realize when you ask Dan questions,
we can't hear his answers really, so it's dead air
and not good listening. You don't even know of his answering.
He mightn't even exist. That's like bearing in mind that
merv Smith and that great broadcaster from Wellington that died

(01:47:49):
a year or two ago began with an l name.
They both had what was his name? That guy Lindsay Yoh,
Both Lindsay Yo and move Smith. They spent their whole
life life talking to someone that was imaginary Buzzer bumble

(01:48:14):
and McCleary. So for me, it's a nod to that.
But yeah, sometimes I realized, But thank you dez under
two dollars in Melbourne. Thank you, Ben Marcus. You seem
to have a preconceived idea about electric bikes electric scooters.
What a previous caller is trying to explain is the

(01:48:35):
unsafe speed these people are traveling at. We don't have
a problem with the technology. For example, one of the
most unsafe places in christ to each other streets around
Kroschet Hospital where the staff are riding on the footpath
and shared spaces, are ridiculous speeds on electric bikes electric scooters. Well,
that's a planning challenge. I think someone says, should we
get a person with a flag to walk in front

(01:48:56):
of a scooter? I think we're going through a modal change.
But that's all right. I'll chip in fifty bucks to
get peaked to Holland. Well, I'll giving them one hundred.
I just think he'd enjoy it because he loved it
so much twenty two years ago. And I think, well,
I think we should seen Pete with Rob because Rob
was almost the anti Pete. Want Hee there and driving

(01:49:19):
and just loving it. Anyway, So there we go. But people, yeah,
I don't necessarily know that that I have the wrong opinion.
I don't think of one opinion. I just think they're
that they I've got preconceived ideas. I just think that
they are that people seem to like them. Not they're
not going away. It's not a flesh on the pan thing, Marcus.

(01:49:41):
I think the police have more important issues, such as
the myth issue New Zealand is riddled with. If any
e bike or scrut can do over fifty k's under
its own power, then it needs a plate and indicators
and lights. Pretty simple.

Speaker 17 (01:49:51):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:49:55):
That's what we've got to tell you so far. Tonight,
be in touch if you want to talk. My name
is Marcus. Anyone hitting over to Magic Round that starts soon? Yes? Also,
anyone watched that TVC? Is that the shift from Emmasfield
the one they've canceled. I don't know that was good
or not. You might want to mention that too. Fifteen
past eleven, Good evening, lou This is Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 21 (01:50:17):
Hi Marcus. Hey, I was just going to turn into
bed and I heard you. I just caught the end
of you talking to about a man that was one
hundred and eight. Yes, and yesterday I was in Palmerston
North in an old people's home and there's a lady
in there.

Speaker 11 (01:50:34):
That's just turned one hundred and thirteen.

Speaker 3 (01:50:37):
Goodness, how is she?

Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
Hey?

Speaker 20 (01:50:41):
Jesus, bright as a button. She's a little poorly on.

Speaker 21 (01:50:46):
The vision because I've got I've got a long bed.
And she asked me to come closer to her so
she could spiel my face. And the first thing she
said to me is I need a shave.

Speaker 3 (01:50:57):
So you are you? Are you a magician?

Speaker 21 (01:51:00):
Now I'm a career.

Speaker 3 (01:51:01):
But did you say you had a bird?

Speaker 19 (01:51:04):
Now?

Speaker 11 (01:51:04):
I had a beard?

Speaker 13 (01:51:05):
A beard?

Speaker 3 (01:51:06):
Ah, I thought you had a bird. I thought, we.

Speaker 17 (01:51:10):
Are you?

Speaker 3 (01:51:10):
Are you a Kira at her home?

Speaker 21 (01:51:13):
No, I'm not. I'm a care for an elderly lady
in Hunterville. And I went over there to see one
of her friends.

Speaker 3 (01:51:22):
And as the woman is one hundred and thirteen, is
she in a home?

Speaker 4 (01:51:25):
No?

Speaker 21 (01:51:26):
Yes, she's in her home. Yes, yep. And the lady
that's in the next room is one hundred and two. Okay, yeah, anyway,
love the show.

Speaker 3 (01:51:38):
But she is I am looking at She is New
Zealand's oldest person, I think, or she's recognized as being
the oldest person in Oceania. Yes, what are her initials?

Speaker 11 (01:51:48):
Ak, Yes, that's right.

Speaker 21 (01:51:51):
Yep. Well you want to pop in one day and
just see her, just to.

Speaker 20 (01:51:55):
See the oldest.

Speaker 21 (01:51:56):
I just thought it was really really good. I just
knocked on the door because I just found out that
she was the oldest person in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:52:03):
So the oldest woman is her, right, yeah, yep. Then
there's a woman who is one hundred and ten years,
then a woman who's one hundred and eight years in,
a woman who's a hundred and eight years. Then there's
Lord Gearing who was the oldest man and he's one
hundred and eight years. So most of them in the
guy called Bruce Powell, who's yeah, it's cool, right, unbelievable.

Speaker 21 (01:52:25):
Yeah, she's she's forty two years older than me.

Speaker 3 (01:52:32):
And she was in good spirits.

Speaker 21 (01:52:34):
Oh mate, she was one hundred miles an hour.

Speaker 18 (01:52:36):
It was amazing.

Speaker 7 (01:52:40):
It was amazing, Marcus.

Speaker 11 (01:52:42):
Yeah, it was really cool.

Speaker 3 (01:52:44):
Is she is she mobile?

Speaker 21 (01:52:46):
Well, she was a sweet when I well, she was
in her little bed when I saw her. But I
don't know whether she gets up and that I didn't
stay very long, you know, because I didn't want to win, true,
but it was yes, she's brought here is a button mate,
brought as a button.

Speaker 5 (01:53:00):
Do you know what?

Speaker 3 (01:53:01):
Yeah, she was born Well I didn't ask.

Speaker 21 (01:53:04):
That because yeah, I didn't get I didn't go into
all that because she was a little bit tired at
the time.

Speaker 11 (01:53:09):
But yeah, but she would she would have been born
before motor cars.

Speaker 7 (01:53:14):
Well was she was it?

Speaker 3 (01:53:16):
She was born in nineteen thirteen.

Speaker 17 (01:53:19):
Wow.

Speaker 21 (01:53:20):
Yeah, that's that's amazing the way to think that she's
the oldest lady in New Zeenand it just blew me away, mate.

Speaker 20 (01:53:28):
It blew me away.

Speaker 5 (01:53:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:53:31):
Yeah, she's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:53:34):
Yeah, that's a that's a really good story.

Speaker 5 (01:53:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:53:36):
I like that, like all of that.

Speaker 21 (01:53:38):
Yep, and I like all of your shows.

Speaker 20 (01:53:40):
So I'll let you get on with it, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:53:41):
I that lo thank you for that. There we go,
one hundred and thirteen, raised on a farmer keen boorom, dancer,
frigging plenty of water, enjoying a heavy disposition and loving
her family, and she's the oldest Oceania. Now I don't
even know this is going to sound silly. I don't
know what Oceanya is. Is Australia and Oceania, Oceania and

(01:54:05):
PACIFICA Is it just Australia. No, Australia is in there.
Oceania comprises Australasia, Melanesia, Micronesia and Polynesia, so it's a
big area where she's the oldest. We had a centenarian
neighbor in Bluff. I think she has since died. I
think she was She was a certain one hundred and
three or something like that and always seem to be
good spirits. Now it's twenty past levely want to be

(01:54:28):
on air to night. My name is Marcus Good Evening
and welcome eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine
to ninety to text Marcus my evening, Marcus, my daughter,
My daughter and her husband are flying to Brisbane at
six am. We have reenvisive decided we are going next year.
We'll be watching every game. It's a different level atmosphere
and URL is fizzing with regular rounds, so this weekend

(01:54:51):
is the magic round people. For those that RUGBIA League adjacent,
that means all the games I think are played at
the stadium in Brisbane, so fans from Australia go there.
I think in the state of origin. Women's State of
Origin is tomorrow night too. But those that follow league
and I find myself watching quite a lot of it
because it's always on at work when I'm here. But

(01:55:13):
those that follow the league, Ivan Cleary is leaving the
penwith panthers, which is something I thought I'd never say,
after those other coaches like Craig Bellamy and the Canberra
coach and you have been there forever. And look at
Wayne Bennett, who's you know, vera ald that been. But
they don't seem to lose their love of it. But
he's decided it's time for other things, and good on them.

(01:55:36):
We've got a number of premierships under his tutelage. Oh
this is interesting. Thank you for that, Yost Marcus, listening
to you from the Netherlands. Holland is a province lull
a good point. Scooters or bromfaiettes as they called here
have been banned from the Fretch Spark bike path through

(01:55:57):
about six years due to extant and idiot riders. They've
also enforced the scooter boys to wear helmets, which was
not the case. Now we are on the pro of
banning fat bikes electric bikes with fat tires as they
are a menace on the face spart often ridden by
ten to fifteen year olds. Doubled or tripled up and

(01:56:17):
tweaked fire an app simple rewiring to go over sixty
k's an hour. There have been many tragic excitents here
with these kids. Amsterdam has just banned them in Vondal
Park and another village has banned them in the center,
with other towns and cities following. Eastwood has were banned
here until recently, but and are allowed now, but only

(01:56:40):
one to prove brand and strictly moderated. You very rarely
see one here amongst the thousands of cyclists who instantly
have right of way over all traffic including pedestrians, although
taking on trams on your single speed is not recommended.
Love the show from New Zealand. Love the show from Zealand, Yust.
I'm a big fan of the single speed, Jost. So

(01:57:01):
good to hear about that. So that's good to hear from.
So yes, that's a plan now with you till midnight
tonight if you want to talk, as I say, oh
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Now this is an
interest to you who involved with the NRL. The Queensland
Government has revealed the NRL's showpiece Magic Round will remain

(01:57:24):
in Brisbane until at least twenty thirty two, after reaching
a deal with the NRL. Whilst set to explore in
twenty twenty seven months understood the queens And Government has
secured a contract extension. Poaching threats have been circling from
Sydney and Perth, even potentially New Zealand, but Queens And
Premier David in Crease have fully confirmed the festival remain

(01:57:45):
in Brisbane for now. I think they pay big money
for the rights to it. I've never been. It's not
probably my cup of tea. I like the smaller provincial venues,
but there would be something I don't know. I would
imagine that that will feel like our home match for
the Warriors. The crowds they are getting at the Aussie

(01:58:05):
venues seem extraordinary and Brisbane seems to be kind of
Warriors central as far as for the kiwis over there,
so yeah, that's exciting. I'm just looking at the draw now.
Sharks Bulldogs Friday at eight, Rabbit O's Dolphins Friday ten,
Tigers see Eagles. That's the match of the round. Saturday

(01:58:28):
five pm. Roosters Cowboys Saturday seven thirty, Eel Storm Saturday
nine forty five and then two games on the Sunday
Titans versus the Knights, and then the Warriors versus the Broncos. Oh,
and then the Panthers versus the drag Gosh, a lot
of matches. Sounds pretty interesting. What's happening in holt Are,
the Netherlands. Yeah, I'm sort of missed the memo we're

(01:58:49):
supposed to stop calling it Holland. But yeah, I have
known that, Yost. But out of respect to you, I'd
like to live in a city for a while when
you can cycle like that. Where are all the plus
sized girls shopping without paying crazy prices?

Speaker 17 (01:59:02):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (01:59:03):
Thanks for that, some thirty six female. Not that really
means much, but always listen through the night. In the mornings,
AB's fly whatever. Sponsored work extremely hard. It's completely different
to what all us do as a normal job. Not
just a sport. But the media run a business, then
you can run it.

Speaker 12 (01:59:20):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:59:21):
I don't definitely understand there, but I appreciate your enthusiasm. Antonio.
It's Marcus.

Speaker 16 (01:59:24):
Good evening, Good evening, mar can see you and all
your heirs. Yeah, there was a woman Thomas and North
here whose son got killed on a bicycle because he
didn't have a helmet, So she campaigned for people to
put helmets on their heads on the bicycles and she

(01:59:46):
was successful with that. And I think that the people
are driving on these e bikes they should have helmet
on because they're going far too fast. The other day
I had my mobile in my hand and someone would
passed and knocked the mobile at the my hand in

(02:00:07):
the air and smashed and.

Speaker 3 (02:00:09):
Carry it on. Were they on? Did you say you're
in Palmerston North, Yes.

Speaker 16 (02:00:16):
I'm in palmers and R they're having the main streak.

Speaker 3 (02:00:19):
Do you have those highest scooters there, like the ones
that are just parked on.

Speaker 16 (02:00:24):
The side of the road.

Speaker 3 (02:00:25):
Yes, was it one of those?

Speaker 16 (02:00:28):
Yes, it was one of those.

Speaker 17 (02:00:30):
Wow.

Speaker 16 (02:00:31):
I reported it to the council where they said they
couldn't do anything about them.

Speaker 3 (02:00:35):
They probably could. They probably could get the data from
the scooter company.

Speaker 16 (02:00:40):
Yes, but the person who used that, I don't know
it'll be traced.

Speaker 3 (02:00:46):
I don't think it would be that difficult, but they
probably wouldn't want to do it because it would mean
that then in fact, they're yeah, what was your phone wrecked?

Speaker 16 (02:00:54):
Oh, yes, it was smashed.

Speaker 3 (02:00:56):
I got a new one through insurance.

Speaker 16 (02:01:00):
No, I just bought a new one from the phone
company a friend of mine owns.

Speaker 3 (02:01:05):
Are your free names of phone company that tend yees?

Speaker 16 (02:01:09):
So I just got another one.

Speaker 3 (02:01:11):
You ever been on a knee scoot yourself?

Speaker 4 (02:01:13):
No?

Speaker 16 (02:01:14):
No, I never have.

Speaker 3 (02:01:15):
It's probably a bit of a have you often I think,
I think they're extremely good, but you know, I know
that they've got challenges with people wanting to know where
they should be, where they should be on the road
of the footpath, so I can kind of identify with that.

Speaker 16 (02:01:30):
Yes, it's all about balance, Marcus. My balance isn't very
good these days.

Speaker 3 (02:01:35):
No, it must be frightening too. You would you walk
with a cane?

Speaker 4 (02:01:39):
No?

Speaker 16 (02:01:39):
No, Still I still walk about five to ten to
six miles a day, and there keeps me fit. But
I don't walk with a cane yet, Marcus.

Speaker 3 (02:01:52):
I think five to six miles a day years? Excuse
me for ten kilometers years? How long does it take?
Two hours?

Speaker 16 (02:02:03):
It's about that.

Speaker 3 (02:02:06):
Do you do it all on the flat?

Speaker 8 (02:02:08):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (02:02:09):
It's free, time consuming, isn't it.

Speaker 7 (02:02:11):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (02:02:12):
Yes, But it's good for the body, Marcus.

Speaker 3 (02:02:15):
It's extremely good.

Speaker 16 (02:02:17):
And also I know the art of filling the diaphragm
up first before filling the lungs up.

Speaker 3 (02:02:27):
What sort of shoes you're rocking?

Speaker 16 (02:02:30):
Well, just ordinary size fifteen shoes, siponds.

Speaker 3 (02:02:37):
It's a big foot you've got.

Speaker 16 (02:02:39):
Oh yes, are you talking me?

Speaker 6 (02:02:42):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (02:02:44):
How tall?

Speaker 16 (02:02:45):
Oh be at six foot?

Speaker 3 (02:02:47):
Goodness? How often do you wear through your shoes?

Speaker 7 (02:02:51):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (02:02:53):
About you read two months? I've got another black peer here.
I've got a gray peer and winging there, but I've
got a brand new black peers sitting there.

Speaker 3 (02:03:04):
Do you listen to podcasts or anything when you walking?
Or just listen to the world?

Speaker 14 (02:03:08):
No, I just walk.

Speaker 3 (02:03:10):
Bristoly Marcus brilliant, Good on you, Antonio inspiring.

Speaker 5 (02:03:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:03:17):
I met it Go in Australia and Old Go an
old kettle farmer from Queensland. I was tramping and with
him and he recommends ten k's a day. He sits
essential and he was that was that was his guide
to life and I certainly agree with him.

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