One hat, the other hat (24 June 2026)

Marcus talks ranch dressing, Bob's aversion to Deep Heat, MMP's 5% threshold, and the legendary NZ cricketer Bob Blair.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus lush Night's podcast from News Talks, that'd.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Be greeting's welcome, nice to have you along. People. People
are just tuned and already get already and they're getting
ready to go. Good on you. Hope it's hope, it's good.
Hope it gets better by the time midnight. Gum, there
might be snow. No now, how will we know that
from you? If you are a driver, if you're trucking,
they reckon, the rain will turn to snow. That's going

(00:32):
to be our first snowfall. Good for skiing, perhaps bad
for drivers. So that's gonna happen. I'll see. Also the fairies,
the entrant fairies are cancing tomorrow, I think is a
high swell. So that's it's a concern. But it seems
to be happening more often. I guess that's the result
of better weather forecasting. And I don't know what it's

(00:53):
a consequence of, actually, but that seemed to be happier
to pull the pin on firies and we get good notice.
So that's happening. So let's stay to talk about that.
Get in touch Heit til twelve eight hundred and eighty
eight nine two if you do want to come through.
Someone's emailed me they won't vote for the Opportunity Party
because they want to get rid of cats. I don't

(01:15):
know if that's still a thing for those that don't know.
I think the Opportuniti's Party was started by Gareth Morgan,
who was also keen to get rid of cats, but
I don't know. I think he wore two hats. I
think one hat was the anti cat hat, the other
cat was. One hat was the anti hat cat, the
other hat was the Opportunity Party's cat hat. I'm going

(01:36):
to try and say that again. One hat was the
anti cat hat and the other hat was the Opportunity
Party hat. So a cat hat and a change of
government hat. I don't know that he's still involved, and
from what I've seen of the leader of the party
and haven't done a deep dive on their policy yet,
but what I understand is that the new party is

(01:58):
about tax reform and stuff. I don't think they're about cats.
But I guess if you want a reason to vote
for them and cats as your reason, then I can't
push back on that because I don't know. I mean,
that's kind of what it's like isn't it. You might
want to ring and talk about that. Oh the other thing,
I've got a lot of topics note are the Opportunity Party?

(02:21):
I'll ask church? Are the Opportunity Party cat haters? The
Opportunity Party in news in and is not inherently anti cat,
but they founder economist Gareth Morgan is famous for us
outspoken of using campaigns against wandering cats, and twenty thirteen

(02:42):
Morgan launched the Cats to Go campaigns with the Morgan Foundation,
arguing the domestic cats with serial killers that decimated local
bird populations. He encouraged owners to keep cats and doors
and not replace them once they passed. However, these views
bloged the parties found there are not official active policy
for the party itself. Top's current political platform focus on

(03:02):
BRADI It brought it issues like housing affordability, environmental sustainability,
tax reform rather than targeting cats, although when it says
environmental sustainability, you know there's a bit of a loophole
there That might be about the cats and getting rid
of the cats. Anyway, you might be pro cat and
pro Opportunity Party. Good on you. What disappoints me about

(03:26):
that AI three paragraph statement there doesn't mention the cattio,
and we talk a lot about the cattios because the
catios are where the cats are safe. They can run
around but not threaten the birds.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
One of the sub stories of the Football World Cup
that happening currently in the United States and Mexico and
Canada is that a lot of the people traveling from
around the world forty eight countries have gone to the
United States of America and Canada and Mexico and.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
They have fallen in love with America and American culture
and American food and the food that they have gone
absolutely uts, nuts, French Latin, pig Latin. What they've got
UT's nay for is ranch dressing, which is a recent
thing that was invented in the nineteen fifties and it's
got buttermilk and dill. And I don't know anything about it,

(04:24):
and I don't know that I've experienced it, So I
guess this is not my major topic for tonight, but
just putting it out there, is that something that I
could experience in New Zealand? Where would someone have a
good ranch dressing? I think I've seen it's just in
the noise in the background. I think, oh, ranch dressing.
I'm not really a dressing guy, but could you talk
to me about ranch dressing to people? Is it available here?

(04:46):
Do people have it? To people obsessed about it because
the influences and the social media stars in America are
going nuts for ranch dressing and they're even trying to
work out how they can take it back to their
country and all these sorts of things. Now, that is
not the topic for four hours. But it's good that
the Americans have invented something genuine that the world is

(05:08):
in love with from a food point of view, because
most of their other foods are elsewhere. The Caesar saling
from Mexico, the hamburger from Germany. They haven't invented much
of their own. Oh, kfc A is that their is
fried chicken?

Speaker 4 (05:23):
A thing?

Speaker 2 (05:24):
I guess it is. So if you want to talk
about ranch dressing, you might be a chef, you might
be an enthusiast. If you know about that. That's a
good thing for me to talk about tonight. Ranch dressing.
So I've got no idea what it's like anyway. Ooh, Marcus,

(05:45):
with respect. Europe is shutting down in forty degree heat.
People are dying, and climate changes here and you want
to talk about cat haters, what's wrong with z B. Well,
I don't want to talk about cat haters. I just
asked if the party was still anti cat Then I
mentioned ranch dressing. If you want to speak for four
hours about climate change, you're welcome to, although I will

(06:09):
warn you of the other talk station. What was it called?
Was it called Magic Talk or was it called Today?
And that had a lot of hosts that weld gone
about climate change, and they attracted the climate change deniers
and in the end the station became wolter Wall climate
change deniers. Next thing, and it went bang because the
advertiser didn't want anything to do with it. So there
we go. Ranch dressing. If I'd gone to a super

(06:32):
bag and they would have bought someone, I wouldn't have
known what to have done with it. I don't even
know where I have dressing. So that might be something
you can talk about tonight. Fifteen parts the other thing,
and this is going to require a bit of a
side pivot for me. And what I'm going to say
is slightly tangential. And today Bob blaired eyed and he

(06:57):
is a cricketer with a fantastic connection to history and
I wonder if some people out there can tell this
story of Bob Blair better than I can. The story
that I know is that he was in South Africa
playing for these in cricket team and word came through

(07:19):
that his fiance I think, had died on the train
from Wellington to Walkland that went off the rail bridge
at Tongueway because the bridge was taken out from a
laha from Altupehu. And I've heard other people tell the story.
They've told the story extremely in an extremely moving way.
But anyway, you will know the story, perhaps better than I.

(07:40):
But they're in a test and they're getting hammered in
the test and a number of the batsmen had got injured.
He wasn't going to play because of the news and
the grief that he had received. However, things conspired against
him and the team needed him, and there is a
story of him walking across the field to bat with
the whole people in the crowd, knowing the tragedy that

(08:01):
had befallen him, and to remarkable story. Now you might
have some of that wrong, but there'll be cricket historians
out there that will know details more than I do.
And it's an extraordinary story. I'm reading from stuff it
says though he originally though he initially stayed back at
the team hotel, Degrieve, Blair emerged from the player's tunnel

(08:24):
on day two, when his team was in trouble and
down to their last wicket, he strayed out to join
a bloody A bloodied Bert Suckcliffe had earlier been to
the hospital and backfull and numerous blows by the cricket
ball while batting. The crowd of twenty three thousand fell
completely silent, and players from both sides wept. Now, every
time I've heard that story told, and every time I

(08:46):
read about that occasion or hear about it, it's it
always seems to me to be the most moving snapshot
of a moment in world cricket. So if you know
some more about that, if you'rre cricket tragic, can tell
me more about that. I don't think they won the Test,
but if you know more, if you're a cricket fan,
if you've got men and w to one of those books.

(09:10):
The Test match inspired the tongue Awai shield for tests
between New Zealand and South Africa for men's Test series.
So it's a huge part of history, and yeah, it's
just a great story. And being someone that loves cricket
and someone that loves trains and always interested in tragedy, yeah,
she's a pretty perfect story that. But yeah, get in

(09:33):
touch Marcus till twelve, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
and nine two nine two detect if you want to
come through here till twelve. There is other stuff, no
doubt we can talk about tonight. I will keep you
updated on yous throughout the next three hours thirty minutes.
But it will snow tonight. If you know the snow.
If you're in the snow, let me know more about that,
where that is and how that's going for you. But

(09:54):
already I think we've got some things to go on about.
Did you know that forty people have drowned in France
during the last three days it wave. Yes, I'm aware
of that. And people were killed in cars too, with
cars overheating. I also know they've had to shut down
nuclear power plants because they use river water for cooling
the plants and the temperature of the river water at

(10:16):
the intake is too high so wouldn't work as a coolant.
I don't know what the critical temperature is. But yes,
a lot to talk about tonight. But certainly I'd like
to talk about the cricket and Bob Blair, and certainly
i'd like to talk about cats, and certainly i'd like
to talk about ranch dressing. Yes, so that's the way

(10:37):
it's going to go tonight, Johnny, it's Marcus. Good evening
and welcome.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
I just just said visions of home with Simpson letting
all the hot water out into the river.

Speaker 6 (10:48):
Oh, dear, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
I was going to say, I don't know much about
how the Springfield power plant was cooled, but I do
know that fish on the river had three eyes, didn't it.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
Yeah, Oh it's pretty crazy. Yeah, it was great. It's
around that mister Burns, doesn't he He's a great gift. Look,
I've got a pretty simple one for ranch dressing.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
It just are you family? Are you familiar with range dressing?

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (11:18):
Yeah, I made a few learned to make a few
dressings at the Baplany Politic Catering School when I was
about fifteen a century ago.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
So ranch dressing has been around on yours end for
a long time.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Has it. Yeah?

Speaker 5 (11:32):
Yeah, it's just not been really served in other Cats restaurants,
probably tall the late nineties. I think you know, from
mid to late nineties, it's going to sort of appear and.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
It's butter, milk and dellas. It is that what's in it?

Speaker 5 (11:45):
Yeah, Yeah, you wouldn't get it at the Calvin Hotel.
But yeah, there's sour cream. He takes some Best Foods
or something like that. Just some simple mayonnaise. I wouldn't
use the one with a condensed milk and vinegar and
all that. Just get some book shop bought mayonnaise, add
some a little bit of milk and some herbs and

(12:05):
you can choose whatever herds you likee. Dylan Parsley are
pretty common. You wouldn't want to put anything like oregano
and there, but yeah, and don't chuck mix tubes. But
you just try little experiments with a little boat, make
up your base and then try it with different hands
to see what you like. And some people try a
bit of lemon juicing. A nice one is Paul Newman's own.

(12:26):
I mean, his sources have been around for yolks, and
I think that's when you first saw ranch dressing.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, half with the Paul Newman's one. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, okay,
we'll find out.

Speaker 7 (12:38):
Well.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Thank you for that, Johnny eight hundred and eighty twenty
two past eight Marcus till twelve. The fish was called blinky.
Thanks for the text. I remember that the fish with
three eyes be in touch Popeye's buttermilk ranch sources. The
best that's from Ben. Ranch dressing is quite good. I'd
be more concidered if you want to have to sell undressed.
I think people are much more into dressings. I think

(13:00):
these days people are into like a little bit of
basal mich or something. You know, we're not kind of
the dressing days of undergone. I think, oh, that's just me.
I mean that might sound like judgment. Someone said subway
has ranch dressing, and probably the text of the night
already a someone's texted. I think ranch dressing is just

(13:24):
a North Island thing.

Speaker 8 (13:26):
I think you might be right.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Twenty three past date back in Vaccine or btw By
the way, the other thing that perhaps will dictate some
of the talkback coming up in upcoming days and weeks
is the report and the review into the racing industry,
and none of it seems particularly good. It seems that
it's an industry that is in decline, It's in big

(13:49):
decline and probably is not going to survive without sort
of subsidies and being propped up by the government. So yeah,
it says right now, even a casual punter and I
might not bet on the future of New Zealand's racing industry.
So the dogs have gone, are the horses going to follow? Yeah,

(14:11):
and it seems as though the industry is right with
infighting and bureaucracy and all sorts of trouble. I'd go
also and say that probably the products not much good.
Well it's not that it's not much good, but you
know the experience. You're going to run down rural racecourse
in this country, which I do fairly often unless you're
a member, and who knows who'd become a member to

(14:32):
go once a year, because they are the ones that
seem to be in the flash places. I mean most
people there seem to be the members and the members
stands having a time with their life. The people that
just casually turn up once twice a year, they're just
forced to be in the basement of old Rickley grandstands
with drunken students. They treat their it's just got to
be one place for everyone. They treat people appallingly, that's

(14:54):
my take on it. I mean, why would you have
that situation where it's all got to be members and
stuff like that. That's not going to work. People don't
want that. When New Zealand it's not Royal Ascott. You
just want to be able to go and hang out
with the the other people one of all different sort
of levels of membership and where you can go. Keewis
don't key Wes hate that and not want to want

(15:14):
to check every topic at you. But also it looks
like there's a lobby group saying that the next Auckland
Harbour crossing needs to be a bridge and a twelve
lane bridge cheapest. So there's images of that that are
on the situation there too. Anyway, get in touch. My
name is Marcus.

Speaker 9 (15:33):
Welcome.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
You've mentioned Bob Blair many times over the years and
I knew you would be onto that topic tonight. I
like the word Suckcliffe added to Blair when he joined
him at the crease. He put his arms around Blair's
shoulder and said, you don't want to be here, son,
Let's swing the bat and get out of here. Suckcliffe
hit three sixes to great chair. But when Blair hit
a six, the twenty three thousand spectators erupted. In some ways,

(16:00):
I would say it's the most loaded magical moment in
world cricket, that one. But if you are someone that
wants to talk about that also too, and I know
that people would be of a certain age, I mean, goodness,
met it's a long time ago. Now, it's a long
long time ago because he was a young man and
he's died at ninety four. But it might be something
you have some experience or some recall of raw in

(16:21):
some ways that you have some connection with that. I mean,
Tonguewai bearing in mind, was a long time ago. It
was nineteen fifty three, forty seven and twenty six forty seven,
sixty seventy three years ago. Horse racing is a vestige
of a society based on class. Good riddance to it.

(16:41):
Someone says, just as bad as greyhound racing. Another person.
Eighty thousand people died in two thousand and three and
a sixteen day heat wave in Europe. Jeepess, Marcus. Some
of my oh yeah, we go, thank you, Marcus. Some
of my eighties George Bert Sutcliffe Sutto was my absolute
cricketing hero and Alex Moyer was my teacher on my

(17:02):
first Teachers College month long teaching practice placement. I remember
the Bob Blair and Narissa love love story. The story
of that South African match still brings me to tears. Sam, Yes,
for some reasons. It's particularly evocative to me also as
I always read that and think jeepest, creepers. It's some
walking out across that across the field, and how will

(17:25):
the people knew in South Africa. I don't know what
had happened if it was in the newspaper all it
was just word of mouth. It is an amazing story. Marcus,
I missed your start. What aspects of cats were wanted
to discuss? The garage heater was on to warm it
up in advance of Larry the cat arriving for the night. Anyway,

(17:45):
be in touch if you want to talk and anything
you want to talk about. Fel Free would rather watch
motors sport over forcing animals to run fast? Yes, I
mean they've always gotten reviews into the harness racing industry
and yadiyah and I can't see any reason it's going
to pull out of it and now it's sports betting
is everywhere. You know, in the old days, horse racing
kind of existed because it was the only place you
could gamble legally. And then you had Lotto, and Muldoon

(18:10):
always said that Loto would ruin the racing. Then you
had the pokies, then you had Keino, they got sport betting,
and they've tried and tried and tried to make horse
racing exciting and hip for the youngsters. But every time
they make it hip for the youngsters, it always just
appears to be kind of men and jackets and ties
getting drunk and oh, well, no, that sounded quite wrong,

(18:33):
but you know, kind of it's a certain type of
young person that would get into racing. I guess you
could say that, but be in touch if you want to,
oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine to
de text anything else you want to mention. Someone is
referring to Americans in a text as sepos, which is

(18:54):
rhyming slang septic tank yank. I've never heard them referred
to that before that I could remember. But someone said
the only food the Sepos have invented is the Wolldorf salad,
which is what lettuce and walnuts and celery. Would it
be the second most famous salad after the Caesar walled
off solad ingredients. But get in touch if you want

(19:16):
to talk. I know I've given too many topics out tonight.
So pick one apple, celery, grapes. Oh, a boy made
one of those the other day. It was delicious. Fans,
your kid been obsessed with salads, each to their own,
though without judgment. Twenty six away from nine o'clock. Hold
your horses with you soon, Yeah, Bob, this is Marcus.

(19:37):
Good evening and welcome.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Already have a.

Speaker 9 (19:40):
Subject which I didn't know about till the other day.
Of course everyone knows I'm going in rib operation. I've
got a quite a bat and bad case of Arthur
Writis from my legs. I have been trying all these meditations,
like the rubb on ones, every different variety. Now in
my day, if you use depeat on your legs, it burns,
holds on it just about well. Now I've used just

(20:00):
about every deepeat type of product that I can find.

Speaker 7 (20:04):
And I find it's all full of fillers. It's not
it's not what you're buying at all, filling it up
with rubbish.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Would it not be a case that maybe that it's
less effective now on you? How do we know it's
not there? Okay?

Speaker 9 (20:16):
No, I went I went to the chemist, and I
asked the lady at the chemist, what is this filler's thing?
She saw they put it in there because there's only
a tiny, tiny little bit of the depeat and they'd
have to put it in a bearing, miniature miniature thing.
So they pull it up with other stuff so that
you know they you can use it.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
But I mean, does it say other packets full of fillers?

Speaker 9 (20:37):
Well, it has a whole lot of things I wouldn't
understand on the pack I know they follows because I
went back to the to the chemist and questioned the
story because, as I say, the deepeat linen and all
that sort of stuff, because I used to play rugby
in that, I'd put it on and burn a hole
in your skin the stuff. I'm quite sure I could
eat deepeat now it wouldn't affect me.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
I was about that, Bob, are you are you quite
a bit quite a bit of pain?

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (21:04):
Well, the situation is by muscle in the front of
the league whatever they caught it from the knee down
the big that's the shinbone had been playing up. I've
end of the doctor. They didn't know what was wrong
with the X RAYD. It's not broken.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
Blah blah blah.

Speaker 9 (21:18):
So we're not down to taking blood to this now.
But yeah, and the out of writers from the as
I tell anyone from the waist down, nothing works anymore,
especially you know, because because of the Arthur riders and
the hit the area and that sort of thing, and
it keeps your weight. And May gave me two tablets
this evening. I didn't even know what they were, and
he said, oh, you'll be sleep with it an hour.
Well it's three hours ago. I'm still wait awake.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
What I mean, where is your mate got the stuff from?

Speaker 7 (21:46):
I have no idea.

Speaker 9 (21:48):
He just said his two little pools that'll make you
go to sleep. Well, no, it doesn't work either, but
it's just that's that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
So when'd you say your operation was?

Speaker 9 (21:58):
Oh no, what happened was I had my left left
it done three years ago, they said to me. When
I got my left hap done, that the right one
really need you're doing too. So I've been waiting and
waiting and waiting. Nothing happens so a bet a month
ago went back to the hospital and said, look, this
is the situation, this is a story. They saw, we
better get an X ray. And then they had a
cheek to send something back to my doctor that no, no,

(22:20):
an email back to me advising me that I should
go and see my doctor because they didn't think it
was bad enough to be done. Now that ain't a
numbers game by this caven, I don't know what is.
Every operation will take place in four months. The scoven
tells everyone, well this is this is two and a
half years ago. My main gradual is the prom buy

(22:40):
these You.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Are a group, you are a great communicator, yes, and
you are a great you are a great advocate for yourself.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yeah, well.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I think you'd be to go see Stuart Smith.

Speaker 7 (22:54):
Well, it won't be the next bloody thing, mate.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
I reckon you need to go see him and say
hey Smithy, well, elections elections coming up. You know, fear enough.

Speaker 9 (23:03):
Won't hold you Yeah, I won't hold you up for
plenty of say that. Because I used to be a
member of the Labor reginion in Wellington. We went to
a meeting and they were always worrying about the government
that's a few years ago. Knowing about the government, I said, right,
I said, I'll stand for Warrington Central. I said, does
anyone interested in what I've got to say? See me
at the back of the town hall after this meeting.
Thinking no one would turn up, three hundred people arrived

(23:23):
at the meeting.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Goodness, and someone rung the other night and they seemed
to see their MP the next thing, you know, they
had their operation the next day.

Speaker 9 (23:34):
That might be a bloody trick, I think. And I've
got another person said to me there they went to
a course, twelve week course to the hospital used to
pay for an Arthur rotison and and the people got
moved up there, up the thing straight away.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
I know.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Also, go see Arbuckle.

Speaker 9 (23:50):
Yeah, because you've got people out there.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
You got a New Zealand's first character there in Bleenham.
Go seek Jamie Arbuckle and say hey, what's your situation?

Speaker 9 (23:58):
Buck Yeah, because there's people out there. Were some men,
I realize that, and they need their operations.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
But Bob, Bob, you sound grizzly. You sound like you
need some sleep, you sound like you're the end of
your tear. The I'm feeling for you, I can hear it.
I can hear it a secret all that, but yeah,
I'm hearing you. I can't do much, but you want
to get this all right, mate, And they'll be votes
and they'll be votes in it. Prof Smith, I mean goodness,

(24:23):
gracious me.

Speaker 7 (24:24):
You might know I meet him at the local show
and that before.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
What's he doing in your local show?

Speaker 4 (24:30):
Is it we should be?

Speaker 9 (24:31):
It's greeting and greeting children.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
And but it wasn't helping you with your hap or
you have femeral arty or whatever. It was equaculture or some.

Speaker 9 (24:40):
Some it's just the main main part of the clusters
that the medication they give you these days, there's no
one here as good as it used to be because
it's full of fillers, which I didn't know till the
other day.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
I think fillers is your problem. I think it's a
health care system. That's your problem. I won't keep your Yeah,
if I could, I could do some of us, I'd do, Bob.
That's my situation. That's my promise to you, not my
promise to you that. Yeah, that's what I'll be doing.
We've got a team for the games. Anyone interested scheft
a mission. Nigel Avery always seems like a cushy number

(25:15):
of the old cheft a mission. Isn't it hiding behind
a French toyta? No one quite knows what they do.
Sixty five females fifty one males. Will they do a
gender split? Half the size the seam set? Sent in
twenty twenty two? Does anyone want to talk to Bob
about his stuff on his legs?

Speaker 4 (25:36):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (25:36):
The whole time that I'm talking to Bob, it's taking
me all of my willpower to not go deep heat?
Is that what the ad? Wasn't it deep beat? Anyway? Well, well, well,
two minutes ago in the basketball South and Shaq seventy
nine over Todung of Phi seventy nine, seventy seven. I

(26:00):
don't know if we've got Jones, Ryland Jones. He's our
import from you to short pop rocket, But geez good,
I think he's got problems with his or growing. It
not problems with his growing, but I don't think he's
on the court, and boy, they need him. Without him,
they're no good. I can't. I'm just looking out with
the TV now. So anyway, because they won seven on
the trot or nine on the trot, then they've lost
two in a row since Ryland's been away. I can't

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even see them on the and I think the coach
said that he wasn't going up the Todung trip with them.
They've got a busy week. Sixteen to nine. I've thrown
a lot of topics that you which is good and bad.
Good because a lot to talk about. Bad because we
haven't got a huge response. And in fact, Bob listened
to everything decided to bring about his leg. What would
have been fantastic with Bob if I could do a

(26:44):
dream talkback show, would be if Bob rang up and
said that he can't fall asleep and in made of
him's given two pills. I think for him to fall
asleep mid sentence or pretend to would have been sensational.
But I don't want to belittle what Bob's going through.
But that would have been the Covic timing of that

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would have been genius. Sixteen to nine evening Murdoch, this
is Marcus welcome.

Speaker 10 (27:12):
Okay, market First of all, make you're pronouncing it wrong.

Speaker 7 (27:15):
It's wrench.

Speaker 10 (27:17):
Can they talk about it in a mirror?

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (27:19):
Yeah, when you're that wrench And that's I mean, I
live o Mecca for a bit and it's like it's
huge over there.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, it's it's really huge. It's like it's like there,
it's like their biggest contribution to the world ranch is
ranch dressing.

Speaker 10 (27:36):
Ranch and Donald Trump. You know that's sort of medqual
brain matter. But they when you get a side of
ranch over there, you really get a side of arch.
Like we're talking like a like a dessert bowl follow it.
But yeah, but me personally, I've always found it disappointing.
It's never been quite as good as what you expect,
you know, stipeak good, but it's just yeah, it's not me.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
I quite like the fact that it's got Dylan it is.
It quite a dilly kind of a taste. Yeah, I'm
still here. Murdoch gave me a fright, you're still there.
I'm still here.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
What's the biggest flavor del or like animal?

Speaker 10 (28:15):
Yeah, just a dell that greeny sort of you know,
with a bit of a bike tie. But you know
they look it on their like fried chicken, and it
just doesn't Yeah, I don't know. And even if you
get it on a subway, do.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
It for me.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
I don't reckon. I've ever kind of really pushed the
butet with my subway toppings on the rear occasions I've
had it. But yeah, I might give that a go. Okay,
that's fine, Okay, thank you for that murder on the ranch,
the ranch, Helen. It's Marcus. Welcome in good evening.

Speaker 11 (28:40):
Yeah, hi Marcus. Now Bob call I've been thinking about
that him since he rang last week. That's a few options.
I don't know where he is, and I don't know
where she is.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
But there's a doctor she where she is?

Speaker 11 (28:55):
I no, no, no, I don't know where Bob is
and I don't know where she is, but there's a
doctor called something rather pittzillas p I T F I
L I is who was a natural pathic doctor. She
used to come on, she had program on. You know,
she's one of the guests on news Talks. There'd be

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for a while. And I don't know where she is,
but she knew a lot of really good stuff. If
he can't, if that's not suitable, except I don't know
where she is and I don't know where he is.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
We don't know her name, Helen.

Speaker 11 (29:27):
No, sorry, first, her first name is Karen, perhaps, but
her surname is Pitt Sillis. But I don't know where
Bob lives and I don't know where this doctor practices.
But anyway, he could look that up. Otherwise he could
go see go to the health food shop. They often
have natural paths working there and see what they could recommend.

(29:52):
I have so the ostiauthoratis of my hip, and I've
managed to fullestall it off with minimal this comfort considering
what it is for ten years now. There's things like
he knew oil which you can rub on, and things
like tiger Baum. There are some things that might help him.

(30:14):
I can really appreciate what stay he's in. There's also
something else I take. I take a range of supplements.
One is yeah anyway, there's one called boss Willia, which
is a Franken sense.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Her otherwise men, yes, don't.

Speaker 11 (30:31):
I wouldn't go up. But I know he's in terrible.
I know he's in agony.

Speaker 9 (30:35):
I know what that's like.

Speaker 11 (30:36):
But you know, this doctor Pittzi list might help him
if he could track her down and help. Health food
shops are very helpful lay off and have natural paths
working there as well. So I just wish him all
the luck and I hope he gets his operation. Soon
if that's what.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
He wants to do. Thank you, Helen. A night away
from nine, Bob needs to get real. He'll never get
an operation. There are three lists urgent than six to
twelve months, then the third list who will never really
get their ops because there's always a traffic extent of
remagency takes priority. I was six to twelve, had a
double dissected me and deconpressure up to eighteen months back
in twenty twelve. The system is well and truly broken. Now,

(31:16):
oh well, back, catch your people if you want to talk.
Nine from nine. For those following the basketball totung of
five visus the South and Sharks, it's eighty one eighty one,
ten point six seconds left. Sharks have the ball play
time out, so that'll be good to go. I'll tell
you how that goes. Keep the texts coming. You want
to talk before the news, I'd love to hear from you.

(31:37):
Six away from nine. I think the question really, I mean,
I mean, I'm loaths to advise Bob what to do,
while I'm loads to take advice to what Bob should do,
because you know he's there on his pension end and pain.
If you're going to buy things that are expensive and
don't work, then that's not much good for him, is it.
They'll be in pain and broke. But if you want
to talk about this, so you've got talking to say
to him. Eight hundred and eighty ten eight shoot out

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any one all she's all tied up. Anyho, be in
touch if you want to talk and keep those texts
coming through. By the way, it might be snowing tonight
and Kumarta junction a highway State highway sets down to
one lane following a crash, serious crash. And while this

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is went very ready to we get questions like this.
On the West coast, two cars occur between Chesterfield Road
and Stafford Road. One person with critical injuries. One person
there's moderate to minor serious cush. It will be examining
the scene. The road is to be down to one
lane for some time tonight. That's State Highway six at Kumata.

(32:43):
It's on the west coast, so that's a situation. I'll
just bring up the map for it. There will be
it was down to one lane, so you will get
through there, but there might be disruptions. Disruptions. It actually
is the junction, I think I think that's exactly what
it is. There's a roundabout there, am I right? If
you are there on the coast. I got some more
information yet us snow Marcus, anyone thought about instead of horses,

(33:06):
the tav bedding could be on local human athletic meats
and so athletics can be a professional, self funded sport.
Will that be a good idea bedding on humans? I
suppose it will be or could be. But yeah, now
get in touch. You want to talk before the news
or after?

Speaker 4 (33:22):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah, the question was I think from Rob from Bob
was as deep heat not as strong as it once was.
I just could think probably that your baby, your body
might build up a resistance to it or a tolerance.
I don't know if that's the case, but why wile
they make it weaker or full of fillers? I don't
fairly understand all about that. But you might have some
more information too. So that's a situation if you want

(33:44):
to be in touch markers till twelve, eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty. If you want to text, good, but
are really keen to talk about people who have got
some more stories about the cricket that die today too,
because that's a remarkable story. If you've got if you're
a cricket expert and have some more details. I don't
know if many people be alive that remember that. It
wouldn't have been on the TV. Obviously it would have

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been I don't even know it would have been a
live radio commentary. I suspect it would have been. Someone said,
you can bet on athletics at the tab. Another person says, Marcus,
bob could try a week pack that's heat in the
microwave with the deep heat, or the tiger barm intensifies
the heat from the deep heat. I do this sort

(34:25):
of time with my sore neck. You can get anti flam,
which is a heat rub that has arnacut, which is
good for reliving, no, not reliving pain, relieving pain. Gilly
nine oh seven, seven past nine, head till twelve, Get
in touch, oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine
detext Richard AT's Marcus, welcome, Good evening.

Speaker 9 (34:45):
Yes, good evening, Marcus. I just a few things I'd
like to add about bob Ley and Bert Sakraffe. I
think what's been said so far is basically right. But
Albert Albert Sacraffe was an opening bet from them. The
side he was one of the best bets when the
Museums ever had and Bob Lear was a fast bowler
and as such he batted further down the list right well.

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When Sacriff went out the bat he scored just a
very few runs and he had an arsy hit on
the head and he was cuted off to the hospital.
That's that's what's known as retired hurt, and that entitles
him to come back and finish his batting when someone
else goes out and there's a vacancy. As far as
bob Lea, it was expected that he wouldn't take any

(35:34):
further apart in the game. Anyway, the match went on
and that they weren't doing terribly well because they were
losing wickets, and the last one that was thought to
play went out, so the side turned to go off
the field and Bert Sacreff walked out with a big

(35:56):
bandage around his head and that sort of thing, and
he scored a few more and then the one the
other end went out, and so again they virtually started
to walk off and Bob Leair walked onto the field
and he got a huge reception, and as you mentioned,
bolb Suctraff went out. Bert Sakliff went up and spoke
to him, etc. Now, from that moment on, Bert suf

(36:20):
Suctreff just took to the bawling and he had a
magnificent innings. He scored I can't remember the exact score,
but something like eighty or ninety nine out and bob
Lea stayed there all the time helping, and they won
the test.

Speaker 12 (36:35):
That's about all I know.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
And you've known this from reading about it, Would that
be right?

Speaker 13 (36:41):
No?

Speaker 7 (36:42):
I can remember.

Speaker 9 (36:43):
I'm actually eighty seven or so eighty eight now, and
I've always been keen on cricket and i remember virtually
from the time it happened, So.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
You would have been listening to that on the radio.
Would that be right?

Speaker 9 (36:56):
Look, I can't remember that whether we did that or
whether I saw it in the paper, I don't know.
It was a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Okay, hang on, hang on, Richard? Do you and I
presume it was in the new What have they had
a test between Christmas and New Year? Or would it
been in the New I'm just trying to work out
the time frame when it was. Do you know when
that actually because I think that the train crash was
Christmas Eve.

Speaker 9 (37:21):
Well, I think it was the last day of a test. Okay,
I'm not quite sure, but it was the end of
the test because they scored enough runs to win. Okay,
that's that's about all I can help you if I'm afraid.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
I really appreciate you coming through Richard, just someone that
remembers it too. I appreciate that. Thank you so much
for that ten past nine getting touched Marcus till twelve
of you are talking about the test with Bob Lear
not expected the crease, so it was. It was December
twenty fourth to twenty ninth was the usual time to it.
So so there we go. That's a situation. So if
you want to talk more about that, please, That's something

(37:56):
that I think is one of the greatest moments. And
quick as are saying earlier earlier for those that just
joined us, that Bobbley had died. Sorry, so that Bobbley
has died today at night four, but famous for being
a great news and credible also famous for playing that
Test at South Africa after getting on tour and the
news had come through that his girlfriend had been killed

(38:19):
and the tongue wide disasked it. Now as I say
that I better just in fact, make sure that is
the right word. Your fiance that's right. I knew, yeah,
I knew there was a there was a more appropriate
from the time word. His fiancee, Nerissa Love, was one
of the one fifty one people that were killed in
the Tongue Wai rail disaster on Christmas Eve. So yeah,

(38:41):
it's an extraordinary story if you want to talk about
that eight hundred and eighty had He also talked about
the racing industry, ranch dressing, and also talking about cats
and the Opportunity Party and deep heat. I'm not fully
sure what I mean. Bob's had one hip done and
the next hips about. I don't think his first hip
operation was too good. So yeah, he's got muscle pain

(39:01):
in his legs. Marcus Ree, Winston Peters and Pike River
Winston's had so many years to raise such allegations and
to use such a tragedy as a pre election promise
is nothing other than shameful. Regards Rob Well, especially when
you're in government and most of your subsequent most of
your recent years you have been in government. You can't
be in government and then say election promises, we'll are

(39:22):
in government. That's what needs to happen. When you are
in government. Goodness me some other texts. I agree with Bob,
buy some deco rub without co mingling, where the punting
mad Ossie is bet into our pools. Racing would have
gone under long ago. Needs to be better racing it
it's just so badly run. Marcus quick ranch dressing, salad,

(39:44):
spiral past a, cook drain toss ranch dressing through add
finely sliced salary, red onions, pepper, red green, yellow fried bacon,
tin ahole, Colonel's coin, drained stoo through corn, drained, stir
through all ingredients, lovely summer salad. Just had the NPD
email coming for a discount day tomorrow. Cross you Diesel
two dollars sixteen and two seventy for a leter. It's

(40:08):
almost back to normal, brilliant. Ten seconds left in the basketball,
This is extra time. South and Sharks ninety nine, Taranga
Phi ninety three. Marty, it's Marcus, welcome, Good evening, ye.

Speaker 14 (40:18):
Mars Well, what an interesting story about that wide disaster
Test match?

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 14 (40:25):
That's incredible. So were they playing over Christmas and they
have Christmas Day off?

Speaker 4 (40:29):
Is that how it works?

Speaker 14 (40:31):
What's the sec for the time?

Speaker 2 (40:33):
I presume the South Africans are as god fearing as anyone.
They wouldn't play on Christmas Day. I presume, because you're
normally in Australia start on Boxing Day. But they must
have started a day early. I don't know too much
about that.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
Well, you said the dates, and probably probably a four.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Day probably a four day test, Christmas Eve, Boxing Day,
Boxing Boxing Day and the one after.

Speaker 14 (40:53):
Yeah, yeah, that's an interesting format. Yeah, I'd say that
sir Evertans would have been the Dutch Reformed Church or something.

Speaker 7 (41:01):
And I did pretty.

Speaker 14 (41:04):
And having Christmas Day off, and I mess they went
for some early one and started late. But I don't
think i'd do that anyway. Yeah, what a interesting story.
And so the gentleman went out, he got cracked on
the head, probably had no helmet.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
I sm Well, it seems like it was a brutal
kind of a test. It seems like it was like
the body line, the bowling fast balls at them. It
seems like a brutal test. He went to hospital, came
back at the retired hurd, came back out and then
they were sure a batsman. And then Bob Blair came
out of the hotel room and just walked walked across
the field and everyone and you knowing the backstory, I

(41:42):
guess from the newspaper that his fiance had been killed
in the train crash, and yeah, you know, and everyone
just the whole stadium just went quiet with people and tears,
as you would be, because he said he was better
off playing rather than sitting back at his hotel room moping.
But yeah, it's pretty extraordinary.

Speaker 14 (41:58):
Back in the day, a lot of people traveled that
train line. It was pretty hard up, like, way more
popular than it was now. Obviously. Well, I've had a
lot of usage the Auckland to Warrington sort of trains,
and I.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Don't think I didn't know more about about at the time.
I don't know why she was on the train. I
don't think she was traveling up there to go to
see him. I think, you know, I don't know. She's
kind of forgotten in the story for what I can see.
So I'll do some more research throughout the night to
find out more about her, because I don't know much

(42:34):
about her at all, but I'll look into that.

Speaker 14 (42:36):
I'm speaking of tests. Did you see the test match
in England with the old the English captain kicked out
for the nightclub fight and all the dramas there the
last the second Test.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Yeah, I heard some discussions today about they were trying
to they were trying that McCallum and him were trying
to make out that they were mates. I don't know
about English cricket with the media, there's so much but
where they've had falling out some stuff. It's kind of
full on, isn't It.

Speaker 14 (43:06):
Won't make it like a big Coronation Street drama before
it even starts. And then he said this and she
said there and YadA YadA yah. So it's pretty interesting.
But it was a good one for us. But it's
always a tricky one when you win and the captain
or someone else has been kicked out and it's not
a full strength.

Speaker 12 (43:25):
I guess that's cricket.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
It's cricket. Did you want to go about the Opportunity
you have? Sex said that the Opportunity party as well.

Speaker 14 (43:31):
Yeah, it's an interesting one. I wonder if they'll make
the five percent or not. It looks like they're trying
to steal votes off every single party.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Well, you know, just in the middle of but it's
a good way to do it over if you go
the Centrist Party and get some of everyone because in
Australia they had the teal green to the Blue Greens
and they cleaned up in the flesh sleeps because people thought,
oh well we're Tories with a kind of a heart
and and it went real good for them.

Speaker 14 (44:01):
Yeah, yeah, are they Antie? What's their cat dog dog
policy's exactly?

Speaker 2 (44:07):
I think they're I think they haven't mentioned cats, but
a lot of people think Opportunity Party, Gareth Morgan they're
the cat haters. But I think they're more about text
and reform. So I think your cats are fine. You
got cats.

Speaker 14 (44:19):
Yeah, we just got a new one. What's his name, Frankie,
the lame name.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
I suppose it's the kids.

Speaker 14 (44:26):
We don't know if it's a boy or girl.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
We're not enough.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
You're a farmer, Mary.

Speaker 14 (44:32):
Well, it's pretty hard when the little fluffballs.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Okay, fair enough, nice to talk. Eighteen past nine, Michael,
it's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 15 (44:41):
Oh hi Marcus, how are you good?

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Thank you?

Speaker 15 (44:43):
I just wanted to crect the elderly gentlemen before about
the test result for the ting of.

Speaker 6 (44:48):
White test lost.

Speaker 15 (44:49):
We actually lost it quite heavily. And yeah, Bert suck
Cliff didn't get eighty something not out because they didn't
get many runs at all the second innings. It was
only just around one hundred or something like that. But
they've got the trophy now between South Africa and New
Zealand and it's called the actual Tinged white Field. Yes,
so yeah, just on that year, it was obviously, probably

(45:12):
up until the underarm, the most famous famous thing that's
either happened or you know, commemorated if you can call
it there, or thought about thing for cricket fans anyway.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
It's because tongue of wires, I mean, tongue of wire
is such a tongue of wire is such a I
don't know how to use the word. I'm going to
say special disasters news. And the fact it was on
New Year on Christmas Eve at night, involved a volcano
and a train and the Queen was here. It kind
of as it touches so many bases a as far
as you know, it must have been unbelievable at the time,

(45:47):
you know, such a right before Christmas.

Speaker 15 (45:50):
Yeah, the whole the whole thing, and including the Test
match obviously, I mean obviously it was a very both
thing for bob La to do to come back out
to bat with Bett Suckcliffe at the end, when you
know Bett Suckliffe was just going to walk off and
that was the end of the game. But yeah, certainly
a special occasion for probably not the right reason, if
you can call it that.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
I guess, well, I guess it shows one sport. I
guess it shows that sport is capable of It's a cliche,
but sport is capable of delivering extraordinary moments of drama
and that to know that what's happened to the guys
as fiance has been killed and he's coming out to
bat for his country and attest they're losing.

Speaker 15 (46:29):
Yeah, I know, it's pretty incredible what he did. So yeah,
but I love your show.

Speaker 10 (46:34):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 15 (46:34):
First time caller.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Oh, nice to hear from Yeah. Well, yeah, it's good
that the cricket stories get out, Michael, So thank you.
Nice to hear from you. Twenty past nine, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty nine nine to Detective you want to
come through? Yeah, I can tell you more about that match.
I've got the score of that match. So theyrick I've
got two seventy one and one forty eight. He's in
one eight seven and one hundred. Bert Suckcliffe not out eighty,

(47:00):
Bob Lair six stumped. That's that's so, that's the first innings.
I apologize is the second innings, Bert Stackcliffe ten, Bob
leir for the good thing about cricket. You can see
all the scores. They're on the old dot com machine.
Get in touch if you want to talk. Twenty past
nine Hittel midnight tonight. The number is eight hundred and

(47:21):
eighty Telly. I'll get to the texts. Thanks Matt. Someone's
texted my dad. John Beck was a member of that team.
Cheers Matt Beck. Thanks for that, Matt Marcus. Twenty eleven
on TV was a movie called Tongue Away, a love story.
It's a story of Bob Blair in the test while
worth a watch. Also as a twenty year old national voter,
I'm going with top this time. Have always liked their policies,

(47:44):
but never felt they could make it. Time to shake
parliament a bit with the party first Party ever Agatin
with no standing MP. It's from Dan, Thank you Dan.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
I Rose McIver played Narissa Love in that story of
Tonguewai and just googling around. There's a lot of information
about Narissa Love who was his fiance that died, but
a lot of it is information taken from movies, and
I think it's probably fleshed out. So I don't know
the full details of her life and not keen to

(48:19):
read out stuff of it, stuff that's been elaborated. But
it's a remarkable story. So there is that movie about it,
Tanguewai a love story. Sandra has texted. Christmas Day was
a rest day, but Bob Blair learned of her death
that day. Of course too, they would have been twelve
hours behind South Africa. I think that's right. They lost

(48:40):
the test. Other than that the previous chap was correct.
These words from Suckcliffe to Blair kill me. Come on, Sun,
this is no place for you. Let's swing the bat
and get out of here. Neurissa, his fiancee, was going
to Auckland to see the Queen. The train stopped at
tay Happy and she posted her last letter to Bob.
So the Tanguawai train was going from for those that

(49:01):
don't know, that was going from Willington to Auckland. It
was Christmas Eve. The lake at the top of the
Crater Lake at the top of herpe who breached the
lahar and the molten rock and water and lava flowed
down the frong Ahu stream and wiped out the bridge.

(49:21):
People had known the bridge was wiped out, but they
tried to stop the train, but the train didn't manage
to stop, and I think the front engine and several
carriages went into the river and the river carried the
river full of scoria and rock, carried the bodies a
long way down the river, to such an extent that
a lot of the bodies were buried in a mass

(49:45):
grave because the bodies couldn't be identified, such was the
damage from the gravel and the rock. So it was
a remarkable story, a remarkable tragedy. One hundred and fifty
one people were killed. And the call of dB will
know more about this. But I think a train control
and Wellington now there is special controls on the matad

(50:06):
that will signal when a laha comes down, so they
can stop those trains that are going towards that bridge. Now,
if you go to Tongue Away where it has where
it happened, and we went there Christmas with the kids.
We're on the bus and I think we had a
car this time. I think we're driving. That's right, we're
going for I'd come down the train to Hamilton. We're

(50:28):
driving to Herkuney. But we went to where it's. Yeah,
it's kind of a forlorn place, and there aren't good
memorials to where it happened because it's sort of in
the middle of nowhere. But you go there and you
get a sense of what happened. I kind of think
they should make I know, every time it's the fiftieth
anniversary or whatever they try. And yeah, it's such a
big disaster, it probably deserves more of a monument there,

(50:49):
just like Erebus deserves more of a monument. But this
is the actual the scene of the death. So yeah,
I feel quite strongly about that. And I've had a
couple of goes with it from local rotaries and stuff.
It always looks a bit yeah, it always looks a
bit yanky. But anyway, that's a situation that I know
about tongue Away and Bob Blair who has died at

(51:10):
ninety four. So there we go. That's the information I've
got for you on that. And we're also talking pains, Marcus.
I use go wanna arthritis cream you can buy it
from Australia only try pharmacy direct. It's cheap, it really works.
No heat, no stingy eyes, non sticky towy. Is it
made from go adders? You might know more about that

(51:33):
because someone said Emi Willer that you could you could
mine an em you but I guess they got oil
beneath the skin. It'd be like mutton bird fat. I
would imagine, Hey, anyway, get in touch, you on to
talk on edge of My name is Marcus, Welcome EDI
twelve And someone reckon that deep heat's not as strong
as it once was. Too many fillers. Oh god. You
can imagine Bob back in the chemist because this deep

(51:53):
heat's not working, angry as heck saying this is not working,
and the farmers saying, well, it's full of fillers. So yes,
you want to talk about these things. That's the plan
tonight or anything else with it till twelve o'clock oh
eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine two nine to
text also mentioning ranch dressing and the opportunity party. Another

(52:16):
text Marcus about the hip and leg muscle pain. I
know a few people with similar pain problems who were
prescribed celebrates by the doctor, and anti inflammatory medication often
can often work better for pre op hip pain as
well as muscle pain and legs. Obviously I can endorse it,
you would need to see a doctrine ask if it
might be a better option for you. It also has
less side effects like something like tramadol or coating. As

(52:39):
I mean told you to take it regularly morning and night.
I don't just take it when you feel the pain,
as it's not effective. Needs to be regular. One more thing,
most people I know needed a dosing of two undred
megs a day. One hundred not enough, Marcus, I see,
with a touch of irony, bob Ley with the final
member of the nineteen to fifty three team to pass
away rop Bob. But be in touch if you want to,

(53:02):
if you want to talk about these things. But a
history and also the racing industry. Now another report out
that I think's probably not good reading for Sony reports
only attempts to save it. But yeah, I think it's
oh well. Someone says cold compress is far more helpful
than heat. I was eight months old when Tanguawai happened.
My dad worked on the railways. He was called to

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help people get off the train. He was twenty seven
and quite traumatized by what he saw high markets. You
have to ask, really what the positive aspects of the
racing industry are. I can't see many. I think it
works well in the country towns. I mean, for all
its faults, you know, I think the young people like
it occasionally for a bit of a layer up. Every
time I've got a Christmas Arrester meetings, either Riverton or

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in Vicago. I do look at the you know, it
does seem to it look like quite fun if you're young.
I mean you're drinking outside, you're not in a pub.
It looks like it's a bit of ritsih as the
annual layer up. There's my take. But yeah, be in
touch if you want to be able to talk about
these things or anything else. Evening, Marcus I started voting

(54:06):
for the Opportunity part of after Gareth Morgan started appearing
on the morning news show. He was taken the wrong
way a lot. It's why he stepped back. He really
only wanted more restrictions on cat's eye registration. Gave them
fixed Cato's responsible cat ownership, as he could see the
feral cat population getting out of control and he was right.
That's from Anne. Oh, he's an appalling politician. He around

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everyone up. He's sort of because the trouble with him
as he came across as the world's expert on everything,
and that never goes well because you just get yourself
into arguments. But he's done the right thing. He stepped
back and the party seems to be in the hands
of the right people now and got close to the
five percent threshold, which is extraordinary because parties don't really
get to a five percent threshold very easily, as you say,
with no MPs and no cozy deals. Remember acts only

(54:50):
there because of EPSOM So there's that Marcus Anti phlamm
is made in New Zealand and has natural ingred Well,
everything's natural. I suppose what's a natural ingredient? Now be
in touch eight hundred and eighty thirty nine to nine
to text, twenty seven to ten, twenty five to ten.
I hope it's good. Were you are If you want

(55:11):
to be in touch eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
and nine to nine two de text you've been at
the Marcus.

Speaker 4 (55:17):
Welcome, Marcus has the hanging tonight. Good Thank you Ben,
long time no here Evan, who's here for a while. Yeah, yeah, god, yeah, yeah,
I work. Get in the bush. I see a lot
of wall cats out everywhere is They're actually quite a
fague of them at the moment you see them. I

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see them pretty much daily in the forestry.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
You know, I don't think it's a good I don't
think it's a good life being a feral cat. I
think it's miserable.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
It'd be pretty cold.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Well, I think you're fighting for food the whole time.
I think it's a really.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
Tough life, i'd say, I'd say, and.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
And cat lovers should be aware of that, I reckon.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
And it's quite a hard kay Because when I got home,
I've got to I love to next to some paddocks
and some vineyard and all that. I get plagued by them.
I see, yes, I'm going to have a cat here.
And I got home tonight and I see my cat
running through the door and at the mouth and it's
chopped and wearing straight to the women in the bedroom
and straight under the bead with this mouth.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
What province are you?

Speaker 4 (56:20):
And Ben story?

Speaker 2 (56:23):
What what island?

Speaker 4 (56:25):
I'm in Richmond or Nelson?

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Oh yeah, South Island?

Speaker 4 (56:29):
Yeah yeah, so yeah, it's been a really bad year.
But out in the roads, you know, look, I'm leaving
home really early. You see a lot of a lot
of boomin, and you know there's a lot of wheat.
I've seen a lot of weasels and stunts. I suppose
I can't get a difference between the two, but you
think a lot of them around them.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Are are you driving machinery? Are you on the chains?
Or are you living? Or what are you doing?

Speaker 13 (56:53):
No?

Speaker 4 (56:54):
I build all the roads markets.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
Thank you for thank you for your service. Okay, Well
that's important work building roads. It's as important as it
gets on talk back.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
Okay, if you say so, March. But and what and
another thing about Kat's I was the one that used
to drive trucks over in America. And anyway, long story short,
I ended up getting the shearer and I picked her
up the stage. He had a suitcase in one hand
and a woman Kat under her arm, and the other
head Chuck was ket up in the truck and that

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Kat lifting that trucks about two years. It was a
hard cake.

Speaker 5 (57:31):
Well this is one.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
This is the great New Zealand love story. Ben, Did
you did you say? Did you say to me? Did
I hear you right? Did you say I ended up
getting the Sheila? Is that what you said?

Speaker 6 (57:41):
Yeah, we've been When did.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
You meet her?

Speaker 4 (57:45):
This is over in America. I used to drive trucks
over thee there.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
But did you mean in a roadhouse or on the
internet or no?

Speaker 4 (57:52):
No, she was one of the guards at the guard check.
I despect recent works. Used to pull beef out of anyway,
the boy said to me one day, They says, oh,
we think you were stupid. You're not picking her up
because she was hot on me.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
So I ended up saying, how often have you been
seeing her before this happened?

Speaker 4 (58:09):
Ah? I used to go there about once a week,
I suppose, margus.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
That's pretty good. So so for how long each time? Like, well,
we're just we're there for five minutes just dropping off
or picking up the meat, or we're there for like
an hour.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
Ah, it's been. It's been if your if your load
was late, but generally like we'd pick up the load
Saturday and you meet you run on Saturday. But we'd
hang around Saturday, got Saturday to night, get bruised up whatever,
and then do a runner on Sunday morning, first thing,
four o'clock in the morning, five o'clock in the morning,
do a runner away because you were already about six

(58:44):
hours behind. Yeah, so you'd say her once awake and
sometimes yet yeah, but at least but it's been on
how long you're out in the road for.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
So so once she once she was schecked up with
you in the cat in the truck. That was that
was your home for those two years, right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
We went about twelve months next she was there. But yeah,
I taught her. Had to drive the truck. That was stressful.
That was very stressful. Thought. I had to drive a
truck and we were team team driving. So yeah, if
one wasn't driving, the other one will be sweeping.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
And then she was on payroll.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
Yeah, yeah, put her on the payroll. And the cat
was entertainment because you had to have your stereo quite
low because you wake up the other person in the back.
So the cat would get out there and walk around
the dash and then when you come in the truck
stop to get of a field on that you just
winding down your window and now cat would climb out
the window and go up the front of the the
king with the long those king with they'll go up

(59:44):
there and hook it book balls into the front of
the bug screen right with the king with scene. But
it was they're just sitting there as your cruise around,
just looking for a park in the truck stop. Yeah,
it was a real hard case.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
But what year we're talking?

Speaker 4 (59:59):
Uh, well, I was there for the man Nelium. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
in two thousand and one, somewhere around there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Tell me the cat didn't die on the road, No, No,
just about did though.

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
Went across in the George Washington Bridge into into Bronx
and New York City. The traffic was pretty slow. It
sort of stopped start stop, start, and I'm down the
window and let the cat get out the bonnet because
that's where it used to like that chuck because it
was safe as anyway. I must have got the wrong
gear and then the blimoming thing fell off and it
was sitting right in the middle of the road under

(01:00:34):
the truck, and I jumped out. I just got screamed out,
get my cat. You know, you imagine it. So I
jumped on the truck trying to get this cat. Every
time I went near it, I got away because it
was scared here. And then people were sort of passing
this because they're only going to fund. They're looking at
me like, what the hell is he doing under that truck?
And I just managed to get got hold of that
club affair, just grabbed it, just bisted in the door

(01:00:58):
and then carried on. That was going across the George
Washington Bridge into New York City.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Have you spoken to her in the last twenty six
Do you know how she's getting on? Not the cat
the Sheila?

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
Ah No, went downhill.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Actually there's a surprise.

Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
You're a long way from from here to near Marcus. No,
she ended up dying. Oh yeah, yeah, now went downhill
for her? Oh sir, Oh no, that's all good. I
don't really understand what actually happened, but I think it
was suicide. Yeah, it gets went wrong for it. What

(01:01:37):
happened after I'd gone, and that, you know, because when
when I was there by basically got e school was
out at the end, don't come back, and it was
pretty dramatic for some anyway. And yeah, I just carried
on with life. And I don't think she climbed through it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
I don't know what a story ben cheapers, creepers flip well,
then end the bobbly story. I'm quite shaken by that,
thank you.

Speaker 9 (01:02:01):
Ben.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
By the way, Cal Steffanovic has just been sacked because
I was interview with phara eight activist Tobby Robinson. So yeah,
dropped by Channel nine fair enough too. The Today Show
uploaded the conversial chat with British pharaoactivists into his YouTube
channel podcast, The Cal Stefanovick Show on Wednesday, only deleted
it a short time later after facing widespread backlash. Seemed

(01:02:25):
to show always through his whole career, seems to have
show an extraordinary lack of judgment. Old Stefanovic Stefanovic, seventeen
to ten, Oh welcome. Oh, by the way, the woman
that got attacked by the shark sad story, that isn't it.
She's woken from the coma, or she has woken from

(01:02:46):
a coma and said I love you. I'm not quite
to her mother and her partner who have been beside
her in ICU. Her first thoughts were with her daughter
August and wanted to check that she was okay. So
should remain in ICU for some time. Yeah, it's unbelievable

(01:03:07):
story that one too, So there.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
We have it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Fourteen to ten. If you want to talk on air,
the news in Australia. Cal Steffanovick is sacked.

Speaker 6 (01:03:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
He's sort of the equivalent to me. It's like a
pool well, I don't even ever know what he's sort
of a he sort of was the king of the
corn flakes there for a while. Actually was in New
Zealand for but working as a reporter here. Did some
time over here, but there always got it's always a
big deal or the media making a big deal the
breakfast shows in Australia, it seems to I don't know.
I mean, I don't know if it's if it's a
lucrative time slot, but there we go. That's the situation

(01:03:38):
with him sort of. The media seems to be slightly
obsessed with them over there. I don't quite know why, but.

Speaker 6 (01:03:42):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Now twelve way from ten and get in touch. If
you want to be a part of the show. Anything
else you want to talk about, feel free to get
in touch. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and
nine two nine to text. We are talking about Bobley,
the cricketer who has died. Well, he announced today died
at ninety four. That's the news that's come out and

(01:04:06):
the last remaining member of that cricket team that played
as have Africa in that series. And yeah, an extraordinary story.
If you know some more details of that, if you're
like a cricket obsessive that knows more about perhaps the
circumstances of that test, I'd be kind of curious to
know how the media if we had people over there commentating,

(01:04:30):
I think probably we would have. I think it was
a much more simple thing to do radio commentary obviously
than TV commentary, and I guess that would have happened.
So you've got some information that would be good to
hear from you about that, if there's anything else you
want to talk about tonight. Enjoying the discussion, and boy,
what a horring story that was about the start off
with the love story, but it was a tragedy at
the end. I can't believe how people can be professional

(01:04:51):
drivers and just live in their trucks. Forty degrees in
the UK hottest day ever, schools, clothes and trains grind
to a halt. And I guess the trains grind to
the halt because of the expansion of of that steel
would make them buckles. Basically, I think what it all
depends on how you lay that. If you lay the

(01:05:12):
if you lay the rails with expansion joints, you might
have as much trouble. I think it's pretty sketchy, but
that's hot. That's England and Wales. Keep you updated on that.
Ten away from ten. Welcome people, it's nine away from ten.
Now how you're going? What's happening in list Land? If
you want to be in touch before the news, that's

(01:05:33):
the plan. The Opportunity Party getting up to five percent,
and of course you need to have five percent to
get into parliament. That's the threshold. You'd have five percent
or one seat and if you get a seat then
you get your percentage. So if you have no seats
and you get five percent, you get five percent of
the seats. But if you have an electorate that you win,

(01:05:54):
no matter how many percent you get, you get that percentage.
So there could ever be a deal that I don't
think that will happen, but it's possible that there could
be a deal that they get a soft chance, an
EPSOM deal for a seat. But there we go. But certainly,
once you get above four you get your own momentum

(01:06:15):
and people start talking about you. It happened a while ago.
It might be ten to fifteen, twenty years ago with
Colin Craig, remember him and his party got up into
the threes and almost the fours, and a lot of
focus was on the party and that focus proved to
be too much for them and the party kind of
I think it was a Christianity based party kind of imploded.

(01:06:39):
It was about twenty twelve. So yeah, that's a situation there.
I don't even think they're a party anymore. They blew up,
flew too close to the sun. But yeah, they were.
They were doing all right for a bit and had
a high percentage rating. They received four point one percent
of the vote in the twenty fourteen election. He stood
in East Coast Bays. So yes, there are a lot

(01:07:01):
of votes that were wasted. And that's the thing. If
you don't make five percent, all those votes don't count.
So to gamble, and probably they should lower the threshold
to four percent. There'll be my there'll be my sense.
But anyway, people say, and we've had a chance to
change it, we're happy with what we've got. That's MMP

(01:07:21):
for you. But do talk you want to talk on air?
Marcus Till twelve. We're talking about Bob Blair and about
racing and about ranch dressing. It seems as though all
the people have gone to America for well, the food
that the people going to America for the football World Cup,
of the food they've fallen in love with is ranch dressing.
They are loving it. It's kind of America's contribution to

(01:07:42):
cuisine and boyoboy people are all over it. Invented in
the nineteen fifties by an American that worked in Alaska
on the oil fields and take out of the world slowly.
You might want to mention that. Also tonight, the other
news too that Cal Stefan overcame the breakfast host. He
has been sacked from Channel nine. Now he started his
own podcast. It wasn't a Channel nine podcast, it was

(01:08:05):
own his own podcast. But as part of his contract
was that he couldn't bring Channel nine to a disrepute
and because he had interviewed the ultra right wing activist
Tobby Robertson, got that don't come Monday, Pauling Hanson. She's alarmed. Ah,

(01:08:26):
they're saying who's sacked? She claimed Channel nine was trying
to sack my good friend Carl Steffan over for this
video with Tobby Robinson. So that's what's happening in the
America in the Australian space. I see also too that
Kyle Sanderland, he's without a job and he's trying to
become a podcast star. I don't even know if in
Australia can make money out of podcasts. I don't even
know if you can make it. I don't even know

(01:08:47):
wh New zealn't how the podcasts to I'm yet to
find I'm yet to find the numbers that work out
or tell me how much money you can make from
a podcast. I don't know if it's lucrative or not.
I never know how you know. So there we go
this debt. Also, but yes, any breaking news, I'll bring
that to you people if you want to listen or
talk back. Talking about Deep Heat, why it doesn't work

(01:09:07):
like it once did. I don't know what you want
to say about that, but that might be yeah, I
mean you might be more pain than you used to be.
I mean, hip pain is a lot stronger than probably
rugby pain. So yeah, if you want to talk about
that also tonight, and also talking about Bob Lebley, was
the last surviving Zealand player from that Test and Alice Park.

(01:09:28):
The moving moment inspired the creation of the Tunguawai Sheeld
joint introduced by Cricket and Crickets so Ath Africa in
twenty twenty four for men's series between the two nations.
He continued to play for news End for another decade
after that Test, fin in me finishing his career againstuth
Africa and Auckland in nineteen sixty four, reclaimed his best
Test match figures seven for one, four to two. He

(01:09:49):
never lost his love for the game, playing into his
sixties and captaining the Lancashire over fifties is part of
the more than forty seasons on the field. After his
playing days, he threw himself into coaching, worked with the
clubs and associations in Queensland's and Barbee, South Africa, Northern
Ireland and England. He settled in Cheshire, England with rife Barbara,
whom he married eighty six. Survived by his wife, children,

(01:10:09):
grandchildren and great grandchildren. I didn't realize he was living
in England, So there we go. That's a bit more
information about that. Make myself for coffee, see you here
in about four minutes. Hello people, how I will be
in touch if you want to be eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty and nine two nine two to text.
A lot of texts coming through. We are talking about

(01:10:30):
bob Bleair, the cricketer. We're also talking about the Opportunity
Party up five percent. People seem to be finally ready
to talk about that. Another discussion tonight is about ranch
dressing taking over the world and what future for horse racing,
and people talk att about the number of people that
are horse racing employees. But there's a lot of industries

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that employ a lot of people, but they become unsustainable.
It's a bit like the sawmills and kaititire. So you
can't just keep propping them up because I'm employ a
lot of people. But yeah, so do come through.

Speaker 7 (01:11:02):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
I couldn't understand why English, well, many English people like
warm beer, perhaps since the increase of heat waves where
witness chilled beer preferences. Marcus can't call and I watch
you you are top what let down? She stands for
nothing and just says limp comments like we keep them honest,
lost my potential vote. Goodness. I suspect very strongly their

(01:11:23):
vote wasn't a potential vote, there'd be my take on
that one deep heat does work. You need the extra strength.
I use a tube of Fortnite for the last twenty
five years. Voltaarn gives you chemical boons. I'm hoping to
get the isle to the Isle of man t T
didn't know it still goes twenty five years. Great show, Marcus,
variety of topics, really good. Love the story of Bob Blair.

(01:11:45):
Thank you, best regards, Christine, Christine Strawberry Girl, Christine Banana
split Lady. Who was that Susie Sue? The top vote
rising is just what usally needs. Enough of Luxon and
his business model for running the country. He's wrong to
discount the opportunity party the biggest mover. I constantly hear
as young now and business professionals in the short time

(01:12:08):
have been complaining. It's been refreshing to hear positive ideas.
He's in as sick of petty politics every day from
the top down. So that's what's happening. Be in touch
if you want to talk about these or anything else,
oh eight hundred and eighty eight, anything else you've got,
be nice to hear from you, and there might be
some other topics entirely, and I want to talk about tonight.

(01:12:30):
And I don't know if you're in a politicing mood
or a horse racing mood or a history mood, but
the's all there and if you want to partake, that
would be lovely. People are excited with how cheap fuel
has become, although I don't think there's probably I don't
know that there's not some more tricks and turns in
the Straight of horn Mews hormu hor moods still to come.

(01:12:51):
That's what I suspect, that there'd be some still twists
and turns. I don't know why they call it the
straight when there's anything but yeah, and forty degrees in
the UK today so unbelievably hot. Oh and there as
they have just got news that a bowler the bowl

(01:13:11):
of virus is in France, whereas they're calling it now
the eye bleeding disease. Not a nice name, is it?
Good evening, Kennit's Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 16 (01:13:20):
I was just picking up on your invitation to as
a topic about horse racing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Sure I aren't you just cut out and you cut
out after I can but start again.

Speaker 16 (01:13:34):
Sorry, I'm driving in the that country are you know
the trainer tables Aus trainer in Australia, very famous and
he had a very very dry sense of humor and
he trained at Flemington and the RC Victoria Racing and said,

(01:13:54):
mister Cummings, were concerned about the state of your stables.
We've noticed there's too many slides.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
And he said, well many am I have too many?

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
What slides? So sorry, ken O. Fortunately that the phone
number the line is not good enough. It's too confusing
to hear you. Yeah, Kintony should be okay, but yeah,
sorry about that. Maybe another night. Brittet's Marcus, Welcome, good evening, Marcus.

Speaker 12 (01:14:30):
I was just thinking about the young fellows. I've heard
something on the radio, you know, and we had paper
rounds and all that and the day but you know
it's off the subject.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
But oh no, you're worried about youth un youth employment and.

Speaker 12 (01:14:46):
Then you know they you get you get one guy
in the street and you can mow everyone's lawns, save
everyone the money.

Speaker 4 (01:14:53):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
I don't think there's the opportunity for young people for
employment these days. It seems to be refuge that the
most of the jobs have gone the chickouts. Now self,
check out the paper runs. Well, there's no papers, it's
all emails. We what did you do as a child?

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (01:15:08):
Everything? Paper on milk? I don't know how many milk bottles,
you know, the big glass ones. I had heard about
three and each.

Speaker 6 (01:15:14):
Ten with them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
That's gone. But milk runs have gone?

Speaker 12 (01:15:18):
How many crates do we pick up the heavy too?

Speaker 9 (01:15:21):
You can't.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
You can't drive ubers because you've got to be sixteen
or probably eighteen for that.

Speaker 12 (01:15:25):
Yeah, but you get one guy in the street now
it's his week, and pay your lowns. He knows everyone
to lawn, you know, it's got to be something like
that around.

Speaker 9 (01:15:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
I guess that's the only chance I'm do.

Speaker 4 (01:15:40):
You want to hear it?

Speaker 12 (01:15:41):
You want to hear a joke about the lawn is
a one?

Speaker 4 (01:15:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Sure?

Speaker 12 (01:15:45):
Oh that God says to Saint Peter, why are all
these green triangles everywhere? And he goes, oh, the humans
are growing grass? And God says, oh that's nice. You know,
so what do they do with the grass? Oh they
get a certain guy around the mower and and God says,

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oh that's nice. And what do they do with the
grass or they pay someone to take it away. Oh,
and God goes, oh, that's not very good, so he says,
or at least the trees drop their leaves and that
federalizes and everything. And he goes, no, sorry, God, they

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pay people to take the leaves the waiter. Is it
a good run?

Speaker 4 (01:16:35):
Is that it?

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
Does it finished?

Speaker 15 (01:16:36):
Well?

Speaker 12 (01:16:36):
They pay the people to take the leaves the waiter
because God's been upset about there's no compost because people
are growing grass?

Speaker 5 (01:16:45):
Is it?

Speaker 12 (01:16:45):
And paying people to mow it? Do you get it?

Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
Not? Really?

Speaker 12 (01:16:50):
Well, I'll bet your people get it, see you mate?

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
What's what's the what's the plot?

Speaker 4 (01:16:56):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (01:16:57):
Well, God's looking down on the earth and people are
growing grass and he goes, we are the people growing grass?
And Saint Peter says, oh, yes, so they grow grass,
and what do they do with the grass? Or they
pay some guy to come around with his lawnmower and mullet.
You see. Oh that's good. And then what do they
do with the grass? They pay someone to take it away.

Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
I don't think I don't get it. Maybe someone else
understands it if they could explain it to me. Good, good, good, good, good, good, good,
good good good oh wait twelve talk about bob Leair
and and the racing. I just think with the racing,
I think I don't know what they're going to do.
I don't know what they're going to do to make
the experience at the race course better because basically only
go in there these days for the faded charm. Well,
the next generation is not going to want faded charm.

(01:17:43):
But they create a two tier system. It's full of
members and stuff like that. It's not kind of a yeah,
it's not good, there'd be my take on it. So yep,
you might want to say something else about that. I
do quite like all of it, but I just think
it could be so much better. Someone said there's only
one muscle pain kordu if X absolutely amazing. Instantly its
pains and real pleasant smell. What's in it? I get

(01:18:06):
the joke, by the way, and I think I'm ever
likely to for every difficult as a talkback host when
someone rings them tells a joke because part of your
is paddict, it's going to be sexist, offensive, offend religious religions,
or you're not going to get it very really am
I glad to hear a joke that what I didn't
get So there's that. New Zealand's next matches against Belgium

(01:18:29):
and Vancouver on Saturday, State of Origin, eighth July. I
think school holidays are up in ten days. People Matadiki Friday,
tenth July can't wait one hundred and thirty six days.
So he's in a general election and the Opportunity Party
is on the brink. This day, in seventeen seventeen, the
world's first Masonic Grand Lodge is established. How are the

(01:18:50):
Freemasons going? You're on your way home from lodge. How's
that working out for you? Good evening, Marcus. I am adopted.
Last year tried to find my birth mother at the
age of forty eight. Sadly I was seven years too late. However,
on a positive note, I met my birth mum's brother
who happened to be here from Australia and one of

(01:19:11):
my birth cousins. We've got talking about dog racing and
horse race. He said, I'll be phased out in coming
years like the dogs jeepest screepers. Marcus. I normally get
jokes quite quickly. The grass joke was the only one
I have not got so far. I'm afraid it well.
I don't think it was a joke. Let me explain.

(01:19:37):
Usually people grow things to use, corn, apples, et cetera.
But now lots of us grow grasp instead of using
having use for it, we pay something to take it away.
We have no real use for it. It just cost
us money. To God, that concept would look pretty dumb
because everything he created to grow has a use. I
don't think that's a joke. That's social comment. Marcus Hong Kong,
China rugbyty and team played Wakato at Tawamutu tonight. Wakata

(01:19:59):
went down twenty four to twenty two to surprise. Ah
that the same team that was in the Super Rugby Final.
You're doing your input tonight, Goes, keep it coming. Twenty
one past ten. How a, oh, we're expecting snow. If
you're on the high country, Passes, how's that working for you?
Is it snowing? Let me know, and if it's not,
let me know also, But do talk if you want to.

(01:20:23):
We're also talking about deep heat. Now it doesn't work
like it once did. A lot of people talking about this.
Koru if X, I don't know what's in it. I
don't even know if it's made locally with a name
like Koru. It seems like the sort of thing you
do if you want to have it made locally, but
not make it locally. I don't know what's in it.
I think your usual suspects, but I don't even know

(01:20:43):
where it's come, who's in charge of, who's the manufacturer
of that? Can't find out that. But there we have
it twenty three past ten o'clock. If you want to
be a part of the show, welcome and yeah, there
is that. The road extent seems to be a big
road extent in Kumara down on the west coast too,
so the serious cush you are investigating that it's not

(01:21:04):
good either. For Valentine's Monaco, fifteen people have fallen ill there.
There is a neurovirus outbreak gestro outbreak LinkedIn Auckland restaurant.
Fifteen people have reported symptoms, all who visited the restaurant
on June twelve. My family, I went to Valentine's and

(01:21:25):
Moneay on Friday night, and twenty four hours later we're
all started violently throwing up. One diner said in a
one star Google review, that would be my first priority. Yeah,
oh good, they're investigating that now, they're reviewing their food

(01:21:46):
processes and cleanliness. I don't know if it's still owned
as a chain or quite what it is now. How
many Valentines are there? Maybe I fink there's about four
or five are there? You're Richard, this is Marcus. Welcome,
good evening, evening, Richard.

Speaker 6 (01:21:59):
Interesting show, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
My pleasure.

Speaker 6 (01:22:02):
Now DP dude, due, of course that was an old
literally adds from way back. So I think the most
interesting point you've been raising is what why DP has
seems to have a reduced effect and a lot of

(01:22:26):
people you don't know if they're just reducing the ingredients,
like like weaklks aren't really weakneks anymore, are they?

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
Everyone's trying to return through the profits to the shareholders.

Speaker 6 (01:22:37):
Yes, right, But then I've been asking doctor G a
little bit about these things because I've always found anti
flam to be a way bit of product for my
particular when I use it. And Dpat has a product
that's closely related to ASP and.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Yes, that's willow bark.

Speaker 4 (01:23:02):
Is it it's cooled?

Speaker 6 (01:23:03):
Well, I haven't. I'm not. I'm actually going to go
through are into this. But it's called metal, So Oh, yep,
it's an.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
Ingredient, a sellasilic acid or something, Is that right?

Speaker 4 (01:23:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:23:17):
Yeah, And it provides a heating sensation and increases productions
of grandins, which are the bodies pain and implement triggers,
so decreases those triggers. And it's saying that if you're
gotten as an allergy or you're on a blood spitting medication.

(01:23:37):
And I'm wondering if a lot of people don't who
are on blood putting medication don't know they should not
be using DP. Are the ones who are complaining that
because there are more and more people using blood putting medication,
I'd imagine, and would that not reduce the effect of DP.

Speaker 17 (01:23:54):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
I don't know, but I imagine if someone has prescribed something,
they would be asked what the other medications are. There'll
be my take on it.

Speaker 6 (01:24:01):
I think they're also different prices. I think dpeters mainly heating,
where anti flamm has reducing swelling effects. I think it's
more of it. There's calling stuff involved with anti flam
for what I read, and there's a lot more natural
with anti flam.

Speaker 9 (01:24:20):
So that was my call on that.

Speaker 6 (01:24:23):
I was looking up the whole horse thing and came
across a few details about the oldest race course and
I thought this was just kind of humorous. The oldest
racecourse still running is the chest Of race Course in England.
It started in fifteen thirty nine and it's still going.
And on their advertisement it we're not just I just

(01:24:45):
like the way that the writer of this has put it.
We're not a one horse pony. In fact, the house
catering provider our house Soviet. So their house catering provider
is called horse Radish.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
That's good, that's goods.

Speaker 6 (01:25:01):
Just got to pass that on because it's lighthearted.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
Yeah, that's very good. Thank you, Richard. Good research call
actually like that twenty nine past ten people and if
you want to join the discussion, anything goes. Kordu is
a company in ranging or producing health products. Are the
advertising the radi because lot of people said to know
a lot about it. Yeah, to get in touch. So

(01:25:25):
Marcus up there with Blinky. The fish is the Simpsons
version of the Freemasons. The Stonecutters singing, poetry and jokes
all should be banned. Poetry is terrible. Never ever, if
you ever find yourself in a situation you got to
a talk back show never ever in a state of panics.
RT what we'll do. We'll open up the lines and
anyone written their poems, they are the worst. They all,

(01:25:55):
they're all battling the rhyme. Terrible. You never ever do that,
and ipso facto. If you ever think you're a great poem,
don't ever try and read it on the back or
you've read the great palm, don't try and ever read
on the radio. Not unless you've workshopped at a number
of poetry readings and people have raved about it. Don't
let me normally work. So just putting that out there now.

(01:26:17):
If you wanted to start the discussion about something entirely
different tonight, they don't reckon. That's a good time to
do it. We have no diet in the world. Topic
that I've very much enjoying talking about Bob Lear and
the cricket test in nineteen fifty four. He has died
today at ninety four. His partner, his fiance died on

(01:26:38):
the tongue away trainers aster might be nineteen fifty three.
Eet to other think about it on Christmas Eve and
he continued to plan that cricket test. So that's good
to talk about that. Marcus. Check out Jaguary Home Power
three six hundred on Amazon for twenty thirty nine. It's
what renters have been waiting for and why they jacked
up line fees by five or percent. Regards Ross, thank

(01:27:01):
you helping you with the word straight, the secret lies
and the spelling straight. Narrow passage of water nothing to
do with as straight as in straight line. But if
there was a narrow passage of water, then that would
be the straight straight. Marcus, you had a lady wrote
a story last year that would have been a great
kid's story. She read you a bit on ere. You reluctant,
but let her go. It was great. Can you remember her?
I wonder how she got I remember everything about it.

(01:27:25):
It was all about cars that could talk in the
cat the garage for said story. Wisley. Welcome, Marcus. Good evening, Hi, Marcus.

Speaker 18 (01:27:35):
I'm doing a follow up from your conversations on scooters
and vehicles that are hard to find. Tonight, as the
firefighter strike was wrapping up, me and a bunch of
firefighters were witnessed to a motorcycle versus car incident in
front of a bus. The car that was hit by

(01:27:56):
the motorcycle was a highbrid tioder in electric mode, so
no one could hear where that that vehicle was. The
motorcycle was quite loud, so we knew where it was,
and the bus was electric, but we knew where it
was because it was running its air compressor at the time.
Because I had to break suddenly, and obviously with it

(01:28:17):
being winter and everything. The fact that even motorcycles can
be victims of the same type of crashes that east
screwter riders are.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
Yeah, tell me more.

Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
So.

Speaker 18 (01:28:32):
I'm just doing this as a good reminder that people
need to look before they make the turn to enter
driveways in busy areas because you never know when a
motorcycle or even an eastcrewter's going to turn up. So yeah,
that time ends up finishing the firefighters strike. This evening
was help witness for that accident.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
Are you a firefighter?

Speaker 18 (01:28:55):
I lived, as you know, I lived next door to
Newtown fire stations, one of their supporters.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
And are you saying that their exit was caused by
lack of visibility for the motorbike rider.

Speaker 18 (01:29:05):
Well, because it was a very turning into a driveway
surrounded by heavy traffic and the fact that they weren't
visible the vehicle that was turning did not pay attention
to what was going on around them. Everyone else knew
where the motorcycle was because of how loud it was.
Everyone else knew where the bus was because of sudden
breaking maneuver. Yeah, but no one knew where the Tyota

(01:29:29):
Prius was that that was making the turn.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
So was the prius's fault.

Speaker 18 (01:29:33):
It's looking like it might be. But obviously, thankfully the
bus has camera footage, so I've reported the incident's metlink
so they can pull cameras and it will be up
to the insurance companies to deal with.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
How was the person? Will they bid the injured?

Speaker 18 (01:29:48):
They were, thankfully because they had new safety gear on
that had built in airbags.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
Okay, good to hear, Weizzley, thanks for the twenty five
away from eleven o'clock. If you're on a tour Heitel twelve.
I've googled about the Jeggery three six hundred, so it
seems to be. It seems to be a high capacity
portable power station designed for daily use and emergency home backup,

(01:30:18):
and can charge of four panels portable panels in two hours,
so it's a It would be ideal if you're not
the homeowner because you could take it with you when
you moved house, which is probably the drawback from solar power.
And then if there's a power cut, you could run
your fridges, routers, lights, heaters, water pump, all that sort

(01:30:39):
of stuff from this looks pretty good. A portable, powerful
expedib battery backup solution designed to keep your home or
RV appliance is running when the power goes out. You
can think of it as a large rechargeable battery on
wheels that you can expand to cover anything from a
short blackout to a week long outage. Suitcase style wheels
and handles, you can easily roll the power station between rooms.

(01:31:03):
It's quite safe to use indoors and requires no fuel.
Live span of ten years, and it can charge in
four hours fully on two solar panels. Looks good. I
don't exactly know how it's gonna work for you. It
might work on your camping holiday, but yeah, so it's
largely a battery. I don't know how big the panels

(01:31:26):
are that you need for it to run on the
solar panels. A good evening. I suffer from chronic pain.
To get through a weekday, I use Artemus oil for
nerve cramp and pain. Also use on arthritis knee havenw
hip but gets sciatica Marcus. The Codu products you're talking about,
they make other products as well. They're always pushing these
sleep pills their website. It's not cheap eighty bucks for

(01:31:47):
two months. Supply they always haven't added the insign. I
don't know where the end sign is people. If you
know about that, I think it might be a gore paper.
There's probably a number of papers around the country called
the end sign. But get in touch with our talking
cricket tonight in the South Africa Test and Christmas nineteen
fifty three with Bob Lear having died today at night
ninety four, who was the batsman in that test? Sorry,

(01:32:08):
who was the bowler? But bat in that test? After
the knowledge had come through that fiance had died on
the Tongueway disaster, which was in Christmas Eve when the
Queen was here and a lot of the people on
that train were traveling to Auckland to see the queen.
Remarkable story. So you had some more information about that
would be great. We're also talking about pain Bob and
his pain with his leg and he says, the deep
heat's not working anymore.

Speaker 9 (01:32:30):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
Now, if you've got other stuff that you want to mention,
I don't know what that is tonight. Why poems are
bad on the radio on the Opportunity Party around five percent?
You said it's a risk because you vote for them.
They don't get it, and that's a wasted vote, isn't it?

Speaker 4 (01:32:43):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:32:43):
Or isn't it? Is it a wasted vote? Well, I
guess you are. Is it a waste? I don't really
know the answer there, because you're not changing the outcome
of the government, are you. But it might mean that
the next election they do get more than five percent,
it might give them the wherewithal to carry on.

Speaker 12 (01:32:58):
So there's that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
Just try to see there's any more problems in England
with the heat forty degrees. There's a red heat warning
in England. Of course, what will probably happen now with
a modern grid is now everyone's got their heat pumps
on or air conditions, the probably power cuts and there
are in fact power cuts for sixty eight thousand homes
in France. Infantino is defending the hydration breaks in the

(01:33:23):
World Cup. People hate those, they say it recks the
game and I think the players like it either. And
there's been an extraordinary photo released from the European Space
Agency's Euclid telescope. It's a phara of the Galactic bulge
and it shows sixty million stars. Pretty extraordinary, in fact,
really extraordinary. Have a look at that online eighteen from

(01:33:44):
eleven did we find out where the chicken salt was
available in North Island yet? And ranch dressing which is
the talk of the Football World Cup in the United
States For those that don't know, the Football World Cup
is in the United States of America and Mexico and Canada,
three places. Jan This is Marcus. Welcome and good evening.

Speaker 8 (01:34:07):
Marcus. The name with all the person with Societic rub
on anti flame cream because saiet it's terribly painful. Runs
right down the note anti flam cream that's got anoka
in it and of course taken orally and you can

(01:34:28):
get it at Selene dot Cory dot ins and they'll
post it to you or any health fouture.

Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
Now, I think that the original caller you might have
missed was someone that was concerned about the deep heeat.
He didn't think the deepeat was as strong as it
once was he thinks they're watering it. Well, that's got fillers,
it's not. It's not pecking the punch at once did.

Speaker 8 (01:34:49):
Well, I don't know about deep heat cream that you
can get at the supermarket. It's far stronger because it's
got ans, the big pain reliever.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
Now thin, can you grow anaka?

Speaker 8 (01:35:07):
I don't know. I suppose you can.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
Have you grown it?

Speaker 12 (01:35:11):
No, not yet.

Speaker 8 (01:35:12):
I was telling her friend the other day, who it's
tripped on the steps. She already had a hip problem
and now she's gone and really torn it and we'll
probably have to have an operation now. And of course
you go on the waiting list, and that can go
on for years. So while you're waiting, or instead you

(01:35:34):
can of course, this plant dies off in the winter,
but in the spring it shoots all way. Oh, what's cool.
I'll not think of it soon.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
There was a big step there. You see, this woman
fell from the step and she had to go to
a hospital. But she's waiting. And then you said, this
plant dies off what to look like?

Speaker 8 (01:35:58):
I've forgotten the name of it got grown quite big
and it has big flat very sort of thieves and
you use it to you put it in a sort
of big container.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
Of water and native. Is it a native plant or
is it an exotic?

Speaker 8 (01:36:17):
No, it's not native that I don't think so. One
of the English introduced plants.

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
And what do you do with the big leaves?

Speaker 17 (01:36:25):
Put it in water? A whole lot of leaves.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
I don't describe what the plant looks like.

Speaker 8 (01:36:29):
I told you big flat leaves that are hairy, big leaves.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
How big? I don't know, bigger than a cat.

Speaker 8 (01:36:38):
I don't know what the heck's the name of it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
Well, anyway, it's not it's or something like that, is it.

Speaker 8 (01:36:48):
No, you use the water to water your plants. It
makes everything grow enormous that you can always also wrap
it around any broken bones and it will heal the bone.
O comfort comfrey, that's it, and you can mush it up.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
They got to be careful with comfree because it'll, Yeah,
it can. It can over measure your bones. You've got
to be very careful with that.

Speaker 6 (01:37:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:37:14):
Well, it's better than having a bone that's or crushed
up and extreme pain.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
Yeah, but can you can go the other way? You
can go the other way too far?

Speaker 8 (01:37:25):
Well, you don't put it on too often, not too much.

Speaker 7 (01:37:28):
Everything in moderation, including moderation.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
Yeah, yeah, I just got to I've just I've just
got to be a mindful I can't tell people to
go nuts on comfree because it can.

Speaker 6 (01:37:37):
Be bad for you.

Speaker 8 (01:37:38):
Yeah, but if you put a little poultice on. It's
a bit like Carla Kola. Do you know that plant?

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
Yes, I was asking you if it was a native
plant that you're talking about. That's so I was thinking
of Kwa kawa.

Speaker 1 (01:37:49):
Ah.

Speaker 8 (01:37:50):
Well, I have carb cora up that garden. And if
you've got legal or any sort of skin problem, will
in fact kidney failure or any pain, you can put
these flat leaf of cowa color into a good container, heatproof,

(01:38:11):
pour boiling water over and quickly bring them out and
apply to the area you want to heal. And you
put the vein side down on the area and that'll
draw out any sort of yucky leg ulcery sort of
problem or skin problem, and then you put another leaf

(01:38:32):
on top of that, top side down, and that will
heal it. It's quite incredible. And you can also drink
the juice from the water, you know, or some people
put it in oil in a one of those slow
cookers and the oil then is so healing. You can

(01:38:53):
rub that on good skin to stop healing the leg ulcers,
to stop the leg alsters forming, and rub it on
all around the good skin around the ulcer.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
Jen Jen, Yes, I think I've heard enough. Yeah, I
know you're coming through, but I haven't got the pains.
And I just wonder how much capacity is for the
people to hear about complicated things about processing plants, because
I mean, they won't be writing this down all day
and most I imagine most people would know this stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:39:26):
They don't.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
Well, I think I think if they're interested that research
that that I mean, this is not this is not
the yeah, but I mean you being on about it
and other people go on it. But yeah, I don't
I don't necessarily know that. Yeah, okay, but I try
and keep the show tricking along with different topics and
stuff also too. But if there's long kind of home cures,
I lost. I got lost when you said about the

(01:39:49):
home about the slow cooker. That's when I kind of.

Speaker 8 (01:39:55):
Personally so you're very selfish. That might be right yourself,
what you want, You don't really care about all your
listeners and what they need. You don't care. You cut
people off, you know, it's all about you. Typical male,

(01:40:17):
you know email, it's about you. You think the whole
world revolves around you and what you want.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
You were That's what I think, that's what you're really think. Jen. Yes,
I have been having have you been having? Have you
been having this for a while?

Speaker 8 (01:40:34):
Oh years?

Speaker 6 (01:40:35):
Probably?

Speaker 8 (01:40:37):
I think thanks. Normally I don't say them because I'm
thinking about all the people.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
Really is it kind?

Speaker 4 (01:40:45):
Is it kind?

Speaker 2 (01:40:46):
Is it necessary? Is it true? Nice to talk to you?

Speaker 9 (01:40:50):
Jen?

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
Save it away from eleven f from do you want
the texts? We read the texts? Anyway, Get in touch.
People have loved Gen and Jan. We all love you.
Jan worries me. She's always giving out scary advice that
people might copy. Well, that is one of my concerns. Anyway,

(01:41:20):
someone said Marcus, Jan is an elderly Later, I think
it was very rude to laugh at her. I think
it was laughing with Jan. And by the way, I
wouldn't know how old Jan is. I'd pick her it
early hour, Jan, can you text? Would would be seventy two?
And what's elderly?

Speaker 7 (01:41:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
I think I don't think Jan's elderly. There would be
my take. Anyway, Get in touch. If you want to
talk eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine nine to text.
It's interesting how people are going, aren't They were the
two texts back to back. But get in touch if
you want to. As I say, here till twelve forty

(01:41:58):
degrees in London, hottest day ever in France. So she's
heading up. That's what's happening. There's a rare red heat warning.
And also I think the power grid in France is
in trouble with a number of people without power. But yeah,
unbelievably hot. They're calling it the African anti cyclone. I

(01:42:19):
don't know if Paris would be a pleasant place to
be when it's hot or not hit til midnight. I
live on a seven welcome one of his Marcus. It's
Tim at twelve, Ay, yeah, Tim's at twelve oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty nine nine two detective. You
don't want to come through get amongst it, oh eight
hundred and eighty today, Jimmy, it's Marcus. Good evening, Yeah,

(01:42:40):
good Jimmy.

Speaker 13 (01:42:42):
Before just before, someone was saying something about young people
and being worried about jobs, you know.

Speaker 12 (01:42:50):
Them.

Speaker 13 (01:42:50):
Yes, it was just my bit of my storyline. When
I was down eleven twelve. I grew up in a
small village, just started mining people's lawns from the pub
actually when I was in the public my men and
started doing that, and then that grew into a successful
business that I've got now doing transport.

Speaker 4 (01:43:09):
So yeah, I.

Speaker 13 (01:43:13):
Started off nine lawns and then really block. It's just
just thinking outside the box that people might want.

Speaker 2 (01:43:20):
How old were you when you got your when you
got into the transporting business, I.

Speaker 13 (01:43:24):
Was about nineteen, Yeah, just just got my license.

Speaker 2 (01:43:29):
And how many years ago was that.

Speaker 13 (01:43:31):
I'm thirty one now, so very long ago, so.

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
Ten twelve years ago, yeah, okay, yeah, And then.

Speaker 13 (01:43:37):
So I just started doing lawns and then really bins.
People keep leaving their really bins out and then just
or missing the rubberstruck. So I was going around the
village and just going, you know, open the gate and
putting the whirlybins out for them, and they're getting two
dollars a week, you know, for each house. And it
turned out and by time I was sixteen, I bought
a little digger because I saved that. I wasn't allowed
to spend any of the money. My dad was pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:43:58):
Strict on it, so so really strict.

Speaker 4 (01:44:01):
Yeah, it was really strict on it.

Speaker 13 (01:44:02):
And then so when I was sixteen, I had enough
made to buy you and a little digger a trailer,
and I started doing drive ways and that's sort of
I left school pretty quickly. I was making more money
by not going to.

Speaker 2 (01:44:14):
School than Do you wish you'd stayed at school?

Speaker 13 (01:44:17):
Oh no, I don't think. I think it worked outful
for me. And now see I saw on the truck now.
So it's a lot of hard work. I think that
it's probably just what people might be scared of getting
into it, you know what I mean that the first
hurdle was the hardest partful. Why don't you start making
the connections and after when you're doing the hard work,

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everything just comes to you.

Speaker 2 (01:44:40):
So nice to hear from you, Jimmy, thanks so much
of that. Ten past eleven, Andrew, it's Marcus. Welcome Marcus.

Speaker 17 (01:44:48):
I think you touched on it before. But bob Blears
story trying to bob Blear Dying. It's ninety four today,
and what a hell of the story.

Speaker 2 (01:44:59):
Unbelievable. In fact, it's not often I can just read
texts on a page an instant feel that grief and
that poignancy of that moment. It's uns every time I've
read it, I just I just can't believe it. Just
that just that vision, just the image of them walking
across there to bat.

Speaker 17 (01:45:20):
Yeah, it brings brings me to it. Cheer you think
it's twenty three thousand coming out face what was his name?
Neil Ladcock and the other bloke was high or the
book of South African Bowlers. And after the carnage that
ad Cock had brought on our guys and the great

(01:45:44):
bird Sutcliff, his head swayed, swaths and bandites. Nobody expects this,
this young joke and it came out. It's just lost
it Beyonce and come out to be I mean, jeez, Hollywood,
couldn't be that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
No, Now, Andrew, you obviously know a lot about that
time and about the cricket. Won't ask you how old.

Speaker 17 (01:46:07):
You are made?

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
Okay?

Speaker 13 (01:46:10):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:46:10):
Would this was this a particular because it sounds to
me almost like the Bodyline series. Was it a particularly
brutal test series in terms of the South African bowling?
Were they full of quicks? Were they?

Speaker 17 (01:46:22):
Yeah? They have these two blokes and Iron and I'm
very lot of short pitched bowling, rearing up for good lengths,
and you know how it goes. We're just being smacked
around days before helmets back then pull your head with
gloves for heads in a box, certainly no body protection,

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no helmet, and also the tongue of wire disaster itself.
That put a damn brunt and everybody's Christmas the.

Speaker 2 (01:46:59):
Well, and a damp and a damper on the Queen's
visit too, I would think, because it must have been
a reason to celebrate to you know, I presume she
was Julia Queen, I think so, but yeah she was.

Speaker 17 (01:47:10):
Yeah, this was first visit, of course, and yeah, it
just lighted everybody's Christmas that year. I remember it didn't
quite light my Christmas because I was thirteen and I
got near rifle for Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:47:32):
That'd be an exciting thing to get.

Speaker 17 (01:47:34):
Yeah it was. But the other thing I was going
to say is then we've got a cracking little bowler.

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
Now, I'm Matt Henry, unbelievable.

Speaker 17 (01:47:46):
She just took about line and length for me, and
and Tom Blundell was standing right up to the stunts.
You know, it's it's crack crack. Joe Root style.

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
Just and rerespeak to that because we know that it
took a long time for New Zealand. Really, you know,
we had a lot of tests, but we didn't, did
he when it took us a long time to get
going internationally? Would that team in nineteen fifty three with Sutcliffe?
Were we were we winning matches?

Speaker 7 (01:48:15):
Then?

Speaker 1 (01:48:16):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:48:16):
We were.

Speaker 17 (01:48:17):
We were still pretty much at the fat back end
of the world cricket ringing. Yeah, but he was.

Speaker 2 (01:48:25):
But he himself was word world class, wasn't he?

Speaker 4 (01:48:28):
Oh?

Speaker 17 (01:48:28):
He was man, he was. I saw Bert Sutcliffe that
at Lancaster Park. I can't remember what he did, but
they sent out a kind of second string Australian side
led by a guy called Les Lavel from Queensland and
Bert Bert scored a century and it was exquisite entry

(01:48:50):
you ever saw if there was no sort of wild slogging.
Everything was just placement and field is racing to cut
off the ball and the poor beating them into the boundary.
That one one meter extraordinary batting craft craftsman ship And.

Speaker 2 (01:49:07):
Was that was that part of the course for the
autist to send over a second team.

Speaker 17 (01:49:10):
I suppose back then it's about that condescended to s secondmo.

Speaker 2 (01:49:20):
And we just back to that test in South Africa
would have New Zealand sent that would have been commented
on the radio, would it? Do you remember listening to it?

Speaker 17 (01:49:29):
Me and the dad listening to some of it. I'm
godly hour, but yeah, it's like the South African rugby
test that came later. We sit up and listened to
the commentary.

Speaker 2 (01:49:45):
Yeah, and did you have much success with your air rifle.

Speaker 17 (01:49:50):
I'll tell you a story. My uncle had it, beautiful,
little Often seven, soft top like fabric top you can imagine,
plus Austin seven was little wire wheels and favorite top,

(01:50:11):
and so anyway, I imagine it was the covered wagons riding.
And then I was an Indian. I'd lean around the
corner of the house and lit a few shots off
in anyway, that's all right. My uncle went home and

(01:50:31):
first time he had it heaven, the rain, the rest
hard to poor me, and he saw what the hills
going on, and he looked on the floor of the
car and here here with the talets, the again talents.
So guess what's happened? I had my ear rifle taken

(01:50:52):
off me.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
Fair enough, I'd say, Andrew fear enough. Nice to hear
from you. Thank you so much that seventeen past eleven. Eleen,
it's Marcus. Good evening and welcome.

Speaker 7 (01:51:04):
Good evening, Marcus.

Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
How are you to very good? Thank you Ellen.

Speaker 7 (01:51:08):
Oh, that's good to hear. Hey, I've got more of
a question than an actual statement or comment. Do you
think it's better to vote for what's best for you
or your ideological ideas?

Speaker 2 (01:51:27):
I think it's best to vote. I think it's best
to vote for what's best for everyone, although I think
most people vote out of self interest.

Speaker 7 (01:51:34):
Yeah, but which way to go?

Speaker 4 (01:51:36):
You know?

Speaker 7 (01:51:38):
You can vote ideologically? Sorry I said that wrong, But
at the end of the day, it's it doesn't work
out best for you or is it best just to
go with your own self interest?

Speaker 2 (01:51:52):
And it depends what sort of person you are.

Speaker 17 (01:51:55):
Yeah, sure, I think I think a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
Of people vote out of self interest, which I always
find alarming. It is it is whereas you should, I mean,
you should be voting for the greatest idol good. Yeah,
but I reckon allan, you don't need to panic about
who you're going to vote for it one hundred and
thirty five days or something.

Speaker 7 (01:52:16):
No, I'm not panicking. Okay, that's why I wanted to
talk about it, because if we don't talk about things
we don't know, do I just suddenly think, do you
think of this New Opportunities Party?

Speaker 2 (01:52:28):
I don't really know much about them.

Speaker 4 (01:52:29):
I know that.

Speaker 2 (01:52:31):
I know that in the past they're a party that
Gareth Morgan had started.

Speaker 5 (01:52:37):
And and.

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
They were.

Speaker 1 (01:52:42):
Kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
They had a kind of a know it all men
are about them. They're always the world's expert on everything. Yeah,
I watched them a little bit and then and then
and then in the last election.

Speaker 17 (01:53:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:53:07):
I can't think when the last time they were running
with Gareth Morgan, but I think they tried to they
tried to get controversial. And I think that's when Gareth Morgan.

Speaker 7 (01:53:22):
Because Gareth Morgan's the guy that started trading me.

Speaker 2 (01:53:25):
I think it called Sean Plunkett and as the media
advisor and if memories seriously right, there was a comment
about lipstick on a pig that was made and it
seemed to be it was a comment to try and
get some sort of you know, they tried to get
good ideas. Wasn't enough. They tried to go because people

(01:53:46):
don't talk about good ideas. Because he always communicated them
in such a way that he always made out he
was the smartest guy in the room, and if you
weren't voting for his party, you know, needed your head read.
And then in twenty seventeen they tried to get the
headlines by saying stuff and saying you can't put lipstick
on a pig, or just needed to show she was
more than lipstick on a pig. And I don't think

(01:54:08):
the party. I'm amazed the party has managed to leave
that behind and reinvent itself and get to four point
six percent. I think it's an extraordinary thing. There must
be a lot of money in there for do that.
But I thought they were dead and buried because to
me the brand was like, no, it all's and a
bit smarmy and a bit smug. Oh fair enough, And

(01:54:29):
I guess that's and I guess that's.

Speaker 4 (01:54:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:54:31):
Thanks for the question, because it nailed me to think
more about that. And so now it's a situation this
new woman seems to be. She seems to be, and
it's a contest of ideas and she's bringing new ideas
to the table. At the moment, there's a lot of
policy coming out. I'll wait till some of it trickles
down and see what they need to say. But you know,

(01:54:53):
a centrist party, it's an easy way to do it,
isn't it, Because who do you go with?

Speaker 4 (01:54:56):
You go with?

Speaker 2 (01:54:57):
Do you go with the left, or do you go
with the right?

Speaker 7 (01:55:00):
And I like the universal.

Speaker 2 (01:55:04):
Universal benefit.

Speaker 7 (01:55:06):
Yeah, Like, I think that's a much better way as
a go than just benefits for people.

Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
I haven't quit. I haven't quite worked out where you
save all the money for universal benefits from taking all
the money from taxation bureaucracy. I haven't seen enough of
the numbers to work out how it works. But you know, no,
but yeah, you know. And there's a situation people say, well,
poles are pointless, but I imagine if you're thinking of

(01:55:33):
voting for the Opportunity Party, suddenly poles become quite valid
because if a party is on three percent, you wouldn't
vote for it, would you, Because.

Speaker 7 (01:55:41):
I'm not going to vote for them, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:55:43):
But allan the point I'm making, Ellen, Ellen, the point
I'm making, right, It's an important point to make as
people say that poles are a waste of time, But
I think poles are really important because they show you
what parties are in play because if a party was
on half a percent, you wouldn't vote for them, But
they're on five percent, you would vote for them because

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you know you vote wouldn't be wasted.

Speaker 7 (01:56:08):
Yeah, but that's not necessarily true, Marcus, because like I
voted for Winston Peters like New Zealand first, and everyone
will got angry blah blah blah, and that's fine. The
reason I voted for him was just to stop one
government being in power.

Speaker 2 (01:56:26):
Yeah, okay, And how'd that work out for you?

Speaker 1 (01:56:30):
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