Quite self-contained (23 March 2026)

Marcus gets reaction to the prospect of importing lower quality fuel from across the ditch, and finds out where the most unwelcoming part of New Zealand is.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus lush Night's podcast from News
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Be Greetings and welcome. My name is Marcus. I hope
it's good. We you are he tel twelve o'clock tonight.
A little bit to talk about tonight, Well, I think
it's a little bit to talk about. I hope you
do too. I'm kind of firstly, I'm curious how you
are feeling. Is anyone worried about their car running on

(00:33):
shonky fuel because the fuel standards are changing, and I
mean we must say fuel standards for a reason. You've
got some view on that, Let me know what that
view is. Because they're going to do something with our fueld.
We're going to get sketchy fuel. So yeah, if you're

(00:53):
scared it's going to ruin your car, let me know
how and why. As we speak, there is a fire
in west Auckland in the suburb of Massy Sunline, AB
about seven thirty. If you're a neighbor and got response
or some views about their list, know how that is going.
Let us know that is in sun I was going

(01:14):
to say Sunshine, ever at Sunline AV that's in Messy.
Let us know about that. I wait one hundred eighty Yeah,
but mainly I'm concerned about I think that was Lincoln
Sunline ev not met Oh, and I shouldn't already criticize
the news. Who knows these suburbs. I wait one hundred
eighty tenenty and nine two nine to text you want
to come through? My name is Marcus. Welcome. Oh that's
a different one. That's messy down in the South. It's

(01:36):
Lincoln down in the South. Sorry, but yes, get in touch.
I wait one hundred eighty ten eighty nine two nine
two to text here until midnight tonight. I can't find
where that road is. Now I found it is It's
where I thought it was. But yeah, how that How's

(01:57):
that petrol going to affect your car? So if you
want to talk about that, then I'm all in for
that discussion. I wait one hundred eighty ten eighty Maybe
they said it's not going to affect it. Maybe I
don't know, but I'll be curious because people are quite
especially got new cars. Jocelyn. It's Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Oh him, Marcus. I'm actually very concerned about what these
governments come up with. And I am a national voter,
but I'm not happy.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Okay, wow, that you're ideal for this show? Great? Why
an't you happy if you think it's going you think
it's going to stuff your car? Yeah, yeah, you're probably right.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
I mean, my neighbor and I've been talking about it
tonight and we're both really really consumed and feel probably
that they don't know what they're doing. They they've just decided, God,
we've got to grab anything we can. Well, hey, I
don't want that sort of stuff in my car.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
And it seems as though it's been I mean, we've
had three weeks and now it's on and now something
they've come up with, something which seems underwhelming a little bit.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah, I know. I think there'll be quite a few
people that are concerned about this.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Is your neighbor a National voter?

Speaker 3 (03:11):
No, but she's a New Zealand first voter.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Oh wow wow.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
And I won't be voting for National again. And I've
voted all my life, all my you know that I've
been able to vote, and I'm coming up seventy four.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
I saw chrisphin Layson, the former Attorney General. He was
saying today that there should be an age limit on
people that run for government. They shouldn't. You shouldn't be
able to run for government if you're over seventy. You
got to feel on that.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, I think that would be right because you know,
some people, yes, they're still really alert. I mean I
did home care for many, many years, and some people
at seventy were like probably sixty five, you know what
I mean, they were so alert. But I'm really, I mean,

(04:06):
be really concerned about what they're thinking of doing.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
I say, it's got high sulfur for the car. Maybe
it's not the cart stuff. Maybe it's just the environment.
Get stuffed.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
No, I think it's your car.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
Get stuffed.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
You got a new you'd have a new car too,
would you?

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Justly, I've I've got.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
A little Brena spark which is about seven years old.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Oh yeah, they'd be terrible. I'm soulf for the old spark.
It does, it's even in the name. It wouldn't be good.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
I just no, I'm just not happy. And I think
a lot more people need to ring up and they
need to listen to us.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I wonder if there's things you could put it. You
know how there used to be fuel aditives for all
the rage. I wonder if there's stuff you can put
in that make it. It makes it run a bit
better with this nasty Aussie fuel.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
But we shouldn't have to.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Look, we don't know how long this war is gonna go.
Might finish tomorrow, as trust it.

Speaker 6 (04:57):
Since it's going to.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
I don't think I don't think Trump can finish it
off his once two. Now, once you start, it's like
setting off a chain reaction. You can't just stop it
because he's under well we yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
But I thought, yes, I'm definitely ringing.

Speaker 7 (05:12):
You tonight, brilliant.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
I really appreciate that, Jocelyn. We'll keep talking about that
eight hundred and eighty tend nine nine detext fuel.

Speaker 8 (05:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
I mean, they've got standards for a reason. Andrew, this
is Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 9 (05:27):
Hi Marcus. Hey, Look, I'm pretty sure I was listening
to Hoskins So earlier in the week and he had
an Aussie correspondent on who said the Aussies don't want
the fuel they refine a Ausy because the salsa is
too high or something. It can damage the cars. So
I'm bit worried that they may be sending us the
dodgy fuel if we collect from Australia.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
My understanding was Australia themselves have changed their standards to
allow the high sulf of fuel, and now we've done
the same. That's my understanding.

Speaker 9 (05:59):
But I don't think any of us want to sign
up for long term damage to our cars.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
No, but the alternative is there's no fuel.

Speaker 9 (06:07):
Oh, that'd be fine by me.

Speaker 10 (06:08):
We're from home.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Well, of course you don't have to put the fuel
cod time. You don't have to put the fuel in
your car, though, but I want to. Probably it's going
to encourage how would.

Speaker 9 (06:17):
You know, like I mean, going to be at the pumps.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Good point, really good point.

Speaker 11 (06:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
If I was someone that kid about my car, i'd
be stockpiling fuel.

Speaker 9 (06:30):
Now yeah, I'm not sure the economics work on that yet.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
No, it's not. It's not about the economics. It's about
saving your car from high soul for fuel.

Speaker 9 (06:42):
Yeah, we might talk to something. I mean, I do
have a work colleague who said he's got one of
those fuel companies. He was able to pre buy fuel.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Those people are so smug and boring.

Speaker 9 (06:56):
Oh he looked very smug. But yeah, even your dad. Now,
so I don't know. Maybe family were chipping on ahead
of time, realizing your budget was going to be a
bit tight, so good for them. But if you've done
that and now you're locked in for a fuel company
that's going to be selling you crap fuel, it wouldn't
be so flash.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
No, that's a good point.

Speaker 9 (07:18):
The transparency at the pump and the and the consumer
gets a choice. I'd be happier with that.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
It does say high sulfur fuel is detrimental to modern vehicles,
primarily causing in total engine corrosion, accelerated oil degradation, damage
to mission control systems like diesel particulate filters and the
cadidate converters.

Speaker 9 (07:38):
Okay, that doesn't sound like something we want in our car.
No future maintenance problem.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yes, yes, well that's right. Okay, I'm enjoying your passion, Andrew,
thank you for that dirty fuel. Dirty dirty fuel. So
it's worrying. It's also not good for cardiovascular health, so
I wouldn't run the car and the garage while you
do your pilates being Marcus, welcome you, Marcus.

Speaker 12 (08:04):
I wouldn't be putting it a few and more ute
look on familiar with looking a nausea, or spend a
bit of time living over there. It's got a higher
solver content and it burns quite well over there because
it's a hot climate. But as soon as you've got
a cold climate, like we're about to come into winter
and like I live in christ Church and it gets
bimm and cold, it's no good in a cold climate.

(08:25):
It's gonna you know, choke up your caddy and all that.
So yeah, I'll probably stay away if you can.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
You say, Keddy, is that your care let a converter?

Speaker 5 (08:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (08:34):
Yeah, yeah, it's like I probably like just burning it
for a few weeks. It's not been causing any issues,
but long term, i'd say it would. There's just different climates.
There's a lot hotter over there, so it can handle it.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
It doesn't sound good, no, no, no, and.

Speaker 12 (08:54):
Yeah, and then I noticed mac as I went to
redeem my arm because I chucked some on the z
app like locked it in. I went to redeem it
the other day to fill up my tank in that
and they said you can still redeem it, but you
can't off of anymore. That's stopped the yet for some reason.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
How dare they had you already paid money?

Speaker 12 (09:15):
No, well, you've already prepaid it, so they're going to
honor it. They're going to honor everything that someone's people
have locked in, but you just can't lock them anymore.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Oh fair enough, Yeah, okay, good on your ben, Thank you.
I'll get to the texts. How are you feeling about this? Dirty?
Feel dirty fuel? Not good? I kind of thought that, don't.
I think even in the government thought the war was
going off over in four days? Had listen to Trump,

(09:43):
high sulf for e fueler is ruining engines in Canada?
Doesn't petrol have a shelf life of six weeks? Therefore
stockpiling not smart? I haven't heard. No, I haven't heard
it's got a short life span. I've heard diesel get
some bacteria, but it's six to ten months, six to
twelve months. But you can put an editive. Is there
any information with Jock tann and fuel to receive the

(10:04):
dodgy grade sulfa mix ninety one, ninety five or ninety eight?
Will we get a choice at the pumps? Someone said
your understanding is wrong. They have specifically excluded the high
soul for oil. Will I'll be reading that now, So
if that's true, you better let me know about that,
because I'm not seeing that just yet. So it's unclear.

(10:26):
Although sea and Shane Jones, you never to understand what
he says, always makes a joke. I think that it's
unkind of us to refue to our Aussie compatriot is duty,
he joked. Some of the specks that exist in Australia
are slightly higher than what we have in New Zealand.
So the temporary alignment with Australian specification could remain in
place for up to twelve months if needed. Minifes Minister

(10:51):
for Resources Shane Jones said Cabinet agreed to temporarily allow
fuel that meets Australian specifications to be supplied to the
New Zealand market. It seems that the standards have been
relaxed so they can allow the fuel that meets the
Australian standards, but the Astralians are allowing highest sulfur fuel
which is not coming across here. That's my understanding. But yeah,

(11:14):
I think this is just the beginning of a lot
of a lot of changes. See, our fuel specification is
already re similar to Australia's fuel refined to Australia standard
as compatible vehicles and meet safety and quality expectations. So
that's the situation. So maybe not the high sulfur fuel yet, Robin.
It's Marcus. Welcome, Hi Marcus, Hi, Hi Robin. Yeah.

Speaker 13 (11:40):
I heard about the the fuel that was coming in
weeks and weeks and weeks ago, and actually it was
on your this radio station, and I thought to myself, hmm,
I really don't know if I want to go there, so.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, sorry, sorry, Robin. I think this has just been
announced today. I don't know if there would have been
anything that would have been announced weeks and weeks and
weeks ago. There was talk, actually there's talk, but nothing
with Heather.

Speaker 13 (12:11):
Heather. Heather actually had had been talking about it. And
it's just that I do have understanding of of the
dirty fuel line scenario, so I twinked. I just thought

(12:33):
to myself, hmm, okay, radio, go and get some pure
and do what you need to do.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
How much is stockpiled, Robin?

Speaker 14 (12:44):
Not a lot?

Speaker 2 (12:45):
How much?

Speaker 13 (12:46):
Well, I've filled up my car and got a jerry can,
a small jerry can for the lawn mower of ninety
one and the car is ninety one, and another one
that is for my daughter's motorbike.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Okay, keep it under lock and key Jif it's Marcus, good.

Speaker 15 (13:07):
Evening here again, Marcus, it's about the dirty fuel, yep.
I'm just wondering about like the guarantees, like for a
car that I've got a car under twelve months old
and it's guaranteed for US AH so many miles and
so forth, and if I put the dirty fuel in

(13:28):
it and the engine and that, I mean, I think we're.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Going to be here.

Speaker 7 (13:33):
I think.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Looking through the articles, we're just getting fuel to the
Australian standards, so we're not getting the high solfur fuel.
But they've always got different standards to we have because
it's different climate. I would imagine.

Speaker 15 (13:47):
Yeah, I'm just just talk back before that if you
put in an engine, that could stuff up the engine.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
But I think there might have been an overreaction from us.
But it's good because people want to talk about it.
But that would be my take on that.

Speaker 15 (13:58):
Yeah, yeah, I just look for guarantee for the vehicle,
you know, like you know what I mean, it's like
you put the dirty fuel in the engine.

Speaker 16 (14:06):
Up.

Speaker 15 (14:06):
That's just worrying about how the guarantee goes with the
new vehicle, you know.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
No, I think I need to walk that back of
it because that doesn't appear to be the full details
through that, but we might might and we might even
go that way. You know, if we get short of people,
we might need that high self for stuff. Johnny Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 8 (14:23):
Oh, good evening. Yeah, when you were talking about other options,
I just looked it up because this is a bit
of a shocked man. Yes, there's no facilities really for
refining the sulfur out.

Speaker 10 (14:40):
Of the.

Speaker 17 (14:42):
You know, there's refining it out of the petrol and
Australia has only got facilities that can manage ten percent
of its needs. So both countries have lost our abilities
to refine pill and we've just got you know, terminals
to receive and they said the cost to be you

(15:03):
know of seven billion or something to build it would
be you know, bad business, not cost effective. But I
think there's other options, Like there's a little place at
the mounting here that makes them diesel from fish and
chip fat. And I'm not saying that we could power
our country on fish and chip fat well, but there

(15:29):
must be some other biogas options given the amount of
solid waste that we've got, and there's been plenty of
evidence of countries stilling it on mass, like in Pakistan
and India for decades and decades, so they say it's
not possible, it's cross costs too much. But I think
Necessity is a good provider of new ideas and him

(15:52):
to do this. So I'm looking forward to someone coming
out with some solutions and seas for all the problems.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
It's interestinguse I'm already getting text from people and you know,
and probably it seems so that the Australian standards fuel
is not going to damage engines. That might have been
the speculations in the first twenty minutes. But there's people
texting me that their schools have told their that I've
going to text her that a teacher has told their
child that they will be Marcus Lawana, my son has

(16:21):
been told by his teacher today that they'll be likely
to be moving to whole homes schooling within three weeks
due to the petrol shortage.

Speaker 17 (16:29):
Of course, that's catastrophizing and you know, yeah, I'm feel
sorry for their teacher.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Well, I mean, there is school holidays coming up, but
that you know, there's and that's what happens. I think
because the government actually the government prevaricated for too long
and didn't actually front and I think, well, then there
we've already heard that woman's whoard that you know on
someone else's show that they're talking about bad guests coming in.
I think the communications needed to be clearer.

Speaker 17 (16:58):
Definitely, thanks Marcus.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Nice to talk to you, Johnny, thank you for that. Marcus.
Desperate times cool for new measures. I like the ANZACs spirit.
Remember when people talk about soul from fuel, they're ready
to talk about parts per million, and that's what the
key difference is. Show up dieselers now of re clean
across the board, Marcus. I'm happy you run my nineteen

(17:21):
eighty nin Kapa bus on any old diesel. Hopefully it's cheaper. Marcus.
If Jocelyn believes over seventy should not be able to
stand for parliament, what about seventy year old is not
being allowed to vote. I think that the guy thought
they could still vote, Marcus. Does not matter what the
government is in, they will do the same. What is

(17:42):
the other option where a great at monument can't pluck
fuel from the air, Marc's understand the six tank is
heading for Australia be divided elsewhere, So where is our
fuel coming from? If not Australia, Marcus, they keep saying
that twenty percent of the world Doyle passes through the
Straits of Hormuz. How come the other aadycent of the
world can't fill that gap? Well for obvious reasons, because

(18:04):
we're twenty percent short and they've tried to release all
the extra stores and stockpiles, it hasn't done anything. And
all that all through the straight of hormones. It goes
to the developing countries, to the ones that are really
fuel in the economy with it be China, Corea, Japan, Singapore, Taiwan,
using in Australia where they make all the chips, the

(18:28):
straight of hor moves. I've started calling the Fovo straight
the state of the Straight of Fovo. Seems to be
a better way to do it, doesn't it. Eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty nine two nine to the text,
Feel free to come through Kennan's Marcus good evening and welcome.

Speaker 11 (18:45):
I'm a KA dealer in New Cara and and Perso
in Mahandra is sort of hole stuff. I asked the
dealer service managers tomorrow how the cow is going to
be able to run on this Australian pull. So no,
and I think that's probably the best target to go for.
It's all speculation at the moment.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, agreed, and they will and they will no straight
away becers care themselves will have that. Will that be
part of their sales agreement that they would know.

Speaker 11 (19:14):
And not my sales agreement?

Speaker 2 (19:16):
No, because but care is the care is the manufacturers
the vehicles that know what the local fuel does to
their car.

Speaker 11 (19:23):
Yes, they know what it is for you know, for
New Zealand standards that they have engines that work for
the standard of fuel. But we also I'm not sure,
but I think we get the same cars as Australia
get anyway I know, but as a whole in dealer
that the bringers back, it comes. It's the same car

(19:44):
between whether we got in Australia we got in New Zealand.
But it has to be that people who know will
be the technical guys at the manufacturers. And you know,
I'm a mechanic by background, but ourn my own business
as well. And I'll talk to my people tomorrow, my stakeholders,
you know, my franchisers, and just find out from them

(20:08):
it's what's sexually true and what's false. Did you write
the Mahindra Yeah, I don't mind them. A little three
ex is a cool little car? How much? How much
for three x twenty one of them? I mean imagine
people say I was an Indian car, blah blah blah.
You measure to you like an India arrel. Rolls are

(20:29):
squeaking in the ear, pulling you together if you got
it wrong, because wins themselves death.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Well it's not so longo people saying it was a
Japanese car and no good you know. I mean, that's
just that's just a shock of the new, isn't it.

Speaker 18 (20:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (20:44):
Well jet was it was where true to jet crap
early on, wasn't it?

Speaker 19 (20:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (20:47):
Absolutely, the first sorted that out?

Speaker 2 (20:49):
And then Korean the Korean cards. But I mean your keys.
I mean that's a strong car now, isn't it?

Speaker 11 (20:54):
Yeah? Very strong brand.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Okay, I love the word Mahindra twenty seven away from nine.
Keep your calls coming through eight hundred and eighty. Judges
are rolled for a time and a due pension at seventy,
So judges and so should you not be able to
go for politics if you're over seventy? What do you
think of that? Marcus? My normal diesel fill which usually

(21:17):
cost eighty bucks just cost one twenty. That hurts Marcus
good evening. We're not going to be working from home.
That's a cop out for the folks who extort the
system like they did during COVID work from home. They
weren't even working. How do you know they weren't even working?
I think what happened during COVID, right is it people
found they got all their work done in four hours

(21:37):
and then walk the dog because what they found out
and this was a survey. I think it was from
a guy that cleaned windows in the UK and he
could see into people's offices and he reckoned after midday
it was just everyone was just on eBay or Etsy.
No one's doing any work after midday. They're just tapped out.

(21:58):
What are those people that are called? What's the when
you just go to work? I don't really do anything.
Dan quiet quitting, Yeah, it's been a problem radio for
a long long time, the quiet quitters. There's do nothing,
but you can't get rid of them. What about boat
owners chugging us? What about us bowtowners chugging around with diesel?

(22:20):
Twenty seventeen dollars lead twenty twenty five dolls later, twenty
twenty six, three dollars later, how can we keep our
gin palaces going each weekend? Yep, head on midnight twenty
five to nine some I reckons everyone in there, Marcus
years ago filled my old falcon you'd have at the
shell and coomu we week later, I pulled up the
exact same punt where I realized my petrol powered four

(22:41):
point one Leader motor had be running beautifully, albeit a
bit smoky on diesel. Wow, Matthew, it's Marcus.

Speaker 10 (22:48):
Good evening, Hi, Marcus.

Speaker 20 (22:51):
Yeah, Matthew here Obviously you know my name's Matthew, and
I know your name's Marcus.

Speaker 18 (22:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (22:58):
No, Hi, I'm I'm basically you just get on with her.

Speaker 21 (23:02):
Wait.

Speaker 20 (23:02):
Where I'm a little bit stuck because I watched a
lot of the news media and the news channels and
some of the daytime radio. But where I get a
little bit suck is the war that is happening with
Iraq and Iran and America. Is that they keep saying
these countries they only supply twenty percent of the petrol

(23:26):
to the world. So I'm well, I just want to
know where where is the eighty percent of the other
petrol that is supplied to the world. Okay, Iraq, I imagine.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
I imagine it would be Canada, United States because the
Russia and South America probably.

Speaker 10 (23:46):
Venezuela, South America.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
All right, yeah, that'd be my guess. I'll google up
and see how that goes. Major fuel producers countries, what
do you reckon will be number one? I think it
depends on you depends on on your potential or how
much you're producing.

Speaker 20 (24:03):
It makes me think that the investors don't want to
invest into Iraq or Iran because they are doing the
nuclear weapons in their war projects, and America and the
other countries want to supply oil without being affected, potentially
avoiding a war that doesn't need to happen.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
I think Brazilian, Brazil, and Norway and China arend to that,
and Saudi of course with Saudi's in the Middle East.

Speaker 20 (24:30):
So what about New Zealand if we need to be
supplied by petrol. We don't need Iraq, we don't need Iran, and.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
I think we do.

Speaker 20 (24:40):
We do need them, that's what makes eighty percent of petrol.
But the eighty percent of the petrol coming from the
rest of the world. Surely we would never run out
of petrel. Within seven weeks late, the New Zealand government proposed.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
You can't just cut supply of a vival ingredient by
a fifth and expect the world to cope. No, the
fifth is a lot. It's almost a quarter.

Speaker 20 (25:11):
Yeah, you know. No, I'm just stuck on the eighty percent.
With the eighty percent, the rest of the petrol that
can be supplied to the world, well.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
It's not. It's probably a lot of it is used
by where it's sourced, like America and South America and China.
I don't know how, I mean a lot of I
mean all China's would be used because they imported as well. Yeah,
but look, I think I think you can take it
as a big problem. Otherwise it wouldn't be a big deal.
Otherwise the war wouldn't be If we could cope really
well without twenty percent of the fuel, we wouldn't have

(25:42):
the panic that we've got.

Speaker 20 (25:44):
Yeah. Yeah, people panicked by But it's sort of, you know, like,
let's not panic too much because there's eighty percent of
the pet.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
No, you misunder you misunderstand that.

Speaker 20 (25:55):
That's understand Oh sorry, yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, No, it's a big deal.

Speaker 20 (25:58):
Yeah, it's a big deal. Because it's one little channel
that's cut off between the shipping may not see this
is what they showed on to you. The shipping lane
is cut off. They're not letting ships through. And I
think when it comes to Donald Trump and the film leaders,
they simply going to design a new shipping lane. It's

(26:19):
going to take longer for our petrol to get here,
but there's a new shipping lane, and eventually it will
be delivered and our petrol won't be from Iraq or
I run with their war.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
So I phased out. There's the new shipping channel.

Speaker 20 (26:34):
Well, the new shipping channel. What they are saying is
how Greenland is melting the eye the Americans. They want
to create a new shipping channel there and avoids going
through the Middle East. This is another subject that I've
heard that is it cuts shipping costs dramatically because it's

(26:56):
not going through the channels where.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
If it's coming from Greenland, it's coming a long way.

Speaker 20 (27:02):
Yeah, so Greenland, because the ice is melting through Greenland,
Donald try Trump wants that use shipping lane through Greenland
to supply pretty much the whole world.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah okay, Yeah. All I can say is that it's
a real big deal that we're down twenty percent suddenly.

Speaker 20 (27:21):
Yeah, and if we do run out of petro and
New Zealand, we'll just have to be a logicaled. Hey,
you know I'm in the use You use your bicycle,
you use the train, public transport, the buses and all that.
All a bit will increase in price. But hopefully because
the New Zealand's behind the times. Also markers is that

(27:44):
we're not. We don't have as much electric vehicles there.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
I think you need to fuel all our groceries and
our supply chain is largely dependent on diesel powered truck,
so we need fuel for that. Look at Stuart Island,
the ferries going across that runs on diesel. The planes
go across their running on evgas, and Steward Island and
South Rockey Era all the places they're run on diesel generators,
Places that are already be affected. What are we going
to pay for it? With Kiwi fruit? The country is

(28:11):
flat broke. Were not fonterra? What they was here? Half
of your profit seven fifty million? Woo heard all the
farmers saying, well this year we could actually take a profit,
a dollar per kilo profit. Marcus wondering about the text
you read a few minutes ago. My friend has a
game fishing boat that costs thirty thousand to fill up.

(28:33):
It'll now cost forty five thousand. Wow. I don't know
what Brent crew don at the moment, we haven't been
looking at the news. All be a dollar twelve, that'll
be my guess. A dollar nine. Well, that's good. It's
come down. Well it actually hasn't come down, but in
this scrap hasn't got as high as it was. It

(28:55):
was a dollar eleven last week. So yeah, you're not
coming down anytime soon. Hitdle midnight tonight if you want
to talk. Sixteen to nine backsone. By the way, just
if you want to get excited by this. It's ten
years since we had the flag referendum. They are saying
the process was flawed because it was because we voted

(29:16):
for the current flag against the best alternative. So people
just voted no, even if they didn't like the current flag.
So yeah, till I always thought. I always thought from
right at the beginning of the process was flawed. We
could have got a new flag, we could have been
under a new flag. Now we're not. But it was
kind of all rushed and a bit shonky. It was
my take on that one thirteen to nine. Now we

(29:39):
are looking at Chris fhin Lason saying there should be
a limit to seventy year old for people that run
for government. What do you think of that upper age
limit on Poloshen seventy years? Yeah, So if you want
to talk on that too, current talk on that, that's good.
I don't know what is currently happening in the war.

(29:59):
I know there was a forty eight hour ultimatum, yep,
and that hasn't come to affect yet. So Fatty Barol
is the head of the International Energy Agency. He says
the global energy crisis caused by the world around as
according to the combined force of the twin ale shocks
of the seventies and the flow of Russian's invasion of Ukraine,

(30:20):
the growing fallout could be seriously compounds for interruptions to
the vital arteries of the global economy, including petrochemicals, fertilizer,
sulfur and helium not understood by world leaders. Forty energy
essets and the Gulf had been severely or varyo severely damaged,
so even an end of the conflict would not immediately

(30:41):
restore energy supplies. That's right. The whole infrastructure stuffed or
got bomb Who wants the helium? Is it for the balloons? Hello, Bob,
it's Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 21 (30:53):
He sort of stormed my thunder there. I was just
going to say that dumb. Even if they open the
AM I straight I'm blown up, or they're oil producing capability,
so it's not going to make one bit of difference.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
But the little it, it's gone sparticularly badly, isn't it.

Speaker 18 (31:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (31:10):
I mean, okay, they might be able to get some
fertilizer on that out and some other bits and pieces,
but it's for the petrol price. Get used to it,
because it's going to be staying there. I got forty
dollars last week, I got forteen point six liters. I
bought forty dollars today and I got eight point one liter.
Did you ring the polate which is not even enough
to pull up a jolly petrol mother?

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Did I one one one and say you'd been robbed?

Speaker 22 (31:34):
No?

Speaker 21 (31:34):
I felt like it. I have advised people to drive
off from the petrol station, pull their car as full
as they can get it, just drive off, don't pay
for it. And when the people at the petrol station
who own it complain, tell them to get the money
off the mother companies like DP and challling that because
if they can rip us off, we can rip them off.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
You have done it yourself, though, have you?

Speaker 15 (31:56):
No?

Speaker 21 (31:56):
No, I haven't had the guts to me.

Speaker 15 (32:01):
Right.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
I think you've got to mouddy your plates before you
do it. I'm not advocating that, but they'll go.

Speaker 21 (32:06):
No, they've also got pictures that you're sitting in your cab.
But I mean there must be a lot of that
sort of thing going on that wasn't going on.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Twenty percent fuel drives or thirty percent people driving off.

Speaker 21 (32:16):
Yeah, I haven't done it yet yet.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
There's a Big five being reported on Napier Hill, so
our newsroom's phone there. And if you've got some deeps
the elios.

Speaker 8 (32:25):
No.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
There's also been a product recall at Peck in South
moor House. It's bread products. Now therese will be some
new terms for some of us. How is that what
top one pronounced dan sheer bart loaf, Shaparta roll six
and two free peck, jumbo Jiparta rolls, four Peck Turkish

(32:46):
bread Turkish rolls pecked and clear plastic. I don't know
if it'll kill you or just bits of metal in it.
I love a product recall. Head on midnight. My name
is Marcus. Welcome Peter Marcus, Evening, MICUs.

Speaker 23 (33:00):
I understand that one of the products that comes out
of the refineries is used for making plastic, and I
just wondered if I don't. I don't know, but you
walk around a supermarket milk bottles and made of plastic.
You wouldn't be able to buy a packet of biscuits
if they all coming in plastic little trays that your

(33:21):
meat sits on and in the fridge. I did hear
something that the government was concerned about it, but then
it's gone quite in the media.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Well, no crime. If they start using this plastic, probably
a good thing.

Speaker 23 (33:36):
Yeah, you could always take your own continent.

Speaker 18 (33:38):
Of or put it into glass.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Put it into glass, Yeah, I think.

Speaker 23 (33:44):
I mean the issue would be half faster, half fast.
A factory could change from one thing to another. You
see those production lines where stuff is just flying part
you know, it's like you could do long term, but
I'm not sure how it would work. Have any any
of your other callers mentioned the plastics.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, I've been quite a long talk about plastical in
the last couple of weeks. Surprised all the fertilizer comes
from there. What is the fertilizer coming from? Hormus?

Speaker 7 (34:13):
Oh?

Speaker 23 (34:13):
Natural gas? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Is that made for it? I know that some of
our super phosphate comes from like so I know a
super phosphate comes from like tun this year or something.

Speaker 23 (34:24):
Yeah. Yeah, But the main way that they make it
is natural gas. And that's why people like Balance are
talking about pulling out in New Zealand most of our
most of our fertilizer, I believe is important. Yeah, it is,
because we're going to run out of gas and so Balance,
you know, there will be no more manufacturing a fertilizer here.

(34:45):
It just doesn't make sense to make it from L
and G.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
So what do you use? You use phosphate and natural gas?
Is that right to make UREA?

Speaker 24 (34:58):
I think?

Speaker 23 (34:58):
I think so, I know. I know it's an energy,
really heavy energy, really heavy.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah, I know something that worked in the fact in
the teeth turned green. So I haven't quite sure what
goes on in there.

Speaker 23 (35:11):
That's all one of us and Sins about food Blackets said,
we use about fifteen and the food we met fifteen
calories ends up on your plate being one caligate calorie
of energy for you because of until the oil that's
used to you know, big tractors and trucks moving it
around and energy to cook it. At the end of

(35:32):
the day, you're literally eating fossil fuel in terms of
an energy input. And you can sort of imagine.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
You've got to become a loc of ore.

Speaker 23 (35:44):
Yeah you normally okay, we you know, we can grow
up dgies and have enough cheap and bee.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
But yeah, the farmers are hooked on the harmers farmer well,
I guess the farmers are hooked on super phosphate. Only
the ones that are report exporting milk powder a dairy.

Speaker 23 (35:57):
Yeah, dairy is highly intensive. You're really you throw a
huge amount of money onto your lens. If you're a
dairy farmer, then you.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Get a little did you get the palm kernels with
the orangutar in them and the habitat? It's bad?

Speaker 23 (36:10):
Yes, joy, isn't it a.

Speaker 18 (36:14):
Change?

Speaker 23 (36:15):
We have to move away from farming.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
We're gonna make video games. That's what they always say,
isn't it? Or apps? You took to be seven pastime.
There has been a plane crash at Lagardia Airport. There's
dramatic pictures of that to kill down multiple injurede Out
to Air Canada flight crashes into a ground vehicle on
the runway. It's about half past six our times, so

(36:41):
I don't know why there would be Well, obviously there
shouldn't have been a vehicle on the runway. The flight
from Montreal was landing when the aircraft struck a Port
Authority rescue vehicle on the runway. Pilot and co pilot
died in the collision. The risk Q vehicle was responding

(37:01):
to a separate incident at the time. Shocking looking amount
of damage. So I'll just describe that because it's something. Obviously,
people are fescinated by plane acidents because they are so visual.
It's a near Canada. I don't know what sort of
plane it is, like sevent thiry seven or something, but

(37:26):
it looks like just an ordinary plane the whole way
up until you get to about ten minutes from the front,
and then it's just it's sitting up. It's sitting on
its tail and the front of the plane is up
high in the sky and all the front stuff has
just fallen out of the plane and is just falling down.
It's an extraordinary image. Go look at that online if

(37:47):
that's something that you find interesting or horrific anyway, that's
just used, that's through CNN is reporting that. But I
don't know what all that stuff is it's fallen out
of it. I guess it's all just wires and avionic stuff. Hey,
I keep the discussion going. I've enjoyed talking tonight so far.
So always interesting talking about the pet petro economy, or

(38:11):
what if you'd call it. Marcus one of helium of
which there is a world ride shortage made. The use
is the chirogenic coolant in MRI scanners, another critical element
in long period deep water diving. The divers have nitrogen
substituted for helium CRJ nine hundred hit by a fire truck.

(38:34):
Marcus regards to plastic and factories using it for plastic packaging,
biscuit packaging. There are packaging companies that can supply a
lined paper alternative that will work with those packaging machines.
The machines just a little tweak to make them work.
I know it's not a solution for most, but it
works for anything. That is flow wrapped like biscuits, chips, lollies.
By the way, I feel quite strong about plastic. There's

(38:56):
research through that the amount of plastic that's recycled is
five percent, and the amount of plastics we had to
use for packaging is got at times by four by
twenty fifty. I think the plastic company is always encouraged
recycling because they thought it would make people feel better
about using plastic. With plastics, plastics no good anyway, Do

(39:18):
come through if you if you want to talk Hittel midnight,
Oh weight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine to nine
two texts. If you want to come through. We are
talking about the situation in Iraq. We are talking about
the flag referendum. We are talking also about whether you
should be not allowed to run for politics if you're

(39:39):
over ninety. So yeah, that's a situation. You want to
come through, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine
to nine two to text. You want to come through
Hettel twelve O. There is something else you'd want to mention,
get in touch, So yeah, as I say, oh eight
hundred eighty toenaighty and nine two nine two texts looking
forward to what You've got to say question a completely

(40:04):
different topic. If you want to through on this, what
do you think would be New Zealand's least friendly city
or town? If you've ever moved somewhere and found the
people so unwelcoming you've moved away, what would be the
least friendly place? What is the place that's really bad

(40:26):
for outsiders? There might be some interesting response that if
you want to make a comment about that. Even moved
somewhere and thought, nah, not doing that, people aren't very welcoming?
What is that place?

Speaker 13 (40:43):
So?

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Yes, that's something I'd like to explore tonight. Good weather
up and down the country CRJ nine hundred. Marcus diesel
fuel commercials could be subsidized, and our fish and chips
would stay a weekly treat. I think all the fish
is going overseas, isn't it. I think it's pretty obvious, Bruce,

(41:05):
it's Marcus.

Speaker 22 (41:05):
Good evening, Good evening, Marcus. I googled this, and because
I was up in Raglan?

Speaker 2 (41:15):
What does that mean? What does that mean? I googled this?
Does that mean you've researched it?

Speaker 22 (41:19):
Sorry forgive me. I was googling as to why when
I was up in Raglan I saw these anti exploration
exploration term that's going on there was the dreams were

(41:40):
up there and anyway, So I found out that in
twenty eighteen the labor it was the news.

Speaker 25 (41:49):
It was.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Bruce, what are we talking about? We're talking about fuel
while we're enough fuel?

Speaker 22 (41:56):
Yep, yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Are you saying we get it all locally.

Speaker 22 (42:00):
Locally? Why we haven't gotten it? Haven't haven't gotten nothing yet.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
I don't think there's much out there. I don' think
this that we've got as good for automotive vehicles anyway.
I think it's pretty simplistic to say that's the that's
the that's the that's the fault. It would be it
would only ever be a minor, a minor producer of it,
I think. I think, I think what it's the fault
of is the war in the Middle East.

Speaker 22 (42:24):
Yeah, but they ever banned all the offshore oil then
guess exploration in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
That's not but the permit's gonna take a long time
before those fields became productive. It's years and years and
years of of of exploration and then bringing it. It
doesn't happen quickly. These are twenty twenty five year things.
To happen.

Speaker 22 (42:46):
This is only six short years ago.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
We know it takes a long time, and the world
is moving and the and the world is moving towards
you know, a fossil that that's why China is doing
so well in all of this. They're pivoting to solar
and wind like there's no tomorrow. They know the future.

Speaker 22 (43:04):
Yeah, well, I'm letting us go.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Aheadden Solar panels have never been cheaper, Bruce. Have you
considered changed the name of your show to Dardy? I radiate?
Why would we call it that? Good weather is changing?
Sandy Marcus has been a great run of it. When
I moved to the Eden, didn't find it particularly welcoming,
especially if you say you're from Auckland. So the place
that's unwelcoming Fielding, where's the most unwelcoming place in the country.

(43:31):
Auckland is awful, especial in Ponto in the c D areas.
I moved south to Wayouku, where people are wonderful. I
just tuned and y sa it would be good to
get rid of plastic if we want to be positive.
It's so overused we need to get rid of it.
Should be in voting after the age of eighty five.
It's like choosing a movie for everyone else to watch

(43:52):
it in le living five minutes after it starts. Auckland, Australia. Hopeery.
But yeah, places that you moved to, Nelson, Tasman most unwelcome,
shame places so beautiful, but maybe they don't want to share.
I've heard that about Nelson. I've heard people have moved
to Nelson and have had a very unwelcoming I can't

(44:14):
imagine it would be. Every time I've been there it's
been a delight. But yes, the least welcoming places. Oh wait,
one hundred and eighty ten eighty text if you can,
and there's a product, recall the Jabata bread from Peckin
Save Moorhouse. It probably won't kill you. Just be a
bit of metal in there from one of the mixes.

(44:34):
Normally I'm always disappointed by a mixer one.

Speaker 19 (44:37):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
I was horrified when I was watching TV one on
Sunday lunchtime, a UK Christmas TV show was on. They
were showing two different Christmas shows. Why would they be
doing that? I don't know what they would be The
least welcoming places in the country. So I want to
talk about tonight if you want to some comment on that.
Where have you moved to it? It was terrible, no one
would talk to you. I think people don't mind people

(45:03):
moving from Auckland. I don't mind just going on and
how much about how much they sold their house for.
I think people find that a bit dreary. Marcus Ausham
show love listening to you. My name is Debbie Fannada.
Is that place of cold, unwelcoming helly unkind My car
was stolen, full of my life, pecked to the broom
on a side street while I was transitioning into women's refuge.

(45:24):
I couldn't wait to get out of that place full
of poverly but beautiful neighboring beaches. Todd On it his home,
most unwelcoming place in New Zealand, Lotton Point. I think
that's right at the top of East Cape. So we
are talking about the most unwelcoming place in New Zealand.
Someone says Australia, someone says Fielding, someone says Hamilton, get

(45:46):
in touch. You want to mention anything about that unwelcome, unwelcoming, unwelcomingness.
We have moved ahead to move away because no one
would talk to you. Yes, be in touch if you
want to be if you want to partake. It's also
a year since the flag referendum. Keir Starmer's holding a
meeting of Cobra. What a great name Cobra is. That's

(46:10):
their sign of secret sort of emergency committee. They're going
to discuss the economic fall out of the Iran war
on the British people amid the threat of higher inflation. Yeah,
that's happening. Who A lot of people have said, Fielding,
but get in touch to you on a talk eighteen

(46:31):
past nine. A lot of texts will get to the text,
Marcus Tongue in cheeen advantage of rising petrol costs. It
should down, slow down or even reduce the crime rate.
I think they're talking about drive bys, but I think
they're stolen cars, aren't they, Marcus. The crisis not caused
by the conflict of the run. It's caused by the
Netanyahu and Trump attecking are run. It's not a conflict,
it's a war. Can we have some honest clarity? I

(46:55):
don't think the fewer companies really explained very well. While
we are paying the prices, why the prices go up immediately?
When there's a leg of fifty days in the shipping.
I mean they say it's legal. I've never seen it
or heard it explain that. Well, so that might be something.
What I mention, I was reading a little bit about
helium today, because the helium always used to be mined

(47:16):
in Lubbock, Texas and Amarillo. I can't work at how
you could mine it because it must just be under
the ground, but as soon as you mustep into it,
it must rise up. And think of a reading about
that now, Jennifer, Jennifer's Marcus.

Speaker 11 (47:29):
Welcome, Hi Marcus, how are you good?

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Thank you, Jennifer.

Speaker 26 (47:34):
I've watched a program called The Plastic Detox on Netflix.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Do we do how do we do that?

Speaker 27 (47:43):
Madam?

Speaker 2 (47:44):
How do we detox from plastic?

Speaker 26 (47:46):
Well, you don't have anything with plastic in it. They
didn't experiment of six couples trying to conceive cut back
on plastics in this documentary so terrifying. You want to
change your life.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Immediately trying to conceive. Yes, was it the microplastics stopping them?

Speaker 21 (48:08):
That's right?

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Was it the sperm or the uterus? What was it doing?

Speaker 26 (48:14):
I don't well, the thing is that they had so
much plastic in their bodies that it affected. I don't
know whether it's affected the woman, but they did this
experiment on six different couples and it says it's like

(48:37):
you are what you eat, but also what you wear,
and of course even in your toothbrush.

Speaker 18 (48:44):
Yes, it's one, it's.

Speaker 26 (48:46):
One our thirty two minutes. But the plastic is quite
terrifying what it can do to you.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Yeah, I believe that. I believe that is the great
new fear as microplastics. And then I say, we have
a credit cataplastics every every week or something. We're eating
a lot of it.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 26 (49:04):
And the thing is that they goes on your skin,
and the skin's the biggest part of your body, and
anything that's got polyurothine in it that goes onto your
skin and if you put it back into the earth

(49:28):
to get rid of it, it takes a couple of
hundred years to break down, whereas if you're wearing silk
or linen, anything natural skin, it doesn't affect it. But
we honestly just don't know all the damage that plastic

(49:49):
has been doing to people who, as a friend of
mine says, well, we've been using plastics in the last
fifty years though we're doomed.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Oh yeah, I think that. Yeah, and also too that
those plastic coatings of stuff too. But nice to talk,
thanks Jennifer. We talk about unwelcome places. It's not so
much unfriendlyous in a place, but more about difficulty try
to break into the workforce and finding out what makes
the place tick, so to speak. This is going to

(50:18):
be a very controversial statement, but although the Coasters have
a reputation have been sold of the earth, they are
not very welcoming of newcomers. I moved to Hoka tiker
a few years back. I surprised to learn how judgmental
and gossipy they are. I won't leave, though I love
the place. Moved to Totonga from Palmes to North last
a year and a half was gone two million titled
people up there. We live at Foxton Beach, not free,

(50:39):
welcoming and fair. Has become a dumping ground for rubbish
at the river mouth. So we are locating to relocated
to central Otago. Clyde to Us is very welcoming and
beautiful from Suzi, although it is a retirement village one
hundred percent fifty yang at very unwelcoming cure Marcus and Millwater.

(51:00):
We think about the positive of The most welcoming place,
believe it or not, is Milwater regards merve of Millwater.
Unwelcome town is Cartanta, a translate to eat people that
do not like outsiders. Far North, the most unwelcoming moved
to Hamilton ten years ago. The most friendly place depends
on chance encounters. Havelock North is very unwelcoming and snooty

(51:26):
in you were born in the Hawk's Bay, Robin Marcus,
I second Nelson as unwelcoming. Even I left and I'm
from here. Really hard to connect. People have restuck in
their own social group's real lonely place to be. Na
Fog City is the most unwelcoming place. Hamilton is what's

(51:48):
that emoji? Say Dan? It's not a good emoji? Is
he'd be the most unwelcoming place we've ever lived is
here in Blackball. The most unwelcoming place is THEMX five
clubs snobby and clicky. You know that much reason to
be snobbying on MX five? Would you not a delaurean, Greg?

(52:11):
It's Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 24 (52:14):
God evening, Marcus, How are you mate?

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Good? Thank you?

Speaker 7 (52:16):
Greg?

Speaker 28 (52:18):
Yeah? So that.

Speaker 24 (52:19):
I just wanted to touch on a couple of little
points about oil and why why this is mattering so
much with the twenty.

Speaker 11 (52:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (52:29):
So there's one thing is they're producing a type of
oil called light sweet, which is easier to refine than
the more common type, which is sour, and it's more vicid,
more thicker, so it needs less refining and a lot
of the other oil was so this is a more

(52:51):
valued type of oil, so therefore has a bigger impact
on the market then that the numbers would suggest. And
as other people have quite rightly pointed out, there's also
the fertilizer, which is a big, big issue because they
produce a lot around that area of the world.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Sure, yeah, I mean I think, I think if you
follow it, it is a very big deal. The twenty perceded,
and you can tell that by by how how upset everyone.

Speaker 24 (53:21):
Is, yes indeed, or how upset Trump.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Is and things gone in a way they didn't think
they were going to go.

Speaker 24 (53:29):
He's been taken aback completely, and he had, you know,
he had some other naive notion of where it would go.

Speaker 21 (53:35):
Basically, Yeah, yeah, well, I mean that's truck.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Yeah, I mean, I think the I think all the
war gamers for years have known exactly the way it
was going to go. But yeah, I'm hearing you. Thank
you Greg. Keep it going to and the most unwelcome
places to live eight hundred two detects if you want
to come and be a part of it, No more report?
Have you got any more reports on that fire? If

(54:04):
you got any more information about that, nice to hear
from you, So you get in touch eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty and nine to nine to text anything
else you want to mention, get involved with good the
least welcoming place to move to in New Zealand and
what makes it unwelcoming? Yeah, a lot of talk back,

(54:24):
a lot of texts about that. I'll get to those.
You got some input to make about that, feel free
to text through. We'll make a list. But welcome if
you want to talk. As I say, texts Cambridge very
unfriendly place to live, been here fifteen years, very lonely, Sam.

(54:44):
The Indian car system is nothing on christ ju Just
before you are gay, black skinned and from Auckland. Lasted
three and a half months in christ Church, never again
full of flatlanders and more than its sheer fear of crazy.
The most welcoming place in New Zealand is way we
mutter everyone is friendly and equal. That doco says the

(55:04):
average person the wisdom is a teaspoon of plastic in
their brain. But yes, we're talking about unfriendly place if
you want to talk, Marcus, I work in the rubbish
industry and going to the tip of that's amazing how
much rubbish, plastic and recyclable stuff gets dumped. This is
why the dumps fill up so fast. Put it on
a landfill of dud to close in twenty thirty. Back
in the day, way Hiki Island used to be the

(55:25):
most welcoming. Now with all the rich openers building homes
I mentioned, it's become very unwelcoming. Sandy. Good on your Sandy, Ken,
it's Marcus.

Speaker 16 (55:32):
Welcome, Yeah good, Marcus.

Speaker 21 (55:34):
Hey you doing good?

Speaker 7 (55:35):
Ken?

Speaker 16 (55:36):
Yeah good. I had to get this off from a chest.
A couple of years ago, the Life and I did
a cruise around New Zealand and the Diamond and the
Bloody Ring was going to Akara. Well I couldn't wait
to get there to have some blue cord, you know.
So when the cruise ship arrived in Achara on this trip,

(56:00):
I couldn't buy any anywhere. I thought this a stranger,
even on the wharf. When we burst at the wharf
caravan there selling fish and chips had a blackboard up
short written fresh blue cord and all that. Jesus, I
don't have to go too far to get this blue card.
And I said, no, I know we've sold out, mate.
I said, well we'd better scub the board off, mate,

(56:20):
I said, people will be pouring off this ship in
a minute. He said that you want it hard to
get in. It's pretty poppuly and I said, well, well that's
why I'm here, and we'll walk the whole town and
kept we saw the whole time. We walked for about
two hours looking for a place to get some blue cod.
Couldn't get any and no one wanted to talk to

(56:41):
us nothing. So in the end we settled for some
travallion and fish and ships at the shop somewhere, and
that cost us seventy five bucks for that, And I said, well,
I couldn't wait to get out of the place. It's disappointing.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Wow, I've always hit a bit of a Yeah, I've
always had some interesting times at a corolla.

Speaker 16 (57:04):
Yeah, well, I thought so I was really looking forward
to it because good reputation, you know, and the fish
of course say no more about blue cod, and no,
they didn't want to sell us anyhow. I think it
was they kept offering as something else, some sort of
catteris or something.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Yeah, out of Vietnam shade. They're just done in thee.
Is there a fishing fleet working out of Ekroa?

Speaker 16 (57:30):
I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 10 (57:31):
What do you put?

Speaker 22 (57:32):
No?

Speaker 28 (57:32):
Hang on? Hang on?

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Is there a fishing fleet working out of there? Why
did you expect they'd be cod?

Speaker 11 (57:37):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (57:37):
I just I've heard it and listening to you so
often and other shows and Earth as always, and we've
done a bit of fishing ourselves over there down the sounds,
you know. But it was most unwelcoming place they ever been.
And I've done a bit of traveling.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Okay, we'll hear me about. I think they got hard
time because all the ships from Middleton went into Ekiroa
because there was no birthing, and it got a bit overwhelmed, techa,
they called it. But yeah, yeah, yeah, Jamie Marcus welcome.

Speaker 29 (58:09):
Yeah, hey Marcus, Yeah, I just just heard on your
news they're the government going to subsidize families and stuff
for to purchase fuel to get your families to score.
It's kind of kind of counterproductive to what's needed right now.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Hang on, what was what did they say on the news?

Speaker 29 (58:26):
The government looking at giving.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
They're looking at it. They haven't said that this announcement tomorrow,
they said it will be the It will be Lauren
and working people that will get the benefits. I think
that was the announcement, wasn't it.

Speaker 29 (58:38):
Well, what do you think the outcoming? Like, what is
the end goal for that that move? So we continue
purchasing fuel.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Oh, there will be a there will be disruptions because
the war on people's cost of living will be affected.
It will be a temporary it will be a temporary reprieve,
I would imagine, and that whether that be taking the
GST or fuel or something like that, it would just
be to ease people through these tough times.

Speaker 29 (58:58):
That would be my Take't wouldn't the smarter move be
try to conserve fuel?

Speaker 20 (59:03):
Not think probably?

Speaker 2 (59:07):
I think probably it would be.

Speaker 10 (59:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 29 (59:08):
I just noticed that there's a couple of countries that
are having homeschooling their kids, so stopping their kids are
going to school just for the amount of petrol that
it consumes going to school.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Who's doing homeschooling? Do you know?

Speaker 29 (59:19):
Oh, I can't remember the country, Sorry about that, but
you know two countries I know if that are doing that,
then other countries I see one government is slashing the
pay of some of the around government employees by twenty
percent and forcing them to stay home. So I mean
there's other countries is doing a lot more than subsidizing
fuel so we can keep living a life that clearly

(59:41):
and probably two days time is going to change quite
a long Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Yeah, I don't know what the announcement is going to be,
but I don't think it's going to be I think
it's going to be underwhelming.

Speaker 29 (59:52):
It's going to be something that stops us by burning
fuel surely, Like you can't just subsidize fuel and make
everyone feel good and pretend like life's the same. I mean,
in two days time, depending on what Trump does, I mean,
the world could be a different place. You're saying before
twenty percent of fuels disrupted war. You know, in two
days time, if Trump carries on with his player, it'll
be a lot more than twenty percent.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Okay, Jamie, thank you. Hi Peter at Smarcus. Good evening
and welcome.

Speaker 28 (01:00:17):
Thank you well.

Speaker 25 (01:00:18):
I haven't heard many people in the West stand up
to the US condone US and Israel's actions. And if
the people in the West don't want to follow the
path to oblivion i economic collapse with the price of fuel,
I would have thought they would change their tune because

(01:00:42):
Iran is letting, you know, ships go to Japan occasionally
at least one Malaysia, India, Pakistan, so it's not completely blocked.
But for the West to be silent when genocide no
woman and children are being committed and alleged war crimes
with the war guy and Pete headset killing aldren at

(01:01:07):
a school, and that's because apparently they didn't do their
have all their checkers checks, you know for targets and stuff.
But you know, it's just an etceteraal and you know,
to go back to the Stone Age of piracy of
disease and all this sort of stuff. So I believe
our Prime minister, along with the other Western countries following

(01:01:30):
the US, are very reguartless.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
I think all the countries refuse to support Trump when
he asks for people to police the straight of hormos.
I thought they were I thought that was quite resounding.
How they said, no, we're not going to do that.
I thought that a lot of the other countries have
been quite.

Speaker 8 (01:01:50):
Well.

Speaker 25 (01:01:50):
If I was the Prime Minister of Britain, I said, well,
mister Trump, you've said that you've won. You've obliterated everything.
You can do it all by yourself. You're the winner.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
He said a lot of different things. Peter, I'm going
to move on, but thank you. I've got a lot
of texts about the worst place to live as a
friendliness goes. We're also talking fuel. That's the forever topic.
The unfriendliest place to go. Christ Church has to be
the most unfriendly places if you open over business and
are busy or fully booked and kind of comment or

(01:02:20):
fit them, and they always say, do you know what
boat I am from? As I feel they're entitled to
a better service and priority. Graytown ghastly residence, so snooty
moved away after a year. Is Sumna a friendly place
or come through as unfriendly? Please? Well, I've always had
a mixed time at Sumner. Got quite strong views on

(01:02:40):
Sumner Marcus. I'm getting this off my chest. I can't
understand why Fielding has so many naysayers. There is a
sign on the roadside, probably proudly saying Fielding was voted
the country's best town fourteen times running. Nelson is my hometown.
I never realized how unfriendly the people worked. I lived
away for thirty years and came home to find very
clique groups not welcoming. Can understand it myself, as I've

(01:03:02):
never brought up to be rude. Even out walking people
refuse used to acknowledge you, but very few times they
spoke to me re disappointing. My hometown has a reputation
now Nelson is the most unwelcoming place, especially the North Islanders.
The worst people. Those born and bred there and had
never left Nelson. Moved from Hablock North to Gisborne for

(01:03:23):
job promotion, wouldn't live there for the past forty months.
Very unfriendly initiated their all your life. Have just moved
to Tasman found them very welcoming. Hi, Marcus, I also
agree Nelson is quite unwelcoming. Lived there for a year
in front of very hard to make friends if you
weren't from the area. They didn't want to know your
beautiful place of beautiful culture, but the people made it

(01:03:44):
hard to live they've restuck in their ways. Also lived
on the coast and once you get past there straight
to the point of views on life and embrace it
found them quite friendly. Marcus Pahire Tour lived there for
a few months. Very clique people. If you're not a local,
you're not welcome. Click click click click click click click
people welcoming towns and unwelcoming towns. Brilliant. Why has Diesel

(01:04:10):
risen by sixty five more than ninety one petrol Commerce
Commission turning a Brian eye making a public transport free
would say fuel roading and car parking pressure. Luxembourg did
this in brilliantly. To live in holker TICKI have to
be in the repertory, plays and play board games. They
tell you repeatedly they do not watch TV. Not for me.

(01:04:31):
Move to the need and been here five years now.
Friendliest place ever being the people always have time for
a chat. Coming from Auckland, you're left to slow down
and take your time to be actively friendly. The furthest
south you go, the more it gets like that. Ha
ha hi jan.

Speaker 27 (01:04:49):
Hello ma, I'm really a standard at all these negative
it's negative feedback of unfriendly people.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Well, I did ask them what was you? And well,
if i'd ask, I did ask what the I didn't
ask them what the most welcoming place. I asked them
what the least welcoming place was.

Speaker 27 (01:05:09):
Yeah, I'm surprised there's so many of them. And New
Zealand used to be a very friendly place and.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Probably still is. Just not Nelson.

Speaker 27 (01:05:23):
And people, No, they don't. New people come here and
then they leave again.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
Oh really is it? Is it not welcoming?

Speaker 27 (01:05:34):
They get snobbed out?

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Really?

Speaker 27 (01:05:36):
And yeah, I've been here for since the thirteenth year
and have.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Any reason to be snobby there?

Speaker 27 (01:05:45):
Yeah? College, Hey, my son goes to colleague.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
That's a school on its last leagues, isn't it. It's
kind of like it's done. It's dash. Really, Well, what's
the role? There's only a couple of hundred there. It
just seems like a time, of course, you got to
to to to pay you away to make it financially viable.

Speaker 27 (01:06:10):
Well, I think in small places there's a lot of gossips.
Gossip is usually wrong, and you get one person heaven,
getting an impression of somebody and they form some sort
of click and gossip spreads and before you know, no
one wants to know you, and what's completely shunned.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
What's worse is people, as people phrase gossip is concerned.
That's the worst thing they make out. They're trying to
sort of they're saying it because they're concerned for someone.
So gossip sort of masquerading as concerned as the worst.

Speaker 27 (01:06:46):
It's just anti Christian in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Christian stuff. Have you been the subject of gossip?

Speaker 21 (01:06:53):
Jen?

Speaker 6 (01:06:54):
Oh?

Speaker 27 (01:06:54):
Hell yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
What do they say about you?

Speaker 30 (01:06:57):
Oh?

Speaker 27 (01:06:57):
Well, just the usual. I don't know, I haven't heard it,
but you know, you getting shunned.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
You're not a marriage You're not a marriage break or anything, though,
are you?

Speaker 27 (01:07:07):
I went to the sixty plus club for two years
and not one person would talk to me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Oh that's heartbreaking, Jan two years.

Speaker 27 (01:07:20):
So I try and try and grow up to people
and talk to them, and they just walk away and
turn your back on me. They wouldn't talk. But there
is the other side of the corn coin market.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
You must love me because I've got to talk to you.

Speaker 27 (01:07:37):
Yeah, unfortunately from time to time.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Anyway, the other side of the.

Speaker 27 (01:07:42):
Coin Yeah, it's the local ewe. The Maori people are
extremely friendly and if I need help of any kind,
if I'm sitting on my own, they'll come and sit
next to me. They're extremely friendly the other extreme. So

(01:08:02):
that's a surprise to me because I've never experienced that
anywhere else in New Zealand, and I've lived in a
lot of places. So that's strange, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
No, I think I think that's probably exactly what you'd expect.

Speaker 27 (01:08:19):
But yeah, and I'm white, you'd pick the opposite. But no,
so nice to me, and of course I'm nice to them.
And I think also there tends to be a spirit
over a place like this place has a spirit of falsehood,

(01:08:39):
and when you get there you find everyone tells lies,
all lying, and I pick it up immediately. And once
they lie to me, that's says cor That's just my
little input market.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
I can't believe the O six. I can't believe that. Well, no, Jane,
I mean, Jep is creeper. I mean, after your experience
at the Other sixty club, how can I ever not
talk to you?

Speaker 27 (01:09:02):
Oh William sweet?

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Yeah, really sweet?

Speaker 27 (01:09:06):
A nice man? Yeah, yeah, it was all kinds of WEIRDO.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Oh, I'm pleased you found your place with your people
that have been good to you too. Jen. Thank you
for that nine from ten.

Speaker 31 (01:09:20):
Hello Sue, Yeah, Hello Marcus. My sister heard you're putting
a recipe over with the jolis the other night that
you cooked the skins and made like a circle jam
or something. Well, how was it done?

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
I just thought it was equal equal amounts of the
skin and sugar. Yes, and you cooked that up?

Speaker 31 (01:09:48):
Yeah? But yeah, did someone give it to you?

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
I've had it for years, I've used it.

Speaker 27 (01:09:57):
So is it a gem or it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
A jelly, but it's sweet and it goes a pink color,
which is weird.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
Okay, I think of water too.

Speaker 19 (01:10:08):
You'd have to, Yeah, it says there at I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Just looking online. Full of pot with skins. Add water
enough to not quite cover them. Boil gently throughout fifteen minutes.
Strain the liquid and then measure the liquid and add
a cup of sugar for every cup of liquid so
it's the same sugar as liquid. And bring to the boil,
add sugar and stirintal dissolved. The car will start to change.
The longer you boil it, the deeper red it'll go.

(01:10:31):
And you test it, you know, like you put it
in a source of its seat. You're good to go,
and you put in sterilized pots and seal. It's really good.
It's very straightforward and very good, very good.

Speaker 30 (01:10:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 31 (01:10:43):
Okay, so you said you bail of skins with sugar,
so you're putting two lots of sugar.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Then no, I'll just fill of pot with skins.

Speaker 30 (01:10:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
There's a lot of different view I've just quickly googled it, right,
but there's a lot different a lot of different ways
to it. One this is one of just the first
one that came up, said you fill of pot with skins,
add water to not quite cover them, and boil gently
throughout fifteen minutes, and then leave to sit for half
an hour or seven hours. Then you strain the liquid
off and then you put equal amounts to that liquid
with the with the sugar. But a lot of variations.

Speaker 31 (01:11:16):
So you don't put any of the flesh.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
Because you've eaten the flesh.

Speaker 30 (01:11:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 31 (01:11:23):
Got lots of how many trees have you got?

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
I've got a lot. But they haven't got a locked
down south. Oh okay, they grow here because actually in Peru, Brazil,
they used to grow an altitudes. They don't mind a
cold climate.

Speaker 31 (01:11:38):
But mm hmm, we've got there really early this year.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Yeah, well everything's early. Yeah, yeah, looking, I'm looking at
another recipe here.

Speaker 31 (01:11:49):
That's so you've just gone online and sound one.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
We've always done it because I used to live up
there in Auckland. We had a lot of feets and
did it often.

Speaker 29 (01:11:58):
Oh we've got.

Speaker 31 (01:12:00):
Where I love Intarctica.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Oh wow, oy, yeah, what a gorgeous place that is.
We had our some of there. We loved it.

Speaker 31 (01:12:07):
I heard you on the radio.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Yeah, we love it. We stayed up at the top at.

Speaker 31 (01:12:15):
Were you at Collingwood at Cood Collingwood or pack War
somewhere up the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Collingwood we're heading back. Loved it.

Speaker 31 (01:12:21):
Oh yeah, yes, it's nice. Yeah. We're heading to Prouch
Noise for a week on Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
It's not far to go, is it. No, not for us.
There's a figo a jelly recipe. I've only got a
minute left. I just want to read this to you
because it's like a more, better, better worked out one. Yeah,
and it says one and a half kilograms Fiji water
to cover wash the fiju, a cutaway spoiled skin and
the flour in the case there's bugs there, chop into

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small chunks, cover with water, brings slowly to the boil.
Reduce heat somemer for an hour. Pour the stewed fruit
into a muslin bag, suspend over a clean bowl, and
drained for several hours. Don't squeeze it, just let it
drip out.

Speaker 31 (01:13:06):
Oh that's like crab apple jown.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Yeah, you're onto it. Take the syrup and measure out.
Calculate the sugar based on that says three quarters of
a cup for one cup, which I used to do
one to one, but that's probably fine. Add both to
a clean saucepan, stirring well, cook over medium heat. Once
the sugar is dissolved, raised to a rapid boil until
setting point. You'll see the color change from a tempered
pear juice color to a golden syrup ruby pink. You

(01:13:30):
know it when you see it transform before your eyes.
It may take sixty minutes or so. You'll start to
see scum up here on the top. Scoop that off.
You don't want that in your bottle. Setting point is
reached when the syrup is thick enough to pour from
a teaspoon, but the last dollops can jeal into a
more serpy texture. Take off the heat, remove the last
of the scum and put into sterilized jars. That's it, Hi, Marcus.

(01:13:54):
Christ Church is not a frelcoming place. The people think
they are the center of the universe. Just as I
was writing to you, I got a reply to my
tweet about pack and Save Lincoln Road being packed with
shops today. I got ninety eight likes, two comments, so
I didn't have to look up the poster's location. One
said what a ridiculous post. There is no peck and
Save on Lincoln Road from Adam Matthews and christ Church.
The other rude one comedy that poor people shop there

(01:14:16):
and they are least informed. Then when I say that
Fresh Choice Berevale was normal with ritual, middle class white
people who think were their heads not viral clickbait snobbery
is a terrible thing, isn't it. I mean, that's the
worst anyway. We are talking about the country's least friendly
places to move. Wow, I don't understand what your text says.

(01:14:39):
Stephen Ah Marcus Arended reported that that the Government's going
to a rather importation of Australian standard fuel. That is
absolute lie. We were in Australia last week. Why announced
the release of low grade fuel conducting high levels of sulfur.
There was a sharp reaction for the motor trade because
the fuel is not good enough for engines, not good
enough the atmosphere. I believe that is the fuel we
will be receiving. Yeah, there's some confusion around that, and

(01:15:01):
I don't fully understand it. But I just think maybe
the government themselves don't fully understand that, because how could
they know. Good evening of Marcus. I live in Westport,
and having been born and bred and Wellington, lived in
Auckland and need and people in Westport are so care
and kind and ready to help in times of need.
Love it here, but ribus one of the way that
the West Coast generally herself and overlooked. Jan sounds like

(01:15:23):
a lovely person. She's right about Wang and every clique
and gossipy. I live in christ Church and nobody says
hello to me. I visited my brother in Delaware and
every day I'd walk around the neighborhood, never been waved
out to say hi. People would flag me down for
a chat. Marcus. Harwood is a very friendly place. It's
like nineteen seventies New Zealand, just brilliant. Marcus. Nothing so,
but wang and away. I've lived here seventy nine years.

(01:15:44):
I find people on the bus friendly, driver's friendly, shopkeepers friendly.
Did I find it friendly? Was our wang? And let
me have a think? Where'd I go? Where did I
find it friendly? We got told off by the bus
driver because he left early. The bus drive wasn't friendly
and where he was from. The bus driver around the

(01:16:04):
town was very friendly. Quite like the buses. It was
pretty good. Person the elevator was friendly. Went to the
dog racing. They were friendlish, well they went to the friendlish,
but they sort of you know, it was quite a
nice atmosphere. It wasn't bad. But you're different when you're tourists,
when you're on holiday, because you're kind of in a

(01:16:25):
more relaxed mut word for that relax throwing on a
bus with the kids. Now we're talking about the friendly
and unfriendly places in New Zealand we have moved to
and have to go away from because it was just
such hard work getting to know anyone. But I don't
mind if placed being unfriendly because I'm quite self contained.
Although I get this right. I was at home today

(01:16:46):
and I was just getting ready for Denny was just
about to come home. From school and there was a
knock at the front door and it was a guy
at the front door. Oh, I don't know, And he said,
you know that night on your show you had, you
know that night on your show? You know that night
you did you know that night on your show when

(01:17:08):
you talked about shingles. He says, no one rang up.
Now he said, why did no one ring up and
not talk about acupuncture? And I'm thinking, well, for a start,
we're not censoring the calls, we're not canceling calls about acupuncture.

(01:17:28):
But more importantly, it's a radio show. It's a phone
and show you they had your phone in you don't
leave it two months And I'm gonna get around his
house and knock on his door. Then I got that
situation where he's on a doorstep and he's made of
the effort to come to the doorstep and knocks. I think, oh, well,
you know, I know, these people like you gotta kind

(01:17:48):
of you gotta kind of run them down. You got
to kind of hear everything they got to say because
they will be slightly nervous. But boy, oh boy, he said,
I've got the ecupacturress's card. She said, Nelson she's very good.
Here's been about five minutes fin the ecupacture's car. I said,
we I'm not gonna have a Nelson for I've got
nothing wrong with me. I haven't got shingles. Was a
very complicated, a very awkward discussion, but Fancy just turning

(01:18:11):
up on the doorstep. We wanted to continue a talk
back conversation. You gotta round to the door because I thought, well,
something might have happened. I mean, I don't I thought
there might have been something that you know, I don't
know what it was going to be about, but you
just see on the door knocking anyway, So there you go.
That's then. And he gave me I'm not gonna take

(01:18:32):
your business card. I'll take a photo of it. Whether
we sort of go come back and ask about the
where's the business card? So if you've got a great
if you want a great acupuncturist for shingles, and deneed
it in Nelson, if you can get over the unfriendliness.
I don't think he had seen a Bonnie Barrow, old
Bonnie Barrow. So that was my that was the height

(01:18:54):
of my day. Fancy continuing talk back at home, Marcus
having been deliberate the outcasts for forty years. The longer
I stay, the more extreme the accusations and frequent the harassment.
It seems they don't want to contemplate that I feel
fortunate to have nothing to do with them, and raising
above them, and rising above them is no effort way hecky,

(01:19:14):
The bigger place you go to and the more you
try to talk to people, the more they think you
are strange. Big places are all unfriendly. Christ Church is
bad though I am a new bea to Masterton. The
people are free, friendly and accepting of incomers. There you go.
So we are talking about the friendliest and least friendly
places in New Zealand. I guess you get what you're

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sow anyway, Get in touch Marcus till twelve the friendly
and the unfriendliest place you've been to? Yeah, get in
touch Hettel twelve fifteen past ten, Halloise, This is Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 10 (01:19:51):
Ah, Hi Marcus, how are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
Louise?

Speaker 19 (01:19:55):
Okay, I'll start the unfriendly and end with a friendly.
The most unfriendly place I've moved around New Zealand a lot,
and the most friendly was a little place called Glenn
Massey right in the heart.

Speaker 7 (01:20:10):
Of the White Kato.

Speaker 20 (01:20:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:20:13):
Yeah, it's very strange, very quicky.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Would that be a small town you're blowing, you're blow
in the early days, you're not going to reck. How
many people there? One hundred?

Speaker 7 (01:20:22):
Oh, be lucky.

Speaker 19 (01:20:23):
It was that when this was back in the early eighties. Anyway,
So was there a part, No, there was the church goers,
I think so it was probably why Yeah, no, there
was nothing there really, but anyway, old tacky. It was
friendly on the surface. I was there five years. I

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moved and out of there in twenty twenty, but I
have no friends there. I joined the Bridge Club, I
joined this club, that club, and just didn't you know,
didn't sit in and moved to Foxton.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
Beach and or take the beature in the town.

Speaker 19 (01:21:08):
At the beach.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Okay, yeah, I've got good friends of the town. We've
had some great stays there. We've had a real fantastic
type but they've always been lovely people that anyway.

Speaker 19 (01:21:18):
Yeah, yeah, Well I moved Foxton Beach in twenty twenty
and the total opposite.

Speaker 7 (01:21:25):
Okay, I've got.

Speaker 19 (01:21:27):
Friendly yeah no, no, no, no, very friendly, very supportive.
It's one stage I needed a gutter cleaned out and
I didn't have any money, and so this guy did
it for free, and I gave him a couple of
my paintings. And you know that you put anything on

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the fox and page and people just rally around you.
It's amazing. When we had that storm recently and the
top my chimney blow off, one went one way and
the other but went the other way, and I put
an add on it was because it was going to rain,

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and I.

Speaker 7 (01:22:11):
Thought, oh no, yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:22:14):
And a guy came round, a guy who's extremely busy,
and fixed it up and didn't charge me. The only
exception as the Over Sixties club, like jen so unfriendly

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over sixties. It probably should have been renamed Over eighties.
Maybe I thought I was too young or something. I
don't know, but yeah, same. I went once and thought, nah, no,
not coming here if you're not going to greet me
with some sort of friendliness is said of staring.

Speaker 7 (01:22:54):
I'm not going to bother.

Speaker 19 (01:22:56):
I know it's strange, but everywhere else in this town
is amazing. With a brilliant shuttle service, we walked down
the street, people smile and say hello. You know, it's
it's great, love, it funny.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
It's so different from the beach up the road.

Speaker 7 (01:23:12):
Eh.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
Yes, yes, I'm over sixty, but I've got no desire
to join in over sixties club. That sounds like that
sounds like I think a terrible thing for me to do.

Speaker 19 (01:23:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wouldn't recommend it at all, definitely not.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
I think I'll give that when I passed. So it's
good to know those towns will stay away from what
was it called Glenn White, Glenn Messy.

Speaker 19 (01:23:38):
Glenn, Yeah, Glenn Messy.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
Yeah, appreciate that. Louise Dave.

Speaker 18 (01:23:43):
Here, I am Marcus good Dave. I'd never come knocking
on your door unless I was.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
Wasn't It wasn't what I expected. See, I've brought my
work home with me.

Speaker 18 (01:23:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 28 (01:24:00):
And was he from Nelson?

Speaker 18 (01:24:01):
That was my next question? Was he from Nelson? Did
you say and that caupuncturists.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
An ecupuncture speed come to talk about ecupuncture? Because because
I think, what's a phone and show? It's not a
come round show?

Speaker 18 (01:24:14):
Yeah, come and put you to by Worth.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
And I'm not really I'm not really interested in singles
in the real I haven't got singles.

Speaker 18 (01:24:23):
You for that? Yeah, yeah, but no, you're quite I
think you're quite. Safety markets not but I'd even ask
where you were, where lived the general area. That's good
enough for me, exactly now. Goodness me, I would get
onto New Brighton people. I think we are very friendly
here in New Brighton. I walked to the hop Poles

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today from Bridge Street along the sand dunes. I came
across five people, and all of them pretty much that
made eye contact, and most of them were walking dogs.
I wasn't. I just had me bum bag on and
I was walking to the hopples. But they all said
get a and we just went there. You know, one
went one way and one I went the other. Eye
hell was on a mission to get there by five

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early with me walking. Well, well, I've got a wooden
stick you know that I carry just in case after
these dog attacks. That's the reason I carry it. And
I find people in bright and brightened. People were down
to earth and friendly.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
I've never met anyone more friendly in christ Church than
those hot poles. Everyone was up for a chat there.
They were brilliant. That's been the most welcoming place in
christ Church.

Speaker 18 (01:25:28):
And we solve all the problems of the world in
the sauna or the steam room generally. You know, we
saw that one or the other. How's the Warrior is
Jet Cleary? I must be put a mention in there.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
Jick Cleary has Jick Cleary is not on because the
other guy was so really good.

Speaker 18 (01:25:44):
Jack Cleary played on against Newcastle.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
Yeah, but that other young guy that got is tremendous.

Speaker 5 (01:25:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:25:50):
I don't know. I'm just going to put me. The
Jets are going to be a fine for the season,
you'll find, and the Warriors are going to go a
long way. They're looking good apart from ball retention, the
carry and the drop seas, the buttery fingers on both sides.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
Don't hang on, hang on you did you watch the match?

Speaker 18 (01:26:09):
I watched Newcastle? Yeah, Newcastle Warriors.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
I thought it was extraordinary. Luke Hanson's the new guy
now in all the history of the n r L. Right,
this is the third best start for a team ever.

Speaker 18 (01:26:30):
I know they're looking good and Ivan Cleary was in
the what in the stands watching? I did notice? Can
we keep him? Can we keep hold of him?

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
I don't, but he's did Did Jeck Cleary play well
in the and the and the barter couple whatever it's called?

Speaker 18 (01:26:48):
Well, yeah, but I think he's if we Warriors can
keep hold of him. He's going to be a fine
and he's going to be a great leader for the
Backs and a great kicker. You make my words, We're
going to go a long way. I'm not saying this
is our.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
Year, but I think it is our year.

Speaker 18 (01:27:06):
Whether you go, you said it should. I mention Simon
Simon Reeve Scandinavia and Simon Reeve. I enjoyed it in.

Speaker 20 (01:27:13):
Norway, the Oyl Royal Wealth in Norway.

Speaker 18 (01:27:16):
Fantastic series Scandinavia with Simon Reeve. Worth watching. He's a
Pommy English presenter fellow who's gone around Scandinavia at the
moment and Norway.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
What's the theme.

Speaker 18 (01:27:29):
Scandinavia The companies icelim Norway, Finland. Very interesting just for
the high level of standard of living in Norway. Sovereign
Investment Fund's got trillions of dollars in it because the
government there invested their oil wealth that's all on petrochemicals, etc.

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Rather than squandering it. And the high level of sandal living.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
And I think they've got a lot of wind and
solar too, haven't they. They bought that, but they generated
a lot of their own hydro.

Speaker 18 (01:28:03):
And fish farming farming. The Norway coastline is the longest coastline,
second only to Canada.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
You lived anywhere else and you's in where it's been
unfriendly there?

Speaker 18 (01:28:16):
Well no, because I'm feeling going on the show friendly Nelson.
I like ree Walker, I like Mochueca. But I think
you only get what you put out, you know. I mean,
if you're going to get nose down, even here's a
snobby bee, well you're going to get that back. I

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think if you put yourself out and a smile and
a nod and you don't have to be over friendly,
I think you get it back.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
I think a year walking around with a stick.

Speaker 18 (01:28:46):
Well I am, and there's a big stick too, it's
about four foot long. But it's only for my own protection.
To understand, it's not for anything else. So these dogar
texts and what have you. Now, if you want to
know unfriendly, go to Perth, Western Australia, where the Aussies
are very much keep themselves very much. So I find
it's hard to make a friend in Australia.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
Nice to hear, Dave, thanks very much for that sixteen
twenty six hit or twelve You want to come through
most and less friendly places. Yeah, I think he watched
the New South Wales Cup, not the Worries. I think
he's got the wrong match fair enough, Thank good on him.
If I met that gentleman on Brighton Beach, you know,
the one who only had a bum bag on, I'd
make eye contact too. I know that's not what he meant,

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but I had a good giggle. The friendliest town I've
lived in a pilo of thirty one years.

Speaker 14 (01:29:33):
Here.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
I love it. Everyone is friendly, talked a strangers, smile, laughter,
the community always caring about everyone. I'm seventy nine. I'd
never want to live here. Love your program music keep
me coming at night. Thanks Jude and Pyde. Although was
that where the I better get this right, I better
get this right before I say anything. Yeah, it was

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where they took wut have been the friendliest town, But
it was where that the that pizza were that the
guy with his pizza restaurant was killed and they never
sold that one, did they that? Jordan Verduras, I'm twenty twelve,
So it's friendly, but it's not without it unsolved murders
the locals and target You are an honest and friendly

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go to the way to help apart from the summer
holiday time the local bottle store and it can leave
his shop without worrying about theft. Marcus moved to Nelson
three years ago from Auckland. Went to meet peoples asked
did I own or did I rent? And if I
had a man. I'm in my seventies, still laughing. Sad place.
Drivers worse than an Auckland Try living in rungy Aora
are dump People don't talk, Marcus Dunedin is a city

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of two halves, somewhat unfriendly. Neighbors stick to themselves and
friendships can be slot forming. But walk a lot and
over the years it's been impressed with the number of
strangers driving by who stop and ask if they can
drop me somewhere. I moved from Auckland to Marlboro a
couple of years ago. It's a hard place to crack
unless you have land. We left Wellington and moved to
Gore twenty five years ago. I love the place so

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friendly and welcoming. Moved away from South Are after twelve
years ago. Who have lasting friendships about Bronwyn brilliant. The
terrorists are always friendly in christ Jurche moved to Kaitaia
ten years ago. Most people are friendly. Strangers say hello,
there you go, there you go. I wonder if you
did watch the New South Wales cup old Dave. That's
all right as long as he enjoyed it. Twenty nine

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to eleven, Hello, Zech, this is Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 10 (01:31:27):
Hey then Marcus, what's going on? Thanks for answering my pleasure?

Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
What's your topic onzeck?

Speaker 10 (01:31:33):
Well hearing you guys speak earlier about the friendliest places.
I got a few things to share about New Zealand
before I leave tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
Oh god, how long you been here?

Speaker 10 (01:31:42):
Off and on for five years?

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
Okay?

Speaker 28 (01:31:44):
Game?

Speaker 18 (01:31:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:31:45):
March twenty twenty thinking I'd be here for ten days
and got stuck.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
Wow, that's fair. Where did you get stuck?

Speaker 10 (01:31:52):
Geraldine cheap.

Speaker 14 (01:31:57):
In need?

Speaker 22 (01:31:58):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:31:59):
What a story?

Speaker 10 (01:32:01):
Yeah man, I yeah. March eighth till eighteenth was the plan.
And March seventeenth came und and they said where do
you want to spend your two weeks to flatten the curve?
That was what they said back then, And I said, oh,
two more weeks. I'll just stay stay in New Zealand.
And then that turned into two years and met a
girl from Dunedin and aunt stuck around quite some time.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
But why, Geraldine, did you happen to be there for
a job or were staying there when the COVID hit?

Speaker 10 (01:32:26):
Good question. Yeah, there's an old backpackers there that was
used to be a maternity hospital called Rockety Backpackers. Yes,
and they took me in and I thought I was
going to be there with a bunch of other backpackers,
but it was just me and owners and we became
think as Steve's every every day together non stop for
you know, quite a while.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
What a great story.

Speaker 10 (01:32:46):
Oh it was good.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
We'd you meet the Dunedin girl? Was she at refitees
or no?

Speaker 9 (01:32:51):
No?

Speaker 28 (01:32:51):
I met her?

Speaker 10 (01:32:52):
Yeah, met her in christ Church. I was DJing actually
at a at an event and met her there and
we stayed together for five years.

Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
So brilliant, okay. And we have been the friendly places
gerald in obviously very.

Speaker 10 (01:33:06):
Much so, Geraldine, I say out to the Hooky Youanger.
I spend a good bit of time in the Hoky
Youanger and definitely felt like an outside pretty early on
because I, yeah, just it was very different from where
I'd grown up. And just wait a while, and then
a lot of friends, real quickly, good people.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
Great people, great place, beautiful, spectacular.

Speaker 10 (01:33:28):
Yeah, and I've actually been very surprised with Auckland. I
know people bag it, but I've certain pockets of town.
I've found people people want friends and if you give
them the time of day, they'll stop and their dinners
at their time, which I didn't expect.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
What happened good and what parts of Auckland was at Zeg.

Speaker 10 (01:33:46):
Parnell, Yep, a lot of good people in Parnell. I
found north Shore as well, my Rangey Bay. Good things
happened there. Further up Oria, Red Beach, that whole neck
of the woods.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
Oh yeah, no, I've spin to Oi went too. I mean, look, yeah,
I know all those suburbs well, but it's you yeah
good yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:34:05):
And were you hitting for our z the France in
the morning actually?

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
And will you will? Are you going to be dejaying there?

Speaker 10 (01:34:13):
Oh no no, well yeah, I'm more composing arranging now,
so out of the djang, more into the the realer stuff.

Speaker 21 (01:34:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
Well, don't be as strange as you stay in touch
with a ZAC when you're over there, because it's nice
to talk. Thank you for that, Geraldine, what a story.
Laurie Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 4 (01:34:30):
I'm Marcus. You know we're aalkland pretty well. If I
was to say, my son lives with what you call
a hop on the strip from Dingle Dell.

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
Yeah, and like St. Hell Is, Dingle Dell Reserve is
like an un as, like an undiscovered gym.

Speaker 21 (01:34:50):
Really it is.

Speaker 4 (01:34:53):
But I noticed when I go walking he lives up
Saint Hellya's Road a bit. And when I'm walking around
on the hills and the very streets, you know, so
around the Dell or preps, uh, yeah, people seem to
acknowledge your saying good morning and stuff like that. But
once you get down on the flat, you know, along
around the bays one there were all the I candy
is nobody. Yeah, they have virtually go there guys basically

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old skirt wandering along.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
What's funny? People running out. They're very self absorbed, the
runners as they run back and forward.

Speaker 4 (01:35:23):
Yeah. Yeah, well some of them are down there to
be seen too, I think. And I find around then
the rest of hell is it they seem to be,
you know, happy enough.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
Yeah, we've had Dingle, don't I don't know. I don't
even know who Dingle was.

Speaker 4 (01:35:41):
Oh, there's a there's a great signpost there apparently it
was a major effort that they had to do a
hell of training it rid of all sorts of it
was a rubbish.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
Here, I think, and I think probably an in my childhood,
there was a sense of discovery. We went there one
time when it was just about open. That would sort
of this new because the old man was onto the
local community committees and sort of chicking out parks and stuff,
and we did. Yeah, it did seem to be a
real discovery when we found that.

Speaker 4 (01:36:13):
Yeah, very pant spot. You can into it from all
sorts of streets and sort of wander through.

Speaker 30 (01:36:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:36:19):
No, it's there's a gym in a place where, you know,
high priority, a very expensive real estate around. Hey, the
son's been over there for a while now and they
originally had an old state house and only Hunger and
then they did it up and they ministered up raid

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and they.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
Live in the Auckland property dream.

Speaker 4 (01:36:45):
Yeah, down the walls along cross Lease, down the hill.
But it's yeah, a nice place. But yeah, that's great.
Really it works out, you know, and enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:57):
You would like the beaches took you'd like to be
away from the coast, don't you.

Speaker 4 (01:37:01):
No, no, no, no, no, I love a beach just over.
I look a good perme right now, but it's not
a bit far away. Actually, both my daughters they were
all in the surf club. You know, they all go
down tom Tana. They went through surf club and stuff
like that. Come in going to the beach all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:37:23):
But yeahs nor friendly, I suppose it is.

Speaker 4 (01:37:27):
Yeah, yeah, well I walk around most mornings and yeah,
they tell you what. People are certainly friendly. If you've
got to walking with a dog.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
Well that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:37:37):
Yeah, and a lot a lot of them want to
give it a pet. And it was it was particular
to read the dog's reading friendly itself.

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
Well, I have I have a dog that I have
occasionally and it's a hearing dog. Right, so it's got
a it's got a jacket on that says hearing dog
because it's worth when the owner is unwell or something
or as the way, I have to look after it.
And boy, oh boy, you get a hearing dog. And
because you can take it to soup, you can take
it anywhere. Yeah, and boy boy you can't go anywhere

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because everyone to stop and then they got to pat it.
Then they say the dog deaf. I say No, it's
not deaf to hearing dog.

Speaker 18 (01:38:13):
Are you deaf?

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
No, I'm not deaf. I'm looking after it. Well, that's
the whole day gone. It's having about five conversations like that.
It's a beautiful little dog though, but yeah, such a
nice breaker is.

Speaker 4 (01:38:25):
Well, it's funny a lot of other people walking dogs.
They seem to think that the dogs want to meet
and greet.

Speaker 2 (01:38:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:38:30):
One of the features of the peppy on poodle and
order Scott they they don't. It's they regard themselves as
a stiff above the ordinary dog and they don't don't
want to.

Speaker 2 (01:38:40):
Mingle and has only hung her upgrade got a dog?

Speaker 4 (01:38:45):
No you haven't.

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
No, you are you just walking through dingled down without
a dog?

Speaker 4 (01:38:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:38:50):
Oh that's fun because most people all can just walk
with dogs, don't they just they walk out into that
fast walk. You can't just slightly meand without a dog.
People that you're lurking with intent.

Speaker 4 (01:38:58):
Dear, Well, especially I hadn't because I myself, I hadn't
quite got my hill legs back all it well, last
time I was there. It's quite secrets and earliest part
of it wasn't as nimble as I could be.

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
You should be knocking out you should be knocking over
the cones, doing Mount Wellington and do all those. That's
when it gets going because of course Glover Parks a
volcanic cone. Have you been the Glover Park? I don't
think I just run by Ladies Bay or Kraka Bay
because it's quite it's quite interesting the volcans. Anyway, what
we're saying, have done your leg your watched the hell

(01:39:31):
Leagues end?

Speaker 4 (01:39:33):
Yeah, well, I funny when he when he was a
niney hanger, he was quite close to your one tree
hill and run down. Yeah, yeah, beautiful. Yeah, and that's
some fancy dogs walking around there people. But no, it's
it's it's it's a funny one.

Speaker 14 (01:39:50):
That's uh.

Speaker 4 (01:39:52):
Because impressions with towns, you just got to break the ice.
It's yeah, I know Nelson reasonly, well, I found it
really is really good and past. But yeah, it's just
so it seems to be a lot of people clocking
in there with with some bad experience.

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
We'll find out more. Laurie, thank you, nice to talk
twenty to eleven. Surely this is Marcus.

Speaker 32 (01:40:20):
Good evening, good evening, Marcus. Well, I feel very fortunate
because I have never lived in an unfriendly area. I've
lived in Upper Heart, Potty, rural Whitby, and now on
the Capity Coast, and everybody you walk past them, they smile,

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they say hi. Walk along the beach in the morning,
everybody says morning morning or good morning. Where I lived,
all the neighbors are beautiful people. And even the school
children going past stop say hi or give away or
you know, sometimes I say, Hi, what's none's favorite color?

(01:41:02):
And then I say, let's pick a flower and give
it to the kids, a player out of the garden.
But even going uptown shopping, people's smile, and you know,
even strangers to say hello, how are you?

Speaker 21 (01:41:16):
Lovely day?

Speaker 32 (01:41:18):
And I think I'm very fortunate.

Speaker 30 (01:41:19):
Really yeah, Well look, you.

Speaker 2 (01:41:22):
Know, want you're twnd to be too friendly. Otherwise everyone
talks to you the whole time. You don't get anything done.

Speaker 32 (01:41:27):
Hey, you've got to get them the time of day
because you never know when you're going to be on
your own.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
Very good point. So were you in now Krperty Coast?
That's right, a Carpitty Coast, Yes, brilliant, thank you for that.
Surely seventeen away from eleven Marcus till twelve gosh, we're
talking about the friendliest places you've lived in, the unfriendliest.
Marcus had to drive nap you wanted from return?

Speaker 30 (01:41:46):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
Stay bad time with gap price has got twelve point
five litters forty bucks and Palmeston tarranty and Celtics. Older guy.
They didn't know how much polita was I asked, made
no attempt to find out when I asked, sign outside unclear.
I was leaving my friends, and did you get eight
cents off peritta with a New World Colors head? No,
I didn't ask if I had one? Too late. I'm
normally a BP customer. How annoying. I emailed Celtics today, brilliant.

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Hello Nils as Marcus welcome.

Speaker 14 (01:42:16):
Oh hi, Yes, I'm just coming to ring it to
tell you that Nelson must be the most friendly place
I've ever lived in.

Speaker 2 (01:42:23):
Well, no one else sees that.

Speaker 21 (01:42:25):
Oh no.

Speaker 14 (01:42:26):
People just talk to you on the street. They're very
happy to tell you their problems and I'm happy to
tell their mine.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
What are your problems?

Speaker 28 (01:42:35):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (01:42:35):
Just you know, every day living and you know surviving
the battlefield. Wow, very friendly people here.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
How long you lived there?

Speaker 14 (01:42:47):
Well? I was brought up here. I stayed for about
nineteen years and then I lived in the North Island
and I came back about nineteen ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
Okay, so been about twenty five years.

Speaker 14 (01:43:03):
Yeah, very friendly people. You can't beat it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:09):
Okay, Well please to someone's come to the defense of Nelson. Thanks.
That's sixteen to eleven thirteen to eleven unfriendly places in
New Zealand to live. Yeah, and obviously I don't need
to go into bat for where I live because it's
a magical place and it's the perfect mix. So there

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we go. I've never lived in an invert cargo and
what that's like. But bluff double thumbs up value, triple
thumbs up in four thumbs up for a good weekend
and bluff for a good weekend. Bluff good weekend, had good.
Had a finals for the softball kids, both kids softball teams.

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That was great fun. Then the Multicultural Festival that was
an invert cargo that was good. Then we had the
track and field day. Country kids do well that don't they?
Country kids said, we've got it. The sprints Eastern South
and Northern Southend. They spent the weekend out of Maui,
which is the ag camp out that you can stay

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out from the between bluffin and sort of up the inlet.
A bit very good anyway, Marcus. The worst place I've
lived in was Palmeston and Otago. I lived there for
over fifteen years. If you weren't born and bred there,
they didn't want to know your reclicky bunch. There are
all people that work at the old at the mine,
I think I think all those people are at Palmerston

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are craze. Marcus. We've been told a number of pedal
stations over here on the West Coast have already run
out of petrol Mobile Graymouth, Kumara, Gogis Gogus number ninety
five and z gray or Challenge reefed In and our
employees are telling us we may be facing no work
in the fleet service mechanical industry. The anxiety is high.
Is this just Heresayer? Is the confirmation of this? Josh?

(01:45:01):
I don't know, but I think the government needs to
be earlier and stronger in their messaging because I'm picking
up people's anxiety and people not knowing, because if any
one was properly in charge, they'd say, Hey, we've heard
reports of the West coast been out. We're going to
send We're going to get tankers going across there tonight.
That's what people want. They want certainty, or they want

(01:45:22):
to know that they've got Johnny on the spot in charge.
I don't think we've seen that yet. All we've seen
is that but a cosplay where about four of the
government MPs were dressed up and hats and did you
see that? Never see anything as ridiculous. The shots are
all dressed up like it was off to an action movie.

(01:45:44):
Couldn't believe. I don't don't know why they allowed themselves
to do that image then even the goggles on straight
and they hell look ridiculous and that sort of teal
blue was cos playing at kind of anyway to know
who the others were or Robbie Kennet's on his name tag,
But who's authorizing the photos? When your helmets crooked? Anyway?
Minor quibble ten from eleven. If you have a part

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of it, here we go. How are you going? People?
What's happening? Seven away from eleven? Text and call Marcus.
Totally recommend Tom Denui good old fashioned local community, very underrated,
little town, good town, rail town, good name for suburbs,
sunshine up on the hills with the railway houses. Oh,

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she's a good town, but far from the sea. For me, Marcus,
I'm from in Vicago, Nelson since I was four, and
most people I have met here that are friendly are
from in Chicago. I'm sixteen. How Ye, a lot of
people move up there, although some find it not friendly
enough and move back. Yeah, there's a big contingent up
there in Vicago. What do know what's going on with Nelson. Well,

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that works for the Nelson people, doesn't it? Nor the
callers I get said, be fairly nice. Now let's have
a look how the war is going. The Iranians are
threatening to mine the Gulf. Khan threatens to lay mines
across the entire Gulf of coasts are attacked as Israel

(01:47:12):
WARN's war could continue for weeks. No surprise is there?
So that you go, it'd be very easier. Minor, you
just set the minds off, don't you only a navy
to do that. Asked about Donald Trump's theat to have
threats to obliterate Iran's power plants, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson

(01:47:33):
Lin Jian warned if the war expands further in the
situation teats again, the entire region could be plunged into
an uncontrollable situation, the use of force will only lead
to a vicious cycle, he said, adding that the war
which the US Israeli widely seemed to have started illegally
should not have begun in the first place. So it's

(01:47:55):
going to lead to the full closure and mind laying
if they do attack coastal facilities. By the way, I
did see that one of the one of the US
aircraft or big ships that was in the Mediterranean was
spotted as to where it was because one of the

(01:48:17):
guys on board had gone running with their fitness tracker.
Did you see that story? Yes, it was, Oh, it
might have been the French aircraft carrier. A French Navy
member was reportedly showing jogging in circles on a ship
in the middle of the sea northwest of Cyprus, according

(01:48:37):
to his public profile and the Strava fitness tracking app.
Was kind of weird. It was little circles, like a
little coil along and that was pretty amazing. So it
was an amazing image when you saw it. That's a
pretty interesting story. His sense of information about the location
staffing a military base and spy up posts around the
world has been revealed by a fitness tracking company. So

(01:49:00):
Stra has revealed all this information. They should have known
about that until midnight. Good evening. Welcome, eight hundred eighty
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Romance here at twelve. Was this day five years ago
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this day, nineteen fifty seven, the last of the US

(01:49:22):
Army's combat pigeons were retired. If you want to follow
up the stories about that, it's pretty interesting the combat pigeons.
Welcome and good evening. My name is Marcus. Get in touch.
We are discussing the best and friendliest and less friendly
places to live in New Zealand. But a good topic.

(01:49:42):
Keep it going. Apparently the mister Whippy into has been
impacted by the fuel shortage, not for the ice cream,
I imagine for the getting the truck around more in
good evening. It's Marcus, Welcome.

Speaker 5 (01:49:57):
Hi, Marcus Man's well. We were living anamor time and
men's stay. Thought we'd go for a wee drive and
leaned and it had a day off and we come
across the sweep up and angle angle filled. I think yeah,

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And we popped on and there's about six guys standing
on the Elena, you know, leaning, yepkay, all right, walked in.
He had a beer, I had a wine. Not a

(01:50:42):
word said, stayed there for you know, we finished our drinks.
We walked in and then they all said bye bye.

Speaker 30 (01:50:55):
H okay, wow.

Speaker 6 (01:51:00):
Ye.

Speaker 5 (01:51:01):
The only time they opened their mouth was saying goodbye
to us when we were leaving.

Speaker 2 (01:51:06):
Oh that's something that I suppose.

Speaker 5 (01:51:10):
Yeah, yeah, not very friendly.

Speaker 2 (01:51:16):
Where was it do you think?

Speaker 5 (01:51:17):
I think Inglefield? Not ingle would uh oh don't know,
I think Inglefield.

Speaker 2 (01:51:31):
Where was it the South Island?

Speaker 5 (01:51:34):
Just it was not far from Omrou?

Speaker 2 (01:51:37):
Oh yeah, Lefield?

Speaker 18 (01:51:38):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:51:41):
Where are you from?

Speaker 5 (01:51:43):
Well we lived in Omrou for two for six years,
but christ Church that we lived there for six years.
So we thought we'd go for a drive and yeah yeah,
but is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:52:04):
Good to hear marine. Thanks that ten past eleven. That's
the plan. Friendliest places or less friendly places to move
to text me or call me Marcus. The pigeons the
Jumy Army German Army had miniature camera strip to pigeons
take aerial shots. Now, if you want to be in

(01:52:24):
touch with the show, that's a discussion oh, eight hundred
eighty and nine to nine two is the text number
someone's sent about of town. But I think they must
have been tiquity. They've said TIKI two, but mt'st be tiquity.
Mark's the best. Keep saying for small town's t quity,
great schools, Furbesstree Hospital, medical Center, it's nine in ducks.

(01:52:47):
Have visit good sports club and new gymnasium and you're
still get a decent house, super friendly, best place we
ever lived. Love it. I looked at tomad Denui bit
colder and too far from cities like Hamilton. Yes, that's
the situation. Be in touch on. Add to this, are
we seeing mister whippy impacted? Good evening, Eric, This is

(01:53:08):
Marcus Welcome Hi Eric.

Speaker 7 (01:53:11):
Oh hey Marcus, there you go mate?

Speaker 2 (01:53:12):
Good Thanks Eric.

Speaker 27 (01:53:13):
Have you heard I.

Speaker 7 (01:53:15):
Haven't heard anything on our news or anything like that,
but I was just watching watching the Elda zero news tonight,
and that was saying that you know something that we
probably should be told as New Zealanders. That strange that
we hear it on there that the New Zealand, Australia
and several NATO countries along twenty countries on all up

(01:53:36):
have decided that they're going to get together and do
something to open up there straight over there over in
Iran where it's blocked up. Really yeah, really yeah. It
was on about a well half an hour ago. They
announced it on El Ja zero news and New Zealand
was mentioned as well in Australia and a whole lot

(01:53:58):
of NATO countries. They've got a plan to get there.
Was twenty countries on all up and New Zealand was
one of them. And we're going to go and help
help open up the straight somehow. But I don't know how,
So I just wonder if you do anything anything.

Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
So all I can see at the moment is a
stocks NATO members together the South Corroagia Panelstralia bar Rain
News into the u A propared to take joint action
to help ensure the security the straight ofform moves, said
NATO's secretary Mark ritt. It says the Alliance is still
deciding on its course of action to how to carry

(01:54:40):
it out. Once the time is right, it will move immediately.

Speaker 7 (01:54:44):
Yeah, because I don't know what their plan is. But anyway,
interesting isn't that?

Speaker 2 (01:54:50):
Yeah, because I've seen no indications. I've seen no indications
from here.

Speaker 7 (01:54:56):
I just thought it was interesting that, you know, we
hear these things on a foreign television station and we
don't hear nothing about it on our own news station.

Speaker 2 (01:55:04):
The comms for of the of the comms the government
with petron or this has been shocking. I mean, I
think we saw where I think we saw lux and
how bad he was. We said he wanted to carpet
would support carpet bombing. But I'm seeing no local reporting
of that.

Speaker 7 (01:55:18):
No, no, not. As I said, it's the first I've
heard of it, and it was about half an hour
go on on Al Jazeera News that they reported it,
so they didn't give me details of what was going
on and didn't sell directually moving in straight away. But
I said, there were twenty countries getting together and we
were one of them. But frolling help open up the
straight Maybe it's after the after the fact that I

(01:55:41):
don't know. Maybe it's after the Just.

Speaker 2 (01:55:43):
To another Google news search with this guy's name, this
guy Mark Rutt and news in it, and I'll see
what else I can see, because I thought that would
be big news here because that's I presume that's sending frigates,
isn't it because it's good, because because that's that's going
to be as dangerous is anything.

Speaker 7 (01:56:03):
Yeah, the thing matters for me is the thing I
that annoys me at the moment is that is the
lack of concern for small business owners in this country.
And how like we've already been for COVID on one
of them, we've already been for COVID. Theut destructions of that.
You know, small businesses really suffer their butts off. Man,

(01:56:26):
And here we go again, and you know, it always
seems to be focused on the on the same old,
same old, and they're always forgetting about the small businesses
that you know, they need the customers to come to them.
And if people can't ford gas to get to their
destination to spend or the spending all their money on petrol,

(01:56:48):
they can't spend it any small businesses. So where's the
support for small businesses to survive? And you know, not
just people also, not just people with work. They're going
to do this thing for working for families or what
about the people that don't have children? What about the
pension is what about the whole lot of New Zealanders
that never ever give any help. It's always seems to

(01:57:11):
be help goes one way.

Speaker 21 (01:57:13):
And that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:14):
What's your business?

Speaker 7 (01:57:17):
Where's the talk of healthy businesses? I don't really to
talk about my own business too much. It's the small business.
But the point of the matter is there's hundreds and
thousands of small businesses in this country that are suffering
and there's been nothing to help us. And what are
they going to do? Just let us all fall over again?

Speaker 2 (01:57:34):
Nice to talk Eric, we'll find out. Thank you, Sarah,
it's Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 6 (01:57:38):
Yes, hello, I just want to talk about something that
was quite scary to me. I and my mum and
another friend we decided we'd go and stay in Riversdale.
We rented out of place and it was on our
way out of Masterton and it was at night. It
was dark and there are no more street lights. But
they had these polls with the shining things on them

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and it was very good. But anyway, we went into
this pub and there were a whole lot of men
in there and they stop what they're doing with like
something out of a movie. They all stopped what they
were doing in the middle of darts, billiards or whatever,
and they stayed in that same position, like stattues and
watched the three of us go up to the counter,
and I was saying, oh, I don't like this, but

(01:58:19):
it's like, would we're too scared to run back to
the door, Well, somebody might grab me? Now can I
jump that counter if anything happened? Anyway, a young pucking
hag guy came to the counter, is smiling, and you
know anyway, he told us that we were in the
right direction, and so we left. And all those men

(01:58:41):
in there, the other men, they just I couldn't I
couldn't believe it. They just stayed in that same position
like steat shoes and watched us come in and then
watched us go out. Not one of them moved or
flinched to anything.

Speaker 19 (01:58:57):
Well, it's preaty.

Speaker 2 (01:58:59):
How was the rest of the holiday?

Speaker 7 (01:59:00):
All right?

Speaker 14 (01:59:01):
Great? Great?

Speaker 6 (01:59:01):
Yeah, now it's very fascinated with the castle Point courts.
Doesn't make those some place?

Speaker 2 (01:59:08):
Great place, great right house?

Speaker 6 (01:59:11):
Yeah, and see, everything was absolutely fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:59:16):
Okay, anyway, tell you that weird with a statues?

Speaker 19 (01:59:19):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:59:22):
Oh wait one hundred eighty nine nine to text. I
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Good evening, Good Marcus.

Speaker 33 (01:59:41):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:59:42):
Thank you? How's yourself?

Speaker 33 (01:59:44):
Yeah, not too bad, not too bad. I was just
driving home and I was just wondering if anyone had
actually brought up the topic of, like, what the worst
case scenario would happen if the war and Iran kept
going on?

Speaker 2 (01:59:56):
What do you think that is?

Speaker 34 (01:59:59):
Well?

Speaker 33 (01:59:59):
I actually I asked GBT because I was curious as
to what.

Speaker 2 (02:00:03):
It's interesting thing to do.

Speaker 33 (02:00:06):
Yeah, it gave me like a vague answer, but I
started drawing my conclusions from what's happening. I think it's
in Cuba, where they're mainly reliant on the fuel getting
to them to help power everything. Yeah, there's nothing going
for them.

Speaker 2 (02:00:22):
They were they were religned on Venezuela fuel, but that's
not going that way anymore.

Speaker 33 (02:00:28):
Yeah, and I sort of think what would happen late
to our day to day life if that happened here?
And I was wondering if anyone had actually brought that
topic up.

Speaker 2 (02:00:37):
No, well, I mean I certainly think it could be
a state where we were run out of fuel.

Speaker 15 (02:00:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 33 (02:00:44):
Yeah, I kind of imagine it would be similar to
COVID where we're all kind of stuck at home, but
we're not. It would only be people that have like
hybrid cars, I guess, or electric cars. They had true
freedom to roam around and all the rest of us
kind of, but there'd be.

Speaker 2 (02:01:01):
No deliveries of goods to supermarkets.

Speaker 35 (02:01:04):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:01:06):
So I don't know how that would work unless I
don't know how they would transport that.

Speaker 33 (02:01:13):
Yeah, well, surely they'd have to bring in some previous
form of transport. Do we still have like steam trains that.

Speaker 30 (02:01:19):
We can use?

Speaker 27 (02:01:21):
I guess it's a good point of that.

Speaker 2 (02:01:23):
Yeah, I hadn't thought of that. We have got steam trains. However,
we've got steam trains that will run on coal. Some
of those steam trains are isolated from the rest of
the network, like the ones in Kingston. They're sort of stranded.
So you have you have steam trains. Although there's an
explosion at Glenfield, there will be steam trains. Yeah, steam
trains would work. It's a really interesting thought. I don't

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think that'd work. I don't think they'd work for passenger
rail I think would be too. But yeah, they certainly
could carry. But then once you get your goods from
point of manufacture to where they're then you'd still need
to have them picked up from the from the station
and taken to the shops.

Speaker 7 (02:02:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 33 (02:02:03):
Yeah, I'm not what we would do there, but I
just imagine everyone's day to day life would definitely have
a huge shake up. Like I imagine it would be
a good idea to start getting to know your neighbors
because now that the fuel prices are going up because
I live in Wellington, I imagine I don't I don't
know when it's gonna happen, but I imagine people are
going to start like trying siphoning petrol out of people's cars.

Speaker 2 (02:02:27):
Yeah, people have talked about security of fuel and people
have talked about this more drive offs. They've got up
by twenty five to thirty from guest stations.

Speaker 34 (02:02:34):
But yeah, yeah, And I just wonder is like, like
what will we do now, like because I imagine like
lots of jobs like this is West Cast scenario, lots
of jobs will go. Everyone's just relying on the government,
I guess, to help bring in food and water because
like we won't have petrol to transport it, and unless

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we have the steam train, so we're gonna have a
lot of free time on our hands. I imagine.

Speaker 2 (02:03:00):
I guess the schools, the schools will cloe down. People
work from home. I imagine whether they export, you know, whether
the local farmers can produce, can provide food for us,
because there's not the export need. Because they although although,
well we've got hydro, so we can run the freezers
to freeze meat and stuff, can't we So lucky we've

(02:03:23):
got almost self sufficient with that.

Speaker 20 (02:03:24):
I would think, do you think they'll bring horses back?

Speaker 28 (02:03:27):
Horse and carriage?

Speaker 2 (02:03:28):
There would be many carriages, would they.

Speaker 33 (02:03:31):
I mean, I imagine there would have to be a
new job market. Well, they have to start building horse
carriages and stuff to help transport everything.

Speaker 2 (02:03:39):
I wonder how we could I wonder how we could
quickly move to getting our fleet vehicle fleet to be
better you operated, because there's probably a bet. I mean,
I think the main trunk train line between Hamilton and
Palmerston North is electrified as well, so probably you could

(02:04:01):
you could run that. You just have to use steam
trains to get your wagons to there.

Speaker 33 (02:04:06):
H yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:04:09):
If this is a topic that oh, I think it's
a really good and people say, I don't Skier Manger,
but you know, I mean these things could happen. It's
we're thinking about Yeah.

Speaker 33 (02:04:19):
I think the worst case scenario is like not thinking
about it at all and then absolutely weird to show up.

Speaker 2 (02:04:23):
Yeah, absolutely, because I think it's it's alreally much much
worse than they've said. It's much much worse than Don
Trump's would be over in four or five days. Winston
Pency to be over in four or five days. I
think four or five years. I mean it was supposed
to be Iraq was supposed to be quick. Afghanistan was
supposed to be quick. They were ten and twenty years
and didn't even achieve anything.

Speaker 33 (02:04:47):
Do you know if there's many jobs that were outdated
and taken away that will come back due to like
the events that will occur.

Speaker 35 (02:04:56):
Like a wheel right, Well, yeah, well I bring horse
courages back, I guess, or if they were like I
don't know, is there like well we start making smaller.

Speaker 33 (02:05:07):
Communities within our main centers and stuff like and like Wellington,
will there be like small community separated because not everyone
will have an electric car? So does that mean most
people will have to rely on biking and just walking around,
and most people I can't imagine we'll be doing that.
They'll be settled in where they are, and then well
we all have like different community groups potentially. I don't know.

(02:05:30):
I don't know if we're thought about that. I imagine
there'll be friends that we don't see that like live
maybe forty minute drive away, but we may not see them.
We might see them maybe once a year potentially.

Speaker 2 (02:05:43):
It's pretty interesting. How do you thank you for that
thought provoking comed I like that. It's pretty interesting. What
about guitar fields? Now, once they've given Trump that jet?
Who do they give that private jet? Is it worth
twenty billion? How much was it worth? They had to
give a zone Trump's personal and now they've been bombed,

(02:06:05):
their guests, plans been destroyed. There's anybody a year ago
the huge value of the plane. Forget what the value was.
It was a four hundred million luxury plane except as
a gift. Hello Nickott's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 28 (02:06:17):
Yeah, Hi, I'm just following off from that core. I
don't think we're actually going to run out the fuel?
Are we even't they? Maybe haven't we been.

Speaker 2 (02:06:24):
Told I think about Nick, Nick I think or something
Nick I think. His comment was quite clearly, what if
we do?

Speaker 28 (02:06:31):
Okay, well, you know, in the case of what if
I say, just bearing in mind that I think there's
only about twenty percent of all supplies I go through the.

Speaker 2 (02:06:40):
Straight Yes, but it's where it's where we get out oil.

Speaker 28 (02:06:43):
From, right, But there are other options.

Speaker 2 (02:06:47):
No, I don't think there are.

Speaker 28 (02:06:49):
Okay, well, don't know until we know do it?

Speaker 2 (02:06:52):
Well, we do know. We do know because it's where
our patrol comes from. And no one's going to freely
give up their petrol, are they, because they've buyers for it.

Speaker 28 (02:07:00):
Yeah, but there are negotiators and deal makers and breakers
and futures markets and all sorts of things, so can't
completely rule that out. All I was going to suggest
was that, you know, before we get to the state
of no full there would be prioritization, and it might
even be a pushback to the old days of where

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you know, you just basically survive on bread what is
it a flour butter? And you know that's expensive, but
you know, back to an older way of or an
older style of living as it were, less sort of
I was jump and car and go up and get
a Maco's a bit more eating at home. You know
what I don't mean.

Speaker 2 (02:07:41):
Yeah, that's right. The drive throughs will go, won't they.
Steven's Marcus, good evening, very nice.

Speaker 30 (02:07:46):
I just want to lay at a few points of
dix with this country unity and how much we've actually
got and what has actually not been exploited or explored.
If you recall back in the eighty year again between
the nod doing, government commissioned in built the murdinery mythinal
plant that was convening mythinal sorry initial gets into mythinal.
And then the next step in the process was synthetic

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petrol basically, and that was to do to future proof
us from that the oral sohocks that happened in the
seventies with the Middle East there. Now basically that part
cost the country over a billion dollars from textplace money.

Speaker 2 (02:08:21):
Just just pause, that's mortinouy guess to gasoline.

Speaker 30 (02:08:24):
Right, Yes, Well, basically it was natural guests in the
methanol alcohol and then the next step of the process
was synthetic petrol. Now, basically this is one part of it.
We've got John Key sort of two big sites of
shoalhold deposits and the Hastians gives mean in your inland
these were two sites were between twelve and twenty billion
barrels recoverable premium lights of crew, all done under the radar.

(02:08:49):
Basically two more companies off. Sure mean they're basically keeping
into it slowly. They've got to build the interestructure because
it's in land and Gisbon's very very mountainous and only
so it's actually quite difficult to get to. But you
know it's not off.

Speaker 7 (02:09:01):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (02:09:03):
Can we just pause back to Montinui because I find
that interesting METHA and X Yep. Was that petrol not?
And it was it too expensive? Was it not needed?

Speaker 30 (02:09:14):
Yeah? The krug or price shops. But what happened was
after the Marzoone government got thrown out, they put that
planet the musballs. Now it was cutting these technology only
in industrial chemistry. Was on the team of people that
came up with an inverted commerce catalyst X to help
the confusion prices.

Speaker 11 (02:09:29):
It's quite good. Quite the world.

Speaker 2 (02:09:31):
It was the world's first and the world's largest. It
was the world's first and largest methanol production facility.

Speaker 30 (02:09:38):
It was cutting people go, oh, you know, it was
a very efficient. Well, that was all very well, you
said it's not very efficient, But why then myth and
X purchase that plant offered Picture Challenge with even on
the government didn't sell us, they didn't give it away,
they paid Picture Challenge to take it off the hens.
I'm talking high level corruption here. Made it's bizarre anyway.
I can only say that there's a lot of conspiracy

(02:10:00):
behind it and will it even be don't give it.
I doubt it anyway. The point I'm making here is
that plant was designed to but we bought paid for
that plant over billion dollars and almost broad the country's
back point. Actually billion dollars in the early agent was
a lot of cash. Anyway, Essentially, we've got an overturn
on investment on that. The text player lost out. Well
Melding put in the think big projects, Clyde powerdown. Who

(02:10:23):
owns that now, Australians. New Zealand's still upgrade extension? Used
to be the government? Know who owns that now Australians.
It's not refining. The government keeps going. Well, you know
they could do what they want because they're private. No,
it used to be governed and national owned, nationalized. We
owned it once we paid for that up grade and
extension with the textplayer money. The government puted it off

(02:10:43):
the bugger all. And then I heard an interview with
some girl called someone Keith who was the ex manager
of that plant, with Kerry Woodemore, hither you plus here
on the other last week or something, and he said
he was the ex manager and he said, no, the
plant was Actually it was profitable, he said, but they
deliberately shut that down, really deliberately to make a lot
of money very quickly. And then somebody said to me, oh,

(02:11:05):
but they're doing the same thing Australia when same companies
doing it, same companies. So basically we've got this corporalized
woman control over us. If we were able to tap
into our own resource, like I said, the crude oil
we've got here, we've got quite an abundance of it.
There's all sorts of these new should deposits, not in
oil wells, but shalow war basically worland rocks, much like

(02:11:27):
the US has got. The US, for example, they could
open up their reserves. Marcus, I'll give you an example,
Green River Formation in the overlaps Colorado where in the
Utah sixteen thousand square miles of shale warm thousand meters down.
The recoverable quantity from that area is around one point
six trillion barrels with It's about three to five times

(02:11:48):
the amount of Middle East has ever had. It's huge.

Speaker 18 (02:11:51):
That's just one deposit.

Speaker 30 (02:11:52):
We've got all of the Barking and the South Dakota
and all.

Speaker 18 (02:11:55):
I mean, there's an.

Speaker 30 (02:11:56):
Oil well in Pennsylvania that keeps filling their apples on
so commertionally Bible Sotadians in the space, So there are
a lot of oil around. It's just I don't know
what's going all. I can't kill you.

Speaker 2 (02:12:08):
I think, I think. I think. The betsest solution I'm
gonna have to move on though, is that you'd want
to pivot towards renewables, solar wind tied. They should in
a long time ago. Then we wouldn't be in that situation.
There would be self sufficient. It's always going to become
more productive. It's the cheapest way to make power now,
solar has ever been cheaper. That's the answer. But no
foresight muldoone was alive. Now I'd be doing solar. That's

(02:12:31):
the thing that was the cutting edge technology.

Speaker 1 (02:12:34):
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