Soon to be called the walkperson (1 July 2026)

Marcus gets into the controversy around data centres, and discusses the best arm spelling song of all time.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
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Speaker 3 (00:13):
At seven. Greetings and welcome. I've just come from the
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keep you updated with that. Hearing reports of an instant
in South and Vericago in Bourne Street to everyone's got
any more information, but that emailed me through Greetings and welcome,
hit to twelve o'clock. Look, here's what I'm thinking. It's
a Wednesday. I'm pretty sure it's a full moon. I
left Bluff just as the moon was a slither coming up.

(00:56):
It was the most extraordinary moonrise, unbelievable, bright orange. I
don't know what. Yeah, it feels like it's full to me.
So anyway, that's not a talkback topic. By the way,
although I nope, were obsessed with the moon. So there
we go. Oh, yes, I'm probably acknowledging the moon because
sometimes when it's a film in the talkback can take

(01:16):
it quite a lively turn. And that's fine. Oh, by
the way, today is the anniversary of the Workman, and
I'm enjoying this because I remember vividly seeing my first Warpman.
This was nineteen seventy nine. On this day the Warkman
was released. For those people that are younger than my age,
what the Warkman was. It was the first time ever,
really you could take your music with you. You'd put

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a cassette and you'd wear it on a strap like
a handbag. Wow, and you'd take music with you as
you went. I never had one, but I've used them.
They're extraordinary for planes and for jogging if you're a
music person. Changed the way we did things. So let's
acknowledge that that's this day in nineteen seventy nine. Yeah,

(01:58):
it's first appearance remarkable and teenage life was never quite
the same again. Particularly imagine if you're a goth, you
going it a bubble with your whole and listen to
your cure music might have changed your life. The Walkman
soon to be called the walk Person. Great thing. Where
would you put in the world's best invention certainly be

(02:21):
top ten, I'd say. Anyway, that's something that I want
to acknowledge tonight. That's not the number one topic.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
There.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
I have got a topic for tonight, and it's not
a topic that I have firm opinions on, but it's
something that I think a lot about because I don't
really understand it, and there's certainly a lot of discussion
online about this, and.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
Just a.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
I don't really want to declare a conflict of interest,
but this is a story that is happening in the
south of the South Island as well, and it's data centers.
And I'm saying there's a big data center it's about
to well, I think they've got permission, they're about to
try and get the funding and start with it. But
it is happening in South and it's not within the

(03:18):
Inveracago Council boundary. But I don't know if you've been
involved with there. There's discussions on the inset about them.
But data centers huge, sorry, use an extraordinary amount of
electricity and an extraordinary amount of water, and they produce

(03:43):
noise and they produced heat, produce heat, and I've read
articles about them in cities in America where they have
made things very tough for the neighbors because there's a
continuous to be fair, I think that was probably in
somewhere like Phoenix, Arizona. I was reading about where it's

(04:03):
hot anyway, So if they are in the cooler climate
like call of climates like south and it's probably easier
to cool them down because they're not as hot. But
where I kind of get freaked out is they use
so much power. And we're having all this transition to batteries,
into solar and to wind farming or turbines, So all

(04:25):
these extraordinary things are happening to make us more self
sufficient in power or to give us more power, and
yet a lot of this power seems though it's going
to be used just to drive these data storage centers,
which doesn't seem to me. I mean, I'm not into
data storage, but I understand's a lot of electricity going
into making aluminium or giving cheap rates for power and houses.

(04:49):
But I'm just wondering if you're across the discussion with
power centers or data centers and how you feel about them.
What I can't quite work out is before AI, how
we manage to get by without data centers, but suddenly
it feels like we need them, and we need them
biggin They're talking about one data center that's going in
America that it is as big as Manhattan. The other

(05:10):
thing I'm unsure about is maybe the technology will change
and the law become obsolete. I'm not convinced enough about
the technology. It's come along so quickly. How do we
know that something's not going to usurp it? And then
they are talking about putting data centers in space that
was the best place for them. So if you want
to talk about because I know there's been huge discussions

(05:32):
online about this, like huge arguments, and people are very
very motivated about it. Yeah, so there is plans in
Utah to make a data center that's twice the area
of Manhattan twice. It'll cover forty thousand acres or sixty
two square miles and require nine gigawatts of power. Now

(05:54):
people are freaked out about this. If you follow what
people were freaked out about, They're freaked out about five
g they're freaked out about fluoride, they've flicked out freaked
out about vaccines, and now they are freaking out about
datas But to me. It seems as though the anxiety
and concern about data centers is not based on poor

(06:18):
thinking or conspiratorial information. People think, well, that's a lot
of power to go to one thing. Is that the
best use of our resources. If we're converting farmland to
turbines and solar, what's the point of it all just
goes to store data Because it seems as though it's
the one situation where what we're tend amount to doing

(06:39):
is exporting electricity, although it's not really what we're doing,
but we're allowing overseas companies to come and use our
power and then exporting the data. So yeah, that's the question.
Just your thoughts on it, And as I say, I
could probably suaye both ways of you know, but I
just don't know about it. I'm just curious to know
what other people's opinions are and perhaps hopefully we get

(06:59):
a good discussion going about that or not. Hey Nickotts, Marcus,
good evening and welcome.

Speaker 6 (07:06):
Doing good.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Thanks Nick.

Speaker 7 (07:08):
We were in the UK this time last year and
I was just watching a bb BBC in the hotel
one night and there was some idyllic area in the UK,
you know, where people had you know, a lovely town
ship type thing, you know that the UK can do,
and that those particular people had had a data center

(07:29):
built in their area somewhere ah, and it was a
disaster that the town people they were talking to said,
all of a sudden, at times the water coming out
of their tapers brown since the data seat of started.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
So I imagine that would just mean it uses too
much of their water and suddenly there's not enough water flowing.
So the water they're getting as brown. Is that what
it's about?

Speaker 7 (07:54):
Well, yeah, she was. They were trying to find answers
or are just been set up down the road a
little bit massive, big friends, and the locals were just
saying they were talking about the noise, and they were
talking about at times they turned on their tap and
brown water comes out of the tent and they're all
having to buy water and it's just a scurge. It's
just gonna be I just yeah, I just couldn't believe,

(08:17):
you know, these people, you know, it's just trying to
live their life and their lovely area and next thing
they've got brown water coming out of the attents.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Because I don't know how much of it as a
scourge or how much of it is the fear of
the new. But if you've got brown water coming out
of your top tips, that's not good. It seems as though, yeah.

Speaker 7 (08:37):
That started happening since you know, once the data to
say that, there has to be a link, you know.
And in the end, I just want those people to
sell up and move, won't they.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Well you wonder why they put it near a place
where people, but that's probably where they can get the
reticulated water.

Speaker 7 (08:54):
Well it was you know, well, you know, I was
near a town of I don't know, I can't remember
whether it was a kilimitter down the road or five
k down the road, but yeah, they did something and yeah,
it was just it was just under people. How all
this was happening from there? Wasn't there one need to
be built here? Some stage?

Speaker 3 (09:12):
There was one supposed to be an Auckland, but they
couldn't get the funding. And now there's a huge one
proposed for Southland which has got consent and it's all
tied to it's all tied to international data cables that
are coming in as well. So if the data cables
are there, you can generate the storage because then you

(09:34):
can explot I don't. I don't even know how it works.
But you need to be connected to the Internet via
via giant cable so you can so other other countries
can use the data storage.

Speaker 7 (09:48):
Right, sounds like it's going to be a big message.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
They don't create many jobs. A lot of people are
required to build them, but then it takes very few
people to run them because I just think, I just
think it's banks and banks and banks of computers. But
also they need a closed cooling system with water going
through to keep them cool so they don't overheat. And
I think that's what is I think there's fans that
do that, and that's the noise is the whine of

(10:13):
the fans.

Speaker 7 (10:15):
All right, Yeah, to watch the space and probably won't
pick me in new markets too much with our generation,
I think.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
I think that. I think the surprise thing is it
is happening very very quickly, like they're building, like there's
there's a real gold rush on for storage.

Speaker 7 (10:33):
Yeah, and then the bequestion is it all going to
go fast? Interesting?

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Well, that's the other thing, because I mean, who knows
when another technological advance when it's going to come, which
is going to make all these things obsolescent?

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (10:51):
Oh, yeah, no interesting GUIDs.

Speaker 8 (10:53):
All right.

Speaker 7 (10:53):
Yeah, we're streaming ahead, and it's all a bit unregulated,
and I guess and I don't know the A I think.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
And West, Well, it seems to me there must be
better uses for electricity as far as job creation or
ease of living goes, but I don't know what those are.

Speaker 9 (11:11):
Well, yeah, of.

Speaker 7 (11:12):
Course the I mean. But because it's so unregulated, and
I guess it's trillion. I mean, I don't even talk
in billions, they're talking in trillion.

Speaker 10 (11:24):
Yeah, yeah, I guess it's going.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Okay, we'll keep the conversation going. Thanks that we're talking
data storage. I know you've got a lot to say
about online. What do you want to say about it
on air? Just give us your your concerns about it.
I'd be really curious to know what you think of
it data centers, because it's the keyboard warriors. Why don't
use that term dismissively. But people are people are getting

(11:55):
really worked up about it, and I think some of
their concerns are probably true, and some of their concerns
are probably people winding them up a bit. That's my
take on it. Back at you a lot of texts
I'll get to those when I've got a moment, but
keep those coming through. Kelly. It's Marcus.

Speaker 11 (12:12):
Good evening, Hello Marcus, how are you good?

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Thank you? Kelly.

Speaker 12 (12:15):
I am phoning from the Southland Sustainable Resource Coalition and
we are a grassroots movement set up down here in
Southland with the aim of increasing public awareness around industrial
developments in Southland.

Speaker 13 (12:30):
And we are.

Speaker 12 (12:32):
Currently sort of working towards opposing the data center at
Macadowa due to the size and the risk and the
lack of public consultation throughout the whole process.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
What's your what's your immediate concern?

Speaker 12 (12:47):
Immediate concern would be power usage and water usage. The
data center is currently planned to use two hundred and
eighty megawatts of electricity initially, which is a huge amount
of power. It's enough to power the whole of Wellington,
including all their industrial stuff, and that's they're going to

(13:09):
scale up to one gigawa, which is like four times
that essentially, yes, so one gig of what New Zealand
uses between five and six gigawatts of power, and so
they want one whole one of them. And the concern
is that there's not enough power in the grid and
there's not enough clean green energy in the country to

(13:30):
make it a clean green project. If we've got to
burn coal at Huntley to put power on the grid,
that takes away from its clean green status.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
But that's the business that they can that's between them
and the power generators, isn't it If they can.

Speaker 12 (13:45):
Well, they've managed, They've secured half of what they require
at this stage. It's not coming from Monipodi, so it's
not necessarily clean Southland energy. But we just at people
to look at the scale of the proposal just because
we want transparency, we want robust assessments of accumulative impacts

(14:05):
because it's not us to data center. There's two data
centers coming as well as a silicon smelter, and we're
just concerned that they're each being consented by different consenting
authorities without the three of them being looked at as
one project.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
If we can just broaden it out internationally, what have
been Because there's so much discussion online now about data centers,
and I believe I believe there's probably people out there
that have realized that some of them have been bad
and there's concern about it and are kind of amplifying it.
But what's been what is. I mean, I know one

(14:40):
there's been in hot places where there has been noise
that's caused concern and stuff like that. What what what is?
What are your readings showing you?

Speaker 10 (14:47):
Well?

Speaker 12 (14:47):
So far in my research, I've only found two countries
that have data centers that don't have a problem, and
those are the countries that use air coolings that they're
not using water.

Speaker 14 (15:00):
Water.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
The water is a closed system, isn't it. It's like
they've got.

Speaker 12 (15:04):
No no, no as open system and it'll go.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Are you sure about that?

Speaker 10 (15:10):
Yep?

Speaker 12 (15:10):
The tea for the tea for small data center in
town is closed circuit. But the Macareli data grid one
is open. It's not closed.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Okay, So what does that mean? The water comes from
somewhere else?

Speaker 12 (15:24):
Yes, the water comes in from Eckliss to the ground.
So they've got bores and they're taking the water from
the ground, and they've got a consent to discharge a
certain amount of fluid onto the ground each day. But
that's sort of tap water and sinks and toilet flushing
and stuff like that. Apparently the water they use then
just goes up as heat. Okay, So it's yeah, taking

(15:46):
a lot of water out of the system and yet
not a lot of it coming back.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Do you feel that your concerns might prove to be unfounded?

Speaker 12 (15:54):
No, No, it's really it's really hard to find successful stories.
It's really hard to find places that aren't suffering from
data centers. There's a lot of people, a lot of
places in America where there's people that can't sleepy. It's
just constant humming noises.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Followed those stories. I think there was one I read
in Phoenix, Arizona. But that's clearly a hotter place, so
require more power to keep it cool, you would think.

Speaker 10 (16:22):
But yeah, yeah, I think.

Speaker 12 (16:25):
Of how flat south Wind is. Sometimes you can be
on one side of the cargo and you can hear
the waves crashing even though you know where near the
beach on a calm, calm night. And you can be
on the complete oppoite side of the town and still
be able to hear the race cars that share a
tong even though you're moles from it. So this data
center's noise is going to travel regardless. They're putting up

(16:47):
the derricks bunts to try and block out noise, but
I know, sound just sort of goes up. It doesn't
stop existing, just because there's a wall there.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
I guess the one good thing is if it doesn't
I imagine the one good thing if it doesn't pan
out and be successful for all sorts of reasons, it
would be a fairly easy thing to destroy. It's just
a big shed on flat land, isn't it.

Speaker 15 (17:08):
Essentially?

Speaker 12 (17:09):
Yeah, it's just giant computer server houses. But I do
believe they have to return return the ground to how
it was if it was to be shut down.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
It's kind of it just seems to me to be
such an extraordinary large use of power with so few
jobs created. I mean, and maybe it's just maybe it's
just me not being able to come to terms of
what the future is like because in the past of
the power for jobs and doing things I've given. If
we look at t Y was using a lot of power,
it was causing an employed two thousand people.

Speaker 12 (17:42):
Yeah, that's the thing is that data grid will be
using more power in the long run, but employing eighty people,
whereas t Y employees about twelve times there.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
And it's just it's just storage or it's a data
center for AI. Is it the cloud or is it AI.

Speaker 12 (18:01):
Data factory is what they're calling it. It's quite vague.
I don't think quite knows what that is. I mean
some people people obviously do. But yes, it's an AI
data factory. I know they've got some space. Agree to
be lethal.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
I've just got to go to headlines. I know that
you that that this is a this is this a
story that's got national focus? Is that what you're finding
out for people? Is this discussions happening in other communities?

Speaker 14 (18:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (18:29):
Absolutely, there's a group south on Facebook and they are
strongly opposing data Sender's New Zealand Why and they are
spreading out across New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Appreciate you coming through. She thir twenty nine away from
nine miname as Marcus work. We're talking data centers and
people's reaction to those. By the way, I can just
tell I've got breaking news through the Village People. Lead
singer and founding member Victor Willis has died at the
age of seventy five after a short but aggressive illness.

(19:00):
One of the founding members it started as a duo. Now,
I know you're going to be asking which one he is.
I'm not entirely sure. Many many years ago I did
interview them a long long time ago, but I think
that one of those groups that changed and had all
different sorts of members. But if he was one of
the original the construction worker or the Indian or the

(19:25):
I think he was a traffic cop Dan Dan said dance,
So I shouldn't laugh because but Dan say he was
the sailor. But I'm pretty sure he's there in a
traffic officer's outfit and like a mustache and a and
a goatee. So I think they probably swapped around. So
there we go. Anyway, Trump loved them. But yes, there

(19:48):
was a construction worker in Indian American Indiana, sailor and
a leather man and a cowboy. It seemed to change
from day day. Anyway, I do come through if you
want to talk eight hundred and eighty Teddy where I'm
talking data centers. Got a lot of texts about that.
Would like more calls if you've thought about this, would
like to hear from you, Come on, because yeah, I'm

(20:08):
sure look and I'm sure some of you might be
all in and think it's fantastic. I don't know. Someone said,
wanting to take the land dock, wants to sell Someone
said issues in Slough, London, temperatures up by nine degrees.
Welcome to the Fourth Industrial Revolution. It's not going to
be pretty. We we'll see the biggest global monopolies in
history and they won't need human workers. Why store data.

(20:31):
It will be obsolete in fifty years. Humans will be
back in the Stone Age. Someone says, these facilities inject
billions in capital to host regions, generate high paying jobs,
and massively boost local text revenues. Someone says, I'm worried
about the EMFs and whether I'll double the tinfoil on

(20:52):
my hat. It's this obsession with story everything on the cloud. Oh,
it's a s obsession with storing everything in the cloud,
which I refuse to do. I don't care how secure
they claim it, as someone is accessing it anyway. If
you've got comments on that, I just thought I'd like
to take a rain check and see what people think,
if people have thought about it, and what their thoughts are.

(21:17):
It's a huge amount of power, that's the thing. That's
the sound information. It requires a huge amount of power
to build factories to store or to build buildings to
store data, and they require that they make a lot
of jobs when they build it, but they're not not
required many people to run it, because it's just banks
and banks and banks of computers. I don't even want

(21:38):
they know what they do. They' probably be security guards
and air conditioning technicians to make sure they don't overheat.
But I imagine some of you up skilled because a
lot of there's a lot of literature out there, a
lot of discussions on Facebook pages, and I'm sure it's
not just the thing of the southod. I'm sure people
everywhere are doing this discussing it. Good evening, Helen, it's
Marcus welcome.

Speaker 13 (21:57):
Oh yeah, Hi. I don't know if I'm completely off
track here, but you know, recently, just legislation is passed
in Parliament blocking Mike Smith's court chase where he was
trying to too think of.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
I think I think they've got overturned. But yeah, I know,
I'm familiar with that about.

Speaker 13 (22:18):
Them and they and they. Oh sorry, I thought that
the legislation meant that he that nobody could actually see
them more. And I'm just wondering that's right. This might
happen with this data center, that it's something like they
get their permits and everything and satisfy that and then
if something goes wrong, nobody can take any action against

(22:39):
them because of this legislation. Well, I don't know if
I'm on the right track or not here, but it
was just the thought.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Well, my understanding is data centers from an emission's point
of view, are very very good. People want them because
there's no CO two emissions. The only thing is heat
and noise and that could be mitigated. And I think
probably in terms of if we look at data centers
compared to compared to mining and the devastation of the

(23:09):
environment and activities that produce huge amounts of greenhouse guesses,
they come up looking for every desirable Yes, well.

Speaker 13 (23:18):
I don't know if I'm completely off track here, but
it was something that occurred to me that might be relevant.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Are you Are you aware? Are you aware of them though?
Is it something you've given much thought to?

Speaker 13 (23:28):
No, I only think I heard about it tonight.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah, I'm just the only thing is that that that
I've been surprised by is how many Facebook book groups
there are with people going on and on about But
maybe the algorithms fit for me, and maybe I've clicked
on one thing and I'm getting dished up a lot
of stuff. But it appears as though it's quite a
big story.

Speaker 13 (23:46):
Well, it seems to me that it's absolutely huge. In
what land are they going to use? It's more farms.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Oh, there's no shortage of there's no shortage of land
down there's no shortge of land with it. I mean,
it's just a it's just regional land in the middle
of South and I mean there's a ton of it
for dairy farms. There's no shortage of flat land.

Speaker 13 (24:05):
I know. But I mean, well, what's happened with all
these pine trees that you know, Shane Jones and his
billion trees things that you know, forgot to tell us
it was going to be a billion pine trees. That's
really had a terrible effect on the rural economy. So
that on brook Sure and closing freezing works and the

(24:27):
meat prices have gone skyrocketing and everybody is suffering because
of that and unintended consequences.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
I don't know, Well, I think there's I think there's
a lot of different I think there's a lot of
different things there that are happening. I think the pine
trees for carbon sec secustration is a different situation from
the situation. It seems as though there's been a revolution
and artificial intelligence, and it requires extraordinary amounts of computer power, yes,

(24:59):
to drive AI, and they need it, and they've got
to build these messes. I can't work out why they
need such massive data centers for it. It doesn't work
out to me. But that's what they're needing. And they're
building data centers that are twice as big as Manhattan.

Speaker 13 (25:11):
Yeah, sounds terrific.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
About sixty square it's a shared sixty square miles.

Speaker 13 (25:17):
Well you see them what that's that's productive? Bat, Then
that's going. I've got I would like to sometime talk
about my absolutely horrific experiences with one eight directory assistance,
but that can be another night.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
I don't know, I don't know. It's still a thing, Helen.

Speaker 13 (25:37):
What Oh? Yes, I mean.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Can I talk about is your site? Is your sight gone?

Speaker 13 (25:44):
No? No? Can I talk about this now? We'll leave
it to another night.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Well, I'm tempted. I mean, you've got me curious. Now
what happened with one eight?

Speaker 9 (25:53):
Well?

Speaker 13 (25:54):
When you ring up one eight and you get this this.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
This, it's not freedomore, is that right?

Speaker 7 (26:00):
No?

Speaker 13 (26:00):
It's I don't know, you know it's not free. You
ring up and you get this this computerized voice that's
just you know, did what's his name forget?

Speaker 16 (26:15):
Now?

Speaker 13 (26:16):
Your friendly AI agent? And then you say where where
you want? You know, you want a phone number? And
like one thing, I've really got against that. All Mauri
names are now kind of anglicized. And he's saying what
today Now, I keep it insisting it's called sangay. I'm

(26:39):
not going into this wang array business. He said is
a Maori word. In New Zealand they call it wanga
ay now. But even when I want rights and rights
in Charter's Dargaville, I get he can't handle any of
that or it can't handle any of that. And so

(27:04):
when I say he's just do it, says do you
mean shanghai or do you mean tongue? And it's just awful.
And you see this note where you can actually complain
to or or get any improvements on it, because I've
tried a life to do it, trying to get.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Sorry, Helen, because'm getting triggered by your exasperation. Why are
you what number did you want?

Speaker 13 (27:31):
Well?

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Just quickly quick answer what were you looking for?

Speaker 13 (27:33):
Okay? Right in some tongue ray of patters and Dargaville authors.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
So are these are these like hardware shops. Yes, okay, stop,
So why don't you just go to a phone book
and go to the computer.

Speaker 13 (27:46):
I don't have a computers that's Internet accessible at the moment. Okay, okay, thank.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
You, Okay. I mean, you know, change yourself will change
the world. That would be my thoughts if someone out
there in those about data centers. Why I can't work
out why we spend so much time on Facebook and
on Google and stuff like that, and that all seems

(28:14):
to be okay, but suddenly AI comes around. It seems
it needs so much more computing power. I don't understand that.
And they are just building massive sheds. There's just something
I don't understand. Tim, it's Marcus.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Good evening, Hey, good evening, Marcus.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
You will yes, thank you, Tim, Thank you for asking brilliant.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
I knew nothing about data centers until fifteen minutes ago.
Half an hour ago. I was coming out of the
supermarket something from the car, and the radio was on
as it always is, and I had talking data centers.
So there's something slightly interesting. Siring a friend who lives
in Auckland and he's just changed his position history and

(28:56):
it guy for a long time. He's working next to
a data center in Auckland. So I said, what is
a data center? And he told me, you know, I
basically like you've said, it's a massive shed with thousands
of computers which hold information for different clients in the
case of the one he's next to, like New Zealand Police,

(29:18):
but many many other clients. And I've never really looked
into it because I'm not a technological to the guy anyway,
and I'm always a but the things I don't.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Need, you're a bangie gay a bangie.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
Sorry, yes, right, I will stay still and not do
anything now. So there's things I need to know, and
there's things I don't need to know in the world
because I can take on too much information and understand
not needed to me. But he I said, okay, that's
all good pros and cons. He said, well, obviously you

(29:56):
get all that information in one place. Air Conditioning doesn't
seem to be as big a factor in them as well,
not in this particular one. Uh, water cooling is the
preferred choice because it's cheaper to run than lots of
air conditioning. Okay, you've got fans, thousands of fans. You know,

(30:18):
I don't know enough about it whether to be well,
I'm not bothered by it because.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Okay, it's fine, just not Yeah, I appreciate you doing
it so quickly to find out about it, But because
I always thought the heat pumps were the most efficient way,
you wonder why that is better than water cooled. Might
be the noise Terresa, it's Marcus.

Speaker 15 (30:37):
Good evening, I'm Marcus.

Speaker 17 (30:40):
Just a couple of thoughts on it. I don't know
much about it either. But I was watching Clucks and
Stum just incidentally last you.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Know, watching I miss the word watching watching.

Speaker 17 (30:51):
Clucks and Farm, and they had a dairy farm which
had a secular economy. So if you want to build
a data center, I wonder if you should be collecting
your own water off the roof as rain water, collecting
that and the heat that comes off the computers instead
of air conditioning or whatever. Have a heat extraction fee
and build a greenhouse next to it and grow tomatoes

(31:13):
or strawberries, or use that heat for something else rather
than just calling it when it go into the atmosphere.
And why don't they take all the heat that they're
generating and use it for another purpose, like build a
greenhouse next to it, grow mushrooms, or something, you know,
like they whoever builds a big industry like that should
be responsible for everything that goes into it and everything

(31:36):
comes down of it. And you know, so they can
be using their heat for benefit for something else which
would create employment.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
So I think you think there would be other synergies,
wouldn't you?

Speaker 17 (31:49):
Yeah, there would be. And my next question was going
to be, like who's paying for all the data to
be stored in? Like thet a source of income? Is
it's something we can export or import, you know, like
get collected revenue from because someone has to pay to
have the storage put somewhere. So is it a well
that another industry that we can be earning money from.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Sorry Theresa. That is the from understanding. That is the
whole point of them. But because they're quick, because they
are attached to international underwater cables, these massive data centers,
they want to build a new zealand will be storing
data for overseas companies. So literally what we are doing,

(32:32):
and it's an overseas consortium that's proposing to build one
of these very big ones because it's so pricey and
they will make their money by charging overseas clients mainly
to store their data.

Speaker 17 (32:44):
If we were storing anything else, like anything physical like
cars or what are the sheds for the cars, were
charging for storage as well, so you surely they can
measure how much data is coming in and data is
going out, sort of saying you need to pay per
whatever it is for our storage.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
That's exactly what they will do. But this seems to
be the first time that we can because we can't
normally store stuff for overseas countries because you've got to
bring it here, like we can't store apples or cars
because you've got to bring them from overseas. But because
of the World Wide Web, overseas companies can store their
data here because they can shunt it around the world instantly.

(33:22):
Do you understand, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
I do.

Speaker 10 (33:24):
I do.

Speaker 17 (33:24):
I wonder where it comes through satellites as well as
or does it need to come through cables.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
I think mainly it comes through cables summer in cables,
and I think that's because you're probably the data would
get a jak if it's going all around the world.
They might be interferent. I don't know fully about that.

Speaker 9 (33:40):
Sorry.

Speaker 17 (33:41):
I think if they if they need to have a
sexual economy, so whatever they take from it or put
into it, like they need to generate their own power
like solar farms or solar panels or wind farms, and
then they extraped from this data farm the data.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
But why do they have to do anything because they're
just private companies that are just buying the power on
the free market, that's what they're doing.

Speaker 17 (34:07):
I just think they need to take responsibility for being
contributing to our or to air overall. If they're going
to use our water and use you know that the
heat could be used to other things rather than just
cooling it down running big fans to cooler what it
goes into the atmosphere. Why don't they use that heat
for something else. It's just that I like, let's let's
think outside the box and let's make it be smarter

(34:29):
about this rather than just saying treating each industry and itolation.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Okay, okay, thank you. Teresa's Teresa's thoughts. If you want
to come through eight hundred and eighty ten to nine,
you bet it's Marcus good.

Speaker 18 (34:42):
Evening you get the Marcus on fifty fifty on these
data centers. I think it's it would be a good
thing to come to New Zealand. The investment these are well,
these are the future, you know, just be realistic. They
are the future, the future of our financial systems. You know,
we're going to have to use them regardless of of
they here or not. So I think it will be

(35:05):
a shame to much out on the technology and investment
that comes with it. But what I am worried about
is you look at some of the states in the UIs.
It's pushed out power process by seventy five percent in
some of those states because they're having to burn coal
and stuff to bring down you know, to produce enough power,

(35:26):
and it's getting weak to cross everyone. So it just
means that everyone pays more for their power.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Good to hear from you, Ben, thank you for that.
I don't and I don't fully I don't fully understand.
I have seen enough discussions on how they will mitigate
the effects of price. So yeah, if you but yeah, please,
people are up skilling with the stuff and finding out
more about If you do want to comment, feel free
to get us through. By the way, too, it looks
like South and Shark will win this basketball by about

(35:53):
three points. I think, well one hundred and one ninety five,
eighteen seconds left to go six away, sorry four away
from at nine o'clock with you right through until twelve tonight.
We're talking data set. Does it the information you have
glinged about these because they seem to be the hot
topic with face group, with Facebook groups and all sorts
of stuff and people doing what they can to find

(36:17):
out about that. It's complicated because it's data and it's
AI and who already knows what that's about. But I
tell you what, There is a worldwide demand for data storage.
And I don't know how much is data storage and
how much is storage for AI generation, but it's there
is a building frenzy similar imagined to building the railways

(36:38):
across the United States several hundred years ago, and billions
have been made or trillions have been made. And what's
our role in that with data storage? But yeah, I
just want to if Peel had some information what their
concerns or had some thoughts and what their concerns were
and what their understanding of it was also too, so

(36:58):
you want to talk about that. That's the plan. Someone had
a very good point mark as simple concept for data
centers to build them off in the oceans. The cables
are there and the water for cooling is there and
the people are not. That's from me, and they are
the two things I have heard. I've heard people talking
about that the real place for data storage needs to

(37:20):
be in the water or in outer space, but I
don't think we're there. Ultimately that might be where it
ends up being, but for now it seems to be
anywhere you can build the giant sheds for it. And
New Zealand's going to be a part in that too.
I think there was a big one that was planned
in Auckland. I think they couldn't raise the money for that,

(37:40):
but there's certainly others going ahead. Gretty's good having the
main topics that are data centers. Are you concerned? Why
are you're concerned? And what information have you got about them?
It's something that seems to have got people are more
and more interested with what's going on. A lot of
stories internationally about them about data centers. I don't know
how long they've been around. It seems like out the
last three four four years, maybe they've popped up everywhere.

(38:02):
And I think the great thing is you can kind
of build them everywhere as long as the cable to
take the data there, so lad that would otherwise use
can become useful for data storage. Put a massive sheet
in there and some cooling, you're good to go. Ariot's
Marcus Grevening.

Speaker 9 (38:17):
Hi, Marcus, I'm Auray. I worked in it. I'm not
an expert in data centers, but I know generally what
they're doing. And as you this is has just mentioned.
It's like the setting about the railways in America some
a couple of hundreds of years back. It's the same thing.
It's almost a new generation of the Internet. The reason

(38:41):
why data is needed because the boom on in a
AI and we are using AI everywhere today and you'd
be surprised the other day eventually countdown, I think, and
that I couldn't identify a vegetable.

Speaker 5 (38:54):
I just.

Speaker 9 (38:56):
Scanned it in front of the machine and it identified
it automatically. So that was AI at work. So AI
is already here, and many New Zealand and horticulturists, I think,
are already using AI. For example, machines are detecting whether
a particular vegetable of fruit is ready for ripening or

(39:17):
not and then fluxit if it is right, just by
looking at it. And how does it do that? It
processes hundreds and hundreds of probably thousands and millions of
pictures of right fruit, non right fruit, young fruit, and
so on, and these are all pictures that identifies the
pictures correctly and said, hey, this one's right, this one's

(39:38):
not right. To take such decisions, you need data, okay,
terabytes and terabytes and of that. So that's why we
need data centers.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Ari, Well, maybe you can answer me this. How come
if I just use check GPT on Google and it
needs so much data, how come they're not charging me
for it when it's just on my computer. That's what
I can't get. If it's if it's so much expensive,
why they If it's so expensive, why are they're giving
it away?

Speaker 9 (40:05):
This is where and where all the big companies, Amazon, Microsoft, Facebook, Aws,
everybody is in the race right now to set up
the AI infrastructure around the world. New Zealand is seen
to be a good place because it's perceived to be green.

(40:28):
It's got good sustainable energy, it's got lots of fresh water,
clean water, and that also helps them to meet their
own global sustainability targets. The government also helps because it
results in investments, It results in lots of construction jobs

(40:48):
and Finally, New Zealand is kind of in a safe
area of the world away from the problem areas very
well connected to the global Internet backbone. So it's a
win win situation for New Zealand, and the same thing
is happening in more remote places like iron and Iceland.

(41:13):
I think for the same reason. And I think this
is a competitive advantage for New Zealand in the future
and the government. I think the variety in terms of
the concerns has to be transparent.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
It is.

Speaker 9 (41:28):
It is a concern because lots of water is needed
mainly for cooling off the server farms we call them
farms right, wrecks, racks and racks and racks of service
and water is the cheapest means to cool them, and
it really is used for cooling the air around the service.

(41:48):
And there's water is basically just circulated out. Water evaporates
schools down and it is recirculated back. It's not consuming
the waters, just being used for cooling purposes, just as
in a firm and power station for instance.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
But that point you make, Carrie, we always talk when
you think about the tarority of distance. No matter what
we might we've got export it and lead so much
to our cost, would it be blind to Europe? But
with data it's free. You know, we we we're not
penalized for being remote with data storage. Is that your understanding?

Speaker 19 (42:17):
That's right?

Speaker 9 (42:17):
No, no, no, we're not panel as In fact, these companies
Amazon for instance, have specific, very very specific rules where
they need they should be keeping their data centers and
in terms of redundancy. So they think one data center
goes down, there should be other data centers to pick
it up. So they're always looking for safe, stable places

(42:39):
politically stable land as well. Yeah, so on all these
France New Zealand scores quite well.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Really nice to hear from you area. I appreciate you
coming through. Twelve past nine dB. It's Marcus.

Speaker 15 (42:53):
Good evening, Harry. Actually have almost everything I was gonna say.
You make a good question, what why is it free? Well,
every time you type a question into cat GPT, it's
aggregating everything that you type and it's grist to their mill.

(43:17):
They anything inputs from you for nothing. They're making money
out of the data they mine out of you. Every
time you just wipe your New World card, that goes
off to a into the cloud. And these data centers
are just the manifestation of the cloud. And the more

(43:37):
data centers they have, the more, as are said, the
world done into their head. They used to have the
one with every computer center and it couldn't hold.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Would It would be frightening how you put that on
your on a It would fit on a fingernail. Now,
how much data are they stored there? I would imagine
that's right.

Speaker 15 (43:59):
And and now say you know that used to be
the police data center, and the police, I'm just you
probably would have filled only these days. That's how much
data they've gone on everybody. And I'm not trying to
be a conspiracy here. There is just that much data.

(44:23):
And it's dynamic data, so the data is changing all
the time.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
But you see, yeah, and do you do you have
any concern? You have my concern. My only concern is
we go to such Historically, we've gone to such extraordinary
lengths to find ways to generate renewable power, whether it
be the Manipurly power scheme, whether it be the hydro

(44:52):
scheme around Togedhedo, whether it be the ones on the way.
You know, our fourbes have gone amazing things to generate
extraordinary clean power. And now we've got which could do
amazing things an industry or whatever. But now it seems
like the greatest use for it is it just seems

(45:12):
to be very un edifying and exciting way to use
our Palet's the only thing. The only problem I've got
with that it just seems to be a waste of
good power. But I don't know what the other power
in tent industries that we have here are, and probably
we haven't got anymore.

Speaker 15 (45:28):
Well, think on this. We will have to garantee the
power to these data centers if we have a lean
year on brain.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
No, No, I think I think now, I think they
will have a lot of batteries. I think there's going to.

Speaker 15 (45:43):
Be They don't have ups, but they and.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
I think they will need to have it now because
they we're going to build the one down south because
I thought t Y was closing, but now t Y
is still going. So they will need to have They
will need to have a sense that they can have
a lot. That that's what I imagined. But anyway, Yeah,
I think that they start.

Speaker 15 (46:05):
Using it watt of energy and we can't supply it
via renewables. We will have to produce it by burning coal. Yeah,
the data center is green. That the power coming into
it may well come from a thermal station and we
will be charging probably and discounts about for the electricity

(46:28):
that they use. But the if we can't supply enough
of it, they'll get their money back. What's the word
in fine for not providing?

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Sure, so you have concerns about there? Is that where
your concerns are.

Speaker 15 (46:47):
When that lady came on a said hand, just how
much power it is? And I understood they use a
lot of power, but when you're up around the gigawatt
ere this is New Zealand, we only make it. She said,
seven gigawatts of usage. Based on the usage that's and
if one seventh of that is going to one building.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Ooh, they do use a lot of power.

Speaker 9 (47:08):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
That we need data. Data makes the world go round.

Speaker 15 (47:13):
Well, it makes your show work because you tap away
on your computer.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Ah yeah, okay, nice to hear for we with DV.
Thank you for talking data centers. Marcus. Maybe it's gonna
be a pushed towards not wanting but needed nuclear power
to generate enough endly gy. Well, that wouldn't work for
them because it's probably part of their mission statement. They
can't use nuclear these clean green places. Oh, Marcus, Oh, yes,

(47:36):
that's a good text, Marcus. Data centers will be targets
and drone warfare. I did was reading yesterday that did
you read that article about the Russian soldiers? The average
life expectancy on the front for a Russian soldier in
the war on Ukraine is now thirty minutes? Did you
read that? I thought, cheapest creepers. It's a pretty grim

(47:58):
job description. And I was reading today about the people,
the former acrobatic pilots or aerobatic pilots that are working
in the Ukraine flying and shooting down drones. Man, that's interesting.
Cheap keep you going for on a talk oh eight
hundred eighty to eighty nine nine two text. I think

(48:21):
I might have been acrobatic, but again in touch if
you want to hittle. Twelve oh eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty. Emergency services are attending a serious crash that
has blocked the southbound lane of State Highway One at Tawa.
The crash involved a car in a truck, happening about
ten past eight between Transmission Gully and the Tawa Granada

(48:43):
North off ramp. This seems to have wrestled it to
what happened a week ago. One person is in critical condition.
The serious question it will be carrying out a scene examination.
If you are Johnny on the spot or carry on
the corner and have no some information about that for
us let us know, because I'll let you know where
the best place to get off the motorway is. Because
last week was it last Tuesday? Do you remember Dan?

(49:06):
Last week? Felt I was earlier on in the week.
But people were stuck in cars for a long long time.
They got caught there and it was very hard to
get out and someone died there too. Let's not forget
that too. It was a tragic accident. But I'm on
the internet now and I'm looking at what it's the
information I have got. So State Highway too has closed
it not on the off ramp because of roadworks on

(49:27):
and that's not for now. No, I'm not sorry. Here's
the one. There's three on that section of myway. Three
warnings due to a crash. State Highway one is closed
from Mungarvin in to change a talent to change for
southbound road users. Please note northbound remains open, so southbound
get off at Mungeven Mungarvin mungeven, hold your horses, Sully

(49:51):
with you soon twenty past nine? Oh wait, one hundred
and eighty today, yere nine two nine to detect. Surely
it's Marcus.

Speaker 16 (49:57):
Welcome Marcus. I won't mention any names, but I am
in a bit of a pickle and I'm wondering whether
any of the z BE listeners have had the same problem.
I was holidaying in the South Island. I had a
major breakdown that was repaired in the South Island. I've
come back to the North Island and my repair that

(50:18):
was done mechanically in the South Island has failed. I've
done six thousand kilometers. My one year warranty expired three
weeks ago. To the listeners, I wonder where does the
Consumer Act come in? And does the public liability come
in with the company that carried out the work?

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Okay, a lot to unpicked there.

Speaker 16 (50:42):
Does that make sense to you?

Speaker 5 (50:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Yeah, I thought of Yeah.

Speaker 16 (50:46):
I don't want to the local people where I live.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Okay, Can I just go back to the Can I
just go back to the beginning. So you're in the
South Island.

Speaker 11 (50:55):
Yes, what sort of car?

Speaker 16 (50:57):
It's a motor home?

Speaker 15 (50:58):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (50:59):
And what happened? How old.

Speaker 16 (51:00):
Is it two thousand and.

Speaker 10 (51:05):
Eighteen?

Speaker 16 (51:05):
I think twenty.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Nineteen six seven eight years old? Okay? And it broke down?
What went wrong with it?

Speaker 16 (51:13):
I it was a glutch, a clutch and a brake problem.

Speaker 5 (51:18):
Sure, and I couldn't drive it.

Speaker 16 (51:20):
I had to have it trucked to a company in
the South Island and then it was fixed.

Speaker 10 (51:26):
I drove home.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
I had a company or a big company.

Speaker 16 (51:29):
A big, big, huge company.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Okay, and you had it fixed.

Speaker 16 (51:33):
I had it fixed.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
And then did you drive it back or what was
taken out?

Speaker 14 (51:37):
No?

Speaker 16 (51:37):
I drove it back and I've driven six thousand kilometers
on the new parts and now they've failed. I've had
to be trucked again back to an apier, and now
I have a problem. Who is going to take the
responsibility of fixing it and giving me some relief of

(51:59):
the financial side of having to have it done? And
I have had a chat to a local person who
is all a reputable business and they're talking to me
about the Consumer Act and the public.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
So sorry, how do we know that this is the
same fault that they tried to fix that.

Speaker 16 (52:19):
I had it analyzed today?

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Who analyzed it?

Speaker 16 (52:22):
The agents that produced the motors, so that the agent
I was advised by the company in the South Island
they wouldn't listen to a conversation unless it was through
the proper channel, which was the agents that I took
it to to get a description of what the problem was.

(52:43):
The problem is the same problem that.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
I had in So you approached the South Island people
for read for compensation, Yes, and they said it's not
us getting approved what they.

Speaker 16 (52:55):
Getting approved from another agent from another town, and which
I did. So I've been and done all of that.
The agent in the North Island is talking to the
agent in the South Island, and I'm to be the
mediator in the middle. But I'm unafraid of making the
wrong decision without getting other people's opinions of a predicament

(53:18):
that they may have been in at the same time.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
So the person in the North Island you got to
check out your car thought the South Island company was
it fault? Is that right?

Speaker 16 (53:27):
Yes, they're having a discussion. They don't know whether it
is a part fault or a labor fault. But whatever
kind of fault it is, I need it fixed. I
don't feel like paying as much money as I did
it again.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
How much was how much was it? Eight thousand and
was insurance?

Speaker 8 (53:46):
It had had.

Speaker 16 (53:48):
A warranty of a year with the company that they
had it done in the South Island. But does the
consumer cover anything done three weeks after the yearly warranty?

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Okay, so it's gone a year in three weeks, it's
prepped out again.

Speaker 16 (54:04):
And when does a consumer act coming to it? And
when does the company accept the responsibility of it and
claim on their public liability?

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Okay, you've been quite clear. We'll find out for you.

Speaker 15 (54:17):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
If you're not going to answer, Shirley, please get us
through eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine text. Oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. By the way, Victor Willis
was the cop and the sailor. Yep, met his wife
during the Whiz which you might remember he was married

(54:38):
to Clear Huxtable from the Cosby Show. We're talking data
centers in Shirley's dilemma. David's Marcus good Evening.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Yeah, Hi, you've thrown me up a little bit with
this Shirley's dilemma. I wonder if she's approached to people
who originally done the work on that vehicle.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Well, I think it did get complicated quite quickly. But
someone will look at listening better than I did. But
I think that she did approach them, but they denied that.
They said she needs to get some of the northlid
to look at it.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
And how many k's had she done since? Wonder that anyhow?

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Thought?

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Yeah, well, no, no, no, it's not God.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
It was the clutch, wasn't it, Dave, Yes.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Yes, yes, yes, that's right, riding the clutch. Yes, And
I won't mention. Yeah, we'll get off of that. We'll
get back to where I was thinking.

Speaker 20 (55:23):
Now.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
I have been sitting here thinking about your subject, the
computer data centers, and.

Speaker 14 (55:29):
That that absorbs power.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
We allow potential for an artificial entity to spread, learning itself,
to become independent without human masters or control, manipulate his
own destiny, destiny of itself and ours, our future. I
wonder if we're allowing for these computers and an artificial
intelligence that I think we've got to keep in check

(55:54):
very much.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
So the robots are coming.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Yeah, well, I know I realize this, Markeuts, and I
think we've got to be aware of this. Now, these
data centers, I'm not sure of what actually data we're
trying to store, and whether it's going to impinge on
us here well and allow this AI business to spread
and spread almost unchecked, and we're allowing this to happen.

(56:21):
I think we've got to be more aware, Marcus, of
this business of artificial intelligence, etc.

Speaker 14 (56:28):
And data that it could become out of hand.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Good leave it there day, But thanks so much of that.
If you got breaking news thatster no what's happening. There's
also a very serious instant. Apparently in the suburbs of
in Vericago were large numbers of police and ambulance outside
a residence. Now I have got the more information about that,

(56:52):
the crime scene with people in white suits going in
and out of a house. So just putting out, putting
that out there, that is happening. Surely, surely it's a
good song. What was it? Billy braggsong? Do you remember
that one? Surely? Now? How did that one go? By

(57:15):
the way? Anyway, some texts about Shirley. It's interesting that
the woman the motorhomer is holding the South Island fault
rather than particular mechanics that did the work. It is
irrelevant which island this occurred in. Perhaps the fault is
the way she drives some people are hard on the clutch.
That's from Kate. I thought she was kind of fee
with what she said. I don't think she was disparaging

(57:39):
the South Island mechanics as soon as she said South Island,
thinking is that where the chicken salters? But someone else
said parts and labor is normally three months in New
Zealand one year in Europe. Hi the yes, the consumer
guarantee X covers your problem even though the year has passed.
Fire acclaimed the disputes. Try bunal. Both the filing and
the hearing can be done from home. Someone says to

(58:05):
you and your fellow knightshif ZB producers have a Bruce
Russell sweepstake, like who's going, Oh yeah, who's going to
die at work? No, we haven't had one of those,
but thank you for that, Aduena says, tell Shirley the
Commerce commissioners excell for these kind of disputes. Probably better
than talk back because you can get judgment. Marcus, what

(58:26):
he means is that robots will build their own data centers,
thus humans will be obsolete. So we are talking your
thoughts on data centers is a straightforward question. Do you
have an opinion? On data centers. So they cost a
lot of money. They use an extraordinary amount of electricity,
and they produce data storage, and they produce heat, and

(58:48):
they produce noise, and that is it. And the noise
is mitigated by tall fences and the heat is mitigated
by water cooling. But I'm often thinking about you know,
they always had there were saying, yeah, we're putting up
so many wind farms and protests about wind farmers, and
but then we've got the use for the anocrisy is
to X bought data storage. So if you got to

(59:08):
comment on that, that's what we're about tonight. A lot
of texts about that, So keep those going. I don't
know what people mean about you. Well, I guess they
will be vulnerable to drone attacks. Someone said Tarras would
be better for a data storage facility than an airport
built below ground. It would be safe from central Otago
heat with water to cool it, and could be taken

(59:30):
from the cloth and redirected back to the cloth of
this minimizing effective river flow. Also, on winter, that cold
central Otaga air could be used as a heat sinc
to aid cooling, and it tristy is still needed, but
there's wind sole and hydro to be further developed there.
The question is how it is using and going to
develop everything so it becomes an ongoing resource for us.
So yeah, I don't know how far below the ground

(59:53):
you'd have to build it in central to actually not
do heaps of because if you're building it underground, that's insulated,
so you'd still need to cool it because your heat's
not going to dissipate. Marcus. I didn't assure you can
get information from the Consumer's Institute, but you have to
be a member. I paid fifteen dollars for a month
rang spoke with them. They were so helpful. They can
help me with your rights. You then get the fact

(01:00:15):
and take it from there. I don't know that. I
think that might be the Consumer magazine, not the Consumer Institute.
But we are talking if anyone's got any opinion, because
I know there's a lot of happening online about people
discussing discussing that. Someone says data centers in space are
the solution. Yes, in space or underwater, but I think
we're probably twenty years away from them. And I guess

(01:00:37):
the good thing about data centers is once they are
done with they can take all their racks of storage
and we can use them for lockups for our boats
and our jet skis. Everyone always needs sheltered, covered storage,
don't they, because everyone's got too much stuff. So yes,
this is your chance to talk about your love or
your concerns about data storage. Oh wow, this is an

(01:01:01):
amazing story. Thank you ste three Faro. The inter islander
Utter Teddy is due at Bavadna, India at two a m. Tomorrow.
That is great news. So they've been a board for
eight months, those sailors on thirty dollars a month or
something terrible and it's going to be scrapped and they're
anything lessen twenty one away from Tean. Hello markets, Marcus,

(01:01:24):
Welcome you.

Speaker 11 (01:01:26):
Marcus. Look, I've been fascinated with the data center sort
of idea for a fair while, just in terms of
as a resource for New Zealand to be involved in.
When the smelter people threatened to go, I was like, fine, well,
data center off the end of Lake Manapuri, right, because

(01:01:46):
obviously that's what you do, and it sounds like that
sort of could occur, And that's something I think is
something we should look at and go, Okay, how do
we keep it cool. We've got a lot of options
here in New Zealand. We could go high in the mountains,
we could go deep underground. We could put it at
the bottom of a fjord. We can do all sorts

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of things in terms of as you say, twenty years
down and down the track technology. We're also really safe.
We're incredibly safe. Our climate is pretty good. We're a
good sort of stable environment. Our cables that we run
very stable. The cables that leave New Zealand out of

(01:02:28):
well one leaves off Takapuna Beach, for example, and that's
that's an incredibly effective cable. I was just looking at
the map before before we started talking, and I was thinking.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
Research is the call, isn't it. I like that.

Speaker 11 (01:02:46):
If you get a run one out of Manapuri, I'd
say you'd just go over the hill, just quickly bring
that thing that I saw Percy pass Road over the
top of down into Doubtful Sound and out via the
out via the mouth of the Sound across to Tasmania.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
I just need to tell you, as a as a
result of the Stata storage they're putting in McRee where
they are putting new cables in, there's going to be
a cable that's going to go from there's going to
go a cable that's going to go from inver Cargol
across to Melbourne. So there's going to be more cables
so you can get the data out of there. So
it's going to be a great data loop. It's called
the Tasman Ring Network, a high fiber count subsea cable.

Speaker 14 (01:03:29):
Oh well, that's fantastic, although.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
It's hard for them to do it because there's a
Obviously it's hard to book a cable laying ship because
everyone's laying cables.

Speaker 14 (01:03:40):
Yes they are.

Speaker 11 (01:03:40):
And also you probably need probably need to pick a
down that end of New Zealand. He'd be weather dependent
in terms of a season, because you wouldn't want to
go down there this time of year.

Speaker 9 (01:03:51):
I should imagine.

Speaker 11 (01:03:53):
I'm not familiar with the ocean conditions to end, but
I'm pretty stuck.

Speaker 15 (01:03:56):
Pretty crap.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
It's like a pond. It was like a pond today.
Literally there was not a breath of wind.

Speaker 11 (01:04:03):
Must be it must be quite something the end there
when it's not must be quite sharpen. Do you associated
with bad weather anyway? But no, look a great concept.
I think it's something that if we can make, if
we can be a data hub.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Is it a shape to use such hard worn power,
hard earned power on something that seems so unproductive.

Speaker 11 (01:04:26):
Well, I think it could be very productive.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
It was not like making aluminium or cars or clothes,
or heating heating tunnel houses to grow tomatoes.

Speaker 11 (01:04:37):
It's just data analysis.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
It's just for cat videos and AI. That's the bit
that that's the bit that troubles me is it's not
stuff we really need. We can't eat.

Speaker 11 (01:04:48):
The big grunt that will be used in the AI
systems you hopefully think is medical medical research.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
Are there we can securis and stuff will come from that,
There's no doubt yet.

Speaker 11 (01:05:00):
Yeah, And that's if we can be across that. As
I say, with our our provenance in terms of our
security and our stability and the want to be involved
as they go usually on the good place to host
that dar.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
We're going to commund to where do you live?

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
Mark Gamebridge in the work?

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
Are you aware that on July the thirteenth, New World
is launching smeag knives and they look good. They're in
your wheelhouse.

Speaker 11 (01:05:29):
I'm not getting sucked in, Margus.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
I'm ready. You will be sucked in, because if you
are going to do it, let me know and I'll
crowdsawce some stupid vouchers for you a case you're going
to be first to cash it in. Do you want
those stupid knives?

Speaker 15 (01:05:45):
Hell? Yea, let's go for it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
Have a look. Okay, and you ring now on the
thirteenth of July and say, if anyone's got spear, we'll
see them to Cambridge. Last time, last time you had
you last did you get anything in the end?

Speaker 11 (01:06:01):
I missed out on the good bits? Okay, I missed
I missed out on the good bits.

Speaker 15 (01:06:05):
So let's go for it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Let me know. Sixteen to ten, hold your horses, if
you're on holder. If you want to be on hold,
get in touch. Fourteen to ten. Hello, Miket's Marcus.

Speaker 15 (01:06:15):
Welcome, Hi, I guess thanks.

Speaker 8 (01:06:17):
I just want to have a chat about the data
centers like everyone else. Great, I just feel like there's
a bit of misinformation out there around what the data
centers are actually useful. Sure, so you mentioned cat videos.
I'm sure there's a few out there, but they're also
used those big companies like Amazon and Google. They rent

(01:06:40):
out space effectively in those data centers. And they rented
out to our banks, our insurance companies, places like Countdown,
like any of the big corporates that we've got in
New Zealand that we all enjoy some sort of service
from probably use those data centers. So the value of them,

(01:07:02):
you know, then it's just another export. At the end
of the day, it's just a big building that consumes
a lot of power, which they pay for, employees a
lot of people, and there's a lot of foreign investments
and around that. It's built a lot of infrastructure that
our New Zealand businesses can use. So I personally don't

(01:07:23):
see anything wrong for it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
I think if want understands it, I think mainly this
one will be for overseas clients because there's so much data.
It won't be it'll be certainly be well beyond what
New Zealanders use. The only thing I think probably that
I could that I could perhaps is not true is
I don't think that they create a lot of jobs
because once they're up and running, Once there's up and running,

(01:07:48):
there's not much to keep them going. Look, I think
the one that's proposed for South And I think it'll
important about employ about seventy people. Yeah, it'll use as
much power as Tey, which employed two thousand with contractors.

Speaker 8 (01:08:00):
So so the thing is, though, like, if it uses
as much as Tea, why if we've got that electricity generation,
how many people does that employ? Dividing them with the
power and the downstream impacts of all that, how many
jobs would the.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
Last time, last time I went to Metapurias been staffed remotely,
there was a guy in Kura running it. So they
run them. They run themselves, which are surprised to see.
So yeah, I don't well, I mean you've got your
people building your wind farms, haven't you.

Speaker 8 (01:08:29):
Yeah, I still think there's people that operate all that stuff, right,
there's still people at the end of end of the
day that gets employed. When you consume electricity, when you've
got a building on site, it still creates jobs. The downside,
heat and the noise. It's all about location. The one
thing I would to point out about location is what

(01:08:51):
these companies are looking for when they're building a data
center isn't just whether they can get rid of that heat.
It's also looking at the electricity supply and if it's
on multiple grids. But the biggest run around new Zealand
is natural perils they're looking at whether they're in flood
or earth quite good, good point. So a lot of

(01:09:14):
their decision thing around where they build is based on
redundancy and risk.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
So you don't want to be near the fault line,
I guess for the what do they call it? The
AF eight is what they're always are calling it. And
these things are please things are private companies. Providing you
get consent, you're good to go, providing you can actually
a piece of councils and everyone that you're going to
be within the power of your consent. For me, the greatest,
the greater question is what we should be doing with

(01:09:42):
our power?

Speaker 8 (01:09:43):
But yeah, that's that's a great question, right, like is
this the best use of the power? Very valid question.
I think the data centers them if we had enough supply,
then I don't think the data centers themselves are an issue.
I think the power supply is a completely different topic almost,

(01:10:04):
but it does sort of touch on.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
I just I think my probably my situation with them
as I I just understand why suddenly AI needs so
much data and storage. That's the thing I can't work
out because we seem to be doing so well with
no data storage is for the first fifty years of computers.
Then suddenly and to me, the computers aren't doing that

(01:10:28):
much more. But the I don't know, is it because
it's not about storing YouTube videos. It actually seems as
though this is about AI. So that's why I can't
work out. I can't work out. But that's not my job.
I mean, I don't doubt there is a need for it,
because Facebook and met and Meta and Microsoft are finding
so much money for these data centers, they must be needed.

(01:10:49):
There seems to be. There seems to be a total
obsession with it.

Speaker 8 (01:10:52):
Yeah, it's definitely exponentially growing demand, right, but where that
demand is grown from. I think a lot of it
is around probably that that high end computing. Like you say,
the world population isn't necessarily increasing fundamentally, our usage of

(01:11:13):
the Internet says though. The amount of things that we
put onto the Internet these days is a lot more.
It used to just be a computer in a home.
Now everyone's got a phone. Half of the switches and
the houses these days are connected to the Internet. The
growth is just exponentiale.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
Let's talk Mike, thanks so much. Eight away from ten
six to ten. Keep those texts coming through a lot
more discussion about Shirley. Their clutch Marcus clutch replacement fifteen
hundred to three and a half thousand shirty was ripped
off and now fobbed off. We don't know that because
this was in a camp of ven. You don't know

(01:11:52):
how much damage there was. Someone says, can't trust AI
or those large outfits tool who will use it. I
think that's a reason to stop them from coming here.
Pretty much the entire Internet and services on their relied
data CITTA, I think we know about that, and the
robots building their own. If you want to comment on

(01:12:12):
data centers, I just wonder if you've built be on
those websites. It's people are so opposed than what your
opposition is about, because it seems to be there are
a lot of comments on people that are opposed to
data centers. Now, there's also a lot of groups that
are opposed to ten eighty and five G and vaccines

(01:12:32):
and fluoride, and a lot of those comments seem to
be hysterical and not based in conventional science. I think
the concerns about data centers are slightly more grounded in reality.
They're concerned about noise, and about heat and about water
use and whether they are the best use for our power.

(01:12:55):
By the way, Victor Willis from the Village People has died.
I've interviewed him. I'm convinced now looking at him, I
don't fully know his backstory. Is a gospel singer from
ten he joined forces of the French producer Jacques Morale,
who told him I had a dream that you sang
lead on my albumt we Revery Big. The duo then
formed The Village People. The band seventy eight smash at

(01:13:17):
Ymca turned the band into global superstars, and he went
on to write a string of disco favorites, including Macho
Man in the Navy and Go West. I don't think
there'd be one person out there in listen Land that
couldn't do theirs to Ymca. He quit the band in
nineteen eighty before returning. He was the only original remember
remaining of the band, turing internationally with him right up
until his death. He had a falling out with Morale

(01:13:38):
it always happens, or maybe had some falling outs with
the other people in the band. Trump loved them. He
dressed as the cop and is the sailor interesting enough
just reading about the village people. I don't think they
ever appeared on The Simpsons, which is surprising, isn't it,
considering they were such a such a total and popular
culture with YMCA. I don't know why it's so good.

(01:14:01):
But if their stadium and they started doing that, you
do want to get up and make the letters, don't you?
How are you going people? What's happen up there? And listen Toland,
name is Marcus hittled twelve. You ought to be involved.
Oh we eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. We are
talking data centers and look, thank you for being so
considered with your discussion. I found people have been quite

(01:14:22):
largely reasonable. But if you want to comment on whether
you think there are going to be a good addition
to New Zealand, because there's some very very big one
is about to be built, and your reaction to that,
it's what we are talking about. And Shirley and her
clutch was complicated. A camper van broke down the South Island.
She got it fixed, it was eight thousand dollars. Then

(01:14:43):
she went to the North aled Island and it bust
one year three weeks later. I guess if you're retired
and your Cambra van as your world. That's a big deal.
I don't know much about clutches. Would all camper vans
be manual? These are things I can't answer. So get
in touch Marcus till twelve. Anything else you want to
mention tonight good also too. This is the day in

(01:15:07):
nineteen seventy nine that the Walkman was released. Love a Walkman.
I still would put that up at the top ten
inventions ever. But change the way people lived. I don't
know what would be number one. I don't know what

(01:15:31):
would be number one, but it's a big deal. It's
a great thing, and that everyone had them, people were
jogging with them. Then there was one you go under
water with the waterproof walkmen. They're great things. So you've
got some discussion about that come through too, but mainly
it's about data centers also too. There's been extent on

(01:15:52):
State Highway One near Tawer. Get off at Porty Door,
I imagine, and they're go over Howard tell her, They say, hey, oh,
do go on the coast road.

Speaker 20 (01:16:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
I don't know the solution there. What are you saying?

Speaker 10 (01:16:03):
Down?

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
Get off at Putty and it's southbound. I think it's blocked.
But if you've got some information, they let us know.
But look, all the lines are free. You want to
come through. Have done pretty well so far, so you
knock yourselves out if you want to talk on air.
That's the plan. Hitd on midnight and the Village People,
the original founding member of the Village People has died.
Trump loved them. And Trump did that great dance to

(01:16:24):
the Village People where he'd hold his hands and his
thumbs out and his elbows would come right close into
his chest, the side of his chest, and he just
moved his little arms like a t rex. One of
the great distinct dance styles of a present would be
Trump's and sort of go side, very easy to sort
of go side by side. Loved it or who wouldn't,

(01:16:47):
but yeah, there we go. Also this day, in nineteen
oh eight, so S is adopted as the International Distress
signal and the very first version of the Tour de
France ninety oh three. I don't know what sort of
bikes they would have used. Will they be Penny Farthings?
Probably not they were. Probably would they have had gears?

(01:17:08):
Probably I'm looking at a bike now, single gear steel
bikes that lacked freewheels. They weighed thirty five pounds to
forty pounds, so carry them up the hills, I would imagine. Well,
on the early days most of the riders smoked. The
wheels were often made of wood. Yeah, e very hard
to slowe downhill on a fixie. You probably drop it

(01:17:31):
on its side and ride it like a sled if
you came into trouble. It's a great thing. But look,
the lines are free. Thirteen past ten. What are your
thoughts on data storage and data centers? You got any idea,
you got any views? That's the main topic. The subsidiary
topics are the village People and Walkman. I think the

(01:17:57):
village people offer to often toured U see, and that's
my understanding. I don't know when the last time they
would have come here, so that's what we're on about tonight.
Did they play I felt they might have played the mission.
There was a movie cold Can't Stop the Music, David
in a movie The Village People that was huge nowhere
except Australia. Watch that tonight to remember them. The great

(01:18:20):
the great songs, the bangers, Banjas can't stop the music.
They're all in that you might want to ring up
and tell me the plot of that. I don't remember.
It makes you NOTTONI. I was sure that I've ever
seen it. It did have all the hits in it,
genuinely negative reviews from critics got all the raspberries Worst Picture,
Worst Director, Worst Actor, Worst Actress. Caitlyn Jenna was in it.

(01:18:40):
Of course, Caitlyn Jenna was in it on the back
of huge Olympic success and that the Kathleen Michael, It's
Marcus good evening, goody good Michael.

Speaker 21 (01:19:00):
Jenny's bloody dartsing. I don't know if I like.

Speaker 7 (01:19:02):
Them eat it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
What are your thoughts?

Speaker 15 (01:19:04):
I mean, because I'm just wondering.

Speaker 21 (01:19:08):
Obviously it's for the AI and that, but what are
they actually what else are they keeping tads on? You know,
if they're sort of having that much thinking power?

Speaker 8 (01:19:16):
I suppose it's interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
It's interesting. So your your opposition isn't to them as
such and what they do, but the fact that this
people keeping keeping the hold of data on you.

Speaker 21 (01:19:27):
I mean, I think it's pretty stupid that they chew
up so much bloody water to keep them cold. But
what do you do? You know, Yeah, if they have
to be there if that's the only way to call them,
you know, yeah, I mean we can barely get a
drink in a lot of countries around the world for
bloody what's it called water rich and your helling?

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
Are you worried about your data?

Speaker 7 (01:19:50):
I mean yeah, I.

Speaker 21 (01:19:51):
Mean, jesus, what are they looking at my Google history?

Speaker 8 (01:19:53):
How far back does that go?

Speaker 3 (01:19:54):
But do you have you ever thought of not googling
that stuff?

Speaker 21 (01:19:58):
I mean, you know, when you're lonely and I may sometimes,
you know, get the better of you.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
But that's the thing, isn't it. I mean, the thing
is that they're only grabbing your data because you're using
their devices and their and their software.

Speaker 21 (01:20:15):
Well, yeah, it'spending all my bloody data, Sasion Marcus slash Mood.

Speaker 5 (01:20:18):
I suppose yeah, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
Think it's so much, would you be ai? I think I.

Speaker 19 (01:20:22):
Made those are the wrong word?

Speaker 21 (01:20:23):
Weren't they.

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
Get kicked off the work computer? Thank you? Michael Lively?
They're fifteen past ten. Oh wait, one hundred and eighty
today at nineteen nine to de textie un a cup
through breaking news. When that happens tonight two people crash
on Tawa. Tim dot com has lost his lads extradition
faces thirty years Jewish jail time. I don't think that's
ever going to happen, is it?

Speaker 6 (01:20:47):
Still?

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
The media's obsession with the mitchelland Guide goes on and
on and on. We're now looking at who got snubbed.
Oh yeah, I'm not quite sure what that's about. I
noticed there was no restaurants south of Queenstown and nothing
from Hamilton. How many times we've heard that Hamilton's the
future of dining out? Nothing? Oh well, next time, I
guess I'll go there. So there we go. There's that

(01:21:08):
also tonight. But be in touch of you on Air
eight hundred and eighty to data centers and the village people,
Marcus Workman are the number one invention good call. Once
a bus load of Scots boys all had warpmen going
from the train station to Strathmore. Everyone was listening to
Supergroove with Megabase on gold Touch Togetherness. Marcus. I read
today from a rabbit holeer that housing a data center

(01:21:30):
would make us a target if we were at war. Well,
I imagine if you were into doing something and wanted
to disrupt. If you want to disrupt the world, I
think attacking data centers would be I don't know. I
guess you have to back everything up, would you. No,
village people have never done the mission they should have.

(01:21:50):
Can you imagine those boomers dancing around the wicker hamper
to village people. Godness me on the Giblet gravels. That
would have been fantastic. That's the greatest crime. They never
did that, Marcus. My consumer data centers is the high
usage of power and the effect this will have one
house on power prices. Chet GPT uses ten times the

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amount of power compared to with Google Search. I believe
the quantum computer system will supersed AI. Now there's a
word here and someone's texted in the early years the
writers of the Tour of France. We're allowed to use
coc hise to exist them with the helly conditions, and

(01:22:34):
I can't even look what keyboards are there for what
that word is, Marcus. They are surveillance centers, not data centers.
They'll be used to collect our own information where we
go and what we do. There will be no privacy anymore,
chairs John. I think most of the data is overseas data.
We're just storing it. We've probably got very little need
for data in this country because there aren't many of us,

(01:22:57):
but come on, if you want to talk any about
this or anything else, that's the plan tonight. O wait,
data and the Village People and the movie can't stop
the music and anything else. That's it's got your talkback
fenty to night. We've done well for two hours with
calls and now I'm going to cruise. But it's up
to you if you want to say something interesting. I
can't stop singing Village People in my head, young man,

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Do Do Do? Must have made a fortune?

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
Eh?

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
And that would be the most played song at sports
events or it's always that or we other champions or
another one by to the dust, isn't it? It's Queen
and the Village People endlessly must be the most played song.
And as far as getting an audience up and going,
it's that and Sweet Caroline and the Macarna, which is

(01:23:44):
a great song. Eh, mac Arena? What year was that?

Speaker 10 (01:23:50):
Big?

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
Would be ninety five or something. Surprised I didn't mesh
up the two. That would be a good thing. It's
one of fewer than forty singles to have sold over
ten million copies worldwide. YEP, and the Grammy Hall of
Fame in twenty twenty one million streams on Spotify. Why
regard as one of the most played songs in public

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spaces such as stadiums, clubs, and ceremonies due to its
universally recognizable arm spelling dance. I've never heard it called that,
but that's what it isn't is arm spelling. Cheaper scriepers
never heard it called arm spelling. That's exactly what it is.
I can't even think of another arm spelling dance. Can

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you think of one? I can't, and it's not the
macro rainer, Eh mac Arena. I've googled that, and the
only song that's come up under popular arm spelling dancers
as the YMCA. On the spelling deb I wouldn't do
a spelling deb twenty one past nine if you want

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to past ten, if you want to come through twenty
five past ten, Ray, this is Marcus.

Speaker 4 (01:24:59):
Welcome, Hello, Marcus, Hi, how are you good?

Speaker 22 (01:25:02):
Thank you good Marcus. I bring you on occasion. I'm
a great history nut. Some people would say I'm a
nut full stop, but I'm a history nut. And I
remembered when I woke up this morning that today, one
hundred and ten years ago, the first of July nineteen
sixteen was the first day of the Battle of the Somme,
where the British army suffered something like sixty thousand casualties

(01:25:25):
in one day. And you know, say, I know the
First World War has finished long ago, all of the
men are gone, but I just felt that that should
be recognized. I don't think well New Zealanders would have participated,
but not actually as troops as such, but there would
have been bound to be in New Zealanders there. So
I just felt that that should be recognized.

Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
And how many days ago, for one hundred eight and
oh something, Yes, I think it went to November, and
I think it.

Speaker 22 (01:25:53):
Only the amount of all heat out.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
The amount of land was about twenty miles by six miles,
that's how much those think about a million people would
have died in the end.

Speaker 22 (01:26:03):
Yes, yeah, And the British were told that the artillery
bombardment had smashed the German defenses. The Germans weren't there.
They could basically the British soldier could put his rifle
over his shoulder, light his pipe and walk across no
man's land. And of course when they got there they

(01:26:23):
found that that wasn't such. The case, the Germans had
built some very effective bunkers and when the bombardment stopped,
they came out and manned their machine guns. I just
you know, my wife Ring Marcus, So.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
Did the British government deliberately misinform their troops, their commanders
or did they not know what the German had The
Germans had that advancement.

Speaker 22 (01:26:49):
I think it was basically just sort of an over
optimistic belief in the fact that artillery could smash anything.
And they basically the sort of the shells they were
using a lot of them with shrapnel shells, and they
didn't actually destroy the German wire. So many of the
men came up to find the German wire was almost
completely intact.

Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
But it sound growing.

Speaker 22 (01:27:13):
Yes, So anyway, I just to say, I know you
have a belief in history, so I just felt it
should be recalled one and.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
One hundred and ten years ago today, right.

Speaker 22 (01:27:21):
Ten years ago today, first of July and nineteen sixteen.

Speaker 3 (01:27:24):
Thanks so much, ra I appreciate that. Coming through that
twenty seven past ten, I will look two thy one
hundred Kiwis died there, six thousand wounded. That's the New
Zealand Division, the Battle of the somme. Half of those
news enders that died have no known grave. So that's
a situation there. I was going to say something else

(01:27:45):
on the back of that. I forgotten what that was.
Oh by the way, too, Also, the price of a
letter has gone up. What is it? Three dollars sixty
three dollars seventy Quite a bit of outrage about that.
Forget your data centers? How much to post a letter? Anyway? Marcus?
Why does the iHeart app chue through the phone battery
compared to Apple Music Link. We're just wondering. Data center

(01:28:08):
is all good? I can imagine a job in a
data center, easy airs. All you do is you wander
around with a remote and turn heat pumps on and off.
I reckon, check the kiddle, and make yourself a cup
of coffee. Wander around. Ah, you'd probably, I reckon. If
you're running a data center, you might have to do
you want to. You'd probably go around and lay rat
poison because you wouldn't want animals in there. They'd we

(01:28:30):
want to go to get out of the cold, go
for a warm corner, so you'd lay the poison. Check
the video cameras. I don't even know what maybe if
anyone's listening, working in a data center, what's it like?
Because image, there's very little to do there, like almost
nothing for every boring job working in a data center.
Oh what are you doing these days, Johnny? Are working

(01:28:51):
in a data center? Any good?

Speaker 15 (01:28:53):
Boring?

Speaker 10 (01:28:54):
Boring?

Speaker 3 (01:28:54):
And the real out hum always was that you say,
there'd be my take on that one. Now did the
Village people play? Did they play Hawks Bay? Did they
play the Mission? I don't know the answer to that.
I wish I did. But the trouble, well, the thing
is about a band, like the village people. The fact

(01:29:15):
that he's died won't be the end of them, because
it's not so much it's gonna who's going to inherit?
The uniform always good in a quiz about the different
members of the village people in the outfit to theay wore.
Now be in touch of you. I want to only
talk about data sent there's or anything else of you.
But if anyone's concerned by them, let me know now,
because I'm curious to know what people's major concern is.

(01:29:37):
Because there's so much chat on the Internet, and there's
always stories been pushed at overseas. Such and such has
been forced to close down. I'm sure a lot of
it's not true, but I like to know what you've
got to say about that. I'm no worried about Michael
Laws yet standing for White Tachi. No disc that was
announced like two days ago, but I think it's been speculation.
But you know, maybe he's negotiating where he ends up

(01:29:59):
on the list. I don't know he'd be high up.
I would think he'd be top three or even number
two on the back of what Shane Jones has done
with that trip, The Pricey Trip by the way too.
I was gonna say something. Someone said most of the
work at a data center would be dusting. You're probably right.
Someone said fitting for the nurses and the ed where
the patient died and the toilet this week after seven

(01:30:21):
hour eight That is disgusting, that story. I mean, the
one place you think you'd be safe or looked after.
Someone goes on and say this is the first instance
where neglect of sustainable staffing levels has had such a
terrible outcome in my fifty years a nurse. I'm so
furious with the ducking and dive ins diving avoidance of
the sad state of health in New Zealand and the

(01:30:42):
person obviously for every sick being there nine year, nine
hours before they were seen. Marcus, it's the excessive water
and energy they use. They are unsustainable that Susan Jane,
thank you our talking data centers. You've got a comment
on those. Get in touch. That's what we're about tonight
and the Village People and Walkman the anniversary of the

(01:31:04):
Workman designed this day in nineteen seventy nine. I remember
seeing my first one at a school fair. I thought
jeepest creepers. Someone said their appearance went overseas.

Speaker 20 (01:31:13):
That year.

Speaker 3 (01:31:13):
They got them a Walkman and a Swatch because watches
were big deals. They were those plastic watches that looked
sort of very exciting at the time. Now, if there's
something else you want to talk about, twenty tweleven. I
don't mind begging on about stuff, but I'd like to
hear from you, because, oh, Anne Shirley's clutch are all

(01:31:35):
camp a Van's manual. I don't know what to say
about it. I don't know a huge amount about fixing cars.
I don't know if that's I don't know how the
clutch would go. You want a clutchless one, what you
want is an electric campavan. China's doing some very very
good ones now they'll be the future. Just plug them
in and you're good to go, no clutch, no problems.

(01:31:58):
So that's something you might want to mention also. But yes,
as you said, data centers and anything else hit Tel
twelve oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine two.
If someone's asking for the jobs that data centers would
be skilled, I imagine they wouldn't be. But that's what
we're on about. There's something else you want to talk about.

(01:32:20):
I'll check some more topics at you. But these are
good ones we've got to hear. I just thought there
would be more. I would imagine in six months time
there's going to be a lot of people going on
about data centers as they start, or maybe not. There
could be some more tricks and turns in the story.
Trump made more than a billion in crypto in the
first year of the second term as president. All right,

(01:32:40):
for some I don't know what you want to say
about that. About crypto, I think is he designed his
own kind of currencies. I think you just make your
money in the beginning of those. But yes, there's other
topics you've got or you want to mention. Then it's
also good to hear from you tonight, as I say,
I've given you my my lot for tonight. Oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty and nine two nine two to

(01:33:02):
text get in touch here till twelve. Shureley has come
back and she said her clutch was automatic. So there
you go, Marcus. Most Camper vans are automatic. Surely should
trade hers in, Marcus, I thought, surely, said breaking clutch.
I think she did great tonight, Niri, thank you once again.

(01:33:22):
The politicians and health using and top dogs. Our main
hospitals don't have enough beds to cope with increasing population.
Choosing a new village purse would be like choosing a
new wiggle. That's right, as long as you fit the uniform.
Would the data seem to you feel they will stitch
up a check power deal and then we'll pick up
the slack. Surely that would have to be protected in legislation.

(01:33:45):
I still have my Sony Walkman in the case you
used to listen to you. Instead of listening through the
iHeartRadio app, I can place seeds. Also, sometimes it's nice
to be old school. Die masterton Thank you Die need
your calls three and three away from eleven head of
the end, the Bitter End maneamers, Marcus welcome, Oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty Come on. Can data senders and
big companies invest in win mills? Will solar power solar

(01:34:08):
panels on two square kilometers produce their own power? I
think that's what they are doing. I think there's big
power companies going down in South and to help them
with their data center. I think a lot of it
will be win power. By the way, Tim beverage is
long after twelve o'clock tonight. Have you booked yourselves into
one of those Mitcheland Star restaurants? Booked yourself for a
four hundred and fifty dollars tasting menu? Oh yeah, I

(01:34:32):
think that's what the one at Essence is. It's only
been around since last September. It's quite a new restaurant,
that one. I can't even quite work out from Google
Maps where it is. Someone says swatches are back in fashion.
Good listing on my old battery powered transistor. It's portable
without walking and was useful the cyclone wind no power
or mobile phone coverage. Don't laugh at the old tech

(01:34:56):
full moon tonight there's a topic. Someone says, the full
moon last night. I reckon it's always the full moon
for two nights. That's my unpopular opinion. It feels more
food full tonight tonight than last night. So it's data
centers and the village people. What they called arm talking?
Is that what they called it? Then arm spelling. There'd

(01:35:20):
be the three greatest songs for arm spelling or doing
things with the arm would be the Macaraina, Ymca and
the Hoky Toky. Maybe my take on that you put
your left hand in now if there's anything else that
you've got to mention tonight, As I say, I've done
well till now. Now I think I need your calls. People,
come on, you might be driving, you might want to

(01:35:40):
change in tech. It be all nice to hear from you.
World Cup Mexico are through France dazzled. I think England
plays soon. The Congo in Mexico. There was a mess
fan celebration to our dead. England might play tomorrow if
the English want, and let's know how you think they're

(01:36:01):
going to go, that would be of interest to me.
Everything's of interest tonight. I always say that, don't I
But yes, that's I don't know when that English matches.
You might know more about that. Is it in the
morning four I am tomorrow morning, so just just five
and put them against DC Congo. It's five and a
half hours away, so that might be worth staying up

(01:36:22):
for if you're going to do that. And there is
a Legally Blonde prequel without Reese Witherspoon, I'll probably watched that,
to be fair, watched both Legally Blonde Free Good. I'm
not too I'm man enough to admit enjoyed that very is.
It's the situation now. If there's anything else you want
to talk about, Oh sick of saying that? Actually come

(01:36:42):
on nineteen to eleven, he till twelve. Marcus Victor from
The Village People is the only straight one in the group,
which was pretty hard for me to listen to because
of peer pressure from my oldest straight many siblings. I
listened anyway, end up getting teased a lot. There we go.

(01:37:04):
So the lead singer and their originator of the Village
People has died from a sun after a sudden illness
at the age of seventy five. Because they performed with
Trump quite recently at his inauguration when Trump did that
funny dance with his elbows beside his chest in the
moving of the hands when they go back and forward.
It's one of the great things, is Trump dancing. I

(01:37:25):
reckon it brings me great joy. Brettet's Marcus welcome, Yes, Marcus,
greave me. Norway, So Norway are through? Who did they
beat that?

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
Or?

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
I don't think they've ever been this far in the
tournament before. I don't even know if they've been to
the tournament before.

Speaker 14 (01:37:51):
No, No, they're ranked lower than Sweden. They well, Sweden
got beaten by France too, say Norway. But the lady
with the track, I feel we're really sorry for her.
You know, these mechanics, they can char it, but you've
got to work out how much the parts are you

(01:38:13):
going to really keep an eye on them. But it
seems very excessive to me, for you know, they have
just pulled up the transmission fluid.

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
Oh yeah, but but I always have the feeling now
that most trades people are pretty legitimate, aren't they.

Speaker 14 (01:38:32):
Well, if it was a clutch, I know you, I
don't know about a cruck, but it wouldn't be more
than a thousand dollars surely for the whole clutch system.

Speaker 3 (01:38:40):
I think it was clutching break.

Speaker 14 (01:38:42):
But I said before it was automatic.

Speaker 3 (01:38:45):
Yeah, okay, I don't know why it hasn't lasted that long.
It was a year and three weeks, which seems unfortunate.

Speaker 14 (01:38:50):
Yeah, there's there's some sort of a transmission that's even simpler.

Speaker 3 (01:38:55):
Okay, are you a mechanics.

Speaker 14 (01:38:59):
Well, I know a bit about cars because I bought
a car one time and they said all the transmission stuff,
and I go, was it? So I carried it down
the road and put some transmission fluid and the great.

Speaker 3 (01:39:11):
Story, great story, what a legiend. Ross. It's Marcus. Welcome Oho,
Hi Ross Evening.

Speaker 11 (01:39:18):
Yeah, I've got another one here to add to your
dance songs.

Speaker 4 (01:39:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:39:23):
Agado Oh, Now, I don't know what you do to that.

Speaker 11 (01:39:26):
You just yeah, push pineapple shake the tree. It's sort
of a yeah. If you type them to Google you'll
see them or YouTube somewhere, you'll see them all in
a line doing agado.

Speaker 3 (01:39:38):
Do do do? Push pineapple shake that?

Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:39:41):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:39:44):
It's Lacey. Where would I come across that?

Speaker 15 (01:39:48):
We used to have it in our jukebox. I got
sick of it in the end.

Speaker 11 (01:39:52):
We used to have We've got that that And if
you wanted to clear everybody out and make them go home,
you'd play Rolph Harris's Steaway to Heaven.

Speaker 3 (01:40:01):
Oh yes, And.

Speaker 11 (01:40:03):
On the other side of the forty five was some
stair Away to Heaven by the doors.

Speaker 3 (01:40:09):
Yes, yes, it's not. You can't really talk about rol
Harris is great. I was a great fan of the
counter king Correcticus. But that's now.

Speaker 10 (01:40:19):
Yeah, that was a good one.

Speaker 3 (01:40:20):
It's a terrible sight. It's a terrible looking song, ad,
wasn't it.

Speaker 11 (01:40:24):
Oh, we used to love it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
Where was the juke box still here?

Speaker 11 (01:40:30):
It's in the corner of the lounge. What Yeah, it's
in the corner of our lounge.

Speaker 3 (01:40:35):
Oh okay, you didn't have a bar or anything.

Speaker 11 (01:40:37):
No, no, no, no. We used to drink a lot,
but we don't now, so we don't play the jukebox.

Speaker 3 (01:40:43):
Was it coin operated?

Speaker 19 (01:40:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:40:47):
Well yeah, it was running on fifty cent pieces. But
just before the See CHRISTI earthquakes, it was in a
takeaway food bar near Littleton, and I bought it and
I converted it because fifty cent pieces went out at
that point, and I converted it to two dollar coins.

Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
Did Black lace have any other hits.

Speaker 11 (01:41:14):
I don't know, but that's the jukeboxes and a M
A M I row. Oh yeah, yeah American thing. Yeah,
I don't know. I think they did have other hits. Yeah,
I just can't think what they are at the moment.
But they're a bit of a nonsense new with me.

Speaker 3 (01:41:34):
That's sort of strong strong computerized beat or something.

Speaker 5 (01:41:38):
Oh well, there's another.

Speaker 11 (01:41:40):
There was another lot too. What was that one?

Speaker 19 (01:41:41):
That that one?

Speaker 11 (01:41:45):
Oh, they used to do all sorts of crazy songs.
Give me that ding? Who were they? Now? Give me
that ding and.

Speaker 19 (01:41:53):
Record for the whole in the medal and.

Speaker 11 (01:41:57):
Not tweetl D. I can't think of something we're going
to think about anyway.

Speaker 14 (01:42:06):
That one.

Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
Thank you, ros Loving Ago thirteen to eleven, Keep it going,
headled twelve. A very strong chance that Donald Trump will
probably insist that masks flags are half masked for the
village people's death. I would imagine. I'll keep you posted
ten away from eleven. Craigate's Marcus, good.

Speaker 6 (01:42:21):
Evening, good evening has again.

Speaker 3 (01:42:23):
Good Thank you Craig. How are you going all right?

Speaker 23 (01:42:25):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:42:25):
I can't complain so I god, God.

Speaker 6 (01:42:28):
Yeah, I've done quite a bit of work in Datusy
and it's they're really nice to work in during winter
because it's nice and warm. But the main reason why
I rang was a few years ago my partner's company
had a Christmas party had at one of these fresh
restaurants in Hamilton where it's one of those tasting menus.
There was like twelve courses that they brought out about
every fifteen minutes or so, and each course would have

(01:42:48):
been about that The plate was about the size of
a coffee mug, just the bottoms and the diameter of
it not very high at all. So I sit in there,
going this is really good. But they had an open
bar and a lot of these stuff were having beers
and cocktails, and because it took like three hours to
go through their whole menu and there wasn't a lot
of food, a lot of the stuff are gaining quite tips.
Because I was the I was the designated driver, like

(01:43:09):
save the driver from a partner. So that was all good,
but you could just watch them getting more and more
absolutely drunk because there wasn't a lot of food going down.
It was the small little menus.

Speaker 3 (01:43:18):
Extremely point was the cash bar or was the worker
company paying for the drinks?

Speaker 6 (01:43:23):
Company paying for it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:25):
That's a terrible combination. Terrible because people if it's free drinks,
people want to kind of drink. How much they think
they're underpaid. They want to get it down, don't they.

Speaker 6 (01:43:35):
Yeah, well, a few few years earlier, we had they
had She had the same sort of one at a
sports bar. Us are a sports club in Hamilton, and
it was an open bar as well, and had these
two big plastic forty four gallon drums by the tables
where you put your empty bottles in. And after a
few hours I both completely full of those ready to
drink mixes, and I was thinking, man, there's a lot

(01:43:56):
of alcohol going through this place. And yeah, you'd see
the state of the staff as they got more up
in toxicated. And during the end of the night her
boss tried to tried to get really close and personal
with me and had to push her away. She had
way too much to drink. But yeah, it's quite funny.
You go into the work if you do the next
week or so, and she'd see me and sort of

(01:44:16):
sort of blush and walk away if she remembered it all.
But yeah, it's it takes to mean it was okay,
But we ended up going getting subway after on the
way home because I'm still hungry.

Speaker 3 (01:44:26):
Jeepers and the boss putting the bike on you. Gee,
it's lots of n't picked for that. Craig eight away
from eleven Peter Ands, Marcus. Welcome, good evening, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:44:37):
Good evening, Marcus. This clutch your business. She hasn't stated
what sort of vehicle it is, but if it's an automatic,
it'll have a talk covert a not a clutch. Now
that would add up to eight thousand dollars easy, okay,

(01:44:58):
because clutch is on a manual transmission. But when you
go automatic you have a talk converter and they're very
expensive items.

Speaker 3 (01:45:11):
And her talk converter only lasted for one year and
three weeks. Would it have been installed wrongly?

Speaker 5 (01:45:18):
Well, I don't know, or it could be not sorts
of issues that can be the oil and can be
the filter blocked or yeah, well's I don't know that
she may not have got a might be a botch
up job or a second hand party or something. But

(01:45:41):
she should have got a guarantee on her with her
with a specialist transmission people where you go for auto transmission,
on those they'll give you a guarante for a guarantee.

Speaker 3 (01:45:56):
I think you had a year's warranty warranty pet which
doesn't that long, does it?

Speaker 5 (01:46:01):
No? No, not long really, but should not have gone
if really not. That's a very expensive item on the
pricings right at first eight thousand, but it should last
a lot longer than that, unless there's something else I

(01:46:25):
don't know. Well, possibly the oil or the incorrect oil
do it as well. But you shouldn't have had to
change the oil.

Speaker 3 (01:46:35):
What have they changed the oil when they changed the
talk thing?

Speaker 7 (01:46:39):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:46:40):
Yeah, definitely, Okay, it's a clinical thing. They change the oil,
they change a filter. There's a screen in there that's
all cleaned out. Definitely, they flush him out. Yeah, you
have to have a special transmission oil, can't just it's
a very yeah, specialist oil.

Speaker 3 (01:47:02):
Are you a mechanic?

Speaker 23 (01:47:04):
I was a diesel mechanic on tracks right. That'll do us,
and we had did a lot of truck transmissions here
in the day.

Speaker 8 (01:47:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:47:16):
Really appreciate you coming through, Peter. That's good enough for me.
That's well, if you're on the whole, I'll get you
after the news straight away. If you want to talk
on are great? Great? Great? Keep those texts. If you've
got texts, great, If you haven't, all good. Oh wait
one hundred eighty ten eighty Nutbush Ta Limits and Stenday

(01:47:39):
Night Fever both had hand dancing. Get in touch. If
you want to talk here till twelve, the number is
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you want to text,
it's nine to nine. Two emails Marcus at newstalksz'db dot
co dot Nz. Tim Beverage will be along at twelve.
I'm here until then. I want to talk to you
about data centers if that's your thing. If you've got
concerns about them, what are they? That's my major question.

(01:48:02):
If not, that's all good. I've just thought we'd better
discuss that tonight, and we have it. Enjoyed the discussion.
People seemed to have been mostly fear about them, not
too alarmed. But get in touch, open minded. That's what
you've got to be these days. Anyway, Come on head
or twelve o'clock, Pete, Marcus welcome, you know Marcus?

Speaker 19 (01:48:20):
Are you good?

Speaker 4 (01:48:20):
Thanks?

Speaker 3 (01:48:21):
Pete?

Speaker 20 (01:48:22):
Yeah, I was up in Hamilton there a couple of
weeks ago. You're sitting about whining and dining there and
basically they two days of the field days there. And
then I watched the game of rugby that Friday night
at the stadium. Then I thought, oh, come Saturday night.
I watched the old Hurricanes and the Blues. You ain't
give me a bit of an idea what the game
is going to be like the next night, you know,
the next week, you know, with the Hurricanes and the

(01:48:45):
Chiefs sort of thing.

Speaker 19 (01:48:45):
You know, so.

Speaker 20 (01:48:47):
You know Hamilton much at all? Yes, Yeah, they go
down Victoria Street, right down the bottom end. There's sort
of where all the pubs are and all that there
and that when that one little area work in the
bottom there, And I thought, oh, I'll go and try
to find a pub that the big screens on so
I can watch the game on, if you know, with
the old with the Hurricanes and the Blues. I was

(01:49:08):
looking around. Then I was walking walking on some bars there.
There wasn't much and then I asked a couple of
people on the street and like, I said, look like locals.
And I said, oh, you know, really good bar. I
was here to watch the rugby on on a big
screen over the commentary on. So yeah, I said, a
few places in one place here and the league was on,
so that was they were tading for the rugby. Obviously
far enough. So we walked on down and I came

(01:49:30):
across the hood street. It's called the House on the Hood.
If you look down up it's quite a nice place.
So I go on there and there's a big screens
around the bar and I said, oh, I'll go, and
I'll go and get a beer. I'll go and get
a beer. Walk up the barman there and I said, oh,
I have a handle, you know, just I load low
alcohol handles sort of thing.

Speaker 15 (01:49:48):
That was all right.

Speaker 20 (01:49:49):
Next minute gives you this s boody.

Speaker 7 (01:49:51):
Great big jug.

Speaker 20 (01:49:52):
I thought, oh wow, I said it's going to be.
But two hours didn't saying nothing. I'll just oh, I
said to myself, I just just take it. So I
just I just took it. That's why I said, you're
gonna turn the commentary up. See that was the right
and there's got to be a five minutes before and
to go find a table. The next minute of the
one of the waitress, and they sort of had all
the reserve I loof from this they had all the

(01:50:12):
reserve signs and all the tables, you know, and the
next one I was going. I was looking around. There's
no tables, and I said, the lady, have you got
to you got a place for me? And I'm here
by myself. I just want to watch the rugby of
the commentary and just watch the game basically. And then
this one she takes out, you ever been there at
the hood in Hamilton?

Speaker 3 (01:50:30):
Are you talking to me? Is this what you said
to her?

Speaker 20 (01:50:33):
No, I'm talking to you now living the hood.

Speaker 3 (01:50:36):
I can't wait. I'm loving this story. Nineteen dollars for
the for the jug of beer?

Speaker 2 (01:50:40):
Was it?

Speaker 20 (01:50:41):
Yeah, that's why that's about twenty four Funny John was
about that was about twenty four bucks.

Speaker 9 (01:50:45):
It's quite expense.

Speaker 20 (01:50:46):
I don't worry about that. I just paid it. And
but he got that wrong, so I thought, oh, I'll
just I took it anyway. And she finally took me
to this table was outside, and the ran outside. It's
one of the time, only two weeks ago. So the
next minute the game starts, no commentary on, and I
just persevered watching the game. And then about ten minutes
down the track, no comment tree. Next one and one

(01:51:07):
of these waitresses. There's one table in the middle there.
It was quite quite busy serving then it's fair enough.
And I said to one of the ladies, oh, I
think a batman, said he was going to put the
commentary on. You know, can you do that please, because
I'll come here. I've brought a hand. I told her
about that I got, she got he got the bloody
handle wrong. I said, I do it on a hand,
and gave me a jug. So I looked down. I
put up with that now he said, he said he's
going to put the commentary on, and he got the

(01:51:28):
screen on there, the big screen. No commentaries is not
good enough for I was as soon as I sort
of coming for I was my no. I SAWT had
gone somewhere else and got my jug, and then she said,
oh sorry, so I'll go and ask him. And then
next minute she finally puts they does come on eventually.
And then the study cold out there, and I'm sixty
five now, and I thought this is too cold for me.

(01:51:50):
And I SAWT of went inside and looking around there
to find a place in my walk because hardly nobody
had all these reserves on the table.

Speaker 15 (01:51:58):
It's one right in the corner.

Speaker 20 (01:51:59):
There, and I thought, no, back of down, I'm going
to go to sit over there. I just put the
reserve signed. Besides, I found out the night before what
they on the well known for. All they do is
they walk when you walk on the bar. They want
to keep those tables. You think they are reserved, which
you think they would be. They've got reserve, so I
think someone's going to pick the table. I watched the
whole system, and at two hours off there hardly they

(01:52:20):
want to be taking those tables. What they do and
they see a group of people, they'll grab you and
they'll chuck you on. They'll take the reserve. They're not
even booked.

Speaker 7 (01:52:27):
They just do.

Speaker 20 (01:52:27):
You think it's book, but it's not a calm.

Speaker 3 (01:52:30):
Did you get did you get some chips?

Speaker 5 (01:52:34):
No?

Speaker 20 (01:52:34):
I didn't. I just washed the game and in the
end end up sitting in the corner and then a
screen there no commentary. I just basically gave up.

Speaker 3 (01:52:43):
We're driving, we're driving home after we going to stay
the night.

Speaker 20 (01:52:47):
I stay the night there, but would you say the
night Pepe a backpack of their reasonably cheatcommodation. The beds
a bed for me, Mark, you ain't really care.

Speaker 3 (01:52:57):
For your Pete. That's what like the hear beards, is
a sheerd roobe at the back pickers.

Speaker 20 (01:53:01):
Here's one of those dorbitory ones here. It does be
onny cares quite warm, heir, bloody heat pumping there and
good good kitchen facilities and that, you know, it's quite
a nice little spot. There was a very central there,
you know, just around the corner from the from the stadium.

Speaker 3 (01:53:16):
Didn't never tea but you didn't want to be neither.
You didn't do anything of the stadium. Did you know?

Speaker 20 (01:53:20):
What's the game there? That night before I watched the.

Speaker 3 (01:53:24):
Course up to date with that big great story, heartbreaking
but great. You're in the corner with the sound off riots. Marcus.

Speaker 19 (01:53:34):
Welcome, good morning, good evening, Marcus, how are you good?

Speaker 3 (01:53:38):
Right? Thank you.

Speaker 14 (01:53:39):
You were.

Speaker 19 (01:53:41):
Tuned in the den near before the news here and
you was asking about that song they gimme that thing?

Speaker 4 (01:53:48):
Yes it was.

Speaker 19 (01:53:50):
It was brought up by a group called the Pipkins
and they were dressed up as clowns and they said,
I think there's either three or four of them in
the group singing there and they're like like like Mobo
the clowns, And then that was one of their songs,
and give me give me that, give me to give
me give me that called the Pitkins p I P

(01:54:11):
K I.

Speaker 5 (01:54:11):
N E S.

Speaker 19 (01:54:12):
That was the name of the band. I don't know
where they were from, where they were u K or
somebody would know, but I think they're.

Speaker 4 (01:54:20):
From the u K.

Speaker 3 (01:54:20):
I think have any other hits?

Speaker 19 (01:54:23):
Well that guys said they did have other hits. Ye
I don't know, but I thought it was one of
the one h wonder like like that, the one there
that's sang the tip takes me there. I know that
was the I know that gimme that thing was the thing.
And it was that they were clear they were up
as cloud and they called the group the Pitkins. How

(01:54:45):
come you know all this a music fanatic like the
old music mainly coutchy music, But I didn't know of
that being the Pitkins and they would read up as clowns.

Speaker 3 (01:54:57):
Did they do yeck as well?

Speaker 19 (01:55:00):
Let's could have they could have done that could have
been one of their songs here. But I know, I know,
I know that was that give me that, give me,
give me, give me that, give me that ding.

Speaker 3 (01:55:09):
Yeah, that was a okay, brilliant appreciate that. Ray. By
the way, our leader, the world's leader, Trump has spoken.
Village people said this is him just on truth Social
just moments ago, village people singing Victor Willis is dead
at seventy four. He was a great and happy guy
who loved it. I used his group song Y m

(01:55:31):
c A at my rallies. Only Trump could make something
dying about him. It became a monster hit again thirty
years after its original launch. Many singers and groups wanted
to get on board at the rallies after all of
the Rallied tenants records were set. The crowds were and
are enormous, But Victor in the group was there for

(01:55:52):
us right from the beginning. They loved the action and
we love them and their great and uplifting song. We
will think of Victor every time y MCA has played
like today and all through this July fourth Birthday week,
Mike and Donald to his wonderful family and group, Victor
Willis will be sorely miss God bless him, President Donald J. Trump. Ah,

(01:56:14):
what a piece of work. No one's happy with Pete
being put in the corner. Nobody puts Pete in the corner. Terrible.
You wander when Pete's gonna stop going to Hamilton. It
never seems to work out for him. There was the
car park instant at Burger Fuel or Burger, can't even
remember who it was now Marcus, she said clutch. That

(01:56:35):
means manual transmission. Only automatics don't have a clutch. I
don't imagine Study would have said clutch if she were
told it was a talk converter. Cambravans are heavy and
although from the conservation with you has sound like her
hearing was good. Oudly, people read the heck out of
the engine and slip the clutch, which is a recipe
for destruction. Shirley rang back, and Shirley said it's automatic,

(01:56:58):
and other people have rung and said that Shirley is
an extremely good driver. We're talking the village, people and
data centers and the Sonny Walkman, House on Hood, happy
hour food, great cocktail's vegan option, half priced to taco,
hump Day cocktails, w dumplings, infinite pizza Fridays. They're trying everything.

(01:57:23):
I don't know anything about it. The House on the Hood,
looking forward to you. What you've got to say people.
One of his Marcus Good Evening Trump has spoken about
the village. That's his favorite band. If you do goog
what's the guy's name DNN. If you google Victor Willis
and Donald Trump, the first thing that comes up is
the fact that they asked Trump not to use his songs. Yeah,

(01:57:46):
there's clips of him asking Donald Trump to stop playing
Village People music at rallies. He said he liked that fans,
no matter their political leanings, enjoyed the hit single wherever
we stress it. Neither he nor the group endorsed the
US president. We've asked him to stop playing his music
at his rallies. So yes, if you are English and

(01:58:11):
staying up to see the English play the Congo DC,
the Congo DC, Congo DC, let us know how you
think that is going to go to I wouldn't mind
pre I wouldn't mind doing a pre match report on that.
Harry Kane the most goals at a World Cup for England.
He seems to be very good. He seems to be
on fire. But I think the German coach was unhappy
with them in their last outing. I don't think I

(01:58:34):
can handle it if they lost, but I think they'll
go all the way. That's my take. Marcus, what is
the weather at Mount Rope? Who? What was fuck? I
don't know what that says? Come on people. We're here
tonight for the end of it, half an hour left
to go. Let's be having some of your I can't
mention data centers again because I thought you people would
be very much opposed to them. But I'm not feeling

(01:58:54):
that vibe. I thought that was going to be one
of the great insurgencies that people are upset about data centers,
but no, people seem apathetic about that. And the Village
People will a cop guy die from that? At seventy five,
the flags in America will be at half mass, no doubt.
I wouldn't be surprised if Trump doesn't put them on
the ten dollar note, because Trump has a great ability

(01:59:18):
of doing things because he wants to do them to
wind people up. Oh yeah, Now, Sony Walkman, This Day
in nineteen seventy nine was released Transform the World where
it transformed jogging. Probably a lot of people got killed
because I couldn't hear the cars coming because the headphones
were on. So the show tonight is about data centers
and the Village People and ah also the movie Can't

(01:59:42):
Stop the Music, which was the Village People movie, and
Caitlyn Jenna do you remember that flopped everywhere except Australia
Bang a soundtrack one of the greats. Yeah, if you've
watched it lately, you want to tell me what it
was like. I might't watch it after work. Then again,
I might not looks pretty good. I don't know if

(02:00:04):
he was. I think he might've been out of the
village people. Then the guy that's died, Yes, I think
he was out for that, left and then rejoined. Oh,
you know bands, he once you stop creating. That's the
interesting about music. Bands once your early days, it's everyone's
excited because you're writing songs and you just tour and
they always fall out. What's a very interesting podcast type
thing on that's why bands don't stay together, and they

(02:00:26):
stay together for the beginning, then of course just kind
of persed early just because the creative process is gone. Tim,
it's Marcus good evening, You good, Tim really good.

Speaker 10 (02:00:38):
No, I just thought, you know, we're listening to show
as an art and or not maybe it will corn
and other corn ever cheer out dozeners.

Speaker 3 (02:00:46):
What do you want to say about them?

Speaker 10 (02:00:49):
What? I just feel like it's such a negative initial
instinct towards them before we probably appreciate what they can
bring to our economy.

Speaker 3 (02:01:03):
So tell me more about that.

Speaker 10 (02:01:05):
What you look at it. You know you're listening to
here there the earlier staying about now anything about you
SCA rangers at the moment and into a data is
breaming at the moment right that it's the place to
be in terms of workonomics, right where they are and everything.
It's data seems that the place we should invest our

(02:01:27):
money in. And it just seems to be just a
little bit of a handbrake Idea in his mun let's
not put them here.

Speaker 3 (02:01:36):
But tim So it's hard to understand some of the
stuff you're saying. But there's been no pushback. But overseas
there's been no pushback because the zenders don't really have
much opinion on them. But overseas and all sorts of
places people have rallied against them and have them banned

(02:01:58):
because of the noise and because of the power use
and the water use. So there's all sorts of places
in America, but.

Speaker 10 (02:02:05):
They can that's the same thing we've heard, like, you know,
I'm a farm in the South Island and they did,
You're not. They wouldn't, and they're prioritized industry like what
they're in. They're not going to sit up here if
they can't generate the power and they can't get the
water right, So that that seems like obviously an argument
because you know, they wouldn't they wouldn't establish themselves here

(02:02:30):
without already organizing their power infrastructure, and then what do
they need to run it?

Speaker 3 (02:02:36):
You know, we've got a lot of them, and they
haven't got the power sorted for the South Island one
yet they're still in negotiations.

Speaker 10 (02:02:43):
Yeah, and that's the think that the counter top up
right down New Zealand's power restructure is not good at
all when we.

Speaker 3 (02:02:52):
If the power infrastructure is not do you know how
much these power uh do you know how much these
data centers are using.

Speaker 10 (02:02:59):
Yeah, it's anover going amounts. But the factor is they'll
they'll bring the private funding to organize power infrastructure if
they can sit up here. So you know, we can't
generate enough power to obviously have charging stations for vvs
because currently that's publicly fund them. But if a private

(02:03:20):
if a private data center is going to put the
money into generating the power, they could do it, and
they won't do it if they can't, So it's a
bit of a catch twenty two in away right, They're
not a big data company, is not going to come
and make it powers in here if they can't, if
they can't themselves get the power. But if they can't

(02:03:42):
get the power and privately fund it, that's good for
the country because they're making they're making the power networks
to do it, so there can't be anything negative come
from that.

Speaker 3 (02:03:50):
Brilli dump. Thanks them much for that.

Speaker 1 (02:03:53):
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