Tattoo of a sleeve (31 March 2026)

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus lush Night's podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'd be.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Welcome, good evening people. My name is Marcus. I hope
it's My name is Marcus full stop. I hope it's
good where you are people, if that be in New
Zealand or somewhere else. And if it's not good, I
hope it's better. By the time I leave at twelve,
when Tim Beverage comes along, it is the Tuesday free
for all. Anything goes tonight to looking forward to what
you've got to say, non turateed talk. I want to
give it room to breathe. There might be something special

(00:34):
you need to talk about. There might be something that
I suggest you want to talk about. Always keeping a
watchful eye on the East, that is Middle the Middle East.
It's funny every time I go to get guests. I
went to get guest today and there's a lot of
people getting guests and they're all chatting. It feels like

(00:55):
the vibe of the Four Courts changed. I'm at z,
but there's always people chanting, chit chet chat hey, and
I think they're talking about the price of fuel. Well,
I am curious about I'm not gonna talk about fuel
or night. I just want to say some top of
mind stuff. Have the prices of diesel Ford or double

(01:17):
cab mutes if they come down, the secondhand market has
a collapsed yit with people trying to get rid of them.
Just curious. I'm not saying that would have wouldn't happened.
I'm just asking you. You got to be careful. You're saying, oh,
why would you think they've come down? Jeepers, greepers. I
love my ute. I'm also quite mindful. I think probably
one of the sectors that will struggle, that might potentially

(01:38):
struggle is hospitality, which seem to be pinched anywhere with
high wages and high food costs. But yeah, I reckon
they're going to be the ones who's gott to feel it.
In Australia they want to put a five percent automatic
bounty on restaurants, or not a bounty, but putting the
price up five percent just to help them get through.
I think it's going to be a pinch point for
hospital which is always already doing it tough. You might

(02:00):
want to comment on that also, that's not the topic.
I just try to check some stuff out there in
the beginning. I have got things in and I want
to start with talking about tonight. The number is eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty nine nine two de text
no sport to keep your company with tonight, which is unfortunate.
Enjoyed last night with the football. Yes, I see that

(02:20):
Tottenham Hotspur are coming to New Zealand. Yeah, to play
the Auckland team. I thought, actually, I thought it was
one of the rare occasions that I thought one of
the acdmps made sense. The government subsidy to bring two
football teams together that are both owned by billionaires. Crazy world.

(02:41):
I don't know who owns Tottenham Hotspur, but I believe
what the guy said. They probably are a billionaire. But yes,
and the government's going to help them come together. I
know I go on and on about football, But once
upon a time, in the nineteen seventies or the early
ninety eighties, Tottenham Hotspur came to New Zealand and played
the New Zealand team or an Auckland team at Newmarket Park.
And I've remembered and supported the team ever since. But

(03:02):
it seemed like the most outlandish name for a team.
Never forgot that there'll be some reason about Hotspur what's
your question, Judith to start the whole wall rolling tonight?

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Oh, good evening, Marcus ho are you good?

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Thank you?

Speaker 4 (03:18):
I'd just like to know, like, I've started doing water
aerobics and the spar and all that and a gym,
and I was just wondering why the hell you'd want
to get a tattoo.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Did you say water aerobics?

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Wow, what's the connection between water aerobics and you're wondering
about a tattoo?

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Well, I've got one child and eagle went and got
a tattoo and he was even took my hond of
city car to go and get it. Took you what
my hond of city car? I have a hound of city.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Your son took your car to get a tattoo?

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (03:56):
What did he get?

Speaker 4 (03:57):
He got a sleeve?

Speaker 3 (03:59):
A tattoo of a sleeve A tattoo.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
No, that that's where they tattoo the.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
I wanted to get a tattoo of a sleeve, wouldn't
it He should have got that.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
No, when they do it, well they do it.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
God, he sounds like what was what's on the sleeve?
Tedto of a sleeve? Very good?

Speaker 4 (04:22):
I don't know market is it the Virgin.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Mary or you know how they will do different things
like Beckon, what's no?

Speaker 4 (04:29):
It was like a Samoan tattoo.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Oh you like tribal Yeah? And I said Kennedy is
he sam Owen.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Evens No, he's a Kennedy. He's Irish.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Wow, And you know what, hang on, hang on, It's
not very hardcore to take your mum's Honda City to
get a tattoo without even asking. That would be the
most untattooed thing I've heard.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
No, he asked if he could borrow my car?

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Has he not got his own car?

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Well, he didn't at the time, because he's about nineteen.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Is this today, No, it was about ten.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Years ago, twenty years ago.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
So you've been to water aerobics and you're walking through
the water and the but you didn't say is you're
seeing a lot of people with tattoos. And that got
you under it. That was a bit of the conversation
we missed. You know what, This will go down badly.
I sometimes think people have tattoos to make themselves appear
more interesting.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Would you know what you should get?

Speaker 3 (05:36):
You should get one, though, Judith, what would you get?
What do you what do you what.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
Do you get my eyebrows?

Speaker 3 (05:44):
What are your passions? What do you enjoy doing of
an evening? Do you like a drink?

Speaker 4 (05:48):
I don't listen to you market.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Oh well, god, don't get me. You get a radio
on you, you get a tear of a radio.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Here we go, No we we I go to bed,
I go to bed with Micah.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Get a radio tattoo. Thank you, Judith. But thanks for
starting the whole ball rolling tonight. I've never my own.
I mean, I've wanted two things about tattoos. I want
to know what it felt like. And I thought I
could get a tattoo of a invisible tattoo that only
glowed in the dark. But I never go to nightclubs.
I thought I'd get a tattoo of that old EMU spiral.

(06:22):
But that seems weird, doesn't it. It seems a bit niche.
So yeah, I don't think I'm on the tattoo market.
I'm a clean skin. I think people call me that
is that what you get called straight edge? Johnny, This
is Marcus. Welcome, good evening.

Speaker 6 (06:39):
I just watched Matuders again.

Speaker 7 (06:42):
In a couple of Shakespeare and plays on on TV.
Hotspur was a character from Henry the Third and Pottenham
Hotspur get the Hotspur name from Percy or Percy the Hotspur,
also known as Harry too many aka in this but yeah,
he used to dig his spurs into his horse to

(07:03):
make it go faster. So yeah, it's fere that comes from.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Because normally the English football names aren't that whimsical, are they.

Speaker 8 (07:11):
Well I'm not a big follower of.

Speaker 7 (07:15):
English football and I don't really know much about it,
but I just just know a little bit about history.
So I'm sort of waiting in here and tell you
is it shakes?

Speaker 3 (07:23):
I like that where people? Is it Shakespearean?

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yes it is?

Speaker 7 (07:28):
Yeah, So yeah, Percy was a character and Henry the
Third who was competing for the throne, and yeah, he
was known for it's been quite a fiery individual and
they nicknamed him Hotspur and Tottenham have adopted this as
a means of saying, yeah, look we're the beast knees.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Okay are they still? Are they still in the English
top league?

Speaker 9 (07:58):
I wouldn't know.

Speaker 7 (08:00):
I've got amazing absolutely nuts on it, and he's always
going on about it.

Speaker 6 (08:04):
I'm like, oh, here we go.

Speaker 7 (08:06):
But yeah, to be honest, I've got no connection to it.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
It's one of those old fashioned things that people really
passionate about. Now not so much.

Speaker 7 (08:18):
Well, yeah, I looked up Tottenham and apparently there's there's
been a lot of diamond dealers throughout history there, which
is interesting enough. Yeah, a lot of the Hasidic Jews
and that through the history of Tottenham, so interesting, money
leaning and all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
He's nicely. You have seen them play at new Market
Park and it might have been seventy six, but Johnny
Thang you you'd be clean skin, would you?

Speaker 7 (08:42):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (08:43):
Well, we used to.

Speaker 7 (08:43):
We used to have bladder bags.

Speaker 10 (08:46):
We used to.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
I'm talking about tattoos.

Speaker 8 (08:50):
Oh no, No, I've got I've got a miss on
one side done by the late Catman carry from from Hamilton,
and I've got a really good one from why.

Speaker 6 (09:01):
He From that I've had since I was twenty one
on my right arm.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
And when you say this is that? Does that code
for something?

Speaker 11 (09:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (09:09):
It was done so deep that it can't be taken off.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Was it done with Was it done with an old
razor or something?

Speaker 7 (09:17):
Was it done with a ben fork and a car
and a toy car battery like they're doing? Wasn't No,
it was it was done with bi professional tatooist better
in the days when I wasn't anything and everything, and
so yeah with it.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
I list looking cad of a I'll tell.

Speaker 7 (09:33):
You what it's a. It's a serpent wrapped around the
bicep and tricep and that is wrapped around a v
E engine with big hitters and flames coming out of it. Wow.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Not good for the current fuel crisis.

Speaker 6 (09:45):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (09:47):
She gets something to convert it to an e vorking
help on the get a serpent around a tesla, there'd
be the go nice to talk, Johnny. We're on strong start.
Everyone's on their best game tonight.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Bob five of our parliamentary guy including our leader and
went over to Australia and they came back making great
Who are about how Australia is going to work with
New Hullam they're going to help us out. Australia got
no fuel? What are they going to help us out with?

Speaker 3 (10:20):
You see Australia because you go so much further some
of those remote petrol stations. I mean, no one's going
to drop fuel off there are they.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
No, no, But it's just when they're going to work together,
you can't give us what you haven't got. No, and potsmore,
what do we call that soccer team? They're actually on
the cup that being relegated.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Oh they're a dud team, are they?

Speaker 12 (10:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (10:45):
No good? No good.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
So you've got the premier team and then you've got
the first divisions. That the way it goes.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, yeah, so not that I know a great deal
about soccer, but I just heard the other day that
they were on the on the capital relegation.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
So they're dud's okay, they're probably the.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Main thing is these guys went to Australia, came back
made But who the hell are we going to work
and with a they're going to give us and they're
going to give us that they've got nothing.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
I think it's gonna if it goes bad. I think
it's going to go bad quite quickly.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Oh yes, I agree with you, and they already know that,
but they're not telling us that.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, there seems to be controlled panic.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Well I think I've told I told you what I
think about the lady. That's some chat. I won't go
on to that her. But yeah, well, as husual, we've
been lied when we're expect to believe them. But we don't.
We've got past that.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
M Okay songs is good for talk back. That's my
any concerned, Thank you diesel, But yeah, tell you what
the conversation starts at the field station. Wow, I'm never
quite sure if you're driving and there's I was gonna
say something really boring and I'm not going to do it.
I'm going to save yourself from doing it. Yeah, because

(11:55):
the hoses aren't as long as they once were used
to be able to get it over the car, and
they you've got to actually spin around and reverse and
if your side's not free. Anyone wondered about that. My
only life hack about gas is that it's boring waiting
for it to fill up. But if you just use

(12:16):
how long would it be to be two minutes? If
you use the two minutes to get everything you can
out of your car in that little bit, it always
makes you feel quite virtuous. There'll be some soft drink
containers on the floor on the back and stuff like that,
or rusks if you've got young kids. Anyway, oigh our
neighbors have a stock trucking company. They are really beginning

(12:36):
to suffer with the diesel prices. They employ several drivers
and they think they're worried about the future of their employment.
I am thinking of getting the pearl jam stick man
on my calf muscle. Marcus John from Totongus. I went
to the beach hop and fung A Mattah last week.
Took the new diesel to Ota Prata over. Would have

(12:58):
been cheaper to have taken our nineteen sixty four Pontiac
with a six point four leit of V eight, sensible car,
five and a half meters long, two doors and a
bloody big v A sports coop. I'm interested to know
about the Honda City. Haven't seen one in years. If
you see a mint one, they look good. Marcus, I'm

(13:21):
twenty seven. This is the first time I've ever seen
diesel cost more than ninety one. There's a lot of
explainers about that. It's harder to refine and there's less
per liter of the crew. Do you get the diesel
There's not as much and there's more demand because diesel
does the heavy lifting. Yep, HITDLE twelve minamers, Marcus, welcome,

(13:41):
good start twenty one past eight eight twenty four HITDLE twelve.
How are you hope you're going well? Welcome, Welcome, welcome.
John A's Marcus. Good evening, Oh, good evening.

Speaker 13 (13:51):
How are you good?

Speaker 12 (13:52):
John?

Speaker 10 (13:53):
Til into your discussion around diesel, But I'm just wondering, oh, que,
I've been quite quite surprised. I talked to quite a
few car dealers recently, and a whole lot of them
are saying they've eventually been sold out of evs, and
even channers said the whole lot have gone and this
has only happened in the last two weeks. Surprised.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
It's pretty amazing how reactive the market is to paint
at the pump and a price pressure point. It's extraordinary
a how quickly it changes.

Speaker 10 (14:24):
Yeah, I think to some degree, some people were probably
contemplating it, and that was the trigger that pulled the
the trugger was pulled. They'd already decided they were going
to change, but then you got around to it, and
they certainly certainly have. Now there's one car out of
town here that's complete. They only sell evs. They completely
sold out. So finding it but tough because that's pretty

(14:45):
tough on the business. Mean, they've got cars on the water,
but they literally have no churn over.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Because I would have thought when you read the reviews.
It seems as though some of the Chinese EV's that
are coming out now are pretty high spec and pretty
you know, they're a lot cheaper than the Tesla's, but
they have all the kitten cabird or they can go
underwater and do all sorts of things, and people are
loving them.

Speaker 10 (15:08):
Ah, the technology and the Chinese EV's we've got. We
run a fleet of EV's and we use the MG
four for a fleet car.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
And yeah, that's that's Chinese. That's Chinese.

Speaker 10 (15:20):
Now the MG is Chinese. Yeah, yeah, it's part of
early so you know the Chinese. I looked at the
XP which is on our local one here, which is
made by Chinese. It would blow your when she showed
me the tech and the car and just makes our
regular cars both dinosaurs, and it's just astonished. And it's

(15:41):
the same price or less than a Tesla. But yeah,
I mean you can argue the quality, but people did
that when Japanese cars first came in, and look look
at our market. Absolutely up to you, really, But.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
How how about your fleet? Are you in trouble or
have you got some diesel and some petrol cars as well?
Are you going all right?

Speaker 7 (16:00):
No?

Speaker 10 (16:01):
We are all evs right through where you have been
for the last two years. So we didn't change because
of We only change from financial reasons, not for green reasons.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
So it made sense. It made sense to you two
years ago do it.

Speaker 10 (16:15):
Ah, Yeah, to the tune of saving us around just
on one vehicle alone, save as twelve thousand dollars a year,
We're running costs just on one of the vehicles, so
I thought, I think it makes sense to do the rest.
So absolutely, And that was when they were you know,
they were expensive. Well they still are, depending on which
one you buy. I've even got dealers. My dealer is

(16:37):
actually bringing me and asking me if I'll sell mine
and I've only had mine for six months.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Are you worried people? Are you worried people think you've
done it for green reasons?

Speaker 10 (16:46):
No, they're very crossing the line. I don't care what
real people think. All the reason they think of a
toss about that. It's all down to running the business profitably.
And yeah, it just made sense at the time, and
I guess it makes a lot of sense now. It
doesn't mean that he visiting.

Speaker 12 (17:00):
It for everyone.

Speaker 10 (17:01):
Everyone I have their reasons why they don't don't have
one or don't buy on the other thing that is
really important I think people don't know about this is
banks will do one percent loan on a new yors
can EV if you've got a mortgage, so I provided
you can meet the service and criteria one percent for
three years, and then if you don't pay it off
in that three years, because its security gets your property,

(17:23):
it just rolls on to your four point five percent
of the moment. At the moment, and when you consider
that most car finance out there is over twelve percent,
it's a bloody cheap here. It's a great way to
get into it. Into a vehicle that's going to costume,
you know, next to nothing to run.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
What sort of mileage does your fleet do, John.

Speaker 10 (17:42):
Just one I'm sitting in at the moment does around
thirty five thousand games a year, well.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Seven hundred a week, seven hundred a week, that's the ak.

Speaker 10 (17:51):
Yeah, so we do a fair bat. We're filing up
an EV overnight with four hundred kilometers for ten well
just under six dollars up to You make your own decisions,
but I know we made the right ones.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Us to talk John for God for cleary concise, Marcus
the government could issue all deeseliners an allocation of road
us your charges, say fifty thousand or twenty five hundred
five thousand free. This will assist retail and commercial and
set off high cost of diesel. Although they'd say it
would mean that they've less money coming into them. There's

(18:29):
great texts. I'll get to those. A lot of people
texting about Tottenham Hotspur. It's a good thing. The other
thing too, This is a situation that happened at Ikea,
which is the well everyone knows what I care is,
don't they? So what happened in Ikea is And this
has caused a lot of commentary on Facebook as at

(18:50):
what it's Taylor made for that. Here's the story what happened.
Members of a Mount One intint community group were outraged
after a shopper walked into the car park at Ikea
and said, no parking, I'm saving it. Yeah, So she

(19:10):
stood there to reserve the part for a mate that
then came and drove into it. The original poster said,
what since when can people physically receive a car part
with their body? Great idea. Someone said saving a parking
space is not a thing. In New Zealand, I think
it's a good thing if you're brave enough to do it.
I don't know if there's an international precedent. The thing

(19:33):
about Facebook, it's amazing. People must just sit there desperate
for something to comment on. Mustn't they move along? Lady
car first, No waiting for your driver? Wow? So can
you reserve? Can you bags by just going in? There
is an online poll. I've said yes. I'm in the minority.
Ninety three percent say no. I'd do it just to

(19:54):
test people's tolerance. Ministry of Transport said it was unsafe
for a pedestrian to stand an area reserved for vehicles.
A pedestrian must have at all times when practical will
remain on the footpath of one has provided. The current
infringement fee is thirty five dollars. I think it's a
great idea. I think it's a great idea to begs

(20:15):
a car park just to test people's tolerance. You can
kind of see the scenario. Someone's been driving rounding around
in circles and their partner gets out. They say, we'll
see what I can find. They find one, and they
stand and do the tree, standing still with their arms
apart and saying reserved. It's a brave thing, if you
want to comment. Twenty seven to nine, wonder what he

(20:36):
was got the fleet of cars for us temperment to
ask whether I couldn't be bothered Marcus. I would never
own an EV because I don't purchase brand new vehicles.
But if I was going to buy, when I get
a Chinese EV, I like the range and comfort and
power like the dong Fing or the j Co or
the dong Fing, that person's actually want desperate to buy one.
A lot of people swallowing they're pride when it comes
to evs, aren't they? Because the song for so long

(20:58):
they were so triggered. I thought it was a woke car,
as if a car could be woke. The stuff website
is down to become a ghost site, so you know,
h twenty four to nine, Hello neck, this is Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 14 (21:14):
Oh did a mate? Now? Look, with about eight games
to go first potam hots for our one point out
of the relegation zone, so that they're a little bit
shaky this year.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
So are they in the very top league at the moment?

Speaker 5 (21:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (21:28):
Yeah, they had been for about the last forty years,
and I think, yeah, yeah, sir, but they're in. They're
very close to relegation with a few games to go.
So yeah, and my my pony mat Pete will be
beside himself because he's a mess of Spurs fan. It'll
be it's going to be very upsetting for him if
they go down.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
But he'd go and see them when they came locally
because it's a big deal, right.

Speaker 14 (21:52):
Hi, Well, yeah, he lives in Hamilton the year.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Here you'll be able to drive up the road. Not
a problem.

Speaker 14 (21:58):
They've got a lot of Jewish fans. They were the
money lenders. That that's why. That's why the opposing teams thing,
rather than that the songs about the Jews to them.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yeah, I think I was aware it was aware of that.
What is this strip, by the way, is it white?

Speaker 14 (22:13):
Yeah? One of them was white. They have about four
or five, don't they, So they sell more jerseys, but yeah,
I think their main one would be white. Yeah. So anyway, Yeah,
they're not having a great season, but that has been
the top flight.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
If the I wonder if the players want to fly
half around the world to play a team that no
one's heard of.

Speaker 14 (22:33):
Ah, well you stead of told of guys as getting
your ages pay Hey and just on that parking thing.
It all sounds fast screwing. So look, why why someone
reserving a car park from someone? They prosued them and
they hop out of the car. Were were of the cargo?

Speaker 15 (22:52):
Well maybe that maybe they were already in Ikea and yeah,
and their partner was coming to Veto to give the
all clear.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
On the couch, they said, where can I park this?
I wanted out. I'll see if I can beg your
car pack, Johnny, I've got one here for you.

Speaker 14 (23:11):
Hey. You know what I say about ike I call
it I don't care.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yeah, it's good. Are you running your own material? That's
a very good line.

Speaker 14 (23:18):
Oh well, you know, I forget how things A few.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Have you been, Nick?

Speaker 14 (23:24):
Oh no, not an Orkand when we went to Ikea
in Australia, I think, no, somewhere.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
I wandered. I wandered, I wandered around and got not panicky.
But I didn't love it.

Speaker 14 (23:36):
No, if you're looking for something, then it could be
I wouldn't go there just for a browse. I don't
think you.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Didn't know exactly, Well you couldn't. Really, it was hard
to know. We did buy stuff. It was Yeah, it
was a weird so it was like on the Easter show, Nick,
thank you nice to talk pretty one to nine he
told the end, what about beggs in your car park?
Should that become a key we thing? We need some
more traditions. I'd like to be able to begs car packs,
Like get a special cone in the back of your

(24:01):
car that you can flip up and begs it, put
a padlock on it or something. So you want to
talk about that. That's so I'm excited about that. Oh wait,
t hundreds, you know the rest Marcus till twelve Marcus,
I used to put the children sitting and picnic chairs
to save the car park next to met the skifield
for friends coming up behind me at the Roundhle skifield
at Lake Takapor. Caused a few arguments, but worked every time. Marcus.

(24:24):
The funniest thing I saw with the reversing car parks
was a woman who stood in the way and would
not move for the person was trying to park there.
So the person got to their car and walked away,
leaving it parked in the middle of the road. When
the lady who was trying to reverse the spot walked
away a little, the car drove itself into the car park.
It was a self driving car. Because it's a good story, Marcus.

(24:47):
A massive explosions throughout the city in Dubai. Currently, wife
is there. It's the worst it's been, windows rattling, smoke
coming from the port. Goodness, Marcus. The most of em
paid for vehicles five thousand. I usually own a vehicle
for four to seven years and spend three and a

(25:09):
half thousand on petrol. So I can't just by the
purchase price and insurance cost of an EV. As much
as I'd love one, I have nowhere to charge one
at home or at work fortune unfortunately. And what about
beggs in a car park? I'm all in. I think
it's good, but people do things that make us question
the way we go about stuff like what is the problem.

(25:32):
I don't know the answer, but I'm sure you might
make things clearer for me. Ah April Fool's Day tomorrow.
You think people will do something funny or you think
it's too serious. Has been quite lame lately, and Trump
has said he's willing to end the wall without reopening
the straight of all moves, so that that's his off ramp,
the golden off ramp. So there we go, which would

(25:54):
be a victory to Iran. They'll be clicking the ticket
if you like. The world is changing and the stuff
website is down, which is interesting, and what's going on there?
It's just gone all white to me. And yes there
is a lot like that text said. There are a
text going on in Dubai money of a tanker although

(26:19):
two container vessels belong to the Chinese shipping company Cosco
have successfully passed through the straits, so they're out. They're
on their way home. Seventeen to nine Pauline car Park reserving.
It's Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 16 (26:36):
Thank you Marcus. When you mentioned this business, I thought absolute. Firstly,
I thought absolutely not. Cars go round and round and
around looking for a car space, and I thought, no,
that's wrong. That person shouldn't be standing there. But then
I had another think, and I thought, if you have

(26:59):
someone in the car who, like you, might have mum
and five kids, and she's going right and round and
round and really or perhaps someone needs assistance getting out
of the car, I can see where there might be
someone tempted to reserve it and say come here, I've
got it now, it's all right. So I've changed my mind.

(27:19):
In about five minutes time.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
There might be someone that's medically unwell or something and
they think, oh, well, you know that I really need
to go that. I'm going to go out and get
that sorted.

Speaker 16 (27:28):
Yeah, so I think, yeah, I've done a flip on
that from my first absolutely not. Well, okay, please.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
You're flexible, Pauline. That's good. It's good. We're all flexible
about things. I mean, what is the problem with it? Really?
Sixteen to nine fourteen from nine o'clock, people welcome, funny
our week, short week, then a long weekend, then an
extra long weekend because on is it long because it's
four days? But it's now long because of daylight saving?

Speaker 12 (27:59):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
I loving how every year the newspaper doesn't explainer on
daylight saving, just like some of us would never ever
get it. It's because of the Earth tells it's twenty
three degrees. What would happen if we didn't have the
telt we have no seasons? Would we would nothing grow?
I suppose plants would adapt. No one can tell me
why the stuff websites down. I'm missing out a story

(28:22):
on a tortoise. By the looks of things. If you
want to talk on here. That's the plan. Should you
odd to bags a car park? Why do people get tattoos?
There's probably many, many reasons, but I don't think there
is one reason. I've noticed more and more that now,
what's the right word, that's not more and more pinchers

(28:44):
are getting them like butterflies and things good on them. Hell,
Creston Hamilton is getting a peanut roundabout or a peanut
about that's happening. Very complicated intersection, that's the plan there
no one for its high crash rate, could make one
of the city's most dangerous intersections safer. It's quite interesting

(29:07):
the psychology of roundabouts because the owners is on the person.
They're not kind of surrendering to the lights. They actually
realize that if they blow it, it's their fault. Therefore
they behave a lot better. Wellthough I'm always surprised I
get through them unscathed. You have a fully confident through
a roundabout twelve away from nine if you want to
be a part of it. By the way, so tomorrow's
the day that a lot of those things happen. Extra

(29:29):
money for key we savor and the likes. SAME's happening
in Australia. They are talking about a financial title wave
there tomorrow. Yep, that's happening. But get in touch by
Amis Marcus welcome Hittle twelve. Do you want to be
a part of it? Eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty
Do you want to text? Nine to nine two? Let

(29:52):
me take my jacket off too hot? Leaving away from
nine o'clock. If there is something different you want to
talk about tonight, then that is the plan. Always keen.
If you've got some other comments about the way the
world is going with the price of diesel, you might
be in some sort of industry we have. We have
some heads up on which way the economy is going

(30:14):
to go and what's the next thing to go up
in price. I think things might start moving quite quickly
with diesel having gone up so much. I'll check brink crude.
I'd say, be one thirteen. That's the gut feeling I get.
Let me just check what that's at. Sometimes I feel
like the fuel whisperer on it now people, I feel
like it's come down a bit. I get that my sense,

(30:36):
Oh it's come down a lot. Always come down a bit.
From one eleven to one oh six, that's what that's doing.
I think it's been more than one eleven. It doesn't
seem quite right to me, but that's what it's done today.
Oh yes, there has been up long. I haven't got
the whole day thing. So yeah's come down significantly, and
that does seem to factor a lot of things that
might be a good sign. I don't know if it's
come down. When Trump said he's not going to keep

(30:58):
it open, it's going to be up for everyone else,
she seems like quite a smart thing to say, if
he's an American to say that again. Touch here till twelve,
nine away from nine, seven from nine Jason Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 17 (31:11):
Hey, make you said? Do you remember Chuck Norris?

Speaker 6 (31:14):
Wouldn't you a little bit?

Speaker 3 (31:17):
A little bit? What was that TV program from the seventies?

Speaker 17 (31:20):
He did a lot of movies. Can't remember the TV
program of the top of my kid, But you know
he's passed.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Away recently last last week, right.

Speaker 17 (31:29):
Yeah, And you remember there was a whole lot of
jokes about Chuck Norris is so tough. Yes, yeah, Well
I've got his final one, and that is Chack Norris
was so tough that when he met the Grim Reaper,
the Grim Reaper.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Died every good you like it? Yeah? Why why was
he taken? Has been so tough because he was tough.
He's like a martial art. It's like a martial art gift.

Speaker 18 (31:57):
Real deal.

Speaker 8 (31:58):
It was he It was a real deal.

Speaker 19 (32:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Was he Did he fight Bruce Lee?

Speaker 4 (32:09):
What did you say?

Speaker 18 (32:09):
Did he fight for his league?

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Bruce Lee?

Speaker 17 (32:12):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Bruce Lee? Not sure.

Speaker 17 (32:13):
I think Bruce would have been dead before he came
into form, but probably would have taken him on. I mean,
he's a machine, you know, he was a machine corrector.

Speaker 7 (32:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (32:24):
I liked his movies.

Speaker 17 (32:25):
I did like his movies so were good watchable movies.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
I think he might have fought Bruce Lee in Way
of the Dragon.

Speaker 17 (32:32):
Okay, okay, hey, how old are you? Jason fifty seven?
So yeah, this, You know, all these movies were in
the seventies and eighties, and what I'm saying about in.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
The seventies, kung Fu movies were huge, weren't they?

Speaker 17 (32:46):
Oh kung Fu Fighting mate, we were all dancing around
the Old Lady's LP radio gram for that song.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
But also there was always a double bill on a Saturday.
There was always Kung Fu His Way of the Dragon. Yeah,
I wonder why that never go. I mean, to me,
it was more worthy than Transformer movies or superhero It
was quite good.

Speaker 18 (33:06):
They were.

Speaker 17 (33:07):
And and then you had all the you know, the
Army Arnie movies, and all the Chap Norris and and
the other guy, Charles Bronson, he was another good actor.
And on top of that Dirty Harry. So there was
a lot of violent movies back then.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
But they were good movies, great, and they're good actors.

Speaker 17 (33:28):
They were good actors and all those tough guys. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I mean that's just you know, that's a joke about
Chap Norris being so tough. That's how tough he was,
you know what I mean, the Gromp Reaper.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Yeah know, whether joke, very good, Jason the thing, but
always like a good pivot. And to Bruce Lee, he's
huge in the seventies, come for movies to go back
and watch some. It wasn't really my jem, but I
could appreciate that people were into it, and Bruce Lee
was a hero. Every one loved Bruce Lee. Of course,
he died in seventy three, and then the stock market

(34:05):
crashed and the whole drove into recession. Things were quite
as big after that. Then you had Jackie chant on
about tonight, Bruce Lee and kung Fu movies in the seventies.
Always enjoy movie nostalgia if you want to talk about that.
I've literally just pulled out of a service station as
I tuned into news talk ZB. I paid three forty

(34:25):
three for ninety one octane, which isn't too bad considering
a lot of people are texting me and asking me
for my favorite April Fool's pranks. Don't take this the
wrong way. I think it's lame. I think it's done
its dash. The best one was the reverse April Falls
prank and BMW said they'd give away a BMW the

(34:46):
first person that turned up, and that was on April one,
and one person went there and turned up and she
got a car. That was the twist. It was a
reverse prank. That's my take. Greetings and greetings, greetings twice.
People who've chosen me to see you right to midnight tonight,
get amongst if you want to what was the greatest

(35:06):
kung Fu movie? The kids need to get back into that.
There was a good thing kung Fu. It was always
the music. No, no, no, that thinging and in Ding
Ding Ding Ding, I got that right. But you can
do the music. Of course, there was the Kung Fu
fighting song. Loved it all and that's when they had

(35:27):
suburban movies that had the double feature. Anyway, Helen Marcus
good evening.

Speaker 19 (35:32):
Yeah, Hi, I was listening to Matt and Tyler's Afternoon.
They did a session on April Fool's jokes and the
people ringing in with various ones some brightes. Mike had
thought it was really good prank to connect up the
farm gate to the electric fence. Now this absolutely freaking

(35:55):
out because it's something that's wearing, it's got a pacemaker.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Or something that's kill them.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
You kill them, that's right, it's lame. It's lame. I reckon,
it's lame.

Speaker 19 (36:05):
I think it's and I had experienced got some very
bad shocks of a very strong electric fence, and I
can really believe that that could actually kill people. So
I tried to actually get on and do.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
You have a pacemaker?

Speaker 19 (36:22):
No, I don't, but they did wouldn't let me on.
So I just thought, please, if anybody's sick thought that
was a good idea, and they might.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
I think a lot of people when they choose that
they make stuff up. They haven't actually done that themselves.

Speaker 19 (36:35):
Yeah, well, anyway, people don't always think so if anybody
think I.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Could laugh once in a while, I'm prank people, but
as long as don't kill them exactly.

Speaker 19 (36:45):
Okay, thank you.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
I have a sense of humor though he laugh lately.

Speaker 19 (36:50):
Yes, that's not my silk. That's not my type of
sense of humor. And okay, thank you. Have a good day.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Brilliant. Well, I might have changed my tune. They actually
it might be pro but tomorrow the wind what I
dreamed about it two nights ago. Now, why would someone
dream about something as lame as Daylight Savings? So not
Daylight savings? Flipping old April? Because all happening, isn't it? Easter,
April Fools and Daylight Saving all in the same week?

(37:21):
My blood d Haskett head gasket? What was the thing?
What was the sound that happened? In kung fu movies?
It was also from the Dark Down Alley's, wasn't it.
I don't know what the best one was. I wouldn't

(37:41):
call Karate Kid a kung fu movie. Some people probably would.

Speaker 14 (37:47):
Steve O, Yeah, Marcus, how are you?

Speaker 12 (37:51):
God?

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Good God?

Speaker 14 (37:52):
Good mate.

Speaker 18 (37:53):
Just hotted on the cast over and heard with a
lot of the conversations about but I heard the last
one about electric fence shocks not being funny. I got,
I got two. I got, I got two on Sunday.
One of them was accidental and then one of them
was intentional.

Speaker 12 (38:07):
And I'll tell you what.

Speaker 18 (38:07):
There are a few people laughing at the time, because, well,
I feel accidentally I opened my gate onto my electric fence.
Why that I've got running around the running around the bottom,
and that gave me a bit of a shock. And
later on my kids are open, my adult children, and
they've got this game they called they play called what

(38:28):
are the odds? And and what it is? You say,
what are the odds Dad, that you would touch that
electric fence?

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Why again?

Speaker 18 (38:36):
And you got to pick a number and then the
higher than you do a countdown to get to go four, three, two, one,
and you both say the numbers. So if I say
one and one hundred, if we if we both say
the same name, but I said one and four, and
we both ended up with the same number, So I
had to go down and touch it again.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
If it's the same you've got to do it. That's
pretty good. That's pretty good. That's a pretty good game.

Speaker 18 (39:01):
That's a great game because you can pick the odds.
You know, what are the odds you're I don't know,
run up the road with your pants one on the thousand.
I just wouldn't do that. Well, if you're both happened
to say four hundred and thirty two, well guess what
you're doing it?

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Did you have to grab the wire or just touch it?

Speaker 5 (39:17):
Oh?

Speaker 18 (39:17):
I touched it with a bit of with a with
a steel wire.

Speaker 9 (39:20):
We had another like a.

Speaker 18 (39:21):
Bit of an old bit of wire that would touch around.
Had to touch it with that, and then I gave it,
gave me a bit of a good jump, and I
caused my beer in my hand across over a bit
of a chock.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
It sounds like that. It sounds like the high life
for you?

Speaker 18 (39:34):
Who absolutely is this?

Speaker 3 (39:37):
What's the location?

Speaker 18 (39:39):
Kipra up around?

Speaker 3 (39:40):
They? Of course it does exactly make your own fight
on the Kuipra good on your Steve O ten past
nine Marcus till twelve. Kung Fu movies. So okay, we
didn't talk about Chuck Norris. That's bad. Someone might have
met him someone one of their favorite movies. Someone would
to have kung fu films. Everybody was kung Fu Fighting,

(40:02):
Being Touched, Welcome Hitdle twelve, Surf's up in Raglan tomorrow.
Don't it? Too many people know? Chuck Norris TV series
was Walker, Texas Ranger. As for Wooden acting, I believe
he would give William Shatner a run for his money.

(40:24):
Chuck Norris is a respected Texas ranger in real life. Wow,
here's something, you know. How we are talking about whether
you can bags a car park. I reckon the way
it's going to go on this world with apps and things,
because in America you can have people queuing for you.
There's professional cures. So if you've got to go to

(40:46):
some hot burger bar or hot donut place, you just
get on and a people will qu for you for
two hours and you just turn up. So I reckon,
before long, someone's going to make an app that you
can actually pay to have a car park reserved, and
someone will go and stand there. I reckon, it's probably
already a thing. So I reckon. We might laugh about

(41:07):
it now and say it's highly unprofessional. It's not the
key we way. I reckon, before long, someone will monetize
it and you could pay. If you want to go
to Ikea and park close, you pay fifty bucks in
some student going stand there for an hour dressed as
a cone alan. That's good. So chuck down into the
topics as well as Kung Fu movies. Oh oh wait

(41:34):
eighty ten eighty and standing in line. That is something
I'd like to hear about tonight, or bags in car parks,
by the way. This day in nineteen sixty seven, Fred
Ladd died under the Auckland Harbor Bridge. For those that

(41:54):
don't know Fred Lad, I know a little bit about
Fred Lad. He was a pilot and a self mythologizer.
And when I say that, as far as his book went,
which I had read, A Puff of Spray and Were
Away I think it was called he was kind of

(42:18):
the star of every anecdote, as was the way. But yeah,
one of the famous self publicists and aviators. He was
the guy that flew under the harbor Bridge. First, YEP,
a couple of stories about Fred Laird, because I know

(42:39):
our audience skews well for aviation what his trick was
and this is when the this was when the amphibious
planes would take off from Mechanics Bay down there at

(43:00):
the bottom of Parnell where the rescue helicopters are, and
he was a pilot of those planes. What were they
called Gummer wigeons or gummer gooses or something. I think
it was a Gummer wigeon, is what he had. But
what he would do is that he would I think

(43:23):
he owned the company right, and they did commercial services
from there to Great Barrier and Waihiki and probably the
Bay of Islands as well. And he would dress in
plain clothes and sit at the back of the plane,
and the other passengers would get on and there'd be

(43:46):
no sign of the pilot, and they go, jeepest, creepers,
where is this pilot? And this would go on for
some minutes, and he'd look more and more distracted, and
then he would get hot under the color and say, jeepers, creepers,
if no one turns up, I've got a good mind
to fly this myself, and then say things to the

(44:07):
likes of well, gee, how hard could it be, and
would walk down and start playing with the instruments, and
then would clumsily start the plane and take off, and
then he would take his overrules off or whatever and
reveal that he was in his aviation uniform. But quite
a good prank. You probably wouldn't get away with it

(44:28):
these days, you'd probably full foul of the aviation police.
But quite funny and quite humorous. Although I'd only do
it for a while because people there know what your
stick was. It was Fred Laird might read that book,
and I've got in the library of books somewhere a
shower of spray and wear away. I think he was

(44:51):
in combat. I think he was in the Pacific, in
the theater of war yeap, but loved a practical joke. Well,
these days, if your partt likes a practical joke, you're
probably not going to go far. Guess three dollars forty
one for ninety one and a hardwater. It's been the
price for some days now, Tony Marcus. The Kung Fu

(45:15):
fighting song was played at a wedding a few years
ago as the first dance. Random DJ mistake.

Speaker 5 (45:21):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
I like that a lot. Eighteen past nine, head on
the end, the bitter end. Has anyone actually ever been
killed by an electric fence with the pacebag? I think
it's a I think it's a myth. That's my take
on that one. Patrick Marcus. Welcome, Hey Marcus.

Speaker 20 (45:38):
Yeah, oh, our friend.

Speaker 5 (45:39):
He was a character.

Speaker 21 (45:41):
I flew him a few times. Oh God, with Ceber
out of Mechanics Bay. They had grumm and gooses and widgeons.
I remember when he flew under the Harbor bridge. He
used a technical loophole in the aviation law because they
used to use the harbor as the taxiway, and when
the plane was on the water, it was technically a boat,

(46:03):
and it wasn't a plane until it took off when
he went under the Harbor bridge. He actually touched down
and was touching the water when he went under the bridge,
So they said, technically I was a boat. I wasn't
a plane. That's how he got away with.

Speaker 13 (46:16):
It, because he got in trouble.

Speaker 21 (46:17):
But that's how he got away with it.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Were you someone that flew a lot? Because you were?

Speaker 7 (46:21):
Weare.

Speaker 21 (46:23):
I used to go down to the Wake Island all the time. Okay,
so we to catch the plane down the Wayauki. But
I always remember we used to fly over Brown's Island
and you'd say, can someone grab me the newspaper? And
he had a rolled up newspaper and would do a
circle around Brown's Island and you'd throw the paper out
the window to the brownses.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Yeah, I think you might be right with that one.
I think it might have been right key though, But yeah,
I'm hearing you Patrick, Thank you TB. It's Marcus. Good evening,
good evening.

Speaker 6 (46:50):
He just stole my son. But it's almost exactly what
I was going to say.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
Wow, listen to that, like Jinks, I've flown.

Speaker 6 (46:58):
With some oh twenty twice. Yeah, I was in the
deck of any kid, but I've about four times, and
very times. He wouldn't know me for a bar. But yeah,
it's excuse for bridges. He was taxing, he was on
the water. Yeah, I understood the first time he did.

(47:20):
He actually flew under the bridge.

Speaker 22 (47:21):
Got it's all sorts of.

Speaker 6 (47:22):
Trouble when he was just before he died, he was
taken on a plane under the bridge which did the
skin and that thus claimed that was taxing. But I'm
happy to.

Speaker 18 (47:34):
Be wrong with that.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
Where were you flying with him?

Speaker 9 (47:36):
dB?

Speaker 3 (47:37):
Was that because you were an aviation kind of obsessivele
because that you just it was part of your thing,
right place, right time?

Speaker 6 (47:45):
I had a score? Because I'm just sitting down with
them because trying to work it out. I must have
been about eleven, and I made of mine paid for
a flight out to Great Bear and a few other
places twice, and I got to tag along with him.
And one of those flights was Fred Legg and I

(48:08):
remember him like yesterday, but another one long after when
he lost license. He had a turn when he was
in the Talpo hotpools and he took his license plate
for him. He's trying to get it back. And he
went from I think Auckland to Wellington using every different
transport method he could. And at the time I was

(48:32):
playing at Motet and one of the vehicles he used
was the ice three wheeled ice cream cart and I
was running, and yeah, he did that for about I
don't know, one hundred feet, and then hopped on a
tram and then hopped on a horse and cart, and
then so on and so on and and he did

(48:53):
I think the whole country using every vehicle he could
find to try and prove that he was well enough
to fly, but of course the powers that he didn't
like him, and yeah, I don't think he ever got
He went gliding because he didn't need a commercial license

(49:14):
FLA and he had a couple of close calls with gliding,
but he was well loved at the Tapo Gliding Club.
Yeah yeah, and a character sadly New Zealand glow.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
Did you say you seld ice creams at Motet on
a three wheel Is it what you said?

Speaker 23 (49:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (49:36):
It was.

Speaker 6 (49:38):
I sold them four Motet I was by this day
of chamb nineteen eighteen, and they had a motorbike with
an ice cream box on the front of it, and
it was a three wheeler and you'd just around put
around motat especially the summer, and you'd sell ice creams

(50:00):
out of the ice cream box. Yeah. I'm not only
got ice cream and scoop, but you know, ice blocks
and stuff general public. And then all that money went
back into offs. Wow, I keep turning up and strange place.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
That forest camp, different stuff.

Speaker 6 (50:21):
Yeah, well, what just happens that call for volunteers step forward?
Everybody has to take one step backwards. And I was
never listening. So we at the front of the key
going what am I doing now?

Speaker 3 (50:32):
I can't imagine did it for a long time? Did you?

Speaker 14 (50:35):
No?

Speaker 6 (50:35):
No, it was I think they have to give it
one summer, just another one of those sidelines. And I
fell into.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
You should listen your your phone lines not great, DV.
Is something strange happened to you?

Speaker 23 (50:50):
No?

Speaker 6 (50:53):
No, maybe we won't believe that I've got a blocked microphone.
I'll pull the machine apart later. Also, stuff is working
for me? Sorry, it must be you.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Well that's what what that is?

Speaker 6 (51:07):
Good idea?

Speaker 3 (51:09):
It's my work computer too.

Speaker 6 (51:12):
Being there obviously something nasty about somebody.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Thank you d be appreciate that. Twenty seven past nine,
is it still just gray on white? There might be
problem with the internet down south. It's all been a
bit yanky? Is that the word JANKI? Why would someone
want to fly a plane under a bridge? I don't

(51:37):
know what that's about.

Speaker 5 (51:41):
Hmm.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
I don't know how many people have died with paste
Baker's electric fences. I believe it wouldn't happen. Do you
remember David Carriden on kung Fu used to wander the
planet as quite unassuming, quite chan gain. I love Kung Fu,
his favorite saying when canfronline do not wish to fight?

Speaker 24 (52:03):
Then he would kill them very good. I don't know
how it looks these days, but she's a great show.
We are talking kung Fu movies as well as Fred
land as well as petrol fifths anything else. It's Tuesday
on a short week with a double long long weekend
daylight savings and the extra hour for daylight savers and

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extra days off.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
For you know what it's going. What I'm saying anyway,
Hit on Midnight takes you off the headlines. There, Sandy,
buckle yourself in the hang there. I'm going to be
with you before too long. Yes, so that's the planned
stand Hit on Midnight. Not my name is Marcus Good Evening.
Keep those emails coming through if you've got them, or

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if you want to construct them, I should say, and
be my guest. I'll keep an eye breaking news to
it, and I'll bring that to you when that happens. Oh
eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine to nine two ticks.
If you want to come through, Oh, as I say, oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine two nine tick,

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I'll look up the musical notes for that kung fu bit.
But you get in touch if you want to be
part of the show. Sandy, this is Marcus Good Evening.

Speaker 5 (53:17):
Evening, Good evening, Marcus. How are you tonight?

Speaker 19 (53:20):
Good?

Speaker 5 (53:20):
Thank you, Sandy. That's good I'm just ringing up that
lady before was going on about electrifying things and the
dangers involved. Well, I've got my yute hopped up to
two forty vault electric fence system, and if they come

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and try to take picture out of it, they're going
to get one hell of a shock. Quite literally. There's
been reports and air area of picture already going missing
out of farm tanks, and I'm certainly not going to
let them take any from mine.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
So tell me how you've done this, Sandy.

Speaker 5 (54:02):
I hopped it up to the main's unit that supplies
the power to my electric fence students around the farm.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
So where have you touched it to.

Speaker 5 (54:11):
To the body of the.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Youth with those alligator clips?

Speaker 5 (54:16):
Correct?

Speaker 3 (54:17):
Can you see it?

Speaker 4 (54:18):
Hell?

Speaker 5 (54:19):
No, it's underneath, It's underneath the truck.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
I reckon, you're going to catch yourself, Sandy.

Speaker 5 (54:26):
I'll catch someone else first.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
I reckon, you'll forget about it. You've been a hurry
and you go to your carr and you'll get a shock.
I reckon, that's a bad thing to do, you think, Yeah,
I reckon.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
What would you do?

Speaker 5 (54:37):
Down and bluff where it's starting to happen as we speak,
are you in bluff, said, what would you do doll
and bluff to your vehicle to safeguard it.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
I don't reckony when I'm bluff and steal your petrol.
But are you and bluff?

Speaker 9 (54:56):
No?

Speaker 5 (54:56):
No, I'm in Central.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
They wouldn't steal fuel and central, would they?

Speaker 5 (55:01):
How Hell yes, in these remote areas, this always has
driving around late at night and that weekends. Wow, I
suppose the big thing is to look out for a
ute with a tank on the back, or a car
towing a trailer with an IBS on it or something.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
How do they gimmy open the fuel cap or do
they go and just do they just tap into the tank?

Speaker 5 (55:27):
Apparently the smart ones are now actually carrying drills and
they're drilling holes in the pitchual tank and attaching a
tube to it and draining it out from underneath.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
That way, you don't catch yourself out.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
I certainly won't, but we might.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Are you a drinker?

Speaker 5 (55:48):
Hell no, I haven't drunken in seventeen years.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
Will you'll be thirsty?

Speaker 5 (55:54):
No? No, it's the problems of having cirrhosis.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
Oh yeah, fair enough, Oh yeah, I will go. Well,
there s any nice to talk to you. I hope
you don't catch yourself out.

Speaker 25 (56:07):
Surely, yes, Marcus Marcus. When I was fourteen living in
the middle of are we beat Captain Ladd came in
front of our house and my father said, would you
like to go on that flight? And my face let
up and I ran for his wallet and got two
pounds out of it because it cost a pound each

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for us to go on a flight. And off we
went out through the waves, with his usual saying it
through the spray and away flew over the area, over Silverdale,
out over the Wonga Poa Peninsula and back into land
about fifteen minutes later. My father never flew again in

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his entire life.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
Because for those people that hadn't been in those planes,
they were very It was like being a washing machine,
but everything seemed to be done by Hanes. You'd wind
the wheels up and you do this. The technology seemed
to be quite rudimentary.

Speaker 25 (57:13):
Well, I didn't at age fourteen, I didn't have anything
to compare it with. While I later worked for National
Airways and in New Zealand, it was light years apart.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
I mean, because you've kind of felt like you were
you were sort of halfway submerged. I mean, it was
an extraordinary way to be transported.

Speaker 25 (57:36):
Ye, well, going through the waves, it was because it
just splashed up over the waves of the windows outside
you in the noise.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
Yeah, the noise, the noise. And he quite often just
drop into places like allywhere and give people.

Speaker 25 (57:52):
Well it was at Christmas time when there were lots
of people around, and so he did good business. He'd
sort of start at one end of the beach and
go out with a load and come back in and
then the middle of the beach, et cetera, and probably
do three or four different trips because of so many
people around. Brilliant And it's nineteen fifty five.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Thank you. Is that what gave you your love of flying?
So you went into the as a career sually?

Speaker 4 (58:22):
Not at all?

Speaker 25 (58:23):
Okay, but I thought it was good that my father
never went flying again.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Very funny, Thank you, Sirley. Yeah, for those that don't
know that, they Yeah, they were remarkable, those planes. I
had to go in them, well, probably half a dozen times,
maybe maybe more. Yeah, well, I've got some more stories
about that, but I won't check everything out there, you're
straight away. I also think that there was a service

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between inver Cargol and Stuart Island. That happened quite regularly,
and some of them will know more about this. Before
they had the airstrip at Stuart Iraqi Era. But I
think it took off land at in Vericago and landed
at Obarn in the water, so it wasn't takeoff land

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in the water. It started actually on land. I think
that's the way it worked last time I did some research.
Oban or the sef Oban as they probably call it now,
half Boon Bay. Get in touch if you want to talk.
Twenty three away from ten twenty one to ten a
text in Marlborough people are stealing diesel from the wind

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turbines that protect the grapes from frost. They have a
thousand liters in them. Goodness be hard to police. Twenty
to ten. Good evening, Beth. This is Marcus.

Speaker 9 (59:48):
Welcome thinks Marcus.

Speaker 26 (59:50):
This my upset a few people.

Speaker 27 (59:52):
But I remember my father, this is going back sixty
years ago on a farm. Hated the our male working
dogs lifting their legs and wean on ta tires and
we used to have people come and visit occasionally, and
he got so annoyed when the dogs would do that,

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so he got the dog the people to drive their
car up onto some blocks of wood and he would
hook the electric electric fence wires up to the car
with one of those like a clip things. So when
the dog lifted its leg on the wheel of the car,
it got a shock. It only did it a few times,

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and the dog leant not to we're on car wheel.
I know it does seem very cruel now and I
think about it, but that But I dare say, Marcus Beck,
in those days, the electric fence probably was not as
strong as what they are now, because I remember holding
the electric fence. We used to have town people come,

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friends come and visit, and we would dare them to
hold the electric fence. It was a game we used
to play. Or we'd tell the electric sense wasn't on,
and that hold it, and of course it was always on.
We didn't have a lot of fun with the electric senses.
But I don't think that they were as bad as
what they are now.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
To be honest, we'll find out.

Speaker 7 (01:01:19):
Bet.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Thank you for that. By the way, this is something
that you might find interesting, and I find it very interesting.
This year for Anzac Day, the poppy will be different.
It will be biodegradable. Now, I don't know what you
want to say about this, but with the Cenotaph and
Bluff just near home, every year they put a lot

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of poppies on that cenotaph because we have a big
Endzact day and always the wind comes up and they
all end up in the sea. So I think it's
probably a very good thing they have gone for a
biodegradable one. Then that seems to be extrame. They look
good because that's face that. The plastic ones didn't look fantastic.
And of course before I just sew poppies for school,

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I think before they were plastic, they were I felt
and whire. Have I got that right? I think I
have something effect check me because people like to do that. Jody,
this is Marcus Good Evening. Sorry bad push for me, Hi, Jody,
It's Marcus Good Evening. Okay, good Jo.

Speaker 28 (01:02:26):
Yeah, I'm run the candle. I'm not that old. I
sound extremely old, but I remember the inter from Stuart
Island bub screens when Bruce Sport Bruce and Carol Ford
heads out the.

Speaker 29 (01:02:43):
Hotel Bruce Bruce, He's still there as the arab stut
Island and the history matters.

Speaker 28 (01:02:54):
At the ants coming over. We're going great for the end,
and I'm going to the airport. Spit out lunchtime took
at home, opened up full of life gray fish and
I remember so I was probably that or something, and
I just remembered the gray fish going out the CPU

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realized that that's what's going to be out the issue
something and and so now I'm crawling all over the kitchen.

Speaker 14 (01:03:25):
I remember the.

Speaker 28 (01:03:28):
Shut more than the edge of fake Yah. Got home
and they had a kitchen full of grayfish running around.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
And just to confirm, they did land at the airport,
did they? And and into cargo?

Speaker 28 (01:03:41):
Yes, yes, they and the entablay.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
Do you know what year that would have been that
you remember that? You said, you're not that old, Jody,
but you remember what year it would be.

Speaker 28 (01:03:52):
It would have been in the even probably the okay,
maybe maybe.

Speaker 18 (01:03:58):
Maybe eight like that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
I do know that once that's that Selwyn too good
was it? Because he was going to go to win
the bag at the South Seas Hotel or at the
hall there and it did crash. There was a spectacular
crash when he was in that and I think that
was sometime in the seventies as well. But someone else
might know about that. Oh my gosh, were you driving

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to Joni? It sounds terrible. Oh sorry, good on you.
That's what we love a big band. Who doesn't love
a big band? Fifteen to ten? Hold your horses, people
with you soon. Very excited about the old the poppies.
I've just looked at the old poppies. And by the way,

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I've had a word from the Bluff. I say that
for the last three years Bluff has placed the poppies
in a tray with the stuff they make the wreaths
out of, to stop the poppies blying into the sea.
Well done. So the ones in the old days weren't felt.
They were crape paper over wire. But that's good. They're
back to paper again. Brilliant. Janet's Marcus could evening and welcome.

Speaker 23 (01:05:08):
Don't they attached those poppies to anything?

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Yes they do.

Speaker 23 (01:05:12):
Ah, I think that would stop them from flying away.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
That's exactly what he said.

Speaker 23 (01:05:17):
Yes, you wouldn't want a fish swallowing wire. Pretty scary and.

Speaker 11 (01:05:26):
What have you?

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
What have you cut to the chase?

Speaker 7 (01:05:28):
Jen?

Speaker 23 (01:05:31):
Now I had one flying lesson and how to take
off and how to land and how to fly up
over a mountain range, which was all very scary, and
I didn't win the competition for free flying resends, but
the instructor said, we are all good enough to fly,

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so that was a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Was this with guides?

Speaker 6 (01:06:00):
Sorry?

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
Was this with guides?

Speaker 5 (01:06:02):
Guy?

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
Guides? Go guides?

Speaker 10 (01:06:05):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Okay, when I was an.

Speaker 23 (01:06:08):
Adult, Okay, Now I heard on our Jozia opened Israel
it's bringing back the death penalty, yes, and israil by law.
And there are roughly six thousand Palestinians in the jail,
including doctors and nurses, and there's a fear now that

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they're all going to get killed under this new law.
I'm extremely uphet about it. It's the next level of evil.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
Thank you, Jen, thanks for telling us that ten to ten,
eight to ten, Hitle twelve, Pete Marcus, good evening and
welcome who was born.

Speaker 22 (01:06:51):
And bred on a farm and dead always had one wife. Fences,
you know, with the old tenn and eised bat and
the white car standards, you know, because you have a
lot of creeks from that around on the farm, you know,
two rivers and two creeks on that you know, one
hundred and six acres. Yeah, a little which was quite
an old fencing in those days. There's the dog then
what he did in that barn of pals quite a

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little a little bit bigger. But the ones nowadays he
gets quite powerful. One's speed right and look on and
trade me. Now there eight hundred and sixty were that
w is. But they're quite strong, you know. It's quite
funny for those units in those days they've written that strong.
Those the ones, they're a lot stronger now. And then
I think they used to grab them by their thumb
and their finger, and they lot people used to do it,

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and and brother used to do it. And I said, oh,
I watched this and they do it. And I said, oh,
there's all saying no brain, no pain sort of thing,
you know, But I didn't really know. All I used
to do is get a piece of grass and go
close towards the little fence, and that way you find
out there's sometimes you get to go around and check
make sure there's was with a stop where, make sure

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there's a little fence where we were going, otherwise they
could get down the creeks or whatever. That was part
of our job. There was sort of keeping eye they
were looked their fences and make sure the tree and
fall down them or something like that. But you get
some pretty good, pretty good strong units out there now.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
Pete, you've not really got a comment on most things.
How you're coping with the fuel.

Speaker 22 (01:08:13):
Oh, I don't worry about it, Marcus. So what can
you do about it? You know, you just you know
that's gone up here in you aud here and you've
plumb up your sides. Last time I thought that was
before it started, and it was two dollars thirty nine.
But I see it's up above that now it's about
three dollars alty. Something that's going over a dollar either.

(01:08:33):
Just quite a bit of money. But then again, okay,
I can survive, you know, I not want by myself
sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
But I don't know.

Speaker 22 (01:08:40):
People will be struggling because your income.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
Pet Have you thought of buying a chovy of the
old bike?

Speaker 30 (01:08:46):
Ah?

Speaker 22 (01:08:47):
Not really at my age now, you know, paypoint and
being the richest men are in the graveyard or whatever
it is that you know you can't take it well
and you die again.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
You really can't take your bike, oh, I mean you
know you can hang on, hang on. I asked if
you thought of having a bike, and you said you
can't take it with you. Do you think you'll get
killed on the bike?

Speaker 5 (01:09:05):
Ah?

Speaker 22 (01:09:06):
I hate it's too dangerous. Last of my roade a
bike a few years ago, almost got knocked off by
this lady that cut off in the front of me.
And we've got this.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
Strip of your Dutch, aren't you? And didn't and you
put it there. You've got those fantastic bikeways.

Speaker 22 (01:09:20):
No, they're dangerous markets. They want them gone.

Speaker 6 (01:09:23):
They just they just.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
Dangerous. They're making it safe for the cyclists.

Speaker 22 (01:09:28):
No, people are hitting them, people hitting them their car tires.
I'm all that have actually created a hazard on the
road and the council are trying. But you're doing it
the New zeal And you know New Zealand Roading Authority.
The you can't just pull them out willing it. You're
going to go to the proper process to get rid
of them. But that's our aim.

Speaker 14 (01:09:47):
We're doing it now.

Speaker 22 (01:09:48):
What they're doing is they've got two white lines they
didn't put You don't put obstacles in the motor where
it's a highway.

Speaker 7 (01:09:53):
Where they put them on, its just they clearly do.

Speaker 22 (01:09:57):
There's a lot of people against the markers that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
They could be you with a bike and your Dutch
here it is you'd be happy.

Speaker 18 (01:10:03):
Is the Dutch?

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
Are the Dutch and the bikes aren't they?

Speaker 14 (01:10:06):
Oh big time?

Speaker 22 (01:10:07):
But they they got dedicated little foot paths for themselves.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
So of you now, so of you and you plumbing the.

Speaker 22 (01:10:14):
Dutch don't put don't put obstacles and motor weight, which
they happen. They just stood.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
You've gone against your you've gone against your roots.

Speaker 22 (01:10:24):
Dutch, no where a safe and night stay. You know,
I don't go out on a bike to kill myself
and get something to run the over for one of those?

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
Are you going to start somewhere? Probably even in Holland
they had start one time to realize it wasn't going
to be spot on you want to get on a bike?

Speaker 22 (01:10:38):
They planned it well over there, you know. They they
don't engage people's lives and not that stupid. They care
about people. They don't want to put people in the
way of traffict that that could get knocked over by
you know, the cyclists could people are hitting them and
what they're doing is they're falling over, hitting their shoulders
and all sorts. It's not out in the media, but you've.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
Got a blind spot when it comes to bikes and
bike ways, I like bikes, but.

Speaker 22 (01:11:04):
I'm not going to ride on the motorway with this.
I think, say, if you're riding on it, trucks going past,
you want you want to go? Come in time? You
count your plymouth, Marcus, and you just watch observe and
you gotta you gotta fifty five sixty ton truck come
to Ward and you only got probably between you and
those tin tams you've got. You're concentrating on the tin

(01:11:25):
tames and the truck comeing to ward. You, So which
is the safest?

Speaker 5 (01:11:28):
Good on you?

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
Thanks Pete Jesus. People get inflexible, don't they cheapest? Getting
touched here at midnight? Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty
something said it wasn't down having gen and peeked together. Well,
oh well it's not pick favorites, Hittle twelve. You want
to be a part of it eight hundred and eighty

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ten eighty.

Speaker 18 (01:11:51):
It's all on.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
It's all on a text, or has said Marcus. The
bike lanes and you plymouth are fantastic, although you wouldn't
believe howny motorists can't stand the lane around here? Yeah, Trace,
Thanks Trace, we're talking about Fred lad and we are
talking about Kung fu movies. Well it's been a broad
reaching show actually, and the poppies on end that day

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have gone biodegradable. They always were that way, and that's
good to know. So if you got something to add
about that. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two
to text Ross has emailed. Sometime between August nineteen sixty
two and December nineteen sixty six, when I was a

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sole teacher at the isolated White Tapu multis Schooler Rangy Point,
Fred Ladd circled around the school site on one of
his tourist promotion flights to the w Holky Younger. We
were all out waving to him. He returned us a
wing wave and dropped us in newspaper. I don't know, Yeah,
I'll be quite interested if anyone's got any more information

(01:12:57):
about amphibious planes where they regularly flew to. Now, I
don't know if they regularly went to the Hoky Younger,
but someone might know. I know they went to the
Bay of Islands, I think, and landed there and Great
Barrier and Wahiki maybe even Raquino and between Invert Cargol
and Stuart Island. I also remember watching maybe even country

(01:13:24):
calendar shows. I don't know what they were. I remember
seeing shows of floatplanes dropping off correspondent schoolwork to children
her at the lighthouse at Pusica. Some of you might
remember that so obviously in South and they'd fly them
out to Pusica. And maybe they did have a maybe

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they did have a contract on floatplanes to take out
schoolwork to the children of lighthouse keepers at remote places.
So I'm always up for the discussions about that. I
do find floatplanes fascinating. I don't know if there's a
many around anymore. There was one walking out of the
waye to Btar for a while, but I don't hear
about that so much these days. Of course, with fuel.

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All comes back to fuel, isn't it. It's ten past
ten if you want to add to that. By the way, too,
someone has text me and said that they will also
at the ANZAC day today, particularly so this year, particularly
at the the Bluff Anzac ceremony, they will be having
purple poppies as well. They are biodegradable to remember the

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animals that served in the war. And look, I don't know,
I presume that will be horses and dogs and pigeons.
I don't think New Zelanders use pigeons, but they're certainly
with pigeons used in combat for messages. I guess many
horses or those Boer Warp people that took their horses

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with them. That's what we're about. It's ten past ten.
If you want to add also, fuels always there as
a topic. Love the me if fuel, love to talk
about fuel. I worry that guy that's wide up his
car has made himself a bomb. There must be better
ways to stop your fuel being stolen. I don't know
what those are. Oh, that's what to do. That's what
I was trying to work out. Why we are talking
about Fred Ladd's standby Callers now this day. In nineteen

(01:15:16):
sixty seven, Fred Ladd flew under the Auckland Harbor Bridge,
so it's fifty eight fifty nine years ago. There you go, Hello, Shawn,
it's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 31 (01:15:26):
His favorite saying was a spray and were away, And
that was what his book was called. Yep and the
Harbord Bridge one that was very taboo. But he taching
up there for some reason, very close and.

Speaker 12 (01:15:44):
There was only one way forward, and that was under
the bridge. So he took it. Well, that's how he
got to fly under the bridge.

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
It's a long way away from where he'd take because
I presume he took off at Mechanics Bay.

Speaker 11 (01:15:56):
Is that right?

Speaker 31 (01:15:58):
Yeah, he was taxing, but there was he was putting.
He put himself into a position where there was only
one way, and that was up off the water and
under the bridge.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
Oh gosh, I'm looking at a picture of it now.
Actually he's I'm looking.

Speaker 4 (01:16:13):
At some.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
His last day. It said the temptation was in his
book the temptation was too much. Freddy celebrates his last
day with T A T by ducking under Auckland Harbor Bridge.
Now T A T would be trans What would T
A T be? I don't know what the answer that
would be.

Speaker 5 (01:16:34):
Do you know.

Speaker 12 (01:16:36):
It was the only thing you can think of trans
atlantic travel?

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
Yeah, that might be right. Have you read the book?

Speaker 31 (01:16:42):
You go no, No, But I was alive at the time,
or it was only a young man then and at
that time, so that he was quite topical.

Speaker 12 (01:16:54):
And I lived in Handy to Auckland.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
Yeah, he seems to he seemed to be beloved, but
he also seemed to be someone that was a fantastic
self promoter.

Speaker 12 (01:17:05):
Oh, yeah he was.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
He was very good at that, extremely good that.

Speaker 12 (01:17:12):
Yeah, he's very good at that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
Okay, well, nice to talk Sean, thank you for that.
We talk about Fred Laird, the Amphibian Pilot. I think
a couple of other stories I remember from the book.
Oh this year is a it's a funny read. But
he puts himself in every glowing light. He's a good read. Actually,
let's look at some of the images out of the

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book now, I think t A T was tourist air travel.
Looking at the pictures now, they must have landed at
pai here when they're in the Bay of Islands. She
just got read the whole book online. It seems to
someone seems to have taken Shotsavu Paige, Steve, it's Marcus.
Good evening and welcome.

Speaker 32 (01:17:53):
Yes, So I flew with Fred Laird when he did
one of his paper rounds around the lighthouses and the
Hierricky Golf. He drop off a newspaper a mile of
different places, kuv Or, Ireland, h out under the barrier,
his brother and sister Warwick in Roona lad at the

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why we're a hotel and we used to stay there
on holidays at times, or a nice couple of nice
brother and sister group. Everybody thought there were a couple,
but there were brother and sister. And he took me
out once to an island. And everybody says, near there's

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no island off the coast of on the on the
west coast, over on the h Well, yeah, there was
an island.

Speaker 5 (01:18:49):
Where was a.

Speaker 32 (01:18:49):
Hermit living on a little island that I'm told must
be dreaming, because there's no islands on the west western coast.
All the islands are on the east coast. Hang on,
mural Why we went and we went out quite some way,

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and he dropped off a news prayer for a bit
of mile to this hermit.

Speaker 9 (01:19:16):
Lived on an island.

Speaker 32 (01:19:17):
But all the maps I've got don't show it. How
hang on?

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
How far off the coast?

Speaker 32 (01:19:26):
Oh was some distance? And now over again. I was
only about ten at the time. Yes, distances could have
over the years got more, you know, say, yeah, sixty
years ago, because.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
My island, it wouldn't be that. There's not. Yeah, I
can't imagine where that would be.

Speaker 32 (01:19:45):
No, I can't find it on a map anywhere. But
we went over the Marrauai beach and they went out
further somewhere there anyway, there was a hermit living on
an island. He knew him. His brother Warwick bought a
house somewhere in round daga Away, oh Back for something

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and it was pulled to pieces and taken out of
this island for the sumant to live in. It was
a long time ago and I don't really know the
full facts about it, but I think he bought the island,
Warwick lead Warwick and Rona do you think so?

Speaker 7 (01:20:24):
You were?

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
The connection with him was through your through the staying
at the hotel and why the.

Speaker 32 (01:20:30):
Hotel and he used to come up onto the beach
at where we were, and then I got to ride
out with him one day. He did all this newspapers
and mail and a few surprise and that sort of
thing dropped off at different lighthouses. It was interesting. He
was a bit of a day of it that one.

Speaker 9 (01:20:51):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
I wonder if you could misremembered that.

Speaker 32 (01:20:56):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
It's got me beffeled.

Speaker 32 (01:20:59):
Yeah. They I was talking to one of the chips
that run a badge, one of McCullum brothers. Yep, they've
got badges around the place that they go around the
art different islands. I spoke to one of the chips
there and he can vaguely remember it too that he said, oh,

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I'm not sure where that was.

Speaker 18 (01:21:23):
We did we.

Speaker 32 (01:21:25):
Badged some stuff from building material out onto an island.
It might have been. Oh, could have been in the
Harricy Golf Cape, Cape Coal War somewhere. Who was just
yea off the barrier. There's a couple of small.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
Islands that people live on, Yes, there is the certainly.

Speaker 32 (01:21:46):
Is it could have been there. Yeah, did they say
as a ten year old? But I'm sure we went
out over over the west coast. But anyway, Yeah, No,
he was a nice guy and we had a lot
of hot and I had a few holidays in the
hotel at why were and set in hot FORRN. Apparently

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they're talking about setting up another one and they are it's.

Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
Going to be it's going to be a bit more
upmarket one. It's going to be in a situation where
it's going to be more a wellness retreat.

Speaker 32 (01:22:21):
Since they closed the the the adventure park and closed
off the moor there, apparently the original springs that used
to come up on the beach, they've come back to life.
We can each day walk around and sit in a
hot water.

Speaker 3 (01:22:38):
I can tell you something about that because when we
were driving back from up north this summer, right, my
brother said, go to such and such such and such road, right, yeah,
and Ocean View Road or something. And we went there
and there's a pipe that's coming out of someone's property

(01:22:59):
because I think the boar has has broken and it's
hot water coming out straight into the beach.

Speaker 9 (01:23:04):
And it was.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
But what they see you should do along the strand
is you probably best off taking a It was fine.
I dug a pool, but I think you're better off
just grabbing one of those plastic clam pools from the
warehouse and popping that there and having your soap in that.
But it was good. Yeah, where were you going from Fort?

(01:23:28):
Were you in Auckland and the holiday and at way Whara?
Is that how that happened?

Speaker 32 (01:23:31):
I lived at Auckland or where we had we had
a hat. Well, we had friends at Brown's Bay and
we used to holiday there at Brown's Bay. And I
can tell you a story about that. I was only
about eight or nine at the time. They didn't have
reticulated sewerage there all water. We had water tanks and

(01:23:54):
a long drop. And one Christmas I stayed there at
this place a batch and they put the duney on
the back porch and put a nightcat of the cannon there.
We had there for a couple of years. And then
when they eventually got the reticulation with the water and
the sewerage, they're just plummed in the old duney. Put

(01:24:15):
it in a flash tolet connected it all up. My
grandad filled in the porch and made it into a bathroom,
put a proper bath and hot order some on there. Yeah, good,
heavy memories of those early days.

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
There is an island off the west of Kafia, Redland
called carl Weather, which is Gennett Island. But I don't
think that would have been because I think it's always
been full of Gennetts, and I think we would have
known if someone.

Speaker 16 (01:24:43):
Lived on that.

Speaker 32 (01:24:44):
I don't think it was that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
No, Okay, yeah, I just thought. I just thought I
meant you that stupid thank you. Twenty one past ten. Yeah, Evan,
this is Marcus welcome.

Speaker 18 (01:24:56):
Oh yes, good, isn't it?

Speaker 5 (01:24:57):
End?

Speaker 18 (01:24:58):
Listeners reused to drop off some stores at motivle recorrector
or an old Hermit that might be where.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
It is now.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
That would be one of the islands off sands. But
is that where that is?

Speaker 18 (01:25:11):
Yeah, Marene Harbor sort of just out off there.

Speaker 5 (01:25:13):
By kow Ow.

Speaker 3 (01:25:16):
Was it when you were fishing?

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (01:25:18):
Yeah, And we used to go to the farmhouse at
Eric have a bit of a feed there. And there
is an island up the top of the North Island
on the west coast, the close.

Speaker 3 (01:25:31):
Clos like off the coast of ninety mile Beach.

Speaker 18 (01:25:36):
Yeah, up that way.

Speaker 4 (01:25:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 29 (01:25:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
I've been fortunateough to land on that on a helicopter
coming back from Rail Island. I think with one of
those ones. I think one of those ones was quite
heavily bombed during World War II for practice when there
was the Air Force base at White Papa Cody. Is
that where it was.

Speaker 18 (01:25:54):
If anybody's got any sphere of pushbokes in your garage,
maybe you paid to put them out the front. People
might want to ride them.

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
Good thing to say.

Speaker 18 (01:26:01):
Good thing you're saying, because they'll help the fuel life
a few people on bikes.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
I've always been very curious about Ered Island. That's obviously
on the east coast of Great Barrier Phlly Hard to
get onto.

Speaker 5 (01:26:14):
Was it?

Speaker 18 (01:26:15):
Uh Haard Coase? Quite sheltered and.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
There's a harbor, and I think it's all been it's
all been put into bush, now would that be right?

Speaker 18 (01:26:25):
I haven't been there for quite a while, but it
was a farm back back in the day. We walked
up to the top. But they are husband and wife
and then we put on quite a good feed when
we went ashore.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
Did you did they have a flag?

Speaker 18 (01:26:37):
That was when I was about ten or right?

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
You know, did you grow up on the sea?

Speaker 5 (01:26:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (01:26:42):
I started fishing with my father at six years old
out of Tall Bay, well, okay, right next to Browns Bay.

Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
The reason I ask you about Eric Island, right, And
I don't know. I don't know what you if you've
got an appetite for a boring anecdote from the book,
I remember of fred Ladd's right, But Eric Island has
a flag. And the reason it has a flag is
because Fred lad had to drop off a starter motor
right for the farm and he flew flew over it

(01:27:10):
and dropped the starter motor and it landed plum on
their prize bull's head and killed them off. And that
is apparently the errand and and that says, I say,
Fred Legs lead stories haven't corroborated it, but that is
the flag is a and I think the flag is
a dead bull. I'm not quite sure, but that's the
story from the book that I can remember.

Speaker 18 (01:27:32):
There was a it's very steep a that island. We
used to go there quite regular for dinner. I can't
find I was quite young, so I was just sitting
in the background sort of thing and they were having
a few ales.

Speaker 12 (01:27:45):
What were that?

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
What were fishing for? The old man?

Speaker 18 (01:27:47):
Long line snapper?

Speaker 12 (01:27:48):
Exports of Japan?

Speaker 18 (01:27:50):
Well, yeah, year myself out of the roduct.

Speaker 12 (01:27:55):
It's second Japan.

Speaker 18 (01:27:58):
When I started long lining, out of the roduct, I was.
We shifted from Torbay to the duct that was easier
to get ice and stuff. I was doing fifty a
year export to Japan.

Speaker 3 (01:28:08):
Well on myself, what happened to all your money?

Speaker 18 (01:28:12):
It's been all stolen, Marcus. My best price was forty
two dollars a kilo, and then they started paying me three.

Speaker 7 (01:28:22):
Wow.

Speaker 19 (01:28:23):
How you.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
Been a fisherman right? What percentage of the cost of
fish is fuel? I'm just thinking about the fuel going
up so much now diesel, I mean.

Speaker 18 (01:28:34):
Oh, for long lining not so bad.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
But what about for the Condish cod fisher what about
cod fisheries down south?

Speaker 18 (01:28:42):
Well, how they catching a trawling big field rules. There's
a time that bloody big net and so they've got.

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
To have a bit of power on, you know, so
there'd be a big yeah, okay, would it be ten percent?
Do you think we wouldn't know?

Speaker 18 (01:28:54):
Well, probably a lot more.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
Than that now, okay, okay, good to talk. Even appreciate that.
Thank you. Hope you find your money. I can't find
a picture of the flag of the Dead Bull, but
I remember story. Well, yeah, it's an amazing island, but
it's now been vegetated forrest. What do they call it?
You know when they reeled regenerate it. Hold your horse

(01:29:16):
if you want to come through here till twelve o'clock.
He is radio Catnet Fred LaGG, but Fred Ladd. People
love talking about him. We don't talk about Fred three
often on the show. The only friends we've talked about
have been Fred Dagg and Freddie Fender. If ever I
changed the theme tune, I probably would go before the
next tiered rock falls.

Speaker 5 (01:29:36):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
I love Freddy Fender. In Fat Deck Sue, we spoke
when he did the Freddy Fender Show. On the show,
we spoke to people that had toured with him when
he came to his head and picked up some session
musicians from christ Church. Very interesting lover's voice getting a
lot of texts about Fred Ladd. Another text says, I

(01:29:57):
was one of the first students at Cargyl Open Planned
School and talko and Fred came in as playing full
a venda the early days of the school. My mother
was a teacher. I have a feeding that one of
the tea just had a connection with him, so thanks
for that. Fred Ladd used to visit Cornwallace Beach in
the fifties, take people for joy ride, landing and take

(01:30:18):
off of the beach with his famous saying a shower
of spray and we're away. Lynette, this is Marcus. Good evening,
Hi Marcus, how are you. You're good, Lynette?

Speaker 33 (01:30:31):
That's cool.

Speaker 7 (01:30:32):
How are you right?

Speaker 33 (01:30:34):
Yeah, yeah, I'm good. I just heard from my sister before.
Actually that you mentioned frying to stud Island was a.

Speaker 34 (01:30:44):
Five year old.

Speaker 3 (01:30:46):
Oh yeah, I think so.

Speaker 33 (01:30:47):
Yeah, I'm the five year old. The pilot was Fred
lag Sure, yep. I won the Talent Junior Talank Quest
at the Window Show Winter Show in Argle in nineteen

(01:31:07):
sixty two.

Speaker 3 (01:31:09):
Goodness, and the prize was a trip to Stuart Island,
was it?

Speaker 35 (01:31:13):
Yes?

Speaker 11 (01:31:13):
It was No.

Speaker 3 (01:31:17):
You see, I don't think we knew that he was
actual pilot that flew to Stuart Island. But you would
know about that, wouldn't you? But must have?

Speaker 33 (01:31:24):
Oh shit, No, I wouldn't know about that because I
am only five years old.

Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
Very good, Okay, thank you for that winning. It's Marcus.
Good evening and welcome.

Speaker 34 (01:31:34):
Oh good evening, Marcus.

Speaker 23 (01:31:35):
Thank you.

Speaker 34 (01:31:37):
Hang on a moment, I'll get my husband to turn
the radio off.

Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
Good on the husband.

Speaker 4 (01:31:45):
I think I've spoken to you before, you have.

Speaker 26 (01:31:50):
It's from grape Berrier Island.

Speaker 34 (01:31:51):
Oh well, yeah, pretty lad Days. I was here from
start to prison, the Finagh of Revery lad Days, and
I i'd still here, so I know about him. I
was agent for him at one stage when he became

(01:32:13):
a land pilot and daught his amphibian and at Clara's Airport,
and I was his agent there at that particular time.
I was flying out in an emergency one night with
Freddy Ladd and they put all the carlights around the
airfield and bought the plane and down to land there

(01:32:35):
and went to Auckland when I was having my babies
with him. Flew to Mercury Island one day and it
was pretty stormy on the way to Auckland, and I'm
sitting up front there with him, and it was a
bit rough and I'm sort of trying to hang onto
the seat and we've got a big bump, and he
put his hand out and put it on me and says,

(01:32:55):
ride him, cowboys. Never forget that he has me ready
to drop a baby.

Speaker 5 (01:33:03):
In the rough weather.

Speaker 34 (01:33:06):
He havn't a bit of a laugh about the door.
Fantastic guy.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
And so when when he when he was that with
the baby, right, yeah?

Speaker 34 (01:33:16):
And I came back with the baby.

Speaker 3 (01:33:18):
Where did you land?

Speaker 34 (01:33:20):
We landed it at Mechanics Bace.

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
Okay. So I'm just not quite clear what did he have,
would he because I know, I know great barrier they
land at the bays on the east coast. Would they
also land at the airstrip as well?

Speaker 4 (01:33:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 34 (01:33:38):
They did not very often. Then he he must have
got a license to do that, and he was he
was lying in and out of then, and I was
his agent actually when he was doing it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:55):
And how how long?

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
And was there an ambulance waiting at Mechanics Bay to
take you to the hospital.

Speaker 4 (01:34:00):
That's right?

Speaker 3 (01:34:01):
Yes, Wow, what an amazing story. Yeah.

Speaker 34 (01:34:08):
Well, I've been on a Great Barrier all my life.
I'm ninety now and I've lived here all my life.

Speaker 26 (01:34:15):
Nowhere else?

Speaker 34 (01:34:16):
So do you want to know anything about Great Barrier
Island for the last one, I'll say eighty years. I
know a bit about it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
I bet you do. I bet you do.

Speaker 5 (01:34:28):
Do you fly?

Speaker 7 (01:34:29):
Do you fly?

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
Do you fly back and Ford much? Or do you
stay there? Pretty much?

Speaker 4 (01:34:32):
Now?

Speaker 34 (01:34:33):
Too expensive?

Speaker 20 (01:34:34):
Now we've just heard that.

Speaker 34 (01:34:39):
It'll cost you five hundred dollars one way.

Speaker 3 (01:34:42):
Now you're joking.

Speaker 34 (01:34:44):
No, I'm not joking.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
You can fly to Sydney for that.

Speaker 9 (01:34:48):
Hmm.

Speaker 34 (01:34:50):
Yeah, but this is special out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
Have you been here often? But I wonder if that
might wonder that that might actually save Great Barrier, mightn't it?
It might mean that the keeps the messes away.

Speaker 34 (01:35:01):
I don't think the Barrier is ever going to change
that much, because why he's you can travel between Auckland
and why he can get a job, but not out here.
I said that Peter Waters just a little bit of
a little bit of a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:35:17):
Were you were you on a farm when you in
you most of your life?

Speaker 17 (01:35:20):
Yep, okay, it's still great here here.

Speaker 3 (01:35:26):
Chacka lovely to hear you. When you thank you, I'll
leave it there, but nice to talk to you. Thank
you for that. Twenty four to eleven, twenty one to eleven,
Paul ats Marcus Welcome, good evening, Good.

Speaker 11 (01:35:37):
Maugus, good evening. I grew up on Cheltenham Beach. I
lived in the reception lounger called Cheltenham Chaosk and fred
Dagg used to come into the beach and take people
off in this plane for a scenic ride around north
Head and then back again.

Speaker 31 (01:35:58):
Wow.

Speaker 11 (01:35:58):
When I was a young fellow, and I decided I
like that, so I climbed on board, to my mother's disgust,
and she looked up with the plane took off and
there's a little fellow sitting in the back of the
plane and off for a ride. Was Yeah. The only
time I had him, he was really good.

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
So he just come out. He just go to all
the beaches and just charge people. I guess that's what
you did when you had a plane like that. You
had to make your own kind of your business.

Speaker 11 (01:36:24):
Yeah, no, he just flying to the beach and guys
just want to go for a ride, and they jumping
away they went, and so they jump out taken for ride,
and he's just dropping back off at the beach again.

Speaker 3 (01:36:35):
In the early sixties and your parents. What was the
place called.

Speaker 5 (01:36:38):
It was called the lating the reception lounge.

Speaker 3 (01:36:42):
Oh, yeah, I think, and that's is it still there?

Speaker 6 (01:36:46):
It's still there?

Speaker 11 (01:36:47):
Yeah, I think it's called mc hughes.

Speaker 3 (01:36:48):
Now I have I have been to a wedding there.

Speaker 12 (01:36:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:36:52):
I lived there for twenty one years with my family.
Jumped out of the bedroom straight on the beach and
lived on the beach there. It was great fun.

Speaker 3 (01:36:59):
So was your accommodation upstairs there or no where.

Speaker 11 (01:37:04):
Where it is where the bar was behind there where
we had there was three bedrooms, parents room and basically
they lived there. We lived there all the time and
did weddings and all that back in the day.

Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
He's going to ask, mainly mainly weddings, was it.

Speaker 11 (01:37:20):
Well, I know, lines, police balls, all sorts of things.
They worked most weekends and quite quite a few nights
during the weeks and that sort of thing. They were
pretty pretty hard at it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
And when you were talking for those that don't know,
if you look at it, it's not just back from
the beach. It's actually right on the beach. I mean
you could it'd be the it'd be the closest. Yeah,
it's amazing. The location is that.

Speaker 11 (01:37:46):
Yeah, I could jump out of a bedroom window and
walk three places on the on the free free steps
and on the beach. And we used to while they
were working and there. We used to catch the valley
and all that because it was full of pippies back
in the day, and do a lot of fishing there
and it was great. It was good fun. And when
you're talking about that old follow that were was on

(01:38:07):
the island that was made a wreck of Recer Island
that he used to float it, there's an old dude
that lived on there and used to drop stuff off
to him. We used to do a lot of y offerings,
so we go and stay there, but that we paid
about stay and you always row out, row out, one
of the gets a beer and that sort of thing.
I think he ended up going blind in the end
with a drink of well. Yeah, in the end, it

(01:38:30):
was mess or where we could get old of off
the bodies. So yeah, but he lived there for years
and years and years.

Speaker 18 (01:38:36):
He was a nice little there, nice to talk.

Speaker 3 (01:38:38):
Thanks for I because they might have been snow. Someone's
texted about that. We haven't none whomits for a while,
but everyone seemed to have met them. You live on
an island and drink myths where it gets round in
it anyway. Eight hundred and eighty eight, eighteen to eleven.
James ats Marcus, good evening.

Speaker 12 (01:38:54):
Hey, Marca's good.

Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
Thank you, James.

Speaker 12 (01:38:57):
Yeah about a bit of olypics story. I know you
like a good story.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
Yeah, sounding good. I'm liking your lafe anyway.

Speaker 20 (01:39:10):
So when we were younger at boarding school and what
have you and Hawk's Bay, so we have you know,
teams come down and place spoil cricket and rugby from Auckland, Welliamson,
Hamilton or wherever. So Dad would get us all up
there on Friday evening once they got here on Saturday

(01:39:32):
after spot, but normally on Friday, and get us up
there and get these three boys to grab hold of
the electric fence. And I don't know if you've ever
heard of Harry where, but he invented the where's the key?
We take full of the techno system. So we had
pretty decent current running through the electric fences back there,

(01:39:54):
you know, five six seven thousand old.

Speaker 11 (01:39:57):
So so.

Speaker 20 (01:40:00):
If they were and if they were too scared to
grab the fence, would sort of do the old chain shame,
you know, Dad or one of us boys would grab
it and then have two or three of us and
then put the billets on the end of it. And
so I don't know what it is, but if you
have a whole lot of you in person, it's a

(01:40:23):
really good whack. I would put them on the end
of it. And oh, they wouldn't know what when they're
coming coming down out of the cities, but you'd probably
here get a good final God knows what would happen
nowadays if you were doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:40:37):
With kids, I think it was quite I think even
I read on whose book was I reading? I think
I read about Stephen Fry's autobiography when he wasn't boarding school.
That seemed to be a thing that everyone grabbed hold
of the fence and grabbed hold the last person and
then get zipped.

Speaker 20 (01:40:54):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know how it went how it
went down when they went up home, but anyway, we
never never got reported or anything. Yeah, a little bit
of fun dack when you're younger.

Speaker 3 (01:41:12):
Good story, James, thanks for sixteen to eleven. Good evening, Will.
This is Marcus Welcome, good evening.

Speaker 15 (01:41:21):
Are you tonight?

Speaker 3 (01:41:22):
Good things?

Speaker 5 (01:41:22):
Will? I just sort of tell you a bit about
the in FIBs that we used to flying over to
Stuart Island back in the seventies. I happened to be
a fisheries inspector and used to go over there to
inspect the factories over on the island and we used

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to fly up within the Cargile Airport. My pilot was
a man called Johnny Hessett, and we used to take
off from the grass one runway on the south side
of the terminal, take off there and fly over to
the island and land in Halfmoon Bay. It was a

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bit rough of there was a few rollers around. The
plane actually went under the water, and some days when
it was calm, it just landed and just drove straight
up onto the beach outside the South Seast Hotel and
the pilot would get out and pull out the steps
out the back of the plane and there used to
be about five or six of us on board each time,

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and I think they used to carry a weaver at
of freight as well. They used to pick up fresh fish,
and later on they were picking up press capers and
delivering them to the Caagi Airport chilled crape fish. But

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most of the time it didn't matter the weather, the
plane still still seemed to go. It was a grumb
and woidge and.

Speaker 3 (01:42:59):
Yeah, and you wouldn't get because the fairy was an
old kind of a dog of a thing.

Speaker 9 (01:43:03):
Is that right.

Speaker 5 (01:43:06):
It was like it was like a corp bouncing around
on it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:09):
Yeah, I've heard, I've heard about that. That's the way.

Speaker 23 (01:43:13):
That was the way.

Speaker 5 (01:43:14):
Were no stabilizers, know nothing, and you had to sit
out on the deck to get the fresh air. If
you sat below you got inundated by the diesel fumes,
and many a person got asphyxiated by that and got
seasick and all sorts of things. And we had we

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had the best of the seats on the back of
the boat. We used to sit up there and enjoy
the ride. On a few occasions we took the boat.

Speaker 3 (01:43:47):
Why would you take the boat because it was too
rough to learn the plane.

Speaker 5 (01:43:51):
Well, the boat. The boat was a regular occurrence with
the plane. We used to fly on a Monday morning
was my first shift. I used to go over there. Unfortunately,
later on one of my college was on board one
of the planes that crashed and straight and he subsequently

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died in the hospital a few weeks later. That's when
busy searching for the plane and didn't have a clue
what they were doing, and they thought there was a
plane coming in from the east. They forgot all about
the Southern airplane coming in from Steward Olive that just
ran out of pill and ditched in the sea.

Speaker 3 (01:44:37):
I know I know a bit about that because every
time I walk around Bluff Hill there is the there
was a heartbreaking monument there about the boy that was
into soccer and stuff. And yeah, you're quite right. They
got it wrong, didn't They'd rung search and miss you
had been demitted. They'd changed in the office was in
christ juch or something had rang up there and they
were looking in the wrong place because.

Speaker 5 (01:44:56):
The people, well a lot had to do with the
silly idiot that went up into the controlled tower at
the airport and got it all wrong. In fact, if
it hadn't been for the coast Guard from Riverton that
knew exactly what was going on and headed how high
tailed it to bluff. There would have been a lot

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more fatalities. He saved a lot of people's lives that
day or that afternoon, I should say, who was later
in the afternoon. And it took an awful long time
for people to actually realize the plane was actually overdue
and go.

Speaker 4 (01:45:36):
Looking for it.

Speaker 5 (01:45:37):
I'd read the log and found out exactly where the
plane was coming from. Not so many people would have
pierced in the freezing waters of Povo straight.

Speaker 3 (01:45:51):
Yeah, nice to hear from you. Well, thank you for that.
That was heartbreaking night away from a living head on midnight.

Speaker 18 (01:45:57):
Thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:45:57):
Well, well we're there. We are back in our wheelhouse.
We got amphibious planes and islands and anything else you
want to mention while we talk. Oh, we're talking about
Fred Ladd who it was this day in nineteen sixty
seven that he flew his plane under the Harbor Bridge. Now,
I think it might have been quite a big deal.

(01:46:18):
I don't know the full I don't think he lost
his license. That's a big story. And probably if you
made a list of New Zealand's most famous aviators would
probably go Jean Baton, Fred Ladd, I'm not quite sure
if that's right. I might be missing some esteemed war
heroes like check Its or someone, but certainly as far

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as people in their civilian flying. But we are talking
about tonight, and if you want to talk about that,
that's the plans stand text. If you want to, Oh,
it's good to get onto a groove Marcus. I got
to Merlbourt six pointirty tonight and Uber is doing petrol surcharges.
How would they work?

Speaker 18 (01:46:58):
Ben?

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
I'm surprised you're not doing them there here? Marcus Wasted
Days and Wasted Nights held the New Zealand record for
the weeks at number one for decades, twelve weeks, only
beaten by Parral with the song Happy for Memory that
was fourteen weeks. Freddy's was probably the biggest seller for
more than twelve weeks. Is back then the charts weren't
published over the summer break. You always enjoy a Freddy

(01:47:22):
friend tonight, although it's not tonight. Eleven o seven here
till twelve people, if you want to talk, that would
be great. And we are talking about fred Ladd. Was
this day that he flew out of the Harbor Bridge,
this day in nineteen sixty seven. That's where we're talking
about Fred there. That's the thing that's happening there. I

(01:47:44):
can also tell you that thanks the person that texted
me about this. I see the news websites are reporting
it now. Sir Barry Curtis, who helped shape Monaco as
he's in his longest serving mayor, has died at the
age of eighty seven. He was the mayor of Monaco
for twenty four years. For those that don't know, that
was it was one of the cities of Auckland before

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Auckland became a super city. I don't know if it
was always the mayor of Monacaw then he was the
mayor of Monicoe City, but he was as the longest
serving mayor and he's in for a long long time
until I think obviously Sir Tim Schabelt was the mayor
in ver Cargo for a long time. But yes, as

(01:48:30):
I say, he has died today. And Buckland's Beach in
Eastern Beach, that's we've lived. There's a big park at
Flatbush it's named after him too, so Barry Curtis Park
as juse, it's just through. So thanks for the person
that texted me that Murray, it's Marcus. Welcome, good evening,
Hi Murray. You're on about Fred Laird.

Speaker 9 (01:48:52):
Yeah, well I knew Fred pretty well.

Speaker 3 (01:48:55):
Oh god ah, where do you want to start?

Speaker 9 (01:49:05):
Well, he had the Amphibians, Amphibium Mechanics Bay, and then
Mount Cook took over. Then there was some a few
pilots and a couple of engineers that work for Mount Cook.
When Mount Cook were going to get rid of the

(01:49:27):
Mechanics Bay facility, they said, well, why don't you guys
buy it? So we did, and of course we had
Fred was often in our offices being his normal self.

Speaker 5 (01:49:44):
Fact, what was he?

Speaker 21 (01:49:45):
What was he like?

Speaker 26 (01:49:45):
Murray?

Speaker 3 (01:49:46):
Was he sort of.

Speaker 9 (01:49:48):
Either said jovial, hail fellow, Well met man, a great
pr men.

Speaker 3 (01:49:56):
People talk about you, you'd remember them.

Speaker 9 (01:49:59):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean they wouldn't remember any of us.
And we were there at Mechanics Bay longer than Fred was,
but everybody remembers Fred.

Speaker 3 (01:50:11):
Was here a good pilot, it was, Yeah, I mean flying.

Speaker 9 (01:50:18):
The Amphibians was different than flying a floatplane. A boat
could fly a floatplane, but he may not be able
to fly the Amphibian. Most anybody can with a bit
of practice, can fly the land planes. But then whole
planes are different than floatplanes and of course land planes.

(01:50:38):
And I'd say fifty percent of the boats that come
along to fly weren't able to do all the jobs.

Speaker 3 (01:50:46):
So, just so you know, because I'm just keeping up now,
there'd be a floatplane is like assess and with floats
on them, but an amphibian the base is like a boat,
isn't it to cut through the waves? Is that right?
The laymen?

Speaker 12 (01:50:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:51:00):
Well, yeah, the floatplane. If you can land a land plane,
you can land the floatplane, but you are not. Just
because you ran the floatplane, you'd have the water skills,
but you wouldn't have the skills to land a whole plane. Initially,
I mean you'd have a head start on anybody who

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hadn't been in the water.

Speaker 3 (01:51:23):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 9 (01:51:26):
It was interesting and as I was saying, probably fifty
percent of the blokes who had to go wouldn't make it,
you know, they just had to let them go. But hey,
just that's just the fact of life.

Speaker 3 (01:51:43):
What was difficult about it?

Speaker 9 (01:51:46):
Oh, well, to control them in the pitch plane was
the hardest thing. And once they got out of control,
there was only one thing to do is close the
sluddles to sit back and hold on.

Speaker 3 (01:51:59):
Yeah, okay, Well I had seen one sailing once on
the water matter. We saw one kind of crash and
it wasn't a it was quite fromdic to see.

Speaker 9 (01:52:07):
I'm sure it would be here. Yeah, yeah, anyway, so.

Speaker 3 (01:52:15):
That was it was it called sea, but it was
when you brought what was the airline that you started
called cbere okay, and what you would have gone for
about twenty years?

Speaker 4 (01:52:24):
Did you?

Speaker 9 (01:52:25):
Yes? I think it was twenty years around about twenty years.
But we had a bet of help on the on
the way through or some pretty influential people assisting us,
like member Trevor Farmer certainly was one who helped us out.

(01:52:47):
Sure on the way through, and.

Speaker 3 (01:52:49):
The planes would have been ond there'd be a lot
of maintenance for them.

Speaker 9 (01:52:51):
Would there a great deal of maintenance? Yes, there was.
I mean anything in salt water, and then if you
take an airplane in salt water, that's as hard as
it gets from my recollection of it.

Speaker 3 (01:53:08):
Were you a pilot yourself, Murray, Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:53:11):
I've done about twenty thousand airs.

Speaker 3 (01:53:15):
I've always had a question. I once went to Great
Barrier on the cb A right, and we must have
landed at the top bay is that port Fitzroy.

Speaker 9 (01:53:25):
Fitzroy would be the top Yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (01:53:27):
Then we must have come down and landed it two
other bays on the way down as we went out.
What would the other do to.

Speaker 23 (01:53:36):
It?

Speaker 9 (01:53:36):
Probably?

Speaker 3 (01:53:37):
Yeah, And I remember the flight quite well because there
were greyhound dogs or someone had some great Dane dogs
on the flight as well.

Speaker 9 (01:53:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you picked them up. It fit the
boys from Fitzroy. Actually they come out from smoke House Bay.

Speaker 7 (01:53:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:53:52):
But I reckon as we went from Fitzroy to Funger Power,
I reckon we hit trees.

Speaker 26 (01:54:00):
Would that be right?

Speaker 9 (01:54:01):
Or if I mentioned that, well, I don't imagine you
hit them on purpose?

Speaker 3 (01:54:08):
No, but would that be something you reckon that would
be that would be an exaggeration.

Speaker 9 (01:54:15):
You would be very close to the trees on approach.

Speaker 3 (01:54:19):
Yeah, okay, I've always wanted to.

Speaker 9 (01:54:21):
Always because you had to sometimes get in close to
the shore to get in the car water to land,
so you'd be very close to the trees. You never
had any defined approaches. You just have to take whatever
was most suitable for the day, so you had a

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multitude of angles you could land on and always depended
upon the wind.

Speaker 3 (01:54:49):
So the pilots never came home and said, oh, I
think we've had a tree that you've better check the
bottom of the plane. That didn't happen. No, okay, I'll
discount that. Hey, what happened to those? How many planes
did you have at c beer Ah?

Speaker 9 (01:55:03):
I think we would have had six at one stage,
but we were operating a couple off shore too, up in.
The British government got us to go up to Tavaru
and operate up there for them. But I see photos

(01:55:24):
and the books that one of the boys writing us
about five aircraft on the tarnak At Mechanics Bay, and
I think we had a couple off shore in Fiji
at the time as well.

Speaker 3 (01:55:39):
And would any of those still be flying?

Speaker 9 (01:55:42):
There? Is one of the ones we sold overseas. It
lasted one day, I think, and a bloke sunk it
out in the somewhere. And there's a bloke in the
Bay of Islands, got rebuilt one beautiful job at you know,

(01:56:05):
mint condition, and he just keeps on the land. I
doubt very much we ever put it back in the water.
So is that the only operation operational aircraft I know of?
That's well, it's the only one in New Zealand's flying.

Speaker 3 (01:56:23):
So were they were they Gumma Wigeons or Gumma goose?
What were they called the ones you had?

Speaker 9 (01:56:28):
Well, yeah, there was Grumman Wigeons were the sixth the ones, yes,
and they were new special to New Zealand. And then
in New Zealand did a modification on them and put
some engines on them to bring a bit more horsepower
on them. But then the grumm And Gooses they were

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they were original out of America. And then we had
one turbine powd Goose as well, which we used purposely
built for or purchased for Tavalu to operate up in
the Pacific.

Speaker 3 (01:57:09):
So would any of those type of planes be still
flying in the world. There could be some.

Speaker 9 (01:57:13):
I understand this. Four grum And Goose is flying in
the world. The last time I flew one was out
of Exegative Airport in Florida, and I remember going down
and landing in Biscayne Bay in it and that's the
last time that I ever flew a Goose And I

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can't remember the Wedgards were either sold. I think we
one went to Australia and I remember taking the turbine
goose back to a bloke in Cleveland, and I know
that it's still around okay.

Speaker 3 (01:57:56):
And with those would the planes that would have I
don't know if you know this, but with the planes
that would have flown too Stuart Island and to service
the lighthouses in the fjords of Fjord and would they
be grummings.

Speaker 9 (01:58:10):
Yeah, that was when we purchased them or Mount Cook.
We purchased the Stuart Island as well, and we give
that to their boys and in the cargo and Keith
Smith and the Ray Hector and a few other blokes

(01:58:30):
eventually put a strip in at Stuart Island and they
were they were able to give us the widgeon back.

Speaker 3 (01:58:38):
That's right, and Murray just before we better cover it off.
Would did actually it worked that Fred Ladd would pretend
to be a passenger and then fly the plane. Was
that something he did or was that something he did
once or that would do it regularly and freak people out.

Speaker 9 (01:58:56):
Well, I never actually flew with Fred like I flew
with him occasionally, but I never worked with him. But
I believe that he would have got up to plenty
of tricks, knowing he would be he had so that
bloke could be sitting in the back and oh the

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pilot's not.

Speaker 3 (01:59:17):
Coming all take it can't be that difficult.

Speaker 9 (01:59:20):
Yeah, you can't be that that. That would be Fred's style.

Speaker 3 (01:59:26):
Freaking out, wouldn't it. And when the planes flew it
was my recollection that there was quite a there was
quite a lot to do for the pilot with winding
stuff up and doing things once they got out of
the water. Is that right? If I misremembered those it
seemed at to be quite mechanical.

Speaker 5 (01:59:41):
Ah.

Speaker 9 (01:59:43):
Well, it was unusual from the point of view that
you you put your wheels up to take off as
opposed to post to putting them down for landing. You
always had to have your wheels up, and anybody who
actually landed with them down had big trouble. And in fact,

(02:00:07):
I think I've got a gut feeling that there was
a radio host of some sourn too, Yes.

Speaker 3 (02:00:15):
Yes, yes, yes, and Stuart Island they were going I
recalled that they were going to do it in the
bag there or something. That's right, isn't it.

Speaker 9 (02:00:22):
Oh? Yeah, And they landed with the wheels now, oh
that's what it was, kept up with the wheels there,
which they would do the wedgeon would just flip over.
But if you did it in the goose, the nose
would break all of them. That was fatal.

Speaker 3 (02:00:42):
Yeah, I look into that. Hey, look, I really appreciate
you talking, Murray. Thank you for every much for that.
That's great, that's sound fantastic to hear all that. Let's
keep going, but we're better move on, but love you
to talk to you. Thank you, Murray. Twenty one past eleven, No,
there we go, twenty three past eleven. People welcome. If
you want to be on air, that would be nice
to hear from you tonight. If you want to get
through our aviation and Fred Ladd this day and sixty

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seven flew under the Harbor Bridge, and if you want
to talk about anything to do with this aviation, as
we're also of actually be in a broad show. I've
talked about Kung Fu movies and car parking and all
manner of stuff. There's something you want to mention before
the end. Would love to hear from your people. All
the lines are free eight hundred eighty ten eighty and

(02:01:25):
nine to nine two to text, so do get in
touch if you want to talk anything else you want
to mention to talk about be nice to hear from you,
real good to talk about the islands tonight and aviation.
And I forgot there was a diff between amphibious planes
and floatplanes, because of course there's a difference. We know, God,
floatplanes landing on the sea. I think that's for lake
to lake sort of stuff. But yes, if you want

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to talk, that's the planned people get in touch. There's
anything else you want to mention, anything goes for the
final forty so eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine
two nine two to text term beverage on from well tonight.
You can try a lot with them at April Full's Day.

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I wouldn't know, no host needs that, but get in touch. Yeah,
I think it's always become a bit of a drag
April Full's Day. Now, that to me, although no doubt.
If there's something hilaria, I'll pick up the paper tomorrow
and see what the hilarious story is. There might be
one Marcus that story is true about Fred pretend to
be a passenger there, get up and be the part
he liked a joke. Rosie is for those that you
do know, you can get his book. It's available. I'm

(02:02:33):
quite often at second handships, something of spray and wear away.
That was what he used to say when he took off.
One of the great self promoters, Sarah, this is Marcus.
Good evening, Good evening, Marcus. I hope, yes, thank you, yes,
very good, Thank you, Sarah.

Speaker 26 (02:02:50):
Great, very interesting hearing about the aviation my great hound letters.
It's the first woman to get a pilot's license in
Australia and she was also an ambulance driver during the war.

(02:03:12):
That's just one fact and the experience. I don't know
if this is relevant to your discussion, but as a
nature old child, we went over to Australia and the Wanganilla.

Speaker 5 (02:03:25):
Wow, have you ever been in? No?

Speaker 3 (02:03:29):
I do know the wogan Ela became a I do
know the wo became a a hostel ship when they
built the power station at Manaputi. That's mainly what I
know about that.

Speaker 26 (02:03:41):
Oh, there's a great journey in the wan from Auckland
to Sydney and what I've made you're a member of
that trip. As a nature old was seeing the movie
Three Coins in a Function. Do you remember that movie?

Speaker 3 (02:03:57):
I've got No, I've heard of it, but no, that's
before my time.

Speaker 26 (02:04:01):
I think is what's your favorite film?

Speaker 3 (02:04:05):
Oh, that's a reconfront in question this time of the night.
I don't know what the answer would be. I always
liked the movie called The River's Edge. I don't know
if that would be my favorite, that would be up there.
I don't think I've got a I don't think i've
got a straight off the bad answer for that one?
Would you one? Would you one be three Coins in
a Fountain?

Speaker 29 (02:04:24):
No?

Speaker 9 (02:04:25):
After Africa I loved.

Speaker 26 (02:04:27):
I never saw that, and but Cassidy and the Sundance because.

Speaker 3 (02:04:33):
I didn't see the one. Yeah, I kind of think
it's a bit said that I haven't got a favorite
movie you. I find that quite a confronting question.

Speaker 9 (02:04:41):
Actually, truth true.

Speaker 26 (02:04:44):
I don't think I really have a favorite.

Speaker 3 (02:04:47):
That's good to know. I'm going to work on it
next time someone asks me, i'd like to have a
movie I'm gonna be proud of seeing is my favorite?
Because you can tell a lot from someone about their
favorite film.

Speaker 26 (02:04:57):
I didn't remember the first storm Iver saw was Peter
and Wendy. Okay, remember the Amazing pen and when you're
flying up the windows?

Speaker 5 (02:05:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:05:12):
Did they show? Was there a picture theater on the Waganella?

Speaker 4 (02:05:15):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (02:05:16):
Okay, and what what were you going to Sydney for, Sarah.

Speaker 26 (02:05:20):
I'll just stay with uncle and aunts. It's oh where
was oh so long ago? It's hard to remember. We
went to learn the Park and that was amazing.

Speaker 3 (02:05:31):
Okay, yeah, I've never been there, but lovely to talk Sarah.
Thank you for coming through. It's half past eleven. Someone
has just texted and said, really enjoyed Murray's call. You
asked him if he'd done the flying twenty thousand hours?
Was his reply? To give you some context. That's two years,
three months. Yeah, I like, I thought it was very

(02:05:53):
dead pen. I liked all of that, all of what
he had to say. Yeah, So yeah, there we go.
Marcus Odds are on that the reshuffle might see slux
and stand down. Do you think there's timing is right
to do this before the lecture? But none of them
come across as leaders. Yes, I don't know. There has
been a There has been a political poll come out tonight,

(02:06:17):
and I don't really necessarily think that. Well, if you
want to know what it is, I'll let you know.
It is a Roy Morgan pole, which is one of
the less accurate ones. But sometimes if I read out
the results of political polls. People along go oh. He
only reads them out if it's good for nancially. He
only reads about if it's bad for nancial. If you

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do want to know, I can tell you it's it's
not there with shattering. There's probably be a lot of
discussion about that tomorrow on the on the airlines. Anyway,
we are talking aviation. It's been a broad and full night.
So if you've got more store stories. I've always loved
those planes growing up and orcan always seeing them take
off from Mechanics Bank because we always spend our holidays

(02:07:02):
on Waihiki at Putickipa, which was just over the hell
from Surfdow. That's where the always coming and land, apart
from when the winds were the other way and they're
going to Audioaa or Pumpea on you I think, so
you always saw them and kind of amazing that really
then airline would work going to Wahiki. But I guess
when you've got old fairies like the Buruna, it was

(02:07:23):
a lot quicker and caught them to bury a number
of times. But gee, what did that woman say? Five
hundred dollars now at a great barrier?

Speaker 7 (02:07:32):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (02:07:33):
Because it used to be a regular ferry too, which
doesn't go. I don't know if it goes at all now,
but even Calvin, it's Marcus welcome, Firshold.

Speaker 13 (02:07:41):
Two different aeroplanes. I've been on a little float plane
at Lake Taupo, which is just like an ordinary little
I don't know what you call them.

Speaker 3 (02:07:50):
It's like a cystem with floats, isn't it.

Speaker 13 (02:07:53):
Yeah, that's the right idea with floats. Yeah, instead of
having wheels under the framework, it's got float since quite
a dramatic takeoff and actually the screams along the water
some some some till eventually gets under the air and
takes off. But so that was a good flight. Comes
along by the Whitekatta River, you know, from Tapo, turns

(02:08:15):
went back again. So I enjoyed that. But the other plane,
it could be a couple of decades ago, and I'm
just trying to go back on memory, and I'm what
I'm going to tell you, I'm sure is correct.

Speaker 3 (02:08:26):
It was a Russian I'll chick for you, Kilvin.

Speaker 13 (02:08:30):
Yeah, a Russian flying boat. And now this is a
very large aircraft and as you mentioned earlier, on the
front of them, you know, sort of shaped like a
boat which sits in the water part of it. So
it was a Russian flying boat, very very large, and
it landed in what I call the Auckland Harbor. You'll

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have some other name there for it or whatever, And
it was it was very intriguing because we hadn't seen
any flying boats.

Speaker 3 (02:09:00):
Did you fly this or you just saw it?

Speaker 13 (02:09:02):
It was on the TV news?

Speaker 3 (02:09:04):
Oh, okay, you.

Speaker 9 (02:09:05):
Went on it.

Speaker 3 (02:09:06):
No, I think I thought you see that flying on Okay, Yepna,
I'm back with you, yep.

Speaker 13 (02:09:10):
Yeah. So it was quite intriguing at the time in
New Zealand because we hadn't seen any flying boats as
such for a long long time. Anyway, So this Russian
flying boat landed in New Auckland Harbor and I was
thinking along just a few minutes ago, I'm pretty sure
that was the boat which Paul Holmes went out to

(02:09:34):
on his TV program went out to.

Speaker 3 (02:09:37):
I'm having recollections of this too.

Speaker 19 (02:09:40):
Now.

Speaker 13 (02:09:40):
He went out to the to the airplane in the
water and just so.

Speaker 3 (02:09:45):
Did his wander around with his big microphone, didn't he Yeah.

Speaker 13 (02:09:49):
But the intriguing thing was he took his watch, he
took his shoes off and his watch when he finished
the interview on the on the aircraft, took his watch
and shoes off, dived in fully closed instead of swimming
back to the shore.

Speaker 3 (02:10:02):
What a character.

Speaker 13 (02:10:04):
He was a character, And I'm pretty sure that would
have been Calvin.

Speaker 3 (02:10:08):
Did you ever meet home See, No, you would have
liked them, you think so, Oh yeah, oh yeah you
would have. Yeah you would have.

Speaker 13 (02:10:15):
Oh I've only met you the once. Yeah you met
me the one.

Speaker 23 (02:10:22):
Now like me?

Speaker 3 (02:10:23):
Yeah, of course I did. I'll tell you what I
think that was, right, Yeah, I hit it all up there.
I found it actually a brief a four Oh. I
hit the whole website and I've clicked on it and
gone off it.

Speaker 13 (02:10:40):
Yes, it was quite intriguing at the time, being a
Russian aircraft and being a flying boat and then coming down,
landing in the middle of Auckland Harbor in the water.
It was very intriguing to see it all happen.

Speaker 3 (02:10:59):
I had the whole story there, but now I can't
find where I've clicked on it.

Speaker 13 (02:11:03):
Well, when you've finished, when you've ditched me, you'll do
to the end.

Speaker 32 (02:11:12):
Yees.

Speaker 13 (02:11:13):
So I found it quite fascinating. The whole news item
about it, Well, it would have been on Holmes's program.
But as I said, as they finish of.

Speaker 3 (02:11:24):
It, it says the aircraft visited Singapore, Australia and New
Zealand in nineteen ninety two for displays a variety of
air shows. While in New Zealand it landed on the
White to Mata Harbor. You're right if I call it that, yeah, right,
the first large flying boat since the nineteen sixties, the
first water landing for the aircraft outside of Russia. It

(02:11:45):
was a very of a forty albatross.

Speaker 13 (02:11:49):
Yes, that's right.

Speaker 3 (02:11:52):
Did you just watch it on the TV on the
Home Show, did you?

Speaker 9 (02:11:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (02:11:55):
On the Home Show? It was very it was very fascinating,
very intriguing. And I'm sure that was the one where,
you know, as I said before, where he stripped his
foot were off and dived in.

Speaker 3 (02:12:06):
I'm sure I have vague memories of him doing that.

Speaker 9 (02:12:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (02:12:10):
So that the very large, large, large aircraft which used
to come to Auckland from Australia or wherever they were
flying boats.

Speaker 9 (02:12:22):
They came.

Speaker 13 (02:12:22):
They landed in the water and they had wheels on
and come up the concrete runway on the water's edge
up on the land. I don't know. I don't know
what the area is there.

Speaker 3 (02:12:32):
I remember that. I remember that plane being there in ninety.
It looked like it looked like an eighth It looked
like an ebon. It looked like a proper plane.

Speaker 13 (02:12:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, there was a jet. Those flying boats
they just looked like big aircraft.

Speaker 3 (02:12:46):
It was a jet.

Speaker 13 (02:12:47):
Yeah, that's right. I was going to say before that
I thought it was a jet because the whole thing
about us a Russian aircraft, flying boat, jet, aircraft landing
in the water. You know, it had everything.

Speaker 3 (02:13:02):
We must had a better relation with the Russians. Then
I guess they're buying our butter something eh.

Speaker 13 (02:13:07):
Oh yeah. And then and they supplied the engines for
the Skoda. It's right, the trekkers.

Speaker 3 (02:13:15):
Did you ever have a teck it? Did you ever
ever trick at Calvin?

Speaker 5 (02:13:18):
No?

Speaker 13 (02:13:19):
But I helped make some of the parts here in
hamelon the Brisian the seat just sitting on the part
just below that went around there.

Speaker 3 (02:13:30):
Would it be the trust? I don't know thet's trust. Calvin.
Thank you, it's been in delight twenty two to midnight.
Hi Alison, it's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 23 (02:13:40):
Oh hello. I saw with my parents with Freggy lad
to Only Kangy.

Speaker 7 (02:13:47):
What he.

Speaker 23 (02:13:50):
And his saying was shower of spray and we we're away.
And he was a very jolly person. And as we
came into only Kangey, he lent the plane over and
said put the window down and put your hand out

(02:14:11):
in the.

Speaker 26 (02:14:11):
Wave, which we couldn't do.

Speaker 23 (02:14:17):
But also to change us for this other plane that
you've been speaking about, the Russian. It was a Russian albatross,
and our son with a friend, took his father's very

(02:14:38):
expensive camera, unbeknown to us, out in the rubber ducky
to film this albatross man in Auckland Harbor. And yes,
Paul Holmes was on board, but our son and his friend,
the harbor people will last or whoever asked them to

(02:15:02):
move away, So we've.

Speaker 12 (02:15:05):
Got a film of that.

Speaker 3 (02:15:07):
Oh wow, I think that.

Speaker 5 (02:15:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:15:10):
I wish I could remember more about that, although because
nineteen ninety two sounds like a long time away now.
But it was amazing that it happened that that. I
can't believe that leaded there. I kind of remember how
that actually managed to clear the sea runway for it.

Speaker 23 (02:15:24):
Yes, it was amazing, really nice to talk.

Speaker 3 (02:15:29):
Allison, Thanks very much, for that, Binky, This is Marcus welcome.

Speaker 30 (02:15:34):
Oh, yes, good evening. I feel a bit silly now
because I was going to say that I flew with
Freed lead to Annie Tony.

Speaker 3 (02:15:46):
Oh, that's exactly the same way.

Speaker 30 (02:15:47):
Yeah, yeah, exactly the same. When I got on, he
asked me where the bitch was and I told him,
And do you know he went down? I thought we
were drowning. He went when he went down in the water,
and then all of a sudden he went up on

(02:16:09):
the beach right then in front of our betch.

Speaker 23 (02:16:13):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (02:16:15):
Wow.

Speaker 30 (02:16:17):
Yes, it was very, very exciting.

Speaker 3 (02:16:20):
So did they, Binky? Did they often? Because I thought
they landed mainly on the other side of the Did
you often get taken to your right to your doorstep
with him?

Speaker 30 (02:16:28):
Or that was just no, No, it was a special
We used to take the boat, okay, but this time
I had a wee baby. Yes, So I rent on
the plane and it was we were our batch was
right on the beach. Wow, and we went He just

(02:16:50):
went up and stopped the plane right in front of
about about twenty feet away from our betch.

Speaker 3 (02:16:57):
It's amazing. Now, think thinking, and I'm going to ask
you this, have you still got the batch.

Speaker 30 (02:17:04):
No, no, we would have been millionaires.

Speaker 3 (02:17:08):
Would boy, what of you?

Speaker 27 (02:17:10):
Boy?

Speaker 5 (02:17:11):
What of you?

Speaker 3 (02:17:12):
It would It was.

Speaker 30 (02:17:13):
One of the first batches ever to be built on
the beach. And when we got it there were no doors.
There were all curtains across and the whole place. Instead
of wallpaper, it was magaufined pictures taken out of magazines

(02:17:40):
and that was all over the walls.

Speaker 3 (02:17:45):
And was that down the end by the pub or
the end closest to Palm Beach?

Speaker 30 (02:17:51):
No, it was down the upper end from the pub.
We were about the third house from the cliffs. And
no television, no, no telephone. It was absolutely wonderful place

(02:18:13):
to go with the kids on the holidays.

Speaker 3 (02:18:17):
And we're talking the sixties then, is it would be
the nineteen.

Speaker 30 (02:18:19):
Sixties, Yeah, sixties seventies And when I think terrible parenting
that the kids had breakfast, went to the back of
the beach. They were there all day and they had
Lilah's which are very dangerous and I never even watched

(02:18:42):
them that they looked after each other. Yeah, And there
were no there were no proper roads, no wineries. It
was absolutely paradise.

Speaker 3 (02:18:59):
Lovely to talk Bnkie, Thank you so much for coming through.
Really appreciate it. Fourteen to twelve, Margaret, it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 35 (02:19:08):
Hello Marcus. Look, I'm ringing to say to you that
I went on a Sunderland flying boat and I was
only three years old, and I went all on my own.

Speaker 4 (02:19:21):
For Wellington.

Speaker 35 (02:19:24):
I did, I did, and I didn't. I mustn't have
noticed when it took off from Wellington that we were
on the water. But when it landed at Sydney, the
water went all over the windows and I was petrified,
and the air hostess had to pick me up and
carry me virtually to the front of the plane to

(02:19:47):
settle me down. I was so frightened.

Speaker 3 (02:19:50):
Wow, that must be that must almost be your first memory.

Speaker 35 (02:19:55):
Well, it was about nineteen fifty two or fifty three,
and I think I was three years old.

Speaker 23 (02:20:01):
Yeah, so it was.

Speaker 35 (02:20:03):
It was a pretty unusual thing to do in those days.

Speaker 3 (02:20:06):
Is for sure, because the people I've spoken to also
said it was quite It could be quite an uncomfortable
trip because they flew quite low.

Speaker 35 (02:20:15):
Well, I don't remember too much, but I remember it
was a bit like a milk how you sat in
a coffee shop with a table and you sat on
either side of it in a bench seat. It was
probably quite dangerous, I think the way it was it
was set up. And then I flew back again about
two years later on the flying boat, going the other

(02:20:38):
way back to Wellington and again on my own.

Speaker 3 (02:20:42):
Yeah, would you have had a specialist? What if you
had an air hostess to look after you?

Speaker 35 (02:20:48):
You were I was called an accompanied miner and I
just had a I had a big safe depin on
the lapel of my coat was my name and who
was to pick me up?

Speaker 4 (02:21:01):
On a brown Manila envelope?

Speaker 3 (02:21:04):
Yeah, and you would have been well behaved. I can't
believe it. Really, you could send a three year old
across the our country on a FLA's amazing.

Speaker 35 (02:21:14):
Now, well, my mother was having an illegitimate baby in
New Zealand and I was sent to story but when
she came back. When I came back, she actually had
forgotten what day I was coming back, and the air
hostess and the pilot took me back to their flat.

Speaker 26 (02:21:34):
For the night until mom could come down from somewhere.

Speaker 35 (02:21:38):
Else to put me up the next day.

Speaker 26 (02:21:40):
So yeah, it must have been Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:21:43):
I'm going to go because I'm run out of time.
What an extraordinary Margaret, thanks for sharing that.

Speaker 18 (02:21:47):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (02:21:48):
Wow some others Aye Goodness.

Speaker 1 (02:21:51):
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