The clinic at Ericsson (6 March 2026)

Marcus watches the Warriors' first NRL match of 2026, and gauges reaction to the TPU/Curia poll that Luxon felt he need to ring ZB and discuss himself!

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus lush Night's podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'd be.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Big night at ericson seven minutes ago and the Warriors
camped on the rooster's line. No school there. I'll keep
you updated. How are you welcome? Welcome, Welcome, Welcome Friday,
free for all sports Friday to a lot on. So yeah,
fair enough. I'll keep you updated with what's going on.
We've got rugby, we've got rugby league, We've got squ well,
i'm gonna say we've got squash. We had squash Hurdle twelve.

(00:36):
A couple of things I want to talk about tonight
and Friday. Say she's loose like a goose and a
caboose on juice. Who knows where will go with this?
As long as you're not too loose like a caboose anyway, welcome.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Normally you turn the mic on and say something pithy
and observant and thoughtful. Yeah. So today there was a
much vaunted and talked about pole that showed that national
under luxon is below thirty. Poles are funny things for talkback.

(01:19):
People ring up and say I wasn't called, which shows
a remarkable misunderstanding of statistics. They think to get a
true presentation, everyone needs to be talked to. Talkback callers
were also say it's only landlines, or it's only cell phones,
or young people don't use the phone. But so people
always disparage and say the poles aren't accurate. But what

(01:42):
was funny this time is that Luxon said herely trusts
the overseas pole. It was weird a like we I
thought as a privacy is supposed to be wanting to
use the local companies. He said, oh, well, we get
our darted out in London like it was the I paraphrase,

(02:03):
but it was just the the local polling companies. It's
only the over He's one that makes any sense anyway.
I've got no real opinion on what he should do
because it's not up to me. Some of the commentators
have said that he's got the weekend to think about it,
and if he comes back on Monday and says he
wants to remain, then the other people might say something
to him because they might be out of a job

(02:24):
because they'll be on the list and they won't get in.
So that's what happens. After a while. People vote out
of self interest. Some people have spent some time to
day saying who would be his natural success or What
I've known in life is when you see someone and
how they come across on the TV and the media
is often very different from how they come across in
real life. And a lot of people in the media

(02:48):
have relationships with politicians and thinking, oh, he's a nice guy,
he's a great guy to have a drink where they
are jeepers creepers. I wouldn't trust him him a chainsaw,
wouldn't lend him a sleeping bag. I don't know any
of them. I've got no insights. I've got no insights
into any of them at all. I don't know to
stand to straight shirt. I don't have Mitchell's any good.

(03:08):
I'll tell you what he wandered around during the Civil
Defense crisis. Looked like he wanted to be this. I've
got no idea. So nothing I already have to say
about it is of any interest, because I've just read
the columns and listened to the interviews. But I'm kind
of curious if there's something you want to say. You
might have been perched on the radio listen day and

(03:28):
you might want to say, ah, well, he's the best
guy we've ever had, or once we get to know him,
we'll love him. Or one in the hands worth two
in the bush, or the devil you know. But he
want to comment quickly on lux and Yeah, I'll be
curious to what you've got to say, because that's what
people love politics for, because of a chance to have
their opinion and say what they think they need to say.

(03:51):
Is have you got something to say about that? Text
it through or call it through? You might have some
inside knowledge. We're not far away from the elections about
seven or eight months, so maybe met slightly more than
that's like less than that, so there will be people concerned.
I'll tell you what we are in for a busy
year news wise, because it feels like it's going to

(04:12):
be Philly action packed. Will there be a new leader
for National when they come into the election, I don't know.
That's up to Luxon and his caucus and probably Lucksen's
advisor or advisors got a thick skin has at a
height of an elephant cheapest creepers just seems to remarkably.

(04:32):
He might think he's doing a great job. I don't know,
but he certainly seems to be unwavering. You might have
a preference too for the leader. You might know someone.
I don't know any of them, and they're quite happy
not knowing any of them either. Actually, I think it'd
be very kind of I think it would be very
frustrating and slightly not indecent, but slightly to work to

(04:58):
move in those inner circles of politics. I think would
probably be a fairly oh, unsettling world live in, full
of opinion and gossip and half truths and polls. Get
in touch if you've got a comment. Rossett's Marcus, thanks
for calling, Thanks for kicking us off. Good evening.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
Yeah, hi, Marcus. I think everyone should just view it
like who would you put your money in? So, if
you started working at fifteen and you were going to
retire at seventy, who would you trust to invest all
your money in? And your retirement your welfare of your
retirement was going to depend on the choice that you made.
Who would you put your Who would you give your

(05:40):
money to? Someone from national or labor And based on
the record over the last ten years, would just say
that one has been more successful than the other, and
therefore the amount of money that you would have accumulated
by seventy five would have been based on the decision
you made when you were fifteen.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
So who's the great successor of Luxe? And then on
that criteria, Well, it's certainly not Robinson. No I'm talking
about I talked about who's the successor to? And within
the national Caucus.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
Well, I was talking about who are you?

Speaker 3 (06:10):
I'm realizing that, but I'm narrowing it down to the
speculation about who will succeed him?

Speaker 5 (06:15):
Well, I don't, I don't think.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
I don't think Robertson and I think Robertson and are
doing are gone?

Speaker 5 (06:21):
Now yep, I realized that, but the labor labor finance.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
But what I'm talking to you about is about whether
it's Bishop or Brown, or Stanford or Mitchell or under York.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
Does there have to be a successor?

Speaker 6 (06:36):
No?

Speaker 5 (06:37):
No, So why why? What's the issue?

Speaker 7 (06:39):
I mean?

Speaker 5 (06:39):
Has he resigned? As anyone ever said that he's going
to resign, it's just to all talk and thinking.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Ross. News flash, this is talk back. This is about talk.
That's what we do. We talk, We talk about stuff,
we think. Okay, that's if he's not going to be around,
if he decides it's not for him, if he wants
to go back to working for the pharmaceutical company or whatever,
which way would you go? But yeah, you've got to

(07:06):
You've got to kick chilled out about it. That's the
thing that's important thing on a Friday talking politics, you
got to be chilled out about it. You can't just
use it to fight your old the news from five
years ago. And there's more to politics than just money.
It's also the happiness of the society you live in, Victoria.
This is Marcus. Welcome and good evening. By the way,

(07:29):
the worry. By the way. The warriors have scored their
four nil up their camp down there, and that's exciting. Hi, Victoria, Hi, I.

Speaker 8 (07:36):
Just want to talk about the politics.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Great, you've rung the rightshous show, Marcus. See it's me here, Marcus.

Speaker 9 (07:46):
Here.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
You've done. You spoke to Dan. Dan out to the phone.
Dan said, Hi, Victoria. Put you on hold, He said,
Marcus will be the next voice. You hear, I am
the next voice.

Speaker 8 (07:55):
Okay. I don't really far as at all. I don't
understand it.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Do you vote.

Speaker 10 (08:04):
Sometimes to worry?

Speaker 11 (08:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (08:08):
That vote. I can't help my I can't say anythink
a night.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
You can't say anything now.

Speaker 8 (08:17):
No, I can't.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
I can't say, and I'll put the headphones on.

Speaker 8 (08:25):
They want to help, Marcus.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
You're saying, if you can't vote, you can't complain, right,
that's what I think. That's a cop out.

Speaker 12 (08:34):
Yeah, okay, copy, what do you want to complain?

Speaker 13 (08:40):
I explain the maut brilliant Victor.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
I'll let you go go and bigger bye bye, Oh
bring back Ross once luxing as Luxon's rolled exactly cheap
as creepers, Winston seems the only one who can see
what's to come for poor Luxon. Winston will not hitch
his wagon to the net send ex show again with

(09:05):
the latest chapter, Luxon is beneath him and seem just
a waste of time. Luxon has proven to consider himself
above the that so it just seems a bit selfish.
Marcu's just what appeled to know? Over an airporints scam
going around saying airpoints expiring with a web address to
click on airport's made aware always a different scam. I

(09:25):
was thinking about that recalled sausage on the news. What
was it a pepperoni or some recalled sausage and you
could destroy it or take it back. I wouldn't even
know where you go you're taking back your sausage. Where
would you go to a supermarket? Would you go around
and go to the tower and say, oh, this is
the record? Wouldn't be worth it? Winn't What if people
do take back record products? Got they're going to score again?

(09:46):
Are they're the warriors? Punch it? Dallan, punch it? Yes,
six nil haven't scored that time. If you've got anything
interesting to say, and you know, you've probably listened to people,
and there's been a lot written today about politics. All
the columnists have had a guy, whether it be Matthew
Hoop or Jenna Lynch, they've all got out there and
had their say, and your take on what they've said,

(10:07):
or your taker what you think will happen. I don't
know what will happen. I don't really care. I'm not invested,
but things could happen. He could come back Monday and say, yeah,
I don't reckon it's going to work out with me.
Because should he go to the election in November whatever
and not get voted and he's not going to hang
around the leader of the opposition.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Is he?

Speaker 3 (10:28):
I don't think that's key to his list By the way,
the Chiefs forty one nineteen of them or one a
pacifica at another two points that Damien McKinny just with
a successful kick conversion. Make that forty three to nineteen.
Big scores, big scores. And now it looks like the
roosters have gone coast to coast. Last thing, I looked

(10:50):
at their worries about to score, and suddenly now I'm
seeing them touching down. Oh boy, Marcus, we are keen
listens to your station. Could the host Marcus be put right?
I'm pronouncing our preme minister's surname. There is no one
thing I'd ever pronounced Luxon's wrong. Nless, I'm reading people's texts.
Maybe you've misheard, or maybe I have done it wrong,

(11:11):
but I certainly wouldn't have done that deliberately. Maybe as
reading it reading a I think we're all particularly prepared. Well,
that's funny newsaying people have always taken great delight and
mispronouncing politians name. It would be Keys or your Center
or Luxton. Hold your horses with you, So nineteen past eight,

(11:33):
Good evening, Jackie, it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 14 (11:36):
Oh hi, masters. Just a couple of things, you know,
how you say first impressions count. When he became prime minister,
there was two things that happened. First of all, he
said he did his shopping for sixty dollars a week.
And then the second thing was about him applying for
accommodations and then he had to reimburse it. And I

(12:00):
thought he never should have applied because he has a
lot of money and houses and everything.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah he did. I wasn't saying. I wasn't saying first.
And I think what I was implying is that a
lot of the the comments when they haven't been doing
so well in the polling was that people just got
needed to get to know him, and once people got
to know him, they would like him more. But that

(12:25):
doesn't seem to have worked that way, does it doesn't.
New Zealanders haven't fallen in love with Chris Luxon. They
seem as though they he's not like a beloved prime minister.

Speaker 14 (12:37):
Yeah, it's not like John Ke or people did seem like.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
People did seem to love John Key because he was
sort of someone that could mix it up. He could
he could talk to anyone. He seemed, you know, like
he didn't take himself too seriously and didn't overrate his ability.
Maybe that might be what one of Luckson's problems he
seems to be. He seems to think he's doing for
every well at the job, when the numbers probably would
indicate he's not crash hot at it.

Speaker 14 (13:03):
Yeah, when I heard him being interfered by Heather, seems
really positive and wasn't really listening to what she was saying.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Like he hadn't read the room. No, is this someone
that is there someone that resonates with you? Of the
other people that they think might succeed him, is there
anyone that you like them? I mean, I know it's
hard to tell because you can't really.

Speaker 15 (13:24):
Well.

Speaker 14 (13:24):
I'm I feel I like Matt Mitchell and I like
the education person.

Speaker 16 (13:30):
But as.

Speaker 14 (13:32):
Other people pointed out that we don't know, they're good
at their jobs, but they don't know about the other
side of politics. If they can, you know, mix it
up and do what all crime insin.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Needs to do, Yes, I'm sure it's a big step
up from doing that. We've been across everything and doing that.
And also you've got a leader. You've got to be
a leader to a team of people. It's almost like
the all black coach with Dave Reader. You've got to
bring them all together and work out their different attributes. Yeah,
that's right. Nice to talk to you, Jackie. Thank you
six all in the rugby League, Caught of the match
has gone. Looks like tenor boys having at the kicker

(14:09):
kick for touch, kick for goal, kick for Oh how
did they fluff that? He's got the yips again like
he had last year. I thought Tanner Boyd was in
the reserves. But there we go back. Catch your people
if you want to be a part of the show.
Eight hundred and eighty to twenty six past eight eight
hundred eighty ten eighty and nine. Text you're Roberts Marcus. Welcome,

(14:31):
good evening.

Speaker 13 (14:32):
Here, you get a mate. What's happening, rob Oh yeah, no,
not much, not much at the map.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
What's your comment on today that's happened in politics?

Speaker 13 (14:43):
Well for nicely, the last few prime ministers, state houses.
You just can investment.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Your phone line's not great. I've just heard you said
you've said the last four pro ministers or something. Houses.

Speaker 7 (15:05):
Oh think I I'll just going.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
When you get on the right. You got to have
your phone working otherwise it's hard to hear you're gone altogether.

Speaker 16 (15:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
So what were you saying? Something about houses?

Speaker 13 (15:18):
Yeah? The Yeah, all of the prime ministers that we've
had in recent times, they've all got multiple houses.

Speaker 7 (15:28):
Or have I don't know a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
I don't know if Hipkins and Dorn did.

Speaker 13 (15:35):
Yeah. I just googled it before I ring descenders.

Speaker 16 (15:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (15:41):
Yeah, so it's not just lux As. What my point
is is that it's not just our current prime minister.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
I think it was more about him claiming for some
for some claim that when he went to for his
accommodation and Wellington when there was a government house as
well or something, that's what the yeah.

Speaker 7 (16:06):
Is that the one?

Speaker 13 (16:07):
Is it the one that needed renovating.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Something like that, there was something there that was at
that didn't work well for him.

Speaker 13 (16:13):
Yeah, anyway, that was that was all I was. You know,
I was just saying, you.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Know, are you surprised or interested by what's happened today?

Speaker 4 (16:22):
No?

Speaker 17 (16:22):
No, I.

Speaker 13 (16:24):
Just really hope that and this is just my opinion.
I really hope that labor Greens and the Mary Patty
don't get into power.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Or so do you think that that's more likely to
happen if Luxon's the leader or someone else is the leader.

Speaker 13 (16:42):
No, I reckon, but he's pretty onto it.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
So you'd want Bishop, you want Bishop to be running
your show?

Speaker 18 (16:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (16:51):
Or Stanford?

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, Stanford?

Speaker 7 (16:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Where will you move to?

Speaker 13 (17:00):
I don't know. I just wouldn't want to live in
a country.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Where but where would you? But where would you go?

Speaker 19 (17:06):
Well?

Speaker 13 (17:07):
I actually can't actually leave because I'm sort of.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
So it's just so it's just talk. Yeah, just be
honest people. I mean, cheapest screepers gone to the bunk?
Is something's decision pending. I don't know what that is.
I'm too busy with the talk. Oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty and nine two nine two to text. If
you want to come through looking forward to what you
want to say? Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty and

(17:32):
nine two nine two to text. I don't think there's
been another score. Keep you up to date with that, Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty. It's gonna be interesting here
for politics. A people, all sort of people are much
more tribal with it now, Aren't they any chance to
get and say their bit? At least there's one thing
about today we know the Auckland boat shows on. I
had no idea. But he's supposed to be at the

(17:54):
boat show. He's not going. It's gone forever the boat show.
If you want to be involved with a discussion, just
in a general way, but talk about what's happening rather
than what's happened five or six years ago. But that's
sort of a relitigation is a bit dull. By the
way too. I can tell you State Higway one block
due to a cush in Dome Valley. The cush was

(18:15):
repported for emergency was around six forty five pm. The
serious question have been advised, modors advised, vehicles have been
turned around and travel should be a laid or turn
of routes taken. That's Dome Valley, north of Ulkland. Apparently,
acording to the returns just Into only had one property listed.
I can also tell you through the situation with Crystal
Lax he claimed thirteen thousand dollars and then paid that
back because he claimed that for when he was staying

(18:38):
in his own house when he was in Wellington, rather
than being at the Government House or whatever it's called,
where he could have been. Sam Marcus, good.

Speaker 20 (18:47):
Evening, Good evening, Marcus, How are we good?

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Thank you? Sam?

Speaker 20 (18:53):
Oh, I don't know. I don't know if they're good
thing or not. To be honest, I think they can
sway the population one way.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Or ourself self fulfilling.

Speaker 20 (19:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean I think
there's a lot to be secret poles to be there. Yeah,
I don't I'm not a big fan of them.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Would you like, Sam, would you like them to be
made illegal?

Speaker 20 (19:19):
I don't know if i'd go that far. I just
think that I just think that they can manipulate the
majority of the population to lean one way or another,
where people need to make up their own mind. I
don't even know where these poles come from, because lots
of them are all over the show and they.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Yeah, I'll jump down, I'll jump I will challenge you
on that, because if you average the poles, they tend
to be quite accurate. And these people charge for the service,
so no one's going to pay for something that's of
no value. So the fact that people are prepared to
pay to receive the poles means they are some of

(19:58):
some value, which means that they are accurate. That's that's
always my justification.

Speaker 20 (20:03):
Yep, vehicle. Have you ever been asked Marcus to to
have you ever been part of the pole?

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah, I have, and I also to be there. I
also work. I also work in radio, and in radio
as far as our audience survey things go, they pull
people on that and we live and die by our ratings.
And the ratings is done by quite small sample sizes,

(20:34):
but the whole of the radio industry, whether you keep
your job or not, is determined by the ratings. And
it's the same thing. It's about calling people or going
around to people's houses and asking them about their habits. So, yeah,
we need we trust that stuff because it's a big
part of our industry. Yes, do you know do you
not know anyone that do not know anyone that's been polled?

Speaker 20 (20:55):
No, I don't. I was talking to my colleague today
and I was and I was trying to ask the
oldest man in the room. Obviously he's been around the lockers,
so I said, he has ever been pulled anyone else?
And no one had, And I thought, well, where do
they actually? It was just a genuine question whether they
actually get these people to do to you know, to
do these poles.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
They get them random they get them randomly, and they're
statistically accurate. You know, the thing about statistics is you
don't need a huge number of people to get a
net to get to get an accurate representation. It's called sampling.
They can do it with about a thousand. They can
do it with about a thousand people, because there's five
million people in the country and require five thousand poles

(21:34):
on an average for you to get poled yourself. So
you know it's you're not going to get poled every
two months.

Speaker 9 (21:39):
Yes, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 20 (21:40):
And do you think due to as a theater assume
that they give thousand people from all spectrums of you know, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
It's the there's the business there, it's statistically rigorous. There's
there's people with doctorates and statistics that would that would
be all across this about the randomness of sampling to
make to sure to make sure they've got the right
spread of demographics. That's why quite often they'll ring you,
they'll ask you are you between twenty and forty because

(22:08):
they'll be looking for someone that to fulfill those groups.
So maybe if you maybe if you did get pold,
you'd have more faith in it.

Speaker 20 (22:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would, I would definitely, yeah, yeah, absolutely,
do you.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
I just feel if I did if I did poll you, now,
who would you vote for tomorrow? If there was an
election held Acting?

Speaker 20 (22:31):
National? One of the two?

Speaker 9 (22:32):
Absolutely, So you.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Don't know, you don't know who you'd vote for.

Speaker 20 (22:36):
Uh well, I voted ACT in the last two elections,
and the one before that was National.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
So I'm telling you that's what you'd be asked to
be asked if election was held tomorrow, who would you
vote for? You couldn't say ACT or National. We'd want
someone to be slightly more decisive.

Speaker 20 (22:52):
Oh, I would say Act.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Okay, and just out of just out of interest. Would
you be happier if Nashville went to the election under Luxen?
Or would you want someone else? And if so, who
would you want?

Speaker 16 (23:05):
No?

Speaker 20 (23:05):
I think I think it's too I think we're too
close to the election to change it from from Chris
to be fair Luxon. In an ideal world, if there
was more time, then I would definitely think that it would.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Be there was more There was more time with the
last woeful pole, which was their chance to act.

Speaker 20 (23:23):
I thought, yeah, yeah, true, yes, yeah, I mean I've
got nothing, do you know?

Speaker 21 (23:27):
I mean I do.

Speaker 20 (23:28):
I do trust Christopher Luxon to be fair. I just
feel that he's got some strong team members with him
that probably presents a little bit better to the majority
of the population. But I can see through that and
I trusted him.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Do you think the countries? Do you think the country
is going in the right direction?

Speaker 20 (23:42):
I do, yep, I do.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (23:44):
I think he's doing.

Speaker 20 (23:45):
I think they're doing as best as they can with
what they've got.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
To be brilliant, che I regue it's that long before
I swear in this job. I reckon that's the way
it's going. Ten six the Warriors over the Roosters, fifty seven,
ninety the Chiefs over Mowana Pacifica. To be fair, people
have done that, to be fair. Oh frustrates me there anyway.

(24:14):
Twenty three away from nine Marcus the biggest handicap handicapped
for lux and is acting Seymour and Van Valden for
the eight percent party from the Trity Principles Bill, of
the Pequity Bill, both three and popular bills, which likes
and cowered down to. If he made a stand against
him and put out Seymour, he would have gained much
more credibility. Ken When MP Jackie Blue resigned and moved

(24:36):
to the Opportunity's Party gave me an opportunity to enough
of a jot to look into their policies. I'm a
floating votus. I'm open minded. I don't know what the
Opportunity Party did in the poll today. I didn't see that.
By the way, the Warriors are going to head sixteen
to six. Long May that last?

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Long?

Speaker 3 (24:53):
May that last? Someone says lux and more like lux off.
It's a karate kid and ball reference. Beautiful, Tony Marcus, welcome,
you got years on Tony any receiving loud and clear.

Speaker 22 (25:08):
Sweet airs. Hey, I was just wondering about all Israel
saga in Iran and all garmas that's going.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Down, right, sorry, Israel Iran.

Speaker 10 (25:18):
And all the what the drama that's going down drama?

Speaker 6 (25:22):
You copy that, yep, So we'll speak about her.

Speaker 22 (25:26):
But yeah, I was wondering. Have you ever heard about
the Greater Israel Project?

Speaker 2 (25:30):
No?

Speaker 3 (25:30):
But yeah, I don't think it's for me, Tony. I'm sorry,
but it just sounds like it's going to be a
sod like that's some sort of conspiracy things. I think
we'll just bypass that. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and
I apologize. That's what it sounds like if you want
took a run and you're fine, get in touch eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty Marcus Two Things Luxe and
is entitled Hess Write and Playboy. In the sixties, an

(25:51):
article called the Death of politics. He was too worry.
I think policies no longer work for the people. Their
corporate now ensuring the nation state survives even with a
broken economic system. A lot of people are quite angry
that we are talking about this. Nothing has happened. Did
you hear his interview late this after and he made
it clear exclamation mark big news. Well, he had no

(26:13):
other option. And what's very clear is that they won't
push him. He needs to go. But if he doesn't
make that decision on Monday, if he decides not to go,
then people might be unhappy and it might change. They
went through three leaders and it was quite undignified. They
want to make this one more seamless. Luxon came on

(26:35):
without much experience and led them to victory. And the
thinking is that, you know, he needs to make his
own decision if he's going to leave, but he decides
not to make that decision, then some of the conversations.
This is what all the political commentators say some of
those discussions on Monday might be slightly more firm or
heated because people might lose their seats. For you're a

(26:59):
politician and it's looking like you mightn't get back in,
then that wouldn't be a nice feeling. But what is
a nice feeling is the world is sixteen six over,
very very good on paper, Sydney, Rooster's side. We've got
Cherry Evans back across, they got to disco, They've got
some great players. Was this the review for a try?
Or I don't so? Head high? Is it keeping this

(27:20):
challenge but not a try? Involved? Okay, where's mcl where's
my clock? Where is the clock? By the way? Seventeen
to nine, Get in touch, oh eight hundred and eighty
tennty and nineteen nine two text Marcus till twelve, looking
forward to what you've got to say? Anything goes hit

(27:42):
on midnight at Jim Snedden along at twelve to take
you through keep your data with all the sports. Sixteen
six Warriors over Sydney, Oh eight hundred and eighty Tennity
Lewis Marcus good evening, Oh.

Speaker 23 (27:54):
Good evening, Marcus.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Oh yeah, well sort of slightly still slightly scared that
they're going to come around and beat them by the end.
But anyway, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna look too much.
I'm scared I'm going to jinx it. But anyway, yes,
let's I think it is good.

Speaker 14 (28:10):
Okay, Marcus.

Speaker 23 (28:12):
I've got no real affinity to either Labor or National,
but I think anybody that would want another Labor Green
Mary Party government needs the head read.

Speaker 7 (28:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
I think the discussion tonight was more about the poll
in what National would do. I think it's interesting people
always want to taken to the election seven months away,
so I think the discussion was more about that about Yeah,
it's a funny thing to say that you know one
way or the other. But that's strong. Someone texts Maori

(28:50):
have never been in government with Labor. Ever, right wing
voters are increasingly delusional. I think the PM would be
going anyway, along with all his entitlements. Willis will be gone.
Stanford the new leader with Bishop number two. I think
probably the talk was Mitchell and Stanford, but there we go.
I think Bishop's gone to the cricket. Really hope they

(29:12):
don't get in history. Will see Luxeon remembers the list
Trust of the South Pacific that is barely remembered it all.
I was actually looking at the British Prime Minister's the
last six to day list, one of those things. The problem.
I'd completely forgotten about Rishi Sunac, Remember him that destroyed
their edidask trainers that he wore the Gazelles and everyone thought, wow,
they're uncle. He sort of wore a suit in Gazelle's.

(29:34):
I remember, I've forgotten completely about Rishi Sunac. He was
there for a while. I think he was there for
two years, just disappeared. I Reckon Goldsmith over lux and
he sings a good bloke humorless. So National's own pole
finally gets it right, mister entitled and mates our toast
worst government ever. But the real priceless luxem thing, which

(29:57):
is picked Luxon. He said, oh no, he doesn't trust
the pole. They do their polling in England twenty two six.
The Warriors over the city and it's a good rooster's side.
It's a really good rooster's side. And it's the same
warrior's side. It's no, it's it's not like it's a

(30:17):
very very similar looking side. They haven't brought many in you.
I think this one guy that's come across from England,
big unit from Halifax, or one of those tough gunn
of northern towns.

Speaker 24 (30:28):
Oh now, anyway, getting touch on talk on air O
eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine to nine two
de text and just.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Looking for a fairly level headed some three level headed
comments if you've got them. But people from a lot
of the texts seem to be really really angry at
the pole results. There's a lot of texts from national
supporters that are furious that their parties grasp on power

(31:03):
is tenuous. I've never seen such fury. Yeah, a lot
of us quite pointed, yes, really pointed, Like the Panic
has said in I'm sensing panic ZB panic panicins Hey.
Oh by the way, but to keep you updated with
news too, had I with all that's going on beyond sport.

(31:27):
Petrol has gone to four dollars seventy six in parts
of Australia year and Israel has launched twenty six waves
of strikes on bea route overnight that's happened yep. And
there's been a World Camel Beauty pageant and twenty of
the entries were disqualified for plastic surgery. Wow. And there

(31:52):
is a serious crash State Highway One north of Dome Valley.
There's diversions and the serious question has been advised, which
means A it'll take them a while to get there,
and b must be a very serious accident. Hello, Malcolm,
this is Marcus Good Evening.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
Hello Marcus, how are you very good?

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Thank you, Malcolm Good.

Speaker 6 (32:12):
I'm just stringing up about Christopher Luxem. I think he's
quite an intelligent man, but unfortunately he doesn't seem to
cross come across in the media that will, and unfortunately
seems to be sort of shy and instead of standing
up to the left wing sort of media, he sort

(32:34):
of bears down to them. So he should just tell
them to get is it?

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Is it Hosking and Heather as the left wing media?

Speaker 6 (32:44):
No, no, no, absolutely not no. No, I'm talking about
the other other ones.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Lunch.

Speaker 6 (32:50):
I don't know who she is, but I'm talking about
the National Radio whatever they call themselves. But the other
thing a lot to say is.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
Are you talking about Karen Dan and ingodhap Kiss.

Speaker 6 (33:03):
Yeah. I think they're left Lena's and that government.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
How would how would you? How would you know? They left.

Speaker 6 (33:08):
Lena's just seems to be the way they come across
to me. I may be wrong, but I think that's
where they come across to me.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Near the other thing, I wouldn't I wouldn't know which
I wouldn't. I wouldn't have any inkling which way they
would go.

Speaker 6 (33:23):
Okay, right now, Matt Mitchell, the wordy sunds quite good
in that sort of thing. He's got no appeal. What's
over to the Kiwi.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
I thought people liked him because he's sort of tough
on law and order. He's done very well, he's.

Speaker 6 (33:36):
Been comes across is slightly thick, and the other one.
I think the education lady sees terrific, but a woman
don't like it because women don't like women that are
really smart. So so that's sort of rules here. But

(33:58):
I don't see anybody Chriss Bishop.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Brown, I mean Brown.

Speaker 6 (34:06):
I like simm and Brown. I think he's really good
Chris Bishop.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
I like him too.

Speaker 6 (34:10):
That generally people don't like him because he comes across
his smart smart and yet and he is smart, and.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Men not like smart men, or mean like smart men
like women don't like smart.

Speaker 6 (34:21):
Well, I think I think people don't like Chris Bishop,
because he comes across not quite right. So what we
need is some sort of what about Pink?

Speaker 3 (34:31):
What about Chris Pink?

Speaker 6 (34:33):
Yeah, I don't know much bet him, but no, I
don't think that. I don't think so that. There's the
guy from Rangotata. Bring him along, the guy from Rangotata.
He's got a lot of potential. Bring some of these
young ones through like they did. Was obvious that they
were going nowhere and they had the brain waves of
bringing And.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Who's the guy from Rngatata.

Speaker 6 (34:58):
I can't think of his name, but he's very very smart,
very very smart men. And I think he you warned
up is the leader of the National FADA one day?

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Has either guy did the Barnes Meaga? Is it Meaga
or Mary? He did the barnstorming speeches first speech, didn't he?
That's what got on the credit.

Speaker 25 (35:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (35:23):
And other than that though he's also smart. It was
a great speech. It was great speech. But he's a
smart cookie.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
How would you know he's smart?

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Cool?

Speaker 6 (35:32):
A con from down there?

Speaker 3 (35:33):
I will oh cool? Okay, where are you from?

Speaker 6 (35:36):
You from well down south?

Speaker 16 (35:38):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (35:38):
But living and Willington the last sixty years.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
You can't do that well have you been sixty Yes,
since you've been there. But anyway, go the Warriors, Yeah,
welcome back, seven past nine. Reimpress of halftime performance and
Erickson was savage. Yeah, it seemed extraordinary performance by him.
So yeah, very much the night to be with both
him performing and the Warriors. I wouldn't say they're in command,

(36:07):
but they're very much in the lead at the stage. No,
not that I can hear. It's not on in here.
The number is eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and
nine two nine two text. We are talking about the
day in politics, and there was a day talking about

(36:30):
the pole that was going to come out in the morning,
hadn't really come up until about mid day, and all
it showed us that the National Party is well, the
National Government is low in the poll and I don't
know what the situation they face is. I mean, I
know a lot of people texts it's how we don't
want the same lot again. But I think what the
poll today indicated that it would be hard for National

(36:57):
to find a path back to government. I guess because
polls show trends and the trend is downwards. So it
was very much the question about what you think should happen.
What you think will happen not in November, what you
think needs to happen between now and then. And if
they are going to go for a leadership change, who
do you think would be the best person and oppone

(37:18):
needs to be someone that the country can feel that
they can trust and get to know within five or
six months. It also needs to be someone that wants
to do it. The word you'll hear a lot about
would be poisoned chalice, because yeah, I don't know if
people would want to do it, because it's a chance

(37:41):
you get to have the be the prime minister, and
then you could be in opposition, and what we know
in this country, in opposition, it's could be three, six
or nine years before you back in. Anyway, if you
got some I realize it's perhaps I don't want to
get people wound up on a Friday night, but people
sound free, free, wound up. I wasn't the one that
did the poll or broadcast the poll or interviewed luxon.
I'm just asking what you think will happen, what you

(38:02):
want to have happened, And it's just crystal ball stuff.
Talk about something, it's a talk, a talk, So so yeah,
if you've got something to comment. The only one thing
I would say is I think you can't say that
because you have never been polled. The poles aren't accurate.

(38:23):
I think we've got beyond that. I think that statistics
one oh one. But that's fine. I think that's a
bit of denial, Marcus. They should give that chap Todd
Muller a cracket leader. Is he still there? Oh? Wow,
here we go. Here's a great story. Well, it's an
interesting story. An exciting night for dinner, caught the Hobson
bill faery. Exciting night for it caught the Hobson full

(38:46):
ferry into downtown Auckland. On our way home, we're about
ten meters under the harbor bridge. Our captain spotted a
person in the water. All credit to our captain, and
the crew of the prison was brought on board and
we turned around with a very quick ferry ride back
to Auckland, just waiting for the ambulance. What a night. Wow,
someone takes Maybe the Tayers Union lost the job to

(39:07):
a more accurate English company. Bish or Stanford are good options.
Shame Erica has a lower public profile. Marcus, you are
a stirer and will have egg on your facecome election, Helen,
I don't know what I've stirred, so I'll push back
on that. I've got no idea what you're saying. I'm

(39:28):
just asking people what they where's the steerring. I haven't
done the poll, the polls, what everyone's talked about all day.
I'm just saying, what is your reaction to it? What
do you think should happen? That is not stirring, that's
just responsible talk Bachism, saying why do you think this is?
Why are they low whise? Lux are not resonating for people?

(39:50):
Why do people think the country's going in the wrong direction?
What do you think will happen? Doesn't worry me in
the slightest, but that's the question. And as I say,
I've got no vested interest in who becomes lead of
the National Party. I could not care less if it's
or Bishop or Stanford or Goldsmith or Brown or Pugh.

(40:14):
I'm just curious to know who you think would be good,
what your opinion is. I'm just asking you for your opinion.
Every other option for Luxon has their own serious drawbacks,
and none cansole the cost of living that will now
go through the roof yes, I think things aren't going
to go better with the war and the price of
fuel going up. It means fuel to be more expensive,

(40:35):
it means groceries will be more expensive. It means it
will be inflation. And that's what people vote. They vote
on the wallet. There is no good replacement for lux
and waste of discussion. The party is sticking with him,
swapping Lux and changes the messenger with the same message
he said in first will with the Kingmaker again. The

(40:57):
Taxpayers Union used to get on well with the Nats
of late, not so much and surprised to see such
a result. Stanford Filder Mitcheller's deputy need to get totally
rid of Luxe and Nicholer. Either get rid of the
Luxe and Nicholas show or New Zealand First and Seymour
will hoover their vote. Marcus David Seymour and Ericus Stanford

(41:18):
have the most dislike towards Moldy and their history in
this country. It's really sad to see this outlook these
two have. Wow. Oh eight hundred and eighty James Meager,
he's a good cat. I live in Tibardou, but no
way will I vote National Marcus cheers car. That's what
people are saying in The Warriors twenty two to six.
The dreams are true. At Ericson, I would call it

(41:40):
go media. I've got no idea what go media are
with an ericson phone, but yeah, I'll tell you what.
Just because of the poll people are I've never seen
text doores so furious gives me no joy. I don't
want to ruin people's Friday Night. Who just scored? So
he comes a comeback looks like Cherry Evans is scored.

(42:02):
I thought it was a one club man turncoat twenty
two ten. Here they come, Bruce, it's Marcus for the evening.

Speaker 9 (42:08):
Welcome, younday, Marcus, how are you?

Speaker 21 (42:12):
I mean, I think it's interesting. I'm not particularly political,
but I think Luxton.

Speaker 9 (42:18):
Trying to.

Speaker 21 (42:20):
Trying to make it about policies and all that in
terms of who the Prime Minister is and how they're
going to sway the election is not how it works.
You look at you, Cinda, you look at Trump. They
both have very similar characteristics that brought them into how
they speak and bullet for points that aren't necessarily true,

(42:41):
but they give people, you know, statements of fact, just
Sinda always said and let me be clear, and would
say something which had no factual content behind it, and
Trump does a bit of the same.

Speaker 7 (42:53):
Really.

Speaker 21 (42:54):
The other trouble with lux that is he doesn't appear
to have much insight. You know, he doesn't have insight
when he's saying things that you know he's aren't going
to gain him any brownie points, and he doesn't seem
very worldly wise. Those are kind of that's how he

(43:14):
comes across. It's how he came across this afternoon. He
just doesn't have any He didn't read the room, didn't
have much insight and didn't and you know, to say,
I think he said that their data was analyzed in England.

Speaker 26 (43:28):
I don't think he said.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
You're right, he did he did, so I think it.

Speaker 21 (43:33):
Was slightly different to saying that data was collected by
someone and I think that's where they got their analysis done.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
But I guess that's the classic blaming the polling, isn't it.
When it's not good news, you say, oh, well, it's
the polling that's wrong, which.

Speaker 21 (43:51):
It's not reading the room either. That's the last thing
New Zealanders want to hear that somehow someone in England,
I mean, it's it's re arranging the dictures on the dietana,
isn't it.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
It's not loyal to the New Zealand companies when he's
always got the silver food was supposed to be thinking
of New Zealand. Yeah, look it didn't. Once again it
hasn't he said something and it hasn't come across.

Speaker 21 (44:10):
Well, would have been better, I'll say. I spoke to
my Maide in the partment and he told me not
to worry about it. Way better than his insight. And
as I say, it doesn't seem very worldly wise about stuff.

Speaker 27 (44:25):
Is you know?

Speaker 21 (44:28):
The politic isn't about telling the truth. It's telling people
what they want to hear.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Have you got any thoughts if they do change, who
you'd like to see run the show?

Speaker 21 (44:37):
Well, as I say, I'm not strongly political, but if
you need some money, as I say, can give clear statements.
Whether they're truly sexual or not, they're just people.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Hope nic to talk. Bruce nice text had the first
Bluff oice today re tasty but tiny. I'm hearing a
lot of that. I'll tell you what. I've been away
from bluff for a while, but boy, I bought If
people want to talk about oysters. I hate to brag
about my own town, but I've never known a town.
I've never known a town with such a strong brand. Nay,
everyone knows bluff and the oysters even romance. Heading on

(45:12):
down Tony tour guide there's a fight. No Kawasi's involved there,
but a feeling savage got them raked marcause I think
National should subject Chris Luxon for his wife. She seems delightful,
smart and with it. Kevin, you'll be good, I reckon.

Speaker 8 (45:31):
Oh, here you go.

Speaker 9 (45:32):
That is beautiful down here in the South Island.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Where are you Kevin Wakefield?

Speaker 9 (45:37):
Just outside Nelson? Wow, Wakefield District?

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Where's that?

Speaker 9 (45:43):
Fourteen kilometers on the way to Murchison of Nelson Wakefield?
That's bright water?

Speaker 23 (45:51):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Where's that time? Where is it relation to the Spooner's Tunnel?

Speaker 9 (45:55):
Not very far away, very on the same road highway.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Yeah, we walked through. We walked through that this summer.
That was quite. We had no torches. The kids were terrible.
The kids were terrified.

Speaker 9 (46:06):
What like is it like just a tunnel?

Speaker 3 (46:08):
It's really it's really good and it's one of those tunnels.
If you do it without a torch, it goes up
and it goes down, so you are walking into darkness.
It's fantastic.

Speaker 9 (46:19):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Well you should do it. I was blown away. But
I think it's the longest tunnel you can walk through
the country.

Speaker 9 (46:28):
What are they what's the tunnel for?

Speaker 27 (46:31):
What's well?

Speaker 3 (46:32):
Once upon a time the train went from Nelson to
Merchis and I forget where it stopped. And they pulled
it up, and that was a tunnel that was always
covered up. And they've turned it into a rail trail
and there are a lot of pigeons on e bikes
going through it. People seem to love it.

Speaker 9 (46:46):
Oh tort No.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
I thought it was more exciting without it. Yeah, otherwise
fair because you just you just got to take small
steps and then finally see a tiny glimmer of light.

Speaker 9 (46:59):
How wide.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
It's just a single trek, it's not double track. And
there are some there are some respite some recesses. One
are those things I always forget what they're called. What's
a little nook that you can hide? And what's that
called a refuge? There's a refugees a risk of a wristop?
Oh yeah, okay, I don't think it's a risktop anyway, yeah,
which is.

Speaker 9 (47:18):
We've got a coffee machine here at the restaurant.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
About politics that's tunnels out of the way, which I
prefer talking about.

Speaker 9 (47:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Just I don't know that the thing
it was a museumom haven't got many political parties that
are superior. We've only got Natural Labor, And I'm not
a big fan of him, like the days of just
first power of Post. I don't know. I think the
political spectrum means it's archaic and I think it's democratic,

(47:53):
like Australia's the same.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
Hang on, we're in a democracy, right, Yeah, How could
you say it's archaic when we look at what's gone
on with the theocracy and a run we look like
it's gone on in America with the with Trump.

Speaker 6 (48:08):
And the.

Speaker 9 (48:11):
Well I wasn't meaning that. I'm just thinking about, you know,
you've got National Labor and all the other parties and
their head debates and all.

Speaker 27 (48:17):
That sort of stuff.

Speaker 9 (48:18):
Well, what what would happen if say National say you
voted Nashville, they got it in the opposition head to
go and get real jobs during the day. Would that
work or not? Because we're paying them so much for
I don't know, it's just I suppose it's just the
way it is.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Well, it's a pretty some, pretty deep. There's theosophical stuff.
I think we just might get out of that one
twenty one past nine, twenty eight to six. Gosh, I'll
be skipping out of ericson tonight. This has been the
complete package. Savage at halftime and an absolute clinic. An
absolute clinic. What's happened in the off season. But yeah,

(48:58):
I thought that the Roosters would be strong. Catch you soon.
Roosters of school. They've gone cost. I don't know if
they have gone custo cost, but they have scored. Is
it a good thing? I don't know. Hi, Krishna, it's Marcus.
Welcome and good evening time mine.

Speaker 6 (49:15):
Have you good?

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Thanks, Krishna.

Speaker 26 (49:17):
I just wanted to say I do feel that the
three year terms hurt us. There's not enough time to
look at the things you have promised, get them moving
in the right direction and kind of get it implemented.
It's just not enough time. One more year. What would
really be good irrespective of it it's labor or national

(49:38):
I do think that's something that we need to fix
just for the benefit of the entire country. And secondly,
I know, we blame the previous government a lot for
some of the stuff that happened, But you know the
thing we shouldn't forget is back in the day COVID
really did hurt. Yes, labor didn't do the best out
of it as they came out of it, but all

(49:59):
that damage in some of it the National has tried
to fix in this three year term, but it possibly
needs another three year term to fix as much as
you can. And this is disregarding tran and disregarding the
tariffs and all that bullshit. So yes, you've had challenges,
but I think if you give National another shot, I
will say by the end of the next three years,

(50:22):
it'll be a lot a lot better.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
I would think the trouble with a four year term
is that probably a one term government would be more
likely after four years than three years, because if the
I mean they might pull off a victory in November,
but if the way they're going, they wouldn't in a
year's time unless it was a very dramatic turnaround.

Speaker 26 (50:41):
Why would you say in four years the chance of
the government getting re elected.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Is left because as they've been the longer they've been
in government, the popularity has gone down.

Speaker 26 (50:51):
That's certainly if they're not performing, right, if they're not performing,
yet throw them out.

Speaker 28 (50:55):
But right now I think.

Speaker 26 (50:57):
The problem is even if you have a good idea,
by the time you try to implement it's it's just
not doable in three years with the way of a
systems are.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
But two and a half years, it hasn't happened, has it?

Speaker 7 (51:07):
Oh?

Speaker 26 (51:08):
No, no, I agree, it has it happened. I'm not
saying it's the best three years National has done. But
but when you're in such a big hole, firstly, it
takes time to get out. Secondly, nobody could have allowed
for Trump, and there's the stupid stuff that he's been doing,
you know. And yet it may not it may not
seem that it's directly impacted by it. But trust me,

(51:29):
with the way the fuel stuff is going to hit
us again in another two months, we'll all be complaining
about the cost of plemings.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Don't disagree, Christna. I just don't think the four year
terms the solution. But thank you. The point I was
making that probably at a foot you know, and you
think that we normally give our parliamentarians our government six
years unless we really don't like them. It doesn't happen often,
but maybe at four years we would be more likely
to turf them out. It might work again. I don't
think it'll happen too. I don't think. I don't think
they'll get the will of them. He's in it as

(51:57):
a cynical about politics, unfeeling. So sometimes oh something about
there's a text about prayer. But I don't really understand it, Marcus.
I know no one likes the corrector, but people need
to stop saying Luxton or this is going to go
on all year unbearable. Well, that's the amazing thing is

(52:19):
that people will ring the radio station because they believe
they understand and have insight into politics, but don't get
someone's surname right. To me is extraordinary. And they are
the same with just Center and the same with keys.
Never get their name right. And that's the Prime Minister English.

(52:40):
They got right, Clark, they got right. They're not mispronouncing
Dave Rennie. They don't mispronounce all black coaches, do they.
Jamie Joseph, I know is not Dave Rennie. Scott Robertson
got them all right. But yeah, politicians, Marcus reluctantly Christopher
Luxton needs to take stock of his performance, put his

(53:02):
big boy pants on and bow out graciously. Otherwise National
will not win the election. Going on today's results. Regrettably,
the downward slide will continue. Let's really want to know everyone.
If you're a mad National supporter and you want them
to go second term, what do you think needs to happen?
Do you think they need to roll them? And who
do they put in instead? This is your chance another

(53:24):
try to the roosters. He has the comeback, easy run
and soft try. Surprised that Luxon now he's got his
name right. Surprise that Luxton lasted this long, given he
has never been that popular with the general public as
preferred prime minister. No reasonable replacement and for the average vote,
and not a lot of improvement and lifestyle of spending power.

(53:45):
That's from Graham. No one cares JW Zealand as doomed.
The Warriors going very well, but they could could still
lose this. It's pretty sketchy anyway, Get in touch eight
hundred and nine to text Pole poll hypocrites, Ata sausage

(54:09):
roll lucks and lucks off. Marcus, we know you support Labor.
I don't know how misspelled. That's your right and choice.
Of course, I don't like Luxember then Hipkins stuck stuff
his portfolios. No way, I'd vote label with Judith Collins
going I'll wait and see who we get before I
decide on my candidate. I reckon this government needs more time. Well,

(54:32):
it's the question I'm asking you. If you think this
government needs more time, how do they get more time?
Do they change the leader?

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Now?

Speaker 3 (54:40):
Does that give them more chance of getting back in?
Can they turn it around? Or are you happy to
wait for every nervous seven months and get back in?
And you'd have no idea how I vote, no idea
at all. And that's the way probably it should be.
But you don't try and tell me the way I vote,
because it's kind of laughable. But get in touch. Oh

(55:06):
eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine two nine two
to text, woof, Marcus, I don't care about the polls.
The media can't control how I vote. Well, this one
wasn't onn by the media. Was done by a political
organization which is called the Taxpayers Union to an advocacy
group anyhow, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eight if you

(55:31):
want to be a part of it. But yeah, people,
what I can say looking at the text, is that
people are furious, and they can't be furious because we're
talking about it. They can only be furious because I mean,
who would be furious by that poll? The only people
that would be furious by it would be people that

(55:52):
were National Party supporters who are upset that it could
possibly be a one term government. I can't work out
where anyone else would be furious, but I've never seen
such anger. So it's gonna be one heck of an election,
well though it's months away anyway, Marcus, with some of
the negative texts you received regarding our promise to who

(56:14):
would they want in his place? That is a question
they should be asked, and that is exactly the question
I have asked. Does there need to be a change?
Who was the new person that could be better? Very
straightforward question, whereas most of the texts are about who
the Labor government, if it happens, would go into power with,
despite the last party that was in power with the

(56:34):
multi party was the National Government. So I don't fully
understand it. Someone says, I reckon you vote top or
New Zealand first Love It eighteen thirty thirty eighteen. So
the worries are going to be in nervous twenty minutes.
Catch your sown, Lanna, it's Marcus. Good evening and welcome.

Speaker 29 (57:00):
Thank you. There are things about this government I don't like,
and there are some things that I think they've done well,
but I won't be voting for them again because I
don't like the fact that we've got five oh ones
coming into the country. I don't think they even know

(57:21):
where they are, and we've got a hell of a
lot of homeless people.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
And I don't think the government. I don't think the
governments about much about five oh ones. I think they've
both tried, but that seems to be an Australian issue.
I mean, we've got no agency about that.

Speaker 4 (57:36):
Well we should why.

Speaker 29 (57:38):
Because they come into the country and they just disappear
into the ether. And I don't think they have any
support or help to even re establish themselves or given
a second chance.

Speaker 25 (57:49):
Here it's in the country of birth.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
It's the Australian's government. So you think this government should
be give them much more assistance?

Speaker 25 (57:57):
Yes, okay for enough.

Speaker 29 (57:59):
Also, I don't like the way that we could end
up with privatized hospital. I think that they've done good
things for the schools. They've done good things for the farmers,
but we need more social housing. I don't like the
fact that people haven't got a place to live. I
don't like the anti Maori's crap that you keep hearing.

(58:24):
People are just so angry about Maury. It's just that,
and I'm not a Mary. I find it offensive.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Do you think Luxon, given the poll today, is the
right person. Would you be happier if they changed for
someone else or you'd be happier if they stayed.

Speaker 29 (58:39):
I don't want him to stay. I think that he
hasn't got a human touch. He probably is very kind
and all the rest of it, but he doesn't come
across like that. He's quite sort of corporate.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
Yeah, it's hard to explain it because I think both
the previous two prime minister's Key at we're missing up Bishop,
but Key and I don where good community had and
were at ease with people. And Key was like to
like someone that could just chill out and just chew
the fat.

Speaker 29 (59:13):
But he came from state housing, you know, that's where
he was brought up. I don't think Luxton was. And
there is a sort of difference. It's not he hasn't
gotten an earthiness about him. He doesn't really come across
as for everybody.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
Although to his credit he did unite the caucus. He
came on that much experience and became Prime minister. So
for a lot of those people that are there, they've
got a lot of reason to be very very grateful
for him because he got it done, didn't he.

Speaker 29 (59:44):
Well, he actually got into he made agreements with people
that I'm sure that a lot of people in the
country don't like some of the things like ACT for instance.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
And I'm sure because of the coalition agreements he did
make with ACT and some of those bills, it's the
reason probably that they've suffered.

Speaker 29 (01:00:01):
And exactly and the same with New Zealand first with
their drill, baby drill and all that sort of thing.
New Zealanders don't like that. In my humble opinion, think.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
You spot online and I have to talk thank you
for that. Twenty away from twelve eleven ten twenty from
ten the score thirty eighteen. Someone on reasonably good authority
told me that Nelson is full of five O ones. Marcus.
I saw a great comment stick on a card that
said I don't vote for them, but I don't know
what that means when people kind of brag for not

(01:00:37):
being involved with the process. Marcus, none of them are
worth being Prime Minister. Lux and Pale mail style. We
need a lot of change. It's all got a bit boring.
Marcus are really like Lux and he is clever and
doing a great job. The government needs more time to
sort out Labour's mess. Well, if you think he's clever
and doing a great job, are you worried that it

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looks like on the polling today they won't get back
in I mean that's the question. If you think they're
doing a great job, do you want to change the
leader to give them more of a chance to get
returned to power in November. That's pretty straightforward question. That's
the discussion tonight. I reckon thirty eighteen to the Warriors,
get in touch if you want to be a part

(01:01:20):
of it. Nineteen to ten, thirty eighteen to the Warriors.
So the rooster is and looks like a lot of
emotion on the field. Actually there's some strong appealing to
the refinal sorts of stuff. Sixteen to ten. It's not
the leader that needs changing, it's the media is reporting
and accurate and biased which people listen to without fact

(01:01:41):
checking and base their votes on that. I would think
that people listen to a variety of different media these days.
So yeah, I think the old blaming the media thing
is I don't even know what it is. Desperate Luxon
doesn't fit the mold on paper and probably when you
are with him he's solid, but to the public he's
a religious doesn't drink and is of CEO stock. He

(01:02:03):
was on the back foot from the get go. He
doesn't let qualification's an ex charisma, which is a shame.
Surely the leaders shouldn't just be clickable. Well, should get
off TikTok? Shouldn't we Sally? It's Marcus, good evening, How
are you good? Thank you? Sally.

Speaker 30 (01:02:19):
I've just rung up because I feel like the challenge
that the Prime Minister has is that he's a manager
and he's not a leader. And for me, leadership's about action, ideas,
being someone that people want to get behind and follow
in a direction that's better than where you are now.

(01:02:40):
And it feels like we have a prime minister that
has the country managing the country, but it's like we're
in a holding pattern. So we've got a whole lot
of problems, but I don't see a lot of action
or innovation or ideas, and I think that is why
I don't believe that this current government will get back

(01:03:03):
in because people want something to follow. We've had thousands
of people leaving New.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
Zealand, one percent of the country.

Speaker 30 (01:03:13):
Well, and what would be interesting to know is the
number who are thinking about going because I think there's
we've got very high taxes. Big business is doing okay,
banks are doing okay, but your average person is kind
of struggling away, not really going anywhere. And I think

(01:03:33):
there's a whole lot of sort of silos just holding
the country where it is and for people with get
up and go and this is not a place to be.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
I've just spent the week in Auckland, and every conversation
I've had with friends, it's they're going, or more likely
their children have gone and they're going to be with
their children. So now it's not only the people their
twenties and thirties, it's now the older people to go
because they want to be with their kids, to their grandkids.

Speaker 30 (01:04:00):
Well, what have people got to look forward? You know,
heritage tax, more tax motivations kind of gone and I
think we're not holding people to account. We are spending
money all over the place. You know, we put up
nurses wages and teachers wages, everybody's got wage rises in
the state sector. But results were not very good. Educational

(01:04:22):
results not good. We're not getting value from money and
in so many systems. I just think we are not
like you know, borrowing a tamariki, giving people culture or
leave a whole bunch of people taking off work whenever
they like in that crisis ministry and nobody knows what's
going on. I mean, that's so incompetent.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
Is there someone who's in the national caucus that could
lead the country and be the sort of leader that
you require to that people will follow.

Speaker 30 (01:04:54):
Who I think we need to leave the lead the
country is probably someone at the repressed bottom end of
National and that someone who's been kept silence, someone who
would take on in a treaty questions and resolve what
the future they look like. I have suspicions of who

(01:05:15):
those people might be in National, but I know that
they Well, you look at how many people National have
had walk away because they could not rise up into
leadership roles.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
So who is the person do you think.

Speaker 30 (01:05:31):
I think if Erica Stanford was not held under by
the Boys Club, I think she has the potential. I
feel like our prime Minister is passing messages from someone
else never actually feels like he believes what he says,
and I think we need someone who is genuine or
authentic and is going to take on the tough stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Nice to talk, Sillie, Thanks so much for that not
long ago. In the Worries, it's a fairly tense finish
because the Roosters could score twice and win, and they're
close to scoring once. I don't want it, but there
we go. When I say I don't want it, I
don't want it to play out like I think it
might play out. It's ten to It's ten to ten,

(01:06:14):
and I'm looking forward to your calls. Oh I'd love
a clock nine from ten. Robbiets Marcus, Welcome.

Speaker 31 (01:06:25):
Hello, Marcus's and I saw a bit on the news
today or heard it about the problem in christ Jests
with the hospitals. The dialysis patients are going to be
cut down from three times a week to two times
because they don't have the staff, and that's going to
have a big impact on their health. It's not a

(01:06:48):
good thing?

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Is it terrible? Now?

Speaker 31 (01:06:52):
One of the major problems with the health system is
this surprising tomorrow we all left school and you want
to become an apprentice, carpenter, mechanic, electrician, you name it.
You get paid from day one as an apprentice. Nurses

(01:07:12):
do not. They've got to fund themselves and live for
this amount of two or three years whatever the course
is without any pay at all. I know because I've
got relatives currently doing that. And then they wonder why
they can't get enough people to take on the profession.

(01:07:32):
But what is Why would that be?

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
Because they all want to go to Australia because it
pays a lot better, it's a bigger country, it's more exciting,
and we can move there easily. That's the problem. It's Australia, yes.

Speaker 31 (01:07:42):
But the first of all, if you're going to get
the you've got to be a nurse to start. But
I mean, they've put so many hurdles in the way.
How can you live for three years without any pay
and go on to wherever it is if you go
to learn to be a nurse when you don't get
any All those apprentices I've mentioned are paid from day

(01:08:03):
one as an apprentice. It is an income they've got
to take out alone. By the time they've taken that
out and done three years, they're up the creek for
several thousands of dollars, aren't.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
They should national stick with Luxon.

Speaker 31 (01:08:18):
Well, I was watching him the other day when they
asked him the question about the war over there that's
going on, and he just couldn't find the words to
sort of express himself. He seemed very he.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
Didn't seem like he didn't seem like he was across
it or he had been briefed. He seemed ill prepared.

Speaker 31 (01:08:41):
He did seem very ill prepared, And I thought, well,
you know, surely he's up with the play more than
we are. He's got all the information. He just didn't
seem able to be able to handle.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
And I thought that was reflecting that poll. I think
people saw he had a nightmare and thought the guy's
not up for it.

Speaker 7 (01:08:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 31 (01:08:59):
Well, he was sort of, to me, sort of caught
with his pants down, to be honest with you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
So everyone from from every commentator down his said exactly that,
from ordering Young in the Herald to everyone has said
that it was. It was as bad as a performance
as anyone has ever seen.

Speaker 31 (01:09:18):
Yes, I don't know. I mean he seems like a
nice enough sort of blow here where he's a fairly
religious both whether he's tough enough to take the rough
and tumble of being where a position he's in.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
I presume he's still religious, is it? You don't he
doesn't go, You don't see them at church or anything.
But I guess that's probably still part of it.

Speaker 31 (01:09:36):
Well, I think he is so, but I mean that's
that doesn't bury me with his religious or not that.
I don't think he's quite he's just not coming across
to the ordinary man in the streets. I think.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
Yeah, I agree, got no cut through and showing no vulnerability,
sort of always to ye height of an elephant. But
people don't. People don't like that. You're not a listener.
That's his trouble. Not a listener. And I think that's
what you've gotta be, someone that will, you know, go
in there and listen what other people got to say.
Thirty six eighteen two minutes left. Wow, she's going to

(01:10:13):
be a big night in the tammacky Mikado tonight with
the warriors and the supporters. Wow, that's been extraordinary. Lola
Marcus good evening.

Speaker 32 (01:10:24):
Yes, good evening, Marcus. On Sunday morning, there was a
Q and A and there was a guy called Gary
Stevenson and he had half an hour talking about the
economy and everything, and it was a very good program.
And what he emphasized was things are going backwards a lot,

(01:10:50):
but the people with the top incomes are not paying
the share of tax that we used to pay before
nineteen eighty four, we paid sixty six cents in the
top dollars and they're not paying that anymore. So what's
happening is the poorer getting poorer, and now the middle

(01:11:11):
income are getting poorer.

Speaker 20 (01:11:13):
And when we.

Speaker 32 (01:11:15):
Had the recent tax cuts, the people on the low
income's got a little bit of money, but the people
at the top got heaps.

Speaker 33 (01:11:24):
And that has to change.

Speaker 28 (01:11:26):
And so.

Speaker 31 (01:11:28):
In Norway and Sweden.

Speaker 32 (01:11:30):
And that they have a wealthare system and they're paying
fifty cents fifty cents in the dollar tax the top dollars,
and our tax rate is too low for the high
income people. And it's not supporting the hospitals for education,
it's not doing money for all the.

Speaker 25 (01:11:52):
Fuel problems that we're going to be having.

Speaker 32 (01:11:55):
It's just going to get worse.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
I agree with you too. I've met a lot of
people that have been long to hear Gary Stevenson speak
and I haven't seen his YouTube stuff, but people are
really convinced by what he's got to say. Gary Stevenson,
he's a speaker from England. You canna hear him stuff online.
But you're quite convincing and some quite thought provoking stuff.
I'm glad you mentioned it. I might seek out that

(01:12:18):
one on Q and A the Warriors of One and
that's a great thing. We've finally got something to look
forward to. Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty. Welcome people.
My name is Marcus. If you are heading back from
Ericsson Mount smout, let us know how the atmosphere was
looked like. It was extraordinary. Boy, the fans look passionate.
I'll get to the text. Thanks for holding online, will

(01:12:38):
be becoming available. Carame, It's Marcus. Welcome, good evening.

Speaker 34 (01:12:41):
Hi, Yes, hi Marcus, how are you good thinking?

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
How's yourself all right? Good?

Speaker 16 (01:12:47):
Thanks?

Speaker 34 (01:12:47):
Yeah? So with the National Party, I used to be
a National Party voter, but you lately have been speaking
to them as well, And yeah, I think these shoes
are like whether we like it or not. The New
Zealand economy is tied to our property well, you know,

(01:13:08):
with a wealth effect from property prices going up.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
Absolutely, our whole economy is housing.

Speaker 34 (01:13:16):
Yes, So that that's one of the issues. I know
that a lot of people don't like that or agree
with and I can I totally understand and I respect
their opinions, but we've got no other option unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
And we're not and we're not pivoting with research and
development into manufacturing. It seems as though we're happy without
exporting of milk powder and that's about it. There's no
incentive to diversify the economy.

Speaker 34 (01:13:40):
And so the issue is like when the Housing Minister,
you know, keeps saying, oh, well, you know, we won't
house prizes to keep going down or whatever they're doing.

Speaker 13 (01:13:48):
And then.

Speaker 34 (01:13:50):
Last year, you know, even the Finance Minister says a
couple of things, and then the Prime Minister this year
in the State of the Nation speech mentioned that as well,
that well, we don't want to rely on sugarhead to
the economy from property prices going up.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
So although although that's exactly why they've opened up that
buyers thing for overseas buyers, they're waiting for the sugar
hit for the five million dollar properties. In fact, I
read about the papers every day. They're about to open
the floodgates and queens down this weekend. I think.

Speaker 34 (01:14:21):
Yeah, So, I think the problem is that when they
keep saying that, you know that they're alienating their own base.
Like as you know, elections are one in Auckland most
of the time, you know, so when the Auckland property
markets down twenty five percent and people have got no hope,
and you know we're hearing the sort of retrick from

(01:14:42):
the government, the current you know, obviously mostly from the
National Party, it's it's, yeah, there's a lot of you know,
its own base just feel like, you know, we're being
alienated and picked on. And even though I admit that, okay,
you know, they reversed some of the changes, you know,
for the interest deductibility for investors. They you know, bought

(01:15:05):
the bright Line Testitute years, They've done some changes, But
the rhetoric around the property market, when they keep repeating that,
oh well, we don't want to rely on you know,
we want to kind of decouple the housing from the economy,
and it's it's really big statements they're making you know,

(01:15:26):
which is making a lot of people nervous because, as
you know, a lot of wealth in New Zealand is
tied up in property just about. Yeah, so that's one
of the issues I see. You know, they're not they're
not really alienating farmers. I mean, I can't speak for farmers,
but I'm I'm speaking for property owners. That's one of
the biggest problems. Like if you look at the Labor party,

(01:15:48):
usually a lot of property investors of you know, they
wouldn't really consider voting for labor. But you know what,
even if labor is going to bring in a capital
gains tax, Chris Hopkins has actually said that he wants
house prices to go up, you know, keeping up with
inflation and you know, wages or whatever. U as long
as you don't sell your house. Actually, labor is guaranteeing

(01:16:12):
housepriz is going up, you know, once they're bringing the tax,
because that's the only way they're going to make the revenue.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
Do you think National should Do you think National should
change their leader?

Speaker 7 (01:16:22):
Now?

Speaker 34 (01:16:23):
Well, this is the issue. I'd like to say yes,
but I'd like to know the view views of the
next leader because if we get for example, the housing
minister become the next leader. I mean, actually that's where
it started from. From where we can see, we've been
watching this for two years and the rhetoric that's coming
from the Housing minister is very, very scary. So you know,

(01:16:47):
we don't want somebody like that leading the country, you know.
So so I mean, I would like to say Ericas Stanford,
but I'd like to know the views of Erica Stanford
on the economy, on housing and you know if because
that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
So you think we don't know enough about her yet
for her to be leader because we don't. I mean,
we know what she said on education, we don't know
the other stuff, do we?

Speaker 34 (01:17:10):
Yes, But I'd like to say I really like here Christanford,
and I think it would work. But in saying that,
you know, what's the view is it?

Speaker 33 (01:17:18):
Is it?

Speaker 34 (01:17:18):
If it's a similar you, then again, a lot of
property owners or investors are just going to turn around
and say, well, it's not to do with the I'm
sorry to say, it's not to do with the personality.
It's to do with the economy, you know, And the
economy is not going to recover unless the until the
house prices are going to recover. In Auckland and Wellington
and most of North Island or wherever the prizes have

(01:17:39):
gone down.

Speaker 9 (01:17:39):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
Are you a landlord? What is that? Your your motivation
for where you are? Is it? Is that why you've
rung and settle this stuff? Yeah?

Speaker 34 (01:17:50):
I mean I've been speaking about this for a while
and observing what's going on if I'm in the property industry,
and it's.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
Been because when you say it's down twenty five percent,
although in nine and twenty twenty it was up artificially,
so so that twenty five percent figure is from the
high there was. It's not quite that drastic, yes, I know,
but it's.

Speaker 34 (01:18:09):
A psychological impact that has. And and as it's it's
fine if it goes down, it's just paper wealth. It's
there's nothing wrong with it. You know, it will correct
and it'll come back. We all know that. But when
the National Party, which they used to be you know
for property investors or property owners or you know they
used to back house prices, when they come keep saying

(01:18:32):
like two or three people and their party keep repeating
these sort of stuff, it's it's it's very unsettling and
we're not spooking out or and then you know. I
know there'll be other people cheering, going, oh wow, you know,
property investors are getting scared, and they'll be cheering. But
it's not about that, you know. I'm talking about the
whole economy link to the property market, and we can't
just divorce houses, you know, and just remove them from

(01:18:55):
the economy just like that. But I see this commentary
coming from economists from every sector, and it's almost like
a propaganda and it's almost like, you know, they spread this.
I don't know, I don't know what's going on. It's
it's really weird. I don't know where it's coming from.
But unfortunately, we're stuck in this doom loop. And now
we're going to blame it on the war. Oh well,

(01:19:17):
we're just going to be going back into a recession
because of the war.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
But certainly Luxeon's not the guy. He hasn't got the
support of the people to get us out of the
doom loop. He's he's contributed to the doom loop because
he seems to be he's not leading us to the
promised land. He seems to be out of answers.

Speaker 34 (01:19:35):
But I mean, no, My point is if the economy improves,
it doesn't matter you know what Luckson says or not.
I don't think it's it's it's actually relevant. If the
economy improves, they will get back you know, even if
like you know, if people start feeling good and going
out and starting to spend and the economy improves, they'll
get back in. And that's all. That's all it needs.

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
Okay, I'm nice to talk. Thanks about that, Roberts, Marcus.

Speaker 7 (01:19:59):
Welcome here, Marcus. How are you good?

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
Thank you? Rob excited about the Warriors winning, by the way,
pen with Fournel over Brisbane. What have you got?

Speaker 27 (01:20:07):
Look, I I'd be sad to see if if lux
And gave that or or resigned. He's got he's got
to stay strong.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
And what would you be sad or about lux and
resigning a national not getting in?

Speaker 27 (01:20:26):
No, no, look, I'm not the right supporter. I'm a
center supporter and I vote on policy.

Speaker 7 (01:20:33):
Now.

Speaker 27 (01:20:34):
What I'm sick of with the right is constantly blaming
the left for for the predicament we're in. I want
to see something substantial from them.

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
It is tiresome that blame. It's been six years since COVID.

Speaker 27 (01:20:48):
Exactly, so they've got to look, he's got to grasp
the nation and he's not doing it. I respect his
work here ethic. He's a very hard worker. He's here,
there and everything, such a hard worker.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
When he never said when he always says, I'm sorry,
not across that. He's got no portfolios, doesn't seem to
read this stuff.

Speaker 27 (01:21:08):
Yeah, I know, I agree with you. Well, look, and
I would hold personally his advisers, has media advisors, they've
got to be hopeless.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
I don't think he listen. I don't think he listens
to them.

Speaker 34 (01:21:21):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 27 (01:21:21):
Look, he tongue ties his words. But but he's got
to stay strong, he's got to look. He champions New Zealand.
That's what I like about him, and I like.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
That way means spirited. What was the comments he made
about Is he remember those that he made?

Speaker 27 (01:21:40):
I do?

Speaker 7 (01:21:40):
I do?

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
We're witt and whiney.

Speaker 27 (01:21:44):
Oh no, And he giff he gaffed that he said
go where the jobs are and seventy two thousand people.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
If that's not a gift to say we're witt and
whiny and inward looking.

Speaker 27 (01:21:55):
Yeah, but that's what that's what the Core National Party
and the far right like. They like that sort of stuff. Look,
he's he's got to stay strong, Marcus, and he's got
to see it out. If he's going to lose, the
lose on polling day. Don't give up.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
Now. I've got to say I've spent I've spent the
week in Auckland. I've got to say that down south.
I live in Bluff. But you know, obviously in the
bottom of the South Island the whole perception of the
economy is entirely different. There is a dairy boom going
on and the that part of the country is absolutely booming.

(01:22:36):
And you don't you don't get the negative talk and
Auckland everyone's just talking about moving to Sydney or Australia.
It's interesting. But Rob, I've en George you thanklly very much.
Thank you for that. Get in touch eight hundred oh anyway,
get in touch if you want to talk, but if
you just join the show. The Warriors won and they

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won really convincingly. At the moment there is a really
good match Penrith against Brisbane, both top four finishers from
last year and parents got nearly Triither up four No.
Eighteen past ten. Get in touch twenty past ten, high
warrant ats Marcus. Thanks for hanging on there. Good evening.

Speaker 19 (01:23:17):
Sure, hey Margus, he I didn't know even notice on
Sorry all day day on law station sid B was
the leading story was about Lunesome, you know down the
polls right now. When I came to TV one, TV
one didn't say worry about it. And on TV I

(01:23:38):
switched out the TV three and it was a lead story.
Oh my god, you're talking about bias, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
It was much commented on online about that because there'd
been criticism of TV and Z in some discussion about
when they did crime stats and talked about there have
been more games and policemen. So look, I was surprised.
I don't watch one news, are surprised to me, that's
the biggest story as six any conservative organization with its
new It was a big story with LUX and on

(01:24:08):
with But maybe it's just to stick up for TV
and Z. They have their own pole that they do
and maybe that that's coming out in a week or
two and they want to talk their own pole up more.
And also too, the curier pole is the Taxpayers Union,
which is the right wing think tank. They clearly don't

(01:24:30):
want LUX and they clearly want someone more to the
right so they it's repointed how they leaked that pole.
They they clearly want Lux and out and they don't
like Willis. They've been going on and on about Willis,
remember because Ruth Richardson challenged Willis to that debate. So
they are an advocacy group that would have my understanding.
They want to be rid of Willis and Lux and

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so that's that's why they talk that pole up. So
there is a bit of manipulation with that. But yeah,
I thought it was surprising.

Speaker 19 (01:24:58):
Yeah, I mean, there's a lead story and of course
on TV story too.

Speaker 7 (01:25:03):
I mean, and they heard because.

Speaker 19 (01:25:08):
I listened to Head of the South on the radio
and they had her, her Lutson's voice on TV three.
You know she was interviewing them on because I think
she was.

Speaker 3 (01:25:19):
I think she was the only because I think she
was the only person that spoke to him. I don't
think he was anywhere else.

Speaker 19 (01:25:23):
No, No, but oh I couldn't believe it. Marcus Hey,
to me, it's so biased, the least story of the day,
like it's on all stations. Because I was twitching over
to other stations and it was.

Speaker 7 (01:25:37):
On all of them.

Speaker 19 (01:25:37):
It was the least story, and they didn't even lead,
was it? Or halfway through the TV news are there?

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
I guess, yeah, I am here. I'm thinking with TV
news though, right, you do need to have pictures, and
if they didn't have any actuality of lux and talking,
it's probably hard to build a story. Otherwise, all they
can do is have reporters talking to the camera, or
they can be running around Parliament trying to talk to someone.

(01:26:07):
So they're probably hard stories to put together when you've
just got numbers. But yeah, yeah, I'm kind of justified
sticking up for them, but I don't understand it.

Speaker 19 (01:26:15):
Yeah, And like he said, he said he's not going
to leave. Okay, fair enough, that's up to him. But
I'll tell you what, Marcus. In the next polls, it
was down further than twenty eight. They heavy, they pushed out, They.

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
Say to go okay, but they say he's not leaving.
He said he's not leaving. But a lot can happen
on the weekend. I mean, he might talk to his advisors,
John Key might talk to him. A lot could happen,
and you know things might be very different on Monday.

Speaker 34 (01:26:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:26:44):
Point, But the point is, Marcus, why what should he
greg the rest of the team down, Like he goes
to the polls and he's low rating. He goes to
the polls and he brings this team down. They lose
an election and all the top my chows lose their jobs.
Yeah you know, I mean he's a captain of a ship.
You know, he's just said an example like, Okay, I

(01:27:08):
lead the ship as it's going, so I stay to
the end and the polls are down, he loses, or
that's the party loses, but all the head moncos are gone.

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
That's what Andrew That's what Andrew Little did, didn't he
He just said this is not going to happen. He
wasn't cutting through the He was an experienced politician, he
was a smart operator. Now he's the mayor of Wellington.
But he just could say that it wasn't going to happen.
Gave the old dunk and gave the old swerve and
a don got it.

Speaker 19 (01:27:33):
Yeah, but that's what a good leader. A good leader. Okay,
wait for the next poll. If it's down, okay, then
he's got to have the gumption to say, okay, I'm
going now because I'm working for the team, right. And
he goes to the polls and it's down, down, down,
and he loses.

Speaker 7 (01:27:52):
Well, my god, but.

Speaker 19 (01:27:54):
His right he men must have going Come on mate,
come on.

Speaker 7 (01:27:57):
Give it up, give it up.

Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
And I don't think his poles are going to go up,
because once you have that perception of vulnerability, it becomes contagious,
don't you people? More and more is he going to go?
What's going to happen to? And that becomes the story.

Speaker 19 (01:28:10):
And the thing is, Marcus, you know all of all
the ministers in that if they do something wrong, well
he tells them all, doesn't he. You know what I mean?
You know he jumps on them. Well, actually we jumped
it all over him. But I wait for the next polls. Now,
if they're down, he's got to go, Marcus. I mean, say,
I vote national, but if he's in there, probably voting

(01:28:33):
for is.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
Someone you'd like to see to succeed him as someone
you'd like to see that it's better.

Speaker 19 (01:28:40):
What's the name, Erica Stanford? He's the one brilliant.

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
Thank you Warren. The Warren Commission. For those who just
joined us, the worrior is put on a clinic. If
you're driving home, let us no, I'm sure you're still there.
The players are still signing. Someone says, when Nashville got
and they cut out news time, what does that mean.
I think they did cut the news time. Don't have
the soelth and blames. I want more news and miss it,
not other they've cut the news time, hiding it's Marcus

(01:29:06):
good evening.

Speaker 35 (01:29:07):
Yeah, macus I obausonally don't really understand the polls. But
that's fine. I keep reflecting that Helen Clark got down
to two percent personal support in the mid nineties and
her party got to fifteen percent, and there was talk
about the Alliance overtaking them because they were actually ahead
of the polls, and they won the election a few

(01:29:28):
years later. So you know, bad poles are bad polls.
I think Luxin is doing a good job. I don't
vote national, but I certainly support the right, and yeah,
I'll be more than heady he stays on. I just
hope they get some traction. People get over themselves and
they realize that he actually knows what he's doing as
opposed to the alternative and see sense, and somebody can

(01:29:50):
execue the job.

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
And if he does go whenever that is is this
someone that you see as the likely successful Well.

Speaker 35 (01:29:56):
There's one of your previous calls sort of alluded to
something that I'm not sure he's aware of, is that
there was any number of potential leaders in national Whether
they get the as and capability of doing the job,
whether they actually get public traction or not, I don't know.
And that's a big thing. Apparently people like the Messiah

(01:30:17):
cult of all powerful, all knowing, super popular leader.

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
They wouldn't serve to answer the question, Dean, is there
someone that you had in mind?

Speaker 35 (01:30:25):
I was getting there, mate, I've I've just got.

Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
News headlines coming up. Sorry, okay, let you go. Thanks
so much for that. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty and
nine two nine two to text. If you want to
come through, the number is eight hundred eighty ten eighty
and nine to nine two to text. Someone said the
most untrustworthy poll in the country. I don't know what
they mean about the news time though, but if you
want to talk. By the way, the warriors have one

(01:30:49):
with that clinic ericson anyway, hold your horse as Susio
be with you soon as I say, oh, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty evening mark. Because I don't think Luxon
should stand down based on one poll, but I agree
with others here has no charisma at all. I can't
stand the killer Willis, who is Finance Minister yet has
absolutely no financial qualifications whatsoever. Really like enough Erica Stanford,

(01:31:13):
but she hasn't had enough experience, don't need it. Who
I'll vote for? But God help New Zealand if Labour
gets in j m Ho. I don't know what that means,
but thanks for that. Someone says, hilarious, Marcus great radio.
Hi Marcus. People just hate leaders. In the past, the
hate has been named. But hipkins are doing Willis Richardson,

(01:31:33):
English clerk, little shippy Muldoon, now Luxon. They criticize bald
heads and teeth. Isn't it about the party's policy, not
the leaders. Do the leaders make all the policies, don't
they fire the bullets caucus make Luxon should speak more articulately,
no arms and urs and stop slagging the previous party.
People won't like the won't like the next leader Betcher.

(01:31:54):
There is no one to replace him. Lose on polling day.
I've always voted for Winston because of his policies. Susie,
it's Marcus good evening.

Speaker 16 (01:32:02):
Oh sure, yeah, it's really interesting because I love and
like I'm on the cuff of being a boomer and
the next generation like I'm you're.

Speaker 13 (01:32:24):
A boomer, and I'm like, I'm not a boomer.

Speaker 16 (01:32:28):
Because being a boomer these days is not a good thing.
But anyway, Christopher Laxon, as far as I'm concerned, and
also my younger nieces nephews, he's got no substance. And

(01:32:51):
that's the thing. He's got no substance. He's got no grounding.
He doesn't gend up. He's always like saying things like
we've got which do oh yeah, well, well we'll just

(01:33:11):
get around that.

Speaker 6 (01:33:14):
You know.

Speaker 16 (01:33:14):
He's not a leader.

Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
Yeah, people don't seem to have fallen in love with them.
And that doesn't seem to be changing, does it. People
seem to Yeah, And he hasn't got the confidence of
the country.

Speaker 16 (01:33:27):
No, no way. He's supposed to be a leader of
artier load New Zealand and he stumbles.

Speaker 3 (01:33:39):
Okay, thanks, Susie. Agree with your caller. Rob Luxon will
stick around and hang on for election. To feit out
of that, she only need to part with his head
held high. Subsequently, we'll pick up a high paying senior
role in offshore multinational having said that consistency with Luxon
is still the best option. There we go. If you
want to comment eight ten eighty. Keep those emails coming

(01:34:02):
through to some good emails, Marcus. Greetings Marcus, you are
correct when you said an MP might be perceived as
doing a good job in their portfolio, but that does
not make them the Prime Minister of Material. Stanford is
avery inexperienced politicianis still as a way to go to
develop her people's skills and her leadership skills. She is

(01:34:23):
bombarded the education sector with an unreasonable amount of change
and wants it up and running asap. This is not
how you bring about educational change. She doesn't have the
pedagogy and depth of educational knowledge. I don't think she
would bring about a surge of support. Bishop is ambitious
that he really wants the job. I see him with
Willis as DP or Deputy Prime Minister. There are a
lot of MPs, a lot of Natty MP's who are

(01:34:45):
facing job losses, so they won't be wanting a leader
who will cost them that. I thought it was arrogant
of lux And to say the polls from England are
the ones he pays attention to. I think he will
be pushed out now. We never got to know whom
he's real out of touch with ordinary Kiwis, especially those
in really tough areas Tanaquay. Marcus, I was asked to
have a talk with our local national mp IS. She

(01:35:06):
emailed him over time with concerns and suggestions. I was
only othercated fifty minutes. He didn't seem consumed about our
immediate local doctor shortage, was not in favor of a
wealth text to help our doctor, nurse teacher shortage, and
our failing health system. Did not seem consumed about the
cost of meat and fish in our supermarket, nor the
fact that low income people are struggling. He even said,

(01:35:28):
just because you are sixty five of paid taxes doesn't
mean you deserve the pension. It was redisappointing. It seems
that he wasted my time as he has his own
banter and agenda. He put me off completely and was
upsetting Hi Marcus. He's a younger voter's perspective, paid off
the student loan reason a good job. Don't appreciate being

(01:35:49):
called a bottom feeders as earn under seventy five grand
favorite saying of Luxein's actually hate. I'm all good, I'm
all good, did he say? He sorted? Maybe he says
I'm all good as well. But the real joy is
the Warriors and the clinic at Ericson. Gosh, everyone, Chris
Luxon is a leader, but he's not a politician, so

(01:36:09):
he mucked up his words the other day. He's human,
he's a good family man and he doesn't deserve such vitriol.
Thanks heat oh, Heather. People over the world are unhappy
with current leaders Trump, Starmer Albanisi. It's just people are
not happy worldwide. Although Albanize recently got returned, didn't he

(01:36:29):
Someone says you don't have a more competent candidate to
replace Luxen, Well, often I think the appearance of competence
he comes with the role. Whny a time someone's been
elevated at the top position and there's suddenly your perception
of them changes because they have that job. So yeah,
that's just the psychology of it. I believe twenty three

(01:36:52):
Away from eleven tends at pen with over Brisbane and
the Warriors. Well well, well, well, well, well, well the
miracle of Erickson. What's the herald saying? Warriors make statement?
Andrew Webbs decided crushed the Roosters forty to eighteen in
season opener. For a team that often struggles and season openers,

(01:37:13):
the Warriors flipped the script with a convincing display against
the Sydney Roosters in Auckland, standing ovation as the fish
led the mountain into the field. Brilliant o Tennor Boyd
played well three tries each for him and Chanelle Harris,
Tavita Jackson, Fordament's two ninety meters to nineteen, twenty two
to eleven, me twenty gosh, the night has flowing twenty

(01:37:42):
to eleven. Rishi Marcus, welcome, good.

Speaker 36 (01:37:44):
Evening, Good evening, Marcus.

Speaker 7 (01:37:46):
How you doing good?

Speaker 9 (01:37:47):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:37:48):
Rishie yourself?

Speaker 7 (01:37:49):
Yeah, good, thanks mate.

Speaker 36 (01:37:50):
I mean, look, I'm Bonn Indian and came here when
I was eighteen and nineteen eighteen and a half. Anyway,
long story shot, I always listened to this radio just
to improve myself in terms of learning the accent and
easily getting into the culture and just adding what I
can as a as a civilian. So I mean again,

(01:38:12):
for this topic, it's a really amazing topic. It's good topic.
It's a fair topic because it's about the country. But
then that reminds me of my time when I started
my own business back in twenty seventeen. I did the delegations,
all that stuff, I mean, and just to understand the
basics and what's happening.

Speaker 21 (01:38:34):
With the business.

Speaker 36 (01:38:36):
We bort it and it took me two years to
turn around every single thing, because obviously you have to
understand every single thing about the whole thing, just to
make sure that you take the right steps at the
right time and right de season. It technically took me.

Speaker 7 (01:38:48):
It was a small business.

Speaker 27 (01:38:49):
Still still doing the business.

Speaker 36 (01:38:51):
I'm still in there, learn my ways every day just
to survive and carry on, you know, make the day
go good for everyone. So turning the country but then
running the business was with no debt on the business.
I was just myself the cash flow and looking after
the whole thing. But turning the country with one hundred

(01:39:11):
and eighty billion dollar debt. It's massive and it looks
about ten to eleven billion dollar interest only. It's crazy,
crazy money for the population we are here in this country.
The purpose is that I'm not in the favor of
any politician. But the good thing about this guy is
that he's from He's not in this politics from the

(01:39:33):
day one in his life. So he's trying to do
what I can see exactly what I would do, exactly
everybody who is in the business ran and understand how
it works, because it's just the whole country is running
to just to grab every single thing that the best
we can do every day for making everybody happy around
us and safe around us. So what I have seen

(01:39:54):
is that everything even the FDA with other countries practically
just look at the guy called Todd McLoyd, the Foreign
Minister right now, not the Foreign Minster, the the trade mister.

Speaker 34 (01:40:08):
Uh.

Speaker 36 (01:40:09):
He's more out out of his home and rather than
his home with his family. But he's just running out
do the best.

Speaker 26 (01:40:16):
Job for the kids out there.

Speaker 7 (01:40:18):
Uh.

Speaker 36 (01:40:18):
And it's under the leadership of Luxen. So I don't
know what people say, but you just have to go
practical stats by stats, the amount of debt we have,
the person that's we're paying and all all this together
and barely yesterday.

Speaker 27 (01:40:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:40:34):
Do you want the national government to have a second term, mate?

Speaker 36 (01:40:39):
Honestly, the three year is basically for even a small business,
who took me two years to just turn the tables
and bring into the profit.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
So you want national to have a second term.

Speaker 36 (01:40:50):
I really believe this country really needs some more stable stuff.
So it takes a sign getting there.

Speaker 3 (01:40:56):
So yeah, yes or no? You want you want a
second Okay, do you think they're more like? Do you
think they're more likely to get that without lux and
in charge? That's the real quick.

Speaker 36 (01:41:07):
I'm honest to you. He needs to front up. I
mean again, you.

Speaker 3 (01:41:10):
Know, are they more likely to get back in with
someone else leading them? Someone fresh?

Speaker 36 (01:41:16):
I would say Luxan is good.

Speaker 3 (01:41:18):
Okay, that's your answer.

Speaker 36 (01:41:19):
He just needs to front up. He needs to use
his words really carefully, and he needs to he needs
to act in the favor of the he's it's actually
doing exactly for the country.

Speaker 3 (01:41:27):
But people don't more into the corppreat People don't change.

Speaker 36 (01:41:32):
I think people people change. I really believe so, because
change is the human nature. You have to change with
the time. And I hope that he's changing fast enough
because he's doing everything fine. But he just needs to
pick the right words. He needs to face more again,
like again, rather than putting into the people, which is
the before labor. I don't want to go there at all,
to be honest, because the debt is just too much

(01:41:54):
for us. Okay, but again it's all coming down and
it's all happening with times. But I just hope that
because obviously three more years and then you can definitely
see the full chapter what he wanted to do at
least need people need some time to basically breed and
breed out. Look every day, I think we should give
him a chance.

Speaker 3 (01:42:11):
What's your business, Rashie? Quickly? What's your business?

Speaker 36 (01:42:15):
I'm in hospitality. I love this country, and so we
are in restaurant.

Speaker 3 (01:42:19):
And it goes all right, well.

Speaker 36 (01:42:21):
It's better, it's not. I won't say we're doing really good,
but again, you know, it's the first quarter that we
had in the positive world after eight quarters of negative
or even Blaine ball. But again, it's better than last year, brilliant.

Speaker 3 (01:42:39):
We want to get to fifteen to ten, fifteen to eleven.
Good evening, James, then welcome.

Speaker 9 (01:42:46):
Okay, how are you good?

Speaker 3 (01:42:47):
James? Thank you?

Speaker 11 (01:42:49):
Just went away in briefly, So, look, a lot of
good things are being done by this caverman. But I
think fundamentally what's going on wrong for them is they're
a lot messaging things and communicating things properly, right. A
lot of these things like green shoots do not really
matter to the ordinary man and the household. Yes, a

(01:43:13):
lot of good things are happening, but people are.

Speaker 20 (01:43:15):
Not feeling it.

Speaker 11 (01:43:17):
So the government needs to message things and communicate things properly.
For example, in Layman's terms, we are doing a lot
of good things, but it will take time. Things like
green shoots are putting false expectations. We know things are
not going to turn overnight. It's not going to take
a couple of years. It will take many years. They

(01:43:38):
need to honestly communicate to the people.

Speaker 3 (01:43:42):
So is he not communicating then? Is that why his
poll is in the twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:43:46):
Eighth I think so.

Speaker 11 (01:43:48):
I think so. I think it is not this.

Speaker 3 (01:43:51):
I mean I don't disagree. So that do they need
someone He lost the room a year ago, I remember
having the same discussions lost the room, So they need
to do they need to do a circuit breaker and
find someone that people will listen to.

Speaker 11 (01:44:08):
I think that's inevitable. I mean, I really like Luxon,
I really think he's.

Speaker 2 (01:44:14):
A he's a great guy.

Speaker 11 (01:44:16):
But like a lot has been said, being a great
businessman doesn't make you a good politician. A lot of
good things. I need to reiterate this a lot of
good things are being done, but they need to be
honest in their communications. Say it will take time.

Speaker 3 (01:44:41):
What do you say, what do you say? He is
a great guy, James, Look.

Speaker 11 (01:44:47):
He honestly is a very nice guy. I don't know him.
I haven't met him.

Speaker 34 (01:44:53):
I've read about him.

Speaker 3 (01:44:55):
Did you say you have met him when you haven't
met him.

Speaker 20 (01:44:57):
I haven't met him.

Speaker 9 (01:45:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:45:00):
Look, I think he's a top bloke, probably in the
wrong job.

Speaker 3 (01:45:08):
I'll leave it, thank you, turn away from eleven o'clock.
The Warrior is one clinic at Ericsson Man go from
start to finish. Now I'm just looking now Penrith over
Brisbane sixteen zip. Every time I look up, Cleary's doing something,
Nathan kicking goals and doing the lot. But I don't

(01:45:28):
know what's happened there. I haven't reready been watching. So
someone said there was a herald pile that did you
see that? I don't even know what that was. It
was in there in the It was in the article
said do you think people lux and doing a good
job that that is just a waste of time, that's

(01:45:50):
just to drive clicks and engagement. So yeah, you can, Yeah,
you can't just dismiss poles and say, well, yeah, I
know that's what a lot of people like to do.
They say, oh, well the pole is not scientific, or
they're wrong, rung the role people rung the wrong people.

(01:46:11):
Polls are a fairly important snapshot of what people are thinking,
and they show trends. But you know, I think you
dismissed the polls at your own peril. Nine from eleven.
I suppose the real question is why Christopher Laxon agreed
to go on used talks. He'd be drive at short notice.

(01:46:33):
If it's a shroller shrug to the pole, you don't
go and do that, do you. That's probably the salient point.
Hello John Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 15 (01:46:41):
Yeah Marcus. I just want to say good evening to
you and all your workers and everyone listening. I'm straight
to the point. I'm not happy with what's been going
on and our politics, but they need to sort this
out pretty quick because we've got people that are dire

(01:47:05):
knee need of help because of our health system. Our
health system is most important because it's a.

Speaker 7 (01:47:14):
Part of life.

Speaker 15 (01:47:15):
We all get old and our body starts breaking down.
Now I've seen Arah, I've seen the staff that's been
gone from there. They are very important, but unfortunately they've
all lost their jobs and they were their teaching the
young ones how to do this and painting and carpentry

(01:47:37):
and all that sort of stuff. Martus, I really feel
that our country at the moment is in dire straits.
Somebody needs to pull some plum out of somewhere. And me,
I still feel that our younger ones and our oldly

(01:47:58):
need the help and our health system and hearing that
on the news about dialysis and there's bloody disgusting, So yeah,
they better pull some fingers somewhere. And actually, while I'm
on the subject, just imagine those poor people that's happening

(01:48:19):
over the other side of the world that's copying it.
So really, in that part of the situation, we are
very lucky.

Speaker 3 (01:48:28):
Thank you John and the warriors has given us hope. Yeah.
Guitar's energy Minister, sad Elkabe, said it could take weeks
to months for energy exports to return to normal levels
even if the war ended immediately. Following an Iranian drone
strike on the country's largest liquefied national gas plant, isn't
that we're getting our natural gas from, he warned the

(01:48:52):
confort in the Middle East could bring down the economies
of the world, as the world's second largest producer of
L ANDNG was forced to declare what it's known as
a force moseur, when a company is freed from conchecktoral
obligation to the event of extraordinary circumstances beyond its control. Wow,
I'm not heard often here at the force moseur. A

(01:49:12):
couple of things. Oil is on track for the biggest
weekly gain in four years as traffic in the straits
or hormus comes to a standstill. The other thing that
I need to tell you is that weight loss drugs
such as were Govi and ozempic, their price could come
down to three dollars a month according to new analysis.

(01:49:33):
This is because the patents are expiring. That's good news. Ah,
not just now, but soon maybe Tom. It's Marcus, Welcome,
good evening.

Speaker 37 (01:49:41):
Oh hi, Marcus, I'm I'm on this tune and so
I haven't heard what you've already spoken about. But I
was just wondering watching Tellybone News tonight. I'm surprised I
didn't make any mention of the government or Duckson's latest poll.

Speaker 3 (01:49:58):
Yeah, and that might be because they want to look
up their own pole and they don't approve of the
taxpayer union poll or okay, yeah, I don't know what
the reason.

Speaker 37 (01:50:08):
I mean, it was a lead item on TV three
I noticed, and it was it was on all the
radio stations and on the internet. But TV one made
no mention of it, which I thought was really unusual
or strange.

Speaker 3 (01:50:21):
It was glaringly unusual.

Speaker 37 (01:50:23):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, that's what I got to say.

Speaker 25 (01:50:26):
Strange.

Speaker 3 (01:50:27):
Yeah, And and I think it is an unfortunate look
for them.

Speaker 37 (01:50:33):
Maybe they'll talk about it on Monday.

Speaker 3 (01:50:34):
Perhaps, Yeah, I think. I mean, it looks like a
misstep to me. Certainly. It was a very big news
on z B and you call that news.

Speaker 7 (01:50:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:50:45):
Yeah, I can't explain that, and maybe it's their job
to explain that as well. Okay, that's all because I
need to be because TVZ needs to be impartial and
they need to be seen.

Speaker 37 (01:50:56):
But but but not broadcasting it makes it makes them
not part impartial.

Speaker 3 (01:51:02):
Well you wonder why that decision was made. Yeah, yeah,
And people need to have answers about why that decision
was made to not run that poll. Thank you, Tom.
And this is on the back of the story about
criticism for the TV and zed for not going on
a poll when they said that crime figures were down.
But TVNZ ran with a story about the number of

(01:51:24):
gangs being more than the number of policemen and were
criticized for that. Well, there was commentary about that too,
and yet it's very important that the state media is independent.
So you might be heading home from the warriors and
you might want to talk about, if you are a
National Party supporter, what should the National Party do? Stick

(01:51:48):
with Captain fantastic Luxon and Backham to the election or
is now the time to change? And are they more
likely to get a second term if they've got a
bit of new blood in there? And who is that
new blood? Pretty straightforward question. If you want to talk
about that eighteen nel pen with over Brisbane, Lecqua Hellesima

(01:52:11):
scored with the first touch, How good's that? Lecqua the
Wrecker Savage performed at halftime and at the end unbelievable.
Look like such a great day or great evening, So yes,
there's life there. Marcus securior Pole has knocked Nationale. I

(01:52:32):
wonder if it was because of Willis's record high borrowing
amount of one hundred and thirty eight billion in twenty twenty
four and twenty thirty five and a huge one hundred
and ninety four million. Where's all that money gone? When
Willis told us she was going to make savings, Labour
borrowed a poultry one thirteen billion and twenty twenty when
the Batlan Covid national is bankrupting us, James, it's Marcus.

(01:52:52):
Good evening. Oh Marcus, it's our Yeah, it's our Yeah.
And were you there?

Speaker 28 (01:52:58):
Was there tonight?

Speaker 31 (01:52:59):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (01:53:00):
Where's home? Okay, so you're in Aucklander. Hey, it looked
just what I could see. The crowd were right into it,
doing the little spooky hand gestures, all in warrior's gear.
It looked like it looked like a step up of fandom.
Is that right? Oh?

Speaker 28 (01:53:16):
Well, you know Warriors fans loved their merch and the
at the ground when they do things like the Pukana
cam and give away money for the best sign ever
runs into it.

Speaker 3 (01:53:26):
And the halftime was it expected. That was good too,
with Savage.

Speaker 28 (01:53:30):
And No Idea. Sav were just coming and there was
a light show and Savage's best hits. It was awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:53:37):
Well, the roosters look wrestled.

Speaker 28 (01:53:40):
I mean the Voorden DC, hoping he was going to
do what Cooper Crunk did for the years ago. I
don't think it's going.

Speaker 34 (01:53:46):
To be the case.

Speaker 28 (01:53:47):
But they're just lacking, not ready for the season or something.

Speaker 3 (01:53:51):
But he looked wrestled into disco, looked wrestled.

Speaker 21 (01:53:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 28 (01:53:54):
Oh, Teddy's always up there. But we we were just
ready for it. And ah, some of our older heads
like Cakeewell, he had a great game.

Speaker 3 (01:54:04):
It's good to see him there. And even who's that block?
Who's that blonde guy that the kick team looked good too?

Speaker 2 (01:54:10):
Oh?

Speaker 28 (01:54:10):
Ten of boy about seven? Yeah, yeah, he You know,
he's always a bit so so are the Titans. But
I think he's really found a place hand out. He
should be kicking. He shouldn't be kicking. No, Pompy should
be our goal kicker though.

Speaker 3 (01:54:31):
I like Pompey always looks happy happy. Ye's serious. So
no changes or business as usual. They're nothing new, and
eric'son all the same.

Speaker 28 (01:54:41):
At one end of the ground, they've got a bit
of a pavilion.

Speaker 3 (01:54:44):
Now what's that for.

Speaker 28 (01:54:46):
It used to be just like one bar at ground level.
Now they've got a pavilion a second level that's outrageous.

Speaker 3 (01:54:55):
Wow, And what do you do there? You drink and
buy more merch?

Speaker 6 (01:54:58):
Do you?

Speaker 28 (01:54:59):
I think?

Speaker 2 (01:55:00):
So?

Speaker 3 (01:55:02):
What percentage of people would be wearing the merch?

Speaker 23 (01:55:05):
Ah?

Speaker 3 (01:55:06):
Probably as because I'm an Auckland at the moment I
came to the radio station, even at the radio station
was ring merch, which I thought was a little bit
try hard. But it seems like it's everywhere a no.

Speaker 28 (01:55:19):
On game day you've got to wear Emerge really, even.

Speaker 3 (01:55:21):
If when you go to work you wear it.

Speaker 28 (01:55:23):
Even if you're not going to the game, you wear Emerge.

Speaker 3 (01:55:26):
Really. Yeah, I just don't like blue and green and
red together. That's my problem with it.

Speaker 28 (01:55:32):
Oh, a bit of a clash.

Speaker 3 (01:55:34):
Well, I don't think that. I wish they'd just started
with a bit of color palette. I like the I
like Cranella's colors. Oh yeah, anyway, is it the year?

Speaker 2 (01:55:46):
It's out?

Speaker 28 (01:55:47):
Yeah? Are you ready for another Friday free for all?
Did you see my email about the Hills hoist?

Speaker 32 (01:55:54):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:55:55):
Yes, yes, I did see that. Yeah, I did see that.

Speaker 28 (01:55:58):
Yes, Yeah, you're just saying where are they? And yep,
so Burtdaler is where one is? The crank doesn't work anymore.
But I'm still on it.

Speaker 3 (01:56:07):
Yeah, that's a correct one. But some of them were
attached to the tap. It was hydraulic, have you fo.

Speaker 28 (01:56:15):
Yeah, it's not attached to the tap.

Speaker 3 (01:56:18):
No, that's what you want. You want one attached to
the tap.

Speaker 20 (01:56:22):
That's no, that's the next level for me.

Speaker 3 (01:56:24):
So do you think the Warriors will win the season?
Someone will get injured next week. That's what normally happens.
Everyone will buy their season ticket and someone will get injured.

Speaker 28 (01:56:37):
Look what the storm did last night.

Speaker 2 (01:56:39):
You're like, I'm not going to.

Speaker 28 (01:56:41):
Say the Warriors is going to win the head of
the Storm, but you know it's hard not to feel
good about Finals footy and once you make Finals forty,
you're in with the chart.

Speaker 3 (01:56:49):
Anything happened, Nice to talk to you. Thank you. Pen
with over Brisbane eighteen zero at sixteen past eleven, looking
forward to Europe, put us the Friday free for all
and politics as well. The analysis I'm looking at in
the New Zealand Herald. Here's a headline for you inside
the Day, the question of luxet. Inside the Day, the

(01:57:12):
question of Luckson's exit moved from if and closer to when.
That's what the commentariat are saying. Oh, surely I could
log into Herald relo flip and work here seventeen past eleven,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine nine ten text.

(01:57:34):
I tee what the article says? I look at it
on my phone. Are but yes, be in touch if
you want to be big. Day in politics, National's disastrous
performance in the Taxpayers Union Curier Pole today shifted the
needle on the lug of primest crysto relux and premature
departure from an if question to something closer to a
when and how. That doesn't mean leadership change will happen,

(01:57:57):
just that it feels far more likely now than it
did at the beginning of this week. Next the MP's
went to ground on Friday after much chattering up the
pollen Thursday night. While a bloody cur and original of
challenges the incumbent seems unlikely. The MP's usually hosed down
on helpful leadership speculation. We're suspiciously silent today. This isn't
like twenty twenty. The National Party of Caucus of today

(01:58:18):
still feels the scars of cycling through three leads with months.
Most of the MP's place the highest ability premium stability
than those who rolled bridges, kicking off a volatile period
of the party On it goes twenty one past eleven.
Hello David's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 18 (01:58:34):
Yeah, good evening, Marcus. I think cam before I get
onto Luxon. Penrith for mine are going to be hard
to beat the season again. I know it's a rerun
tonight of Penrith Brisbane Broncos and Penwrith are looking good.
I think they're going to make it number five out
of six.

Speaker 2 (01:58:53):
So there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:58:56):
Are you watching it?

Speaker 18 (01:58:57):
I wish No, I don't have the sky.

Speaker 4 (01:58:59):
I've got rid of it.

Speaker 3 (01:59:00):
Will you get it for the season because it looks
like okay, fair.

Speaker 18 (01:59:03):
Enough, No, I've got Rob've lost heart? Was guy they
annoyed me two onths too often and try charge me
one hundred dollars to get the said luxelant. Now I
am I voted national and have gone off the labor
But look here, well Luxon is a stumbling, spineless dufer
or he seems to come across that way. He is,

(01:59:25):
I believe, the glue that binds this coalition and as
someone that we need in this MMP situation. Unfortunately that's
for mine.

Speaker 3 (01:59:37):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (01:59:39):
Well, yeah, that's the way I see it.

Speaker 18 (01:59:42):
Otherwise there could be fractioniss between you know.

Speaker 3 (01:59:46):
When you're saying because he did the deal with Winston
and with Seymour Long that anyone else is not going
to get the respect and that corlation deal will fall apart,
that we mischief making before the election.

Speaker 18 (01:59:57):
Yes, something along those lines. As I say, it's not
can't be easy dealing with INSI first and act and
keeping them toge together. And that's the first thing in
a coalition. An m MP, I think, is a little
bit of given a little bit of take.

Speaker 3 (02:00:13):
Well, he probably promised them too much. That's half a problem.

Speaker 18 (02:00:17):
Yes, yes, he does seem to be a yes man.
And they call him the Wave, of course, you know,
but I believe that at the end of the I
would not go back labor for.

Speaker 13 (02:00:29):
The tea in China. I think that. Well, I've got
long memory, don't we all?

Speaker 3 (02:00:35):
And what do you mean they call what do you
mean they call him the wave?

Speaker 18 (02:00:39):
Well, apparently it's as he's going by his workers or
people under him, just get a wave from him and
he walks on. That's coming from someone else, a contributor
John who says he calls him the wave.

Speaker 31 (02:00:55):
And I sort of picked up.

Speaker 18 (02:00:57):
I can understand that because he is very stand offish
to the point of being socially or the word he
doesn't sort of mix and he doesn't fit in socially uncomfortable.
It is a word there that I'm missing, But you

(02:01:17):
get much risk.

Speaker 9 (02:01:20):
Awkward.

Speaker 3 (02:01:23):
Yeah, it's you say awkward. But I think Jenna Lynch
and her article today, she was even more blunt about that.
And and I'll just read what she said because it
was quite interesting. Okay, I just got to pull up
the article. Mhmm, blah blah. I'll just see if I

(02:01:48):
can find it. I thought it was quite perceptive what
she said. He's known to he is known to shirk
advice from staff and even political vectorian seeming to help
him out. So sure he is of his own direction
and management style, so he doesn't seem to be listening
to the others.

Speaker 18 (02:02:08):
Well, I mean, as he wants to make it all
about him, then he's certainly not going to work. And
I don't know who else in National Party. I'm saying,
who else can we put in there, because yeah, I
don't see it myself, and saying that labor and Chippy
is in the same boat. I don't want Chippy Beck
at all. He reminds me too much of used to

(02:02:32):
year and the great sixty billion dollar giveaway that was
a labor and.

Speaker 3 (02:02:41):
How much of national spinds at three hundred billion? Yeah,
just cutting out date Paul at to Marcus.

Speaker 25 (02:02:48):
Good evening, Yeah, good evening. I'm just going to go
through different points. I totally agree with the man a
few calls back who was a migrant man business, you know,
and commentated on just mopping up stuff. Totally disagree with

(02:03:09):
the five or one lady, but leave that apart. I
think Luxton is doing a good job under the circumstances.
So I hope he comes back in to power.

Speaker 3 (02:03:23):
But do you think if you want a second term,
do you think someone else is more likely to get
a second term if he's lost the room?

Speaker 4 (02:03:29):
No, not really.

Speaker 25 (02:03:31):
I think he's got the room, and I think.

Speaker 3 (02:03:34):
The polls today showed that he won't get back in.

Speaker 25 (02:03:37):
Yes, I know, but the polls. We have so many
polls in this country, and polls can be wrong. I'll
give you three examples. They said labor in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (02:03:49):
They said why they did?

Speaker 25 (02:03:51):
They said labor wouldn't get in in New Zealand a few.

Speaker 3 (02:03:56):
Oh, that wasn't do with the polls. The polls were
representative of how many people voted. Labor got in because
Winston Peters decided to go with a party that had
got less votes than National. That was that was nothing
to do with the polls.

Speaker 25 (02:04:08):
Okay, well the polls did say that.

Speaker 3 (02:04:11):
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, okay. I just don't think it's helpful,
just just anyway to ignore the polls. Raphael as Marcus
good evening.

Speaker 33 (02:04:23):
Yeah, good a Marcus. How are you.

Speaker 3 (02:04:25):
Good things for Rafael?

Speaker 33 (02:04:27):
It's good. I just wanted to talk about Laxom and
the poll I think if you look at the previous elections,
you haven't had a national party elected to government with
such low party vote percentages since nineteen ninety six. And
so when that I thing was the Herald said, you know,

(02:04:50):
it's the lowest since nineteen ninety nine that the national
parties had in a poll or something like that. I
can't remember the number they said nineteen ninety nine. It's like, well, okay,
that was when our primary vote, our party vote was
really re low. And I think what people need to
remember is the election this year or later in November

(02:05:15):
is going to be incredibly focused on the economy because
no matter what these poles are saying, what matters on
election day is people will look back and say, am
I better than in twenty twenty three? In October twen
twenty three and I think people hopefully by November say

(02:05:36):
yes I am. But it's all a matter of how
fast the economy grows and how fast people feel that,
because the numbers can say whatever, but if people don't
feel that, it doesn't matter, doesn't mean anything.

Speaker 3 (02:05:51):
Sure, And I think probably the situation in Iran with
petrol going up is probably yes, and negatively the likelihood
that there is going to be a turnaround.

Speaker 33 (02:06:03):
I think eventually. I think one thing things is it
just takes time for that money in the rural areas
to work its way through for Auckland and stuff. And
I think the other thing people talk about is elections
are one in West Aalkland. If you win Westalkland, you
win Auckland and then you win the country. And I

(02:06:25):
don't think people in West Auckland are in a position
at the moment where they think I've forgiven labor for
the six years of completenessmanagement and we're just working our
way through the economy, fixing the books, because if we
cut spending completely, you just have a huge recession. You

(02:06:45):
want to see about doing it.

Speaker 3 (02:06:46):
Do you think they're stick with Luck and you think
they should change?

Speaker 33 (02:06:49):
I think stick with them completely. I think it would
be silly to change now.

Speaker 4 (02:06:55):
It would look like.

Speaker 33 (02:06:56):
We're saying it's just been a complete failure the last
two years.

Speaker 3 (02:07:00):
And how will you feel if they're voted out in November?

Speaker 33 (02:07:04):
I would be very disappointed and like some while publicly
there may be different perceptions ministers, actually a lot of
them really enjoy working under him because he gives them
a bit more freedom than perhaps other leaders have given them.
I know Judas Colins really enjoys working under Luck and

(02:07:28):
far more than say Key, And I.

Speaker 3 (02:07:30):
Think that's how do you How do you know that?

Speaker 33 (02:07:34):
Because she said it were at that press conference she said.

Speaker 3 (02:07:37):
That something she said publicly.

Speaker 6 (02:07:39):
Sure As she.

Speaker 33 (02:07:42):
Said that she enjoys working under him far more. Thank
you just give them.

Speaker 3 (02:07:48):
It's politics, you'd say that sort of stuff.

Speaker 33 (02:07:51):
That is, But I think it's just I don't think
Caucus is going to be in a position where they're like,
he's got to go. I don't think that's we're not
near that point yet. I don't think that would happen.

Speaker 3 (02:08:05):
It's not what the commentators are saying.

Speaker 33 (02:08:07):
Well, the media they like to talk about. They said
that last year in January. We're in the summer.

Speaker 3 (02:08:12):
That was advance and the silent cud that was a
little bit different. But you on Monday, I'll tell Raphael,
but thank you twenty nine to twelve. If you want
to talk eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Marcus till
midnight nine two nine to the text you want to
come through and if you were at ericson tonight, go media,
one media, Go media. Marcus. It's Rees who overlooked one

(02:08:36):
of Christopher Luxon's best achievements at the National Party and
the Collision are united with a very little sign of infighting.
Also weeks of long time politics. It's way too far
from the election for the poll to equery predict the outcome.
Focusing on the amount spin is irrelevant. What counts as
the outcomes delivered. Hi, Josh, it's Marcus. Good evening. Yeah,
Hey he's going good, thank you, Josh.

Speaker 2 (02:09:00):
Yes, game the cracker of game. Seen some politives there,
Judas Colins walking into the loude Yes, she's all sold
up with her purse.

Speaker 3 (02:09:13):
Was she in a Warrior's jersey?

Speaker 21 (02:09:15):
Na?

Speaker 3 (02:09:16):
She wasn't disappointing?

Speaker 2 (02:09:20):
Yeah, yeah, But talking about merch earlier, I actually clicked
the jerseys and it's amazing that the value of some
of these. The other day one sold for eight thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (02:09:34):
On trademing a Warriors one.

Speaker 2 (02:09:37):
Yeah, and there was not a match worn. It was
just a replica.

Speaker 3 (02:09:44):
What why was it so valuable.

Speaker 2 (02:09:47):
Because it's called it Mount Albert jersey, which if you
google it, actually Helen Clark will and once and everyone's
trying to bite off her. But there's only forty made,
so they're very rare. She got given one, actually she
was it is it?

Speaker 3 (02:10:05):
Is it blue and yellow? Is it like para eels cut?
Looks good?

Speaker 2 (02:10:11):
Yeah that they go for seven or eight grant and
one of the rarests.

Speaker 3 (02:10:18):
You'd be amazed when I tune up at softball and
then v cargo or and bluff. How how many people
wear the Warriors merch at the bottom of the country.
I mean, it's every you know, it's it would be
the most thing that people wear.

Speaker 2 (02:10:32):
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty populars.

Speaker 3 (02:10:35):
They must make it. They must make a fortune from it.

Speaker 7 (02:10:37):
Do they?

Speaker 2 (02:10:39):
Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, a lotcakese but yeah, it's all
all the rear staff. The older stuff is now but
they're expensive sub with the hard to fight now.

Speaker 3 (02:10:51):
I wish they'd started with better colors.

Speaker 2 (02:10:55):
Well two thousand and one jersey is the nice blue
and I think that's one of the best ones. That's
that's blue and black and two one two the other
and two they're the best. Look Jesus don't usually use
as much now but yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:11:12):
Was that black with blue on the on the on
the shoulders?

Speaker 2 (02:11:17):
Yeah? Okay, yeah, but now it's a tracker of the game.
Just driving back to tarring Us drive to watch the game.

Speaker 11 (02:11:27):
But was with it?

Speaker 3 (02:11:28):
Do they remake the heritage jerseys like they do with
some of the Australian ral teams.

Speaker 2 (02:11:36):
Are yeah, yeah, yeah, sure do.

Speaker 3 (02:11:40):
The heritage Judy every year, Josh, are you with the
same crowd you go back to every year? Are you
sort of sitting with the same mates? Has it been
like that for you? You're in a different spot this year.

Speaker 2 (02:11:51):
I'd seen them take this last year, but this year
I'm sort of jumping around, so so describe whatever if
it's I can in different areas.

Speaker 3 (02:12:01):
So did you see a lot did you? Did you
run in from of old mates there tonight?

Speaker 2 (02:12:06):
I actually did. Yeah, there was someone in four years
from the other from up up north to something that
was random.

Speaker 3 (02:12:13):
Yeah, I was obviously at works. I couldn't watch the game,
but it seemed to be the Warriors seemed to be
the same team, but just playing with more confidence and better.
Is that kind of what you thought? More self belief?

Speaker 16 (02:12:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:12:27):
I think I think you know that they start training
right before Christmas. They come back and go hard and
they've just trained it must be eight weeks or six weeks,
just solid and obviously the harder you go, the better
you're going to perform. And they showed it.

Speaker 7 (02:12:43):
Said it well tonight, brilliant.

Speaker 3 (02:12:46):
Nice to talk, Josh. Thanks for that good evening, Neil.
It's Marcus. Welcome here are you?

Speaker 7 (02:12:51):
Marcus?

Speaker 12 (02:12:53):
Ohy, Neil.

Speaker 7 (02:12:55):
I just thought i'd just give you a ring about poles.
It's something that's always bagged me. What do you think
about poles? Is it something My personal opinion is they're
non productive and I think it's bs to be honest, Why.

Speaker 3 (02:13:14):
Why do you do you want it to know? To
know what I think, yeah, what do you think is
a question? Do you think polls should be banned?

Speaker 7 (02:13:23):
I actually do. To be honest, I think that at
the end of the day, you make your own decision
based on your feelings on how so you going?

Speaker 3 (02:13:33):
So you think they should be banned? So I decided
to actually get a polling company to find out who
supports what I should be prevented from doing that?

Speaker 7 (02:13:43):
Well, I don't. Well, not necessarily banned, but I don't.
You can ask any question you like to get an
answer that you want, and it's not representative of the
whole country, is it it is? Well, no, it's the
text players or the one that's just come out that's

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not representative of anyone. You ever been phoned? Why not
from me?

Speaker 3 (02:14:08):
I have?

Speaker 16 (02:14:09):
So?

Speaker 3 (02:14:09):
Why is it?

Speaker 27 (02:14:10):
I've Why is it?

Speaker 3 (02:14:11):
Why is it not representative? Because is it not because
you have been phoned because it's a crazy thing.

Speaker 7 (02:14:18):
No, No, it's because it's right through the country, isn't it.
You know, you've got to you make your own decision
on at the end of the when it comes to
the election, you make your own decision based on what
you believe, not why should you be worried about what
everybody else thinks.

Speaker 3 (02:14:39):
Just to understand why people say they don't believe the polls,
because then they say they always say to say I
don't believe the polls, How could they be accurate? It's
right around the country. I've never been phoned.

Speaker 7 (02:14:51):
Well, no, it's not not just that, but I mean,
at the end of the day, it's it's you know,
you make your own your independent person, independent thinking. Why
do you need to know why or what everybody else
is thinking. You can make your own decision, can't you.

Speaker 3 (02:15:06):
Will the political parties themselves do their own polling. Should
they be able to do their own polling.

Speaker 7 (02:15:11):
Well, they can do their own polling and if they
need to change things or they need to, but the
people make the decision at the end of the year,
at the at the election. That's my it's my opinion.

Speaker 3 (02:15:23):
A lot of people agree with you, but I think
it's yeah, I think it's naive.

Speaker 7 (02:15:28):
I think it's a non productive and they're you know,
they obviously charge a lot of money and it's become
a big industry polling, and.

Speaker 3 (02:15:35):
They can only charge a lot of money because what
they what they provide is information that is our value.
If it was a nonsense, No one would pay for it.
So I think statistically it's correct. I mean, it's it's robust,
and they do the right numbers to give an accurate
portrayal within certain parameters.

Speaker 7 (02:15:56):
So yeah, I guess it's you know, are you.

Speaker 3 (02:16:02):
Are you unhappy with what this poll has come up with?
Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 7 (02:16:06):
No, I'm not. I mean I haven't decided. I'm not
at this necessarily a national voter. But I think at
the end of the day, though, Mark is that you've
got to be able to make your own decision without
being influenced by a poll.

Speaker 3 (02:16:22):
But also when it comes to technical voting, right, So
say there's an election coming up, right, and there's your
your party vote. You think you might be voting for
the Opportunity Party. Yeah, and actually they're only on two percent.

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Then that votes a waste, isn't it, Because you're voting
for a team that's for a party that's not going
to get beyond the five percent threshold. So in that
case that information is useful.

Speaker 7 (02:16:52):
Well yeah, but yeah, I guess if you're going to
be voting for that, yeah, I mean, you just at
the end of the day, I just feel that you
just don't need to be influenced by polls to be
able to make your own decision. You know, you can.
You can work out if you want to vote for

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that party, well you vote for that party.

Speaker 3 (02:17:15):
But I'm not influenced by the poles when I go
to vote.

Speaker 7 (02:17:20):
Well, no, I'm not either, but a lot of people are.
They're thinking, oh, they might be thinking, oh National's going
out and there's no point voting for them.

Speaker 3 (02:17:30):
Probably people want to vote for them because they're worried
they're going to lose out. I don't necessarily know that, Yeah,
I don't. Anyway, we'll see what other people. I appreciate
your points, Neil, but thank you. Sixteen to twelve Declan,
it's Marcus, good evening.

Speaker 9 (02:17:45):
Good ay.

Speaker 17 (02:17:47):
Well, I'm just looking at the polling and it's it's
too late to change LUTs and now I think if
the time was to do it, it would have been
three or four months ago.

Speaker 3 (02:17:59):
Well six I'm trying to think my night on talkback
about and I said, this is your chance. He's lost
the room. When was that Dan there? And I think
it was probably anyone. You know, it's too soon to
change it now, but I'm convinced that was the right time.

Speaker 17 (02:18:14):
Yeah, I think if they did it a few months ago,
i'd like to see Erica Stanford then she's real good.
But it's too late now. They need to let Luxon
run out the election and see how it goes.

Speaker 3 (02:18:30):
Even though that means they could have become a one
term group.

Speaker 17 (02:18:34):
Yeah, look, it's still too soon to know. It really
comes down to what the economy does. All the international
news Iran and stuff isn't going to help. But yeah,
I think Luxon is the right person at this point
in time because it's just too late to change it.

Speaker 3 (02:18:58):
Doesn't see it doesn't seem like the right person. Most
people think he's he's a dead man walking.

Speaker 17 (02:19:04):
Yeah, yeah, seen that way. But in internally I think
he's he's good at managing the people. He's just not
that likable, charismatic person that say John Key was back
in the day.

Speaker 3 (02:19:22):
But if you lose the room, you don't get it back.

Speaker 2 (02:19:24):
Though.

Speaker 3 (02:19:24):
Do you have people stop listening to you and think
you're a dead man walking. You don't suddenly turn it
around because you just appear to be more and more
desperate the harder you try.

Speaker 17 (02:19:33):
Yeah, I mean that's true, but we are still talking
about just a couple of seats, so it'll be it'll
be close, but I think he can pull it back
and if Winston Peters will also gain some votes, and
as long as though for the coalition, it doesn't matter.

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If National can't pull back those few votes.

Speaker 3 (02:19:56):
But Winston, Winston will be doing all he can to
undermine him because it's in Winston's interest to get those
people leaving National to go to him. He's, you know what,
on your side and situation like this, it would be
my take. Hi, Michael, it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 10 (02:20:13):
Thank you, Marcus. I'd just like to say I disagree
with you. I think the polls are used to actually
coerce people into voting in a certain way that they
wouldn't normally vote. Now, if they were so good, why
did America ban them? Why did they blacklist them?

Speaker 3 (02:20:34):
And if you remember that I'm not familiar that the
polls are banned in America.

Speaker 10 (02:20:38):
Well they are.

Speaker 3 (02:20:41):
They they've not spot betting.

Speaker 10 (02:20:44):
Well let's take Clinton, she was going to have a
landslide victory over Trump.

Speaker 6 (02:20:50):
Never happened.

Speaker 10 (02:20:51):
And then we take Kamela Harris. She was going to
win and she was going to win Swing States never happened,
and I believe.

Speaker 3 (02:21:00):
In the recent news in elections they've been very accurate.
But I don't want to spend the rest of my
show arguing about that. What I want to know is,
how would you ban them? What's to stop private groups
doing poles if they want to. Surely it's the democracy.
People can do whatever they can if they want to
serve a people. You want to start banging it.

Speaker 10 (02:21:19):
I think you people play a big part the media
in actually subverting people to Actually the media is very
very left. They're very pro labor, they were pro.

Speaker 3 (02:21:33):
Sorry, Michael, I mean clearly that is not true. Clearly
that is not true in these present circumstances. Just read
the papers for goodness sake, look at the ownership structure. Honestly, Yeah,
it's just not true. And it's not only true, it's

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actually pretty much the opposite. It's kind of funny that
people coming through in this pole that I don't like.
They're saying ban the polls, But what they don't like
is what the poles are telling them. It seems to
be denial to me. I mean, I couldn't care if
they're there or not, but good luck bending something It's
like one of Winston's lines, Robert's Marcus. Welcome, Marcus.

Speaker 12 (02:22:16):
I'll keep it brief, and I think it nutshells it.
I think we've reached shaved headed men, you know, That's
what it comes down to, all.

Speaker 6 (02:22:28):
These guys with shaved heads.

Speaker 12 (02:22:32):
Lux And is just another one. And I think we've
reached peak shaved head.

Speaker 3 (02:22:37):
You mean after mother or.

Speaker 12 (02:22:41):
Well the mullet, Well, I mean we haven't had the mullet.

Speaker 3 (02:22:44):
No, you mean I mean mola when you say peak,
who else's head shaved heads?

Speaker 13 (02:22:48):
Well?

Speaker 38 (02:22:49):
And so many, you know, people that are in the media,
in the public eye, politicians, they've all got all the guys.

Speaker 12 (02:23:00):
I'm not talking to women actually, or maybe they had to,
but the men. We just see so many shaved.

Speaker 6 (02:23:06):
Ds, you know.

Speaker 12 (02:23:07):
And maybe we've Luxon is the sacrificial shaved headed lamb
and people have had enough of We've reached peak shaved
headed guys.

Speaker 3 (02:23:19):
Thank you, Clari Marcus welcome.

Speaker 4 (02:23:23):
Oh my goodness, Oh what Marcus. I just wanted to
make a quick contribution towards the poles. They were invented.
They were invented for a particular reason in the first place,
and way back when they were invented, they were implied

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they were a source of information for everybody. Now, as
far as poles go, they don't have any influence whatso weather.
So that guy who said that it does influence people,
it doesn't, because every time you had an election, of course,
there are poles, and the actual schedule point systems is

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a pole. You're looking at a pole. You don't know
where you are in the race unless you look at
the pole. If the pole's going up, that's good. If
it's going down, you're in trouble. But that doesn't mean
to say that on election day people have been influenced
by a pole. That is absolute nonsense. And as far

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as the poles being canceled or white in America, that
is false information.

Speaker 3 (02:24:37):
Been a fair bit of it tonight. And yeah, thank you, Claire.
I appreciate you coming. That's it for me. I shall return,
enjoy your weekend. People might see you on Surf to City.
It's in Vera Cargill's bigouting, not around the bays, not
city to surf, but surf to city. I think it'd

(02:24:58):
be better if it was city to surf and you
end up with a swim at Audity Beach. But it's
quite nice starting out there on the beach you can
drive on. But anyway, that's Sunday, so I might see
you there. But yeah, what a great win for the Warriors.
That's the news we have all got to be happy about.
Jim Snedden will be next and if you need to

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