January 22, 2026 • 13 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said, b
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Used Talk said, be you.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Talk said, Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the
being for Friday, first of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart,
and we are looking back at Thursday. I'd like to
start by apologizing for my very wide voice this morning.
I've got a minor ailment of some kind, but we'll
push through. So, yes, the election date announced the other day,
(00:45):
it doesn't mean anything. Why doesn't labor stand more on
its economic policy when whether it's history of having a
good economic policy when it looks like they actually might
perform quite well in the past. I think to Rocker
was going to stare things up in that direction. Somebody
(01:06):
was very impressed. In fact, a few people were very
breath of Mark Karney the Canadian Perium at Davos. They've
got ancient history now and then we'll do a robot
apocalypse update for you. But before any of that, jeez,
amount what happened there?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
The mood at the moment, Michelle, after what has happened
this morning, how are you feeling? How are others that
you've spoken to dealing with us today.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Everyone's really devastated. MOO is a really big part of
our life and to think that some of it has
fallen away and hurt people is really devastating.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Where were you when the slip happened?
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Were you at the cafe? Because I've heard it was
just a horrific, horrific noise.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yes, I was in the cafe and it's quite a noisy,
busy little cafe, so I didn't hear anything. But obviously
the response from the emergency services was fairly immediate, and yes,
that's how we're all notified.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
So did you say what you were? Twenty or thirty
meters away from the slip?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Are you were you ever in any danger?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
No? No, Unfortunately, the the there's more than one slip.
Many of my customers came and told me about the
various slips on the mount overnight, and this particular slip
seems it's enormous. It's really sorry, it's really quite devastating.
(02:38):
The impact on everybody is going to be huge, in
the hot pools and the poor people who were camping
behind the hot pools.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So that's Michelle from the Beach Out Cafe which is
literally just meters away from where all this devastation took place.
For some reason, it's so much weird when you're really
familiar with the site of these sorts of things. I've
been to that cafe heaps of times, spend a lot
(03:11):
of time around that area, being to the hot falls
a lot of times, and it's just so weird.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
News talk ze been right.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
So the election date we got, that is the timing
making it difference or not? Really?
Speaker 7 (03:31):
So we even think about giving Labor another chance in
office so soon after the last time. People need to
see the difference, They need to feel the difference, they
need to trust the difference, and off. Chris Hapkins thinks,
more of the you know, trust us, we know best
approach that Labour came to be known for. Then you
must well throw in the towel. Now, let me give
(03:53):
you a a similarity or an example. You know, you're
running a cafe, right, but the customers they're running off
in droves because they don't like the way that you
and your staff treat them when they come in for
lunch or a coffee. You know, you're a bunch of grumps.
It's a terrible vibe. People feel like they're being ripped off.
So they give you the flick, and so you realize
(04:15):
what's happening, and you go on to your Facebook page
and you say, hey, guys, hey guys, I'm hearing that
some of you haven't been that impressed with us. Hey,
we'll have had a word to the team. We're different now,
we've changed our way. Hey, come on, come on back
to us, give us another chance. Would you bindto that?
Of course you wouldn't. And I'm picking that voters will
(04:37):
be exactly the same with Labor, which is why I
think Chrisipiens I think he is in lala Land if
he really thinks Labor can form the next government with
more than forty percent of the party vote, I'll tell
you what I think. I don't live in Auckland. If
you do, you tell me. But I also think he's
pushing it uphill, thinking Labour can win Auckland back.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Quite like John McDonald's style. He's been very critical of
Labor obviously this week, but he's also been very critical
of National and Luxib as well. I'm not quite sure
who he is a fan of. Maybe he's not a
fan of anyone's talk side anyway, I think he's got
a sort of an ally in tim Roxborough, and that
(05:18):
he seems to think Chris have coinsistead of pushing the
wrong message.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
There's seventy odd years of research in New Zealand, Australia,
the UK, the US that shows that economies do better
under left leaning governments. And you can see why that
annoys people when I say it, But it is a
statistical reality that the economies of New Zealand, the US,
the UK and Australia have done better under left leaning governments. Now,
(05:45):
the thing that always intrigues me about this is that
left leaning governments hardly ever say this. They don't say
it now they must be aware of it. But even
people who are labor voters often think that national is
better for the economy. But you know, maybe labor is
better at looking after people, and certainly national voters. And
(06:11):
this is the same in the States with Republicans. You know,
a belief that the Republicans are better with the economy,
and maybe some swing voters think, okay, well, the Democrats
better at looking after people, but Republicans better with the economy,
even though the data shows it's honestly, it is the
opposite but why given that that is the case, and
(06:31):
I know that numbers can be contestable, but this has
been researched and researched and research. Why given that's the case,
do you never ever hear left leaning governments mention it.
It's quite strange.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Lefties don't really like to talk about money that I
think that's what it comes down to. It makes them uncomfortable,
makes them feel a capitalist. I don't really think that's
their vibe. Right, So, Davos, it seems to still be happening.
Zelensky seem to be the star of the show today.
(07:03):
It was the Trump Show yesterday. Boy boy, was it
but the day and it seems such a long time
ago now. Mark Canney of Canada, he spoke man Andrew
Dickins is a real fanboy, Mark Carney fanboy.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
He made a call for countries like Canada and Australia
and South Korea and others to build strategic autonomy and
collaborate to stabilize the global system. Don't worry about the
big guys, the middle guys need to talk together. He
argued that middle powers could no longer rely on great
powers to maintain order. In fact, they appear hell bent
on sewing disorder. Canne frame the moment is a pivot point.
(07:41):
Either middle powers coordinate to build a more resilient, cooperative system,
or the world slides deeper into fragmentation. And then he
said some words that completely freaked out the conspiracy class.
He said, the old eraror is gone, and it's time
to build a new world order. But his new world
order is not built on power and subjugation and pedophiles
and whatever. His new world order is based on cooperation
(08:04):
amongst the middle nations. He named the rupture, he explained
and its causes, and argued that the future will be
shaped not by superpowers alone, but by the coalitions of capable,
mid sized nations. I thought it was brilliant. You know,
Trump's speaks for seventy two minutes was not brilliant. Cannie
is the smart guy who might just win at the
end of the movie. Now we're not a middle power,
(08:26):
We're not even a small power anymore. The world order
has changed, and the way New Zealand used a virtual
signal no longer carries any weight. It's time to find
our friends and maximize our relationships with them. Because the
elephants are dancing and US mice need to find a
safe place so we don't get qush.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah. I think the best way to avoid an elephant
is to stay a long, long, long, long long way
away from it. We don't have elephants, we don't have snakes.
You know what I mean, get your head down in
z News talk zed Bean right, Robot Apocalypse Update time.
(09:08):
I mean, it might be what Ryan's talking about.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
I don't know if you don't know him. Jamie Diamond
is the boss of JP Morgan and quite a smart guy,
which obviously you need to be to run a bank. Well,
one would assume you need to be quite smart to
run a bank. I've mentioned him a few times on
this show because he just says some reasonable and practical
things about some big issues. And he's spoken about AI
he reckons, we need to slow it down, calm the
(09:31):
farm a little bit, and if we don't slow down,
society he reckons could tear itself apart. And he's not
talking about in ten years. He's talking about soon. And
he gives an example. In the US there are two
million truck drivers who could soon be out of a
job when driverless trucks hit the road. That's two million
men and women going from a pay packet of up
(09:52):
to one hundred and fifty thousand American dollars a year,
too unemployed, the skills not transferable. His answer, slow it down,
phase the technology in rather than hit society all at once,
and then you'll probably have to get some government payouts
to compensate them. Otherwise, he says, you will get civil unrest,
(10:12):
you'll get chaos in the streets. In New Zealand, we
have ubers, we have taxis. Right for a robo takeover.
Same goes for public transport. Robots will probably drive buses
before long, which will certainly stop the violence, unfortunately that
they face, especially in Auckland and the driver's seat from
nutty passengers, but it does leave them out of work
(10:33):
without a meaningful alternative or transferable skills. Driverless way mo
taxis in the US are taking off, and the serious
crash rate is about ninety percent better than we're humans.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I know.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Go figure. The problem with phasing things in slowly, though
pumping the brakes is that you miss out on the
productivity gains. And just because you pump the brakes, it
doesn't mean that your competitors will it doesn't mean that
other countries will do the same, and nobody's going to
get in the way of progress, are they, Which leaves
us with the social problem that Jamie Diamond was getting
(11:11):
it in the first place. How do we make sure
the will doesn't go to hell in a handbasket when
the robots come from our jobs and our livelihood.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
It was one of the things that made me not
laugh but smile Riley to myself. I mean, Trump's had
a lot of stuff yesterday. He said things like the
reason that the unemployment numbers aren't better than they should
(11:40):
be in the States is because he's fired so many
people from public service jobs, so that was a good thing.
The reason that they've got negative migration at the moment
is because he's deported so many people, and so that
(12:01):
was a good thing as well. And then the other
thing that he talked at length about AI. I'm not
sure if this was yesterday or the day before. I
think it was yesterday, and AI and robots, and he
was looking forward to the robot apocalypse basically because we
(12:24):
don't have the workers to fill all the jobs for
all this great business that's ramping up in the US
thanks to us terrists, blah blah blah. And of course
he didn't see the irony there that the reason that
there's so many job vacancys is because, you know, a
lot of those people who do those sort of robots
(12:46):
can do it kind of jobs pay from outside of
the United States to do those jobs. He's put a.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Stop to the hate.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I'm sure that's positive as well. Yeah, big week for Trump.
I am Glen Hart. I'm going to see if I
can get this voice working properly out of the weekend. Unfortunately,
I will be here on Monday, although it's a holiday
here in Auckland. You don't want to hear you complained
about that every year like I do every year. Just
(13:15):
take it as well and we'll see it then. Used
Talking Talkings it Bean.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
For more from News Talk set b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said, b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Talk said, Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the
being for Friday, first of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart,
and we are looking back at Thursday. I'd like to
start by apologizing for my very wide voice this morning.
I've got a minor ailment of some kind, but we'll
push through. So, yes, the election date announced the other day,
(00:45):
it doesn't mean anything. Why doesn't labor stand more on
its economic policy when whether it's history of having a
good economic policy when it looks like they actually might
perform quite well in the past. I think to Rocker
was going to stare things up in that direction. Somebody
(01:06):
was very impressed. In fact, a few people were very
breath of Mark Karney the Canadian Perium at Davos. They've
got ancient history now and then we'll do a robot
apocalypse update for you. But before any of that, jeez,
amount what happened there?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
The mood at the moment, Michelle, after what has happened
this morning, how are you feeling? How are others that
you've spoken to dealing with us today.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Everyone's really devastated. MOO is a really big part of
our life and to think that some of it has
fallen away and hurt people is really devastating.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Where were you when the slip happened?
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Were you at the cafe? Because I've heard it was
just a horrific, horrific noise.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yes, I was in the cafe and it's quite a noisy,
busy little cafe, so I didn't hear anything. But obviously
the response from the emergency services was fairly immediate, and yes,
that's how we're all notified.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
So did you say what you were? Twenty or thirty
meters away from the slip?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Are you were you ever in any danger?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
No? No, Unfortunately, the the there's more than one slip.
Many of my customers came and told me about the
various slips on the mount overnight, and this particular slip
seems it's enormous. It's really sorry, it's really quite devastating.
(02:38):
The impact on everybody is going to be huge, in
the hot pools and the poor people who were camping
behind the hot pools.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So that's Michelle from the Beach Out Cafe which is
literally just meters away from where all this devastation took place.
For some reason, it's so much weird when you're really
familiar with the site of these sorts of things. I've
been to that cafe heaps of times, spend a lot
(03:11):
of time around that area, being to the hot falls
a lot of times, and it's just so weird.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
News talk ze been right.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
So the election date we got, that is the timing
making it difference or not? Really?
Speaker 7 (03:31):
So we even think about giving Labor another chance in
office so soon after the last time. People need to
see the difference, They need to feel the difference, they
need to trust the difference, and off. Chris Hapkins thinks,
more of the you know, trust us, we know best
approach that Labour came to be known for. Then you
must well throw in the towel. Now, let me give
(03:53):
you a a similarity or an example. You know, you're
running a cafe, right, but the customers they're running off
in droves because they don't like the way that you
and your staff treat them when they come in for
lunch or a coffee. You know, you're a bunch of grumps.
It's a terrible vibe. People feel like they're being ripped off.
So they give you the flick, and so you realize
(04:15):
what's happening, and you go on to your Facebook page
and you say, hey, guys, hey guys, I'm hearing that
some of you haven't been that impressed with us. Hey,
we'll have had a word to the team. We're different now,
we've changed our way. Hey, come on, come on back
to us, give us another chance. Would you bindto that?
Of course you wouldn't. And I'm picking that voters will
(04:37):
be exactly the same with Labor, which is why I
think Chrisipiens I think he is in lala Land if
he really thinks Labor can form the next government with
more than forty percent of the party vote, I'll tell
you what I think. I don't live in Auckland. If
you do, you tell me. But I also think he's
pushing it uphill, thinking Labour can win Auckland back.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Quite like John McDonald's style. He's been very critical of
Labor obviously this week, but he's also been very critical
of National and Luxib as well. I'm not quite sure
who he is a fan of. Maybe he's not a
fan of anyone's talk side anyway, I think he's got
a sort of an ally in tim Roxborough, and that
(05:18):
he seems to think Chris have coinsistead of pushing the
wrong message.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
There's seventy odd years of research in New Zealand, Australia,
the UK, the US that shows that economies do better
under left leaning governments. And you can see why that
annoys people when I say it, But it is a
statistical reality that the economies of New Zealand, the US,
the UK and Australia have done better under left leaning governments. Now,
(05:45):
the thing that always intrigues me about this is that
left leaning governments hardly ever say this. They don't say
it now they must be aware of it. But even
people who are labor voters often think that national is
better for the economy. But you know, maybe labor is
better at looking after people, and certainly national voters. And
(06:11):
this is the same in the States with Republicans. You know,
a belief that the Republicans are better with the economy,
and maybe some swing voters think, okay, well, the Democrats
better at looking after people, but Republicans better with the economy,
even though the data shows it's honestly, it is the
opposite but why given that that is the case, and
(06:31):
I know that numbers can be contestable, but this has
been researched and researched and research. Why given that's the case,
do you never ever hear left leaning governments mention it.
It's quite strange.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Lefties don't really like to talk about money that I
think that's what it comes down to. It makes them uncomfortable,
makes them feel a capitalist. I don't really think that's
their vibe. Right, So, Davos, it seems to still be happening.
Zelensky seem to be the star of the show today.
(07:03):
It was the Trump Show yesterday. Boy boy, was it
but the day and it seems such a long time
ago now. Mark Canney of Canada, he spoke man Andrew
Dickins is a real fanboy, Mark Carney fanboy.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
He made a call for countries like Canada and Australia
and South Korea and others to build strategic autonomy and
collaborate to stabilize the global system. Don't worry about the
big guys, the middle guys need to talk together. He
argued that middle powers could no longer rely on great
powers to maintain order. In fact, they appear hell bent
on sewing disorder. Canne frame the moment is a pivot point.
(07:41):
Either middle powers coordinate to build a more resilient, cooperative system,
or the world slides deeper into fragmentation. And then he
said some words that completely freaked out the conspiracy class.
He said, the old eraror is gone, and it's time
to build a new world order. But his new world
order is not built on power and subjugation and pedophiles
and whatever. His new world order is based on cooperation
(08:04):
amongst the middle nations. He named the rupture, he explained
and its causes, and argued that the future will be
shaped not by superpowers alone, but by the coalitions of capable,
mid sized nations. I thought it was brilliant. You know,
Trump's speaks for seventy two minutes was not brilliant. Cannie
is the smart guy who might just win at the
end of the movie. Now we're not a middle power,
(08:26):
We're not even a small power anymore. The world order
has changed, and the way New Zealand used a virtual
signal no longer carries any weight. It's time to find
our friends and maximize our relationships with them. Because the
elephants are dancing and US mice need to find a
safe place so we don't get qush.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Yeah. I think the best way to avoid an elephant
is to stay a long, long, long, long long way
away from it. We don't have elephants, we don't have snakes.
You know what I mean, get your head down in
z News talk zed Bean right, Robot Apocalypse Update time.
(09:08):
I mean, it might be what Ryan's talking about.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
I don't know if you don't know him. Jamie Diamond
is the boss of JP Morgan and quite a smart guy,
which obviously you need to be to run a bank. Well,
one would assume you need to be quite smart to
run a bank. I've mentioned him a few times on
this show because he just says some reasonable and practical
things about some big issues. And he's spoken about AI
he reckons, we need to slow it down, calm the
(09:31):
farm a little bit, and if we don't slow down,
society he reckons could tear itself apart. And he's not
talking about in ten years. He's talking about soon. And
he gives an example. In the US there are two
million truck drivers who could soon be out of a
job when driverless trucks hit the road. That's two million
men and women going from a pay packet of up
(09:52):
to one hundred and fifty thousand American dollars a year,
too unemployed, the skills not transferable. His answer, slow it down,
phase the technology in rather than hit society all at once,
and then you'll probably have to get some government payouts
to compensate them. Otherwise, he says, you will get civil unrest,
(10:12):
you'll get chaos in the streets. In New Zealand, we
have ubers, we have taxis. Right for a robo takeover.
Same goes for public transport. Robots will probably drive buses
before long, which will certainly stop the violence, unfortunately that
they face, especially in Auckland and the driver's seat from
nutty passengers, but it does leave them out of work
(10:33):
without a meaningful alternative or transferable skills. Driverless way mo
taxis in the US are taking off, and the serious
crash rate is about ninety percent better than we're humans.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I know.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Go figure. The problem with phasing things in slowly, though
pumping the brakes is that you miss out on the
productivity gains. And just because you pump the brakes, it
doesn't mean that your competitors will it doesn't mean that
other countries will do the same, and nobody's going to
get in the way of progress, are they, Which leaves
us with the social problem that Jamie Diamond was getting
(11:11):
it in the first place. How do we make sure
the will doesn't go to hell in a handbasket when
the robots come from our jobs and our livelihood.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
It was one of the things that made me not
laugh but smile Riley to myself. I mean, Trump's had
a lot of stuff yesterday. He said things like the
reason that the unemployment numbers aren't better than they should
(11:40):
be in the States is because he's fired so many
people from public service jobs, so that was a good thing.
The reason that they've got negative migration at the moment
is because he's deported so many people, and so that
(12:01):
was a good thing as well. And then the other
thing that he talked at length about AI. I'm not
sure if this was yesterday or the day before. I
think it was yesterday, and AI and robots, and he
was looking forward to the robot apocalypse basically because we
(12:24):
don't have the workers to fill all the jobs for
all this great business that's ramping up in the US
thanks to us terrists, blah blah blah. And of course
he didn't see the irony there that the reason that
there's so many job vacancys is because, you know, a
lot of those people who do those sort of robots
(12:46):
can do it kind of jobs pay from outside of
the United States to do those jobs. He's put a.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Stop to the hate.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I'm sure that's positive as well. Yeah, big week for Trump.
I am Glen Hart. I'm going to see if I
can get this voice working properly out of the weekend. Unfortunately,
I will be here on Monday, although it's a holiday
here in Auckland. You don't want to hear you complained
about that every year like I do every year. Just
(13:15):
take it as well and we'll see it then. Used
Talking Talkings it Bean.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
For more from News Talk set b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
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