April 13, 2026 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Monday on Newstalk ZB) Way Too Much Reality On My Telly/Matt Comes Up Short. Again
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Listen
Watch
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First of yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart, and we're
looking back at Monday. Which was it rubbish day or not?
We'll find out at the end of the podcast, But
first up, how many different ways are there to view
(00:45):
a cyclone or a former cyclone or whatever category of cyclone?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
It was a storm for the most part for the
North Island was a fizzer. The TV news the only
thing they were battling was the battle, the struggle to
find pictures of anything actually happening other than a few
trees down and reporters breathlessly doing pieces to camera in
the wind. In aucklandhere island of most shops were closed
in my particular area and they didn't need to be.
(01:12):
There is a risk here of the boy who cried wolf,
But I also don't think that we need to have
an existential national conversation about whether this was overhyped or not.
The fordcasters do their thing. They tell you what is
coming or their best guess of what's coming. Then it's
up to us to make our own decisions based on
the information, based on our own experience and our personal judgment.
(01:33):
That's life. The businesses who decided to close yesterday before
anything it actually happened, lost to day's trade. The ones
who didn't didn't. Maybe next time they'll make a different call.
After all, Auckland was only under an orange watch. The
media coverage was over the top. It always is. Remember
they make money off events like this eyeballs on screens.
(01:55):
I noticed before every video of on the stuff site
yesterday of the ocean lapping at a sand dune, there
was an ad for Tower Insurance paying for it. This
is what they do, and they will do what they do.
But you can't tell Met Service to not report the weather,
can you. Otherwise, what's the point in met Service? The
(02:15):
damned if they do, and damned if they don't. Those forecasters.
We're all responsible ultimately for our own lives, and ultimately
we can decide if we're safe enough to stay home
or to go get a flat white from the local.
Robert Harris and the Robert Harris can decide whether they
open and if you want to go out kitesurfing or
surfing in the storm. All power to you. You might
(02:36):
die or you might have an awesome Sunday. Either way,
it'll be your informed choice.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So, various news outlets seem to be coppying a bit
of flack from some quarters about their rather breathless coverage.
I always like to get my family's view on things, because,
you know, because I'm sort of immersed right in the media,
(03:04):
I'm in the thick of it. You can quickly become
quite cynical about this stuff news talks it been anyway,
the twenty two year old, she said, why did they
have a reporter standing out in the rain? Couldn't they
have just showed a picture of it raining. Why did
(03:27):
they need to actually put her out there in it?
Good question, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Andrew, Maybe it's time to abandon the coast, to give
up on it, because it keeps on being flooded and
closed down, and the roads keep being destroyed. When he
said that his name might have been Mike, I replied, Look,
there's far too many retired lawyers and fity younger to
(03:53):
ever let the road be closed down or the place
to be abandoned because of a bit of flooding at Hickaway.
That's not going to happen. But there is a conversation
we need to have. The storms are powerful, but there
they are no more powerful than in the past. And
ask Im Wishart, he'll show you that the worst storms
(04:13):
we've had were back in the nineteen thirties and the
turn of the nineteen hundreds. But the real problem these
days is their regularity. Like I say, every fortnight, my
place has been cut off by flooding. Super soaking land
causes flash flooding and slips and close the roads. And
(04:35):
it's happened time and time and time and time and
time again, unlike it used to back in the old days.
So the question we have is if we are to
keep living in the regularly affected places like the Corimandal
or East Cape. There's obviously a need to further strengthen
their infrastructure so that they don't close. But the question
(04:56):
there is are we prepared to spend the money to
increase our resilience to make these roads unfloodable or is
it time to tell the good people of the Coramandal
and the East Cape that this is the downside of
living in these far flung and vulnerable places.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I think maybe it's not about giving up on places
like the Coromandal. I think you've just got to be
prepared to be self sufficient and live there sustainably, Like
if you're on a desert island somewhere so and I
guess it comes down to, you know, with that question
(05:37):
about you know, what would your desert island food be?
If you could have take one food with you to
a desert island, what would it be? Might it be
a messi platter? I think I've often thought, but that
would be good. I'm just not sure if I can
grow all the ingredients of a measy platter. In the
Coromandel had chickpeas for the hummus. Can I make terramasalada complicated?
(06:04):
Isn't it a mesi platter? Sometimes you've talk zibbin anyway.
I mean, nobody's more part of the media than Heather
Dup for c Allen, and I'm sure she's got some
sympathy for the driving urge to get clicks. If Pete
gets my balls? How do you make people get interested
(06:26):
in your story?
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Right, here's a question I'd like to answer. Do we
all have weird priorities about what we care about in
this country or is it just the TV news in
the evening that has these weird priorities. Last night I
had to sit through thirteen minutes of TV one telling
me that nothing had happened with the cyclone before I
got to the Iran War, where something had actually happened. First,
One News took us to the reporter in the Bay
(06:49):
of Plenty. That reporter told us the storm had brought
down a tree in the main street, and a couple
of old ladies made some jokes about wanting to go
for a swim in the big swell, but really nothing
had happened. Then we went to Gismond to be told
the wastewater flooded and the guy in the caravan from
the previous night's news was hardly affected by the storm
because nothing much happened. And then we went to Henry
and Hawke's Bay, where nothing had happened yet. And then
(07:09):
we went to the corimand Or, where Simon Mrcep told
us he looked there were the really big storm surges
and fits younger, but nothing had happened. And then we
went to the far North where the river was really high,
but nothing had happened. Then the weather girl wrapped it
all up, and then they told us breakfast would be
all over it in the morning, just in case something happened.
And then finally, after twelve minutes and forty five minutes
of this, forty five seconds of this, finally we went
(07:32):
to the Iran wars situation where something had happened. The
peace talks had broken down in the delegation. The US
delegation had now left. That is a war, by the way,
that will affect every single one of us. We will
not escape it. The weather is going to affect some people.
It will absolutely have affected a small group of people
quite dramatically. But the Iran war will affect every single
(07:52):
one of us in this country. Because diesel is tipped
to hit four dollars a liter, which means food prices
will go up. Inflation is now rumored to peak higher
than after COVID at seven point five percent, and am
Z is calling three OCR hikes this year because of it.
Now I wondered if this was some sort of a
reflection of what audiences were interested in, as in, they
can't get enough of the weather and couldn't care less
(08:14):
of some war in Iran.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
No.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
I checked with the Herald this afternoon. Both of them
are the top trending stories and there isn't much between them.
I would like to suggest that the TV news in
the evening may want to rethink the strategy of thirteen
months minutes of nothing leading the bulletin. So I realize
importance pictures are important to TV, and I realize that
they've paid to send Simon to the Corimandel, so they
(08:36):
do need three minutes from him to chuck on the tally.
But pictures of nothing is still nothing, and there's only
so much time in the day that we can spend
watching nothing. Before as audiences, we just stopped watching.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I'm not a fan of the television news. Actually, I
think I filed it into the same department as reality TV.
I mean, it's the ultimate reality TV, isn't it the news?
And I've decided I want. What I want from my
TV is not reality. It's the opposite of reality, and
(09:09):
I think that's why I'm more into you know, aliens
and explosions in car chases, maybe even the odd submarine.
Let's take a break from reality when you watch TV.
I don't want more of it. I could just look
out my window if I.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Want that news talk zi bean.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
But whatever you do, don't forget when rubbish day is?
Speaker 7 (09:33):
What's your rubbish day?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Tyler?
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Thursday morning?
Speaker 7 (09:36):
All right?
Speaker 6 (09:37):
So I was home and host mate that was out
there on Thursday morning. I was to lad twenty four
hours up my sleeve.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I missed my.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
Rubbish this morning, Judah, not wanting to be blown over
in the non cyclone and and so didn't get up
in time this morning to put my rush out. Now,
just there's nothing worse than missing There's nothing worse in
this world than missing your rubbish.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It's pretty bad. You know.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
That starts the week off on the wrong foot.
Speaker 7 (09:58):
So if I bought my wheeli bit into work tomorrow,
would you take it home and put it out with
your rubbish on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I'll do your deal.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
You can put half of it in the work skip
and then I will take a handful probably Andrew will
take a bit as well. What like, Between us as
a team, we can we can help you out.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Really, you reckon.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
We can group together and sort out my my weely
bin problems.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, we can solve you there.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
I was about to run down the road, but it's
only in my undies and you know, try and run
past the truck and get ahead of it and put it,
you know, down there. This's quite a big, you know,
group of townhouses down the road for me, So I
was going to rush down and try and get in
front of fro front of it and jump in. But
then I was like running down the road and I'll
be arrested running down the road with rubbish and mandyes.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Well yeah, yeah, probably would be. What about if you
loaded it in the car, then you drove to a
street that was about to have their rubbish day and
then you just sort of, you know, scattered it in
various bins that you saw. So that's not even your community.
So even if you get caught, you can just scarp
or and nobody will know.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah where you live.
Speaker 7 (10:58):
What kind of jail time can you face for putting
rubbish in other people's rubbish bins on the wrong rubbish
day for you?
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Yeah, the rubbish bin fury again.
Speaker 7 (11:05):
No, No, I'll bring it in and you can take
it home and throw it out.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Thanks mate, All got mate, That's what I'm here for.
And more and more I'm coming to the conclusion that
the whole point of Tyler and Matt's show is to
just explore various areas in their lives where they've come
up short, and there seems to be no shortage of
those areas as the coming up short. There's no coming
(11:27):
up short shortage. You can't argue it's entertaining.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
It certainly is.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
That. I'm saying to wonder if they do these things
on purpose, or in the case of that, they don't
do these things on purpose. Don't wort the rebishut on purpose?
Surely not anyway, I am Glen Hart. Hopefully I didn't
come up short. I know, I see I'm coming up
for twelve minutes. It's heaps. I'll see you back here
(12:00):
again with an other sort of came to fourteen
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Tomorrow or from news talk set b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First of yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart, and we're
looking back at Monday. Which was it rubbish day or not?
We'll find out at the end of the podcast, But
first up, how many different ways are there to view
(00:45):
a cyclone or a former cyclone or whatever category of cyclone?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
It was a storm for the most part for the
North Island was a fizzer. The TV news the only
thing they were battling was the battle, the struggle to
find pictures of anything actually happening other than a few
trees down and reporters breathlessly doing pieces to camera in
the wind. In aucklandhere island of most shops were closed
in my particular area and they didn't need to be.
(01:12):
There is a risk here of the boy who cried wolf,
But I also don't think that we need to have
an existential national conversation about whether this was overhyped or not.
The fordcasters do their thing. They tell you what is
coming or their best guess of what's coming. Then it's
up to us to make our own decisions based on
the information, based on our own experience and our personal judgment.
(01:33):
That's life. The businesses who decided to close yesterday before
anything it actually happened, lost to day's trade. The ones
who didn't didn't. Maybe next time they'll make a different call.
After all, Auckland was only under an orange watch. The
media coverage was over the top. It always is. Remember
they make money off events like this eyeballs on screens.
(01:55):
I noticed before every video of on the stuff site
yesterday of the ocean lapping at a sand dune, there
was an ad for Tower Insurance paying for it. This
is what they do, and they will do what they do.
But you can't tell Met Service to not report the weather,
can you. Otherwise, what's the point in met Service? The
(02:15):
damned if they do, and damned if they don't. Those forecasters.
We're all responsible ultimately for our own lives, and ultimately
we can decide if we're safe enough to stay home
or to go get a flat white from the local.
Robert Harris and the Robert Harris can decide whether they
open and if you want to go out kitesurfing or
surfing in the storm. All power to you. You might
(02:36):
die or you might have an awesome Sunday. Either way,
it'll be your informed choice.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So, various news outlets seem to be coppying a bit
of flack from some quarters about their rather breathless coverage.
I always like to get my family's view on things, because,
you know, because I'm sort of immersed right in the media,
(03:04):
I'm in the thick of it. You can quickly become
quite cynical about this stuff news talks it been anyway,
the twenty two year old, she said, why did they
have a reporter standing out in the rain? Couldn't they
have just showed a picture of it raining. Why did
(03:27):
they need to actually put her out there in it?
Good question, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Andrew, Maybe it's time to abandon the coast, to give
up on it, because it keeps on being flooded and
closed down, and the roads keep being destroyed. When he
said that his name might have been Mike, I replied, Look,
there's far too many retired lawyers and fity younger to
(03:53):
ever let the road be closed down or the place
to be abandoned because of a bit of flooding at Hickaway.
That's not going to happen. But there is a conversation
we need to have. The storms are powerful, but there
they are no more powerful than in the past. And
ask Im Wishart, he'll show you that the worst storms
(04:13):
we've had were back in the nineteen thirties and the
turn of the nineteen hundreds. But the real problem these
days is their regularity. Like I say, every fortnight, my
place has been cut off by flooding. Super soaking land
causes flash flooding and slips and close the roads. And
(04:35):
it's happened time and time and time and time and
time again, unlike it used to back in the old days.
So the question we have is if we are to
keep living in the regularly affected places like the Corimandal
or East Cape. There's obviously a need to further strengthen
their infrastructure so that they don't close. But the question
(04:56):
there is are we prepared to spend the money to
increase our resilience to make these roads unfloodable or is
it time to tell the good people of the Coramandal
and the East Cape that this is the downside of
living in these far flung and vulnerable places.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I think maybe it's not about giving up on places
like the Coromandal. I think you've just got to be
prepared to be self sufficient and live there sustainably, Like
if you're on a desert island somewhere so and I
guess it comes down to, you know, with that question
(05:37):
about you know, what would your desert island food be?
If you could have take one food with you to
a desert island, what would it be? Might it be
a messi platter? I think I've often thought, but that
would be good. I'm just not sure if I can
grow all the ingredients of a measy platter. In the
Coromandel had chickpeas for the hummus. Can I make terramasalada complicated?
(06:04):
Isn't it a mesi platter? Sometimes you've talk zibbin anyway.
I mean, nobody's more part of the media than Heather
Dup for c Allen, and I'm sure she's got some
sympathy for the driving urge to get clicks. If Pete
gets my balls? How do you make people get interested
(06:26):
in your story?
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Right, here's a question I'd like to answer. Do we
all have weird priorities about what we care about in
this country or is it just the TV news in
the evening that has these weird priorities. Last night I
had to sit through thirteen minutes of TV one telling
me that nothing had happened with the cyclone before I
got to the Iran War, where something had actually happened. First,
One News took us to the reporter in the Bay
(06:49):
of Plenty. That reporter told us the storm had brought
down a tree in the main street, and a couple
of old ladies made some jokes about wanting to go
for a swim in the big swell, but really nothing
had happened. Then we went to Gismond to be told
the wastewater flooded and the guy in the caravan from
the previous night's news was hardly affected by the storm
because nothing much happened. And then we went to Henry
and Hawke's Bay, where nothing had happened yet. And then
(07:09):
we went to the corimand Or, where Simon Mrcep told
us he looked there were the really big storm surges
and fits younger, but nothing had happened. And then we
went to the far North where the river was really high,
but nothing had happened. Then the weather girl wrapped it
all up, and then they told us breakfast would be
all over it in the morning, just in case something happened.
And then finally, after twelve minutes and forty five minutes
of this, forty five seconds of this, finally we went
(07:32):
to the Iran wars situation where something had happened. The
peace talks had broken down in the delegation. The US
delegation had now left. That is a war, by the way,
that will affect every single one of us. We will
not escape it. The weather is going to affect some people.
It will absolutely have affected a small group of people
quite dramatically. But the Iran war will affect every single
(07:52):
one of us in this country. Because diesel is tipped
to hit four dollars a liter, which means food prices
will go up. Inflation is now rumored to peak higher
than after COVID at seven point five percent, and am
Z is calling three OCR hikes this year because of it.
Now I wondered if this was some sort of a
reflection of what audiences were interested in, as in, they
can't get enough of the weather and couldn't care less
(08:14):
of some war in Iran.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
No.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
I checked with the Herald this afternoon. Both of them
are the top trending stories and there isn't much between them.
I would like to suggest that the TV news in
the evening may want to rethink the strategy of thirteen
months minutes of nothing leading the bulletin. So I realize
importance pictures are important to TV, and I realize that
they've paid to send Simon to the Corimandel, so they
(08:36):
do need three minutes from him to chuck on the tally.
But pictures of nothing is still nothing, and there's only
so much time in the day that we can spend
watching nothing. Before as audiences, we just stopped watching.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I'm not a fan of the television news. Actually, I
think I filed it into the same department as reality TV.
I mean, it's the ultimate reality TV, isn't it the news?
And I've decided I want. What I want from my
TV is not reality. It's the opposite of reality, and
(09:09):
I think that's why I'm more into you know, aliens
and explosions in car chases, maybe even the odd submarine.
Let's take a break from reality when you watch TV.
I don't want more of it. I could just look
out my window if I.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Want that news talk zi bean.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
But whatever you do, don't forget when rubbish day is?
Speaker 7 (09:33):
What's your rubbish day?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Tyler?
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Thursday morning?
Speaker 7 (09:36):
All right?
Speaker 6 (09:37):
So I was home and host mate that was out
there on Thursday morning. I was to lad twenty four
hours up my sleeve.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I missed my.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
Rubbish this morning, Judah, not wanting to be blown over
in the non cyclone and and so didn't get up
in time this morning to put my rush out. Now,
just there's nothing worse than missing There's nothing worse in
this world than missing your rubbish.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It's pretty bad. You know.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
That starts the week off on the wrong foot.
Speaker 7 (09:58):
So if I bought my wheeli bit into work tomorrow,
would you take it home and put it out with
your rubbish on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I'll do your deal.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
You can put half of it in the work skip
and then I will take a handful probably Andrew will
take a bit as well. What like, Between us as
a team, we can we can help you out.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Really, you reckon.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
We can group together and sort out my my weely
bin problems.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, we can solve you there.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
I was about to run down the road, but it's
only in my undies and you know, try and run
past the truck and get ahead of it and put it,
you know, down there. This's quite a big, you know,
group of townhouses down the road for me, So I
was going to rush down and try and get in
front of fro front of it and jump in. But
then I was like running down the road and I'll
be arrested running down the road with rubbish and mandyes.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Well yeah, yeah, probably would be. What about if you
loaded it in the car, then you drove to a
street that was about to have their rubbish day and
then you just sort of, you know, scattered it in
various bins that you saw. So that's not even your community.
So even if you get caught, you can just scarp
or and nobody will know.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah where you live.
Speaker 7 (10:58):
What kind of jail time can you face for putting
rubbish in other people's rubbish bins on the wrong rubbish
day for you?
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Yeah, the rubbish bin fury again.
Speaker 7 (11:05):
No, No, I'll bring it in and you can take
it home and throw it out.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Thanks mate, All got mate, That's what I'm here for.
And more and more I'm coming to the conclusion that
the whole point of Tyler and Matt's show is to
just explore various areas in their lives where they've come
up short, and there seems to be no shortage of
those areas as the coming up short. There's no coming
(11:27):
up short shortage. You can't argue it's entertaining.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
It certainly is.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
That. I'm saying to wonder if they do these things
on purpose, or in the case of that, they don't
do these things on purpose. Don't wort the rebishut on purpose?
Surely not anyway, I am Glen Hart. Hopefully I didn't
come up short. I know, I see I'm coming up
for twelve minutes. It's heaps. I'll see you back here
(12:00):
again with an other sort of came to fourteen
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Tomorrow or from news talk set b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
Popular Podcasts
Joy 101 with Hoda Kotb
Joy is essential. And it's also elusive. You can't order it, borrow it, or simply hope it into life. But now, there's a new and exciting way to start your journey toward a more joyful existence: The Joy 101 Podcast with Hoda! Best known for her Emmy-winning work and co-anchoring Today, Hoda Kotb infuses her authenticity, curiosity, and warmth into conversations with the world’s most fascinating people. Entertainment legends, sport icons, wellness experts, and everyday folks will share how they find, allow, and experience joy. Hoda will offer her own tips and takes on seeking a more balanced, harmonious life. If you're craving inspiration, support, and useful tools to maximize your joy, tune in to these candid, uplifting, and moving on-air chats. Joy after a breakup, joy as an empty-nester, joy after loss, joy as a caretaker — Hoda's new podcast will speak to you. Joy 101 with Hoda Kotb, an iHeartPodcast.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com