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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello maybe little beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
First of yesterday's news.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I am Glen Hart, and we're looking back at Tuesday.
What is labor and Chrishipkins up to with this India
FDA thing? The black market cigarette business is booming and
the poor old crusaders an't.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Allowed their horses anymore, Oh dear.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
But first up, Yes, the Trump versus Pope celebrity death match.
It seems to be ramping up, not calling down.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Pope's gone do what Pope's gone do and we all
want peace, but religious leaders are doing more of this
getting political. We've had Vickers and Nappies channing themselves to Nicola.
This is electric office. Remember that we've had priests supposing
acts Treaty Bill. Ten church groups held an all night
vigil at Saint Paul's Cathedral to protest the Coalition government's
(01:19):
move on orders. Deborah Coddington, former Acting p made quite
a relevant observation about this in the spin off last week.
She said, instead of show boating and handwringing and virtue signaling.
Churches should start paying rates to local bodies, sell some
of those very valuable assets that they currently rent out.
That it raised enough money to house the homers who
(01:41):
sleep on the streets right now, problem solved. So why
don't they do that the Vatican because it's got a
small population. You see the Vatican huge tithings, eighteenth wealthiest
nation in the world per capita, huge real estate portfolio.
In fact, media reports vary, but anywhere between seventy three
and two hundred and fifty billion dollars worth of real estate,
thank you, very much, more than the combined wealth of
(02:03):
all the billionaires of this country has ever known. That's
for sure. And you can see how the starts to
look if they start to get too political hypocritical, like
the Salvation Army, Amnesty International. You know, when they go
beyond just calling out poverty and start advocating for things
like wealth taxes, it just rubs people the wrong way. Personally,
(02:24):
I think the less politically religious leader, the more effective
their message. Is nothing sacred anymore, it seems not not
in Pope Leo's world.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, I'm a bit torn on this because obviously.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I think Trump's an idiot and he should stop doing
well everything, he should stop doing everything that he's ever
started doing. So I'm with the Pope on that, but
I'm against the Pope on pretty much everything else because
you know, I'm just not a religion guy.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
So it's tricky news talk ze been we don't get
me wrong, It's not just the Pope.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Everybody who puts on a weird dress and strained hat
and waves around in a funny building.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
You know, I'm just not into that.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Imagine thinking that that the Pope, whose job it is
is to understand theology and to be a moral voice
in the world, that the Pope shouldn't talk about unnecessary death,
the the deaths of women and children of civilians by
the most powerful country in the world, who should know better.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
So that's Tim rocksborother.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
He's standing it for Marcus that that show sounded like
it was a laugh a minute last night with comments
like that, I'm not sure. Do you get a bit
sort of less stationary, you know, staplers and you try
to trying to broadcast after you've locked yourself out of
the studio. There's a bit less of that sort of
(03:55):
stuff when term's doing that show than when Marcus is
doing it.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Marcus for Pope, I say talk right.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So it seems like the only way labor feels like
they can get any real make any real headway in
this election campaign at the moment is to stop us
having an FBA with India if they can.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
What is this about. They seem to think it's a
bad idea.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Everybody else seems to think in the is basically where
the future of the global economy will stem from.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Basically labor, not into it. Funny old thing labor, aren't
they export?
Speaker 6 (04:43):
New Zealand Executive director Joshua Tan says the deal will
be a major win for the wider economy, and he
warns that delays could leave New Zealand exporters at a
disadvantage because India is doing other trade agreements, including with
the European Union, and some of the stuff that they've
given to us they won't give to us, they will
give to someone else because then they're canning negotiators. They
(05:04):
say sign this and to sign it quick. Here's a
couple of things that will be in your favor. But
if you don't sign it, we'll take those away. We'll
give them to somebody else, so being held under the gun.
The Meat Industry Association, who also signed the letter, says
the agreement will remove a thirty percent tariff on sheep
meat and deliver games for wool and pharmaceuticals and blood products.
(05:27):
Nathan Guy's the chair there. He says New Zealand's primary
sector needs this deal more than ever.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
So this letter.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
New Zealand First Leader Wisdom Peters has criticized it. He
says it's breathtaking that businesses would endorse an agreement without
seeing the full text. He says, they're wanting us to
sign a contract blindfolded. Winston says his office has us
Business New Zealand and Catherine Ridge whether the signatories have
actually read the agreement, and claims that they have not
(05:58):
received a clear answer. Meanwhile, what's Labor up to eh?
Labor leader Chris Hipkins says his party recognizes, of course,
the potential benefits of a free trade deal like this
for exporters, but he says the government must address what
he calls issues and inconsistencies before Labor can commit it support.
(06:19):
He says that Labour's been seeking clarification for nearly two months,
so if they've been asking for two months. How come
they haven't got that clarification. Do you think that National's
trying to hide something? Is there something in there? I
don't know, but for now, the India Free Trade Agreement
remains uncertain. Exporters are calling for urgency. New Zealand first
(06:39):
demand transparency and labor is waiting for answers.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Got a real feeling of.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
People finding ways not to do things this particular.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Issue, And you know, I'm just sort of worried that
it's all going to end up like the cockstraight theories or.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
The PenLink motorway project, where people fat about so much
that it just ends up getting put off and put
off and put off and gets more and more expensive
and costing more and more money for people. I'm probably
wrong about that. That's my That's the general gist I'm getting. Meanwhile,
(07:26):
business is booming for illegal cigarette vendors. Are you a vendor?
You sneakily sell tobacco on the black market?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Sounds a bit flashpoin New a vendor, isn't it?
Speaker 7 (07:42):
And it's not the odd bit of crime like this
is not a sort of like happening over there, happening
over there. Not much of it going on. Three people
have been killed already and more than two hundred fire
bombs have happened in the space of the last three years.
And it's for the same reason that things may cack
off here, which is the price on ciggies. So a
price of legal ciggies in Australia legal packet is fifty bucks,
(08:04):
the illegal stuff is only thirteen dollars. Why because of
the tax. The tax is so high now. So this
brings us to the solution. What retail New Zealand wants
to do here is to convene an urgent government task force.
I mean, give me strength. We don't know that our
gangs are necessarily going to start fire bombing over the
distribution of cheap Asian cigarettes in Auckland. But if they do,
(08:24):
a task force isn't going to stop them, is it?
Because all the task forces under the sun in this
country haven't stopped the distribution of p so not going
to stop the distribution of siggies. The only thing that's
going to stop them is if we cut the excise
tax and make legal siggies cheap again, so cheap that
the gangs don't have to bring in the cheap siggis.
That's not gonna happen, is it. It's obviously not going
to happen because the health Nazis are going to lose
(08:45):
their minds. But that is the only solution. Task Forces
are not a solution. They are a placebo that's going
to make you feel like we're doing something when we're
not just going to cost us time and money. Now
remember me saying this when in a couple of weeks time,
the government that promised to stop the waste of taxpayers
money announces a task force.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
It's tricky, isn't it? To we let gangs kill each
other over tobacco, or really everybody die of lung cancer
over tobacco.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Should be.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
News talk.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Right, let's finish up now with That's something I couldn't
care less about? Is you a couple of things I
couldn't care less about? So the crusaders and they're stupid horses.
Speaker 8 (09:33):
It's a big grass field. Horses can run around a
big grass field. Who is the muppet that said no,
they can run around? There is there is space. Horses
can run in a very small line.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Get out.
Speaker 7 (09:45):
They can get them and they're well trained horses.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
They know what they're doing.
Speaker 8 (09:47):
Get them in there, let them chew up the picture,
but let them run around on the grass. But you
can't play. How soft are these super rugby players? Remember
break dancing that did more damage to the turf and
these horses, but they can't run a few hoffprints. They
can't play the game on a few hoffprints. Bad decisions,
bad decision that the horses, This says, put a stain
on the new stadium. It's not fit for purpose. Shut
(10:09):
it down at all if you can't fit some horses
in there.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
It was a good run, mate, it was a good run.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
It's not fit for purpose.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Hut down.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Do you reckon? It's just.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
It's fine when you're winning and you're all powerful and superdominant,
then you can probably have your your dress ups, your
knights and your horses and your pretend swords.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
And waving around.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
It just looks a little bit stupid when you can't
beat the reds over the weekends, doesn't it. I mean,
I know they didn't take the horses to Suncorp Stadium
with them, but I don't think anybody can looking at
the table and the results the season so far, if
(11:03):
they're on a crusade, it's not going very well.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Let's be able to say, your stupid dress apps and
your stupid dressed up horses just look a bit stupid.
So I feel about that. Don't hold back, Jan, tell
us how you really feel. Uh, and I will again tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
The use Talking talks it beam.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
For more from News Talk st B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk said Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello maybe little beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
First of yesterday's news.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I am Glen Hart, and we're looking back at Tuesday.
What is labor and Chrishipkins up to with this India
FDA thing? The black market cigarette business is booming and
the poor old crusaders an't.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Allowed their horses anymore, Oh dear.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
But first up, Yes, the Trump versus Pope celebrity death match.
It seems to be ramping up, not calling down.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Pope's gone do what Pope's gone do and we all
want peace, but religious leaders are doing more of this
getting political. We've had Vickers and Nappies channing themselves to Nicola.
This is electric office. Remember that we've had priests supposing
acts Treaty Bill. Ten church groups held an all night
vigil at Saint Paul's Cathedral to protest the Coalition government's
(01:19):
move on orders. Deborah Coddington, former Acting p made quite
a relevant observation about this in the spin off last week.
She said, instead of show boating and handwringing and virtue signaling.
Churches should start paying rates to local bodies, sell some
of those very valuable assets that they currently rent out.
That it raised enough money to house the homers who
(01:41):
sleep on the streets right now, problem solved. So why
don't they do that the Vatican because it's got a
small population. You see the Vatican huge tithings, eighteenth wealthiest
nation in the world per capita, huge real estate portfolio.
In fact, media reports vary, but anywhere between seventy three
and two hundred and fifty billion dollars worth of real estate,
thank you, very much, more than the combined wealth of
(02:03):
all the billionaires of this country has ever known. That's
for sure. And you can see how the starts to
look if they start to get too political hypocritical, like
the Salvation Army, Amnesty International. You know, when they go
beyond just calling out poverty and start advocating for things
like wealth taxes, it just rubs people the wrong way. Personally,
(02:24):
I think the less politically religious leader, the more effective
their message. Is nothing sacred anymore, it seems not not
in Pope Leo's world.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, I'm a bit torn on this because obviously.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I think Trump's an idiot and he should stop doing
well everything, he should stop doing everything that he's ever
started doing. So I'm with the Pope on that, but
I'm against the Pope on pretty much everything else because
you know, I'm just not a religion guy.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
So it's tricky news talk ze been we don't get
me wrong, It's not just the Pope.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Everybody who puts on a weird dress and strained hat
and waves around in a funny building.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
You know, I'm just not into that.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Imagine thinking that that the Pope, whose job it is
is to understand theology and to be a moral voice
in the world, that the Pope shouldn't talk about unnecessary death,
the the deaths of women and children of civilians by
the most powerful country in the world, who should know better.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
So that's Tim rocksborother.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
He's standing it for Marcus that that show sounded like
it was a laugh a minute last night with comments
like that, I'm not sure. Do you get a bit
sort of less stationary, you know, staplers and you try
to trying to broadcast after you've locked yourself out of
the studio. There's a bit less of that sort of
(03:55):
stuff when term's doing that show than when Marcus is
doing it.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Marcus for Pope, I say talk right.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So it seems like the only way labor feels like
they can get any real make any real headway in
this election campaign at the moment is to stop us
having an FBA with India if they can.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
What is this about. They seem to think it's a
bad idea.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Everybody else seems to think in the is basically where
the future of the global economy will stem from.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Basically labor, not into it. Funny old thing labor, aren't
they export?
Speaker 6 (04:43):
New Zealand Executive director Joshua Tan says the deal will
be a major win for the wider economy, and he
warns that delays could leave New Zealand exporters at a
disadvantage because India is doing other trade agreements, including with
the European Union, and some of the stuff that they've
given to us they won't give to us, they will
give to someone else because then they're canning negotiators. They
(05:04):
say sign this and to sign it quick. Here's a
couple of things that will be in your favor. But
if you don't sign it, we'll take those away. We'll
give them to somebody else, so being held under the gun.
The Meat Industry Association, who also signed the letter, says
the agreement will remove a thirty percent tariff on sheep
meat and deliver games for wool and pharmaceuticals and blood products.
(05:27):
Nathan Guy's the chair there. He says New Zealand's primary
sector needs this deal more than ever.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
So this letter.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
New Zealand First Leader Wisdom Peters has criticized it. He
says it's breathtaking that businesses would endorse an agreement without
seeing the full text. He says, they're wanting us to
sign a contract blindfolded. Winston says his office has us
Business New Zealand and Catherine Ridge whether the signatories have
actually read the agreement, and claims that they have not
(05:58):
received a clear answer. Meanwhile, what's Labor up to eh?
Labor leader Chris Hipkins says his party recognizes, of course,
the potential benefits of a free trade deal like this
for exporters, but he says the government must address what
he calls issues and inconsistencies before Labor can commit it support.
(06:19):
He says that Labour's been seeking clarification for nearly two months,
so if they've been asking for two months. How come
they haven't got that clarification. Do you think that National's
trying to hide something? Is there something in there? I
don't know, but for now, the India Free Trade Agreement
remains uncertain. Exporters are calling for urgency. New Zealand first
(06:39):
demand transparency and labor is waiting for answers.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Got a real feeling of.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
People finding ways not to do things this particular.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Issue, And you know, I'm just sort of worried that
it's all going to end up like the cockstraight theories or.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
The PenLink motorway project, where people fat about so much
that it just ends up getting put off and put
off and put off and gets more and more expensive
and costing more and more money for people. I'm probably
wrong about that. That's my That's the general gist I'm getting. Meanwhile,
(07:26):
business is booming for illegal cigarette vendors. Are you a vendor?
You sneakily sell tobacco on the black market?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Sounds a bit flashpoin New a vendor, isn't it?
Speaker 7 (07:42):
And it's not the odd bit of crime like this
is not a sort of like happening over there, happening
over there. Not much of it going on. Three people
have been killed already and more than two hundred fire
bombs have happened in the space of the last three years.
And it's for the same reason that things may cack
off here, which is the price on ciggies. So a
price of legal ciggies in Australia legal packet is fifty bucks,
(08:04):
the illegal stuff is only thirteen dollars. Why because of
the tax. The tax is so high now. So this
brings us to the solution. What retail New Zealand wants
to do here is to convene an urgent government task force.
I mean, give me strength. We don't know that our
gangs are necessarily going to start fire bombing over the
distribution of cheap Asian cigarettes in Auckland. But if they do,
(08:24):
a task force isn't going to stop them, is it?
Because all the task forces under the sun in this
country haven't stopped the distribution of p so not going
to stop the distribution of siggies. The only thing that's
going to stop them is if we cut the excise
tax and make legal siggies cheap again, so cheap that
the gangs don't have to bring in the cheap siggis.
That's not gonna happen, is it. It's obviously not going
to happen because the health Nazis are going to lose
(08:45):
their minds. But that is the only solution. Task Forces
are not a solution. They are a placebo that's going
to make you feel like we're doing something when we're
not just going to cost us time and money. Now
remember me saying this when in a couple of weeks time,
the government that promised to stop the waste of taxpayers
money announces a task force.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
It's tricky, isn't it? To we let gangs kill each
other over tobacco, or really everybody die of lung cancer
over tobacco.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Should be.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
News talk.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Right, let's finish up now with That's something I couldn't
care less about? Is you a couple of things I
couldn't care less about? So the crusaders and they're stupid horses.
Speaker 8 (09:33):
It's a big grass field. Horses can run around a
big grass field. Who is the muppet that said no,
they can run around? There is there is space. Horses
can run in a very small line.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Get out.
Speaker 7 (09:45):
They can get them and they're well trained horses.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
They know what they're doing.
Speaker 8 (09:47):
Get them in there, let them chew up the picture,
but let them run around on the grass. But you
can't play. How soft are these super rugby players? Remember
break dancing that did more damage to the turf and
these horses, but they can't run a few hoffprints. They
can't play the game on a few hoffprints. Bad decisions,
bad decision that the horses, This says, put a stain
on the new stadium. It's not fit for purpose. Shut
(10:09):
it down at all if you can't fit some horses
in there.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
It was a good run, mate, it was a good run.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
It's not fit for purpose.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Hut down.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Do you reckon? It's just.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
It's fine when you're winning and you're all powerful and superdominant,
then you can probably have your your dress ups, your
knights and your horses and your pretend swords.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
And waving around.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
It just looks a little bit stupid when you can't
beat the reds over the weekends, doesn't it. I mean,
I know they didn't take the horses to Suncorp Stadium
with them, but I don't think anybody can looking at
the table and the results the season so far, if
(11:03):
they're on a crusade, it's not going very well.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Let's be able to say, your stupid dress apps and
your stupid dressed up horses just look a bit stupid.
So I feel about that. Don't hold back, Jan, tell
us how you really feel. Uh, and I will again tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
The use Talking talks it beam.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
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