August 12, 2026 • 12 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean for Thursday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Wednesday. Andrew Dickens got hold of
a radio show that's not usually his and used it
to vent about the fact that Olivia dean Concet's been moved,
(00:46):
So stand by for that. But yes, yes, yes, yes.
Most of the day yesterday I was talking about whether
or not Luxon would survive. It's funny how they term
it like that, Isn't it like? It's not like they
take him out the back and shoot him if he
if he doesn't stay as leader, it just means he
doesn't get to be prime minister anymore. Anyway, he does
(01:08):
get to be prime minister anymore. But it was kind
of up in the year when Ryan was on air yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
If the numbers are not in his favor, the writings
on the wall, he could clear the decks for the
caucus to focus on electing his replacement. I've been speaking
to National Party MPs and former MPs over the past
two weeks, because that's how long this thing has been
really dragging on. Behind the scenes. Some are furious with
Luckson's leadership, own goals, foot and mouth disease, lack of discipline.
(01:36):
There's a feeling that Key and others in the party
have been covering for Luckson's mistakes, hammering the message that
any change will mean catastrophe come polling day. Talk of
a Stanford Mitchell ticket with Bishop as finance tells you
that unlike last time, the leadership hopefuls have organized with
a viable alternative, notably excluding Nikola Willis. Anyone who tells
(01:58):
you that they know what will happen today is making
it up. As much as twenty five percent of the
caucus are set to lose their jobs on current polling
Uckson loses his today, it will be a gamble, a
roll of the dice, a massive risk if they stick
with Luxen. How can you credibly say you're unified behind
(02:21):
your leader after two spills in four months. Leaders confident
in their support don't need to call confidence votes in themselves,
and certainly not twice.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
The whole thing's been very odd. I think the oddest
thing about it is that, you know, the guy who
really hasn't managed to get any traction in the polls
is in charge of a different party on the other
side of the house, and people seem to have completely
forgotten about questioning his leadership. Another cress, What do you
(02:59):
mean you can't remember who I'm talking about? News Talk
been so when Carrie first went to air yesterday morning,
nothing had been decided, But how did she think that
it was going?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Simon Bridges was dumped, replaced by Todd Muller who retired hurt,
and then Judith Collins got the hospital pass and then
into the twenty twenty election, in which National were decimated.
They had to rebuild from the ashes, and Christopher Luxeen
helped them do that. He might not have the jazz hands,
but he had faith in good ministers. Let them get
(03:35):
on with their work, held them to account. What do
they do with their renewed strength? The Nats, They disembel
themselves and eat their own entrails, which makes for really
unpleasant viewing for the lefty voters. Oh you must be
thinking this is better than any Netflix drama. Right now,
(03:56):
grab the popcorn and watch it all unfold. And who
can blame you? This is an own goal of seismic proportions.
If a small group of destructive gnats are responsible for
the collapse of the center right vote and labor, the Greens,
te Maori and the Opportunity Party gets in, we should
(04:18):
make a new crime and charge those sniveling quizzlings with
the economic treason.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Well, I I like sniveling quislings. Can I vote for
that party? It sounds like one of the one of
the houses at Hogwarts and Harry Potter, doesn't it. You've
got halflepuff, You've got the sniveling quizlings. Sniggerff No, not
snigger if it's the last name of some friends of mine.
(04:45):
What's what's that one? What's that other one called? I remember? So? Yeah. Anyway,
as we all know, Luxon survived, didn't die, also stayed
as our Prime Minister. Tyler was sort of hosting a
(05:07):
bit of a response. Yes, they have to.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
The best chance they've got of winning this general election
in three months time is to absolutely almost pretend there
is no opposition. Don't even talk about them, do not
give them any airtime. If you really want to be successful,
just talk about the strengths of your coalitions, which it
is a really strong coalition. They've got a lot of
stuff over the line in the last couple of years.
Is focus on that and don't even talk about the
left lock.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
I think you're onto something there, Jason. I mean, I
always think you've got your first term if you want
to look back and give some context about why things
aren't as good as they should be, because it takes time. Yeah,
three years is kind of it, and they're dangerously close
to that now. But I think you're right. I think
once you get into the second term and if they
win it, and according to current polling it looks like
(05:50):
they're in with a good shot with their coalition partners.
But at some point you do have to talk about
what you're doing, and you've got to give people their hope.
Rather than looking back and saying it's screwed because of
these guys, you've got to start saying we're going to
fix it because of us. This is our plan. Forget
about those other guys. We've moved on. It's three years now,
and give us another three years, and we promise you
(06:11):
we're going to get to a far better place. There's
probably better messaging going for Yeah, I suppose.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I mean, it depends on how serious the damage is.
I guess, like, if you know you're in an accident,
we're not an accident. Say you're in a car crash,
you know, and a drunk driver towards the accident, and
you're paralyzed and in a wheelchair. Doesn't really matter how
(06:39):
much time goes past, that drunk driver still caused that problem,
you see what I mean. So I think some things
you can continue to blame on the previous guys to
a degree. Anyway, I'm pretty sure here there was quietly confident,
(07:02):
if not overtly confident, that Luxember's toast. So of course
then she had to come on here and explain how
she got that wrong. I suppose.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
Well, what this is going to do is it is
going to chip away at the Prime Minister for the
next three months because he is now a figure of ridicule.
Hipkins is going to take the merciless piss out of him.
The media is going to persecute him. Every single error
that he makes will be prosecuted disproportionately, and there will
be more errors, mark my word, because Luxon is now
(07:32):
a maned under extreme pressure, and people under pressure make
a lot of mistakes. Now we need to talk about
the people behind this. I mean, Chris Pink doesn't matter.
We've discussed Chris Pink. He doesn't matter. Actually it's Erica Stanford.
Now I'm not coming for Erica Stanford on this, but
Erica Stanford was the one who clearly was going to benefit.
She was the one who swam through the airport last
night looking as prime ministerial as possible and refusing to
(07:52):
say anything. She was the only contender who did not
publicly express confidence in Chris Luxing yesterday and today she
stood beside him or behind him, directly behind him actually
in a show of support. Now, all power to her.
If she wanted to take the job, she may actually
have been very good at the job. Who knows. That
is not the problem here. The problem is she didn't
(08:13):
take the job and take the nets to glory. Nobody
took the job and took the nets to glory. What
they did instead is they badly wounded their leader and
then stuck them back out there and said, now that
we've wounded you, go for it, mate, do the best
you possibly can. Now they're trying to pretend nothing happened,
and it's all, okay, that is probably why Chris Luxon
looks so defeated today, because never mind Chris Hopkins, it's
(08:35):
his own team who hurts him the most.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, I don't fully understand why you would want to
keep doing it if the people you're in charge of
don't want you to be in charge of them, or
if some of them don't. I mean I don't. I
don't want to be in charge of anything, so I
don't understand how I used to be in charge of people,
(08:57):
and it wasn't for me, so I can't really relate.
I mean I can't even be in charge of myself.
Just listen to how this podcast goes most days.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
News Talk been.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
So Andrew Dickon has seen to be in charge at
the evening show last night, and he used that platform
to sort of fire off a few shots.
Speaker 8 (09:26):
Well, Heather, Actually I got a bit uptight about that
because it's October in Auckland and there's a high chance
it's going to rain and it's going to be unpleasant,
and the venue has no seating so I can't sit
down and I had really, really really great seats. Anyway, today,
at five point forty, I'm listening to Heather to c Allen,
who's obviously seen my Facebook page where I vented about that.
(09:49):
She said, oh, some old people don't like the fact
that that concert's been moved to Western Springs Bold because
you know, there's no seats and it's outdoors and it
might rain. And I knew she was talking about me.
I'm the old person. But at the same time, Olivia
Dean made that decision and my money over a year
ago and has had my money ever since in trust
(10:11):
and it's been earning interests. And she made a contract
between me and the other twelve thousand people to do
a really cool concert under a roof in October in Auckland,
and now has changed her mind. I think she should
have done the Spark Arena show and then done a
second show at Western Springs Bowl, in my opinion, because
(10:33):
I think she signed a contract. Sure she's got bigger,
Sure she can now sell out twenty five thousand instead
of twelve thousand. I know, Well, I'm sorry, we make
these mistakes. You still would have made two million dollars
from doing the Spark Arena. Don't worry about it. Just
do another gig if you want, do two nights at
Spark Arena, but no, it's been taken over by the
Western Springs Bowl, which has been pushed by the Auckland
(10:56):
Council and they've spent two and a half million dollars
fixing up that bowl. I just wanted to vent about
that to you right now.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I think ultimately the mistake Andrew made there was buying
tickets for a concert, which is not something I ever
intend on never doing ever again. It's just such an effort,
isn't it going to a concert so much money? And
you know it is. We've covered off in this podcast
many times before. When Elton John died on stage in
(11:25):
front of me. That time it ruined it for me,
and I'll never I don't think I ever really want
to go back and go through that ever again. It
taught me that anything can happen. Really, it's a huge
risk paying out that kind of money to go to
a concert which may or may not happen, may or
(11:45):
may not be good, may or may not be at
the place you thought it was going to be. I mean,
who needs that. I'm glad I am an old fuddy
duddy like Andrew by the sounds of things, and we'll
see you back here with more of my grumpy old
man Talk Tomorrow US.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Talk Do It Been?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
For more from News Talk st B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said, b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk said, be you talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean for Thursday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Wednesday. Andrew Dickens got hold of
a radio show that's not usually his and used it
to vent about the fact that Olivia dean Concet's been moved,
(00:46):
So stand by for that. But yes, yes, yes, yes.
Most of the day yesterday I was talking about whether
or not Luxon would survive. It's funny how they term
it like that, Isn't it like? It's not like they
take him out the back and shoot him if he
if he doesn't stay as leader, it just means he
doesn't get to be prime minister anymore. Anyway, he does
(01:08):
get to be prime minister anymore. But it was kind
of up in the year when Ryan was on air yesterday.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
If the numbers are not in his favor, the writings
on the wall, he could clear the decks for the
caucus to focus on electing his replacement. I've been speaking
to National Party MPs and former MPs over the past
two weeks, because that's how long this thing has been
really dragging on. Behind the scenes. Some are furious with
Luckson's leadership, own goals, foot and mouth disease, lack of discipline.
(01:36):
There's a feeling that Key and others in the party
have been covering for Luckson's mistakes, hammering the message that
any change will mean catastrophe come polling day. Talk of
a Stanford Mitchell ticket with Bishop as finance tells you
that unlike last time, the leadership hopefuls have organized with
a viable alternative, notably excluding Nikola Willis. Anyone who tells
(01:58):
you that they know what will happen today is making
it up. As much as twenty five percent of the
caucus are set to lose their jobs on current polling
Uckson loses his today, it will be a gamble, a
roll of the dice, a massive risk if they stick
with Luxen. How can you credibly say you're unified behind
(02:21):
your leader after two spills in four months. Leaders confident
in their support don't need to call confidence votes in themselves,
and certainly not twice.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
The whole thing's been very odd. I think the oddest
thing about it is that, you know, the guy who
really hasn't managed to get any traction in the polls
is in charge of a different party on the other
side of the house, and people seem to have completely
forgotten about questioning his leadership. Another cress, What do you
(02:59):
mean you can't remember who I'm talking about? News Talk
been so when Carrie first went to air yesterday morning,
nothing had been decided, But how did she think that
it was going?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Simon Bridges was dumped, replaced by Todd Muller who retired hurt,
and then Judith Collins got the hospital pass and then
into the twenty twenty election, in which National were decimated.
They had to rebuild from the ashes, and Christopher Luxeen
helped them do that. He might not have the jazz hands,
but he had faith in good ministers. Let them get
(03:35):
on with their work, held them to account. What do
they do with their renewed strength? The Nats, They disembel
themselves and eat their own entrails, which makes for really
unpleasant viewing for the lefty voters. Oh you must be
thinking this is better than any Netflix drama. Right now,
(03:56):
grab the popcorn and watch it all unfold. And who
can blame you? This is an own goal of seismic proportions.
If a small group of destructive gnats are responsible for
the collapse of the center right vote and labor, the Greens,
te Maori and the Opportunity Party gets in, we should
(04:18):
make a new crime and charge those sniveling quizzlings with
the economic treason.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Well, I I like sniveling quislings. Can I vote for
that party? It sounds like one of the one of
the houses at Hogwarts and Harry Potter, doesn't it. You've
got halflepuff, You've got the sniveling quizlings. Sniggerff No, not
snigger if it's the last name of some friends of mine.
(04:45):
What's what's that one? What's that other one called? I remember? So? Yeah. Anyway,
as we all know, Luxon survived, didn't die, also stayed
as our Prime Minister. Tyler was sort of hosting a
(05:07):
bit of a response. Yes, they have to.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
The best chance they've got of winning this general election
in three months time is to absolutely almost pretend there
is no opposition. Don't even talk about them, do not
give them any airtime. If you really want to be successful,
just talk about the strengths of your coalitions, which it
is a really strong coalition. They've got a lot of
stuff over the line in the last couple of years.
Is focus on that and don't even talk about the
left lock.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
I think you're onto something there, Jason. I mean, I
always think you've got your first term if you want
to look back and give some context about why things
aren't as good as they should be, because it takes time. Yeah,
three years is kind of it, and they're dangerously close
to that now. But I think you're right. I think
once you get into the second term and if they
win it, and according to current polling it looks like
(05:50):
they're in with a good shot with their coalition partners.
But at some point you do have to talk about
what you're doing, and you've got to give people their hope.
Rather than looking back and saying it's screwed because of
these guys, you've got to start saying we're going to
fix it because of us. This is our plan. Forget
about those other guys. We've moved on. It's three years now,
and give us another three years, and we promise you
(06:11):
we're going to get to a far better place. There's
probably better messaging going for Yeah, I suppose.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I mean, it depends on how serious the damage is.
I guess, like, if you know you're in an accident,
we're not an accident. Say you're in a car crash,
you know, and a drunk driver towards the accident, and
you're paralyzed and in a wheelchair. Doesn't really matter how
(06:39):
much time goes past, that drunk driver still caused that problem,
you see what I mean. So I think some things
you can continue to blame on the previous guys to
a degree. Anyway, I'm pretty sure here there was quietly confident,
(07:02):
if not overtly confident, that Luxember's toast. So of course
then she had to come on here and explain how
she got that wrong. I suppose.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
Well, what this is going to do is it is
going to chip away at the Prime Minister for the
next three months because he is now a figure of ridicule.
Hipkins is going to take the merciless piss out of him.
The media is going to persecute him. Every single error
that he makes will be prosecuted disproportionately, and there will
be more errors, mark my word, because Luxon is now
(07:32):
a maned under extreme pressure, and people under pressure make
a lot of mistakes. Now we need to talk about
the people behind this. I mean, Chris Pink doesn't matter.
We've discussed Chris Pink. He doesn't matter. Actually it's Erica Stanford.
Now I'm not coming for Erica Stanford on this, but
Erica Stanford was the one who clearly was going to benefit.
She was the one who swam through the airport last
night looking as prime ministerial as possible and refusing to
(07:52):
say anything. She was the only contender who did not
publicly express confidence in Chris Luxing yesterday and today she
stood beside him or behind him, directly behind him actually
in a show of support. Now, all power to her.
If she wanted to take the job, she may actually
have been very good at the job. Who knows. That
is not the problem here. The problem is she didn't
(08:13):
take the job and take the nets to glory. Nobody
took the job and took the nets to glory. What
they did instead is they badly wounded their leader and
then stuck them back out there and said, now that
we've wounded you, go for it, mate, do the best
you possibly can. Now they're trying to pretend nothing happened,
and it's all, okay, that is probably why Chris Luxon
looks so defeated today, because never mind Chris Hopkins, it's
(08:35):
his own team who hurts him the most.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, I don't fully understand why you would want to
keep doing it if the people you're in charge of
don't want you to be in charge of them, or
if some of them don't. I mean I don't. I
don't want to be in charge of anything, so I
don't understand how I used to be in charge of people,
(08:57):
and it wasn't for me, so I can't really relate.
I mean I can't even be in charge of myself.
Just listen to how this podcast goes most days.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
News Talk been.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
So Andrew Dickon has seen to be in charge at
the evening show last night, and he used that platform
to sort of fire off a few shots.
Speaker 8 (09:26):
Well, Heather, Actually I got a bit uptight about that
because it's October in Auckland and there's a high chance
it's going to rain and it's going to be unpleasant,
and the venue has no seating so I can't sit
down and I had really, really really great seats. Anyway, today,
at five point forty, I'm listening to Heather to c Allen,
who's obviously seen my Facebook page where I vented about that.
(09:49):
She said, oh, some old people don't like the fact
that that concert's been moved to Western Springs Bold because
you know, there's no seats and it's outdoors and it
might rain. And I knew she was talking about me.
I'm the old person. But at the same time, Olivia
Dean made that decision and my money over a year
ago and has had my money ever since in trust
(10:11):
and it's been earning interests. And she made a contract
between me and the other twelve thousand people to do
a really cool concert under a roof in October in Auckland,
and now has changed her mind. I think she should
have done the Spark Arena show and then done a
second show at Western Springs Bowl, in my opinion, because
(10:33):
I think she signed a contract. Sure she's got bigger,
Sure she can now sell out twenty five thousand instead
of twelve thousand. I know, Well, I'm sorry, we make
these mistakes. You still would have made two million dollars
from doing the Spark Arena. Don't worry about it. Just
do another gig if you want, do two nights at
Spark Arena, but no, it's been taken over by the
Western Springs Bowl, which has been pushed by the Auckland
(10:56):
Council and they've spent two and a half million dollars
fixing up that bowl. I just wanted to vent about
that to you right now.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I think ultimately the mistake Andrew made there was buying
tickets for a concert, which is not something I ever
intend on never doing ever again. It's just such an effort,
isn't it going to a concert so much money? And
you know it is. We've covered off in this podcast
many times before. When Elton John died on stage in
(11:25):
front of me. That time it ruined it for me,
and I'll never I don't think I ever really want
to go back and go through that ever again. It
taught me that anything can happen. Really, it's a huge
risk paying out that kind of money to go to
a concert which may or may not happen, may or
(11:45):
may not be good, may or may not be at
the place you thought it was going to be. I mean,
who needs that. I'm glad I am an old fuddy
duddy like Andrew by the sounds of things, and we'll
see you back here with more of my grumpy old
man Talk Tomorrow US.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Talk Do It Been?
Speaker 1 (12:08):
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air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
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