May 3, 2026 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) How to Measure "Kiwi Character"/Exciting but Negative End to a Game/Marathons Can't Be Good for You/Riding Rapids, Falling Off Mountains/Touring the Best Place In the World
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean the
Weekend edition. First with yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart
and we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday, the
day is most commonly associated with the weekends. Auckland sc
scrapes through to the next bit this marathon record that
was set with the Super Shoes last week. Jack wants
(00:47):
a word on that. We've got the woman who plays
Charlie Son and the tricky bits in this movie Apex,
which is sweeping across Netflix at the moment, and Mumford
and Sons, or at least some of them. I'm not
sure if it's Mumpet or the Suns or which ones
came in as well before any of that. Act is
starting to sound more and more like New Zealand. Perse
(01:09):
what's happening here? They're not happy with how many overstays
there are. I think is it a.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Case of immigration not feeling quite right? What do you
think's broken?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Well? I think the immediate cause is that the labor
New Zealand first government campaigned on reducing immigration. They formed
a government in twenty seventeen. They led a couple hundred
thousand people in before COVID, and then when COVID came along,
all these people were stranded. So they just said, oh,
(01:39):
don't worry, you guys can have residents, no questions asked.
Now all those people are up for citizenship because it's
been five years. And meanwhile a lot of people are saying, look,
we bought into immigration policy, we support the basic idea,
we're not anti immigrant, were certainly not opposed to any
(02:00):
particular background of person. But frankly, we don't understand how
so many people of such low skill, creating so much
difficulty in the delivery of services like health and education,
managed to get into the country when in theory our
system it's so strict. I think that's why it doesn't
feel right. And the act Party is proposing that we
(02:22):
will fix what matters in immigration by saying number one,
you've got to contribute to the Kiwi character, which I
think is second to none, and it's been built up
by waves of settlement over hundreds of years. We are
a good people in New Zealand. We can fix anything
and we do what we say we're going to do.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, the Kiwi character, that's definitely objectively miserable. Right, how
much Kewi character you've got and whether you're contributed into it.
I don't like that sort of talk. Maybe I don't have.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Enough Kewi character news talk z been.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I tell you who's a Kewi character. Jason Pine. He
was talking to the coach of Augland airc yesterday after
a very exciting right for them. You got half an
hour of extra time and then the penalty shootout and
nobody was missing until the other guy's finally dead.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Where does last night rank in terms of drama and
maybe the relief that you felt afterwards, definitely.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
Right up there with you know, some of the special
moments in my coaching career. I've had a couple of
penalty shootouts before with Sydney in the Grand Final against
Perth that we that we won a couple of times.
The assistant coach as well. But that's that's definitely right
up there. Just the way the game was panned out,
they scored, you know, obviously the last free kick of
(03:47):
the game, only a couple of minutes to go, so
you know, all the drama that goes with it, the emotions,
the passion, and then obviously some great penalties as well.
Fantastic and obviously Michael comes up with one big stave
which is all we needed.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
When you're in the huddle after extra time, can you
take us inside there?
Speaker 5 (04:08):
How do you?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
How do you land on your penalty takers at that time?
Speaker 6 (04:11):
We practiced during the week. We practiced on Thursday and
someone Friday. I sort of I have a list in
my mind obviously before the game who's going to take them?
At least for the top five.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Anyway, I would be giving my head down in that situation.
I don't want to be taking any of those caps.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Ever.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
It's such a negative way for a game do end,
isn't it? But somebody somebody cocking up. It's not really
somebody very successful. It's somebody missing that that. Yeah, I
don't like it.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Call me old fashioned.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
People seem to love it.
Speaker 7 (04:50):
I don't love it.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Talk s right. We're just going to stay on sport.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
For a bit longer. If running on Eddie Gass's super shoes,
bionic shoes.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Whatever they do, is that sport.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
It took forty two thousand, nine hundred and seven nine
days or three billion, seven hundred and thirteen million, three
hundred and eighty five thousand, six hundred seconds. For the
second sub two hour time, it took eleven seconds, having
(05:27):
run a time that for many was unthinkable just two
hours earlier, having paced the vast majority of the course
with the London Marathon, defending champion, yumof Gajulture ran across
the finish line eleven seconds later, the fastest debut in
marathon history, a time that would have shattered the world record,
and yet only good enough for silver. Sometimes proving yourself
(05:50):
wrong still means losing the race. Despite it all though
Youumouth seemed positively philosophical. I'm not upset, he said, I'm
not angry. I'm very very happy because I broke two hours.
It was a striking comment from a competitor forever condemned
(06:11):
to the history books as the buzz Aldron of marathon running.
And honestly, I cannot say I would have been so gracious.
And perhaps that is the lesson for all of us
about the benchmarks against which we compare ourselves and what
appeared from the outside to be the ultimate moment of
sporting cruelty. Umuth Kajulta chose to compare himself to the
(06:37):
clock instead of the man. He's the one running a
sub too.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Do you reckon people should run marathons. I'm just it
doesn't seem like a healthy thing to do. Really, it
seems very agree I'm against it. I'm sorry, I'm coming
out against it. I don't care how clever issues are.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Right, I am.
Speaker 8 (07:03):
Not.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Just me.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Give me some manager that sat next to me on
the couch and we watched Apex the Night quite sort
of edge of your seat kind of thriller, and the
whole time you're thinking, how did she Cheri's theron? How
did they talk her into doing all that stuff? Of
(07:24):
course she didn't do all that stuff. Luca Jones Yxley
did a lot of it. She was the stunt woman.
Speaker 9 (07:31):
How did you bing Charlie's Throron's stunt double? Come about?
Speaker 8 (07:37):
Very randomly? Actually, I just received a text from a
friend down to the South Island and he called me
and said he's been doing a bunch of water safety
on some films and that this film had approached him
and they needed a kayak double for Charlie's Theron, And yeah,
it kind of went from there. I didn't believe that
(07:59):
it was actually going to come to anything. I thought,
you know, it sounded more like an April fool's joke
than something that was actually real. But yeah, in January,
River Mutton, who was also her double, and I were
on a plane to the South Island to begin filming.
Speaker 9 (08:15):
The Whitewater scenes. A lot of them filmed here in
New Zealand. The film was sort of set in Australia,
but it was so obvious from the you know, from
the flora and things, you know, you could tell it
was in New Zealand. But my understanding is that some
of those locations aren't easily accessible had you paddled them before.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
I hadn't. But they're really famous rivers in the whitewater world.
And it was actually a buck at kchecked off so
many kind of dream goals throughout this experience, and one
of them was paddling on these incredible West Coast rivers
and some of them, to get into paddle you'd have
to carry your kayakin for you know, ten hours and
(08:55):
really work for these rapids. But we got helicoptered in
and it was pretty bougie really.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I don't think there was anything boogie about it. I
think she's really I didn't play there. If you watch them,
you'll be gobsmacked by some of the stuff that goes
on on rock faces and rapids with some amazing sequences.
I hadn't quite clocked that it wasn't all filmed in Australia.
I did wonder sometimes how they managed to find so
(09:27):
many raging rivers. I wasn't aware that there were a
lot of raging rivers in Australia. But kind of ruined
it now. I mean, you know, good on us, but
having cool places to film a movie, but you're like,
the magic's gone now that I know that Ad was
a stunt woman all the time, and the most of
(09:48):
it was just down the.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Road, news talk ze been Mumford and sons.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Jeez, they were huge when they when they first arrived
on the scene, and I think then they sort of
went through that thing that a lot of bands that
you know, explode onto the scene quickly, then people immediately
get sick of them and start making one of them
for a bird, and then then what happens, Well, then
some of them just end up and then the news
(10:14):
talks the studio talking to check.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Ted, Dwayne and Ben love it from Month and Sons
with us this morning.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Killed A good morning guys.
Speaker 9 (10:23):
Thank you much, thanks for having us on.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
I feel like.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Forgot what our names sound like an ak accent.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Can you give me your impression of what your names
sound like an a Kiwi accent.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
What I just heard was Tied and Bean.
Speaker 10 (10:39):
Always being Ben because it sounds because we say Ben.
But when we got here the first time, everyone was
calling Ben Ben and I was delighted. I thought that
was really funny. But now I'm now I'm tied.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Forgot.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Yeah, imagine for a moment that you're not speaking to
a New Zealand audience. How do how was our accent perceived?
Do you?
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Is it? You know?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Do you sort of favorably?
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Favorably? But do you see us as being sophisticated? Not really?
Speaker 7 (11:08):
Oh yeah, yeah, sophisticates. I think you have a lot
going for, like the brand of New Zealands, so the
accent kind of represents New.
Speaker 10 (11:16):
Zealans rather than the other. YEA associations are all very positive.
I think it's quite sharp and quite relaxed.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
I think you guys might be winning the the world's
top trump cards right now. I think everything, just everything,
I think I think everyone outside of New Zealands thinks
that New Zealand's the best place in the world.
Speaker 10 (11:36):
Get I think I think it is. We've been here
about an hour and we're like, yeah, this is steels
pretty good.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
No wonder they shot that Australian movie here. It's the
big place in the world. Where As are you going
to go? I am a glen hat reporting live from
the best place in the world. There won't be a
week in edition next week. I'm off on holidays for
a while, but don't worry. I'll be bet with a
normal one tomorrow.
Speaker 10 (12:03):
Then.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
For more from Newstalk set b listen live on air
or online, and keep our shows with you wherever you
go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean the
Weekend edition. First with yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart
and we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday, the
day is most commonly associated with the weekends. Auckland sc
scrapes through to the next bit this marathon record that
was set with the Super Shoes last week. Jack wants
(00:47):
a word on that. We've got the woman who plays
Charlie Son and the tricky bits in this movie Apex,
which is sweeping across Netflix at the moment, and Mumford
and Sons, or at least some of them. I'm not
sure if it's Mumpet or the Suns or which ones
came in as well before any of that. Act is
starting to sound more and more like New Zealand. Perse
(01:09):
what's happening here? They're not happy with how many overstays
there are. I think is it a.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Case of immigration not feeling quite right? What do you
think's broken?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Well? I think the immediate cause is that the labor
New Zealand first government campaigned on reducing immigration. They formed
a government in twenty seventeen. They led a couple hundred
thousand people in before COVID, and then when COVID came along,
all these people were stranded. So they just said, oh,
(01:39):
don't worry, you guys can have residents, no questions asked.
Now all those people are up for citizenship because it's
been five years. And meanwhile a lot of people are saying, look,
we bought into immigration policy, we support the basic idea,
we're not anti immigrant, were certainly not opposed to any
(02:00):
particular background of person. But frankly, we don't understand how
so many people of such low skill, creating so much
difficulty in the delivery of services like health and education,
managed to get into the country when in theory our
system it's so strict. I think that's why it doesn't
feel right. And the act Party is proposing that we
(02:22):
will fix what matters in immigration by saying number one,
you've got to contribute to the Kiwi character, which I
think is second to none, and it's been built up
by waves of settlement over hundreds of years. We are
a good people in New Zealand. We can fix anything
and we do what we say we're going to do.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, the Kiwi character, that's definitely objectively miserable. Right, how
much Kewi character you've got and whether you're contributed into it.
I don't like that sort of talk. Maybe I don't have.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Enough Kewi character news talk z been.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I tell you who's a Kewi character. Jason Pine. He
was talking to the coach of Augland airc yesterday after
a very exciting right for them. You got half an
hour of extra time and then the penalty shootout and
nobody was missing until the other guy's finally dead.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Where does last night rank in terms of drama and
maybe the relief that you felt afterwards, definitely.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
Right up there with you know, some of the special
moments in my coaching career. I've had a couple of
penalty shootouts before with Sydney in the Grand Final against
Perth that we that we won a couple of times.
The assistant coach as well. But that's that's definitely right
up there. Just the way the game was panned out,
they scored, you know, obviously the last free kick of
(03:47):
the game, only a couple of minutes to go, so
you know, all the drama that goes with it, the emotions,
the passion, and then obviously some great penalties as well.
Fantastic and obviously Michael comes up with one big stave
which is all we needed.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
When you're in the huddle after extra time, can you
take us inside there?
Speaker 5 (04:08):
How do you?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
How do you land on your penalty takers at that time?
Speaker 6 (04:11):
We practiced during the week. We practiced on Thursday and
someone Friday. I sort of I have a list in
my mind obviously before the game who's going to take them?
At least for the top five.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Anyway, I would be giving my head down in that situation.
I don't want to be taking any of those caps.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Ever.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
It's such a negative way for a game do end,
isn't it? But somebody somebody cocking up. It's not really
somebody very successful. It's somebody missing that that. Yeah, I
don't like it.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Call me old fashioned.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
People seem to love it.
Speaker 7 (04:50):
I don't love it.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Talk s right. We're just going to stay on sport.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
For a bit longer. If running on Eddie Gass's super shoes,
bionic shoes.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Whatever they do, is that sport.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
It took forty two thousand, nine hundred and seven nine
days or three billion, seven hundred and thirteen million, three
hundred and eighty five thousand, six hundred seconds. For the
second sub two hour time, it took eleven seconds, having
(05:27):
run a time that for many was unthinkable just two
hours earlier, having paced the vast majority of the course
with the London Marathon, defending champion, yumof Gajulture ran across
the finish line eleven seconds later, the fastest debut in
marathon history, a time that would have shattered the world record,
and yet only good enough for silver. Sometimes proving yourself
(05:50):
wrong still means losing the race. Despite it all though
Youumouth seemed positively philosophical. I'm not upset, he said, I'm
not angry. I'm very very happy because I broke two hours.
It was a striking comment from a competitor forever condemned
(06:11):
to the history books as the buzz Aldron of marathon running.
And honestly, I cannot say I would have been so gracious.
And perhaps that is the lesson for all of us
about the benchmarks against which we compare ourselves and what
appeared from the outside to be the ultimate moment of
sporting cruelty. Umuth Kajulta chose to compare himself to the
(06:37):
clock instead of the man. He's the one running a
sub too.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Do you reckon people should run marathons. I'm just it
doesn't seem like a healthy thing to do. Really, it
seems very agree I'm against it. I'm sorry, I'm coming
out against it. I don't care how clever issues are.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Right, I am.
Speaker 8 (07:03):
Not.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Just me.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Give me some manager that sat next to me on
the couch and we watched Apex the Night quite sort
of edge of your seat kind of thriller, and the
whole time you're thinking, how did she Cheri's theron? How
did they talk her into doing all that stuff? Of
(07:24):
course she didn't do all that stuff. Luca Jones Yxley
did a lot of it. She was the stunt woman.
Speaker 9 (07:31):
How did you bing Charlie's Throron's stunt double? Come about?
Speaker 8 (07:37):
Very randomly? Actually, I just received a text from a
friend down to the South Island and he called me
and said he's been doing a bunch of water safety
on some films and that this film had approached him
and they needed a kayak double for Charlie's Theron, And yeah,
it kind of went from there. I didn't believe that
(07:59):
it was actually going to come to anything. I thought,
you know, it sounded more like an April fool's joke
than something that was actually real. But yeah, in January,
River Mutton, who was also her double, and I were
on a plane to the South Island to begin filming.
Speaker 9 (08:15):
The Whitewater scenes. A lot of them filmed here in
New Zealand. The film was sort of set in Australia,
but it was so obvious from the you know, from
the flora and things, you know, you could tell it
was in New Zealand. But my understanding is that some
of those locations aren't easily accessible had you paddled them before.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
I hadn't. But they're really famous rivers in the whitewater world.
And it was actually a buck at kchecked off so
many kind of dream goals throughout this experience, and one
of them was paddling on these incredible West Coast rivers
and some of them, to get into paddle you'd have
to carry your kayakin for you know, ten hours and
(08:55):
really work for these rapids. But we got helicoptered in
and it was pretty bougie really.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I don't think there was anything boogie about it. I
think she's really I didn't play there. If you watch them,
you'll be gobsmacked by some of the stuff that goes
on on rock faces and rapids with some amazing sequences.
I hadn't quite clocked that it wasn't all filmed in Australia.
I did wonder sometimes how they managed to find so
(09:27):
many raging rivers. I wasn't aware that there were a
lot of raging rivers in Australia. But kind of ruined
it now. I mean, you know, good on us, but
having cool places to film a movie, but you're like,
the magic's gone now that I know that Ad was
a stunt woman all the time, and the most of
(09:48):
it was just down the.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Road, news talk ze been Mumford and sons.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Jeez, they were huge when they when they first arrived
on the scene, and I think then they sort of
went through that thing that a lot of bands that
you know, explode onto the scene quickly, then people immediately
get sick of them and start making one of them
for a bird, and then then what happens, Well, then
some of them just end up and then the news
(10:14):
talks the studio talking to check.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Ted, Dwayne and Ben love it from Month and Sons
with us this morning.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Killed A good morning guys.
Speaker 9 (10:23):
Thank you much, thanks for having us on.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
I feel like.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Forgot what our names sound like an ak accent.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Can you give me your impression of what your names
sound like an a Kiwi accent.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
What I just heard was Tied and Bean.
Speaker 10 (10:39):
Always being Ben because it sounds because we say Ben.
But when we got here the first time, everyone was
calling Ben Ben and I was delighted. I thought that
was really funny. But now I'm now I'm tied.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Forgot.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Yeah, imagine for a moment that you're not speaking to
a New Zealand audience. How do how was our accent perceived?
Do you?
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Is it? You know?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Do you sort of favorably?
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Favorably? But do you see us as being sophisticated? Not really?
Speaker 7 (11:08):
Oh yeah, yeah, sophisticates. I think you have a lot
going for, like the brand of New Zealands, so the
accent kind of represents New.
Speaker 10 (11:16):
Zealans rather than the other. YEA associations are all very positive.
I think it's quite sharp and quite relaxed.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
I think you guys might be winning the the world's
top trump cards right now. I think everything, just everything,
I think I think everyone outside of New Zealands thinks
that New Zealand's the best place in the world.
Speaker 10 (11:36):
Get I think I think it is. We've been here
about an hour and we're like, yeah, this is steels
pretty good.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
No wonder they shot that Australian movie here. It's the
big place in the world. Where As are you going
to go? I am a glen hat reporting live from
the best place in the world. There won't be a
week in edition next week. I'm off on holidays for
a while, but don't worry. I'll be bet with a
normal one tomorrow.
Speaker 10 (12:03):
Then.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
For more from Newstalk set b listen live on air
or online, and keep our shows with you wherever you
go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
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