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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello mundutiful beanies and welcome for the bean for Friday,
first of the year. Today's news, I am Glen Hart
and me are looking back at Thursday. So big announcement
from trade me. The success fees are Stromburger, which you
might immediately think.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Is well, that's weird. How are they going to make
any money now?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Anyway, we'll get into this shortly because a lot of
people a days we don't understand how trading works at all.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
The seascape is I don't know what's going to happen
with it now A.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Very tall white elephant in Auckland and solar power and
wind and weather.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
And Matt and Tyler. What a combination.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
But before any of that are the primary teachers negotiations.
It's not about the pay. It's never about the pay.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
But if you are a union member, do you feel
that your delegates do right by you? Are you getting
value for money from the dues that are deducted from
your pay every month or every two weeks? When you
when you look at this it just seems so old fashioned.
(01:38):
And I totally get that unions are there for people
who don't have a voice, who can't speak up for themselves,
who haven't got the bargaining power. But surely articulate, intelligent, capable,
self possessed teachers would be able to bargain their own
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pay and conditions. Why would you need a union? Why
would you need a union delegate to do it for you?
And I guess the same goes for it. I don't
even know who's the big unions anymore. I think you've
got the ones for the cleaner's home help. They do
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a good job because a lot of those people would
be wouldn't be in the position to throw their weight
around and demand better pay and conditions. So good if
you're doing it on their behalf. But seriously, unions are
going to negotiate themselves out of existence soon. They're halfway
there already.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I try so hard.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
To be the devil's advocate here at New Talks of
V sometimes.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Because obviously.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
The kind of person who hosts a radio show at
News Talks of V is usually pretty capable of speaking
out for themselves and doing things like negotiating contracts and
stuff like that, whereas that it doesn't necessarily apply for
a lot of people. But I do kind of feel
like the kind of person who I don't know has
a base level of general knowledge and has to stand
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up in front of a class full of kids every day.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I wouldn't have thought that a shrinking violet. Generally speaking. Anyway,
we'll see what happens news talk has it been.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I really had to be Devil's advocate with this one,
because if there's one thing that has trade me getting
rid of their success fee story proved to me yesterday
is that the news talks of these posts have no
idea how trade me actually works.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
I will never use trade me for that again. By
the time I'd taken the photos and then put the
ads up, then sold the things, then box them up,
then marched them down to the post shop, then dispatched
them to bloody Sedden, and then gone back to the
buyer to tell them the cost of the postage, it
wasn't worth my while, it was way too much admin,
but especially when I saw how little money I was
actually getting for all of that effort. After trade me
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had taken out an eight percent success fee and then
two percent for using their ping payment service, which they own,
and then about six dollars just for listing the item
in a decent way. There wasn't actually that much left.
If you're selling something for about fifty bucks, you've lost
eleven of that to them, as about twenty percent of it.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
And most of the.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Stuff I sold sold for a song, and some of
the stuff I could just couldn't sell at all. Maybe
part of the problem is that you don't have to
go to trade me anymore to get something for a
good price. It is now the age of the cheap
shop that is actually still quite cool, because why would
you spend one hundred bucks on a second hand breast
pump when you can just go down to kmart and
buy a decent one for forty five dollars. And if
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that's the money I'm now getting, I may as well
just give my stuff to my friend who's just had
a baby instead of spending the admin on collecting a
little bit of money for myself. I just wonder if,
with Facebook, Facebook's marketplace being free for buyers and sellers
and Kmart being affordable and reasonably cool, the age of
buying other people's second hands on trade me is coming
to an end.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I don't understand. Heather got yourself into.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Quite a situation there with the photos and post shop
and all the rest of it. Okay, she knows that
Trade me. He's got a very good integrated service. When
it comes to couriers. You can figure all that out
ahead of time. You can quote people how much the
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postage is going to be ahead of time. They know
ahead of time that's what they pay for, you know,
when they buy, and the courier will come and pick
it up right from your door, no post shop required.
And it's actually, in my experience, it works out cheaper
than trying to do it yourself in terms of.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Couriers, because you've got that wrong us talk Zibbin.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Thankfully, I think Marcus, although he sort of makes out
that he doesn't understand it, it sounds like he does
understand it a.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Bit more because the hussle for me for trade me,
right is I buy something that I don't really need.
Although I'm not a hoarder, but there's specific things I
buy and if there's no ping, I don't do phone banking,
so I've got to say to Vanessa, can you pay this?
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And normally I've waited four or five days before I've
got the conversation around and say, oh, could you pay
for this? And by that stage I'm getting angry emails
and I'm getting bad feedback. So even though I say
I love trade me for me, it's always if it
is stress Yeah, that paying is stressful. So now you
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just push ping and it's paid. I can't believe that.
I'm so excited about that. So anyway, so trade Me
is back, and I hope it's going to get more listening,
and hopefully it's going to be very marketplace, because I
hate marketplace. There's always hard to put out where you
live and put that big circle around it looks like
a radiation shadow because you know, I can only put
it in bluffing. And he goes as far as just
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out of christ Church. So if I'm looking for things
like trampolines for the kids and only go as far
as sort of Reguura and it's not where the great
trampolines are, or say, and then you say you live
somewhere else. But anyway, so the good newsers that trade
mes back and hopefully that works for them. I don't
know how trade makes their money, but you know it
was worth a billion dollars, wasn't when it sold twenty
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years ago. But what I presume is there's advertisements around
things too, but anyway they are back. I just buy
secondhand stuff. That's what I'm about, and love it.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
It's interestingly how many people think that trade means in
some kind of serious trouble, and that's why they've eliminated
the success fee. I tend to think the opposite. I
tend to think that they're that you know, they are
getting a cut of ping obviously, that's you know, how
you pay for things just using your credit card, and
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I guess they get a cut of the after pay
as well, which they offer. I'm assuming they get a
cut of the curious service stuff that I was talking
about before. There's a lot of ways that they're making
money apart from this test fees, which is why I
assume they've gone, oh, well, we can probably make up
the shortfall bay charging the buyers a little bit more
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that they probably won't even notice, and do it that
way and therefore get more listings. That's my take. I've
probably got it completely wrong. I'm usually wrong about most things,
just to ask anybody who knows me.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
But Yeah, that's how I see it.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Use your city.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
How about this massive tall building in the middle of
Auckland that is not going to be completed? Now, how
can that happen?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
You know?
Speaker 7 (08:45):
They say cranes in the sky is quite a good
sign of growth in a city. Well, not in Auckland,
not at seascape meant to be the city's In fact,
there's country's tallest tower, one hundred and seven eight hundred
and eighty seven, almost one hundred and ninety meters high.
It is supposed to be beautiful, expansive views over the water,
fifty two stories, a statement building for a city on
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the move, That's what we would tell. But for two
years we've had this construction stopped, half finished, beams and
nuts and bolts exposed, and yesterday the Chinese outfit developing
it folds completely. Gonskis So what happens to this half
cooked tower down by the wolf it's kind of hard
to miss. You'll see it, imagine the skytower, but with
scaffolding all around it.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
For a year.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
Whatever happens needs to happen fast. Auckland is getting its
mojo back. We've been talking about this for a while.
The politicians are talking about it, but it is happening.
I've been down there and seen it. You've got icc
you've got your CRL stations, the shops, Ponsonby Viaduct waterfront
absolutely humming and heaving at the moment. There's a real
buzz in the year out there, and it is happening.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
It is real.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
Someone out there will be surely eyeing a bargain here.
Surely they will answer our prayers. Get up there, finish
the job, polish that turret, and help make the city
smile and shine.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
There's nothing worse than a derilic half finished building, I think,
And I don't know if you've been to Raratiga, but
there's a that we're building a resort there and then
it got half finished and then never got completed, and
you'd go past it. Oh that's a shame, And then
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a few years later you might be back there and
it still was there.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Of course, because.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Nobody, that's the thing it should Whose job is it
to take these things away? Then they're only very it's
very depressing.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
News talk.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Has it been right, funny weather?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I feel like it hasn't been that nice, settled, warm,
fine weather that we often.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Get at this time of the year.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
It's been very changeable. Old one day, hot the next.
Why am I talking about the weather?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Just because that's what they were talking about on the
Afternoon Show yesterday. I think they were trying to talk
about soul the power, but really they were just talking
about the weather.
Speaker 8 (11:01):
It's an article today saying a lot of people are
having problems with their soul, are set up, that the
promises made haven't come to fruition.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Is that yours?
Speaker 9 (11:08):
Well, See, I've got to excuse talking about christ Church
because I've never lived there. A big fan in the city,
go there a lot, but.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I've never lived there.
Speaker 9 (11:13):
Beautiful, and I said, is it the northwester That?
Speaker 8 (11:18):
Hang a minute, No, You asked what it was, and
I said it was the Northeaster And we started to
talk about the North Easter at length.
Speaker 9 (11:25):
Yeah, the Northeast is the normal sea breeze, but the
northwester drives you crazy in christ Church.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
Yeah, I'm getting a lot.
Speaker 9 (11:31):
Is that because it's spent a lot of time traveling
over the plains.
Speaker 8 (11:35):
You're correct, So it comes from the mountains and then
smashes into the city and then people lose their collective mind.
Speaker 9 (11:42):
Right, The south Easter is the wind you don't love
in Dunedin.
Speaker 8 (11:45):
Yeah, but there's a lot of ticks saying Tyler, don't
you ever come back to christ Church and fear cop
as well?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Did Tyler actually have a live in christ Church?
Speaker 9 (11:53):
It's the northwest wind.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
A fair question to ask.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
Yeah, yeah, I know that hurts very so I can
never recover from that one.
Speaker 9 (12:00):
No your winds, Tyler, No exactly.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call.
Speaker 9 (12:06):
The six is do you really need sunshine hours? They
are building a huge solar farm right here in Ruakaka,
but we don't get a lot of sunshine here over
cast all of the time and rains a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Again, I'm not sure that people sort of fully understand
how solar power works. I don't think you need blazing
sunshine twenty four hours a day to keep things charged up.
When I might have that again, I might have that role.
I just know, like, for example, I've got a solar
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powered computer keyboard and I've never taken it outside and
it's still working.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
So just saying.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I am glad that that's that's how that's physics daily.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Today, I'll see, is it physics? Probably that's probably chemistry
or something like that. See, I know nothing.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I'll probably get a little bit stupid to still over
the weekend and moved back with you with more ignorant
comments on Mondays.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
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