January 27, 2026 • 11 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Tuesday on Newstalk ZB) Even When We Don't Want Them To/Next Up for the Poison Chalice/That About Wraps it Up for Letters/Go Gold, Baby!
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk, said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk, sed B Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glenn Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday, and all the hosts were
back in their right shows and the right places, which
unfortunately means that some of them haven't had to say
about things that other hosts have already had to say about.
(00:44):
So there's a bit of that today. So you know,
the situation with the all Blacks coaching and all that.
I want to get into that this ongoing drawn out
saga of post shops closing down. People are still coming
to terms with that. And then gold has never been
more valuable, which is an odd thing, isn't it. But yes, yes, yes, yes,
(01:09):
let's talk about the mount landslide and landslides generally, and
you know what to do? Can you do anything gradually?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Any new projects will be built on higher, safer ground,
away from the severe flood risk, and there'll be plans
for a new hub and infrastructure to encourage gradual relocation
over generations. There's also a proposal to shift Kumiu's town
center over a number of years. That was tabled by
(01:39):
the Auckland Council around about this time last year. A
proposal to shift Kumiu and Huapai area because it has
a repeated history of flooding. And yes, you can pay
the higher insurance rates and you can rebuild and do
it again and again and again, but why would you
(02:00):
if there is an alternative? Infrastructure proposals are also being
put forward, but a number of commune leaders are saying
it's pointless. It's putting your finger in the dike. The
better option is to concede defeat and build somewhere else. Certainly,
(02:21):
there are ways to mitigate damage from flooding and landslips.
There are ways of predicting which areas are more prone
to flooding and landslips. Technology is improving all the time
in some instances, though, do we just need to acknowledge
that we are no match for the power of nature,
concede defeat and step away.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah. I think, as I said either on this podcast
or my other very successful podcast, The Rewrap yesterday, I
think sometimes bad stuff happens, and although we want to
stop bad stuff, happening. Ever, there's only so much you
can do, and it's everybody just lives in a bubble
for the rest of their lives. Maybe we'll get promises
(03:05):
of bubbles and therefore becoming eleat can who knows.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
News talk Zeth been.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, so that was Kerry back on deck. If she
looked a little sort of blinking like should come out
of hibernation back in the studio yesterday, it was nice
to see here. Another person who was back on deck
yesterday was Heather Actually wanted to have her say on
the situation with the All Blacks and New Zealand Rugby.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Generally seems to me Vern Cotta and Joe Schmidt might
be doing exactly the right thing by ruling themselves out
of contention for the All Blacks coaching job, because that
has got to be in a particularly high risk job
at the moment, don't you think, not only because en
z has mucked around with the last two people who
were in the job. First they tried to fire Fozzy
and then they actually did fire Raser. And actually, while
we're on the subject of Razor, I'm not going to
(03:54):
grumble about razor sacking now, you know, and I know
I'm a Raisor fangirl, but from what I've read about
his tenure, even before he was fired, it was clear
that things were going a little bit wonky in there.
I mean most obviously because he wasn't actually doing the
coachingzz he who was leaving that to his assistant. He
was more like some sort of a motivational guidance counselor
for the players. And then you had the assistance leaving,
and then you had the players unhappy, and then you
(04:15):
had the results, which were actually worse when you watched
the games than they actually were on paper. We will
never know if Raser would have turned it around and
become a legend if he kept the job, but on
the available evidence, it's hard to argue that he should
have stayed. Hey, but after the sacking, who would want
the job? Because, as I say, not just because the
bosses cannot be trusted to back you, just ask Fozzy
and Raiser. But now, because you and I the public
(04:37):
are primed to expect results immediately. We have just been
told the next coach needs to hit the ground running
because there is a World Cup to win now. If
the coach doesn't perform immediately, the public is going to
expect the same thing to happen to this coach as
has happened to the last two, which is, if you
don't perform, you get sacked. So it seems to me
Joe and Werner probably wise to steer clear.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
So here there seems to be suggesting that we've got
unrealistic expectations of the all Blacks these days. But that's
I think we We've always had unrealistic expectations, haven't we,
And sometimes they met those unrealistic expectations. Not for a
long time, though. The reality check seems to be taking
(05:18):
a long time to settle.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Use talks right.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
So.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Nobody sends letters anymore. I think there seems to be
something that a lot of people seem to be struggling
to come to terms with. I mean, on the afternoon show,
where they can come to terms with it or.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Not this is depressing text, No, they don't. They need
to balance the box costs, rent, salaries versus income. In
forty years time, those who wanted to be face to
face will be either pushing daisies or sitting steering at
a window. Move on, move out ted. That's depressing, says,
that's the future that we want that we're all just
everything's online.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
You don't have to leave the house.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
We never communicate with other humans. We just sit steering
into screens at the behest of whoever grabs our attention. Next.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
What a cold dystopian version of the society. I hope
that never comes to pass. I hope people push back
on that sort of stuff. I mean, you know, because
we are increasingly an online society, and I don't know
if that's good for the collective mental wellbeing of humanity.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
It's terrible for it.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
I mean, every single study you ever have shows that
the best thing for happiness is face to face contact
between other humans. Every part of it you remove. I'm
sure I understand that maybe post offices they may not
be the front line of it. Maybe as a we're
pretty broke country at the moment. We can't afford for
the post office to be losing money. Maybe, but the
world is a better place, I mean, a purely financial decision, Sure,
(06:54):
maybe post office would go. But there's no doubt that
the world is a worse place when there's least opportunities
for people to communicate face to face. This Texas is
only morons can't do it online.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
Shots fire.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, me texting that, but I tend to support that view.
I don't know really what why people are so sentimental
about post shops, because my only real experience with them
is standing in a queue. And I think from the
(07:29):
less time we spend standing in queues for better off everybody,
isn't they? Surely? Of course Marcus has taken this line
of reasoning a little bit further, and he's seen the
riding on the wall. But basically, nobody will need a
letter box anymore, because then what's going to happen.
Speaker 8 (07:48):
I didn't see that. You don't see that YouTube guy,
that guy that makes them blopes, You could do one
hundred and three minutes. You've never seen a guy fold
as quick in a way he's making him blopes. Here's
one hundred and three minutes, Marcus, Why buy new stemps
(08:09):
when you can reuse a lot of the old ones
on envelopes sent to you from other's right, they don't
frank them anymore. They've given up, they really have. I
reckon in five years time, no one's going to have
a litter box. There's going to be letter boxes museums.
We're going to take our children there to show them
what we used to do. So you want to get
(08:30):
ahead of the If you want to get ahead of
the game, start collecting letterboxes. This is a raw one.
This is a block of flats. Be fascinating.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I think he's completely wrong about that. What I see
is a trend with letter boxes is they're actually getting
bigger and more substantial because of course people want their
parcels delivered into them safely, and there's been some amazing
advances and you know, parcel drop technology in your letter box.
So yeah, he's got their one wrong. You can't be
(09:02):
right all the time, even when your mark US news
talk has it been, So let's finish it was a
little quick check on the price of gold, you know
how I like to do that. The of the podcasts
Goldman Sachs.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
They were saying yesterday it'll hit five four hundred by
the end of this year. But at this rate that
might be underselling it too, don't you reckon? Honestly makes
you want to rip your wedding ring off your earrings
and flog them, get them on trade me asat one
thing is for sure, these prices gold diggers, the prospectors,
That is not the sort Cargne things about will be
(09:36):
lining up to get the stuff out of the ground
quicker than you can say fast track. Every time the
price goes up, so too does the value of those projects.
The quicker that they can get up and running in
places like Otago and Ye, which has been given the
fast track, by the way, the better the return for
the investors. There's only around did you know this, two
hundred thousand tons of gold that's ever been mined, mostly
(10:00):
this has happened since nineteen fifty. It's enough to fill
two or three Olympic sized swimming pools, fascinating a every goal,
old bar and a vault, every wedding ring, every necklace
melted down. Doesn't actually amount to that much, does it?
And they reckon there's about sixty four thousand tons remaining
underground that's accessible to mine, and that makes this rare
(10:22):
and precious metal, which will surely become more precious as
the world becomes more uncertain.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I was interested to hear Trump the other day say
that rare earths aren't that rare, So we've been calling
those the wrong name. Yeah, I don't know what's going on.
I need to I don't have any gold. I'm starting
(10:50):
to feel like I should have got into gold. How
much gold have you got much? I am a green
heart that has been used towards you been. We'll see
you back here again tomorrow. We don't worry. I'm across
all the markets, all the tunes. I'll have that for you.
Minute five minutes News Talking Talking z Bean.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
For more from News Talk sed B, listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk, said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk, sed B Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glenn Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday, and all the hosts were
back in their right shows and the right places, which
unfortunately means that some of them haven't had to say
about things that other hosts have already had to say about.
(00:44):
So there's a bit of that today. So you know,
the situation with the all Blacks coaching and all that.
I want to get into that this ongoing drawn out
saga of post shops closing down. People are still coming
to terms with that. And then gold has never been
more valuable, which is an odd thing, isn't it. But yes, yes, yes, yes,
(01:09):
let's talk about the mount landslide and landslides generally, and
you know what to do? Can you do anything gradually?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Any new projects will be built on higher, safer ground,
away from the severe flood risk, and there'll be plans
for a new hub and infrastructure to encourage gradual relocation
over generations. There's also a proposal to shift Kumiu's town
center over a number of years. That was tabled by
(01:39):
the Auckland Council around about this time last year. A
proposal to shift Kumiu and Huapai area because it has
a repeated history of flooding. And yes, you can pay
the higher insurance rates and you can rebuild and do
it again and again and again, but why would you
(02:00):
if there is an alternative? Infrastructure proposals are also being
put forward, but a number of commune leaders are saying
it's pointless. It's putting your finger in the dike. The
better option is to concede defeat and build somewhere else. Certainly,
(02:21):
there are ways to mitigate damage from flooding and landslips.
There are ways of predicting which areas are more prone
to flooding and landslips. Technology is improving all the time
in some instances, though, do we just need to acknowledge
that we are no match for the power of nature,
concede defeat and step away.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah. I think, as I said either on this podcast
or my other very successful podcast, The Rewrap yesterday, I
think sometimes bad stuff happens, and although we want to
stop bad stuff, happening. Ever, there's only so much you
can do, and it's everybody just lives in a bubble
for the rest of their lives. Maybe we'll get promises
(03:05):
of bubbles and therefore becoming eleat can who knows.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
News talk Zeth been.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, so that was Kerry back on deck. If she
looked a little sort of blinking like should come out
of hibernation back in the studio yesterday, it was nice
to see here. Another person who was back on deck
yesterday was Heather Actually wanted to have her say on
the situation with the All Blacks and New Zealand Rugby.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Generally seems to me Vern Cotta and Joe Schmidt might
be doing exactly the right thing by ruling themselves out
of contention for the All Blacks coaching job, because that
has got to be in a particularly high risk job
at the moment, don't you think, not only because en
z has mucked around with the last two people who
were in the job. First they tried to fire Fozzy
and then they actually did fire Raser. And actually, while
we're on the subject of Razor, I'm not going to
(03:54):
grumble about razor sacking now, you know, and I know
I'm a Raisor fangirl, but from what I've read about
his tenure, even before he was fired, it was clear
that things were going a little bit wonky in there.
I mean most obviously because he wasn't actually doing the
coachingzz he who was leaving that to his assistant. He
was more like some sort of a motivational guidance counselor
for the players. And then you had the assistance leaving,
and then you had the players unhappy, and then you
(04:15):
had the results, which were actually worse when you watched
the games than they actually were on paper. We will
never know if Raser would have turned it around and
become a legend if he kept the job, but on
the available evidence, it's hard to argue that he should
have stayed. Hey, but after the sacking, who would want
the job? Because, as I say, not just because the
bosses cannot be trusted to back you, just ask Fozzy
and Raiser. But now, because you and I the public
(04:37):
are primed to expect results immediately. We have just been
told the next coach needs to hit the ground running
because there is a World Cup to win now. If
the coach doesn't perform immediately, the public is going to
expect the same thing to happen to this coach as
has happened to the last two, which is, if you
don't perform, you get sacked. So it seems to me
Joe and Werner probably wise to steer clear.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
So here there seems to be suggesting that we've got
unrealistic expectations of the all Blacks these days. But that's
I think we We've always had unrealistic expectations, haven't we,
And sometimes they met those unrealistic expectations. Not for a
long time, though. The reality check seems to be taking
(05:18):
a long time to settle.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Use talks right.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
So.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Nobody sends letters anymore. I think there seems to be
something that a lot of people seem to be struggling
to come to terms with. I mean, on the afternoon show,
where they can come to terms with it or.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Not this is depressing text, No, they don't. They need
to balance the box costs, rent, salaries versus income. In
forty years time, those who wanted to be face to
face will be either pushing daisies or sitting steering at
a window. Move on, move out ted. That's depressing, says,
that's the future that we want that we're all just
everything's online.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
You don't have to leave the house.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
We never communicate with other humans. We just sit steering
into screens at the behest of whoever grabs our attention. Next.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
What a cold dystopian version of the society. I hope
that never comes to pass. I hope people push back
on that sort of stuff. I mean, you know, because
we are increasingly an online society, and I don't know
if that's good for the collective mental wellbeing of humanity.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
It's terrible for it.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
I mean, every single study you ever have shows that
the best thing for happiness is face to face contact
between other humans. Every part of it you remove. I'm
sure I understand that maybe post offices they may not
be the front line of it. Maybe as a we're
pretty broke country at the moment. We can't afford for
the post office to be losing money. Maybe, but the
world is a better place, I mean, a purely financial decision, Sure,
(06:54):
maybe post office would go. But there's no doubt that
the world is a worse place when there's least opportunities
for people to communicate face to face. This Texas is
only morons can't do it online.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
Shots fire.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, me texting that, but I tend to support that view.
I don't know really what why people are so sentimental
about post shops, because my only real experience with them
is standing in a queue. And I think from the
(07:29):
less time we spend standing in queues for better off everybody,
isn't they? Surely? Of course Marcus has taken this line
of reasoning a little bit further, and he's seen the
riding on the wall. But basically, nobody will need a
letter box anymore, because then what's going to happen.
Speaker 8 (07:48):
I didn't see that. You don't see that YouTube guy,
that guy that makes them blopes, You could do one
hundred and three minutes. You've never seen a guy fold
as quick in a way he's making him blopes. Here's
one hundred and three minutes, Marcus, Why buy new stemps
(08:09):
when you can reuse a lot of the old ones
on envelopes sent to you from other's right, they don't
frank them anymore. They've given up, they really have. I
reckon in five years time, no one's going to have
a litter box. There's going to be letter boxes museums.
We're going to take our children there to show them
what we used to do. So you want to get
(08:30):
ahead of the If you want to get ahead of
the game, start collecting letterboxes. This is a raw one.
This is a block of flats. Be fascinating.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I think he's completely wrong about that. What I see
is a trend with letter boxes is they're actually getting
bigger and more substantial because of course people want their
parcels delivered into them safely, and there's been some amazing
advances and you know, parcel drop technology in your letter box.
So yeah, he's got their one wrong. You can't be
(09:02):
right all the time, even when your mark US news
talk has it been, So let's finish it was a
little quick check on the price of gold, you know
how I like to do that. The of the podcasts
Goldman Sachs.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
They were saying yesterday it'll hit five four hundred by
the end of this year. But at this rate that
might be underselling it too, don't you reckon? Honestly makes
you want to rip your wedding ring off your earrings
and flog them, get them on trade me asat one
thing is for sure, these prices gold diggers, the prospectors,
That is not the sort Cargne things about will be
(09:36):
lining up to get the stuff out of the ground
quicker than you can say fast track. Every time the
price goes up, so too does the value of those projects.
The quicker that they can get up and running in
places like Otago and Ye, which has been given the
fast track, by the way, the better the return for
the investors. There's only around did you know this, two
hundred thousand tons of gold that's ever been mined, mostly
(10:00):
this has happened since nineteen fifty. It's enough to fill
two or three Olympic sized swimming pools, fascinating a every goal,
old bar and a vault, every wedding ring, every necklace
melted down. Doesn't actually amount to that much, does it?
And they reckon there's about sixty four thousand tons remaining
underground that's accessible to mine, and that makes this rare
(10:22):
and precious metal, which will surely become more precious as
the world becomes more uncertain.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I was interested to hear Trump the other day say
that rare earths aren't that rare, So we've been calling
those the wrong name. Yeah, I don't know what's going on.
I need to I don't have any gold. I'm starting
(10:50):
to feel like I should have got into gold. How
much gold have you got much? I am a green
heart that has been used towards you been. We'll see
you back here again tomorrow. We don't worry. I'm across
all the markets, all the tunes. I'll have that for you.
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Speaker 1 (11:14):
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air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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