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July 16, 2026 14 mins

FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the long weekend on Newstalk ZB)For the Lowest Common Denominators, Anyway/Remember Co-Governance?/Unions Are Easy/Podcast Roulette

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen harton We're looking
back at Thursday. Some people are up in arms about
the council EWE deals fuels between councils and EWE. So
one of the people who are up in arms about it, Heather,

(00:45):
we'll hear from here shortly. Unions. The Green Party basically
wants to make them not compulsory but the default. You'll
figure out what's going on there. And we're going to
do a sort of an interesting sort of a podcast

(01:07):
rue Lee. At the end of the podcast it is
to do with Marcus lash We'll fight anyway. It could
be good or it could be as podcasts really can be,
could just be a disaster. But before any of that,
to giget the kids off social media, do we just

(01:30):
take their phones off them? Hang on what at present?

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Parents hand these things out like candy caving by osmosis
to their kids. Peer pressure to own one of the
things the social media bands don't really seem to be
working very well. As we've spoken about before, half the
Aussie kids get around theirs. Where there's a will, there's
always a way. Banning the actual device itself does, on
the face of it, kind of make more sense. Don't

(01:56):
you think you can still communicate, but not with the
entire world, and not with the entire sum of human
knowledge good and bad at your unsupervised child's fingertips. This way,
adults can keep using social media and not have to
use some ID or a date of birth test to
log into their Facebook, which all sounds great, except the

(02:17):
real problem here is parents themselves. They're often the ones
who are on their phones and ignoring their kids in
the first place. If you were a child, wouldn't you
want to be doing whatever your parents were doing too.
It doesn't really matter what the law says, and changing
it won't change everything. It's ultimately up to adults raising

(02:37):
those kids to teach them right from wrong, good from bad,
and whether eight hours a day doom scrolling is a
behavior that's acceptable for them or their kids.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, that's what I keep saying. I don't understand why
it's just kids that need to be protected from all
this stuff. It's everybody. If you can't, you know, keep
a check on it yourself, you certainly can't expect your
kids to. But I don't know if taking everybody's phones

(03:10):
off them is the answer. It's lowest common denominator. Stut
doesn't it?

Speaker 1 (03:15):
News talk ze bean?

Speaker 2 (03:17):
What does Kerry Woodham think? Does she have a phone?
I bet she does.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Once you see something, once you get embroiled in something
beyond you, that's it. You can't unsee something, you can't
unhear something. Keep the ugly, unpatrolled, unpoliced, dark side of

(03:44):
the web away from our kids until they're able to cope.
They've got to build up a bit more resilience to cope.
David seam Will says banning smartphones will be a lot
easier than trying to police the Internet, and is right.
So if you're looking for a way to protect our
young people, do you go with David Seamore's total ban

(04:08):
on smartphones for under sixteens or do you try and
patrol the internet but by denying them access to certain apps?
Love to get your thoughts on this. I'd just go
for the band quicker, easier, simpler, cigarettes, alcohol, smartphones, no

(04:29):
access till you're an adult.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, I don't quite understand the logic. I mean, I
don't really understand the logic about allowing adults access to
cigarettes and alcohol either. I mean I don't use cigarettes,
I certainly use alcohol, and there are definitely days when
I wish that I didn't and wish that I wasn't
able to. How far do you go letting people do

(04:52):
harm to themselves? Yeah, like I say, apparently it's all
right if you're an adult, but not if you're a kid.
Us talk right, So what's the deal with these deals
that councils are doing with local eWeek? Are you exercised
about this or is it just Newstook's your v host
light here there in Mike if.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
You haven't followed this. What's going on is that Chris
Bishop is planning to replace the RMA shortly, and his
replacement law will not allow councils to sign any more
of these agreements. These agreements called mana fucker, fucker horn,
or ror hair agreements. They basically, in some cases in
extreme cases, said sovereignty to ewe The law will not
allow those to be signed, but they will allow existing

(05:34):
agreements to continue to exist. So what's happening is councils,
of course, are rushing to sign up as many of
these things as they can. Far North District Council is
trying to sign five apparently without involving elected councilors in it.
They're not allowed to see the detail apparently.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
I've had a.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
Letter today from the Mayor of Carterton drawing my attention
to the fact that Greater Wellington Regional Council, which covers Carterton,
is doing exactly the same thing despite the objections of
two of its councils, Carterton and carpety E can in
Canterbury tried to rush one through this week and then
got busted and then pulled it from the agenda. Now,
the fact the councils are being cynical like this is

(06:10):
of no surprise to anyone, because they did exactly the
same thing with the Maori Awards when they knew their
own rate payers in many cases did not support the
Maori wards. But this gets much more crunchy for the
current government because they the act Party and the National
Party in particular, have said that this co governance stuff
would end, yet they are allowing it to continue under
their new RMA laws by allowing these agreements to carry over.

(06:33):
They need to change that law. They need to change
that law, but before it becomes a law. If they
really meant what they said, and importantly, if they want
to retain the faith of voters who voted for them
to end this stuff, then they have to. When they
have the chance next week when the RMA Select Committee
report comes back, they have to say these agreements will
be rendered void under the new law. Whatever's been signed
in a rush will mean nothing. This is this government's

(06:55):
big test to prove that what they said about co
governance wasn't just hot.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Air m Yeah, kicking ass, scraping barnacles, getting the carry
out of the ditch kind of put your co governance
money where your mouth is governmant. Do you remember all
that took about co governance? I sud have forgotten about that.
I think it's one of those things we thought we

(07:21):
knew what it was, and it all got a bit complicated,
and so then it stopped really being top of mind.
It was too hard to think about. Not sure whether
we'll be whipped into a frenzy over that this coming election.
That maybe so the social engineering side of green Party
policy came to the four yesterday with them talking about

(07:47):
union membership and making it the default when you enter
the workforce. That's very sort of nineteen thirties, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (07:55):
One thing I always remember from that when I was
sixteen is going to work because you weren't now the
striker as a put up time worker and all the
other tradesmen just standing at the window using the living
hell out of anyone else that worked and that was
turned up for work that was non union, and the

(08:17):
abuse they got was just terrible, scared if let's say that,
blah blah blah. And I always remember once the the
strike finnest, they turned up to work like I was
just another Monday. And always from that day I said
I would never ever join the union. And almost two

(08:37):
decades later I joined the union because I had an
employment issue and the union helped or that.

Speaker 7 (08:44):
And you got the employment issue, and then you joined
the union, and because you joined the union, they helped
you with theployment issue before you joined.

Speaker 6 (08:56):
It was an interesting thing, you know, how you get
a gut feeling. And I had a union rep that
worked in the same plant and I said, we're just talking.
I said, I'll join up, and I was like six
dollars a week or whatever it was. There was nothing,
and then within four months I supposed to be joining
the issue, the employment issues came up and the unions

(09:21):
helped me out legally.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, I don't know how I feel about this. Actually,
I do know how I personally feel about it. So
I've said before, I've never been a union guy. I've
always felt like I can just stick up for myself.
But I get that there are other people who don't
feel that way, and I suppose those are the kinds
of people who probably find it hard to join up

(09:46):
with things proactively as well. And maybe the Greens have
got a point here. No, that can't be right, can it?
News Talk has it been okay? Podcast Relett time now
now normally with podcasts relate. I've got a cat that's
been sent to me by one of the producers at
one of the shows, And I don't know what they

(10:07):
mean with what they've called cat they've sent me. I
don't know, you can't sort of divine what it's about.
I'm pretty sure I know what this one's about from
what it's called. But am I wrong? So I'll tell
you what the cat's called The cat is called Marcus
experiences quae live on air. So I'm am I wrong.

(10:35):
I'm assuming that means that there was an earthquake wherever
Marcus was last night and he felt it, and then
we'll describe it as it happens. Am I wrong?

Speaker 8 (10:46):
Sort of whetstones on it, you know, I'm not whetstones,
but they're the same sort.

Speaker 9 (10:50):
Of hang on, hang on, it's an earthquake.

Speaker 8 (10:54):
Oh goodness, yeah, you and I haven't yet.

Speaker 9 (10:58):
No, and n the cat, I haven't felt one before.
It was quite a big shock.

Speaker 8 (11:03):
I can it's been.

Speaker 9 (11:04):
Sent it's still shaking much. Yeah, so it's quite a
big after shock after after what well what I'm still
feeling after shocks now. It's quite a big quake.

Speaker 8 (11:18):
Oh goodness, Marcus, Yeah, quite a big one. My thoughts
going out to you, I will survive.

Speaker 9 (11:26):
Where's the where's the cash? Well, where's the cash? The
money we've seen here is quite a big quake. Anyway.

Speaker 8 (11:37):
Well, I'll be listening to what it was, and my
thoughts going out to use down the air as long
as I'll.

Speaker 9 (11:43):
Just text Vanessa see if she felt it. Yes, you
didn't feel it, did you?

Speaker 6 (11:50):
No?

Speaker 8 (11:50):
Nothing here. No, I'm sitting in the living room and
nothing at all. No, but I'm pleased I made the
earth mostee, Marcus.

Speaker 9 (12:02):
Thanks Dave, if you felt the other Dave, Marcus, where
are you? I and them cargol It was it was strong,
wasn't it.

Speaker 8 (12:12):
Well.

Speaker 10 (12:13):
I've got a pendulum clock just over on the wall
there and the weights still banging. Yeah, and the light
it only happened about thirty seconds ago for me anyway,
and the lights this waying. But my pendulum weights on
the clock are still moving here. It was a sudden jolt.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (12:32):
Okay, we'll find more about that live quake coverage, Carriots Marcus.
Good evening. Vanessa. Hi Vanessa, I said to the Vanessa,
did you feel that quake? Yes, the whole house shock.
I think there were two.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
That's from Bluff. Where were you, Carrie.

Speaker 6 (12:46):
It's been Moscule Duaneden, So it's.

Speaker 9 (12:49):
A strong quake. It's a six point three forty k
southwest of Milford.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Sound.

Speaker 6 (12:55):
Oh see that that's really that was really shaking. I'm
in bed reading my book and I was shaking it before.

Speaker 8 (13:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
So it's interesting, isn't it. Those sorts of quakes People
want to be reassured, but they just imagine it. You know,
did you feel it? Where were you? How strong was it?

Speaker 8 (13:12):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (13:12):
You didn't feel it? What were you doing? There's a
lot of that sort of stuff going on, isn't there?
How did that go? Do you Reckon as a as
a podcast? Really like it? Sort of was what we
thought it was, wasn't it. I think it was worth
it for the making the earth move for you, Marcus line.

(13:33):
That was funny, but yet not quite as dramatic as
perhaps I was hoping. You know, but the building wasn't
falling down around Marcus's ears or anything. Not that I
wanted that that happened, of course, but that would have
certainly would have been a little bit more exciting and
just rather than just sort of asking people around the

(13:55):
south of the country, did you deal?

Speaker 5 (13:57):
It?

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Is your pendulum plopall right? Look after your pendulum clocks
wherever you are, and we'll see you back here again
on Monday. I'm hoping you'll know what time it is
and your clock on the Stuff News Talking Talking z
it Bean.

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