February 10, 2026 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Tuesday on Newstalk ZB) Seems Like We Need LNG One Way or Another/What to Do with Spooky Old Buildings In the Middle of Nowhere/Robot Apocalypse Update
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my liutple beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news. I'm Glen Hart, and they're looking
back at Tuesday Chateau. Now, a lot of you won't
have any idea what this is, although it does deep
popping up in the news consciousness time to time because
(00:49):
it would pull down at an earthquake. And despite that
and being on the side of the volcano, I mean,
I guess there is the there is a rescue shaky ground,
isn't there. But yeah, it's still being discussed as to
what to do with it. Apparently we own it for
some reason. Tyler goes to the physio. I'm sure that'll
(01:13):
be fascinating. But first up, so liquid natural gas will
save us, but only if we can get it into
the country. That's what we've anounced, the plan to get
it into the country, and now everybody's complaining about it.
We'd complained if our bum was on fire. I see
I've used that quession again, and I still not really
(01:35):
sure if it's an expression there's something about your bum
being on virus, somebody putting it out, and then you
can anyway, let's say some of the complaints or not complaints.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
When the wind don't blow and the sun don't shine,
we will import allergy and keep the lights on. That's
the theory. But last year we had the Frontier Economics Report,
same issue, different set of advisors. They were an independent
global consultancy crowd looking at the wider market. What they
said about Allergy was quite different. They told us it
would basically be a dumb idea to build an import
(02:10):
terminal because you've got a massive fixed cost that you
then spread over a relatively small amount of output because
you're only using this as a backup, and you can't
sell an LNG terminal once you've finished with it and
you have no need for it anymore. These particular advisors
made the point that it's quite a specific piece of
(02:30):
ket is and it could well turn into one of
this country's biggest white elephant investments. Yet here we are
less than a year later, with a different set of
advice and a different plan. There's no doubt the country
needs a plan to deal with energy security. Everyone knows that.
But depending on who you ask, this is either brilliant
(02:53):
or batshit.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Oh there's my headline for the podcast right there. Love
a bit of slightly sweary alliteration. Thank you Ran. That
will be a great help.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Us talk set.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I mean, I'm open to changing it, like I'm still recording.
You know, you can't decide on your headline util the
end of the podcast that I'll be surprised if Kerry
can do any better.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
The people at the bottom who are making stuff, generating exports,
providing jobs, driving to get from point day to point b,
either driving their exports to different ports or driving to
work to produce the exports, have to be convinced and
(03:41):
confident that there's another source of energy that is reliable, sustainable,
and relatively inexpensive that doesn't put their exports beyond the
reach of buyers. And until such time, they're not going
to They're not going to fall into line because it
would be financial suicide. It's a nice idea, it absolutely is,
(04:04):
and we make the most of what we have. The
resources around us where they're renewable, yes, let's use them.
But the Greens won't let us put in any hydro dams.
Can you imagine? I think my grandchildren's grandchildren probably wouldn't
live to see that. There's not enough sun. As Simon
(04:25):
what said, it's dark at night. Yeah, the wind is
not consistent. It's pie in the sky. Until such time
as we have sustainable, inexpensive alternative fuel sources, we need
to shore up the energy supply we have now. Sure,
save the planet, but if there's nobody bloody on it,
(04:47):
what's the point?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Ah ah, Yes, good question, isn't it? Good question? Are
we saving the planet or are we just saving our
place on it? And if we are just saving our
place on it, can we well by saving our place
on it? Do we ruin the whole bank for everyone?
(05:14):
This has got very deep, very quickly. I just thought
we were talking about gas.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
You'se talk, Sibby.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I don't know how deep Heather's going to go, whether
she's having as much of the next essential crisis about
it as I seem to be. Let's find out.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
You'll remember what happened when labor brought in the levees
and then tried to pretend they weren't taxes. The National
Party called bs on that. Do you remember what Nikola
will have said about the key we Save a levy
that Labour wanted to bring in back in twenty twenty two.
She said, if it looks like a tax and it
quacks like a tax, it's a tax. Or guess what
Chris Hipkins said about the electricity levy today. If it
(05:49):
looks like a tax and it quacks like a tax,
it is a tax. Now, that would be funny. Quoting
Nicola back on herself would be funny and ironic if
it wasn't that we're actually talking about paying more taxes
and we're talking about the second government in a row
trying to pretend we're stupid and can't tell the difference
between a tax and a levy, which is that there
is no difference. Now, why I think this has picularly
problematic for National is that we are still in the
(06:11):
cost of living crisis. Our power bills are high enough
without another tax. But moreover, I think we expected better,
given that five minutes ago National was on our side
calling out Labour's bs. It is very disappointing seeing them
try to play the same trick on us, And that's
without even discussing the optics of us being forced to
pay for a storage terminal for publicly floated electricity companies
(06:32):
to use.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Now.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
I don't know how the government gets out of this,
but unless they want the taxpayers union hammering them for
the next nine months and losing one of their major
points of difference with labor, they might want to get
out of this.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
The more I hear about this, the more I'm wondering,
how does it actually work. You've put gas on a
boat and then you get the gas off the boat.
That sounds complicated. I'm my dad used to have an
(07:04):
Austin Princess that was powered by LPG and there was
a real process of the servi station getting that thing
filled up, and it took up a lot of boot
space as well. I don't think there'll be any boot
space on any of those boats that are bringing the
LNG in. I'm really showing my ignorance here and.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Use your city right.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
What to do with the chateau. Marcus has been giving
it some thought, and I don't think he's really come
up with anything.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
It's good to preserve some history, but it's got to
preserve not just for the sake of it's got to
have some sort of vital use. I would think otherwise
it's going to be sad. So if you've got some
discussion about the chateau, how they could or what they
could do with it. I've got no idea what it
could be used for. And this would be like a
giant spookers that people walked through there in their ski
(07:57):
gear in the winter and got terrified. But yeah, I've
got no idea. But I just wonder if anyone had
the idea how they could attract high spending tourists to
go there. It's not like it's right next to the train.
It's about seventeen kilometers from the train. I know that
because I walked from the train to there. I thought
the train was going to drop me off outside, but
oh no, it was quite a way away upper Hill.
(08:19):
Mind you we managed it.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
You see exaggerating? He really walked?
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Where's his?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
We like, who else was there? It couldn't have been
the kids. You can't make kids walk seventeen k's, can you. Yeah?
I don't think anybody's walking seventeen k's for a spooker's
like experience. Although a mountain lodge is very what's the
(08:50):
Jack Nicholson Stanley Kubrick one at the Mountain Lodge how
can I not remember that one of the most seminal
horror movies of all time. We have to look it
up now. Used talking while I do that, we'd hear
(09:11):
about Tyler going to the physio. I'm sure it's facinating.
Speaker 7 (09:14):
I had a bit of a fall the other day.
Bit of a fall, did you and rolled my ankle?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Oh yeah, that's on my groaning.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
You know, I've been sitting here complaining and just making
weird noises because I've badly injured my ankle.
Speaker 8 (09:24):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 7 (09:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I went to the physio this
morning and what I found was interesting. Great guy sat
down and then the first thing he said was do
you mind if I use AI to record my notes?
And I'm like, absolutely, go for gold. And I freaking
loved it because as he was going through testing the ankle,
doing all the bits of stuff and told me what
he thought was going on, then he'd say it again
(09:46):
in a very loud voice so that we AI would
pick it up. So I kind of got the double dose.
But I thought, what an ingenious way to use that technology.
Speaker 8 (09:54):
A couple of points on this, did he touch you?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
He did, all right?
Speaker 8 (09:58):
So he can't be completely replaced by AI.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
No.
Speaker 8 (10:00):
No, So if he just took the message and there's
no need for the physio.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
Yeah, yeah, very point.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Yeah, very good point.
Speaker 8 (10:04):
Although I was getting a pedicure the other day, and
you know I don't often, but my partner said, your
feet are so gross that I've booked you in good call,
and the cheer was messaging me, was it nice? So
that so the chair you know him of these of
you know, you see them at the airports and stuff. Yeah,
but so you know you can't you can probably play.
You could probably place the physia with just a cheer
and AI recording.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Yeah, you can get a soft fingered robot there to
do that job.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
Second point is you don't need to put on a
stupid voice to talk to AI. It's like my dad
when he's trying to send text messages with his phone.
He goes text message, so he's talking to you. He goes, oh, no,
text message to Matt Heath's son, what are you doing today?
(10:51):
So you don't need to put on a voice to
talk to it. You can just it's actually calibrated to
just you know, register your normal voice. So true, because
he's actually by about fifty times he.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
Had to just raise his voice where he thought he
had to raise his voice a little bit so a
I would pick up. But there's a good point.
Speaker 8 (11:04):
Ediot, rolled and cale uncool ordinated, very soft hands, hasn't
done a day's work and his life that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Were you there, you must have been there.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
Were you in the waiting room? It's like you hit everything, matey.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
They jested. But I'm seeing a lot of stories today
about AI robots, physical AIS, the new era of AI,
which brings everything back to the beginning of the podcast
quite nicely. Actually, that whole existential crisis about our place
(11:43):
on the planet. I think we could have much done.
Oh the shining, by the way, as you were all
shouting retroactively through the internet for me and the hope
that it would get to me before the end of
this podcast. That was the name of the movie. I
didn't think of that. The set said the shadow, not
(12:04):
our shadow, just our shadow. So yeah, if we could
get you know, bloods of blood from behind closed doors
and spooky twins riding around on tricycles the shadow, that
would be quite a good spooky slight experience. We'll get
(12:24):
AI robots onto it. Maybe I am glen Haart. This
has not been AI, although I did use AI for
the artwork commers. I used Ryan Bridge for the head
writing for it It's not forget and I'll see you
back here again tomorrow. I wonder who'll come up with
my headline.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
Then used Talking talks it bean.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
For more from us, Talk said b. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iart Radio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said Be
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my liutple beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news. I'm Glen Hart, and they're looking
back at Tuesday Chateau. Now, a lot of you won't
have any idea what this is, although it does deep
popping up in the news consciousness time to time because
(00:49):
it would pull down at an earthquake. And despite that
and being on the side of the volcano, I mean,
I guess there is the there is a rescue shaky ground,
isn't there. But yeah, it's still being discussed as to
what to do with it. Apparently we own it for
some reason. Tyler goes to the physio. I'm sure that'll
(01:13):
be fascinating. But first up, so liquid natural gas will
save us, but only if we can get it into
the country. That's what we've anounced, the plan to get
it into the country, and now everybody's complaining about it.
We'd complained if our bum was on fire. I see
I've used that quession again, and I still not really
(01:35):
sure if it's an expression there's something about your bum
being on virus, somebody putting it out, and then you
can anyway, let's say some of the complaints or not complaints.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
When the wind don't blow and the sun don't shine,
we will import allergy and keep the lights on. That's
the theory. But last year we had the Frontier Economics Report,
same issue, different set of advisors. They were an independent
global consultancy crowd looking at the wider market. What they
said about Allergy was quite different. They told us it
would basically be a dumb idea to build an import
(02:10):
terminal because you've got a massive fixed cost that you
then spread over a relatively small amount of output because
you're only using this as a backup, and you can't
sell an LNG terminal once you've finished with it and
you have no need for it anymore. These particular advisors
made the point that it's quite a specific piece of
(02:30):
ket is and it could well turn into one of
this country's biggest white elephant investments. Yet here we are
less than a year later, with a different set of
advice and a different plan. There's no doubt the country
needs a plan to deal with energy security. Everyone knows that.
But depending on who you ask, this is either brilliant
(02:53):
or batshit.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Oh there's my headline for the podcast right there. Love
a bit of slightly sweary alliteration. Thank you Ran. That
will be a great help.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Us talk set.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I mean, I'm open to changing it, like I'm still recording.
You know, you can't decide on your headline util the
end of the podcast that I'll be surprised if Kerry
can do any better.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
The people at the bottom who are making stuff, generating exports,
providing jobs, driving to get from point day to point b,
either driving their exports to different ports or driving to
work to produce the exports, have to be convinced and
(03:41):
confident that there's another source of energy that is reliable, sustainable,
and relatively inexpensive that doesn't put their exports beyond the
reach of buyers. And until such time, they're not going
to They're not going to fall into line because it
would be financial suicide. It's a nice idea, it absolutely is,
(04:04):
and we make the most of what we have. The
resources around us where they're renewable, yes, let's use them.
But the Greens won't let us put in any hydro dams.
Can you imagine? I think my grandchildren's grandchildren probably wouldn't
live to see that. There's not enough sun. As Simon
(04:25):
what said, it's dark at night. Yeah, the wind is
not consistent. It's pie in the sky. Until such time
as we have sustainable, inexpensive alternative fuel sources, we need
to shore up the energy supply we have now. Sure,
save the planet, but if there's nobody bloody on it,
(04:47):
what's the point?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Ah ah, Yes, good question, isn't it? Good question? Are
we saving the planet or are we just saving our
place on it? And if we are just saving our
place on it, can we well by saving our place
on it? Do we ruin the whole bank for everyone?
(05:14):
This has got very deep, very quickly. I just thought
we were talking about gas.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
You'se talk, Sibby.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I don't know how deep Heather's going to go, whether
she's having as much of the next essential crisis about
it as I seem to be. Let's find out.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
You'll remember what happened when labor brought in the levees
and then tried to pretend they weren't taxes. The National
Party called bs on that. Do you remember what Nikola
will have said about the key we Save a levy
that Labour wanted to bring in back in twenty twenty two.
She said, if it looks like a tax and it
quacks like a tax, it's a tax. Or guess what
Chris Hipkins said about the electricity levy today. If it
(05:49):
looks like a tax and it quacks like a tax,
it is a tax. Now, that would be funny. Quoting
Nicola back on herself would be funny and ironic if
it wasn't that we're actually talking about paying more taxes
and we're talking about the second government in a row
trying to pretend we're stupid and can't tell the difference
between a tax and a levy, which is that there
is no difference. Now, why I think this has picularly
problematic for National is that we are still in the
(06:11):
cost of living crisis. Our power bills are high enough
without another tax. But moreover, I think we expected better,
given that five minutes ago National was on our side
calling out Labour's bs. It is very disappointing seeing them
try to play the same trick on us, And that's
without even discussing the optics of us being forced to
pay for a storage terminal for publicly floated electricity companies
(06:32):
to use.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Now.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
I don't know how the government gets out of this,
but unless they want the taxpayers union hammering them for
the next nine months and losing one of their major
points of difference with labor, they might want to get
out of this.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
The more I hear about this, the more I'm wondering,
how does it actually work. You've put gas on a
boat and then you get the gas off the boat.
That sounds complicated. I'm my dad used to have an
(07:04):
Austin Princess that was powered by LPG and there was
a real process of the servi station getting that thing
filled up, and it took up a lot of boot
space as well. I don't think there'll be any boot
space on any of those boats that are bringing the
LNG in. I'm really showing my ignorance here and.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Use your city right.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
What to do with the chateau. Marcus has been giving
it some thought, and I don't think he's really come
up with anything.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
It's good to preserve some history, but it's got to
preserve not just for the sake of it's got to
have some sort of vital use. I would think otherwise
it's going to be sad. So if you've got some
discussion about the chateau, how they could or what they
could do with it. I've got no idea what it
could be used for. And this would be like a
giant spookers that people walked through there in their ski
(07:57):
gear in the winter and got terrified. But yeah, I've
got no idea. But I just wonder if anyone had
the idea how they could attract high spending tourists to
go there. It's not like it's right next to the train.
It's about seventeen kilometers from the train. I know that
because I walked from the train to there. I thought
the train was going to drop me off outside, but
oh no, it was quite a way away upper Hill.
(08:19):
Mind you we managed it.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
You see exaggerating? He really walked?
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Where's his?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
We like, who else was there? It couldn't have been
the kids. You can't make kids walk seventeen k's, can you. Yeah?
I don't think anybody's walking seventeen k's for a spooker's
like experience. Although a mountain lodge is very what's the
(08:50):
Jack Nicholson Stanley Kubrick one at the Mountain Lodge how
can I not remember that one of the most seminal
horror movies of all time. We have to look it
up now. Used talking while I do that, we'd hear
(09:11):
about Tyler going to the physio. I'm sure it's facinating.
Speaker 7 (09:14):
I had a bit of a fall the other day.
Bit of a fall, did you and rolled my ankle?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Oh yeah, that's on my groaning.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
You know, I've been sitting here complaining and just making
weird noises because I've badly injured my ankle.
Speaker 8 (09:24):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 7 (09:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I went to the physio this
morning and what I found was interesting. Great guy sat
down and then the first thing he said was do
you mind if I use AI to record my notes?
And I'm like, absolutely, go for gold. And I freaking
loved it because as he was going through testing the ankle,
doing all the bits of stuff and told me what
he thought was going on, then he'd say it again
(09:46):
in a very loud voice so that we AI would
pick it up. So I kind of got the double dose.
But I thought, what an ingenious way to use that technology.
Speaker 8 (09:54):
A couple of points on this, did he touch you?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
He did, all right?
Speaker 8 (09:58):
So he can't be completely replaced by AI.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
No.
Speaker 8 (10:00):
No, So if he just took the message and there's
no need for the physio.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
Yeah, yeah, very point.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Yeah, very good point.
Speaker 8 (10:04):
Although I was getting a pedicure the other day, and
you know I don't often, but my partner said, your
feet are so gross that I've booked you in good call,
and the cheer was messaging me, was it nice? So
that so the chair you know him of these of
you know, you see them at the airports and stuff. Yeah,
but so you know you can't you can probably play.
You could probably place the physia with just a cheer
and AI recording.
Speaker 7 (10:26):
Yeah, you can get a soft fingered robot there to
do that job.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
Second point is you don't need to put on a
stupid voice to talk to AI. It's like my dad
when he's trying to send text messages with his phone.
He goes text message, so he's talking to you. He goes, oh, no,
text message to Matt Heath's son, what are you doing today?
(10:51):
So you don't need to put on a voice to
talk to it. You can just it's actually calibrated to
just you know, register your normal voice. So true, because
he's actually by about fifty times he.
Speaker 7 (10:59):
Had to just raise his voice where he thought he
had to raise his voice a little bit so a
I would pick up. But there's a good point.
Speaker 8 (11:04):
Ediot, rolled and cale uncool ordinated, very soft hands, hasn't
done a day's work and his life that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Were you there, you must have been there.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
Were you in the waiting room? It's like you hit everything, matey.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
They jested. But I'm seeing a lot of stories today
about AI robots, physical AIS, the new era of AI,
which brings everything back to the beginning of the podcast
quite nicely. Actually, that whole existential crisis about our place
(11:43):
on the planet. I think we could have much done.
Oh the shining, by the way, as you were all
shouting retroactively through the internet for me and the hope
that it would get to me before the end of
this podcast. That was the name of the movie. I
didn't think of that. The set said the shadow, not
(12:04):
our shadow, just our shadow. So yeah, if we could
get you know, bloods of blood from behind closed doors
and spooky twins riding around on tricycles the shadow, that
would be quite a good spooky slight experience. We'll get
(12:24):
AI robots onto it. Maybe I am glen Haart. This
has not been AI, although I did use AI for
the artwork commers. I used Ryan Bridge for the head
writing for it It's not forget and I'll see you
back here again tomorrow. I wonder who'll come up with
my headline.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
Then used Talking talks it bean.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
For more from us, Talk said b. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iart Radio
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