April 19, 2026 • 13 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) Game of the Season/It's Electrifying/AI Apocalypse Update/Can't You Just Be Funny?
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean the
week in edition. Who's with you today's news? I am
Glenhart and we're looking back at both Sunday and Saturday
because that's the weekend and today the Green Party have.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
It's been electric, as song Bolly would say in Greece.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Not the country in the movie.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Do any of you know what I'm thinking about?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Anyway, the Green Party's poking up solentrification. And then following
off from that, we've got an ai Apocolyp's update for
you from both Jack and Franciscarectly, and then Jack will
have a word with Tim Batt and we'll ask that
that continual, repeating, ongoing question, why aren't comedians funnier in interviews?
(01:12):
But before any of that, Super Rugby didn't get much
better than Saturday night.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Oh well, let me if you're a Chiefs fan, that's
for sure.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
What a night for you.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
Mate.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Let's go straight to your try. You came off the
bench seventeen to ten down and not long after you've arrived,
you're finishing a length of the field try. So what
do you remember most about it?
Speaker 6 (01:32):
Yeah, I just looked up, say the ball was turned
over for put my head downs, seen bomp Ago and
put a skill from him to get the ball through
and yeah over the right line.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
When you're running in support of a guy like that,
are you calling for the ball or are you just
trusting that he'll give it to you at the right time?
Speaker 6 (01:52):
You know, I was screaming pretty louder. I'm glad you
heard me because I think.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
There was an opportunity earlier to he shaped to pass,
didn't he and it actually probably would have been the
wrong time to pass, so so you know, and then
once you got it, just a clear run too the
line house that feeling.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
Oh it was pretty awesome, Like first first try at
home from the friends and family is pretty special.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
So against your former team as well. Did that add
an extra extra layer to it too?
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Yeah, that was a good one, I know, to get
one up to enjoyed that.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Talk to us about the game as a whole. Obviously
you watched from the bench. When you when you enter
a really physical type contest like that, how challenging is
it to match that intensity straight away once you enter
the game.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
Yeah, like it was a it was a big night
day obviously Luky's one hundreds of games.
Speaker 7 (02:40):
Well, I was.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
We talked about it joiningly. It's one of those games
you can't want to be a part of them. Yeah,
watching it from the sideline, it was it was pretty
physical way and the subod matchups out there. So when
I got on and noticed you had to go do
my job.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, that's Dan Sickmins in there, and they may tell
you what being made a difference. I was quite sure
whether it was the tea spinch coming on that made
a difference, or the Hurricanes been players that went off
and then soddenly their scrub wasn't quite.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
As dominant, and it's got overly technical.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Didn't it almost sound like I knew what I was
talking about there for a moment. And I don't never
played Ragby ever. I've been watching it for about fifty
two years.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
But other than that, news talk has been right so close.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Or Brick joined the Weekend Collective Sunday afternoon to explain
what they were on about and what they weren't into,
because it's very important because so many of their voting
basa listening on a Sunday afternoon, don't they.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I guess one of the things that popped out at
me first was the villains that you've mentioned Christopher Luxon's
seven or eight times. You've got Trump, the big corporates,
the rich. So is this about I mean, those people
are not going to be around forever. Is it all
their fault?
Speaker 6 (03:59):
No, it's not.
Speaker 7 (04:00):
But I think that when we're talking about the current
state of the planet, it's pretty critical that we identify
who the current people are that are making decisions which
are impacting saturating our daily lives and shaping the opportunities
that New Zealanders have access to and those that they
do not. So when we're talking about the government as
a whole, it's important that people understand which government we're
talking about. But you'll see both in my speech and
(04:21):
in martemer Is that we've been also pretty plain that
this has largely been a state of affairs occurring for
the last forty years as successive governments have subscribed to
kind of trickle down economics, whereby we've seen pepperd centrism
deliver a bit of a breeding ground for right wing extremism.
And that, of course is also what we're seeing around
across the rest of the world at the moment. And
(04:42):
the point that we're making in the speech and in
my speech in particular, is that there is a heck
of a lot of talk about building security at the
moment as the world looks incredibly chaotic and unstable, and
there's a small country at the bottom of the world
in the middle of the Pacific. There is actually only
so many things that we have real control over. And
what we're talking about is building real security, which means energy, sovereignty,
(05:05):
and an affordable way of living for New Zealanders so
that everybody has a decent life and the ability to
participate in democracy. So that's part and parcel of the
National Electrification Plan, but also in reassearching our independent foreign.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Policy, the Natural Electrification Plan sounds like something out of
nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Is it that you see on banners and signs around the
electorate support the National Electrification Plan?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Of allowed speakers? Yep, I love, I'm in favor of
neb as. I like to call it that you worry about.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
That you've talk.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Okay, let's have an AI apocalypse update.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
How close are we to the robots taking over.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Well, first, of course, that they can take care of
the easy stuff, like foreign languages.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
We don't have to learn those anymore. So why is
Jack drying so hard?
Speaker 8 (06:00):
No more blind pointing at a menu and hoping for
the best, No more language barriers, charades. I can see
how those tools and that technology might make someone like
me give up and throw in the towel. After all,
what's the point in a Duolingo streak if you can
open up a different app on your phone that will
(06:22):
perfectly communicate on your behalf. But I really hope not,
I really hope not. I just think the connections you
form with another person when you communicate in their language
are ultimately unreplicable with technology. There are some things that
technology and AI can't do. And what's more, there's something
(06:46):
nourishing about trying to form and sustain a habit in learning.
It's like you can feel the neural pathways trying to
fire in real time. I reckon, there's something humbling, too,
there is there's something humbling. It's twenty five years since
(07:07):
I started learning Spanish, twenty five years and here I
am again confusing a verb conjugation. I just think from
time to time. Being humbled isn't such a bad thing.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Um, yeah, so, I'm not quite sure whether he's for
or against duel and go there.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
It's just true. It is hard to be humble.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
A should write a song about it. Francesca has been
using AI as well. I'm not quite sure what for,
but she's into it.
Speaker 9 (07:42):
If you're not using AI, you're a mug, my partner said,
before heading outside to mow the lawns before the rain came.
But are you a mug? All this car hunting was
done was being done under the disappointed gaze of our
other child, who believes AI quite simply is rotting our
brains that AI is here. So where do you draw
the line? I find this question fascinating. I can't help
(08:02):
but click on articles about the threat and potential of
AI when implemented with a human. AI has the potential
to change lives for the better when created with little
regulation and for financial gain. The benefit for humans is
harder to judge. It's hard to celebrate productivity gains when
it's accompanied by layoffs, and with two kids in tertiary education,
(08:22):
I'm obsessed about what jobs AI is stealing. And yet,
as I saw yesterday. It can be a great way
to make our lives easier. I like young people with
strong opinions and their anti AI stance, and I'm more
interested in continuing to grow my neural pathways rather than
lessening them, So my use of AI will always be restrained.
But I think my partner is right, you'd be a
mug to ignore it. Understanding and being able to use
(08:44):
AI is going to be as necessary as being able
to type was. Once upon a time AI was not used.
In the writing of this editorial, you can probably tell.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
It's pretty clever ayes out there, there's also some pretty
useless ones. I'm sick of hearing about it, and I'm
also what is that part of you? I've become increasingly
(09:19):
fascinated about this recently, especially with the rise and rise
of evs lately.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
How people will become.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Zealous over the things that they do and insist that
you do the same thing that they do. And people
who are into AI are definitely generally in that category,
and they can't understand why people who aren't aren't. It's
that people who drive evs are the same. Oh, you've
got to drive an EV change your life mate. I
(09:52):
mean we're like that with everything, are we. I mean,
it's the stuff we're streaming. We can't understand why somebody
else wouldn't be watching the same things that we're watching.
The funny thing about human beings, isn't it Does AI
work that way as well? Have favorite things? Or is
it still in that obsequious, sycophantic I'll have what you're
(10:18):
having face used talk right time to speak to a comedian,
it's that time of years, it's comedian times that as
a great comedian. But that doesn't mean that he's going
to be a laugh a minute in an interview, as
we know that quite often, isn't the case?
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Held?
Speaker 8 (10:38):
A good morning, Good a Jack, how are you? I'm
very well. Thank Even the way you say hello, I
can hear the optimism in your voice. I can hear
the spring in your step.
Speaker 10 (10:48):
Yeah, I know, I'm broadly speaking. The world's not looking
the best it's ever looked at the moment, but I
think it is. I think it's important to keep your
chin up, you know, whenever you can. Why I honestly,
for me, it comes from a place of like I
want to be useful, and I think you're not useful
to anyone if you're sort of paralyzed by the world,
(11:09):
by all the negativity and the reality is like, man,
we live in New Zealand. We're so lucky, and I've
got a great situation. I've got a I'm leading a
blessed little life.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
Okay, we'll talk about your situation in a moment. I'm
interested that you you see that as being a potential
response that people, given the state of the world right now,
are going to be kind of bogged down with it
and just in a kind of in a permanent funk
as a result.
Speaker 10 (11:33):
Yeah, and I think it's very paralyzing. The trouble is,
I think when that happens, you get very stuck, and
I think you get a little bit easy to be
manipulated as well, like as a population. I honestly think
that's kind of what's been happening over the course of
my adult life, is that people have been down us. Okay, well, sure,
(11:56):
I think here we go. We've been really put through
the meat grinder. People's material conditions have been getting steadily worse.
It is like it's a look around, man. The people
I always think about as students as well. It's never
been harder to be a student in this country. I
don't know how they're doing it. The students who are
like doing full time jobs, some of them are supporting
(12:17):
their families while they're doing their studies.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
All of our.
Speaker 10 (12:20):
Parents were getting on the chop all the time. They
were like, they had this beautiful student allowance. They go
have beers, they go study, and honestly, that's great. That's
what you should be doing in your early twenties is
creating these wonderful social networks for yourself and making friendships
and relationships and stuff, and starting a family. And I
(12:40):
think that there are some pretty evil, very wealthy people
who have taken advantage of the fact that they've got
a lot of power, and they've tricked us into thinking
the wrong people are our issue?
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Am I being unreasonable?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Wanting comedians to be funny all the time even in interviews?
I probably am, aren't I? When they are people too.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
And being funny is their job.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
That would be like me being interviews and then wanting
to also check the levels and it at the interview afterwards,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Yeah, I take it all back.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
So sorry, comedians, I asked, I'll see.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
You back here.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
You won't find me being funny all the time, that's
for damn sure. And I'll see you back here again
tomorrow where I definitely will not be funny in any way.
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Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean the
week in edition. Who's with you today's news? I am
Glenhart and we're looking back at both Sunday and Saturday
because that's the weekend and today the Green Party have.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
It's been electric, as song Bolly would say in Greece.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Not the country in the movie.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Do any of you know what I'm thinking about?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Anyway, the Green Party's poking up solentrification. And then following
off from that, we've got an ai Apocolyp's update for
you from both Jack and Franciscarectly, and then Jack will
have a word with Tim Batt and we'll ask that
that continual, repeating, ongoing question, why aren't comedians funnier in interviews?
(01:12):
But before any of that, Super Rugby didn't get much
better than Saturday night.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Oh well, let me if you're a Chiefs fan, that's
for sure.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
What a night for you.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
Mate.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Let's go straight to your try. You came off the
bench seventeen to ten down and not long after you've arrived,
you're finishing a length of the field try. So what
do you remember most about it?
Speaker 6 (01:32):
Yeah, I just looked up, say the ball was turned
over for put my head downs, seen bomp Ago and
put a skill from him to get the ball through
and yeah over the right line.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
When you're running in support of a guy like that,
are you calling for the ball or are you just
trusting that he'll give it to you at the right time?
Speaker 6 (01:52):
You know, I was screaming pretty louder. I'm glad you
heard me because I think.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
There was an opportunity earlier to he shaped to pass,
didn't he and it actually probably would have been the
wrong time to pass, so so you know, and then
once you got it, just a clear run too the
line house that feeling.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
Oh it was pretty awesome, Like first first try at
home from the friends and family is pretty special.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
So against your former team as well. Did that add
an extra extra layer to it too?
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Yeah, that was a good one, I know, to get
one up to enjoyed that.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Talk to us about the game as a whole. Obviously
you watched from the bench. When you when you enter
a really physical type contest like that, how challenging is
it to match that intensity straight away once you enter
the game.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
Yeah, like it was a it was a big night
day obviously Luky's one hundreds of games.
Speaker 7 (02:40):
Well, I was.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
We talked about it joiningly. It's one of those games
you can't want to be a part of them. Yeah,
watching it from the sideline, it was it was pretty
physical way and the subod matchups out there. So when
I got on and noticed you had to go do
my job.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, that's Dan Sickmins in there, and they may tell
you what being made a difference. I was quite sure
whether it was the tea spinch coming on that made
a difference, or the Hurricanes been players that went off
and then soddenly their scrub wasn't quite.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
As dominant, and it's got overly technical.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Didn't it almost sound like I knew what I was
talking about there for a moment. And I don't never
played Ragby ever. I've been watching it for about fifty
two years.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
But other than that, news talk has been right so close.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Or Brick joined the Weekend Collective Sunday afternoon to explain
what they were on about and what they weren't into,
because it's very important because so many of their voting
basa listening on a Sunday afternoon, don't they.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I guess one of the things that popped out at
me first was the villains that you've mentioned Christopher Luxon's
seven or eight times. You've got Trump, the big corporates,
the rich. So is this about I mean, those people
are not going to be around forever. Is it all
their fault?
Speaker 6 (03:59):
No, it's not.
Speaker 7 (04:00):
But I think that when we're talking about the current
state of the planet, it's pretty critical that we identify
who the current people are that are making decisions which
are impacting saturating our daily lives and shaping the opportunities
that New Zealanders have access to and those that they
do not. So when we're talking about the government as
a whole, it's important that people understand which government we're
talking about. But you'll see both in my speech and
(04:21):
in martemer Is that we've been also pretty plain that
this has largely been a state of affairs occurring for
the last forty years as successive governments have subscribed to
kind of trickle down economics, whereby we've seen pepperd centrism
deliver a bit of a breeding ground for right wing extremism.
And that, of course is also what we're seeing around
across the rest of the world at the moment. And
(04:42):
the point that we're making in the speech and in
my speech in particular, is that there is a heck
of a lot of talk about building security at the
moment as the world looks incredibly chaotic and unstable, and
there's a small country at the bottom of the world
in the middle of the Pacific. There is actually only
so many things that we have real control over. And
what we're talking about is building real security, which means energy, sovereignty,
(05:05):
and an affordable way of living for New Zealanders so
that everybody has a decent life and the ability to
participate in democracy. So that's part and parcel of the
National Electrification Plan, but also in reassearching our independent foreign.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Policy, the Natural Electrification Plan sounds like something out of
nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Is it that you see on banners and signs around the
electorate support the National Electrification Plan?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Of allowed speakers? Yep, I love, I'm in favor of
neb as. I like to call it that you worry about.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
That you've talk.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Okay, let's have an AI apocalypse update.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
How close are we to the robots taking over.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Well, first, of course, that they can take care of
the easy stuff, like foreign languages.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
We don't have to learn those anymore. So why is
Jack drying so hard?
Speaker 8 (06:00):
No more blind pointing at a menu and hoping for
the best, No more language barriers, charades. I can see
how those tools and that technology might make someone like
me give up and throw in the towel. After all,
what's the point in a Duolingo streak if you can
open up a different app on your phone that will
(06:22):
perfectly communicate on your behalf. But I really hope not,
I really hope not. I just think the connections you
form with another person when you communicate in their language
are ultimately unreplicable with technology. There are some things that
technology and AI can't do. And what's more, there's something
(06:46):
nourishing about trying to form and sustain a habit in learning.
It's like you can feel the neural pathways trying to
fire in real time. I reckon, there's something humbling, too,
there is there's something humbling. It's twenty five years since
(07:07):
I started learning Spanish, twenty five years and here I
am again confusing a verb conjugation. I just think from
time to time. Being humbled isn't such a bad thing.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Um, yeah, so, I'm not quite sure whether he's for
or against duel and go there.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
It's just true. It is hard to be humble.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
A should write a song about it. Francesca has been
using AI as well. I'm not quite sure what for,
but she's into it.
Speaker 9 (07:42):
If you're not using AI, you're a mug, my partner said,
before heading outside to mow the lawns before the rain came.
But are you a mug? All this car hunting was
done was being done under the disappointed gaze of our
other child, who believes AI quite simply is rotting our
brains that AI is here. So where do you draw
the line? I find this question fascinating. I can't help
(08:02):
but click on articles about the threat and potential of
AI when implemented with a human. AI has the potential
to change lives for the better when created with little
regulation and for financial gain. The benefit for humans is
harder to judge. It's hard to celebrate productivity gains when
it's accompanied by layoffs, and with two kids in tertiary education,
(08:22):
I'm obsessed about what jobs AI is stealing. And yet,
as I saw yesterday. It can be a great way
to make our lives easier. I like young people with
strong opinions and their anti AI stance, and I'm more
interested in continuing to grow my neural pathways rather than
lessening them, So my use of AI will always be restrained.
But I think my partner is right, you'd be a
mug to ignore it. Understanding and being able to use
(08:44):
AI is going to be as necessary as being able
to type was. Once upon a time AI was not used.
In the writing of this editorial, you can probably tell.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
It's pretty clever ayes out there, there's also some pretty
useless ones. I'm sick of hearing about it, and I'm
also what is that part of you? I've become increasingly
(09:19):
fascinated about this recently, especially with the rise and rise
of evs lately.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
How people will become.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Zealous over the things that they do and insist that
you do the same thing that they do. And people
who are into AI are definitely generally in that category,
and they can't understand why people who aren't aren't. It's
that people who drive evs are the same. Oh, you've
got to drive an EV change your life mate. I
(09:52):
mean we're like that with everything, are we. I mean,
it's the stuff we're streaming. We can't understand why somebody
else wouldn't be watching the same things that we're watching.
The funny thing about human beings, isn't it Does AI
work that way as well? Have favorite things? Or is
it still in that obsequious, sycophantic I'll have what you're
(10:18):
having face used talk right time to speak to a comedian,
it's that time of years, it's comedian times that as
a great comedian. But that doesn't mean that he's going
to be a laugh a minute in an interview, as
we know that quite often, isn't the case?
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Held?
Speaker 8 (10:38):
A good morning, Good a Jack, how are you? I'm
very well. Thank Even the way you say hello, I
can hear the optimism in your voice. I can hear
the spring in your step.
Speaker 10 (10:48):
Yeah, I know, I'm broadly speaking. The world's not looking
the best it's ever looked at the moment, but I
think it is. I think it's important to keep your
chin up, you know, whenever you can. Why I honestly,
for me, it comes from a place of like I
want to be useful, and I think you're not useful
to anyone if you're sort of paralyzed by the world,
(11:09):
by all the negativity and the reality is like, man,
we live in New Zealand. We're so lucky, and I've
got a great situation. I've got a I'm leading a
blessed little life.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
Okay, we'll talk about your situation in a moment. I'm
interested that you you see that as being a potential
response that people, given the state of the world right now,
are going to be kind of bogged down with it
and just in a kind of in a permanent funk
as a result.
Speaker 10 (11:33):
Yeah, and I think it's very paralyzing. The trouble is,
I think when that happens, you get very stuck, and
I think you get a little bit easy to be
manipulated as well, like as a population. I honestly think
that's kind of what's been happening over the course of
my adult life, is that people have been down us. Okay, well, sure,
(11:56):
I think here we go. We've been really put through
the meat grinder. People's material conditions have been getting steadily worse.
It is like it's a look around, man. The people
I always think about as students as well. It's never
been harder to be a student in this country. I
don't know how they're doing it. The students who are
like doing full time jobs, some of them are supporting
(12:17):
their families while they're doing their studies.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
All of our.
Speaker 10 (12:20):
Parents were getting on the chop all the time. They
were like, they had this beautiful student allowance. They go
have beers, they go study, and honestly, that's great. That's
what you should be doing in your early twenties is
creating these wonderful social networks for yourself and making friendships
and relationships and stuff, and starting a family. And I
(12:40):
think that there are some pretty evil, very wealthy people
who have taken advantage of the fact that they've got
a lot of power, and they've tricked us into thinking
the wrong people are our issue?
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Am I being unreasonable?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Wanting comedians to be funny all the time even in interviews?
I probably am, aren't I? When they are people too.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
And being funny is their job.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
That would be like me being interviews and then wanting
to also check the levels and it at the interview afterwards,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Yeah, I take it all back.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
So sorry, comedians, I asked, I'll see.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
You back here.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
You won't find me being funny all the time, that's
for damn sure. And I'll see you back here again
tomorrow where I definitely will not be funny in any way.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
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