August 6, 2024 • 13 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Tuesday on Newstalk ZB) Corporate Fascism Takes Hold/Rate Cuts Won't Make Us Rich/What the Hell Is Happening with Northport?/Why Pizza is So Amazing
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Tuesday our rape cats on the
way or not? Or a topsy turvy economic world we're
living in Northport? Is that happening or not? Struggling to
(00:44):
get a clear line on exactly what's going on with this?
And then pizza in the Olympics courtesy of Marcus that
discussion at the end of the podcast at the beginning
of the podcast. So there's definitely an education shake up happening,
isn't there when they shake it up? Arts and music
going to fall out of it? How is the government
(01:06):
prioritizing things and why now?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I do have sympathy for teachers who feel a little
slammed by everything that's coming at them, because there is
a lot that's going on, especially with this change in
government and the renewed focus on education. There is a
lot that they are expected to do, to change, to implement,
to learn to get their heads around at the moment.
And now, of course they've got this a new math's
curriculum they just found out this weekend. They're going to
have to start implementing in what six months time. Hence
(01:32):
Chris Luxen's suggestion, if the teachers feel like they haven't
got enough time in the day or in the week
to do it all, then they need to bump up
the maths and bump down the other stuff that's far
less important. And remember we are also talking here about
primary and intermediate school teachers. These teachers, and especially at
the primary level, are generalists. They teach it all rather
than the specialist maths or science or English teachers that
(01:52):
you would get at the secondary school level. So much
easier for them to be able to bump something down
and bump something up. It's completely doable. It's basically going
to be about time management, and it's also going to
be about prioritization. And as confronting as this may be
to some parents, isn't it about time that in this
country weird admit that two plus two is more important
than coloring in a picture of a tree?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Is it? What?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Why is it?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I mean that seems black and white because some people
doesn't to me, I couldn't disagree with that more. I mean,
I disagree with it to the point that I don't
really think that to a mutually exclusive and be more
important than each.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Other news talk has it been.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I get really worried when they start coming for the
arts and culture and music. This is what happened in
Australia with we're certainly in their tertiary education spending and
now they're wondering what they could a bit of a
vacuum when it comes to arts and culture because they
were only worried about making more business leaders.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Did those words of the promise to sort of alarm
you at all? If it means we're going to defer
our arts and music curriculum for now, then so be it.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Absolutely. I mean I am one hundred percent supportive of
we need to do something because standards have fallen drastically
over the years. And I've been a principal for thirty
three years, I've been in teaching for thirty six and
it's absolutely true. Standards the lower and that's been an
incremental creep really for whatever reason. But you cannot just
(03:31):
have a focus on maths, reading and writing. We'll have
other issues in with attendance all over again. Kids will
be bought out of your tree if that's all they're
doing at school. So one of you were talking before
about it, and in an end it's got to be
And in an end, the music and the dance and
the drama and the performing arts, that's the stuff that
turns you on right at school, that's the stuff that
(03:53):
helps you be a better learner. So I'm really concerned
with what's happening, and I agree with everything National has
been doing actually, which is unusual for a teacher to
be seeing this, But you know what, we've got to
do something, but we can't do it at the expense
of the other curriculmas. I think the Prime Minister was
wrong in saying that.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Okay, so in you opened yourselvo by saying, you know,
school standards have dropped over the last thirty years significantly.
You've seen it. You've been there as a principal and
a teacher formally. So why, in your view have the
standards dropped so much?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
It's such a hard question to answer.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Ah Man, I guess I appreciate art more than corporate success.
I mean that's a personal thing. From my end. Guess
what I was actually not bad at both things at school.
(04:50):
It's not impossible. Oh man, I'm really worried about this.
This is starting to sound a bit kind of It's
like corporate fascism. Is that what we're talking about? Anyway?
I guess yeah, we need to know how to do
math so we know how much money we don't have.
Bring on the rate cats, right.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
You know, We've got a mortgage at my house we're
going to be refixing, so when they happen, I'm not
going to be running out and splurging on the credit card.
You know, There'll be no new TV or couch at
my house. There'll be no new car in the driveway,
and I won't be going to fancy restaurants all the time.
I won't be going to the clubs and making it
rain cash. Just because the rates have cut. This cost
(05:31):
of living crisis, coupled with the technical recession that we
went through, it's got me feeling a little sensible. If
I'm being honest with you, I'm thinking more about saving.
I'm thinking more about being strategic investing. You never know
when the next government slash, reserve banks splurge might fuel
the next big thing. You know, the lockdowns, then the
(05:52):
loose purse strings, the prolonged high interest rates. So you've
got to be prepared for stuff. What does that mean
for retailers who are falling over to their knees all
around us? I think, sadly things won't suddenly bounce back
Adrian or blows his whistle. It'll be a long, hard slog.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
Yet.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, actually it's not. That's a very good point Ryan makes,
there isn't it. And it actually does relate a little
bit back to that education thing as well. There aren't
magic bullets to solve massive problems like the education system,
like the economy, like the house system. You've just got
(06:35):
to chip away, don't you. If you chip away from
all angles, you might end up with a beautiful sculpture.
Oh no, hang on, Art's off. I keep forgetting right Northport.
I'm confused about what's going on here, and I must
admit I'm guilty of not looking into this story myself.
I'm getting all my North Court news primarily through Mike
(06:58):
Hoskin complaining about it, and I'm just not quite sure
where they're at with which court and which appeal, and
whether it's going ahead, or are they even sure you know.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
And come at me with your narrow gauge rail because
I vaguely remember the narrow gauge rail arguments, and our
trains aren't big enough to take the containers. Yes they are.
Set a few other train spotters, and the train spotters
debate raged in twenty nineteen. They were passionate enough to
(07:30):
debate amongst themselves. I didn't really feel I needed to
stick the narrow gauge into my brain. So yeah, sure,
but that's going to be a heap of infrastructure as
well to upgrade the train tracks ready for the sort
of freight that would be coming into an out of Northport. So,
you know, I would love to see the far North revitalized.
(07:51):
I would love to see Northport extend. It makes sense.
It's close to some of the biggest markets, but surely
not until we have the infrastructure to be able to
take the trucks. And yes, there's a four lane highway plan,
(08:12):
let's see if that can stay open, because that beautiful,
beautiful stretch of road that we can travel on sometimes, Yeah,
that's great, but it doesn't stay open. Is there any
guarantee a four lane highway will? So where do we
put a bigger, better Port. Total is struggling to expand
(08:36):
you can't get to Northport for seventeen weeks of this year.
Auckland's in the middle of a congested city. I can't
imagine how much it costs with all the time wasting.
Napier timorrow, come back to Eden. I mean, what the
Firth of Thames? What's the answer?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah? So again, I don't we want everything to serve
out to us in a concise, simple package. And there's
probably lots of answers. This lot of bits of the puzzle,
aren't they I don't know news talk has it been
and some of the bits of the puzzle being made
(09:19):
out of pizza?
Speaker 8 (09:19):
Please got pizza for the kids tonight? And I sat
in Pizza Hut South in v Cargo and it was
fifteen minutes to wait for my pizza. And I don't
have a problem with that, but man was it busy.
(09:41):
And I never think we've got Uber eatz and Vcago,
we've got delivery deliver easy, but so many people picking
up pizzas and delivering them. I think Pizza Hut themselves
were delivering. I must have been there for ten minutes.
It must have been one hundred pizza's gone out, and
I'm thinking, well, all sorts of questions to go through
my mind. A while we so obsessed with pizza two
(10:04):
or B A B B have we reached peak pizza? C?
Do anyone enjoy pizza? D? What were those boxes that
are a meter long? Who's having that? That's another question?
(10:25):
There's more E. Why is it so successful pizza? And
I suspect, having thought about this for an hour, I
suspect the pizza is so successful not because it's delicious,
not because it's incredibly healthy, not because it's incredibly cheap,
(10:46):
although it seems to be very reasoningly priced. I think
probably the major success of your standard pizzas, like your
Pizza Hu and your Dominoes, or here's the fifteen hundred,
I'm going to get this one. We'll take this and'll
hold your horse here. They're going to go about a minute.
I know they might do the slow introduction of all
the athletes. Yet sometimes I think, if I'm an athlete,
(11:07):
I think what my special would be. Some of the
women just do a wave with just their fingers. Their
hands go up beside them, like a who does his
hands up there? Like like we're about to press up,
but standing up then just wiggle their fingers. Other ones
do the heart with their hands. Other ones do the
pull the bow, do the arrow. Often wonder what I'd do?
(11:32):
But that's the Olympics for.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
You, isn't it.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
Yeah, because you will sit there and watch that.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Well, Actually, what sport would I.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
Be good at?
Speaker 7 (11:37):
Or none?
Speaker 8 (11:37):
Because I'm not there? And how I wave to the camera.
He's she's Remsen has done a heart, and then she's
done a wiggly heart. She did a heart, and then
then Fernidend's done the little double wave. The woman looks
like she's Icelandic. She's done a wink. We all got something,
haven't they. That's their thing. The USA woman's blowing a kiss.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
You can't do that.
Speaker 8 (12:02):
We don't find out why he thinks.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Pizza is so successful. He got distracted not by they're
actual fifteen hundred meters, just by the woman coming out
to run it, just being introduced to the crowd. Surely
he could have got in the main point of what
he was leading up to there. I mean, I wasn't
there last night.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
I need to know.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Can somebody please tell me? Does anybody know why Marcus
thinks pizza is so awesome. It doesn't matter why he
thinks it is.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
It just is.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I think actually, going back to the sort of the
running theme of the podcast, I think pizza can solve
a lot of problems for everybody. Free pizza for everyone,
I say, I've bean Hart. That has been news too,
said Bean. I'm starving now and it's only five o'clock
in the morning. Too early to order a pizza. Y
too early, is it? See you back here again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
New Talk is talk zid Bean. For more from news Talk,
said b Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk SEDB. Follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk SEDB Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Tuesday our rape cats on the
way or not? Or a topsy turvy economic world we're
living in Northport? Is that happening or not? Struggling to
(00:44):
get a clear line on exactly what's going on with this?
And then pizza in the Olympics courtesy of Marcus that
discussion at the end of the podcast at the beginning
of the podcast. So there's definitely an education shake up happening,
isn't there when they shake it up? Arts and music
going to fall out of it? How is the government
(01:06):
prioritizing things and why now?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I do have sympathy for teachers who feel a little
slammed by everything that's coming at them, because there is
a lot that's going on, especially with this change in
government and the renewed focus on education. There is a
lot that they are expected to do, to change, to implement,
to learn to get their heads around at the moment.
And now, of course they've got this a new math's
curriculum they just found out this weekend. They're going to
have to start implementing in what six months time. Hence
(01:32):
Chris Luxen's suggestion, if the teachers feel like they haven't
got enough time in the day or in the week
to do it all, then they need to bump up
the maths and bump down the other stuff that's far
less important. And remember we are also talking here about
primary and intermediate school teachers. These teachers, and especially at
the primary level, are generalists. They teach it all rather
than the specialist maths or science or English teachers that
(01:52):
you would get at the secondary school level. So much
easier for them to be able to bump something down
and bump something up. It's completely doable. It's basically going
to be about time management, and it's also going to
be about prioritization. And as confronting as this may be
to some parents, isn't it about time that in this
country weird admit that two plus two is more important
than coloring in a picture of a tree?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Is it? What?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Why is it?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I mean that seems black and white because some people
doesn't to me, I couldn't disagree with that more. I mean,
I disagree with it to the point that I don't
really think that to a mutually exclusive and be more
important than each.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Other news talk has it been.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I get really worried when they start coming for the
arts and culture and music. This is what happened in
Australia with we're certainly in their tertiary education spending and
now they're wondering what they could a bit of a
vacuum when it comes to arts and culture because they
were only worried about making more business leaders.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Did those words of the promise to sort of alarm
you at all? If it means we're going to defer
our arts and music curriculum for now, then so be it.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Absolutely. I mean I am one hundred percent supportive of
we need to do something because standards have fallen drastically
over the years. And I've been a principal for thirty
three years, I've been in teaching for thirty six and
it's absolutely true. Standards the lower and that's been an
incremental creep really for whatever reason. But you cannot just
(03:31):
have a focus on maths, reading and writing. We'll have
other issues in with attendance all over again. Kids will
be bought out of your tree if that's all they're
doing at school. So one of you were talking before
about it, and in an end it's got to be
And in an end, the music and the dance and
the drama and the performing arts, that's the stuff that
turns you on right at school, that's the stuff that
(03:53):
helps you be a better learner. So I'm really concerned
with what's happening, and I agree with everything National has
been doing actually, which is unusual for a teacher to
be seeing this, But you know what, we've got to
do something, but we can't do it at the expense
of the other curriculmas. I think the Prime Minister was
wrong in saying that.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Okay, so in you opened yourselvo by saying, you know,
school standards have dropped over the last thirty years significantly.
You've seen it. You've been there as a principal and
a teacher formally. So why, in your view have the
standards dropped so much?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
It's such a hard question to answer.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Ah Man, I guess I appreciate art more than corporate success.
I mean that's a personal thing. From my end. Guess
what I was actually not bad at both things at school.
(04:50):
It's not impossible. Oh man, I'm really worried about this.
This is starting to sound a bit kind of It's
like corporate fascism. Is that what we're talking about? Anyway?
I guess yeah, we need to know how to do
math so we know how much money we don't have.
Bring on the rate cats, right.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
You know, We've got a mortgage at my house we're
going to be refixing, so when they happen, I'm not
going to be running out and splurging on the credit card.
You know, There'll be no new TV or couch at
my house. There'll be no new car in the driveway,
and I won't be going to fancy restaurants all the time.
I won't be going to the clubs and making it
rain cash. Just because the rates have cut. This cost
(05:31):
of living crisis, coupled with the technical recession that we
went through, it's got me feeling a little sensible. If
I'm being honest with you, I'm thinking more about saving.
I'm thinking more about being strategic investing. You never know
when the next government slash, reserve banks splurge might fuel
the next big thing. You know, the lockdowns, then the
(05:52):
loose purse strings, the prolonged high interest rates. So you've
got to be prepared for stuff. What does that mean
for retailers who are falling over to their knees all
around us? I think, sadly things won't suddenly bounce back
Adrian or blows his whistle. It'll be a long, hard slog.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
Yet.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, actually it's not. That's a very good point Ryan makes,
there isn't it. And it actually does relate a little
bit back to that education thing as well. There aren't
magic bullets to solve massive problems like the education system,
like the economy, like the house system. You've just got
(06:35):
to chip away, don't you. If you chip away from
all angles, you might end up with a beautiful sculpture.
Oh no, hang on, Art's off. I keep forgetting right Northport.
I'm confused about what's going on here, and I must
admit I'm guilty of not looking into this story myself.
I'm getting all my North Court news primarily through Mike
(06:58):
Hoskin complaining about it, and I'm just not quite sure
where they're at with which court and which appeal, and
whether it's going ahead, or are they even sure you know.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
And come at me with your narrow gauge rail because
I vaguely remember the narrow gauge rail arguments, and our
trains aren't big enough to take the containers. Yes they are.
Set a few other train spotters, and the train spotters
debate raged in twenty nineteen. They were passionate enough to
(07:30):
debate amongst themselves. I didn't really feel I needed to
stick the narrow gauge into my brain. So yeah, sure,
but that's going to be a heap of infrastructure as
well to upgrade the train tracks ready for the sort
of freight that would be coming into an out of Northport. So,
you know, I would love to see the far North revitalized.
(07:51):
I would love to see Northport extend. It makes sense.
It's close to some of the biggest markets, but surely
not until we have the infrastructure to be able to
take the trucks. And yes, there's a four lane highway plan,
(08:12):
let's see if that can stay open, because that beautiful,
beautiful stretch of road that we can travel on sometimes, Yeah,
that's great, but it doesn't stay open. Is there any
guarantee a four lane highway will? So where do we
put a bigger, better Port. Total is struggling to expand
(08:36):
you can't get to Northport for seventeen weeks of this year.
Auckland's in the middle of a congested city. I can't
imagine how much it costs with all the time wasting.
Napier timorrow, come back to Eden. I mean, what the
Firth of Thames? What's the answer?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah? So again, I don't we want everything to serve
out to us in a concise, simple package. And there's
probably lots of answers. This lot of bits of the puzzle,
aren't they I don't know news talk has it been
and some of the bits of the puzzle being made
(09:19):
out of pizza?
Speaker 8 (09:19):
Please got pizza for the kids tonight? And I sat
in Pizza Hut South in v Cargo and it was
fifteen minutes to wait for my pizza. And I don't
have a problem with that, but man was it busy.
(09:41):
And I never think we've got Uber eatz and Vcago,
we've got delivery deliver easy, but so many people picking
up pizzas and delivering them. I think Pizza Hut themselves
were delivering. I must have been there for ten minutes.
It must have been one hundred pizza's gone out, and
I'm thinking, well, all sorts of questions to go through
my mind. A while we so obsessed with pizza two
(10:04):
or B A B B have we reached peak pizza? C?
Do anyone enjoy pizza? D? What were those boxes that
are a meter long? Who's having that? That's another question?
(10:25):
There's more E. Why is it so successful pizza? And
I suspect, having thought about this for an hour, I
suspect the pizza is so successful not because it's delicious,
not because it's incredibly healthy, not because it's incredibly cheap,
(10:46):
although it seems to be very reasoningly priced. I think
probably the major success of your standard pizzas, like your
Pizza Hu and your Dominoes, or here's the fifteen hundred,
I'm going to get this one. We'll take this and'll
hold your horse here. They're going to go about a minute.
I know they might do the slow introduction of all
the athletes. Yet sometimes I think, if I'm an athlete,
(11:07):
I think what my special would be. Some of the
women just do a wave with just their fingers. Their
hands go up beside them, like a who does his
hands up there? Like like we're about to press up,
but standing up then just wiggle their fingers. Other ones
do the heart with their hands. Other ones do the
pull the bow, do the arrow. Often wonder what I'd do?
(11:32):
But that's the Olympics for.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
You, isn't it.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
Yeah, because you will sit there and watch that.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Well, Actually, what sport would I.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
Be good at?
Speaker 7 (11:37):
Or none?
Speaker 8 (11:37):
Because I'm not there? And how I wave to the camera.
He's she's Remsen has done a heart, and then she's
done a wiggly heart. She did a heart, and then
then Fernidend's done the little double wave. The woman looks
like she's Icelandic. She's done a wink. We all got something,
haven't they. That's their thing. The USA woman's blowing a kiss.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
You can't do that.
Speaker 8 (12:02):
We don't find out why he thinks.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Pizza is so successful. He got distracted not by they're
actual fifteen hundred meters, just by the woman coming out
to run it, just being introduced to the crowd. Surely
he could have got in the main point of what
he was leading up to there. I mean, I wasn't
there last night.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
I need to know.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Can somebody please tell me? Does anybody know why Marcus
thinks pizza is so awesome. It doesn't matter why he
thinks it is.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
It just is.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I think actually, going back to the sort of the
running theme of the podcast, I think pizza can solve
a lot of problems for everybody. Free pizza for everyone,
I say, I've bean Hart. That has been news too,
said Bean. I'm starving now and it's only five o'clock
in the morning. Too early to order a pizza. Y
too early, is it? See you back here again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
New Talk is talk zid Bean. For more from news Talk,
said b Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
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