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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hi, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Jan Harten. We're looking
back at Wednesday. Man, this Michelin Star thing got people talking.
I've sort of decided I'm not that interested at it,
but yeah, lots of people are. It doesn't sound like
(00:44):
there's too many Michelin Star school lunches out there. Yes,
that's right, we're talking to school lunches again. And the
anniversary of the walkman, Mark Marcus just wanted to take
a moment to commemorate that. But before any of that,
how's the economy going? And not just ours?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Everyone's Wall Street is steaming ahead, on track for the
best or some of the best quarterly performances since COVID.
The S and P up fourteen percent through Monday, Nasdaq
up twenty percent. This is for the quarter. Price of
oil is falling. Manufacturing activity in the United States it
is a four year high. Here at home. People always
(01:23):
tell you the bad stuff, but they rarely report the
good or the stable. Yesterday business confidence was up in
June and that thirty seven percent of businesses are more
confident this month compared to last. Despite the ward and
the oil in the shops being a bit more cautious,
there's optimism out there, there's hope out there.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Jobs.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Remember they said jobs would fall off a cliff like
that's literally what one economist said, people would stop hiring.
Remember the employment survey that came out a few weeks
ago was the most negative or depressing reads since it
began decades ago. And then we got jobs number Monday.
We gained opportunities, we gained jobs, we gained workers on
(02:07):
a net basis, we added to the pool. That's why
on this program we always strive to bring facts without
so much emotion and hyperbole. Bad things happen and people react,
but not always in the way that you think or
even they think they will. And if there's one thing
you can be sure of, no matter how disastrous the
headline or the event, or the war or the pandemic,
(02:29):
commerce will always find a way. Sometimes it'll take a
little longer than others.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
All right, So it's just going to keep going on forever,
is it. We're just going to keep making more and
more money. And when I say we day, let's be honest,
that's cool. There's absolutely no reason why that'll ever stop. Okay,
(02:54):
let's carry on there, news talk. I guess that's how
some people can afford four hundred and fifty dollars ahead
to eat at Essence. He's the one's only two star
mission of star restaurant. Oh yeah, they were handing out
(03:15):
the stars. Don't you worry about that.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
It will mean full bookings, it will mean international recognition.
It means the ability to walk into a kitchen anywhere
in the world and say I worked in a Micheline
Star restaurant, and they know what it means and they
know that you're good. I am also stoked for the
people who love eating out. All of a sudden there
is a list to take off, isn't there? How is it,
for example, that I have eaten at assa restaurant in Queenstown,
(03:38):
but never at Paris Butter in Auckland, and it's just
down the road from me. I now intend to rectify
that quickly. But also there is a part of me
that is also really pleased that this has righted a wrong,
which is the local punishment that's been going on for Amersfield.
I don't dispute that the alleged behavior of the former
head chef wasn't good, and I don't dispute that the
owners of the restaurant should not have allegedly turned a
(03:59):
blind eye to it for so long. But I did
not like the fact that the establishment continued to be
punished even after Vaughn maybe who was the problem, had
left the building, especially by Cuisine magazine, who then refused
to recommend Amersfield as a restaurant. Amasfield was the best
restaurant in the country until all of a sudden it
was no longer the best restaurant in the country according
(04:19):
to Cuisine because one man left. Michelin has now righted
that wrong by giving it a star last night. That
was controversial that had got a star last night. I've
already read one take on it that isn't totally complimentary
of that decision, but I don't care, because what I
want to know is is Amasfield a good place to
eat now that the legendary and problematic chef has gone?
Is it still good? The answer apparently is yes, but
(04:41):
we had to get foreigners and to tell us that
because we all went weird in a bit cancel culture
on the place. For the record, I have eaten at
Amersfield when the problem chef was there. It was one
of the best meals I've had, and I'm pleased it
is still excellent excellent there, at least according to Michelin.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
It's a crazy thing, isn't it that Michelin tis set
up that guide in the first place. They gave restaurants
different ratings to try and encourage people to drive further
than they normally would to restaurants so they would use
up their tires. Flicker, I'm not making this up. Qu's
(05:20):
talk zippy anyway. Obviously, Matt and Tyler messive fans of
eating at Michelin Star restaurants, so I think I'm pretty
sure that's all they ever eat at.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
I think people look at a country and they're deciding
to go somewhere, and it's a real effort to come
to New Zealand for a lot of people. But they
want to know that that there's great food there. So
they want to know that there's that there's great scenery.
We can advertise that there's You talk about these adventure tourism,
but if you are also showing that we have Michelin
Star restaurants here. I think that does make a big
(05:51):
difference because that's a lot of holidays. A lot of
holidays is the eating, the dining. People talk about that
all the time. You know, you talk to people that
have gone overseas, one of the first things they'll talk
about is the food.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
They'll go, hell, what was the food?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Like?
Speaker 5 (06:04):
That is one of the first things people ask. So
if that question is aren't answered when someone's about to
book the flight, Ah, there's all these Mitchellin Star restaurants
over there, then you're answering the question, is the food
good over there?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (06:17):
It is.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I heard Mike Hoskin ask the guy at Essence, the
one that's got the two stars, why there's such a
gap between. You know, there's restaurants that do really well
and then these these cafes and restaurants that go out
of business five minutes after they open. It would be
(06:41):
great of all the restaurants in New Zealand with Michelin
Star restaurants, that would be quite a good point of difference.
I'm not sure what it would take. It's disappointing to
me that it's just based on the food like the
service doesn't come. It's literally just how good the food is.
We feel like you have some really great nights out
(07:04):
and you can't even really remember what you ate, you know, right,
So from one end of the food scales of the
other school lunches, I can't believe you're still talking about this.
I don't think David Seymour can either.
Speaker 7 (07:20):
Never imagined in ten trillion years that it would cause
this much angst political doing and throwing, that it would
cost that much run three hundred and twenty eight million
a year, that it would take up command so much
(07:42):
airtime and column inches in the media.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
It's absurd.
Speaker 7 (07:47):
I thought it would be a lunch as you and
I know it, not every single calorie and veggie a
child would need in a day. That it would be
about improving attendance, because when the kids knew there was
a good meal for them, they'd turn up to school
and performance would improve. But that hasn't happened. School attendance
(08:09):
hasn't improved, and the only data around improved classroom performance
is non existent. You just get the touchy fairlies the
children reported as a better sense of well being. Well,
that's not getting an A plus is it that's not
being able to sit through a reading lesson. No, the
programs become more trouble than it's bloody worth. Do away
(08:31):
with the government being involved, you know, give some money
to the charities that do provide kids. Can provide lunches,
Sanitarium and Fonterra provide breakfast clubs. Either scale it right
back and keep it simple and keep it as cheap
as possible, the sandwich, the yoga at the apple, or
just don't do it at all.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I really wish I could remember what you complain if
your bum was on fire and then you complain if
somebody put it out? Is that what the I know?
I've asked us before, and I feel like that's a
saying that I'm a Mandela affected it because I mean,
who has their bum on fire? How does that ever happen?
(09:14):
I suppose if you'd try to light your own farts?
Speaker 7 (09:16):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I don't know? News talk. Does it be?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
We're going to finish up here remembering one of the
greatest inventions of all time? Can it be one of
the greatest inventions of all time if we're not still
using it?
Speaker 6 (09:29):
I remember vividly seeing my first warpman This was nineteen
seventy nine. On this day, the Wartman was released. For
those people that are younger than my age, what the
Warkman was, It was the first time ever, really you
could take your music with you. You'd put a cassette
and you'd wear it on a strap like a handbag. Wow,
(09:52):
and you'd take music with you as you went. I
never had one, but I've used them. They're extraordinary for
planes and for jogging. If you're a music person. Changed
the way we did things. So let's acknowledge that that's
this day in nineteen seventy nine. Yeah, it's first appearance remarkable,
(10:18):
and teenage life was never quite the same again. Particularly
imagine if you're a goth, you're going it a bubble
with your hood to listen to your cure music might
have changed your life. The Warkman, it seemed to be
called the walk Person.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Great thing.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Where would you put in the world's best invention? Certainly
be top ten.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I'd say I I wasn't poor growing up, and yet
all I can remember from my childhood was having imitations
of things like not the real thing, you know, like
at school everybody had no mads, but I had shoes
that weren't no Mads but looked a bit like no Mads.
And it was the same with the Warkmen. I didn't
(11:02):
actually have a sony walkman. I had a like a
portable cassette, but it was Awa.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Was that a brand.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
There's a lot of things that I'm struggling to remember
this morning. Is that the early onset might be the
early onset. But I loved it and it seemed to
work all right, but it wasn't a sony. I don't
think that really made much difference. And I used to
record my brother and my sister's albums on a C
(11:34):
ninety cassette. I've put that in my possibly an Awa
if that's a brand affordable cassette player, and then I
jump on my bike go for a ride with my
own personal soundtrack. Got into trouble for recording one of
those albums because my sister was giving it to her boyfriend,
and she claimed that she couldn't have been give it
(11:55):
to him because it had already been used. I don't
think that's the way albums work. I think he can
use them more than once and he would never have known.
But she made a big deal about it. This last
bit's gone on a bit long? Isn't it on the
that happens sometimes with these podcasts, Isn't it? Is that
why you like them? I mean you specifically, I'm talking
to you right now because the other wise you wouldn't
(12:16):
still be here, would you. I hope you come back
again tomorrow. I mean, if you are still here now,
you're probably the kind of Crisody will be.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Us talking talks it Bean. For more from News Talk
si B. Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hi, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Jan Harten. We're looking
back at Wednesday. Man, this Michelin Star thing got people talking.
I've sort of decided I'm not that interested at it,
but yeah, lots of people are. It doesn't sound like
(00:44):
there's too many Michelin Star school lunches out there. Yes,
that's right, we're talking to school lunches again. And the
anniversary of the walkman, Mark Marcus just wanted to take
a moment to commemorate that. But before any of that,
how's the economy going? And not just ours?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Everyone's Wall Street is steaming ahead, on track for the
best or some of the best quarterly performances since COVID.
The S and P up fourteen percent through Monday, Nasdaq
up twenty percent. This is for the quarter. Price of
oil is falling. Manufacturing activity in the United States it
is a four year high. Here at home. People always
(01:23):
tell you the bad stuff, but they rarely report the
good or the stable. Yesterday business confidence was up in
June and that thirty seven percent of businesses are more
confident this month compared to last. Despite the ward and
the oil in the shops being a bit more cautious,
there's optimism out there, there's hope out there.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Jobs.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Remember they said jobs would fall off a cliff like
that's literally what one economist said, people would stop hiring.
Remember the employment survey that came out a few weeks
ago was the most negative or depressing reads since it
began decades ago. And then we got jobs number Monday.
We gained opportunities, we gained jobs, we gained workers on
(02:07):
a net basis, we added to the pool. That's why
on this program we always strive to bring facts without
so much emotion and hyperbole. Bad things happen and people react,
but not always in the way that you think or
even they think they will. And if there's one thing
you can be sure of, no matter how disastrous the
headline or the event, or the war or the pandemic,
(02:29):
commerce will always find a way. Sometimes it'll take a
little longer than others.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
All right, So it's just going to keep going on forever,
is it. We're just going to keep making more and
more money. And when I say we day, let's be honest,
that's cool. There's absolutely no reason why that'll ever stop. Okay,
(02:54):
let's carry on there, news talk. I guess that's how
some people can afford four hundred and fifty dollars ahead
to eat at Essence. He's the one's only two star
mission of star restaurant. Oh yeah, they were handing out
(03:15):
the stars. Don't you worry about that.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
It will mean full bookings, it will mean international recognition.
It means the ability to walk into a kitchen anywhere
in the world and say I worked in a Micheline
Star restaurant, and they know what it means and they
know that you're good. I am also stoked for the
people who love eating out. All of a sudden there
is a list to take off, isn't there? How is it,
for example, that I have eaten at assa restaurant in Queenstown,
(03:38):
but never at Paris Butter in Auckland, and it's just
down the road from me. I now intend to rectify
that quickly. But also there is a part of me
that is also really pleased that this has righted a wrong,
which is the local punishment that's been going on for Amersfield.
I don't dispute that the alleged behavior of the former
head chef wasn't good, and I don't dispute that the
owners of the restaurant should not have allegedly turned a
(03:59):
blind eye to it for so long. But I did
not like the fact that the establishment continued to be
punished even after Vaughn maybe who was the problem, had
left the building, especially by Cuisine magazine, who then refused
to recommend Amersfield as a restaurant. Amasfield was the best
restaurant in the country until all of a sudden it
was no longer the best restaurant in the country according
(04:19):
to Cuisine because one man left. Michelin has now righted
that wrong by giving it a star last night. That
was controversial that had got a star last night. I've
already read one take on it that isn't totally complimentary
of that decision, but I don't care, because what I
want to know is is Amasfield a good place to
eat now that the legendary and problematic chef has gone?
Is it still good? The answer apparently is yes, but
(04:41):
we had to get foreigners and to tell us that
because we all went weird in a bit cancel culture
on the place. For the record, I have eaten at
Amersfield when the problem chef was there. It was one
of the best meals I've had, and I'm pleased it
is still excellent excellent there, at least according to Michelin.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
It's a crazy thing, isn't it that Michelin tis set
up that guide in the first place. They gave restaurants
different ratings to try and encourage people to drive further
than they normally would to restaurants so they would use
up their tires. Flicker, I'm not making this up. Qu's
(05:20):
talk zippy anyway. Obviously, Matt and Tyler messive fans of
eating at Michelin Star restaurants, so I think I'm pretty
sure that's all they ever eat at.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
I think people look at a country and they're deciding
to go somewhere, and it's a real effort to come
to New Zealand for a lot of people. But they
want to know that that there's great food there. So
they want to know that there's that there's great scenery.
We can advertise that there's You talk about these adventure tourism,
but if you are also showing that we have Michelin
Star restaurants here. I think that does make a big
(05:51):
difference because that's a lot of holidays. A lot of
holidays is the eating, the dining. People talk about that
all the time. You know, you talk to people that
have gone overseas, one of the first things they'll talk
about is the food.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
They'll go, hell, what was the food?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Like?
Speaker 5 (06:04):
That is one of the first things people ask. So
if that question is aren't answered when someone's about to
book the flight, Ah, there's all these Mitchellin Star restaurants
over there, then you're answering the question, is the food
good over there?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (06:17):
It is.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I heard Mike Hoskin ask the guy at Essence, the
one that's got the two stars, why there's such a
gap between. You know, there's restaurants that do really well
and then these these cafes and restaurants that go out
of business five minutes after they open. It would be
(06:41):
great of all the restaurants in New Zealand with Michelin
Star restaurants, that would be quite a good point of difference.
I'm not sure what it would take. It's disappointing to
me that it's just based on the food like the
service doesn't come. It's literally just how good the food is.
We feel like you have some really great nights out
(07:04):
and you can't even really remember what you ate, you know, right,
So from one end of the food scales of the
other school lunches, I can't believe you're still talking about this.
I don't think David Seymour can either.
Speaker 7 (07:20):
Never imagined in ten trillion years that it would cause
this much angst political doing and throwing, that it would
cost that much run three hundred and twenty eight million
a year, that it would take up command so much
(07:42):
airtime and column inches in the media.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
It's absurd.
Speaker 7 (07:47):
I thought it would be a lunch as you and
I know it, not every single calorie and veggie a
child would need in a day. That it would be
about improving attendance, because when the kids knew there was
a good meal for them, they'd turn up to school
and performance would improve. But that hasn't happened. School attendance
(08:09):
hasn't improved, and the only data around improved classroom performance
is non existent. You just get the touchy fairlies the
children reported as a better sense of well being. Well,
that's not getting an A plus is it that's not
being able to sit through a reading lesson. No, the
programs become more trouble than it's bloody worth. Do away
(08:31):
with the government being involved, you know, give some money
to the charities that do provide kids. Can provide lunches,
Sanitarium and Fonterra provide breakfast clubs. Either scale it right
back and keep it simple and keep it as cheap
as possible, the sandwich, the yoga at the apple, or
just don't do it at all.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I really wish I could remember what you complain if
your bum was on fire and then you complain if
somebody put it out? Is that what the I know?
I've asked us before, and I feel like that's a
saying that I'm a Mandela affected it because I mean,
who has their bum on fire? How does that ever happen?
(09:14):
I suppose if you'd try to light your own farts?
Speaker 7 (09:16):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I don't know? News talk. Does it be?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
We're going to finish up here remembering one of the
greatest inventions of all time? Can it be one of
the greatest inventions of all time if we're not still
using it?
Speaker 6 (09:29):
I remember vividly seeing my first warpman This was nineteen
seventy nine. On this day, the Wartman was released. For
those people that are younger than my age, what the
Warkman was, It was the first time ever, really you
could take your music with you. You'd put a cassette
and you'd wear it on a strap like a handbag. Wow,
(09:52):
and you'd take music with you as you went. I
never had one, but I've used them. They're extraordinary for
planes and for jogging. If you're a music person. Changed
the way we did things. So let's acknowledge that that's
this day in nineteen seventy nine. Yeah, it's first appearance remarkable,
(10:18):
and teenage life was never quite the same again. Particularly
imagine if you're a goth, you're going it a bubble
with your hood to listen to your cure music might
have changed your life. The Warkman, it seemed to be
called the walk Person.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Great thing.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Where would you put in the world's best invention? Certainly
be top ten.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I'd say I I wasn't poor growing up, and yet
all I can remember from my childhood was having imitations
of things like not the real thing, you know, like
at school everybody had no mads, but I had shoes
that weren't no Mads but looked a bit like no Mads.
And it was the same with the Warkmen. I didn't
(11:02):
actually have a sony walkman. I had a like a
portable cassette, but it was Awa.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Was that a brand.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
There's a lot of things that I'm struggling to remember
this morning. Is that the early onset might be the
early onset. But I loved it and it seemed to
work all right, but it wasn't a sony. I don't
think that really made much difference. And I used to
record my brother and my sister's albums on a C
(11:34):
ninety cassette. I've put that in my possibly an Awa
if that's a brand affordable cassette player, and then I
jump on my bike go for a ride with my
own personal soundtrack. Got into trouble for recording one of
those albums because my sister was giving it to her boyfriend,
and she claimed that she couldn't have been give it
(11:55):
to him because it had already been used. I don't
think that's the way albums work. I think he can
use them more than once and he would never have known.
But she made a big deal about it. This last
bit's gone on a bit long? Isn't it on the
that happens sometimes with these podcasts, Isn't it? Is that
why you like them? I mean you specifically, I'm talking
to you right now because the other wise you wouldn't
(12:16):
still be here, would you. I hope you come back
again tomorrow. I mean, if you are still here now,
you're probably the kind of Crisody will be.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Us talking talks it Bean. For more from News Talk
si B. Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
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