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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
This is yesterday's news. I am Glen Hartn. We are
looking back at Wednesday, and of course there's really only
one story in the world. Yesterday we finally got an
All Blacks coach. But before we, you know, divert all
our attention to that, let's talk about how the Iran
(00:48):
conflict is affecting us personally New Zealanders. Some of us
stuck in places where we didn't think we were going
to be for this log Can the government help us? Please?
Should the government help us? Please?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I have been stranded overseas before when the Icelandic volcano
a fyat La Yokut. Who's been listening to Google pronunciation me?
I have, and probably still got it wrong, never could
pronounce it. Then when that blew up, I was in
Paris doing the Paris Marathon. Airspace over Europe was closed.
(01:27):
Travel ensurance didn't help, and you were on your own.
And there are worse places to be than trapped in
Paris in the springtime. I will grant you that, and
it was ash blowing into the cities, not around in missiles,
but statistically right now, although that could change it any minute.
There would be more chance of me being run over
(01:49):
on the Shaunzalise back then than killed by a missile
in Dubai right now. But that's statistics and that emotion
doesn't come into it.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
I get that.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
When your loved ones are stranded overseas, you want them
home and you want them safe. But is it on
the taxpayer to provide that? I don't think so. But
am I being a heartless mall I've been accused of
that before, But I just you know, I get the emotion.
(02:21):
I totally do, because I've been there. You want your
loved ones home, you want to get home. But I
never assumed that my first port of call would be
the government.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Another tense meeting in the hathouse last night about what
we're going to do about our trip in May to
Europe through Dubai. The consensus at the moment seems to
be we buy other tickets that don't go through Dubai,
and then at least if the Dubai ones are cancer,
(02:59):
will get our money back on those. But there's no
way around it. It's going to end up costing us money.
It slightly, there's a war going on news talk ze
been Okay, okay, I didn't need to trivialize things. Let's
talk about the real impact of this around thing. It's
(03:22):
going to cost us more for petrol.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
About sixty percent of our energy supply, of what we
use day to day, comes from fossil fuels. Did you
know that? Kelly Echold from Westpac told me yesterday it's
likely petrol prices will go up for us As of yesterday,
he estimated eight cents a liter at the pump within
a week or two. Now, oil prices at the moment
are actually, by comparison to recent years, quite low. But
(03:48):
your one hundred to one hundred and twenty dollars barrel
forecast is key. That's the point at which our inflation
forecast would have to change, he reckons. And we know
what that means, don't we? Price is going up. Think
about how much of what you do in a day
driving a car, using a plastic pen, powering your business trucks,
getting food to supermarkets. Think about how much that uses oil.
(04:10):
We're dependent and once you get those prices going up,
you get general prices going up, and then you get
the reserve banks back up, and then what is this
the event the hell that our recovery dies on. Please
don't don't don't freak out. Don't freak out. We're not
there yet. We're not there. National certainly will be hoping not.
But the ingredients are there, and the language you have
(04:34):
to say coming out of the White House over the
last twenty four hours isn't exactly helping to allay our.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
Fears, is it.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I feel like there's more once in a lifetime events
in our lifetime than the SPM other people's lifetimes. Yeah,
me too.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Talk.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So they finally got a coach for the All Blacks.
Here's hoping Dave Rennie will be able to stop them
just constantly kicking the ball back to the opposition from
inside their own heart. I mean, you can hope.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
It'd be funny if Jamie Joseph had thrown his toys.
They said, we talked to Jamie Jovis, Jamie Joseph. He
said that Rennie's a dick, Rugby sucks, I hate the
whole process, and then hung up on us.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Would have been great for us, it would have been fantastic.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
No, But of course Jamie Joseph is a fantastic human being,
as is Dave Rennie. So what do you think about this?
This is an interesting text that came right through and
I think it cuts to the heart of what we
want to talk about in rugby structurally. Is a change
of coach enough to turn things around for rugby in
New Zealand? This Texas says no one cares about the
(05:47):
All Blacks anymore. That's definitely not true. I mean, we
just went to a press conference and thees that are
coming through a press conference live. You know, we don't
do that with anis we consider incredibly important. So you
know someone cares we do yep. But anyway, I'll read
the text, No one cares about the All Blacks anymore.
This is the problem. The best kids sport play league,
(06:10):
basketball or soccer, or sit in their rooms doom scrolling,
playing violent video games and watching shocking adult material that
would curl your toes. Okay, okay, very descriptive.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
That is the problem.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
That is a problem. If they're watching shocking adult material
that would curl your toast. You don't want anyone watching
adult material that would curl your toes. That is a problem.
We are a small country. If we aren't all swimming
in the rugby direction, we will never compete on the
same level. Again, a diff coach is great, and Dave
Rennie is a very good choice. But how many kids
do you know want to stay up late and watch
(06:43):
the All Blacks these days, let alone do the hard
yards to follow in the steps of their heroes.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I think that's an interesting point. Hey, those kids aren't
doom scrolling. They're training themselves to join the menosphere. What
have become tared wives and you know, to have a
successful career as posting online. I suppose there's no reason
(07:10):
why you can't do both. Can you do a bit
of posting and an All Black or an All Blacks
coach at the same time. I still think that's where
Robertson went wrong. He should have kept break dancing, and
he never did.
Speaker 7 (07:21):
Russy Rasmus famously took over in twenty eighteen and won
the Rugby World Cup for the spring Box the next year,
and you could argue the spring Box back then were
more of a hot mess than the All Blacks are.
Ahead of Rennie taking over, it's worth remembering also, this
isn't altogether new ground for Dave Rennie as in coaching
at an international level. He was the Wallabies coach before
he was dumped for the disaster that was Eddie Jones.
(07:43):
If you look at his record with that squad, though,
it's not going to fill you with much confidence. I'm
sorry to say he had a thirty eight percent win rate,
which makes RAS's seventy four percent win rate look positively outstanding.
But if you're being generous, you would have to say
that Dave Rennie actually had the odds stacked against him
with the Wallabies because it was COVID, he had to
face the All Blacks too many times, he had injuries,
(08:04):
he had player unavailability. He managed to beat South Africa twice,
which are saying something. And then neither of his successes,
neither Eddie Jones nor Joshmitt have really done that much better. Now,
Dave Renie's appointment brings in a couple of firsts. The
one that will get all the attention is that he's
the first coach of the All Blacks who was of
Pacificate descent. But the first that I am enjoying today
(08:24):
is that while it's not unusual for ex All Blacks
coaches to take over the Wallabies. This is the first
time the All Blacks have been taken over by a
former Wallabies coach.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, so I think maybe Reny turned up with a
couple of folders, possibly even three or four folders, just
Plan A, Plan B, Plan C, maybe even Plan D
that I think that would have been fresh for an
(08:56):
All Blacks coach that wouldn't never have seen anything like.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
That before us talk Zeth Been.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
He sounds so cynical about the All Blacks and the
way that they've been playing the last million years.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Do you think.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I'm sure Marcus is very excited about it all.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
Where is the All Blacks coach in terms of New
Zealand's most important jobs? Does it go prominence to number one?
All Black coach? Number two? Head of New Zealand number three?
And I'll tell you what people love and comment on
a lot. Who hosts the breakfast show on TV? That's
the way it must go. One, two, three for as
(09:35):
far as the Camarati what they need to say. But yes,
Dave Rennie famous for making the players hitchhike Fukatarni with
no money, I mean, big deal. It sounds like a
bit of a bit of a light stunt to be
but anyway, good on them. Could we have a sweepstake.
(09:56):
I don't know we need a sweepstake, but let's hope
he goes well.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
There.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
We're much analysis on his first matches and I'm looking
forward to that.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
So there we go.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
I thought David kirked and slightly better at this press
conference the last one. He was clear with his information,
and I feel that the country's back now on an
evenish killed the interregnum has gone. The time between coaches
we can rest easy. I guess it would be the
second most important job in this country in terms of
(10:27):
profile and how much it's discussed. You'd think, wouldn't You
can't think what the others would be.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
He's completely wrong about that. Nobody cares about the All
Blacks anymore. I think we've firmly established that throughout this podcast.
So all Blacks coach way down the list. I can't
believe you've put the Prime minister so much so far up?
And also, what's the head of New Zealand? Did he
miss misspeak there? I would say the most important job
(10:56):
as the breakfast host on news towards it'd be. I mean,
think about it. Look how seldom they change that. And
if you're talking about you know, people discuss sing it
and the and the news it makes when it does change.
I mean you most of you out there would be
far too young to remember when Mike Hoskin took over,
(11:17):
but it was a big year. I can assure you
that host of this podcast, obviously that's another big one.
It's only ever been one of those, so very significant.
Just saying and I and unlike recent All Blacks coaches,
I do have a plan B and a Plan C.
(11:37):
And I would never do a defensive bomb inside my
own half. And point look at that. You're in safe
hands and you will be again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
See then us Talk Talk Said Beam. For more from
News Talk Said B, listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk said Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
This is yesterday's news. I am Glen Hartn. We are
looking back at Wednesday, and of course there's really only
one story in the world. Yesterday we finally got an
All Blacks coach. But before we, you know, divert all
our attention to that, let's talk about how the Iran
(00:48):
conflict is affecting us personally New Zealanders. Some of us
stuck in places where we didn't think we were going
to be for this log Can the government help us? Please?
Should the government help us? Please?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I have been stranded overseas before when the Icelandic volcano
a fyat La Yokut. Who's been listening to Google pronunciation me?
I have, and probably still got it wrong, never could
pronounce it. Then when that blew up, I was in
Paris doing the Paris Marathon. Airspace over Europe was closed.
(01:27):
Travel ensurance didn't help, and you were on your own.
And there are worse places to be than trapped in
Paris in the springtime. I will grant you that, and
it was ash blowing into the cities, not around in missiles,
but statistically right now, although that could change it any minute.
There would be more chance of me being run over
(01:49):
on the Shaunzalise back then than killed by a missile
in Dubai right now. But that's statistics and that emotion
doesn't come into it.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
I get that.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
When your loved ones are stranded overseas, you want them
home and you want them safe. But is it on
the taxpayer to provide that? I don't think so. But
am I being a heartless mall I've been accused of
that before, But I just you know, I get the emotion.
(02:21):
I totally do, because I've been there. You want your
loved ones home, you want to get home. But I
never assumed that my first port of call would be
the government.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Another tense meeting in the hathouse last night about what
we're going to do about our trip in May to
Europe through Dubai. The consensus at the moment seems to
be we buy other tickets that don't go through Dubai,
and then at least if the Dubai ones are cancer,
(02:59):
will get our money back on those. But there's no
way around it. It's going to end up costing us money.
It slightly, there's a war going on news talk ze
been Okay, okay, I didn't need to trivialize things. Let's
talk about the real impact of this around thing. It's
(03:22):
going to cost us more for petrol.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
About sixty percent of our energy supply, of what we
use day to day, comes from fossil fuels. Did you
know that? Kelly Echold from Westpac told me yesterday it's
likely petrol prices will go up for us As of yesterday,
he estimated eight cents a liter at the pump within
a week or two. Now, oil prices at the moment
are actually, by comparison to recent years, quite low. But
(03:48):
your one hundred to one hundred and twenty dollars barrel
forecast is key. That's the point at which our inflation
forecast would have to change, he reckons. And we know
what that means, don't we? Price is going up. Think
about how much of what you do in a day
driving a car, using a plastic pen, powering your business trucks,
getting food to supermarkets. Think about how much that uses oil.
(04:10):
We're dependent and once you get those prices going up,
you get general prices going up, and then you get
the reserve banks back up, and then what is this
the event the hell that our recovery dies on. Please
don't don't don't freak out. Don't freak out. We're not
there yet. We're not there. National certainly will be hoping not.
But the ingredients are there, and the language you have
(04:34):
to say coming out of the White House over the
last twenty four hours isn't exactly helping to allay our.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
Fears, is it.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I feel like there's more once in a lifetime events
in our lifetime than the SPM other people's lifetimes. Yeah,
me too.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Talk.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So they finally got a coach for the All Blacks.
Here's hoping Dave Rennie will be able to stop them
just constantly kicking the ball back to the opposition from
inside their own heart. I mean, you can hope.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
It'd be funny if Jamie Joseph had thrown his toys.
They said, we talked to Jamie Jovis, Jamie Joseph. He
said that Rennie's a dick, Rugby sucks, I hate the
whole process, and then hung up on us.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Would have been great for us, it would have been fantastic.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
No, But of course Jamie Joseph is a fantastic human being,
as is Dave Rennie. So what do you think about this?
This is an interesting text that came right through and
I think it cuts to the heart of what we
want to talk about in rugby structurally. Is a change
of coach enough to turn things around for rugby in
New Zealand? This Texas says no one cares about the
(05:47):
All Blacks anymore. That's definitely not true. I mean, we
just went to a press conference and thees that are
coming through a press conference live. You know, we don't
do that with anis we consider incredibly important. So you
know someone cares we do yep. But anyway, I'll read
the text, No one cares about the All Blacks anymore.
This is the problem. The best kids sport play league,
(06:10):
basketball or soccer, or sit in their rooms doom scrolling,
playing violent video games and watching shocking adult material that
would curl your toes. Okay, okay, very descriptive.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
That is the problem.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
That is a problem. If they're watching shocking adult material
that would curl your toast. You don't want anyone watching
adult material that would curl your toes. That is a problem.
We are a small country. If we aren't all swimming
in the rugby direction, we will never compete on the
same level. Again, a diff coach is great, and Dave
Rennie is a very good choice. But how many kids
do you know want to stay up late and watch
(06:43):
the All Blacks these days, let alone do the hard
yards to follow in the steps of their heroes.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I think that's an interesting point. Hey, those kids aren't
doom scrolling. They're training themselves to join the menosphere. What
have become tared wives and you know, to have a
successful career as posting online. I suppose there's no reason
(07:10):
why you can't do both. Can you do a bit
of posting and an All Black or an All Blacks
coach at the same time. I still think that's where
Robertson went wrong. He should have kept break dancing, and
he never did.
Speaker 7 (07:21):
Russy Rasmus famously took over in twenty eighteen and won
the Rugby World Cup for the spring Box the next year,
and you could argue the spring Box back then were
more of a hot mess than the All Blacks are.
Ahead of Rennie taking over, it's worth remembering also, this
isn't altogether new ground for Dave Rennie as in coaching
at an international level. He was the Wallabies coach before
he was dumped for the disaster that was Eddie Jones.
(07:43):
If you look at his record with that squad, though,
it's not going to fill you with much confidence. I'm
sorry to say he had a thirty eight percent win rate,
which makes RAS's seventy four percent win rate look positively outstanding.
But if you're being generous, you would have to say
that Dave Rennie actually had the odds stacked against him
with the Wallabies because it was COVID, he had to
face the All Blacks too many times, he had injuries,
(08:04):
he had player unavailability. He managed to beat South Africa twice,
which are saying something. And then neither of his successes,
neither Eddie Jones nor Joshmitt have really done that much better. Now,
Dave Renie's appointment brings in a couple of firsts. The
one that will get all the attention is that he's
the first coach of the All Blacks who was of
Pacificate descent. But the first that I am enjoying today
(08:24):
is that while it's not unusual for ex All Blacks
coaches to take over the Wallabies. This is the first
time the All Blacks have been taken over by a
former Wallabies coach.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, so I think maybe Reny turned up with a
couple of folders, possibly even three or four folders, just
Plan A, Plan B, Plan C, maybe even Plan D
that I think that would have been fresh for an
(08:56):
All Blacks coach that wouldn't never have seen anything like.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
That before us talk Zeth Been.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
He sounds so cynical about the All Blacks and the
way that they've been playing the last million years.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Do you think.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I'm sure Marcus is very excited about it all.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
Where is the All Blacks coach in terms of New
Zealand's most important jobs? Does it go prominence to number one?
All Black coach? Number two? Head of New Zealand number three?
And I'll tell you what people love and comment on
a lot. Who hosts the breakfast show on TV? That's
the way it must go. One, two, three for as
(09:35):
far as the Camarati what they need to say. But yes,
Dave Rennie famous for making the players hitchhike Fukatarni with
no money, I mean, big deal. It sounds like a
bit of a bit of a light stunt to be
but anyway, good on them. Could we have a sweepstake.
(09:56):
I don't know we need a sweepstake, but let's hope
he goes well.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
There.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
We're much analysis on his first matches and I'm looking
forward to that.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
So there we go.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
I thought David kirked and slightly better at this press
conference the last one. He was clear with his information,
and I feel that the country's back now on an
evenish killed the interregnum has gone. The time between coaches
we can rest easy. I guess it would be the
second most important job in this country in terms of
(10:27):
profile and how much it's discussed. You'd think, wouldn't You
can't think what the others would be.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
He's completely wrong about that. Nobody cares about the All
Blacks anymore. I think we've firmly established that throughout this podcast.
So all Blacks coach way down the list. I can't
believe you've put the Prime minister so much so far up?
And also, what's the head of New Zealand? Did he
miss misspeak there? I would say the most important job
(10:56):
as the breakfast host on news towards it'd be. I mean,
think about it. Look how seldom they change that. And
if you're talking about you know, people discuss sing it
and the and the news it makes when it does change.
I mean you most of you out there would be
far too young to remember when Mike Hoskin took over,
(11:17):
but it was a big year. I can assure you
that host of this podcast, obviously that's another big one.
It's only ever been one of those, so very significant.
Just saying and I and unlike recent All Blacks coaches,
I do have a plan B and a Plan C.
(11:37):
And I would never do a defensive bomb inside my
own half. And point look at that. You're in safe
hands and you will be again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
See then us Talk Talk Said Beam. For more from
News Talk Said B, listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcast on iHeartRadio
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