February 8, 2026 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the long weekend on Newstalk ZB) Even for Missing Waitangi Day/I Thought School Was All About Judging/Who Can Stop the Poo?/When Privacy Died/Rough Sunday Morning for the Chiefs... and All of Us
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean the
Long weekend edition first of this Today's news. I am
Glen Hart and we are looking back at Sunday, at Saturday,
at Friday. How could you turn and listen to this?
Down this sting makes sense, don't know? And so the
(00:45):
ways that doing school assessment have sort of changed, sort
of haven't And we'll get into that shortly. Wellington water
is poos literally the Epstein files, the ramifications of all
this keep unraveling around the world and super rugby starts.
I know it's rugby tired again. Before any of that,
(01:09):
let's go back to Friday, back to White Tangy Day
and Tama pol Attaka, Minister of Maori Development, but didn't
go to White Tangy.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Interesting, you're at the airport coming to Auckland. Why aren't
you at White Tungy today.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
I've been up here for nearly the whole week and
I'm returning to attend the celebrations in Hamilton and particularly
in Hamilton Weste my own electoral.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Isn't it important to be there on the day just
to celebrate the document that brought us all together in
the first place.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Well, there are a range of activities and events that
take place during the week and I've been the ministerial
lead for those. There are the ministers that will be
there today, particularly doctor Shane Matua Takta, doctor Shan Vetti
who will be representing the government as a senior minister
in place. And of course I'm coming back to Hamilton
to represent the people Hamilton Weste and our own celebrations
(02:01):
and actually to attend a tungy done that way.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Did you feel that Mari at White Tangy were disappointed
in your decision?
Speaker 5 (02:09):
No, not at all. People recognize that all of us
have our own electrics to attend to and go back
to and represent as well. So I'm very happy to
Riturn and since our chues stations we've been up when
I was a whole range of other activities.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Now, while you were at White Tonguey, some of the
crowd called you a sellout and some called you a traitor.
Now how did you handle that?
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Oh, people have some strong views, but I listen and
hear their views and represent the government on a range
of portfollowers and demonstrate and advise and advocate for the
work that we've been involved in which has been very
engaging and partnering of minor organizations up here in Northland
but actually throughout the country.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I reckon going to Hamilton is a good excuse for
getting out of anything they're saying. You don't really need
any other reason than that to say, I know, I've
decided to go to Hamilton and I think that should
get you up personally.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
News talk has it been?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
That's probably one of the I used to have a
mass teacher in sixth form who would let me be
late to class if I could come up with a
decent excuse, otherwise I would get into trouble. I never
thought of that one though. I should have gone with
I'm off the Hamilton. I don't know how well that
works when you're at Cambridge High which is only just
down the road.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
But anyway, the one thing that was drilled into me
as a parent of a new entrant was that we're
all in this together. Your child's learning success doesn't just
come down to a competent teacher, preferably in a single
classroom with adequate teachers aid support. It requires parents to
participate in and take responsibility for their child's education. But
if you don't have a clear understanding of where your
(03:46):
child is at, whether they're thriving or quietly struggling, and
probably more importantly, knowing how you can help them along,
then we're not really all in it together. We're all
just floundering. These early years are critical for establishing foundational
literacy and numerousy skills. If you struggle during these years,
you're more likely to continue to struggle. The use of
(04:09):
the five progress markers to describe your child's learning progress
it's taken a bit of a flax for would say
being a little bit too sophisticated, but look, it comes
with an explanation of why a progress marker was chosen,
so I'm sure that parents will get their heads around it.
More importantly, it comes with information for how parents can
support the next learning steps, and it's going to be
(04:31):
followed up with twice yearly progressed check ins for students
in years three to eight, which will allow parents to
see progress over the year. None of this is intended
to add pressure or judgment on children or undermine the
student voice, but if it provides clarity and more detailed
reporting on academic achievement that Erica Stanford promises it does,
then it is another step in the right direction to
(04:53):
provide students with the support they need to flourish.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Is it school about judging children?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I certainly felt like that was the whole point of
it when I went to it. Probably one of the
reasons I hated it so much. I think I thought,
this is why we were going back to the old days,
back to the days when did get judged and told
how stupid they were as regularly as possible. I thought
that's what it was supposed to be all about, as
(05:21):
usual with anything to do with school. I've got it wrong.
You talk, okay, So I'm not quite sure how many
people rush down to the beach when the weather has
got hot in Wellington over the weekend, given that it
was full of poo.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Now you've got the long pipe that's discharging the streete
how long is it going to be discharging raw sewage,
albeit further out to see well?
Speaker 7 (05:45):
I think that could be months. Because what you've got
is a plant that is a sort of a three
or four or five story building, which is unlike any
other plant that I've known, but it's because of the
topography of Wellington, and when it backed up, it filled
the building up and it fried a lot of the
electrical circuits. And what's what needs to happen. That's fullowly
(06:09):
cleaned out as an assessment of that, So what is
actually involved, what's broken, what what isn't and then we
will be in a better position to sort of understand
what's involved in fixing and perhaps how long that might take.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Does that mean that this the long fell? Does it
remove the threat to the beaches or are we talking
about the potential for beaches to be closed for life time?
Speaker 7 (06:32):
Look, I wouldn't want to say so.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah you nevigate swinging in the ocean down there again? Guys,
sorry about that. I hope you enjoyed it while it lasted.
But yeah, we just can't have nice things. And when
I say we, I mean human beings because eventually we
just pull it up. Classic example of the kind of
(06:56):
mess that we make for ourselves, the Epstein Files. It
seems like every man and his dog implicated, even some women.
And there's the grizzly dirty business. Jack's been watching it
all unfold.
Speaker 8 (07:17):
Ariyan de Rothschild, who's the CEO of the Rothschild Swiss Bank,
previously said she only met Epstein on bank business, but
the files suggest a much much chummier relationship, Epstein inviting
her to stay at his apartment. And my third takeaway
is that even though nothing illegal is alleged on their behalf,
(07:39):
some of the high profile names associated with Epstein have
I think irredeemably tarnished their reputations through their enduring relationships
with him. Bill Gates continuing to communicate with Epstein for years,
Noam Chomsky tendering advice to Epstein on surviving a media
(08:01):
storm relating to his criminal charges, And of course, the
greatest fall from grace outside of Epstein himself, of the
former Prince Andrew totally disgraced, stripped of his title, with
no realistic path back to public respect. The files may
not have proved a great conspiracy, but they have been
(08:22):
incredibly illuminating, and as I've digested all of the reporting
and analysis the communications of incredibly powerful people who never
imagined their messages would be publicized, I've been reminded of
a salient quote. The measure of a person's character is
what they do when no one is watching.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, it's actually not a bad way to sum things up.
And I think I said in one of my podcasts
last week, it's not really my podcast, they are our podcasts.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
We're all in this together.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
But yeah, I think I said that a lot of
this stuff was happening at a time when the majority
of us were quite used to the idea that privacy
was dead and that everything that we do will appear
online eventually. We were just getting used to that idea.
I think I think we've come to grips of that now,
(09:19):
and we know that privacy no longer exists, and so
maybe that's a good thing. You know, it's unlight disinfectant.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Blah blah blah news talk zi bean.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Let's finish with rugby, which is ironic because I thought
Raby was finished given all the ongoing ructions of trying
to find new coach for the All Blacks, YadA YadA,
But it turns out they're still doing it and they're
going to be ramping it up again for the old
super Rugby.
Speaker 9 (09:51):
Now.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I saw us get absolutely handled by the bugms of
the Sevens.
Speaker 9 (09:54):
Yesty.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Anyway, that's neither he and all there. This gives me
a good opportunity to really promote the team that nobody
has in the sencestin that time. I'm talking about even
though they've been historically quite successful over the years the Chiefs.
Speaker 10 (10:09):
How are you finding and enjoying the head coaching role.
Speaker 9 (10:13):
Yeah, it's been it's been intense, but you really enjoying
the challenge. And you know, since December the group, the
stuff been a real pleasure to work alongside.
Speaker 10 (10:27):
You say intense. So what have been the main changes
you've noticed going from being an assistant coach to being
the head coach.
Speaker 9 (10:36):
I think it's just the coordination, the communication. You know,
all the sort all the things that make up you know,
fifty five players, you know, weekly schedule and twenty odd
staff and just making sure there's clear comms and you know,
(10:56):
the coordination of tim ends and meetings and all sorts
of things like that. Quite a lot goes into just
trying to get eighty minutes of the game done every.
Speaker 10 (11:08):
Week, a lot more in your diary. By the sounds
of it, you beat you beat the Hurricanes twenty nine
zero and potty to it yesterday. We did see though
former Wallabies midfield I like ie for cat de limping
off with what looked to be a reasonably serious knee injury.
Have you got any update on that.
Speaker 9 (11:27):
Not as yet, not right now. We were just trying
to organize the appropriate skins. We flew straight back after
the game last night and so just Sunday morning here
trying to get things organized. So yeah, it looks significant.
He was in a bit of discomfort, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I think most Raby players are and a significant amount
of discomfort comes Sunday morning, aren't they. I don't, In fact,
I don't even know that you have could be a
rugby player. I don't know how comfortable I was feeling
on Sunday morning. I do what I had ever happened
the night before long weekend at the beach.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
That might have said too much? If I have, I
hope you're not listening anymore and that you didn't hear
me say too much. But I do hope that you'll
come back and listen to me say other things tomorrow.
I'll see you there.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Used Talking Talkings it beam for more from News Talk
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on iHeartRadio,
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean the
Long weekend edition first of this Today's news. I am
Glen Hart and we are looking back at Sunday, at Saturday,
at Friday. How could you turn and listen to this?
Down this sting makes sense, don't know? And so the
(00:45):
ways that doing school assessment have sort of changed, sort
of haven't And we'll get into that shortly. Wellington water
is poos literally the Epstein files, the ramifications of all
this keep unraveling around the world and super rugby starts.
I know it's rugby tired again. Before any of that,
(01:09):
let's go back to Friday, back to White Tangy Day
and Tama pol Attaka, Minister of Maori Development, but didn't
go to White Tangy.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Interesting, you're at the airport coming to Auckland. Why aren't
you at White Tungy today.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
I've been up here for nearly the whole week and
I'm returning to attend the celebrations in Hamilton and particularly
in Hamilton Weste my own electoral.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Isn't it important to be there on the day just
to celebrate the document that brought us all together in
the first place.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Well, there are a range of activities and events that
take place during the week and I've been the ministerial
lead for those. There are the ministers that will be
there today, particularly doctor Shane Matua Takta, doctor Shan Vetti
who will be representing the government as a senior minister
in place. And of course I'm coming back to Hamilton
to represent the people Hamilton Weste and our own celebrations
(02:01):
and actually to attend a tungy done that way.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Did you feel that Mari at White Tangy were disappointed
in your decision?
Speaker 5 (02:09):
No, not at all. People recognize that all of us
have our own electrics to attend to and go back
to and represent as well. So I'm very happy to
Riturn and since our chues stations we've been up when
I was a whole range of other activities.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Now, while you were at White Tonguey, some of the
crowd called you a sellout and some called you a traitor.
Now how did you handle that?
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Oh, people have some strong views, but I listen and
hear their views and represent the government on a range
of portfollowers and demonstrate and advise and advocate for the
work that we've been involved in which has been very
engaging and partnering of minor organizations up here in Northland
but actually throughout the country.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I reckon going to Hamilton is a good excuse for
getting out of anything they're saying. You don't really need
any other reason than that to say, I know, I've
decided to go to Hamilton and I think that should
get you up personally.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
News talk has it been?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
That's probably one of the I used to have a
mass teacher in sixth form who would let me be
late to class if I could come up with a
decent excuse, otherwise I would get into trouble. I never
thought of that one though. I should have gone with
I'm off the Hamilton. I don't know how well that
works when you're at Cambridge High which is only just
down the road.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
But anyway, the one thing that was drilled into me
as a parent of a new entrant was that we're
all in this together. Your child's learning success doesn't just
come down to a competent teacher, preferably in a single
classroom with adequate teachers aid support. It requires parents to
participate in and take responsibility for their child's education. But
if you don't have a clear understanding of where your
(03:46):
child is at, whether they're thriving or quietly struggling, and
probably more importantly, knowing how you can help them along,
then we're not really all in it together. We're all
just floundering. These early years are critical for establishing foundational
literacy and numerousy skills. If you struggle during these years,
you're more likely to continue to struggle. The use of
(04:09):
the five progress markers to describe your child's learning progress
it's taken a bit of a flax for would say
being a little bit too sophisticated, but look, it comes
with an explanation of why a progress marker was chosen,
so I'm sure that parents will get their heads around it.
More importantly, it comes with information for how parents can
support the next learning steps, and it's going to be
(04:31):
followed up with twice yearly progressed check ins for students
in years three to eight, which will allow parents to
see progress over the year. None of this is intended
to add pressure or judgment on children or undermine the
student voice, but if it provides clarity and more detailed
reporting on academic achievement that Erica Stanford promises it does,
then it is another step in the right direction to
(04:53):
provide students with the support they need to flourish.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Is it school about judging children?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I certainly felt like that was the whole point of
it when I went to it. Probably one of the
reasons I hated it so much. I think I thought,
this is why we were going back to the old days,
back to the days when did get judged and told
how stupid they were as regularly as possible. I thought
that's what it was supposed to be all about, as
(05:21):
usual with anything to do with school. I've got it wrong.
You talk, okay, So I'm not quite sure how many
people rush down to the beach when the weather has
got hot in Wellington over the weekend, given that it
was full of poo.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Now you've got the long pipe that's discharging the streete
how long is it going to be discharging raw sewage,
albeit further out to see well?
Speaker 7 (05:45):
I think that could be months. Because what you've got
is a plant that is a sort of a three
or four or five story building, which is unlike any
other plant that I've known, but it's because of the
topography of Wellington, and when it backed up, it filled
the building up and it fried a lot of the
electrical circuits. And what's what needs to happen. That's fullowly
(06:09):
cleaned out as an assessment of that, So what is
actually involved, what's broken, what what isn't and then we
will be in a better position to sort of understand
what's involved in fixing and perhaps how long that might take.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Does that mean that this the long fell? Does it
remove the threat to the beaches or are we talking
about the potential for beaches to be closed for life time?
Speaker 7 (06:32):
Look, I wouldn't want to say so.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah you nevigate swinging in the ocean down there again? Guys,
sorry about that. I hope you enjoyed it while it lasted.
But yeah, we just can't have nice things. And when
I say we, I mean human beings because eventually we
just pull it up. Classic example of the kind of
(06:56):
mess that we make for ourselves, the Epstein Files. It
seems like every man and his dog implicated, even some women.
And there's the grizzly dirty business. Jack's been watching it
all unfold.
Speaker 8 (07:17):
Ariyan de Rothschild, who's the CEO of the Rothschild Swiss Bank,
previously said she only met Epstein on bank business, but
the files suggest a much much chummier relationship, Epstein inviting
her to stay at his apartment. And my third takeaway
is that even though nothing illegal is alleged on their behalf,
(07:39):
some of the high profile names associated with Epstein have
I think irredeemably tarnished their reputations through their enduring relationships
with him. Bill Gates continuing to communicate with Epstein for years,
Noam Chomsky tendering advice to Epstein on surviving a media
(08:01):
storm relating to his criminal charges, And of course, the
greatest fall from grace outside of Epstein himself, of the
former Prince Andrew totally disgraced, stripped of his title, with
no realistic path back to public respect. The files may
not have proved a great conspiracy, but they have been
(08:22):
incredibly illuminating, and as I've digested all of the reporting
and analysis the communications of incredibly powerful people who never
imagined their messages would be publicized, I've been reminded of
a salient quote. The measure of a person's character is
what they do when no one is watching.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, it's actually not a bad way to sum things up.
And I think I said in one of my podcasts
last week, it's not really my podcast, they are our podcasts.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
We're all in this together.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
But yeah, I think I said that a lot of
this stuff was happening at a time when the majority
of us were quite used to the idea that privacy
was dead and that everything that we do will appear
online eventually. We were just getting used to that idea.
I think I think we've come to grips of that now,
(09:19):
and we know that privacy no longer exists, and so
maybe that's a good thing. You know, it's unlight disinfectant.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Blah blah blah news talk zi bean.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Let's finish with rugby, which is ironic because I thought
Raby was finished given all the ongoing ructions of trying
to find new coach for the All Blacks, YadA YadA,
But it turns out they're still doing it and they're
going to be ramping it up again for the old
super Rugby.
Speaker 9 (09:51):
Now.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I saw us get absolutely handled by the bugms of
the Sevens.
Speaker 9 (09:54):
Yesty.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Anyway, that's neither he and all there. This gives me
a good opportunity to really promote the team that nobody
has in the sencestin that time. I'm talking about even
though they've been historically quite successful over the years the Chiefs.
Speaker 10 (10:09):
How are you finding and enjoying the head coaching role.
Speaker 9 (10:13):
Yeah, it's been it's been intense, but you really enjoying
the challenge. And you know, since December the group, the
stuff been a real pleasure to work alongside.
Speaker 10 (10:27):
You say intense. So what have been the main changes
you've noticed going from being an assistant coach to being
the head coach.
Speaker 9 (10:36):
I think it's just the coordination, the communication. You know,
all the sort all the things that make up you know,
fifty five players, you know, weekly schedule and twenty odd
staff and just making sure there's clear comms and you know,
(10:56):
the coordination of tim ends and meetings and all sorts
of things like that. Quite a lot goes into just
trying to get eighty minutes of the game done every.
Speaker 10 (11:08):
Week, a lot more in your diary. By the sounds
of it, you beat you beat the Hurricanes twenty nine
zero and potty to it yesterday. We did see though
former Wallabies midfield I like ie for cat de limping
off with what looked to be a reasonably serious knee injury.
Have you got any update on that.
Speaker 9 (11:27):
Not as yet, not right now. We were just trying
to organize the appropriate skins. We flew straight back after
the game last night and so just Sunday morning here
trying to get things organized. So yeah, it looks significant.
He was in a bit of discomfort, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I think most Raby players are and a significant amount
of discomfort comes Sunday morning, aren't they. I don't, In fact,
I don't even know that you have could be a
rugby player. I don't know how comfortable I was feeling
on Sunday morning. I do what I had ever happened
the night before long weekend at the beach.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
That might have said too much? If I have, I
hope you're not listening anymore and that you didn't hear
me say too much. But I do hope that you'll
come back and listen to me say other things tomorrow.
I'll see you there.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Used Talking Talkings it beam for more from News Talk
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