August 9, 2026 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) Poking the Past/Just When Luxon Gets it Right, He Gets it Wrong/Metcalf Might Be the Key/Bryan Is So Damn Canadian
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the being the
weekend edition. First of yesterday's news Irom Glen Heart and
yesterday was Sunday, the day before that was Saturday. That
adds up to a weekend, and we'll be discussing Christopher
Luxon's leadership again. This might be the most discussed leadership
that we've ever discussed, this Bucks leadership. The Warriors absolutely
(00:49):
killed the Panthers, which is probably a little bit unexpected,
but welcome. And Brian Adams is back here. He's on
his way back here. It seems nice in New Years
Canadian before any of that. Happy birthday to us, one
hundredth birthday for ZIB. You've probably heard about this by now.
We certainly were discussing it weekend. Here's the guy who
(01:09):
actually hired me on the station twenty five years ago.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
So you wrote your book to mark the eightieth anniversary
of zb and you were able to reflect on the
station's history and success. Then how do you reflect on
the achievement of one hundred years?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Well, as long as you didn't ask weren't going to
ask me? Did I start one hundred years ago? But
I have been around a while. Look, the success has
been has been wonderful, and I'm delighted that it's continued
on in such a powerful way. I mean it was
a tough start, Francesca. I mean a change needed to
(01:47):
be made back at the eighties, and suddenly this iconic
radio station one ZBA, which had been around forever, went
from number one in the market to number six in
the market. And so the change to the new format
was a pretty pretty tough move. But once it got
(02:08):
back confront, you know, it's just never really stopped. Continues
to be Auckland's radio station of first choice, which is wonderful.
So yeah, I'm delighted that zid B rolls on and
continues with it successful formula. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
So Bill francis there. He used to be my boss.
I don't think he's he's aged today. Actually, I'm pretty
sure he's been here for most of the hundred years
of ZIBB, and he hasn't got any I can say
these things about him now because he's not my boss anymore,
he said, So he's got a lot to answer for
(02:44):
hiring me, unleashing me on the ZIB staff and the
audience at that minut's talk. I'm not sure who hired
Raman quite remember, but anyway, he was having a fine
old time on Saturday night on a special one hundredth
(03:05):
anniversary edition of In My Day, and Patrick Grace called it.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Pat, it's been twenty five years since I last saw you.
How are you?
Speaker 6 (03:14):
I'm fine? Thank you were a man, you old piker.
You've you've brought me out of retirement excellent, customed as
I am to public speaking.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
We've already had calls about you and your work, and
I have to say that you were a very positive
influence on me when you were doing breakfast radio in
wangan Nui. How long did you do that for?
Speaker 6 (03:36):
Oh? I can't remember as three years. I think it
was about three years until somebody else who came along
was more entertaining and more communicative. I was the Clouds
and Lulla Land.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
I think I was, No, it was, it was. It
was incredible. Now the question I need to ask you,
apparently is were you from in the cargo?
Speaker 7 (03:55):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (03:55):
Yes, I'm an Indicargol born and bred man. I had
lived there for nineteen years. Indeed, it was hard to
get me out. I don't know how I ever left
the place, to be honest, but I did. And the best,
the best thing I ever did. Mother isn't happy. Of course,
Dad was pleased to get rid of me, because I thought,
as Lindsey said, and I'm sure it was Lindsey Fruan
that you're talking about now, Lindsey Freud is the only
(04:18):
Lindsay I knew that I would have invited into my
inner sanctum of my FOURSI day studio, which I had
set up in the lounge. I had chimes, I had
a selection of forty five LPs. I had an old
radiogram that just about kill myself wiring into a microphone.
(04:39):
And then I had a speaker up the hall into
the bedroom where Dad used to go to bed every
Sunday night at about six o'clock, and I would play
him serials that I had recorded during the week and
play radio stations. And it was a wonderful, wonderful time.
And I even had a big light outside in a
(04:59):
cellophone red box that said on the air. And I
don't know how I didn't call myself, to be honest,
because I'm not a technical person.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Either, which I don't understand how I've ended up being
the technical director of new talks. Be again, Phil Pratz
has got a lot poser for there. It set the
first time I've ever put some in my day, and
the weekend news talks have been probably do that a
bit more often, shouldn't I talk?
Speaker 8 (05:30):
Right?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
So it was yet another week of handwringing over Christopher
Luckson's leadership style. Yeah, because he.
Speaker 9 (05:43):
Well, for various reasons, it's just hard not to be
left with the impression that at times Christopher lux and
lacks what is a vital instinct for understanding how his
comments will land. And in an election campaign where those
communication skills are going to be continuously tested day after
(06:03):
day after day after day, it constitutes are not insignificant
liability for the party. The conventional wisdom says a leadership
change risks damaging the party's support, But I just think
it's inconceivable that after this week members of that caucus
won't at the very least be super frustrated and agitating.
(06:26):
And remember, the question isn't simply if Christopher Luxen can
lead the party to an election result that allows National
to form a government with its coalition partners. It's what
that government looks like. It's what that government looks like,
and whether the party risks being so diminished in a
coalition that it defeats the whole purpose of winning in
(06:47):
the first.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It is completely out of whack when you think about it,
isn't it just how much sort of profile and sway
New Zealand First and Act, but even more specifically with
Sir Peters and David Seymour seem to have. It's it's
(07:10):
it's disproportional, disproportionate. Not sure, let's move on. Uh, you've
got to say, Warriors really did the job on Friday
night against the top of the table Panthers. Why don't
(07:35):
they there wasn't that team turn up every week, week
after week.
Speaker 8 (07:38):
How impressive was that Warrior's performance against the competition leaders?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Well?
Speaker 10 (07:44):
Yeah, I think it certainly put the competition on notice.
I think we've all been sort of speaking all year
about the you know the importance of those guys finishing
one or two so they get some finals at Mount
Smart and I sort of watched it obviously, Sorry for
the noise on at the airport about to go home.
But obviously see it, you know, on a weekly basis.
(08:07):
The crowd and the they did that they bring and
the performance out there. Mouth smart, but to be their
live was something that was really good to experience. And
now I really understand what they mean. If they can
get a couple of home finals, they're going to be
very hard to be.
Speaker 8 (08:20):
What was it about the Warriors last night that gave
them the edge?
Speaker 10 (08:25):
I think like their physicality, their intensity obviously you know,
being indigenous around, and the cultural aspect of it. And
to see the guys, you know, or the Marriay guys
sort of performed the Harker beforehand and you just saw
how that engaged the crowd. It kind of reminded me
of like a Test match and then from there, you know,
the onset. They were just really physical. I thought they
(08:47):
were led really well by obviously Barnett that I thought
James last night which just exceptional, especially in those moments
where the momentums flying back to Penrith there in the
second half. Some of his leadership there was there for
all to see. And obviously, you know, I think they've
been really they look really settled with their attacking structures.
(09:07):
I thought they'd right last week against the Titans. Obviously
with that win, but I don't know. They just seem
to be all full of confidence and really well connected
and they got great balance.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
So former panther there Ryan Goodler, a bit of a
regular league ledge. It's always fun, isn't it to make
somebody from the team that's just got the can say
nice things about the opposition. Yeah, it's quite Yeah, good
good on Jason Pine for that amazing news talk has
(09:45):
it been with Brian Adams? I feel like Brian Adams
is one of those artists that it's cool to say
how uncool he is, but I don't actually think that
he's even done anything uncool. I think he's pretty cool.
He's still got it, and from what I've seen, he
(10:06):
can still sing and play the guitar like nobody's business.
A bit of a cracky voice, though, I guess when
you're sing your ringing out like that for decades, how
it goes.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
You are now sixteen studio albums deep. You don't have
anything left to prove in this world, So why do
you keep making new music?
Speaker 7 (10:28):
Huh? Well, I mean that's what I do, and that's
what I That's how I started out years ago, and
I got asked that question by my ex manager actually
one day, and he says, why do you bother? And
I said, because that's what I do. And I'm not
(10:51):
one of those people that sort of sort of rests
on my laurels and just sort of quite happy to
just go back and do the same thing over and over.
I enjoy the creativity and I really like, you know,
putting songs together. It's one of the great most satisfying
things a musician can do. And I still got the
(11:13):
melodies in my head, so I got to get them out. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
I feel like fans have kind of all landed on
the same thing with Roll with the Punches, that there
is no cynicism on this record. It is. It is
sort of unfaultingly sincere was that a deliberate stance in
what I suppose is a bit of a cynical kind
of age.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
I don't know what you mean.
Speaker 8 (11:35):
You don't think there's any You don't you don't see
the lack of cynicism in this.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
Oh well, I'm not. I'm not a cynical person except
with my friends. But you know, the song Roll with
the Punches is about getting knocked down and getting back
up again. So you could say, maybe that's kind of cynical,
but it's not really.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, I got the vague impression there that he doesn't
he's so nice that he literally doesn't know what cynicism is.
He doesn't know how to do it. You wouldn't recognize
it if you tripped over it, lovely guy. Yeah, I'm
a fan. I've always been a fan of Brian. I
(12:22):
am glad heart that has been newsbooks. They had been
the weekend edition. I am quite cynical, but I'll try,
and you put a bit of a lid on it
for the Morrow's episode. You can only try. I mean,
you try. Sometimes you fail, but at least you try it.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Right us talk as Talks it been for more from
News Talks b listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the being the
weekend edition. First of yesterday's news Irom Glen Heart and
yesterday was Sunday, the day before that was Saturday. That
adds up to a weekend, and we'll be discussing Christopher
Luxon's leadership again. This might be the most discussed leadership
that we've ever discussed, this Bucks leadership. The Warriors absolutely
(00:49):
killed the Panthers, which is probably a little bit unexpected,
but welcome. And Brian Adams is back here. He's on
his way back here. It seems nice in New Years
Canadian before any of that. Happy birthday to us, one
hundredth birthday for ZIB. You've probably heard about this by now.
We certainly were discussing it weekend. Here's the guy who
(01:09):
actually hired me on the station twenty five years ago.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
So you wrote your book to mark the eightieth anniversary
of zb and you were able to reflect on the
station's history and success. Then how do you reflect on
the achievement of one hundred years?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Well, as long as you didn't ask weren't going to
ask me? Did I start one hundred years ago? But
I have been around a while. Look, the success has
been has been wonderful, and I'm delighted that it's continued
on in such a powerful way. I mean it was
a tough start, Francesca. I mean a change needed to
(01:47):
be made back at the eighties, and suddenly this iconic
radio station one ZBA, which had been around forever, went
from number one in the market to number six in
the market. And so the change to the new format
was a pretty pretty tough move. But once it got
(02:08):
back confront, you know, it's just never really stopped. Continues
to be Auckland's radio station of first choice, which is wonderful.
So yeah, I'm delighted that zid B rolls on and
continues with it successful formula. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
So Bill francis there. He used to be my boss.
I don't think he's he's aged today. Actually, I'm pretty
sure he's been here for most of the hundred years
of ZIBB, and he hasn't got any I can say
these things about him now because he's not my boss anymore,
he said, So he's got a lot to answer for
(02:44):
hiring me, unleashing me on the ZIB staff and the
audience at that minut's talk. I'm not sure who hired
Raman quite remember, but anyway, he was having a fine
old time on Saturday night on a special one hundredth
(03:05):
anniversary edition of In My Day, and Patrick Grace called it.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Pat, it's been twenty five years since I last saw you.
How are you?
Speaker 6 (03:14):
I'm fine? Thank you were a man, you old piker.
You've you've brought me out of retirement excellent, customed as
I am to public speaking.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
We've already had calls about you and your work, and
I have to say that you were a very positive
influence on me when you were doing breakfast radio in
wangan Nui. How long did you do that for?
Speaker 6 (03:36):
Oh? I can't remember as three years. I think it
was about three years until somebody else who came along
was more entertaining and more communicative. I was the Clouds
and Lulla Land.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
I think I was, No, it was, it was. It
was incredible. Now the question I need to ask you,
apparently is were you from in the cargo?
Speaker 7 (03:55):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (03:55):
Yes, I'm an Indicargol born and bred man. I had
lived there for nineteen years. Indeed, it was hard to
get me out. I don't know how I ever left
the place, to be honest, but I did. And the best,
the best thing I ever did. Mother isn't happy. Of course,
Dad was pleased to get rid of me, because I thought,
as Lindsey said, and I'm sure it was Lindsey Fruan
that you're talking about now, Lindsey Freud is the only
(04:18):
Lindsay I knew that I would have invited into my
inner sanctum of my FOURSI day studio, which I had
set up in the lounge. I had chimes, I had
a selection of forty five LPs. I had an old
radiogram that just about kill myself wiring into a microphone.
(04:39):
And then I had a speaker up the hall into
the bedroom where Dad used to go to bed every
Sunday night at about six o'clock, and I would play
him serials that I had recorded during the week and
play radio stations. And it was a wonderful, wonderful time.
And I even had a big light outside in a
(04:59):
cellophone red box that said on the air. And I
don't know how I didn't call myself, to be honest,
because I'm not a technical person.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Either, which I don't understand how I've ended up being
the technical director of new talks. Be again, Phil Pratz
has got a lot poser for there. It set the
first time I've ever put some in my day, and
the weekend news talks have been probably do that a
bit more often, shouldn't I talk?
Speaker 8 (05:30):
Right?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
So it was yet another week of handwringing over Christopher
Luckson's leadership style. Yeah, because he.
Speaker 9 (05:43):
Well, for various reasons, it's just hard not to be
left with the impression that at times Christopher lux and
lacks what is a vital instinct for understanding how his
comments will land. And in an election campaign where those
communication skills are going to be continuously tested day after
(06:03):
day after day after day, it constitutes are not insignificant
liability for the party. The conventional wisdom says a leadership
change risks damaging the party's support, But I just think
it's inconceivable that after this week members of that caucus
won't at the very least be super frustrated and agitating.
(06:26):
And remember, the question isn't simply if Christopher Luxen can
lead the party to an election result that allows National
to form a government with its coalition partners. It's what
that government looks like. It's what that government looks like,
and whether the party risks being so diminished in a
coalition that it defeats the whole purpose of winning in
(06:47):
the first.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It is completely out of whack when you think about it,
isn't it just how much sort of profile and sway
New Zealand First and Act, but even more specifically with
Sir Peters and David Seymour seem to have. It's it's
(07:10):
it's disproportional, disproportionate. Not sure, let's move on. Uh, you've
got to say, Warriors really did the job on Friday
night against the top of the table Panthers. Why don't
(07:35):
they there wasn't that team turn up every week, week
after week.
Speaker 8 (07:38):
How impressive was that Warrior's performance against the competition leaders?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Well?
Speaker 10 (07:44):
Yeah, I think it certainly put the competition on notice.
I think we've all been sort of speaking all year
about the you know the importance of those guys finishing
one or two so they get some finals at Mount
Smart and I sort of watched it obviously, Sorry for
the noise on at the airport about to go home.
But obviously see it, you know, on a weekly basis.
(08:07):
The crowd and the they did that they bring and
the performance out there. Mouth smart, but to be their
live was something that was really good to experience. And
now I really understand what they mean. If they can
get a couple of home finals, they're going to be
very hard to be.
Speaker 8 (08:20):
What was it about the Warriors last night that gave
them the edge?
Speaker 10 (08:25):
I think like their physicality, their intensity obviously you know,
being indigenous around, and the cultural aspect of it. And
to see the guys, you know, or the Marriay guys
sort of performed the Harker beforehand and you just saw
how that engaged the crowd. It kind of reminded me
of like a Test match and then from there, you know,
the onset. They were just really physical. I thought they
(08:47):
were led really well by obviously Barnett that I thought
James last night which just exceptional, especially in those moments
where the momentums flying back to Penrith there in the
second half. Some of his leadership there was there for
all to see. And obviously, you know, I think they've
been really they look really settled with their attacking structures.
(09:07):
I thought they'd right last week against the Titans. Obviously
with that win, but I don't know. They just seem
to be all full of confidence and really well connected
and they got great balance.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
So former panther there Ryan Goodler, a bit of a
regular league ledge. It's always fun, isn't it to make
somebody from the team that's just got the can say
nice things about the opposition. Yeah, it's quite Yeah, good
good on Jason Pine for that amazing news talk has
(09:45):
it been with Brian Adams? I feel like Brian Adams
is one of those artists that it's cool to say
how uncool he is, but I don't actually think that
he's even done anything uncool. I think he's pretty cool.
He's still got it, and from what I've seen, he
(10:06):
can still sing and play the guitar like nobody's business.
A bit of a cracky voice, though, I guess when
you're sing your ringing out like that for decades, how
it goes.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
You are now sixteen studio albums deep. You don't have
anything left to prove in this world, So why do
you keep making new music?
Speaker 7 (10:28):
Huh? Well, I mean that's what I do, and that's
what I That's how I started out years ago, and
I got asked that question by my ex manager actually
one day, and he says, why do you bother? And
I said, because that's what I do. And I'm not
(10:51):
one of those people that sort of sort of rests
on my laurels and just sort of quite happy to
just go back and do the same thing over and over.
I enjoy the creativity and I really like, you know,
putting songs together. It's one of the great most satisfying
things a musician can do. And I still got the
(11:13):
melodies in my head, so I got to get them out. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (11:16):
I feel like fans have kind of all landed on
the same thing with Roll with the Punches, that there
is no cynicism on this record. It is. It is
sort of unfaultingly sincere was that a deliberate stance in
what I suppose is a bit of a cynical kind
of age.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
I don't know what you mean.
Speaker 8 (11:35):
You don't think there's any You don't you don't see
the lack of cynicism in this.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
Oh well, I'm not. I'm not a cynical person except
with my friends. But you know, the song Roll with
the Punches is about getting knocked down and getting back
up again. So you could say, maybe that's kind of cynical,
but it's not really.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, I got the vague impression there that he doesn't
he's so nice that he literally doesn't know what cynicism is.
He doesn't know how to do it. You wouldn't recognize
it if you tripped over it, lovely guy. Yeah, I'm
a fan. I've always been a fan of Brian. I
(12:22):
am glad heart that has been newsbooks. They had been
the weekend edition. I am quite cynical, but I'll try,
and you put a bit of a lid on it
for the Morrow's episode. You can only try. I mean,
you try. Sometimes you fail, but at least you try it.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Right us talk as Talks it been for more from
News Talks b listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
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