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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Beans for Friday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen har We're looking
back at Thursday. We need to talk about the Labor
Party how they're traveling at the moment, because they were
hoping for a big week and it has been a
big week, but not necessarious for the reasons that they
want move on orders. This is back in the spotlight
(00:50):
again because we've got flash buildings being built from Britomart,
so people are going to have to move on so
they can make that happen. Net zero and just the
continual cheft away from saving the planet and the coffee
pyramid at the end of the podcast, way to scale
that into that, into that, but before any of that, Yes,
(01:14):
a public transport cheaper for everybody, hooray. Well you're going
to vote for labor though.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
And not have young urban professionals who live close to
public transport who don't need the cap putting it towards
their end of week. Espresso Martinez. I had an email
from Dean who says, my wife and I are both
professionals who commute to the Auckland CBD. We have two sons,
(01:42):
twenty two and twenty three, one who lives at home.
We'll be saving around one hundred and sixty five a week,
or close to eight thousand dollars a year. That's simply
going to pay for our next family holiday. They're just
going to put the money the public transport subsidy that
taxpayers who don't live anywhere near a bus are helping
(02:02):
to fund towards a holiday, and they don't even have
the option of turning down. And really, once you hit
that cap, that's it. Okay, So will it help you?
Do you need the help? Would you like to see
(02:25):
that help targeted more to those who need it rather
than being universal? Would you like to see some visionary
bold labor policy hand up?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (02:35):
I would.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Once again, that seems weird that nobody in labor went
this isn't quite the Hessener raw policy that we we
could have started things off with an election year anyway.
I mean, I'm keen on it because I did. Somebody
in my house who doesn't drive, so she has to
take a bus every where she goes, so this might
make it cheaper for her, But I mean saying that
(02:57):
we're not exactly on the bones of our ass trying
to pay for that at the moment, So why are
we going to get her an easier ride?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
News Talk, Si Bean.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
It's all a bit of a mystery.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Everything.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
It seems like that's sort of a one step forward,
two steps backwards, trip over and fall on your ass
with Labor, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
First we had that Superintendent Niducha model notification of his
intent to run for political office on a Thursday, just
before it's announced on the next Monday, was, as we see,
an organizational failure, not enough notice. The superintendent should have
known the police manual better and should have had the
back room administrators of the Labor Party checking it and
giving him some advice, but obviously they didn't. Then they
(03:43):
released the public transport policy that everyone says is low
on its costing, and then the spokesperson tongue Utiki was
unable to name the projects in the National Land Transport
Fund that would be defunded to make room for it,
making it seem like a good enough idea, but drawn
up on the back of an envelope, making it seem
like no one has really done the back room grunt
on the numbers. And it is a good idea for
(04:06):
young people in towns and cities. But why on earth
will you release a public transport policy when the nation's
attention is on field Days and the rural sector. And
was plainly evident last night from the reaction to the
show that the country folk have no desire to subsidize
the city folks transport. This was the week for a
rural sector announcement, not an urban and Labour's political management
(04:30):
seeming amateur. And then there's this festering accusation that Labour
simply didn't set up a site at Field Days, which,
if true, again lays on the head of the organizational staff.
And this, if you talk to Labor insiders, has been
Labour's perennial problem. A handful of somewhat competent politicians without
(04:50):
the backup of a competent party mechanism, and it all
leads us to the feeling that if they cannot manage
their day to day business, how on earth would they
run the country?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, I mean I know that I love it. Right
in the middle of news storks. They'd be sort of
lean to the right conservative world, but I can honestly,
it does seem like labor cat organize their way out
of a paper bag. They'll alone be in charge.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Of us.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Anyway. Talk right, So everything's all go in Central Auckland
one way or another. The c RL might actually start
operating one day. Brita. Matt's got new buildings being built.
There is this small, annoying little problem that you've got
all these homeless people and vagrants and weirdos hanging around though,
(05:45):
so they can move them on. Of course, how's that
working out.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
The bill in its current state puts the police in
an awkward position because it is being sold to us
as a bill that is going to get rid of
homelessness and city centers. It gives the impression police will
be out on the beat daily, moving on those sleeping
rough from doorways or bust shouters, and then all of
a sudden homelessness will disappear and we don't have to
think about it again. In theory, this sounds good. It
(06:11):
will make city centers safer and more welcoming. Respond to
the business communities concern that rough sleepers harm economic activity
and help connect homeless people to support services. But we
all know that the issue of homelessness is complicated and nuanced,
and that temporarily removing the problem from site does nothing
to fix the problem. The Police Association said it would
be a drain on resources, retail. New Zealand welcomes new
(06:34):
tools for police, but doubts their long term usefulness, and
those who deal with homelessness aren't impressed. In short, no
one seems convinced by this bill. So the move on
law may provide businesses and the wider public with short
term relief from visible homelessness and anti social behavior, but
without meaningful investment in housing and support services at risks
criminalizing vulnerable people, fracturing service access, and just merely sweeping
(06:58):
the problem under the rug. Police will use the law
to move people on who are causing a disturbance and
to get people the care and support they need. But
it's not going to work. It's been sold. Simplifying the
bill to reflect this reality isn't a bad idea. The
legislation as proposed is about optics, and it won't fix
the issue.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, but for most of us, as long as we
can't see bad stuff going on, in our society. At
least we don't have to think about it. Oh that's bad. Yeah,
Manchester might have a point there. Oh dear, it's like
this whole you know, let's forget about the Paris Accords.
Let's forget about really phasing out fossil fuel. Let's I know,
(07:44):
we spent decades, you know, getting to a point where
we all agreed that we should probably try and keep
the planet habitable to human life. And then something happened
somewhere along the way and that's all gone with one
fell swoop.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
Treasury has warned New Zealand could be facing a bill
of around five billion dollars to meet our targets that
we signed up to with the Paris Climate Agreement. Is
that money, while it's been for you, we welcome to
show John.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
I've that doesn't sound like much if you say quickly,
does it? It's all?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
God?
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Yeah, were great, great subject boys, very close to my heart.
I'll accept your proviso that we accept that there is
such a thing as a climate change, even though it
represents like one hair prolic along my head in terms
of the overall contribution, let alone New Zealands. We've got
to get out of net zero. We've got to get
(08:37):
out of Paris, and I implore all Kiwis to only
vote for parties that want to get us out of
net zero. We cannot have a vibrant economy, positive economy
and net zero. These two ideas are mutually exclusive. So
we need to decide are we going to save the
word with net zero? Or are we going to save
(08:58):
New Zealand? And that's all I've got to say.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, I couldn't agree more. The question is do you
want a vibrant economy.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Or do you want.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Here that you can actually breathe, water, that you can
swim in. The ecosystem is still functioning properly, you know,
in a few generations tied. No, No, you're going to
keep that economy pumping, don't we?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
News Talk zip Bean.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
You sound a bit lefty liberal grumpy this morning. When
have you not had a coffee yet? I have, actually,
but it didn't come from a pyramid, as far as
I'm aware. What is a coffee pyramid? Markers, I'd like to.
Speaker 8 (09:42):
Know more about McDonald's coffee. So if you if you're
a senior that goes to McDonald's, and you might have
some little ritual it might be your treat for the week.
You might go on down there and buy your three
dollar coffee, which you'll see to be a four dollar coffee,
and it might it might be the one time you
get out of the house for the week. So if
you want to talk about that, that's what I'm into
tonight to begin with. It is non curated talk tonight.
(10:07):
By the way, there is an update on how they
built the pyramids ramps. Why am I not surprised by that?
And you study published in the journal p LS one
propose that the ancient Egyptians built the Great pyramive Geeze
using a network of temporary ramps. Yeah, how else could
(10:31):
it be anything else?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I think even an asterisk?
Speaker 8 (10:33):
It was ramps integrated edge ramp system, rather than relying
on a single giant ramp stretching out across the desert.
The theory is that just builds created multiple temporary pathways
along the pyramids edges. Oh, why don't they build another one?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I'd love them to build another pyramid. I see that
was an accidental podcast through litt Yeah, I did it
by without even realizing it. There is not a coffee pyramid.
He was talking about coffee and he was talking about pyramids.
But see what the producer of Marcus's show said to me.
It was just a piece of audio called Coffee Pyramid intro,
(11:18):
so I assumed he was talking about a coffee pyramid.
I'm not quite sure why Marcus wants a new pyramid.
Did you know that there's a pyramid in Rome? Went
and saw it on my Vespa tour, my Vespa sidecar
tour the other day when I was the Humble brand.
(11:39):
Most unexpected to see that there, although I did vaguely
remember seeing something about that on a travel show once
that there's a pyramid in Rome.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Look it up.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I'm not making it up. They also have coffee in Rome.
I don't think any of it comes from the pyramid, though, guttered,
this is not a coffee pyramid. I want there to
be one now, I am a glean Hart. I don't
know why I found it so uncertain about that. It
must be time for the weekend. Let's have that and
I'll be back the weekend edition of this on Monday.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
News Talking Talking Zi Bean. For more from News Talk
zed B, listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio,
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Beans for Friday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen har We're looking
back at Thursday. We need to talk about the Labor
Party how they're traveling at the moment, because they were
hoping for a big week and it has been a
big week, but not necessarious for the reasons that they
want move on orders. This is back in the spotlight
(00:50):
again because we've got flash buildings being built from Britomart,
so people are going to have to move on so
they can make that happen. Net zero and just the
continual cheft away from saving the planet and the coffee
pyramid at the end of the podcast, way to scale
that into that, into that, but before any of that, Yes,
(01:14):
a public transport cheaper for everybody, hooray. Well you're going
to vote for labor though.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
And not have young urban professionals who live close to
public transport who don't need the cap putting it towards
their end of week. Espresso Martinez. I had an email
from Dean who says, my wife and I are both
professionals who commute to the Auckland CBD. We have two sons,
(01:42):
twenty two and twenty three, one who lives at home.
We'll be saving around one hundred and sixty five a week,
or close to eight thousand dollars a year. That's simply
going to pay for our next family holiday. They're just
going to put the money the public transport subsidy that
taxpayers who don't live anywhere near a bus are helping
(02:02):
to fund towards a holiday, and they don't even have
the option of turning down. And really, once you hit
that cap, that's it. Okay, So will it help you?
Do you need the help? Would you like to see
(02:25):
that help targeted more to those who need it rather
than being universal? Would you like to see some visionary
bold labor policy hand up?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (02:35):
I would.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Once again, that seems weird that nobody in labor went
this isn't quite the Hessener raw policy that we we
could have started things off with an election year anyway.
I mean, I'm keen on it because I did. Somebody
in my house who doesn't drive, so she has to
take a bus every where she goes, so this might
make it cheaper for her, But I mean saying that
(02:57):
we're not exactly on the bones of our ass trying
to pay for that at the moment, So why are
we going to get her an easier ride?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
News Talk, Si Bean.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
It's all a bit of a mystery.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
Everything.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
It seems like that's sort of a one step forward,
two steps backwards, trip over and fall on your ass
with Labor, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
First we had that Superintendent Niducha model notification of his
intent to run for political office on a Thursday, just
before it's announced on the next Monday, was, as we see,
an organizational failure, not enough notice. The superintendent should have
known the police manual better and should have had the
back room administrators of the Labor Party checking it and
giving him some advice, but obviously they didn't. Then they
(03:43):
released the public transport policy that everyone says is low
on its costing, and then the spokesperson tongue Utiki was
unable to name the projects in the National Land Transport
Fund that would be defunded to make room for it,
making it seem like a good enough idea, but drawn
up on the back of an envelope, making it seem
like no one has really done the back room grunt
on the numbers. And it is a good idea for
(04:06):
young people in towns and cities. But why on earth
will you release a public transport policy when the nation's
attention is on field Days and the rural sector. And
was plainly evident last night from the reaction to the
show that the country folk have no desire to subsidize
the city folks transport. This was the week for a
rural sector announcement, not an urban and Labour's political management
(04:30):
seeming amateur. And then there's this festering accusation that Labour
simply didn't set up a site at Field Days, which,
if true, again lays on the head of the organizational staff.
And this, if you talk to Labor insiders, has been
Labour's perennial problem. A handful of somewhat competent politicians without
(04:50):
the backup of a competent party mechanism, and it all
leads us to the feeling that if they cannot manage
their day to day business, how on earth would they
run the country?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, I mean I know that I love it. Right
in the middle of news storks. They'd be sort of
lean to the right conservative world, but I can honestly,
it does seem like labor cat organize their way out
of a paper bag. They'll alone be in charge.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Of us.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Anyway. Talk right, So everything's all go in Central Auckland
one way or another. The c RL might actually start
operating one day. Brita. Matt's got new buildings being built.
There is this small, annoying little problem that you've got
all these homeless people and vagrants and weirdos hanging around though,
(05:45):
so they can move them on. Of course, how's that
working out.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
The bill in its current state puts the police in
an awkward position because it is being sold to us
as a bill that is going to get rid of
homelessness and city centers. It gives the impression police will
be out on the beat daily, moving on those sleeping
rough from doorways or bust shouters, and then all of
a sudden homelessness will disappear and we don't have to
think about it again. In theory, this sounds good. It
(06:11):
will make city centers safer and more welcoming. Respond to
the business communities concern that rough sleepers harm economic activity
and help connect homeless people to support services. But we
all know that the issue of homelessness is complicated and nuanced,
and that temporarily removing the problem from site does nothing
to fix the problem. The Police Association said it would
be a drain on resources, retail. New Zealand welcomes new
(06:34):
tools for police, but doubts their long term usefulness, and
those who deal with homelessness aren't impressed. In short, no
one seems convinced by this bill. So the move on
law may provide businesses and the wider public with short
term relief from visible homelessness and anti social behavior, but
without meaningful investment in housing and support services at risks
criminalizing vulnerable people, fracturing service access, and just merely sweeping
(06:58):
the problem under the rug. Police will use the law
to move people on who are causing a disturbance and
to get people the care and support they need. But
it's not going to work. It's been sold. Simplifying the
bill to reflect this reality isn't a bad idea. The
legislation as proposed is about optics, and it won't fix
the issue.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, but for most of us, as long as we
can't see bad stuff going on, in our society. At
least we don't have to think about it. Oh that's bad. Yeah,
Manchester might have a point there. Oh dear, it's like
this whole you know, let's forget about the Paris Accords.
Let's forget about really phasing out fossil fuel. Let's I know,
(07:44):
we spent decades, you know, getting to a point where
we all agreed that we should probably try and keep
the planet habitable to human life. And then something happened
somewhere along the way and that's all gone with one
fell swoop.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
Treasury has warned New Zealand could be facing a bill
of around five billion dollars to meet our targets that
we signed up to with the Paris Climate Agreement. Is
that money, while it's been for you, we welcome to
show John.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
I've that doesn't sound like much if you say quickly,
does it? It's all?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
God?
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Yeah, were great, great subject boys, very close to my heart.
I'll accept your proviso that we accept that there is
such a thing as a climate change, even though it
represents like one hair prolic along my head in terms
of the overall contribution, let alone New Zealands. We've got
to get out of net zero. We've got to get
(08:37):
out of Paris, and I implore all Kiwis to only
vote for parties that want to get us out of
net zero. We cannot have a vibrant economy, positive economy
and net zero. These two ideas are mutually exclusive. So
we need to decide are we going to save the
word with net zero? Or are we going to save
(08:58):
New Zealand? And that's all I've got to say.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, I couldn't agree more. The question is do you
want a vibrant economy.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Or do you want.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Here that you can actually breathe, water, that you can
swim in. The ecosystem is still functioning properly, you know,
in a few generations tied. No, No, you're going to
keep that economy pumping, don't we?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
News Talk zip Bean.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
You sound a bit lefty liberal grumpy this morning. When
have you not had a coffee yet? I have, actually,
but it didn't come from a pyramid, as far as
I'm aware. What is a coffee pyramid? Markers, I'd like to.
Speaker 8 (09:42):
Know more about McDonald's coffee. So if you if you're
a senior that goes to McDonald's, and you might have
some little ritual it might be your treat for the week.
You might go on down there and buy your three
dollar coffee, which you'll see to be a four dollar coffee,
and it might it might be the one time you
get out of the house for the week. So if
you want to talk about that, that's what I'm into
tonight to begin with. It is non curated talk tonight.
(10:07):
By the way, there is an update on how they
built the pyramids ramps. Why am I not surprised by that?
And you study published in the journal p LS one
propose that the ancient Egyptians built the Great pyramive Geeze
using a network of temporary ramps. Yeah, how else could
(10:31):
it be anything else?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I think even an asterisk?
Speaker 8 (10:33):
It was ramps integrated edge ramp system, rather than relying
on a single giant ramp stretching out across the desert.
The theory is that just builds created multiple temporary pathways
along the pyramids edges. Oh, why don't they build another one?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I'd love them to build another pyramid. I see that
was an accidental podcast through litt Yeah, I did it
by without even realizing it. There is not a coffee pyramid.
He was talking about coffee and he was talking about pyramids.
But see what the producer of Marcus's show said to me.
It was just a piece of audio called Coffee Pyramid intro,
(11:18):
so I assumed he was talking about a coffee pyramid.
I'm not quite sure why Marcus wants a new pyramid.
Did you know that there's a pyramid in Rome? Went
and saw it on my Vespa tour, my Vespa sidecar
tour the other day when I was the Humble brand.
(11:39):
Most unexpected to see that there, although I did vaguely
remember seeing something about that on a travel show once
that there's a pyramid in Rome.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Look it up.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I'm not making it up. They also have coffee in Rome.
I don't think any of it comes from the pyramid, though, guttered,
this is not a coffee pyramid. I want there to
be one now, I am a glean Hart. I don't
know why I found it so uncertain about that. It
must be time for the weekend. Let's have that and
I'll be back the weekend edition of this on Monday.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
News Talking Talking Zi Bean. For more from News Talk
zed B, listen live on air or online, and keep
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